December 3, 2024 • 33 mins
In this episode, Brian and John engage in a candid conversation about their experiences as gay men, touching on themes of personal trauma, the importance of coming out, and the misconceptions surrounding the LGBTQ community. They share personal stories of abuse and healing, discuss generational differences in attitudes towards sexuality, and debunk common myths about being gay. The conversation also highlights the significance of representation in sports and media, and the use of humor as a coping mechanism. The episode concludes with trivia and light-hearted banter, emphasizing the importance of community and support.
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Takeaways: Personal stories of trauma can help others feel less alone. Coming out can be a freeing experience for many individuals. There are many myths about being gay that need to be addressed. Representation in sports and media is crucial for LGBTQ visibility. Humor can be an effective coping mechanism for dealing with trauma. Engaging in open conversations about sexuality can normalize it for others. The importance of community support for those coming out. Trivia can be a fun way to engage with LGBTQ culture.
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(00:00):
Hello, gay men. How are we doing?
(00:04):
Hello, John. How are you?
Ryan, welcome to Coming Inside.
Thank you. I've been coming from the inside out for well all of my life.
So welcome all of you listeners. We're so glad.
And thank you for all of you listeners.
Thank you for writing into us.
Well, this is what episode I'm in.
(00:26):
So we have... This will be episode 32 plus our trailer.
We've had, as of today, we've had over 18,000 downloads.
Really? Yeah.
And again, that's only from three sources that you're getting.
I only have access to three sources. I don't have it.
We have access to what?
(00:46):
We have access...
Access to YouTube.
We have access to our page.
Our... RSSP page.
Our clients coming inside out.
And then Apple.
Apple. Those are the three that we track.
But we have other Spotify and Apple's other...
No, I will tell you that we're on Spotify,
(01:07):
but then we're also on Spotify for podcasters.
Spotify has a green dot.
Yeah, Spotify has a purple dot.
They have two different apps.
So we are newly on Spotify for podcasters.
And something I was going to share with you as of this...
As of two weeks ago, we're on Blue Sky,
which there's a lot of people that are upset with Elon Musk
(01:30):
that are looking to leave X.
Really?
And Blue Sky, you can look it up.
Blue Sky Media, I downloaded the app
and I uploaded our content on there.
So now we're on...
Are we on Truce Media?
Or Truce WaterStock?
Oh, sure.
Truce.
Oh, sure.
So I've never been on that.
I...
Are you without...
(01:50):
Other people are, yes, I do.
Other people, what was some true social app?
This is a joke.
It was just a dumb joke.
I have no idea.
I have no idea.
I want to help you.
So I thought we would start with a letter
from one of our listeners.
Okay.
I took one off.
You want to go ahead and read that.
(02:11):
We never introduced our names today.
I said, hey, John, you said, hey, Brian.
Hi.
I'm Brian Janes.
I'm John Duerler.
Welcome.
Welcome.
Welcome.
So we have this letter.
I did it tonight.
It's a nice letter for that kind of...
Robbiddle.
Would you like to read?
That's important.
Talking about one of our listeners was sexually abused.
(02:32):
And it goes on to say, being sexually abused by an older kid
and two male teachers didn't help neither to connect.
And then I just highlighted this and then jumped right down.
So yeah, it took a while for me to figure it out.
It's all right, I guess, but I would have loved being my true self
(02:55):
from the beginning.
So I could have discovered what it is to really love
and be loved by someone without the fear of being rejected
because I was not normal.
So your show is all about helping people and telling them
that they are not alone and above all that they are normal
(03:15):
and that it's okay to be who they are.
And this is what matters the most.
Thanks again.
What a great podcast.
Okay, so I count on not getting this a little bit only
because I responded to him in his response to me.
He shared that he was sexually abused as a child of a...
And you know, you shared also, I thought that this was important.
(03:37):
When you shared about your sexual abuse,
you shared that you didn't know any different
and that it felt good for me held in hugged.
I shared that again because I think this is kind of how he was at.
There was shame in first thing.
There's not any shame.
And then first, thank you for listening for writing it.
