November 3, 2025 • 40 mins
Picking up in the second half of this two-part episode, we follow a mother’s fight to protect her autistic son, Jaden, from relentless bullying while exposing how schools often replace prevention with paperwork and silence. We explore the difference between punitive labels and proactive supports, the misuse of IEPs and 504 plans, and the hidden costs of outsourced mental health, sub-clinics, and digital spaces that fuel cruelty. The conversation widens to culture and identity as medicine, Afro-Indigenous roots, and the small miracles that sustain families when institutions fail. With clear stances on modern debates, we separate real care from social-media theatrics, urge caution around irreversible medical choices for minors, and call for accountability that doesn’t scapegoat kids with differences. Beyond critique, we propose solutions—from classroom aides and independent oversight to lending lockers, coat drives, and even five-dollar donations that help families escape violence—showing how empathy and boundaries can coexist to build safer schools and stronger communities.
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SPEAKER_00 (00:16):
Psychological evaluation.
See if we stop using the IEPsystem and the 504 system as a
punishment and use it as apreventative measure, because it
is preventative.
If your punishment is you haveto get your kid evaluated since
you're a non non-participatingparent, then hold those parents
accountable.
See, because I know for me, Iwould have been 100% you could
have called the court on mebecause I took my child
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everywhere he needed to go whenhe started to display behaviors
that I found were not conducivewith a happy child.
But the bullies, oh well, he hadto be taught to bully.
Well, who's gonna unteach him?
SPEAKER_01 (00:53):
Let me ask you, uh, what you've um as a mother, how
do you navigate?
How do you navigate daily withall the anger, the fear, and the
pain you're seeing uh your childchild targeting in such a way?
In such a way.
How do you maintain your agenow?
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Now let me say one thing.
I feel bad for the child, thebully.
I do.
Because somewhere he's beingmisguided.
Exactly.
Because if he's where facility,exactly, yeah, if he was being
taught at home, he would have awhole different aspect and way
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to where when Jaden tried tobefriend him, he might have
looked at him and said, Hey, letme try it out instead of looking
at his voice and how good he wasliving, and he's so hateful.
Exactly.
SPEAKER_00 (01:45):
But because these Discord chats are raising our
children, we've gotover-sexualized children,
children who are losing sight oftheir sexual identity, which it
shouldn't exist anymore thanerections and breast growing at
this point.
They should be concerned aboutit ill-timed erections if they
have to stand in front of theclass, which they don't even
have to do presentations likethat anymore.
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But this should be the juxtaposat 16 years old, not worrying
about what 16-year-old is gonnabe somebody's baby mama pimping
things that 16-year-old, I look,I got in trouble at 16 because I
brought a cabbage patch kid toschool and they thought I was
immature.
And as a mom, really, um I mean,honestly, I don't control it.
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You can look because myconnection with Earth and
Creator, and literally, um, I Ishowed you earlier, but I'll
reach over there and get him.
Look, I had to ask, I had to askGod.
I'm like, you're gonna have tosend me something to get me
through this.
Yes, he sent me Francois.
Let me let me go with K and getFrancois.
Because if it weren't for mebeing able to pray and God
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being, look, I was like, God,just just please, you know how
much I want a squirrel.
And so, look, Francois cameabout at the time that I needed
to, Francois was very needy andhe needed to be bottle fed.
And so the tenderness and thefocus that it had that I had to
take with this little smallthing, because I'm not a
squirrel.
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So the intricate focus that ittook for me to make him survive
reminded me that my baby, mybaby, that same intricate focus
was not given to him.
And so being able to bond withthis squirrel with him, show him
the value of life, and that thefact that, hey, you made it, the
squirrel made it, really justtouching back on the principles
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of creation and going with God.
And look, that is important tous as natives.
I mean, down to the point whereI when I tell you, God shows up
because remember, I told youthey flushed his owl feather,
which was significant for him.
That was his first feather ashis rite of passage as a young
native man.
So they flushed his owl featherdown the toilet when he brought
it to school to share with otherpeople.
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But when I tell you that a weekago, a snowy owl, where I work
in Colonial Williamsburg as anAfro-Indigenous interpreter, we
had a snowy owl that it crossedover.
And so the owl was back there.
We were able to process the owl,and everybody got feathers for
the encampment where we arealready indigenous.
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And I got the the my son, myother, my older son, and one of
the other girls we work withprocessed it, and she made sure
to replace his owl feather.
SPEAKER_01 (04:26):
Awesome.
SPEAKER_00 (04:27):
So that connection to creator and understanding
that it's important for us asAfro-Indigenous peoples to
connect because this is theland, this is where my mother's
tribe came here.
We're connected to theMatapinaya and the Rappahannock.
And so it's important for me touh help him understand that you
know, proud Afro-Indigenouspeoples here with the Nottaway,
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the palm monkey, having him ableto see himself in something
other than ghetto rap culture.
Yeah, that's not who we are as awhole, and I'm so tired of that.
That you know, anything outsideof the norm where everybody
here, everybody in theseapartments are living like
they're living in urban upstateNew York, it is really not that
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serious in Virginia.
The mentality that exists withif you can't afford five kids,
don't have five kids, sisters ofall colors.
If you can't afford the baby,don't have the baby.
Because the stress you createfor your children when you
cannot give them the attentionthey need is why we have so many
bullies.
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These are kids who need love,but they don't know how to
receive it because it's neverbeen extended to them in the
proper fashion.
They've either been maintainedor tolerated.
Because a child with love intheir heart would do exactly
what my son did.
Understand, this kid's got atough time.
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This kid did share with my sonthe information about his mother
and his father being in jail.
And my son really did want toreach out and tell him, Oh, my
mom's really cool.
You should come to the house.
My mom works on cars with us,and you know, that's the joke at
the auto part stuff.
We go up there and they're like,Your mom came car parts picking
because I've been mom and dad tomy boys, right?
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And so, given the opportunity,he could have come to our house
and experienced some love, maybesome some maternal compassion
that he's missing without hismother, but without the the
responsible people to intervenethat without the proper
guidance, without the properguidance, because somewhere down
the line, this child is notbeing mine.
SPEAKER_01 (06:34):
He hates the fact that I I don't know if it's more
so I I can't, I don't know, I'mnot in his brain, but I don't
know more so if it's hatebecause look, psychologically
it's or is it because he'sblack?
SPEAKER_00 (06:47):
And I believe that it is not even if you want to
get to the root cause, honestly.
I don't believe it's either.
I believe that that's what hefeels he needs to forwardly
project to express this anger atJaden, but I believe that in
seeing Jaden's mom showed up.
I don't have a mom.
Yeah, Jaden's mom keeps showingup.
So the idea is to piss me offbecause it's that deep and he
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doesn't understand that this istransference.
I don't have a mom.
My dad's in jail, my grandpalets me do what I want.
That is not uh I'm bragging.
That is a cry for help.
I don't have a safe space when Igo home.
SPEAKER_01 (07:23):
A cry for help.
You hit that right on the nose.
I believe the child has a cryfor help, but the system, his
grandparents is not supportingand give the child what he
needs.
SPEAKER_00 (07:34):
Exactly.
And let me tell you about thatsystem as we speak of it.
So when Jaden needed mentalhealth here at the high school,
I asked for him to speak to theguidance counselor.
Do you know that they send himto they have paid mental health
professionals in the high schooland tell you they're gonna send
them to the counselor?
Send them to a counselor andthen send you a bill.
He was already in counseling atDistrict 19 free because they
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found that the school had beenunsupportive.
But when he went to C C VHS hereat the school, because they have
some little undergroundsubclinic where you can get
birth control, you could doeverything you want without
requiring a parent to be presentbecause they think they're doing
us a favor.
What they're doing is taking theliability off of parents for
being parents.
Counsel if your children onkeeping their legs closed, raise
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them up to have self-value, thattheir vaginas and their penises
are not the value of who theyare as a person, nor is their
skin color.
It's the content of theirhearts, their minds, and how
they treat other human beings.
But we've gotten so far awayfrom that because everybody
wants to be on a platform.
And I am, I am an advocate.
I identify as queer, but that isnot the focus for school.
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It is not focusing.
No child should be transitioninguntil they are adults.
That is things you can't do.
So no, I don't support it.
And I'm queer, and I'm one ofthe few queer voices that says
we do not give those drugs toour children while their bodies
and minds are still forming.
Because when we do that, whathappens if in the end your young
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daughter who seems to identifyas male right now, you give her
testosterone, she can't havebabies?
And what happens if she's 28years old and realizes that that
top surgery she got at 17 is notwhat she wanted, that she wants
to be a lesbian and live herlife with another woman and she
can't have children.
Now that's another cycle ofdepression because she has to
contend with the fact that onlyher partner can carry the child
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because of decisions that adultsmade.
No, no, no, no, no, no.
Mental health, yes.
Mental health, yes.
We foster them on their journey.
We do not butcher our children,we do not continue to perpetuate
sexuality in an environmentwhere education should be
tantamount.
That's the problem.
Everybody's so caught up inwhere we're gonna pee and who's
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on social media.
The children have lost sight oflearning.
SPEAKER_01 (09:48):
Yes.
So what message would you giveto a parent who, especially
mothers whose children arefacing bullying, racism, and
neglect from schools?
