Change Order Podcast

Solving Hollywood’s pain with vertical fintech.

Ali Javid, CEO and Co-founder of Wrapbook, and his team want to make sure no one gets left waiting.

In this episode of Change Order he joins Jason Shuman to reveal how Wrapbook helps production teams handle payroll and accounting more smoothly and quickly.

On the docket:

• how Wrapbook digitized payroll from end to end 

• why trade wars must factor in America’s soft power in fi...

In a market where Manhattan offices sit empty and $1.5T in real estate debt awaits refinancing, timing is paramount. Ask Scott Rechler—he sold his company at the peak in '07, waited out the crash, then built RXR into a $17 B GAV empire.

In this episode of Change Order, hosted by Jason Shuman, he shares:

• how he built a $6B business— twice

• handling Carl Icahn's hostile takeover bid

• what he learnt from Sam Zell & Danny Meyer

• ...

Meet Ryan Serhant, the CEO of SERHANT, and star of the hit show, "Million Dollar Listing New York” we all love.

From struggling actor to real estate mogul, Ryan’s journey is nothing short of inspiring.

In this episode, he shares:

• How he grew from $9,200 to $2B in sales in 2022, with sights set on $5B in 2024

• The applications of AI in real estate

• How being an actor taught him sales

• The ups and downs of using his TV fame to build t...

In this episode of Change Order, Jason Shuman (General Partner at Primary) sits down with Arthur Levy (Chief Business Officer at Brex) to hear his extraordinary journey, from his venture capital roots to becoming an indispensable operator at Brex.

Arthur shares the pivotal decisions that shaped his path, reveals how to form strategic partnerships, and unpacks the significance of grit and personal connections in the business world.

Le...

Ilir Sela, Founder & CEO of Slice, grew up with pizza in his DNA—his family ran pizzerias in NYC, so he knew the grind inside out.

Watching mom-and-pop pizza shops get left behind, he bootstrapped MyPizza in 2009.

What started with Ilir entering orders in a Starbucks has grown into Slice—a platform now driving $1B+ in GMV for 20,000+ independent pizzerias, saving them $265M.

Primary is proud to have backed Slice from the seed stag...

Not every experienced leader thrives in a startup. Few people understand this better than Kat Cole.

As President & COO of AG1, she’s leading its growth in 60+ countries, driving a global health initiative poised to transform the $6.3 trillion industry.

In conversation with Jason Shuman, Kat unpacks:

- why 90% of pitches are dead on arrival,

- subtle cues that expose a weak founder within minutes and,

- the delicate balance between ...

Markets can stay irrational longer than you can remain solvent.

If you’re a VC, you’ve likely lived through this.

Both public and private markets change in a flash, but human nature stays the same.

Amidst this, an anti-VC investor emerges.

Meet James O’Shaughnessy, Founder and CEO of O'Shaughnessy Ventures LLC.

Previously, James founded and chaired OSAM, an asset management firm, and served as Director of Systematic Equity at Bear Stear...

44 million American households pay rent every month.

What incentive do they have, apart from the obvious deterrent of being homeless?

Zilch. Nada.

Our guest, Ankur Jain, and his team are switching things up.

Born to immigrant parents, he sold his company to Tinder, and became VP of Product.

Today, he spearheads Bilt Rewards and Kairos.

Ankur shares how missing the cut for his basketball team became his first business deal, his mission t...

Are there too many baby boomer businesses up for grabs? Codie Sanchez thinks so.

With 60% of U.S. small businesses owned by baby boomers, she believes the real risk is that no one steps up to buy them.

For Codie, what began as a quiet side hustle at Goldman Sachs has grown into an extensive portfolio of small businesses—the kind private equity ignores but, as she insists, you should capitalize on.

In this episode of Change Order with ...