(03:57):
I really appreciate it.
I'm sorry you went through that.
I did.
There was a guy down the street.
He was older than me.
In order for me to be into his town,
but I was yelling and do certain things.
And I think she was maybe three years older, two years older.
Not sure.
But yeah, it's interesting because he knew what to do.
(04:20):
And I'm wondering if he was his dad, you know?
And so anyway, he fingered me and he put his finger
and then he played with my chin and tail.
And you know, it was very odd, however,
but at the end he would hope.
(04:41):
And so I just lay there huddled,
which I was not getting that at all.
And so I went back to the cuddles.
Yes, I was hoping I was blessed for the cuddles,
but Nard had to get his cuddles and had to get his finger
(05:03):
and my name is written in his play.
And you know, I was nowhere.
My nuts had not dropped.
So I was nowhere coming.
And but yeah.
And so, you know, I was like, well, why did I like it?
But you know, now that I'm an adult and thinking,
I don't know.
Because I know a lot of people want to block this stuff.
(05:24):
I don't know.
It's for me.
It was.
It was being hell.
That's true.
And so I'm sorry, you know, this happened to you.
You know, to any.
But, you know, and I hated him for that.
But then again, I started thinking again,
being an adult, talking about having to passion.
(05:44):
And I was just wondering if his old, his, his own stuff.
And I'm wondering if his own did that to him.
And that's where he learned it.
Because you have to, I'm sure you have to.
Is that learned behavior?
Is it?
Well, it was I'm not so I should I introduce you.
I don't know.
I don't know, you would think that he saw it or learned it.
(06:07):
It's a new one.
And unfortunately, well, and the other part of me being
scarred with that is that, you know, I wanted to be part of
the club.
I wanted to be part of the membership.
So I didn't know that was part of it.
So when I joined the country club here in Los Angeles,
I just went in there with my application to the board.
Then I pulled my pants down and I was waiting for the law
(06:29):
to finger me and go and mark the club.
No, John, you can pull your pants up.
You don't need to be this grip of the club golf ball,
string and phenyl beads to this ball.
You turned it to me and the law.
All right, my softball club, but just graduated.
So I was scarred for any clubs that I had to join.
(06:53):
Pull my pants down.
All right, how about it?
I'll join your club.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
So, you know what I do?
I make fun of it because that's how I process shit.
You know, and it is, I like to make jokes about it
because it helps.
It just helps.
It just helps.
Yeah.
And I don't mean to belittle anybody else that's gone
through it, but that's how I told through it.
(07:15):
You talk about it and you tend to be able to really
process it out and not live in the guilt of,
oh my God, I enjoyed that.
You figured out why you enjoyed it.
You know, that's true.
And I did.
I figured that out.
No therapist figured that out.
However, the one that we're going to get out,
(07:35):
I want to bring her on our show.
She's amazing.
But when I was telling her about Star Wars,
she said that and she underscored that my theory was good.
Was right on.
Your theory was good.
Well, that's good to hear.
It was.
So yeah, I mean, we're all, I mean,
(07:56):
it's in the way you ever was.
I wasn't.
I had no memory.
I have like, I wondered, I questioned it,
but I had no memory of it.
And I know I don't believe I was.
Well, listen, there's any,
only any listener that's out there that was and maybe
have not ever talked.
You know, just, I guess my only advice is get someone
(08:19):
you trust and stop them if you need to talk about it.
Talk about it.
For now, which is interesting.
I should raise your suit.
You're just lazy.
You know how we evolve as a society and how different,
how different life was back in the 1950s to 1940s.
(08:40):
I mean, my grandma.
He was, I mean, it's next to shit, you know, and, and I mean,
I don't know what I'm giving to that.
But that generation, holy shit, man,
they're crazy motherfuckers.
They really want, they really want me.
(09:02):
You know, I was a crazy motherfuckers today.
I'm not a bitch motherfuckers today,
but I know I should talk about this, you know,
because this generation of people is like,
how different are we in our fees than our 16 year olds
or 20 year olds that they look at us like, you just have them.