Now we've already heard the thewhat advice that you have for
those other children.
SPEAKER_00 (10:06):
I'm gonna double down.
I'm gonna double down.
Parents, stop being afraid totake your children out of school
systems that are not working foryou.
Use your voice and start talkingto the news, to the media,
everywhere else.
Stop sending your children backinto the danger zone because
somebody tells you, becausewe're black, we should trust
each other.
No, you don't trust them anymorethan you trust strange white
people with your children, andwhite people, same thing.
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Do not trust anybody becausethey lean into you on race, race
baiting, racial identity meansnothing.
Nothing.
Because I'm tired.
SPEAKER_01 (10:37):
The police officer that said he was Hawaiian, his
race was black, black.
SPEAKER_00 (10:42):
He is a he is he he is supposed to be a pillar of
the black community, but said myson was acting like a young
nigga.
Really?
That's how we talkprofessionally to people.
But then uh also when I showedup, uh Jaden, I didn't know your
mom was Hawaiian.
Because my first name is Nioki,and because I took a flat iron
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to the hair that I purchased.
See, if my hair wouldn't haveblended in so good with the
beauty store hair, they wouldn'thave they would have seen if
they'd have looked a littleharder and paid attention that I
am black.
But again, the perception isthat Jane's mom is Spanish, and
I'm tired of uh uh us beinguneducated.
Spanish is not a race, that isnot a creed, and everybody oh,
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she's Spanish.
Oh, we are so content in ourignorance.
That's why we can't get ahead.
Because people like us who don'tgo for the dish that yo, people
who come into a space usingproper vernacular, and then when
we're amongst our friends again,we we adopt what's comfortable
for us, we're not well receivedeither.
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Because when I speakintelligently, oh she acts
white.
Oh, here I come here's mom againacts white.
SPEAKER_01 (11:53):
I never could understand that I never could
understand that growing up.
It's like you talk white, likeeven my granddaughter.
Why is it white?
Why couldn't it just be a properway set of a proper way?
SPEAKER_00 (12:05):
My mom went to school in England.
My mom drops drops her H's.
So my mother looks like me, isvery, very, very much a black
woman, and she'll drop a oh wellthe H.
She doesn't even say the letterH correctly.
She she grew up in Englandbecause my grandfather was in
the Air Force.
My parents did not raise me tosound like uh, as that as the
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officer would say, those Y-Ns.
So I don't promote it.
And then the moms who, if youwant your son's butt hanging out
like uh he's been for free inprison, uh, we need to stop with
this damn prison culture.
Everybody we love on TV lockedup.
That's ignorant.
That's why our childrenperpetuate that.
Because young moms strippingwant to be friends with their
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daughters, have them out here ina lifestyle.
Yeah, young and fast.
That's us.
Until we clean it up, and it'swhite people too.
Until this generation stopstrying to be friends, half
dressed with their kids.
We're gonna continue to have amental health problem because
the problem is most of thesechildren were raised by first
generation iPads, and now we'reon what, the 10th generation?
So we got 10 generations ofiPads raising misinformed youth
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who are being incentivized andlook incentivized and actuated
on things like Discord, who areteaching them to groom each
other.
It's other sick adults with noculpability.
And instead of us checking on,we know our kids are on Discord.
Why, why, as parents, haven't wedone something to get some
ordinances to shut this down?
Because it's easier to go inbecause most of us can't not re
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are are retired working twojobs.
I know I am.
It is not an option.
SPEAKER_01 (13:40):
So there's a dating site on one of the is that
Roblox?
Yes.
They're putting a dating site onRoblox.
SPEAKER_00 (13:47):
Oh, Roblox is Roblox had another chat forum where
they were grooming people to uhkill their pets, um, expose
sexual content.
Now, let me tell you whathappened.
I had an experience with one ofmy family members who sent uh a
picture in underwear at the ageof 14.
And guess what?
They got in trouble too.
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They and the recipient were onprobation in another state
against they could not have anyelectronics for three years.
SPEAKER_01 (14:18):
Wow.
SPEAKER_00 (14:19):
And maybe, maybe, maybe if we stop letting damn
cell phones in school, look, I'mfor everybody being able, but
them little ziploc bags,everybody remember how you used
to have to put your baby'sdiaper bag in a cubby at the
daycare center.
That's exactly where them phonesshould go.
Them teachers should have shoetrees where you put your phone
and at the end of class, butthen still that phone by these
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parents, the phone needs to belocked down during school hours.
I'm tired of seeing glossy lipsand short skirts.
I'm tired of seeing no chestmuscles flexing in the middle of
the school day.
You you're not strong enough toget your lesson, but you
standing out with all 87 poundsand a bird chest flexing,
talking about I get all thebitches.
Or I'm a hot bitch.
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Why are we bitches?
Why are we bitches and pimps?
SPEAKER_01 (15:07):
You know why?
Because I will say, becausetelevision number one is a lack
of parental guidance, a lack ofparental guidance.
This is the the cycle that theywill have us in to keep us where
we're done.
SPEAKER_00 (15:22):
I'm a bad bitch.
I'm a bad bitch.
No, thank you, no, thank you,no, thank you, no, thank you,
no, thank you.
SPEAKER_01 (15:29):
Yes, I am a woman of character, yes, I am an
experienced veteran, I am a peerally, and you see what they call
us when we're an uh educated uhJasmine Crockett, for example.
Oh you see, she's so ghetto,even though she was properly
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raised with a two-parenthousehold, educated now.
SPEAKER_00 (15:52):
She's ghetto because she wears false eyelashes.
Oh Lord, help me and mylight-skinned self if I get up
there, because then there comesthe other argument.
This is the other one, becauseI'm light-skinned, I expect.
Um, no, it's because I am aparent who expects that when you
take a job as a teacher, ifyou're gonna sit up here and
talk about how much you don'tget paid, then show me what kind
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of, because you're getting paidexactly for what you're doing
for my child right now.
I will not advocate forfacilitators who don't
facilitate.
And that my problem being thatuh again, I'm a course
curriculum developer and I'vedeveloped courses for missile
systems and such.
So thank you, U.S.
Army, yeah, for making me, oh,making me fantabulous after the
Marine Corps decorated me well,the army put, you know, put more
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jewels in my crown.
So when I'm addie certified toteach and I go give you my
credentials and I can be asubstitute teacher, but because
you don't see me at FirstBaptist Church, maybe I'll go to
church on base with the rest ofmy constituents, ma'am.
Maybe I used to work for thecommand chaplain, so I know all
the chaplains over there andthey've known me since I was a
young Marine, so it makes moresense to be in an environment in
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which I'm familiar with familiarwith.
SPEAKER_01 (17:01):
I so agree with that.
SPEAKER_00 (17:03):
Oh my goodness, you're gonna judge me because I
don't come to your church whenyour pastor four years ago and I
do my research.
Your pastor was in trouble witha different church under a
different name and isn't a newname driving a purple Cadillac.
I have no interest, thank you.
SPEAKER_01 (17:21):
Well, that being said, so look, we have a you you
started to GoFundMe and uh toretain a lawyer for Jaden.
Yes, and um so um what what wasthe amount that you have?
SPEAKER_00 (17:36):
I think we had it up because everybody was saying
like 10,000.
I don't believe that that is fora special education lawyer.
I think we put it at 5,500because that at least can get us
somebody who specializes inspecial education, and it's not
just justice for Jaden.
We have a lot of specialeducation students who have been
abused here in Petersburg, andI'm an advocate.
I am autistic.
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All three of my children areautistic.
I functioned, I went toMonastery School, and because of
where we were, my dad was aMarine in California at the
time.
So in 1975, through my school, Iwas a product of Department of
Defense schools, and because ofthat, being on base, my teachers
were professors.
You had to be, you had to haveat least two years of collegiate
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teaching, it be it at acommunity college or at a major
university to teach at DODschools at one time.
So I am the product of a goodeducation, and so for me,
understanding that that's anecessity, when we don't have
the proper resources for specialeducation, they become bad kids
by nature.
James Autistic, he gets bored,he stems, and then because the
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teacher is acting ignorant, hemakes a comment.
Now he's a bad kid because he'sgot a snappy mouth.
Well, when he knows that you'rea teacher and you shouldn't be
engaging in certain behavior andhe calls you on it in front of
the class and then you punishhim.
Well, if we had more assistancein the classrooms like were
required, and this cut to theDepartment of Education, maybe
if some oversight to happen, youknow what?
Roll it up underneath thegovernment.
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Make the IG have to inspect itevery year, like everything else
in the military.
See, if we start making sublets,how about all of us military
instructors who are addingcertified up to the fifth grade?
If we need supplements, howabout call some of us back to
active duty who would like tofacilitate?
How about those of us who areretired who could facilitate for
the DOD, who are already doingit for our soldiers, sailors,
marines, and Coast Guard rightnow.
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Make that a department of themilitary and run it tight, tight
like a ship.
SPEAKER_01 (19:29):
With the with the administration we have right
now, I don't even know.
SPEAKER_00 (19:34):
No, because let me tell you, um, I I am not uh I I
I have interacted and yeah, PeteHague Seth, while he was a
Marine, wasn't anything to talkabout.
