September 26, 2025 • 23 mins
The journey from being misunderstood to discovering your true potential often requires someone who can see the diamond beneath the rough exterior. In this profound conversation with Prophetess Moina Tucker, founder of The Altar Experience, we uncover how early labels nearly limited her future before a dedicated teacher recognized her gifts.
Prophetess Tucker shares her remarkable transition from being placed in remedial classes to discovering her spiritual calling. With raw honesty, she reveals how mentorship transformed her life and shaped her ministry philosophy: "Seeing people, not looking at them." This powerful distinction guides her approach to connecting with those who might feel judged or excluded in traditional religious settings.
Through vivid metaphors, Tucker explains how diamonds form deep within the earth until they become so magnificent the pressure pushes them to the surface, where they finally shine when exposed to air. Similarly, many of us wait beneath the surface for someone to recognize our potential or for circumstances to push us toward our destiny.
The conversation takes a practical turn as Tucker addresses the challenges of balancing multiple roles—pastor, military veteran, publisher, wife, mother, and grandmother. Her candid admission that "sometimes I didn't have it together" offers refreshing permission for listeners to acknowledge their own struggles. Her wisdom shines in statements like "You can't pour from an empty cup" and "Have your moment, but don't let your moment have you"—acknowledging emotions while refusing to be defined by them.
For anyone questioning their purpose or facing setbacks, Tucker provides actionable guidance: align your work with your passion, study your craft, learn from others, and most importantly, protect your energy by setting boundaries. "Stop giving people the best of you that don't deserve you," she advises, drawing from biblical wisdom about discernment.
Whether you're seeking spiritual renewal, struggling to overcome labels, or simply needing encouragement to reclaim your power, this conversation offers both comfort and challenge. Share this episode with someone who needs to be reminded of their diamond-like potential!
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Speaker 1 (00:10):
Hello everyone, welcome to Beat For you and I'm
your girl, brie Charles, thehost of the show, and I am so
excited about what we are goingto be running all month long,
and that is the altar experience.
This was an experience like noother.
I truly had a great timeinterviewing some of the guests
(00:32):
at the altar experience.
I want to just thank, right now, pastor Moena Tucker and Jamie
Tucker for inviting me out tothe altar experience, where I
was blessed beyond measure withthe words that was coming out,
so I'm hoping that you as wellhere, my listeners are just as
(00:53):
blessed as I was to hear some ofthe interviews and some of the
entertainment that we will beshowing all month long.
So take a look, enjoy andremember, burn through the pad,
break the cycle and becomeunstoppable.
This is what it's all about.
Check it out.
Well, well, well.
(01:14):
We have Prophetess Moena Tucker, the backbone of the altar
experience and good friendfriend for over 25 years has
invited me out to this amazingexperience, and when I tell
y'all y'all could see, y'allcould see that I have been
(01:36):
overpoured into.
This moment of the hour hasbrought amazing.
The word amazing isn't even theproper word for the experience
that I got here this weekend.
This was a powerful event and Ijust want to say publicly thank
you so much for inviting me outto this.
(01:58):
So, moina, tell my audience alittle bit about yourself.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
Oh gosh, where can you begin with the testimonies?
Um, well, I think it'simportant for me to start off,
because I know you know theheart of what you do and we went
through something similar andlooked over.
Tell a week, we'll be able todo this and do that.
Um, so for me, my started.
I loved reading, but I readthem in a quirky way.
(02:26):
I would go from the back to thefront and when I got to school
they said I had a learningdisability and they put me in
remedial reading.
But I loved to read in whatcase it might be, but because
they labeled me I was in aspecial class.
So I stayed in a special classuntil somebody you'll see when
we're going somebody saw Like no, you are not remedial or
(02:48):
special you're gifted and whatthey were giving me wasn't
challenging, right, and fromthat point on I had to.
Um, I was given her name wasdiane richardson and she kept in
touch with me.
I'm going to be 55, 54.
She just died February.
So she was in my life from age11 up until she passed away
(03:11):
February this year and she wasthe first person to buy me my
first pair of dress shoes,teaching me how to eat in a
restaurant and put me in apoetry class.
So I'm saying that is that Ihad someone to see a diamond in
the rough.
And from that point on, when youtold me I couldn't, I was going
(03:35):
to, just because you told me Icouldn't, right, and it just got
, you know, bolder and bolderwith that Like, come on
challenges.
We went to the military.
She was 30.
I was 28.
And my mom was like you're 2L,you got three kids, you know.
And I'm like, no, I bet I am.
(03:57):
And there were times I wantedto quit, there were times you're
going to want to quit.
But what made me keep going isthe fact that the drill started
Like just quit, you can't do it.
And that motivated me.