Again, it just comes all the way back to here we are talking
about helping out because a lot of us has not,
(09:22):
have not come out in our 30s, 40s and 50s.
But at 18 or 20, like your son, he's free and fluid to do as he wants
and dress, you know, how he wants.
I just love seeing that.
And that was a lot of the kids that were at,
I said, kids, young people at the Palm Springs Pride.
And it was so nice to see all those young, young out
(09:46):
and proud in his talent.
It's really not nothing for them, but it's just no big.
And I just think that we're, you know,
I love that we're doing this.
I'm so glad that you came to me and said,
hey, I want to do this because there's so many as we can.
There's so many out there up to us.
And again, you know, we talk about, you know,
getting married, but you know,
(10:08):
we are here for anyone wanting to come out and tell your story.
And you know, we're open to that.
We've had some, some lesbians.
There's a lesbian.
Is that right? We have.
Yeah, we have.
We have the high-to-life spans.
By the way, I need one truck.
Work, dog, eat your truck.
Look at the legs.
Come on over and help.
Help a big dad with your truck.
(10:29):
Help a big daddy with my truck.
What you're talking about falls in line with what I wrote here
because I came across a post on social media
where a man was asking why men felt it was necessary.
You're done.
I'm out.
It posted that.
Why, why, why, why do you feel like it's necessary?
And I don't respond to a lot of posts, but I wrote,
(10:50):
I found it to be incredibly freeing when I came out.
My journey and life had me living a closet lifestyle
until I was 50.
I wanted to normalize being gay for all of the closet men
and homophobic people out there.
I want to normalize it.
I'm a fairly normal person or I'm a businessman.
(11:11):
I'm a father.
I'm a gay person and I wrote down, I went online
and I typed in myths about being gay.
And you have those also.
Okay.
I thought we would read the top four myths about
people have about being gay on this first big words number eight.
(11:35):
Shit.
I got it.
Thanks for.
Okay.
Myths about gay men.
Number one.
Gay men's molest children.
What did I say when I came out to my wife?
And yet that was the first question.
Well, she thought about it.
She had to process it, of course.
And then she called me back two hours later.
(11:55):
You did you.
Did you.
What are sons?
What the fuck are I now?
How could you answer me?
That's the craziest fucking thing, but that's what people think.
That's what some people think.
That's what some people think when they find out that somebody's gay or they're worried that somebody's gay.
Is that they're gonna molest somebody's children?
(12:16):
Right.
Right.
Number two.
Same sex parents cause harm to their children.
What kind of just, you know, parents, it's you talk about this.
I think you're where your son goes to school.
There's a lot of sex.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's very normal.
Parents can be very loving, can be very kind of shit.
(12:38):
Very kind of shit.
Be very compassionate.
Yeah.
A lot of times there can be a better parent than...
Well, of course.
You stand out of your banner.
Yes.
Same sex partners.
It does not harm the child.
Check to fathers or check to mothers.
Okay.
Number three.
You're in a real...
Yeah.
Go ahead.
People become...
People become homosexual because they were sexually abused as children or there was a deficiency in sexual modeling by their parents.
(13:06):
You did choose to be gay?
I didn't choose to be gay.
Why are you not my gay?
I didn't.
What are you talking about?
I raised a police gayness away from my...
Pray did you rape?
Did you go to that camp with a bunch of...
No, I probably would have, but no I didn't, but I prayed to not be gay.
Did you?
I did.
No, I thought it was it.
I thought something was wrong with me.
(13:27):
I was like, what is this?
What is this?
I was so naive.
But I literally thought I was gonna grow up.
At some point in my life, I was just a...
Boom attract to men.
It was when I got a girlfriend.
It was when I got married.
It's when I had kids.
It's when I got a better job.
(13:48):
But it was gonna happen in a...
Well, that brings it right into the thing.
Yeah, being gay is a choice.
No one is more...
And then number nine...
So number nine on our list.
If anybody out there is a sports enthusiast, because I was looking up the Tyson and...
(14:10):
Jake also didn't want to ever change.
Well, yeah, I watched the fight.