So our our department, our warchief, our war chief, while we
wasted money changing names ofdepartments, being asinine
because somebody's ego, becausehe's going senile right in front
of us, and yes, I'll continue tosay it.
Uh, I have served undereveryone.
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Did I want to go to war in Iraq?
No.
Did I have an attitude withPresident Bush when I met him?
Yes.
Yes, because I went to standnext to General Krack and
Sergeant Major Barrett, becauseI had nothing to say to him when
they caught him on a hot micsaying they tried to shoot my
goddamn daddy.
That's what we went to war for,not because we vetted everybody
else.
And when me and my husband kepthaving to deploy, I developed a
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callous skin.
But did I ever act like this?
No, I did my job.
And for those of us stillserving, not getting paid
because his ego is so big, thatis an affront.
And then for him to take awayhealth care for the very kids my
kid is getting counselingbecause he's autistic, that kid
has parents in jail.
So for this time, it's not theblack kid who has a
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stereotypical house, it's notthe black kid in the trailer
park, it's not the black kidbeing the bully, it's not the
black kid, and I don't hear anyvoices advocating.
None of them because if it wasthe black kid that it beat the
white kid, who now the white kidat 270 pounds is saying that he
feared for his life when my sonfought back because my son's
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black.
That's funny to me.
SPEAKER_01 (21:03):
As a mother, um, what kind of future do you dream
for Jaden now beyond this point?
Um being as though, you know,um, we're gonna put it out there
to go fund me.
But like you said, I like whatyou said.
You don't advocate just forJaden, and that's that is very
that is the same way, samementality I have.
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I don't advocate just for oneperson, one grandchild, one
child.
I was just saying if I canadvocate for every anybody that
I can reach and I could touch,this is the reason for B3U.
It's not about just one race,one person.
We are we should be advocatingfor everybody.
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I believe they should just getrid of race and call it the
human race.
SPEAKER_00 (21:50):
Exactly, because we are human.
Our citizens doesn't change oureffect because some people can
be dark-skinned and never havestruggled a day in their life
because they came into wealth,family wealth generations.
That's not just white people,and there are white people out
there going through rightalongside their constituents of
color and they're friends andthey're not racist, and they
support each other.
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It's plenty of single white andblack mothers babysitting each
other's kids, and they'regetting the multicultural aspect
because it is a necessity tosupport each other.
And if I could do anything,that's what we need, just like
on base, on base, every kid is ashade of green, and we teach
that, and we teach that in themilitary, and if I could do
anything, if the vim and vigorwith which we we strike up every
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other cause to change the namesand tear down statues, how about
we reinvest some of that moneyand get some uh get some
qualified healthcare providers,some forensic psychologists that
can look at that that once aweek look at our pattern
misbehaviors.
Once a week they review thosefive or four plans so that those
children can be referenced, bereferred for additional help.
And how about we stop takingmoney from the programs that
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keep kids from shooting upschools?
These kids need mental healthcare.
Mental health care professionalsare a necessity in a blended
environment for those who do notlearn the same way.
Neurodivergent kids react todifferent stimulus.
And if that stimulus is themgetting beat up, they are going
to fight back.
And when we fight back, when wereach a point that everybody's
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beat us up, we black out.
This is where you take people onthe spectrum and you make
killers out of them because youdon't listen.
And that that knows no racialbounds.
Those kids that shoot up schoolsare kids that have suffered,
they've suffered a lack ofsomething somewhere, be it the
absence of parental love andsupervision.
So they're bullies.
Or these kids who feel likethey're unloved that are taking
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their own lives because theirparents are getting bullied too,
because their parents are poor,their parents have a demographic
in which they're embarrassed up,and these kids are getting
picked on for circumstances theycannot help.
They can't go get a job.
Their main job is to bestudents.
If we don't start to getadvocacy at that level and start
involving CPS and stuff otherthan stealing children, how
about reciprocal programs torebuild the family?
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Rebuild the family at its core,make it the goal to keep the
family together instead ofstealing people.
SPEAKER_01 (24:10):
Since you are speaking today, I I I hope many
ears will hear and action willbe taken.
Um let me ask you about uh thecommunity.
Is anybody in that community?
Is it the community, somebodyhelping you stay grounded?
Who's helping you through thesetimes?
SPEAKER_00 (24:28):
With yourself and a few of my other veteran friends,
and this is sad, there's noexternal community that is
reaching out to console me,other than the individual police
officers that took it uponthemselves.
Um, Officer Tarwet Tar Tawarik,um, Omar Tawarek.
And look, let me tell yousomething about him because he
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comes from a Persian background,a Middle Eastern background, at
first, the reverse prejudicethat existed because nobody
really wanted to give him achance.
And I have that on insideinformation because I know who I
associate with.
But the chief gave him a chance.
And shout out to the policechief of Petersburg, who is
breaking some of this monotonyand doing his best, their best,
because they're trying.
But the complicit officers thatdon't want to do their job
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because there's too much goingon here.
We got shootings going on up anddown Crater Road.
The police are exhausted too.
And although I I I I empathizewith them, that's still not an
excuse when it comes to ourjunior children.
But they're not doing anythingfor the, you know, not there's
no funding for ride-alongs.
There's no funding to build acommunity where the children
trust the police.
There's a bunch of drug addictparents out here raising kids
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like feral cats.
And there's no community, there,there's no community outreach.
There's no funding for it.
And then the funding that startsat the beginning of the year is
usually depleted.
There is nothing out there asfar as Afro-Indigenous resources
right here in Petersburg.
I have seen nothing.
Not even an after-school groupwhere he can go as an
Afro-Indigenous young man andconnect with culture because uh,
(25:56):
well, you're black of the YMCA.
I'm like, what the hell did youjust say to me?
I'm looking for cultural aspectswhere my son can go with other
Afro-Indigenous folks and learnto make some regalia, learn to
do something reconnecting, learnto be in a drummer circle.
See, the things that'll keep mychild in culture will also keep
him from committing crimes anddoing those things because
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culturally he'll be honor bound.
So I'll know that if he'sparticipating in culture, if he
chooses to step outside, it'snot for a lack of immersion in
culture, it's a per it's apersonal choice that his
autonomy is making him choose todo the wrong thing.
But in the absence of adequateresources for these kids, what
choice do they have to includethe young man who attacked my
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son?
What do they have?
Yeah, it costs too much forsports.
We no longer have any people.
Look, there's a lot of money outthe people out there who could
donate a lot of money so yousports could be free in these
areas, and they don't.
I live on my VA pension alone.
I didn't get concurrent receiptbecause trust, if I did, I would
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take my money and put it intothe community, and what little I
have, I do.
SPEAKER_01 (27:01):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (27:02):
But without those people who have deep pockets
doing more things and buildingbars and building libraries, we
need sports programs.
We need, look, I get it.
The school library is a start,building commemorative libraries
for kids who can't read.
So they're never gonna go tothem.
SPEAKER_01 (27:19):
And you know, as a veteran, you know, uh, well, you
you already know this is why,you know, and I I'm a true
believer that if we're gonnacomplain, and if you're gonna
complain, then just be quiet.
But if you're going, if you wantto make a difference, don't just
talk about it, do about it, dosomething about it.
And that's the reason why Icreated my nonprofit.
(27:39):
And that's what that I'm just sointo giving back to the
community, helping thecommunity.
I have to tell, I have tosometimes ignore phone calls
where I watch young women callmonth after month after month
for the same money.
SPEAKER_00 (27:54):
It's not there, and that's a thing.
When we run out, when we have alittle to give, and then it's
difficult to walk away becauseyou're tapped.
Because personally, look, I Ireached out a young lady.
Her son was being secreted fromher by the child's father for
three weeks.
He cut off her phone with whatlittle, what last little line of
(28:14):
credit I had.
I went and got that child aphone.
She has a four-year-old and atwo-year-old, and the father,
because they had beencohabitating, had all the upper
hand because he had financiallocus of control.
Yeah, but now I know.
And then it's like somebody elseasked me for help.
That's all I could do.
That's outside of taking care ofmy son, the the the ability to
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reach out.
That was the last I could do wasthat phone.
And see, organizations likeyours shouldn't, we should
never, especially when when wewant to go out and help.
People don't understand whenyou're an advocate how difficult
it is because you can't pick upthe phone and advocate, because
you can't listen to anotherstory to break your heart and
say, I really wish I could dosomething.
SPEAKER_01 (28:56):
Oh my goodness.
SPEAKER_00 (28:57):
Because I can't take from my mortgage.
Yeah, I can't take from mymortgage.
I have to have a house for mychild.
And it pains me because thereare times when I know that
somebody could use that moneyI'm paying for my mortgage to
get them out of an abusivesituation, and I can't do
anything for them.
So if I could do anything, I askpeople, I compel you, I compel
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the audience out there to donateto your organization so we can
get to work.
We have things to do with nofunds to do them.
And we have so many people whoare in need, and all it is skip
your skip one cup of coffee aweek.
SPEAKER_01 (29:30):
What just one cup, one cup of coffee.
SPEAKER_00 (29:32):
Five dollars goes a long way in mailing out and
buying paper and going to dopresentations to put gas in our
car to go help someone out of asituation.
That stuff, it goes so far.
SPEAKER_01 (29:44):
It is so hard during this time of year, especially to
watch children.