Right, because I'm like youdon't get to tell me You're not
my father, you're not God, youdidn't create me, so you don't
get to tell me you're going toquit.
(04:18):
And so I worked harder.
When everybody was sleeping, Iwas running the track.
Faith without works is dead.
I had the faith and I put inthe work.
There it is, and it was becausethe faith and the work together
, things began to manifest.
And so you know my militaryjourney.
(04:42):
I never thought I would be aspeaker, a pastor, none of this.
I just never saw it.
But that's what I love aboutGod he peeks into your future.
He knows what you're going todo, when you're going to do it,
even if you fall off course.
He's always a GPS.
And so he led me to the heartof ministry.
The heart of my ministry iswomen that have been broken.
I know what it feels like to berejected.
(05:04):
I know what it feels like togrow up in a home without a
father.
You know my mom wasn't a beast,but she worked all the time, so
I was taking my older brother.
So you know, I know what itfeels like to be in a room full
of people by yourself, and soGod has taught me you know to be
(05:27):
okay.
Sometimes we're not being okay.
He's taught me how to encouragemyself and, you know, define
the good in people.
And check this out.
Diamonds are deeply rooted inthe earth.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
You know how a diamond gets to the surface?
How A diamond gets to thesurface?
Because it becomes so great, sogrand, that the earth can't
hold it anymore.
And so the earth literallypushes it up to the surface.
Mm-hmm, earth can't hold itanymore.
And so the earth literallypushes it up to the surface.
Because it gets so it irritatesthe earth and the earth is like
you got to go, I can't hold youanymore.
(06:06):
And so it literally, thepressure pushes it up and it
doesn't get its shine until thatfirst air hits it.
Wow, wow.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
Until that first air hits it.
And so a lot of us are justdiamonds in the ground, waiting
for the pressure, waiting forsomebody to discover us, so that
first air can hit us, so we canshine.
So the altar experience hasdone just that for me.
I'm going to speak for me.
You had so amazing paneliststhat came and spoke.
Oh, I wonder what?
What drives you to?
(06:50):
Because it's a lot.
I've seen the work that you hadbehind the scenes.
Behind the scenes, and, justbeing a woman, I know, know your
, your heart is in youreverything.
You give god the glory toeverything you do, and I'm sure
he is what keeps you well, Imean, I don't feel half step and
a half doing it, you know andyou did not um you give your all
(07:14):
to him and he says you'refaithful for few.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
He made you rule over many and I like.
Well, my motivation is I knewwhat it took for me to get to
God.
You couldn't come to me in nothree-piece suit, no St John
with your silk and all that on,because I'd be like girl.
What can you really tell me?
You know what can you relate?
(07:40):
You, dressed in a $100,000 suit, I got a baby in my hip trying
to find money to get pampers.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
So I'm not interested in what you've got to say in
your suit, and so I want toalways be relatable to people,
see them.
That's why I don't dress in alot of fancy stuff, not because
I, you know, don't have the kid,but I want the people to see me
.
You, I don't them to all thisbecause you know, and some
(08:11):
people are beautiful and they donot knock it, but for me it's
the heart of the women.
If the woman in the Bible, theprostitute that washed Jesus'
feet with her tears, if shewalks in here, I'm not going to
look her up and down and be like, oh my God, somebody get this
sprayer.
No, come on, babe, come on, I'mgoing to invite her in.
(08:36):
And that's what the altarexperience is about Seeing the
people, not looking at them.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
Oh, that's good, I just got that.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
That's good.
That was good Seeing the peoplenot looking at them Right.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
Mona, what age did God reveal that this is what he
wanted you to do?
Speaker 2 (08:58):
Now, amazingly, I've been seeing and hearing the
voice of God since I was seven.
I just didn't understand it.
So, because I didn't understandit.
I used to say it was ESPgrowing up, but deja vu.
And it wasn't until I met myspiritual mother, apostle RDC
Smith, and she began to explainmy gift to me and tell me, you
know thatle RDC Smith, and shebegan to explain my gift to me
(09:21):
and tell me, you know that I hada gift from God.
And then I met Mother Nicholsand she finished cultivating my
spiritual father.
So God put mentor and people inmy life to help me understand
what it was that I had been out,and it helped me to be able to
walk into a just like a pair ofred bottoms.
(09:43):
People think that you can walkon all type of terrain in a red
bottoms.
You're not supposed to walk onhard terrain in red bottoms.
You're supposed to walk on soft, smooth material so that the
red doesn't rub off.
So you got to know the shoesthat you're walking in.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
And you have some shoes that you are walking in.
You have been married to mybrother, jamie, for 33 years,
pastoring motherhood army.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
Magazine PR media.
My God Army Magazines PR media.
My God Mona, and, at one pointin time, taking care of my deal,
mom.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
With a woman of your background, which are the things
that you do.