What a disappointment.
I mean, I was surprised I had it on Tyson to win.
I hear it was all great. I think he would have won.
Well, you've been sensing...
Well, it is this one that I, in my personal opinion, it was a fixed fight from day one.
Well, they both got what, 20 million?
(14:32):
Well, no. Is it Jake?
All or Paul J.
Jake's J-A-A-A-A.
He got $47 million and Tyson got $27 million.
What? Yeah.
Got $40 million for that fight.
So I was looking at that fight and I came across this...
You called it out sports.com?
Out sports.com.
It's a gay... It highlights all the gay athletes, all the headlines.
(14:54):
Well, it's an outstirace.
Remember we talked about Ralph Schumacher, the F1 Formula 1 driver, is coming out.
Story was on there, but it has something great to the first...
So when I was a kid, we used to watch the WWF, right?
Yeah.
World Wrestling Entertainment, WWE is a...
Oh, I don't know.
(15:16):
I think so. So the first out-WWE signed wrestler is out in 2024.
I don't know if it's wrestling anymore, but there's a lot of...
If you're like sports...
Out sports.com.
Well, I saw a ball soccer baseball. I had it in my head, but it talks about...
Well, it speaks to sports. You ain't a scary and rugby and run walks.
(15:40):
It's a fudge.
Whenever you have them, they'll lay on the sides.
So I told you about the North-Last episode I talked about Gladiator.
By the way, it's a great movie. Go see it.
I was impressed with it and I was not let down.
Because I think it's one of the greatest...
It's true.
(16:02):
Gator, we tell you...
It was the first Gladiator game.
Look, they all had some makeup and little...
You know, stressing, stressing going on.
But the makeup they had on Gladiator 2 for all these dudes, it was like...
Wow, they are really... Because, look, then...
Which is all in...
(16:24):
Rollin' time, you know, 380 or so or something like that.
Anyway, you know, with the costumes, you know, and...
But then they had the emporers.
Now, I don't want to get into that...
The story itself, but there's two emporers, two brothers.
My God, they...
They look like a dorm from B Witch.
(16:46):
And they're all so little as you guessed.
But with all the makeup, and Dora has so much makeup on.
These guys had so much makeup on.
You know, so it was...
You know what? I was like...
Honestly, when I was sitting there watching this movie, and I'm sitting there watching...
You know, because they have their court and they have all their sex people hanging around.
(17:07):
Then women doesn't...
Just didn't have it.
I mean, it was...
I guess...
It was fine.
You could have happened. You could have done without two men to have sex.
Nothing.
And it wasn't an issue.
But they had women too?
Or they had a wife or what?
(17:28):
Really? Just...
It's kind of crazy how we are...
You know, we've progressed it on generally.
We all have a little beer.
I think there's such fear as time and the play that we've had to like...
Tighten everything up and troll whatever we're doing because...
Ridley Scott did a good job. I loved the movie.
I love you.
(17:49):
Don highly recommends...
I give it... I give it... I give it...
Two penises up.
Two pounds and...
What do you like?
In the stink?
I'll stink in the pink.
How does that go?
The stink in the pink?
Shoo in the pink and one in the stink.
Is that for women? Is that women?
(18:11):
Wasn't that what they used to say?
I'm not heard that way.
Well, I guess we're gonna say...
I guess for a man it's just all in the stink.
It's all in the stink?
Why could it be in the pink?
In the badge and holding the balls of the rich?
Oh, I still haven't done the...
(18:32):
I still haven't given myself a prostate and a subject.
If you listened to the prior episode, what was it?
You're gonna be taking a little shower.
You're right, man.
What you have to hear is...
Tenile gifts.
Yeah?
Um...
Hey, if any of you listeners have tried...
Please try it.
It lends...
Coming inside out at gmail.com
(18:55):
I'd love to hear if you did it after listening to our episode.
I stopped trying to...
I did it at a salon.
I graduated.
I bought a cop ring.
I told you.
Yes.
Yeah, that was...
You thought for years?
Yeah.
Anyways, listen.
I thought we'd do a little trivia time.