You know, it gets cold.
But when you sitting and youwatching children in an empty
parking lot with drug addictparent uh drug addict parents or
parents, and you have to sit andwatch children.
Freezing cold.
It's like I could not sit back,and we are both retired
(30:05):
veterans.
Exactly.
All of the money that I get ismainly from my pocket.
SPEAKER_00 (30:11):
And it's look, and and it's these agencies as well.
When people are talking aboutit, get those coats.
Why in the world?
Why in the world would you takea pair of scissors to a coat and
throw it in a dumpster insteadof use that clause for
charitable donation and write itoff because managers are too
lazy to do reports?
Too lazy.
So instead, oh, we're gonna dumpit at Goodwill.
(30:33):
Well, Goodwill makes a profit.
Goodwill makes a profit.
Take it to individuals like uswho are watching these coats in
our house to do coat drives.
SPEAKER_01 (30:42):
You better speak today.
You speaking today because a lotof my donors will not take it to
Goodwill.
They give it to me.
SPEAKER_00 (31:03):
My grandson's clothes go to other children
because I know that they'retaken care of.
And when I thrift and I movethings from other veterans, they
go to needy families.
If I know somebody who's givingaway clothing for a four to
five-year-old child, guess what?
I'll swap out if they need mymicrowave because I know
somebody is gonna be young andneed the clothing for that
child.
So I'm and you know what?
A lending locker is something wedesperately need.
(31:25):
We don't have a lending locker.
Where I mean, if somebody wanteda rotor tiller, donate that, and
you come to the lending locker,you you borrowed a rotor tiller
so you can plant your garden.
These are things that acommunity needs.
SPEAKER_01 (31:38):
We need it.
Finally, Naoki, I want to um, ifyou could speak directly to the
audience today, uh, for thosewatching, uh, what do you want
the world to know about Jaden,about justice, and about never
giving up?
SPEAKER_00 (31:54):
Jaden right now is kind of the poster child for
those kids who go above andbeyond with special needs.
So I want for every parent outthere who has a child on the
spectrum or with some otherspecial need, I want you to
remember that their capabilitiesare so much greater than people
put out for them.
Jaden's capacity to love andreach out to this other student.
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I want everyone to know thathe's not a perfect kid.
He tries to get in trouble likeeverybody else, just
unfortunately, he's not a slick.
But for him and for, I mean, forall children, it children, and
it's not necessarily justchildren with special needs.
Some of our kids out there thatmight have not have academic
needs have special needsemotionally.
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And when we take it, be be anactive parent, take those five
minutes, and I I compel you, askyour child what's going on
because they're being told,don't talk to your parents, talk
to me on online, make friendsonline.
They're being groomed and notjust sexually, they're being
groomed for violence.
(32:56):
And since we don't see our kidsget sex trafficked or picked up
every day, they're beinghijacked by these computers.
Get the net nanny.
Get on those computers, get inthese phones, know what your
children are doing, lock downthat screen time and go through
that phone, know their friends,stop letting these appliances
raise your children because itis a hotbed for trouble.
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These kids are acting outviolently with no remorse
because it's normalized throughthese platforms.
SPEAKER_01 (33:24):
You know what?
That the social media sometimessome of the parents babysitters,
that's the problem.
Absolutely, and so is YouTube.
SPEAKER_00 (33:31):
But see, they get in the habit of letting these kids
watch YouTube, and some of thatcontent on YouTube is not for
children.
SPEAKER_01 (33:36):
It's not, you know, I just learned that YouTube
kids, you even have to monitorthat.
SPEAKER_00 (33:43):
Yes, that's where I got the most offended because on
YouTube kids, I'm going throughsomething that I think is
age-appropriate for a child wholikes YouTube videos, and
there's a grown person withlanguage that mimics the
language so they don't getdemonetized.
But um, when I'm seeing on aYouTube kids, um, I didn't even
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know, God forbid, I'm sorry, butI I just wasn't with it.
That little eggplant emoji, allthese other emojis that mean
something else, yeah.
That our kids know that I gottago and get a concordance to
translate what's being said on aphone.
I learned some stuff I can'teven unlearn.
And the problem is they learnedit online.
So if we could we could holdthese folks accountable and I
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get everybody out free speech,free speech.
Well, some of these platforms,you don't want your 15-year-old
daughter having free speech onCert.
So if you're gonna talk aboutfree speech, let's talk about
your 15-year-old daughter isdamn near topless on the
internet, but you want freespeech, but you are not policing
what your child is doing, orsome of these people out here
professing that, oh well, my theinternet's not raising my child.
(34:47):
Your child is the one who isgoing to school being a bully
because somebody else on theinternet is is hyping him up to
go after the kids who won'taccept him.
So now he is the anti-hero.
Now they're taking comic booksand mixing it with real life.
So you get these folks actingout these comic book scenarios
who are in desperate need ofmental health.
Mental health.
(35:08):
When you catch somebody who'sbroken, you can break them
further.
One more time, mental health?
When you mental health, becausewhen you catch somebody who's
broken, you can break themfurther if they do not have
adequate mental health sources.
SPEAKER_01 (35:22):
That is so correct.
Naoki, I just want to thank youfor coming on B3U for taking
your power back for that triesto be taken from you.
And I I just applaud you forbeing an advocate, not only just
for your son, but all those inthe community.
And I look forward, my sister,my sister in arms, working with
you to help justice be done.
(35:44):
My to my audience, um, uh, wewill put the um the GoFundMe up.
Um, we will send any link in anyway that I can help.
Uh, let's do it together becausethis is what it's all about.
SPEAKER_00 (35:59):
It's bigger than my baby.
And that's what I tell everyone.
It's bigger than my baby.
And I've been mistreated by thepolice departments because they
keep this individual mentality.
That child is still at school.
What happens if he has anotherfluctuation in his mood swings?
What happens if the anniversaryhits for mom or dad going to
jail or mom's death and he turnsagainst another student because
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Jaden's situation wasn't takenseriously.
And I can I could be themouthpiece for my baby.
But the fact of the matter is,if that little boy would have
been open to it, he could havecome over here and got hugs and
loves because I got enough momto go around.
And so I can't, I can be upsetat what he did, but I'm more
upset at the system that failedhim, too.
SPEAKER_01 (36:39):
Yes, yes, the system has.
And that is so true word spoken.
You have a beautiful heart, andmay you be blessed beyond
measures.
I'm going to, we're gonna keep,we're gonna keep a close watch.
You already know.
Absolutely.
Look, we've got work to do.
SPEAKER_00 (36:54):
We've got work to do.
Immobilizing, look, moms first.
Look, I come from a tribe thatmatrilineal leadership was
everything, and the women tookthe helm on everything.
Men couldn't even go to warwithout the permission of the
women in the Eastern Woodlandstribes.
And when we gather as women,because only a woman can reach
through the ether and bring backa soul.
So you must have her permissionbefore you put it in harm's way.
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He doesn't have a mom.
So who will stand in with thatenergy on the behalf of this
child and ask for his help?
I will.
Because he went against thematernal order of things and
tried to take my child in myculture.
I'm obligated to seek assistancefor those who try to harm me.
And sometimes it's hard, butsomewhere somebody failed him
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too.
SPEAKER_01 (37:36):
Yeah.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (37:38):
And it's tough.
It's tough to love when you wantto hate.
SPEAKER_01 (37:41):
Yeah, it is.
It is.
But we're going to keep doingthe good work.
We're going to keep in touch,we're going to keep educating,
we're going to keep uhempowering empowering advocacy
through empathy.
SPEAKER_00 (37:54):
Advocacy through empathy.
We have to understand from bothperspectives.
Otherwise, it's just a witchhunt on either side, which is
what I learned.
When they can't lay fault on oneor the other, instead of turning
inwards to see where itoccurred, where we can prevent
it, they want to point fingers.
Both these children were failedby the school system.
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Both of them.
So it we gotta look at thesesystems that are in place that
continue to fail.
Hold these facilitatorsaccountable, hold them
accountable.
Stop sweeping stuff under therug.
I get it.
If you lose a teacher, butwouldn't you rather lose a
teacher who's ineffective thanallow a teacher who's being
abusive to children and breakingrules to continue to do this and
put your school system in aliability for a lawsuit?
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Because right now, let's faceit, I have to lawyer up for this
situation.
Do I want to sue the school anddeplete resources?
No, I do not.
But without that, without somekind of punitive damage, they
will continue to fail to actbecause it's been since sixth
grade and he's in 10th gradenow.
SPEAKER_01 (38:57):
Yes.
Yes.
So I thank you.
Thank you, sis, for having meon.
Yes, yes, that is right fullyout.
SPEAKER_00 (39:07):
Prayer, power, and perseverance, sis.
Prayer, power, perseverance.
That, that, that right there onmy mirror.
Prayer, power, perseverance.
Because we are not going to giveup until we see the change that
we want to see.
SPEAKER_01 (39:19):
That's right.
Well, I will not, I will notgive up.
I will not give up.
And here, B3U, I want to thankall my listeners for tuning in
because we are in effect oftaking back power.
Thank you for having me.
SPEAKER_00 (39:32):
Thank you, new friends and future friends who
are out there who listen to mystory.
I hope reach out to us if youwant to be a part of this.