How do you keep it?
Speaker 2 (10:34):
all together.
I'm going to be honest with you.
Sometimes I didn't together.
I'm going to be honest with you, sometimes I didn't.
It took me a while to findbalance, because sometimes I put
my children before me and I wassuffering.
Sometimes I put the churchbefore me and I was suffering,
and so you can't pour from anempty cup and you can't lead on
(10:59):
empty.
And so there was some Sundaysthat I would come and turn and
I'd be like I ain't got a wordfor you and I would get them all
to myself.
I was like I need healing and Ilearned how to get mine.
I learned that I ain't got toget up there and preach.
I ain't got to have amicrophone.
Nope, Let me get myself rightfirst.
Let me get mine so that I canget you help get yours.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
Let me tell you, it's a four letter word that I
learned today and I've heard itnumerous times.
And here you come and you bringin that word right back to
circle and that's rest.
I've heard it now from PastorChristy.
I've heard it from the DeandraRest.
And look, you have to rest.
(11:42):
You have to know when to say no.
No, and it's okay to say no, totake a break, and you're also a
grandmother, a greatgrandmother, can you?
Speaker 2 (11:57):
believe that.
Wow, and a very active one, tim, a very active one.
Just from my grandkids back,wow.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
A great grandmother.
I ain't even hit that yet, ohmy gosh.
So, with all that encouraging,like I say, not everybody knows
their purpose.
Everybody has a story, but noteverybody knows their purpose.
I know I used to be one ofthose people until God showed me
what it is he has for me to doand running these three
(12:25):
businesses that I have been allof this and now out here
speaking to people because Godgave me this word to speak.
It is really hard to maintainall that.
What would you say to somebodywho doesn't know their purpose,
their path, and they're justdefeated because they're tired
(12:48):
of everything that they're goingthrough?
What encouragement?
Speaker 2 (12:53):
Well, I would just say insanity is doing the same
thing over and over again, butgetting the same results, not
getting the different results.
So sometimes you're supposed tobe doing what you're doing but
you're not doing it becauseyou're doing it the wrong way.
And it takes a lot of prayer.
It takes people around you youknow like I'm helping you, it's
a hey of prayer.
It take people around you, youknow like I'm helping you, and
(13:15):
say, hey, brie, do it this way.
It take people pouring into you, sometimes studying, yes, your
craft, watching others that havedone it before you, yes, you
know, using your tools, research, you know.
Study, the bible says study toshow that self-approved.
And um, you know you have to doboth naturally and spiritually.
(13:36):
And so when finding yourpurpose, your purpose, go with
your passion, because I don'tcare what you do, if you don't
have a passion for it, you'llbegin to, you'll become
disgruntled and hate what you do.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
Speaking about passion, I know we had a little
when you had a little hiccupprior to the altar experience.
Yeah, and it was.
Most people would have had thatsituation happen and just blew
up, got defeated, saying youknow what, I'm not doing it,
it's not going to happen.
I mean, you could have done somuch.
(14:13):
When people are faced withthings that could defeat them,
what would you say?
Because I've seen you, but Iwant you to tell them how do you
deal with defeat?
You do all.
You've worked so hard to puttogether this.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
Okay, look, it turns out we gotta pause for the cause
.
Teacher lamar say they becausethey not like us.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
I'm not like them no but I've.
I've watched you come up with achallenge and to where I was
like, oh my god.
And at first you were likedrained, it was like sad.
But I've watched you but I wantyou to tell them, being a woman
, what you're doing and when.
You were like drained and waslike sad.
But I've watched you but I wantyou to tell them, being a woman
, what you're doing and when youwere faced with challenge and
defeat, how do you handle it?
Speaker 2 (15:00):
I have a saying a ponder that I've had for many
years.
I have many ponders, but thisis one of them have your moment,
but don't let your moment haveyou.
Have your moment, it's haveyour moment, it's okay.
The Bible gives you permissionto cry, to grieve and everything
, but don't let it have you.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
That's right.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
You need to have your moment because if you don't, it
packs down and you, sometimesour emotions and what we go
through is like an overpackedsuitcase.
We get to the airport and it's50 pounds.
That one pound costs $100 to$200.
One pound.
So instead I'm packing that onepound and carrying that dead
(15:46):
weight around.
Stop paying the price for stuffyou don't need, stuff that's
not destined to you, and so I'mlearning.
You know, if I'm not in control, I'm not in control.
You know, do the best I can andhave my moment.
Don't let my moment have me.
You know, and it's okay not tobe okay and when I fall, get
(16:08):
back up, dress myself up, try itagain and learn from it.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
You know learn from it, because what?
The whole weekend we've beensaying what I ain't going out
like that.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
We're not going out like that.
We ain't going out like that.