(19:16):
John, how many of us...
I mean, try getting anything right, Amber.
You two get stuff right.
You know what?
I mean, it's all fun stuff.
Which you...
You don't need to break out a calculator.
Go to Johnny and...
Gave three blowjobs and...
Well...
You don't need to calculate.
This is easy stuff for you.
(19:37):
Alright.
Here we go.
Well, I was gonna say, you're very dirty.
Am I?
You are.
Am I?
No, no, it's...
I think I've worked up since Tom Springs.
Yeah, I'm a little bit of a sly.
I don't mean to know some bad things.
Could be a bad thing.
That's alright.
I'll be dirty.
I'll be dirty, John.
Go ahead.
Um...
(19:58):
What year was the Grinder app release?
2000.
2000.
It was.
You're right.
The Grinder app was released in 2009, March of 2009.
Included on my son's birthday, March 25th.
(20:20):
What year was the Scruff...
Uh,
Included after that?
Uh...
Did I think...
Think I must have been serious that Grinder was first?
And it's been a lot of follow-up to that, so I'm just gonna guess 2000.
Uh, that's Grinder, I would say, 12.
(20:43):
2010.
That's the name year later.
Yeah, because they all see that and care they're gonna do their version.
What, it doesn't?
Grinder and Scruff are a lot of good Shagrass singers like Manhunt, Leroy.
But are those good?
Adam and Adam or whatever.
I don't do any of them.
And then, well, then Sniffy's is not a good...
Sniffy's is a web page.
Yeah.
(21:04):
It was double list.
What?
Double?
The word double?
And then LIST double list?
It took over for, um...
What do you call that?
Um...
What was the quiz list?
Double list took over for Craigslist.
Oh, and it's all...
Oh, it's a double list?
That's all that is out of the math?
No, no, it's on the internet.
(21:25):
You type in double list, www.doublelist.com, or whatever like that.
And it takes to a site...
There's Growler.
Growler, do you think that I'd growler?
What?
I turned that one off, but I still...
Growler and then Scruff, Tender...
I don't do it.
Daddy, how about it?
Oh.
Good.
Alright.
Alright.
(21:46):
So Grindr is a publicly traded company.
It is?
Yes.
How much is it?
About $42 a share.
Oh, I'd like to...
You know what?
I want to know what that's about.
Can we...
Can we...
It came out January 30th of 5th.
At $14.
At $14 a share.
Yeah.
So it came out.
Okay, so let's put that...
(22:07):
Oh, hold on.
So, okay, so where do you want to start with?
Oh, so you're saying Grindr is a public traded...
Grindr's public traded.
Currently, when I did this research, it said...
$42 a share.
Alright, so to the hell...
It came out at $14.52, and that was $2,000 a day.
So they were...
They were running for six years before they came out to the...
(22:29):
In 14?
I mean, maybe in the $42.
That's...
That's $32.
That's pretty good.
I don't know.
I was losing my account.
So my question...
That's my question, because Grindr is a publicly traded company.
It is?
Scruff?
It is a publicly traded company?
I don't know.
Well, I'm just fooling you.
Okay, Scruff was the one that came out in 2010.
I was in the...
(22:50):
I wasn't in the...
No.
It is not.
Alright.
Who has more users as of September of 23?
Grindr or Scruff?
Grindr.
Scruff does.
Grindr has approximately 13.5 million users, whereas Scruff has over 15 million.
(23:12):
Scruff is a...
Did I cut out?
Yeah.
No.
Away in your head, Tomes.
Why have you been here?
I said Grindr.
Grindr.
13.5 million users, as Scruff has over 15 million users.
And what are...
This is a...
Yeah.
This is...
I'm doing pretty good by the...
(23:33):
You are.
You are.
You've got a couple.
So in 2020, which on penis size...
Yeah.
The average length of an erect penis is all along.
Five and a half.
How'd you know that?
Well, see, I have to fold mine in half to be five and a half.
And I was talking about it to Pride and I said, yeah, when I fold mine in a half, it's five and a half.
(23:58):
You know, that's the average penis.