We do.
We need an active base to keepthis stuff moving because it's
not just one child, it's thewellness of every child and
those who are coming behind.
SPEAKER_01 (39:49):
Thank you.
Miss Nayok Naoki.
Psychological evaluation.
See if we stop using the IEPsystem and the 504 system as a
punishment and use it as apreventative measure, because it
is preventative.
If your punishment is you haveto get your kid evaluated since
you're a non non-participatingparent, then hold those parents
accountable.
See, because I know for me, Iwould have been 100% you could
have called the court on mebecause I took my child
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everywhere he needed to go whenhe started to display behaviors
that I found were not conducivewith a happy child.
But the bullies, oh well, he hadto be taught to bully.
Well, who's gonna unteach him?
SPEAKER_01 (00:53):
Let me ask you, uh, what you've um as a mother, how
do you navigate?
How do you navigate daily withall the anger, the fear, and the
pain you're seeing uh your childchild targeting in such a way?
In such a way.
How do you maintain your agenow?
(01:14):
Now let me say one thing.
I feel bad for the child, thebully.
I do.
Because somewhere he's beingmisguided.
Exactly.
Because if he's where facility,exactly, yeah, if he was being
taught at home, he would have awhole different aspect and way
(01:34):
to where when Jaden tried tobefriend him, he might have
looked at him and said, Hey, letme try it out instead of looking
at his voice and how good he wasliving, and he's so hateful.
Exactly.
SPEAKER_00 (01:45):
But because these Discord chats are raising our
children, we've gotover-sexualized children,
children who are losing sight oftheir sexual identity, which it
shouldn't exist anymore thanerections and breast growing at
this point.
They should be concerned aboutit ill-timed erections if they
have to stand in front of theclass, which they don't even
have to do presentations likethat anymore.
(02:06):
But this should be the juxtaposat 16 years old, not worrying
about what 16-year-old is gonnabe somebody's baby mama pimping
things that 16-year-old, I look,I got in trouble at 16 because I
brought a cabbage patch kid toschool and they thought I was
immature.
And as a mom, really, um I mean,honestly, I don't control it.
(02:28):
You can look because myconnection with Earth and
Creator, and literally, um, I Ishowed you earlier, but I'll
reach over there and get him.
Look, I had to ask, I had to askGod.
I'm like, you're gonna have tosend me something to get me
through this.
Yes, he sent me Francois.
Let me let me go with K and getFrancois.
Because if it weren't for mebeing able to pray and God
(02:48):
being, look, I was like, God,just just please, you know how
much I want a squirrel.
And so, look, Francois cameabout at the time that I needed
to, Francois was very needy andhe needed to be bottle fed.
And so the tenderness and thefocus that it had that I had to
take with this little smallthing, because I'm not a
squirrel.
(03:09):
So the intricate focus that ittook for me to make him survive
reminded me that my baby, mybaby, that same intricate focus
was not given to him.
And so being able to bond withthis squirrel with him, show him
the value of life, and that thefact that, hey, you made it, the
squirrel made it, really justtouching back on the principles
(03:32):
of creation and going with God.
And look, that is important tous as natives.
I mean, down to the point whereI when I tell you, God shows up
because remember, I told youthey flushed his owl feather,
which was significant for him.
That was his first feather ashis rite of passage as a young
native man.
So they flushed his owl featherdown the toilet when he brought
it to school to share with otherpeople.
(03:54):
But when I tell you that a weekago, a snowy owl, where I work
in Colonial Williamsburg as anAfro-Indigenous interpreter, we
had a snowy owl that it crossedover.
And so the owl was back there.
We were able to process the owl,and everybody got feathers for
the encampment where we arealready indigenous.
(04:14):
And I got the the my son, myother, my older son, and one of
the other girls we work withprocessed it, and she made sure
to replace his owl feather.
SPEAKER_01 (04:26):
Awesome.
SPEAKER_00 (04:27):
So that connection to creator and understanding
that it's important for us asAfro-Indigenous peoples to
connect because this is theland, this is where my mother's
tribe came here.
We're connected to theMatapinaya and the Rappahannock.
And so it's important for me touh help him understand that you
know, proud Afro-Indigenouspeoples here with the Nottaway,
(04:47):
the palm monkey, having him ableto see himself in something
other than ghetto rap culture.
Yeah, that's not who we are as awhole, and I'm so tired of that.
That you know, anything outsideof the norm where everybody
here, everybody in theseapartments are living like
they're living in urban upstateNew York, it is really not that
(05:08):
serious in Virginia.
The mentality that exists withif you can't afford five kids,
don't have five kids, sisters ofall colors.
If you can't afford the baby,don't have the baby.
Because the stress you createfor your children when you
cannot give them the attentionthey need is why we have so many
bullies.
(05:29):
These are kids who need love,but they don't know how to
receive it because it's neverbeen extended to them in the
proper fashion.
They've either been maintainedor tolerated.
Because a child with love intheir heart would do exactly
what my son did.
Understand, this kid's got atough time.
(05:50):
This kid did share with my sonthe information about his mother
and his father being in jail.
And my son really did want toreach out and tell him, Oh, my
mom's really cool.
You should come to the house.
My mom works on cars with us,and you know, that's the joke at
the auto part stuff.
We go up there and they're like,Your mom came car parts picking
because I've been mom and dad tomy boys, right?
(06:11):
And so, given the opportunity,he could have come to our house
and experienced some love, maybesome some maternal compassion
that he's missing without hismother, but without the the
responsible people to intervenethat without the proper
guidance, without the properguidance, because somewhere down
the line, this child is notbeing mine.
SPEAKER_01 (06:34):
He hates the fact that I I don't know if it's more
so I I can't, I don't know, I'mnot in his brain, but I don't
know more so if it's hatebecause look, psychologically
it's or is it because he'sblack?
SPEAKER_00 (06:47):
And I believe that it is not even if you want to
get to the root cause, honestly.
I don't believe it's either.
I believe that that's what hefeels he needs to forwardly
project to express this anger atJaden, but I believe that in
seeing Jaden's mom showed up.
I don't have a mom.
Yeah, Jaden's mom keeps showingup.
So the idea is to piss me offbecause it's that deep and he
(07:11):
doesn't understand that this istransference.
I don't have a mom.
My dad's in jail, my grandpalets me do what I want.
That is not uh I'm bragging.
That is a cry for help.
I don't have a safe space when Igo home.
SPEAKER_01 (07:23):
A cry for help.
You hit that right on the nose.
I believe the child has a cryfor help, but the system, his
grandparents is not supportingand give the child what he
needs.
SPEAKER_00 (07:34):
Exactly.
And let me tell you about thatsystem as we speak of it.
So when Jaden needed mentalhealth here at the high school,
I asked for him to speak to theguidance counselor.
Do you know that they send himto they have paid mental health
professionals in the high schooland tell you they're gonna send
them to the counselor?
Send them to a counselor andthen send you a bill.
He was already in counseling atDistrict 19 free because they
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found that the school had beenunsupportive.
But when he went to C C VHS hereat the school, because they have
some little undergroundsubclinic where you can get
birth control, you could doeverything you want without
requiring a parent to be presentbecause they think they're doing
us a favor.
What they're doing is taking theliability off of parents for
being parents.
Counsel if your children onkeeping their legs closed, raise
(08:19):
them up to have self-value, thattheir vaginas and their penises
are not the value of who theyare as a person, nor is their
skin color.
It's the content of theirhearts, their minds, and how
they treat other human beings.
But we've gotten so far awayfrom that because everybody
wants to be on a platform.
And I am, I am an advocate.
I identify as queer, but that isnot the focus for school.
(08:42):
It is not focusing.
No child should be transitioninguntil they are adults.
That is things you can't do.
So no, I don't support it.
And I'm queer, and I'm one ofthe few queer voices that says
we do not give those drugs toour children while their bodies
and minds are still forming.
Because when we do that, whathappens if in the end your young
(09:02):
daughter who seems to identifyas male right now, you give her
testosterone, she can't havebabies?
And what happens if she's 28years old and realizes that that
top surgery she got at 17 is notwhat she wanted, that she wants
to be a lesbian and live herlife with another woman and she
can't have children.
Now that's another cycle ofdepression because she has to
contend with the fact that onlyher partner can carry the child
(09:24):
because of decisions that adultsmade.
No, no, no, no, no, no.
Mental health, yes.
Mental health, yes.
We foster them on their journey.
We do not butcher our children,we do not continue to perpetuate
sexuality in an environmentwhere education should be
tantamount.
That's the problem.
Everybody's so caught up inwhere we're gonna pee and who's
(09:45):
on social media.
The children have lost sight oflearning.
SPEAKER_01 (09:48):
Yes.
So what message would you giveto a parent who, especially
mothers whose children arefacing bullying, racism, and
neglect from schools?
Now we've already heard the thewhat advice that you have for
those other children.
SPEAKER_00 (10:06):
I'm gonna double down.
I'm gonna double down.
Parents, stop being afraid totake your children out of school
systems that are not working foryou.
Use your voice and start talkingto the news, to the media,
everywhere else.
Stop sending your children backinto the danger zone because
somebody tells you, becausewe're black, we should trust
each other.