We ain't going out like that.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
Mona, thank you for having B3U out with the altar
experience.
It was truly an overjoy, anoverblessing.
I am wore out out.
I know y'all can hear my voice.
I'm gonna go back to that hotelroom and I'm just gonna flop
out, but thank you so much it'sgonna be us.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
They're gonna think it's a grizzly bear and a family
in there.
It was funny because I don'treally take naps and stuff, but
my cousin, I stopped through mysecond alarm and she came and
she said, mom, I need you to getup, baby.
And I was like, oh Lord, youknow.
So the body's tired and youlearn from it.
And one thing I will say to youis each opportunity, each
(17:08):
setting I'm in, I go back and Ido a recap of what I could do
better.
You know how to improve and youknow it is always about being
better.
You know doing better than itwas last time and take the good
and the bad because they workhand in hand, you know with it.
And, most of all, just keep atyour craft, keep practicing and
(17:32):
invest in you.
You know, have confidence in you.
How do we know basic training,throwing in the barracks a bunch
of females?
They didn't know.
And 25 years later we'll besitting here as adults believers
God knows Full circle.
You know, and that's reallywhat it's about.
(17:53):
Trust the Adults believers Godknows full circle.
You know, and that's reallywhat it's about.
Trust the process and know thatwhen you're going through it,
it's not your final destination.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
And the biggest thing that I speak about is taking
back my power.
That's who I am.
I'm taking back my power,taking my power back from so
many things, so many people thatI've given my power to.
Oh yes, so that is my message,that will be my message for back
from so many things, so manypeople that I've given my power
to.
Oh so that's what my, that ismy message, that will be my
message for at least a year.
It's about taking taking backmy power, and so I know who I am
, and learning what to get restand the Bible says don't cast
(18:25):
your pearl amongst wine, becausethey will turn on you and
trample over them.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
And basically what that mean is stop giving people
the best of you that don'tdeserve you, because they'll
trample over your gift, trampleover your kindness, trample over
you and go on to the nextperson.
That's right.
You have to use the wisdomfirst of all, and you have to be
okay with saying no.
Use your desire and pray aboutit and be like no, at this time
(18:50):
I'm not going in that direction.
Pray about it and be like no,at this time I'm not going in
that direction.
You know and just know, likeyou came here to you know, get
your interviews, to get you knowyour content and stuff.
But Brie also got what Brieneeded.
Oh, yes, I did.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
Yeah, you know, I came here with the mindset like
I'm just coming here to work,you know, to interview Dr.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
Capehart, so she was on that float.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
Oh my God, so I'm going to have to, oh my goodness
, I'm going to have to sharethis story because my focus, I'm
like, oh, I'm coming tointerview Dr Capehart and blah
blah blah, you know, and I'mhaving, you know, trying to
study all the panelists, andblah blah blah, apostle Nichols,
yes, she kicked it off andwhile I'm focusing here, she
(19:37):
came in with the message, likeand just, and I mean it was such
a I've been poured into lessbehind measures.
I mean I'm just, like I said,over, for how did you even pick
that panel out?
Speaker 2 (19:52):
first of all, we had a lot of people that I could
have chosen from.
You know, I know a lot of whatpeople would consider big name
people.
At first I inquired aboutJatayla Carr Great, and I still
probably get her but God waslike no.
And then Dr Valerie Moore wasanother one, but she wasn't
(20:13):
available.
And then Dr Valerie Moore wasanother one, but she wasn't
available.
I always have Apostle SamanthaBynum and Prophetess Aja Bynum,
so it was a plethora of peoplethat I could pick from, but God
was like oh, a differentdirection, because everybody has
something to say.
And so he put these ladies thathave their own unique style and
they brung it in their ownunique style.
(20:34):
But the pieces of the puzzlefit.
They did, they surely did.
So I had a glimpse of what godwas going to do.
I just didn't know.
You know which piece of puzzlewas going to go here or go there
, but I had a glimpse of what itwas going to do and it turned
out amazing.
Speaker 1 (20:48):
despite what the enemy tried to do, it came out
amazing.
And again I can't thank youenough of having B3U out to get
Core Day 2 and to just be inyour presence.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
And you got a lot to reflect.
You know, go back.
Speaker 1 (21:07):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
You'll miss stuff and you'll be like, oh, oh, oh.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
Yes, it was a whole part that I missed.
I'm going to go back and, likeI said, I'm here for a minute,
so I thought we was havingsomething on Sunday, but I am
going to take, I'm going toreplay all of this and I'm going
to have my altar experiencetomorrow.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
Oh yes, that's where I'm going to get mine too.
I'm going to go back and beable to, because I was walking
around but I kept that recorderon.
I'm going to get what I need.