Oh, there it is.
It is.
Like, yeah, five and a half.
I thought someone came up to me and said, my God, John, your penis is twice the size of the average size penis.
Yeah, that's what...
Well, he said that when I was in the...
Oh, this feels like it's twice the size of the average size penis.
I might be too nasty for you.
No, I don't.
(24:19):
It's just that I...
I think it's all right.
All right.
Don't move here.
What state has the lowest LGBTQ population?
Well, okay, I watched some...
I would probably be the least populated city in the world.
Really?
(24:40):
I'm sure you can go back to some bad case states that are very small, but...
I'm a population...
So you're on the ocean repeat the question.
Okay, what state has the lowest LGBTQ population?
It's always those two.
And they're all over the...
Um...
Let's say you saw the two of us.
No, Dakota, you were on...
(25:02):
Sit down, sit down, sit down.
Look and cheat at these.
Did we talk about that?
Are you sure?
Positive.
Lessoners, I've given you a lot of...
I think we're on the average going, so if we did talk about...
Let me know if I'm...
Yeah, write in and let me know if I was...
Oh, it's North Dakota, huh?
North Dakota.
Lowest population of gay people.
All right.
Well, that...
(25:23):
How's it going to be?
How does it do this, sir?
Give me...
Oh, big...
Big, please just save me.
Just offer the stop bar to see if I could get...
Right, he has a dick in his mouth.
Yeah, John, these was...
This is good.
It gives me...
One of the top five...
Biggest US states in 2024.
(25:45):
Oh, top five.
One of the top five.
You have 50 to choose from.
California.
California is number five with 5.3% of the population used to be gay.
We did this, but we didn't know.
No.
We did some...
Did this order?
Yeah.
Okay.
(26:06):
So we got slouts.
Okay, so I barely made that.
But let's go East.
Let's go Boston.
No, Massachusetts.
Look at your going in...
You're going in reverse order because Massachusetts is number four with 5.4% of the population.
So we got Massachusetts.
This four, California's five.
Three would be...
I'm not going to listen to this.
(26:28):
So that...
No, Illinois is not in the store.
But I will give you number three, which is Nevada.
Half a percent.
Because they left California.
They did.
They left California and went on over to Nevada.
They couldn't know the same language.
That's three.
Okay, I'm thinking.
So two, Arizona.
(26:49):
Oregon.
Oregon.
5.6%.
Oh my God.
No, I know what you meant now.
I didn't know what you...
Now I know.
Then, John, the exodus of California.
Because a lot of people went to Oregon, Washington.
Yeah, and this is a 2024 survey.
So, you know, a lot of people left California drinking.
Wow, a lot of people went...
Number one.
(27:10):
Number one most appealing to the state is...
Drumroll, please.
Well, but it's not over.
Tell us.
Texas has a whorehouse in New York.
It's a Texas home.
It's Washington, D.C. with 8% of the population.
Wait, the District of Columbia?
(27:31):
I should...
No, no, the...
Wait, wait, wait.
And how many are...
percentage?
5%.
The 9.8% of the population.
What's the population of D.C.?
Let's look it up.
Let's look it up right now.
So the population for Washington, D.C. is 5.5 million people.
That's a lot of people.
(27:53):
Remember that?
Because it's not that big.
15% was 9%?
Yeah, 9%.
That's a place to go, John.
That's 460,000.
Is that 450,000?
Plus, yeah.
Yeah, well, yeah.
Almost a half, almost a half.
See, I've always heard that 10% of the population's dead.
I mean, if you guys were all...
(28:14):
Yes.
And that's heard that for a long, long time.
And what do we have?
We have 300 million people in the United States
and 10% of the population's closet.
No, I don't know that.
I just made that up.
So I have no idea.
Yeah.
But that's a...
You bring up a good point here.
So if 10% is 30...
(28:38):
In the...
But I think you are on to something.
I would say 10%...
Another 10% or at least 5% are in the closet.
I would say more than 10% are in the closet.
I would too.
You know what?
You're right.
You're right.
I think there's at least a third.