No, you don't trust them anymorethan you trust strange white
people with your children, andwhite people, same thing.
(10:28):
Do not trust anybody becausethey lean into you on race, race
baiting, racial identity meansnothing.
Nothing.
Because I'm tired.
SPEAKER_01 (10:37):
The police officer that said he was Hawaiian, his
race was black, black.
SPEAKER_00 (10:42):
He is a he is he he is supposed to be a pillar of
the black community, but said myson was acting like a young
nigga.
Really?
That's how we talkprofessionally to people.
But then uh also when I showedup, uh Jaden, I didn't know your
mom was Hawaiian.
Because my first name is Nioki,and because I took a flat iron
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to the hair that I purchased.
See, if my hair wouldn't haveblended in so good with the
beauty store hair, they wouldn'thave they would have seen if
they'd have looked a littleharder and paid attention that I
am black.
But again, the perception isthat Jane's mom is Spanish, and
I'm tired of uh uh us beinguneducated.
Spanish is not a race, that isnot a creed, and everybody oh,
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she's Spanish.
Oh, we are so content in ourignorance.
That's why we can't get ahead.
Because people like us who don'tgo for the dish that yo, people
who come into a space usingproper vernacular, and then when
we're amongst our friends again,we we adopt what's comfortable
for us, we're not well receivedeither.
(11:47):
Because when I speakintelligently, oh she acts
white.
Oh, here I come here's mom againacts white.
SPEAKER_01 (11:53):
I never could understand that I never could
understand that growing up.
It's like you talk white, likeeven my granddaughter.
Why is it white?
Why couldn't it just be a properway set of a proper way?
SPEAKER_00 (12:05):
My mom went to school in England.
My mom drops drops her H's.
So my mother looks like me, isvery, very, very much a black
woman, and she'll drop a oh wellthe H.
She doesn't even say the letterH correctly.
She she grew up in Englandbecause my grandfather was in
the Air Force.
My parents did not raise me tosound like uh, as that as the
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officer would say, those Y-Ns.
So I don't promote it.
And then the moms who, if youwant your son's butt hanging out
like uh he's been for free inprison, uh, we need to stop with
this damn prison culture.
Everybody we love on TV lockedup.
That's ignorant.
That's why our childrenperpetuate that.
Because young moms strippingwant to be friends with their
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daughters, have them out here ina lifestyle.
Yeah, young and fast.
That's us.
Until we clean it up, and it'swhite people too.
Until this generation stopstrying to be friends, half
dressed with their kids.
We're gonna continue to have amental health problem because
the problem is most of thesechildren were raised by first
generation iPads, and now we'reon what, the 10th generation?
So we got 10 generations ofiPads raising misinformed youth
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who are being incentivized andlook incentivized and actuated
on things like Discord, who areteaching them to groom each
other.
It's other sick adults with noculpability.
And instead of us checking on,we know our kids are on Discord.
Why, why, as parents, haven't wedone something to get some
ordinances to shut this down?
Because it's easier to go inbecause most of us can't not re
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are are retired working twojobs.
I know I am.
It is not an option.
SPEAKER_01 (13:40):
So there's a dating site on one of the is that
Roblox?
Yes.
They're putting a dating site onRoblox.
SPEAKER_00 (13:47):
Oh, Roblox is Roblox had another chat forum where
they were grooming people to uhkill their pets, um, expose
sexual content.
Now, let me tell you whathappened.
I had an experience with one ofmy family members who sent uh a
picture in underwear at the ageof 14.
And guess what?
They got in trouble too.
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They and the recipient were onprobation in another state
against they could not have anyelectronics for three years.
SPEAKER_01 (14:18):
Wow.
SPEAKER_00 (14:19):
And maybe, maybe, maybe if we stop letting damn
cell phones in school, look, I'mfor everybody being able, but
them little ziploc bags,everybody remember how you used
to have to put your baby'sdiaper bag in a cubby at the
daycare center.
That's exactly where them phonesshould go.
Them teachers should have shoetrees where you put your phone
and at the end of class, butthen still that phone by these
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parents, the phone needs to belocked down during school hours.
I'm tired of seeing glossy lipsand short skirts.
I'm tired of seeing no chestmuscles flexing in the middle of
the school day.
You you're not strong enough toget your lesson, but you
standing out with all 87 poundsand a bird chest flexing,
talking about I get all thebitches.
Or I'm a hot bitch.
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Why are we bitches?
Why are we bitches and pimps?
SPEAKER_01 (15:07):
You know why?
Because I will say, becausetelevision number one is a lack
of parental guidance, a lack ofparental guidance.
This is the the cycle that theywill have us in to keep us where
we're done.
SPEAKER_00 (15:22):
I'm a bad bitch.
I'm a bad bitch.
No, thank you, no, thank you,no, thank you, no, thank you,
no, thank you.
SPEAKER_01 (15:29):
Yes, I am a woman of character, yes, I am an
experienced veteran, I am a peerally, and you see what they call
us when we're an uh educated uhJasmine Crockett, for example.
Oh you see, she's so ghetto,even though she was properly
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raised with a two-parenthousehold, educated now.
SPEAKER_00 (15:52):
She's ghetto because she wears false eyelashes.
Oh Lord, help me and mylight-skinned self if I get up
there, because then there comesthe other argument.
This is the other one, becauseI'm light-skinned, I expect.
Um, no, it's because I am aparent who expects that when you
take a job as a teacher, ifyou're gonna sit up here and
talk about how much you don'tget paid, then show me what kind
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of, because you're getting paidexactly for what you're doing
for my child right now.
I will not advocate forfacilitators who don't
facilitate.
And that my problem being thatuh again, I'm a course
curriculum developer and I'vedeveloped courses for missile
systems and such.
So thank you, U.S.
Army, yeah, for making me, oh,making me fantabulous after the
Marine Corps decorated me well,the army put, you know, put more
(16:38):
jewels in my crown.
So when I'm addie certified toteach and I go give you my
credentials and I can be asubstitute teacher, but because
you don't see me at FirstBaptist Church, maybe I'll go to
church on base with the rest ofmy constituents, ma'am.
Maybe I used to work for thecommand chaplain, so I know all
the chaplains over there andthey've known me since I was a
young Marine, so it makes moresense to be in an environment in
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which I'm familiar with familiarwith.
SPEAKER_01 (17:01):
I so agree with that.
SPEAKER_00 (17:03):
Oh my goodness, you're gonna judge me because I
don't come to your church whenyour pastor four years ago and I
do my research.
Your pastor was in trouble witha different church under a
different name and isn't a newname driving a purple Cadillac.
I have no interest, thank you.
SPEAKER_01 (17:21):
Well, that being said, so look, we have a you you
started to GoFundMe and uh toretain a lawyer for Jaden.
Yes, and um so um what what wasthe amount that you have?
SPEAKER_00 (17:36):
I think we had it up because everybody was saying
like 10,000.
I don't believe that that is fora special education lawyer.
I think we put it at 5,500because that at least can get us
somebody who specializes inspecial education, and it's not
just justice for Jaden.
We have a lot of specialeducation students who have been
abused here in Petersburg, andI'm an advocate.
I am autistic.
(17:56):
All three of my children areautistic.
I functioned, I went toMonastery School, and because of
where we were, my dad was aMarine in California at the
time.
So in 1975, through my school, Iwas a product of Department of
Defense schools, and because ofthat, being on base, my teachers
were professors.
You had to be, you had to haveat least two years of collegiate
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teaching, it be it at acommunity college or at a major
university to teach at DODschools at one time.
So I am the product of a goodeducation, and so for me,
understanding that that's anecessity, when we don't have
the proper resources for specialeducation, they become bad kids
by nature.
James Autistic, he gets bored,he stems, and then because the
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teacher is acting ignorant, hemakes a comment.
Now he's a bad kid because he'sgot a snappy mouth.
Well, when he knows that you'rea teacher and you shouldn't be
engaging in certain behavior andhe calls you on it in front of
the class and then you punishhim.
Well, if we had more assistancein the classrooms like were
required, and this cut to theDepartment of Education, maybe
if some oversight to happen, youknow what?
Roll it up underneath thegovernment.
(19:02):
Make the IG have to inspect itevery year, like everything else
in the military.
See, if we start making sublets,how about all of us military
instructors who are addingcertified up to the fifth grade?
If we need supplements, howabout call some of us back to
active duty who would like tofacilitate?
How about those of us who areretired who could facilitate for
the DOD, who are already doingit for our soldiers, sailors,
marines, and Coast Guard rightnow.
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Make that a department of themilitary and run it tight, tight
like a ship.
SPEAKER_01 (19:29):
With the with the administration we have right
now, I don't even know.
SPEAKER_00 (19:34):
No, because let me tell you, um, I I am not uh I I
I have interacted and yeah, PeteHague Seth, while he was a
Marine, wasn't anything to talkabout.
So our our department, our warchief, our war chief, while we
wasted money changing names ofdepartments, being asinine
because somebody's ego, becausehe's going senile right in front
of us, and yes, I'll continue tosay it.
Uh, I have served undereveryone.
(19:55):
Did I want to go to war in Iraq?
No.
Did I have an attitude withPresident Bush when I met him?
Yes.