I'm running, but I'm recordingit so that I can go back and sit
and look and receive it.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
We're going to be doing the same thing.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
The same thing.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
Thank you again, prophetess Moena Tucker, y'all,
my dear friend, my mentor, myheart, hopefully your invite be
through you out again because ifnot, I'm going to invite myself
.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
You're welcome anytime.
You guys follow her, subscribeto her page.
She has a great testimony.
She hasn't scratched thesurface of what she's done and
she know I'm here to walk herthrough it and make sure she can
be the best that she can andsucceed.
So we thank you for comingKingdom Magazine.
(22:22):
Right, yeah, it was.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
Kingdom Magazine.
So look for that, you guys.
Kingdom Magazine, moina Tucker.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
Well, I changed it from Kingdom Magazine.
Now it's going to be calledReal Talk, keeping it real.
Keeping it real.
Yeah, okay, yeah.
So it's going to be a dialoguelike that.
Look at you, okay, all right,that's next on my plate.
See y'all later.
All right, bless you all.
Hello everyone, welcome to Beat For you and I'm
your girl, brie Charles, thehost of the show, and I am so
excited about what we are goingto be running all month long,
and that is the altar experience.
This was an experience like noother.
I truly had a great timeinterviewing some of the guests
(00:32):
at the altar experience.
I want to just thank, right now, pastor Moena Tucker and Jamie
Tucker for inviting me out tothe altar experience, where I
was blessed beyond measure withthe words that was coming out,
so I'm hoping that you as wellhere, my listeners are just as
(00:53):
blessed as I was to hear some ofthe interviews and some of the
entertainment that we will beshowing all month long.
So take a look, enjoy andremember, burn through the pad,
break the cycle and becomeunstoppable.
This is what it's all about.
Check it out.
Well, well, well.
(01:14):
We have Prophetess Moena Tucker, the backbone of the altar
experience and good friendfriend for over 25 years has
invited me out to this amazingexperience, and when I tell
y'all y'all could see, y'allcould see that I have been
(01:36):
overpoured into.
This moment of the hour hasbrought amazing.
The word amazing isn't even theproper word for the experience
that I got here this weekend.
This was a powerful event and Ijust want to say publicly thank
you so much for inviting me outto this.
(01:58):
So, moina, tell my audience alittle bit about yourself.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
Oh gosh, where can you begin with the testimonies?
Um, well, I think it'simportant for me to start off,
because I know you know theheart of what you do and we went
through something similar andlooked over.
Tell a week, we'll be able todo this and do that.
Um, so for me, my started.
I loved reading, but I readthem in a quirky way.
(02:26):
I would go from the back to thefront and when I got to school
they said I had a learningdisability and they put me in
remedial reading.
But I loved to read in whatcase it might be, but because
they labeled me I was in aspecial class.
So I stayed in a special classuntil somebody you'll see when
we're going somebody saw Like no, you are not remedial or
(02:48):
special you're gifted and whatthey were giving me wasn't
challenging, right, and fromthat point on I had to.
Um, I was given her name wasdiane richardson and she kept in
touch with me.
I'm going to be 55, 54.
She just died February.
So she was in my life from age11 up until she passed away
(03:11):
February this year and she wasthe first person to buy me my
first pair of dress shoes,teaching me how to eat in a
restaurant and put me in apoetry class.
So I'm saying that is that Ihad someone to see a diamond in
the rough.
And from that point on, when youtold me I couldn't, I was going
(03:35):
to, just because you told me Icouldn't, right, and it just got
, you know, bolder and bolderwith that Like, come on
challenges.
We went to the military.
She was 30.
I was 28.
And my mom was like you're 2L,you got three kids, you know.
And I'm like, no, I bet I am.
(03:57):
And there were times I wantedto quit, there were times you're
going to want to quit.
But what made me keep going isthe fact that the drill started
Like just quit, you can't do it.
And that motivated me.
Right, because I'm like youdon't get to tell me You're not
my father, you're not God, youdidn't create me, so you don't
get to tell me you're going toquit.
(04:18):
And so I worked harder.
When everybody was sleeping, Iwas running the track.
Faith without works is dead.
I had the faith and I put inthe work.
There it is, and it was becausethe faith and the work together
, things began to manifest.
And so you know my militaryjourney.
(04:42):
I never thought I would be aspeaker, a pastor, none of this.
I just never saw it.
But that's what I love aboutGod he peeks into your future.
He knows what you're going todo, when you're going to do it,
even if you fall off course.
He's always a GPS.
And so he led me to the heartof ministry.
The heart of my ministry iswomen that have been broken.
I know what it feels like to berejected.
(05:04):
I know what it feels like togrow up in a home without a
father.
You know my mom wasn't a beast,but she worked all the time, so
I was taking my older brother.
So you know, I know what itfeels like to be in a room full
of people by yourself, and soGod has taught me you know to be
(05:27):
okay.