(28:59):
Would you say a third?
Which would be 100 million?
No.
You know what?
No, but I...
That's plausible.
That's all right.
It's plausible.
It would be...
A lot of...
Some things get a little...
Things are just fluid.
Yes.
And, you know, when you heard this 10% of people are getting the populated area,
(29:20):
these are some old stats from back when...
There are not a ton of new stats out there.
I think the last populace...
Is it called the populace?
What is that poll?
I'm sure you have a poll that's called...
Anyways, it was a 2020 poll.
So there's not a ton of information.
I just can't believe how much is in the water.
(29:42):
What, 8 billion?
Is it 8 billion?
Look at that.
Look at that.
Look at that.
Look at that.
Look at that.
8.2 billion.
Well, wait, I did skip...
My guess was 8.
Oh, I thought you said 8.
No, you said 8.
I said 8.
I guessed 8.
I thought it said 9.
You are on it.
Yes, you are.
Oh, yeah.
I saw it.
(30:03):
I was thinking Spray Cal, 18 billion.
You're thinking populated.
8.8.
8.1.
2 billion.
And the fastest with this were dogeography.
You know, India is just...
We're dangerous tonight because we have a laptop.
We have a lot of stuff.
We're going to research and shit.
So, have you heard about...
(30:24):
I'm going to bounce off of this population thing for a minute.
Have you heard of Blue Sky?
No, I have not.
I've not.
So, I guess the people that were doing work with Twitter,
yeah, when it was Twitter, were doing work through this company called Blue Sky,
but Elon must have fired that division.
Okay.
So, this division had some of the workings, the framework for this social media platform
(30:50):
that has been out, I guess for a while, but it really has taken off since Elon must did something
that missed a bunch of people off.
And this is the lot of people that are not strong,
and that a lot of the gay community is moving over to Blue Sky.
I was never into Twitter.
So, that's why I don't...
I don't understand Twitter.
(31:11):
I understand Twitter. I only opened a Twitter account
so that we could put our podcast on there, but I don't know if I'd see them.
Yeah.
Are you guys anything else first?
Are you going to sing us out a holiday...
A holiday dinner?
Let's see.
I like this one.
But just the fall on your knees part of this is the best part, right?
(31:49):
You know, we all have to fall on knees sometime.
Well, thank you so much for listening.
Hope you have a wonderful holiday.
Thank you, guys.
Thank you, Brian.
We post every Tuesday, so we upload podcasts every Tuesday morning.
Follow us on either Apple's Spotify...
(32:11):
On PoliceFollow and have a wonderful holiday and safe travels.
Thank you.
Thank you.
I just need to...
You look like so buying somebody.
I would like that.
Well, so if I said she's wearing a green shirt, that's right.
Sure.
(32:32):
Buying anybody will make no sense.
You're mad at first, aren't you?
Well, I'm not mad.
I have not as of today.
And when did I open that fricking...
I opened the grind around when I deleted it.
Then six months later I opened it, then I deleted it, then I opened it, then I deleted it.
(32:55):
I did the same thing with the other one.
What's your type?
I don't know.
I'm a young person.
And somebody that was there going to get them in the filter room.
Filtering to do.
From four minutes to six and five?
I do.
I have that on my phone.
I filter it by...
By what?
By my filter.
By what is your filter?
(33:16):
It's...
You don't want...
You don't want seven.
You wouldn't...
So you're fifty-seven.
You wouldn't want to be with a man that was sixty.
No.
Who's the man that was sixty?
No.
I...
No.
Thanks a lot.
Hello, gay men. How are we doing?
(00:04):
Hello, John. How are you?
Ryan, welcome to Coming Inside.
Thank you. I've been coming from the inside out for well all of my life.
So welcome all of you listeners. We're so glad.
And thank you for all of you listeners.
Thank you for writing into us.
Well, this is what episode I'm in.
(00:26):
So we have... This will be episode 32 plus our trailer.
We've had, as of today, we've had over 18,000 downloads.
Really? Yeah.
And again, that's only from three sources that you're getting.
I only have access to three sources. I don't have it.