Yes, because I went to standnext to General Krack and
Sergeant Major Barrett, becauseI had nothing to say to him when
they caught him on a hot micsaying they tried to shoot my
goddamn daddy.
That's what we went to war for,not because we vetted everybody
else.
And when me and my husband kepthaving to deploy, I developed a
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callous skin.
But did I ever act like this?
No, I did my job.
And for those of us stillserving, not getting paid
because his ego is so big, thatis an affront.
And then for him to take awayhealth care for the very kids my
kid is getting counselingbecause he's autistic, that kid
has parents in jail.
So for this time, it's not theblack kid who has a
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stereotypical house, it's notthe black kid in the trailer
park, it's not the black kidbeing the bully, it's not the
black kid, and I don't hear anyvoices advocating.
None of them because if it wasthe black kid that it beat the
white kid, who now the white kidat 270 pounds is saying that he
feared for his life when my sonfought back because my son's
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black.
That's funny to me.
SPEAKER_01 (21:03):
As a mother, um, what kind of future do you dream
for Jaden now beyond this point?
Um being as though, you know,um, we're gonna put it out there
to go fund me.
But like you said, I like whatyou said.
You don't advocate just forJaden, and that's that is very
that is the same way, samementality I have.
(21:24):
I don't advocate just for oneperson, one grandchild, one
child.
I was just saying if I canadvocate for every anybody that
I can reach and I could touch,this is the reason for B3U.
It's not about just one race,one person.
We are we should be advocatingfor everybody.
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I believe they should just getrid of race and call it the
human race.
SPEAKER_00 (21:50):
Exactly, because we are human.
Our citizens doesn't change oureffect because some people can
be dark-skinned and never havestruggled a day in their life
because they came into wealth,family wealth generations.
That's not just white people,and there are white people out
there going through rightalongside their constituents of
color and they're friends andthey're not racist, and they
support each other.
(22:11):
It's plenty of single white andblack mothers babysitting each
other's kids, and they'regetting the multicultural aspect
because it is a necessity tosupport each other.
And if I could do anything,that's what we need, just like
on base, on base, every kid is ashade of green, and we teach
that, and we teach that in themilitary, and if I could do
anything, if the vim and vigorwith which we we strike up every
(22:35):
other cause to change the namesand tear down statues, how about
we reinvest some of that moneyand get some uh get some
qualified healthcare providers,some forensic psychologists that
can look at that that once aweek look at our pattern
misbehaviors.
Once a week they review thosefive or four plans so that those
children can be referenced, bereferred for additional help.
And how about we stop takingmoney from the programs that
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keep kids from shooting upschools?
These kids need mental healthcare.
Mental health care professionalsare a necessity in a blended
environment for those who do notlearn the same way.
Neurodivergent kids react todifferent stimulus.
And if that stimulus is themgetting beat up, they are going
to fight back.
And when we fight back, when wereach a point that everybody's
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beat us up, we black out.
This is where you take people onthe spectrum and you make
killers out of them because youdon't listen.
And that that knows no racialbounds.
Those kids that shoot up schoolsare kids that have suffered,
they've suffered a lack ofsomething somewhere, be it the
absence of parental love andsupervision.
So they're bullies.
Or these kids who feel likethey're unloved that are taking
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their own lives because theirparents are getting bullied too,
because their parents are poor,their parents have a demographic
in which they're embarrassed up,and these kids are getting
picked on for circumstances theycannot help.
They can't go get a job.
Their main job is to bestudents.
If we don't start to getadvocacy at that level and start
involving CPS and stuff otherthan stealing children, how
about reciprocal programs torebuild the family?
(24:03):
Rebuild the family at its core,make it the goal to keep the
family together instead ofstealing people.
SPEAKER_01 (24:10):
Since you are speaking today, I I I hope many
ears will hear and action willbe taken.
Um let me ask you about uh thecommunity.
Is anybody in that community?
Is it the community, somebodyhelping you stay grounded?
Who's helping you through thesetimes?
SPEAKER_00 (24:28):
With yourself and a few of my other veteran friends,
and this is sad, there's noexternal community that is
reaching out to console me,other than the individual police
officers that took it uponthemselves.
Um, Officer Tarwet Tar Tawarik,um, Omar Tawarek.
And look, let me tell yousomething about him because he
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comes from a Persian background,a Middle Eastern background, at
first, the reverse prejudicethat existed because nobody
really wanted to give him achance.
And I have that on insideinformation because I know who I
associate with.
But the chief gave him a chance.
And shout out to the policechief of Petersburg, who is
breaking some of this monotonyand doing his best, their best,
because they're trying.
But the complicit officers thatdon't want to do their job
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because there's too much goingon here.
We got shootings going on up anddown Crater Road.
The police are exhausted too.
And although I I I I empathizewith them, that's still not an
excuse when it comes to ourjunior children.
But they're not doing anythingfor the, you know, not there's
no funding for ride-alongs.
There's no funding to build acommunity where the children
trust the police.
There's a bunch of drug addictparents out here raising kids
(25:34):
like feral cats.
And there's no community, there,there's no community outreach.
There's no funding for it.
And then the funding that startsat the beginning of the year is
usually depleted.
There is nothing out there asfar as Afro-Indigenous resources
right here in Petersburg.
I have seen nothing.
Not even an after-school groupwhere he can go as an
Afro-Indigenous young man andconnect with culture because uh,
(25:56):
well, you're black of the YMCA.
I'm like, what the hell did youjust say to me?
I'm looking for cultural aspectswhere my son can go with other
Afro-Indigenous folks and learnto make some regalia, learn to
do something reconnecting, learnto be in a drummer circle.
See, the things that'll keep mychild in culture will also keep
him from committing crimes anddoing those things because
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culturally he'll be honor bound.
So I'll know that if he'sparticipating in culture, if he
chooses to step outside, it'snot for a lack of immersion in
culture, it's a per it's apersonal choice that his
autonomy is making him choose todo the wrong thing.
But in the absence of adequateresources for these kids, what
choice do they have to includethe young man who attacked my
(26:37):
son?
What do they have?
Yeah, it costs too much forsports.
We no longer have any people.
Look, there's a lot of money outthe people out there who could
donate a lot of money so yousports could be free in these
areas, and they don't.
I live on my VA pension alone.
I didn't get concurrent receiptbecause trust, if I did, I would
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take my money and put it intothe community, and what little I
have, I do.
SPEAKER_01 (27:01):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (27:02):
But without those people who have deep pockets
doing more things and buildingbars and building libraries, we
need sports programs.
We need, look, I get it.
The school library is a start,building commemorative libraries
for kids who can't read.
So they're never gonna go tothem.
SPEAKER_01 (27:19):
And you know, as a veteran, you know, uh, well, you
you already know this is why,you know, and I I'm a true
believer that if we're gonnacomplain, and if you're gonna
complain, then just be quiet.
But if you're going, if you wantto make a difference, don't just
talk about it, do about it, dosomething about it.
And that's the reason why Icreated my nonprofit.
(27:39):
And that's what that I'm just sointo giving back to the
community, helping thecommunity.
I have to tell, I have tosometimes ignore phone calls
where I watch young women callmonth after month after month
for the same money.
SPEAKER_00 (27:54):
It's not there, and that's a thing.
When we run out, when we have alittle to give, and then it's
difficult to walk away becauseyou're tapped.
Because personally, look, I Ireached out a young lady.
Her son was being secreted fromher by the child's father for
three weeks.
He cut off her phone with whatlittle, what last little line of
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credit I had.
I went and got that child aphone.
She has a four-year-old and atwo-year-old, and the father,
because they had beencohabitating, had all the upper
hand because he had financiallocus of control.
Yeah, but now I know.
And then it's like somebody elseasked me for help.
That's all I could do.
That's outside of taking care ofmy son, the the the ability to
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reach out.
That was the last I could do wasthat phone.
And see, organizations likeyours shouldn't, we should
never, especially when when wewant to go out and help.
People don't understand whenyou're an advocate how difficult
it is because you can't pick upthe phone and advocate, because
you can't listen to anotherstory to break your heart and
say, I really wish I could dosomething.
SPEAKER_01 (28:56):
Oh my goodness.
SPEAKER_00 (28:57):
Because I can't take from my mortgage.
Yeah, I can't take from mymortgage.
I have to have a house for mychild.
And it pains me because thereare times when I know that
somebody could use that moneyI'm paying for my mortgage to
get them out of an abusivesituation, and I can't do
anything for them.
So if I could do anything, I askpeople, I compel you, I compel
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the audience out there to donateto your organization so we can
get to work.
We have things to do with nofunds to do them.
And we have so many people whoare in need, and all it is skip
your skip one cup of coffee aweek.
SPEAKER_01 (29:30):
What just one cup, one cup of coffee.
SPEAKER_00 (29:32):
Five dollars goes a long way in mailing out and
buying paper and going to dopresentations to put gas in our
car to go help someone out of asituation.
That stuff, it goes so far.
SPEAKER_01 (29:44):
It is so hard during this time of year, especially to
watch children.
You know, it gets cold.
But when you sitting and youwatching children in an empty
parking lot with drug addictparent uh drug addict parents or
parents, and you have to sit andwatch children.
Freezing cold.
It's like I could not sit back,and we are both retired
(30:05):
veterans.
Exactly.
All of the money that I get ismainly from my pocket.