Sometimes we're not being okay.
He's taught me how to encouragemyself and, you know, define
the good in people.
And check this out.
Diamonds are deeply rooted inthe earth.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
You know how a diamond gets to the surface?
How A diamond gets to thesurface?
Because it becomes so great, sogrand, that the earth can't
hold it anymore.
And so the earth literallypushes it up to the surface.
Mm-hmm, earth can't hold itanymore.
And so the earth literallypushes it up to the surface.
Because it gets so it irritatesthe earth and the earth is like
you got to go, I can't hold youanymore.
(06:06):
And so it literally, thepressure pushes it up and it
doesn't get its shine until thatfirst air hits it.
Wow, wow.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
Until that first air hits it.
And so a lot of us are justdiamonds in the ground, waiting
for the pressure, waiting forsomebody to discover us, so that
first air can hit us, so we canshine.
So the altar experience hasdone just that for me.
I'm going to speak for me.
You had so amazing paneliststhat came and spoke.
Oh, I wonder what?
What drives you to?
(06:50):
Because it's a lot.
I've seen the work that you hadbehind the scenes.
Behind the scenes, and, justbeing a woman, I know, know your
, your heart is in youreverything.
You give god the glory toeverything you do, and I'm sure
he is what keeps you well, Imean, I don't feel half step and
a half doing it, you know andyou did not um you give your all
(07:14):
to him and he says you'refaithful for few.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
He made you rule over many and I like.
Well, my motivation is I knewwhat it took for me to get to
God.
You couldn't come to me in nothree-piece suit, no St John
with your silk and all that on,because I'd be like girl.
What can you really tell me?
You know what can you relate?
(07:40):
You, dressed in a $100,000 suit, I got a baby in my hip trying
to find money to get pampers.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
So I'm not interested in what you've got to say in
your suit, and so I want toalways be relatable to people,
see them.
That's why I don't dress in alot of fancy stuff, not because
I, you know, don't have the kid,but I want the people to see me
.
You, I don't them to all thisbecause you know, and some
(08:11):
people are beautiful and they donot knock it, but for me it's
the heart of the women.
If the woman in the Bible, theprostitute that washed Jesus'
feet with her tears, if shewalks in here, I'm not going to
look her up and down and be like, oh my God, somebody get this
sprayer.
No, come on, babe, come on, I'mgoing to invite her in.
(08:36):
And that's what the altarexperience is about Seeing the
people, not looking at them.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
Oh, that's good, I just got that.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
That's good.
That was good Seeing the peoplenot looking at them Right.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
Mona, what age did God reveal that this is what he
wanted you to do?
Speaker 2 (08:58):
Now, amazingly, I've been seeing and hearing the
voice of God since I was seven.
I just didn't understand it.
So, because I didn't understandit.
I used to say it was ESPgrowing up, but deja vu.
And it wasn't until I met myspiritual mother, apostle RDC
Smith, and she began to explainmy gift to me and tell me, you
know thatle RDC Smith, and shebegan to explain my gift to me
(09:21):
and tell me, you know that I hada gift from God.
And then I met Mother Nicholsand she finished cultivating my
spiritual father.
So God put mentor and people inmy life to help me understand
what it was that I had been out,and it helped me to be able to
walk into a just like a pair ofred bottoms.
(09:43):
People think that you can walkon all type of terrain in a red
bottoms.
You're not supposed to walk onhard terrain in red bottoms.
You're supposed to walk on soft, smooth material so that the
red doesn't rub off.
So you got to know the shoesthat you're walking in.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
And you have some shoes that you are walking in.
You have been married to mybrother, jamie, for 33 years,
pastoring motherhood army.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
Magazine PR media.
My God Army Magazines PR media.
My God Mona, and, at one pointin time, taking care of my deal,
mom.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
With a woman of your background, which are the things
that you do.
How do you keep it?
Speaker 2 (10:34):
all together.
I'm going to be honest with you.
Sometimes I didn't together.
I'm going to be honest with you, sometimes I didn't.
It took me a while to findbalance, because sometimes I put
my children before me and I wassuffering.
Sometimes I put the churchbefore me and I was suffering,
and so you can't pour from anempty cup and you can't lead on
(10:59):
empty.
And so there was some Sundaysthat I would come and turn and
I'd be like I ain't got a wordfor you and I would get them all
to myself.
I was like I need healing and Ilearned how to get mine.
I learned that I ain't got toget up there and preach.
I ain't got to have amicrophone.
Nope, Let me get myself rightfirst.
Let me get mine so that I canget you help get yours.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
Let me tell you, it's a four letter word that I
learned today and I've heard itnumerous times.
And here you come and you bringin that word right back to
circle and that's rest.
I've heard it now from PastorChristy.