SPEAKER_00 (30:11):
And it's look, and and it's these agencies as well.
When people are talking aboutit, get those coats.
Why in the world?
Why in the world would you takea pair of scissors to a coat and
throw it in a dumpster insteadof use that clause for
charitable donation and write itoff because managers are too
lazy to do reports?
Too lazy.
So instead, oh, we're gonna dumpit at Goodwill.
(30:33):
Well, Goodwill makes a profit.
Goodwill makes a profit.
Take it to individuals like uswho are watching these coats in
our house to do coat drives.
SPEAKER_01 (30:42):
You better speak today.
You speaking today because a lotof my donors will not take it to
Goodwill.
They give it to me.
SPEAKER_00 (31:03):
My grandson's clothes go to other children
because I know that they'retaken care of.
And when I thrift and I movethings from other veterans, they
go to needy families.
If I know somebody who's givingaway clothing for a four to
five-year-old child, guess what?
I'll swap out if they need mymicrowave because I know
somebody is gonna be young andneed the clothing for that
child.
So I'm and you know what?
A lending locker is something wedesperately need.
(31:25):
We don't have a lending locker.
Where I mean, if somebody wanteda rotor tiller, donate that, and
you come to the lending locker,you you borrowed a rotor tiller
so you can plant your garden.
These are things that acommunity needs.
SPEAKER_01 (31:38):
We need it.
Finally, Naoki, I want to um, ifyou could speak directly to the
audience today, uh, for thosewatching, uh, what do you want
the world to know about Jaden,about justice, and about never
giving up?
SPEAKER_00 (31:54):
Jaden right now is kind of the poster child for
those kids who go above andbeyond with special needs.
So I want for every parent outthere who has a child on the
spectrum or with some otherspecial need, I want you to
remember that their capabilitiesare so much greater than people
put out for them.
Jaden's capacity to love andreach out to this other student.
(32:15):
I want everyone to know thathe's not a perfect kid.
He tries to get in trouble likeeverybody else, just
unfortunately, he's not a slick.
But for him and for, I mean, forall children, it children, and
it's not necessarily justchildren with special needs.
Some of our kids out there thatmight have not have academic
needs have special needsemotionally.
(32:35):
And when we take it, be be anactive parent, take those five
minutes, and I I compel you, askyour child what's going on
because they're being told,don't talk to your parents, talk
to me on online, make friendsonline.
They're being groomed and notjust sexually, they're being
groomed for violence.
(32:56):
And since we don't see our kidsget sex trafficked or picked up
every day, they're beinghijacked by these computers.
Get the net nanny.
Get on those computers, get inthese phones, know what your
children are doing, lock downthat screen time and go through
that phone, know their friends,stop letting these appliances
raise your children because itis a hotbed for trouble.
(33:18):
These kids are acting outviolently with no remorse
because it's normalized throughthese platforms.
SPEAKER_01 (33:24):
You know what?
That the social media sometimessome of the parents babysitters,
that's the problem.
Absolutely, and so is YouTube.
SPEAKER_00 (33:31):
But see, they get in the habit of letting these kids
watch YouTube, and some of thatcontent on YouTube is not for
children.
SPEAKER_01 (33:36):
It's not, you know, I just learned that YouTube
kids, you even have to monitorthat.
SPEAKER_00 (33:43):
Yes, that's where I got the most offended because on
YouTube kids, I'm going throughsomething that I think is
age-appropriate for a child wholikes YouTube videos, and
there's a grown person withlanguage that mimics the
language so they don't getdemonetized.
But um, when I'm seeing on aYouTube kids, um, I didn't even
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know, God forbid, I'm sorry, butI I just wasn't with it.
That little eggplant emoji, allthese other emojis that mean
something else, yeah.
That our kids know that I gottago and get a concordance to
translate what's being said on aphone.
I learned some stuff I can'teven unlearn.
And the problem is they learnedit online.
So if we could we could holdthese folks accountable and I
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get everybody out free speech,free speech.
Well, some of these platforms,you don't want your 15-year-old
daughter having free speech onCert.
So if you're gonna talk aboutfree speech, let's talk about
your 15-year-old daughter isdamn near topless on the
internet, but you want freespeech, but you are not policing
what your child is doing, orsome of these people out here
professing that, oh well, my theinternet's not raising my child.
(34:47):
Your child is the one who isgoing to school being a bully
because somebody else on theinternet is is hyping him up to
go after the kids who won'taccept him.
So now he is the anti-hero.
Now they're taking comic booksand mixing it with real life.
So you get these folks actingout these comic book scenarios
who are in desperate need ofmental health.
Mental health.
(35:08):
When you catch somebody who'sbroken, you can break them
further.
One more time, mental health?
When you mental health, becausewhen you catch somebody who's
broken, you can break themfurther if they do not have
adequate mental health sources.
SPEAKER_01 (35:22):
That is so correct.
Naoki, I just want to thank youfor coming on B3U for taking
your power back for that triesto be taken from you.
And I I just applaud you forbeing an advocate, not only just
for your son, but all those inthe community.
And I look forward, my sister,my sister in arms, working with
you to help justice be done.
(35:44):
My to my audience, um, uh, wewill put the um the GoFundMe up.
Um, we will send any link in anyway that I can help.
Uh, let's do it together becausethis is what it's all about.
SPEAKER_00 (35:59):
It's bigger than my baby.
And that's what I tell everyone.
It's bigger than my baby.
And I've been mistreated by thepolice departments because they
keep this individual mentality.
That child is still at school.
What happens if he has anotherfluctuation in his mood swings?
What happens if the anniversaryhits for mom or dad going to
jail or mom's death and he turnsagainst another student because
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Jaden's situation wasn't takenseriously.
And I can I could be themouthpiece for my baby.
But the fact of the matter is,if that little boy would have
been open to it, he could havecome over here and got hugs and
loves because I got enough momto go around.
And so I can't, I can be upsetat what he did, but I'm more
upset at the system that failedhim, too.
SPEAKER_01 (36:39):
Yes, yes, the system has.
And that is so true word spoken.
You have a beautiful heart, andmay you be blessed beyond
measures.
I'm going to, we're gonna keep,we're gonna keep a close watch.
You already know.
Absolutely.
Look, we've got work to do.
SPEAKER_00 (36:54):
We've got work to do.
Immobilizing, look, moms first.
Look, I come from a tribe thatmatrilineal leadership was
everything, and the women tookthe helm on everything.
Men couldn't even go to warwithout the permission of the
women in the Eastern Woodlandstribes.
And when we gather as women,because only a woman can reach
through the ether and bring backa soul.
So you must have her permissionbefore you put it in harm's way.
(37:14):
He doesn't have a mom.
So who will stand in with thatenergy on the behalf of this
child and ask for his help?
I will.
Because he went against thematernal order of things and
tried to take my child in myculture.
I'm obligated to seek assistancefor those who try to harm me.
And sometimes it's hard, butsomewhere somebody failed him
(37:35):
too.
SPEAKER_01 (37:36):
Yeah.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (37:38):
And it's tough.
It's tough to love when you wantto hate.
SPEAKER_01 (37:41):
Yeah, it is.
It is.
But we're going to keep doingthe good work.
We're going to keep in touch,we're going to keep educating,
we're going to keep uhempowering empowering advocacy
through empathy.
SPEAKER_00 (37:54):
Advocacy through empathy.
We have to understand from bothperspectives.
Otherwise, it's just a witchhunt on either side, which is
what I learned.
When they can't lay fault on oneor the other, instead of turning
inwards to see where itoccurred, where we can prevent
it, they want to point fingers.
Both these children were failedby the school system.
(38:16):
Both of them.
So it we gotta look at thesesystems that are in place that
continue to fail.
Hold these facilitatorsaccountable, hold them
accountable.
Stop sweeping stuff under therug.
I get it.
If you lose a teacher, butwouldn't you rather lose a
teacher who's ineffective thanallow a teacher who's being
abusive to children and breakingrules to continue to do this and
put your school system in aliability for a lawsuit?
(38:38):
Because right now, let's faceit, I have to lawyer up for this
situation.
Do I want to sue the school anddeplete resources?
No, I do not.
But without that, without somekind of punitive damage, they
will continue to fail to actbecause it's been since sixth
grade and he's in 10th gradenow.
SPEAKER_01 (38:57):
Yes.
Yes.
So I thank you.
Thank you, sis, for having meon.
Yes, yes, that is right fullyout.
SPEAKER_00 (39:07):
Prayer, power, and perseverance, sis.
Prayer, power, perseverance.
That, that, that right there onmy mirror.
Prayer, power, perseverance.
Because we are not going to giveup until we see the change that
we want to see.
SPEAKER_01 (39:19):
That's right.
Well, I will not, I will notgive up.
I will not give up.
And here, B3U, I want to thankall my listeners for tuning in
because we are in effect oftaking back power.
Thank you for having me.
SPEAKER_00 (39:32):
Thank you, new friends and future friends who
are out there who listen to mystory.
I hope reach out to us if youwant to be a part of this.
We do.
We need an active base to keepthis stuff moving because it's
not just one child, it's thewellness of every child and
those who are coming behind.
SPEAKER_01 (39:49):
Thank you.
Miss Nayok Naoki.
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