I've heard it from the DeandraRest.
And look, you have to rest.
(11:42):
You have to know when to say no.
No, and it's okay to say no, totake a break, and you're also a
grandmother, a greatgrandmother, can you?
Speaker 2 (11:57):
believe that.
Wow, and a very active one, tim, a very active one.
Just from my grandkids back,wow.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
A great grandmother.
I ain't even hit that yet, ohmy gosh.
So, with all that encouraging,like I say, not everybody knows
their purpose.
Everybody has a story, but noteverybody knows their purpose.
I know I used to be one ofthose people until God showed me
what it is he has for me to doand running these three
(12:25):
businesses that I have been allof this and now out here
speaking to people because Godgave me this word to speak.
It is really hard to maintainall that.
What would you say to somebodywho doesn't know their purpose,
their path, and they're justdefeated because they're tired
(12:48):
of everything that they're goingthrough?
What encouragement?
Speaker 2 (12:53):
Well, I would just say insanity is doing the same
thing over and over again, butgetting the same results, not
getting the different results.
So sometimes you're supposed tobe doing what you're doing but
you're not doing it becauseyou're doing it the wrong way.
And it takes a lot of prayer.
It takes people around you youknow like I'm helping you, it's
a hey of prayer.
It take people around you, youknow like I'm helping you, and
(13:15):
say, hey, brie, do it this way.
It take people pouring into you, sometimes studying, yes, your
craft, watching others that havedone it before you, yes, you
know, using your tools, research, you know.
Study, the bible says study toshow that self-approved.
And um, you know you have to doboth naturally and spiritually.
(13:36):
And so when finding yourpurpose, your purpose, go with
your passion, because I don'tcare what you do, if you don't
have a passion for it, you'llbegin to, you'll become
disgruntled and hate what you do.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
Speaking about passion, I know we had a little
when you had a little hiccupprior to the altar experience.
Yeah, and it was.
Most people would have had thatsituation happen and just blew
up, got defeated, saying youknow what, I'm not doing it,
it's not going to happen.
I mean, you could have done somuch.
(14:13):
When people are faced withthings that could defeat them,
what would you say?
Because I've seen you, but Iwant you to tell them how do you
deal with defeat?
You do all.
You've worked so hard to puttogether this.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
Okay, look, it turns out we gotta pause for the cause
.
Teacher lamar say they becausethey not like us.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
I'm not like them no but I've.
I've watched you come up with achallenge and to where I was
like, oh my god.
And at first you were likedrained, it was like sad.
But I've watched you but I wantyou to tell them, being a woman
, what you're doing and when.
You were like drained and waslike sad.
But I've watched you but I wantyou to tell them, being a woman
, what you're doing and when youwere faced with challenge and
defeat, how do you handle it?
Speaker 2 (15:00):
I have a saying a ponder that I've had for many
years.
I have many ponders, but thisis one of them have your moment,
but don't let your moment haveyou.
Have your moment, it's haveyour moment, it's okay.
The Bible gives you permissionto cry, to grieve and everything
, but don't let it have you.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
That's right.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
You need to have your moment because if you don't, it
packs down and you, sometimesour emotions and what we go
through is like an overpackedsuitcase.
We get to the airport and it's50 pounds.
That one pound costs $100 to$200.
One pound.
So instead I'm packing that onepound and carrying that dead
(15:46):
weight around.
Stop paying the price for stuffyou don't need, stuff that's
not destined to you, and so I'mlearning.
You know, if I'm not in control, I'm not in control.
You know, do the best I can andhave my moment.
Don't let my moment have me.
You know, and it's okay not tobe okay and when I fall, get
(16:08):
back up, dress myself up, try itagain and learn from it.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
You know learn from it, because what?
The whole weekend we've beensaying what I ain't going out
like that.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
We're not going out like that.
We ain't going out like that.
We ain't going out like that.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
Mona, thank you for having B3U out with the altar
experience.
It was truly an overjoy, anoverblessing.
I am wore out out.
I know y'all can hear my voice.
I'm gonna go back to that hotelroom and I'm just gonna flop
out, but thank you so much it'sgonna be us.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
They're gonna think it's a grizzly bear and a family
in there.
It was funny because I don'treally take naps and stuff, but
my cousin, I stopped through mysecond alarm and she came and
she said, mom, I need you to getup, baby.
And I was like, oh Lord, youknow.
So the body's tired and youlearn from it.
And one thing I will say to youis each opportunity, each
(17:08):
setting I'm in, I go back and Ido a recap of what I could do
better.
You know how to improve and youknow it is always about being
better.
You know doing better than itwas last time and take the good
and the bad because they workhand in hand, you know with it.
And, most of all, just keep atyour craft, keep practicing and
(17:32):
invest in you.
You know, have confidence in you.
How do we know basic training,throwing in the barracks a bunch
of females?
They didn't know.
And 25 years later we'll besitting here as adults believers
God knows Full circle.
You know, and that's reallywhat it's about.
(17:53):
Trust the Adults believers Godknows full circle.
You know, and that's reallywhat it's about.
Trust the process and know thatwhen you're going through it,
it's not your final destination.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
And the biggest thing that I speak about is taking
back my power.
That's who I am.
I'm taking back my power,taking my power back from so
many things, so many people thatI've given my power to.
Oh yes, so that is my message,that will be my message for back
from so many things, so manypeople that I've given my power
to.
Oh so that's what my, that ismy message, that will be my
message for at least a year.
It's about taking taking backmy power, and so I know who I am
, and learning what to get restand the Bible says don't cast
(18:25):
your pearl amongst wine, becausethey will turn on you and
trample over them.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
And basically what that mean is stop giving people
the best of you that don'tdeserve you, because they'll
trample over your gift, trampleover your kindness, trample over
you and go on to the nextperson.
That's right.
You have to use the wisdomfirst of all, and you have to be
okay with saying no.
Use your desire and pray aboutit and be like no, at this time
(18:50):
I'm not going in that direction.
Pray about it and be like no,at this time I'm not going in
that direction.
You know and just know, likeyou came here to you know, get
your interviews, to get you knowyour content and stuff.
But Brie also got what Brieneeded.
Oh, yes, I did.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
Yeah, you know, I came here with the mindset like
I'm just coming here to work,you know, to interview Dr.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
Capehart, so she was on that float.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
Oh my God, so I'm going to have to, oh my goodness
, I'm going to have to sharethis story because my focus, I'm
like, oh, I'm coming tointerview Dr Capehart and blah
blah blah, you know, and I'mhaving, you know, trying to
study all the panelists, andblah blah blah, apostle Nichols,
yes, she kicked it off andwhile I'm focusing here, she
(19:37):
came in with the message, likeand just, and I mean it was such
a I've been poured into lessbehind measures.
I mean I'm just, like I said,over, for how did you even pick
that panel out?
Speaker 2 (19:52):
first of all, we had a lot of people that I could
have chosen from.
You know, I know a lot of whatpeople would consider big name
people.
At first I inquired aboutJatayla Carr Great, and I still
probably get her but God waslike no.
And then Dr Valerie Moore wasanother one, but she wasn't
(20:13):
available.
And then Dr Valerie Moore wasanother one, but she wasn't
available.
I always have Apostle SamanthaBynum and Prophetess Aja Bynum,
so it was a plethora of peoplethat I could pick from, but God
was like oh, a differentdirection, because everybody has
something to say.
And so he put these ladies thathave their own unique style and
they brung it in their ownunique style.
(20:34):
But the pieces of the puzzlefit.
They did, they surely did.
So I had a glimpse of what godwas going to do.
I just didn't know.
You know which piece of puzzlewas going to go here or go there
, but I had a glimpse of what itwas going to do and it turned
out amazing.
Speaker 1 (20:48):
despite what the enemy tried to do, it came out
amazing.
And again I can't thank youenough of having B3U out to get
Core Day 2 and to just be inyour presence.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
And you got a lot to reflect.
You know, go back.
Speaker 1 (21:07):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
You'll miss stuff and you'll be like, oh, oh, oh.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
Yes, it was a whole part that I missed.
I'm going to go back and, likeI said, I'm here for a minute,
so I thought we was havingsomething on Sunday, but I am
going to take, I'm going toreplay all of this and I'm going
to have my altar experiencetomorrow.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
Oh yes, that's where I'm going to get mine too.
I'm going to go back and beable to, because I was walking
around but I kept that recorderon.
I'm going to get what I need.
I'm running, but I'm recordingit so that I can go back and sit
and look and receive it.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
We're going to be doing the same thing.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
The same thing.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
Thank you again, prophetess Moena Tucker, y'all,
my dear friend, my mentor, myheart, hopefully your invite be
through you out again because ifnot, I'm going to invite myself
.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
You're welcome anytime.
You guys follow her, subscribeto her page.
She has a great testimony.
She hasn't scratched thesurface of what she's done and
she know I'm here to walk herthrough it and make sure she can
be the best that she can andsucceed.
So we thank you for comingKingdom Magazine.
(22:22):
Right, yeah, it was.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
Kingdom Magazine.
So look for that, you guys.
Kingdom Magazine, moina Tucker.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
Well, I changed it from Kingdom Magazine.
Now it's going to be calledReal Talk, keeping it real.
Keeping it real.
Yeah, okay, yeah.
So it's going to be a dialoguelike that.
Look at you, okay, all right,that's next on my plate.
See y'all later.
All right, bless you all.
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