We have access to what?
(00:46):
We have access...
Access to YouTube.
We have access to our page.
Our... RSSP page.
Our clients coming inside out.
And then Apple.
Apple. Those are the three that we track.
But we have other Spotify and Apple's other...
No, I will tell you that we're on Spotify,
(01:07):
but then we're also on Spotify for podcasters.
Spotify has a green dot.
Yeah, Spotify has a purple dot.
They have two different apps.
So we are newly on Spotify for podcasters.
And something I was going to share with you as of this...
As of two weeks ago, we're on Blue Sky,
which there's a lot of people that are upset with Elon Musk
(01:30):
that are looking to leave X.
Really?
And Blue Sky, you can look it up.
Blue Sky Media, I downloaded the app
and I uploaded our content on there.
So now we're on...
Are we on Truce Media?
Or Truce WaterStock?
Oh, sure.
Truce.
Oh, sure.
So I've never been on that.
I...
Are you without...
(01:50):
Other people are, yes, I do.
Other people, what was some true social app?
This is a joke.
It was just a dumb joke.
I have no idea.
I have no idea.
I want to help you.
So I thought we would start with a letter
from one of our listeners.
Okay.
I took one off.
You want to go ahead and read that.
(02:11):
We never introduced our names today.
I said, hey, John, you said, hey, Brian.
Hi.
I'm Brian Janes.
I'm John Duerler.
Welcome.
Welcome.
Welcome.
So we have this letter.
I did it tonight.
It's a nice letter for that kind of...
Robbiddle.
Would you like to read?
That's important.
Talking about one of our listeners was sexually abused.
(02:32):
And it goes on to say, being sexually abused by an older kid
and two male teachers didn't help neither to connect.
And then I just highlighted this and then jumped right down.
So yeah, it took a while for me to figure it out.
It's all right, I guess, but I would have loved being my true self
(02:55):
from the beginning.
So I could have discovered what it is to really love
and be loved by someone without the fear of being rejected
because I was not normal.
So your show is all about helping people and telling them
that they are not alone and above all that they are normal
(03:15):
and that it's okay to be who they are.
And this is what matters the most.
Thanks again.
What a great podcast.
Okay, so I count on not getting this a little bit only
because I responded to him in his response to me.
He shared that he was sexually abused as a child of a...
And you know, you shared also, I thought that this was important.
(03:37):
When you shared about your sexual abuse,
you shared that you didn't know any different
and that it felt good for me held in hugged.
I shared that again because I think this is kind of how he was at.
There was shame in first thing.
There's not any shame.
And then first, thank you for listening for writing it.
(03:57):
I really appreciate it.
I'm sorry you went through that.
I did.
There was a guy down the street.
He was older than me.
In order for me to be into his town,
but I was yelling and do certain things.
And I think she was maybe three years older, two years older.
Not sure.
But yeah, it's interesting because he knew what to do.
(04:20):
And I'm wondering if he was his dad, you know?
And so anyway, he fingered me and he put his finger
and then he played with my chin and tail.
And you know, it was very odd, however,
but at the end he would hope.
(04:41):
And so I just lay there huddled,
which I was not getting that at all.
And so I went back to the cuddles.
Yes, I was hoping I was blessed for the cuddles,
but Nard had to get his cuddles and had to get his finger
(05:03):
and my name is written in his play.
And you know, I was nowhere.
My nuts had not dropped.
So I was nowhere coming.
And but yeah.
And so, you know, I was like, well, why did I like it?
But you know, now that I'm an adult and thinking,
I don't know.
Because I know a lot of people want to block this stuff.
(05:24):
I don't know.
It's for me.
It was.
It was being hell.
That's true.
And so I'm sorry, you know, this happened to you.
You know, to any.
But, you know, and I hated him for that.
But then again, I started thinking again,
being an adult, talking about having to passion.
(05:44):
And I was just wondering if his old, his, his own stuff.
And I'm wondering if his own did that to him.
And that's where he learned it.
Because you have to, I'm sure you have to.
Is that learned behavior?
Is it?
Well, it was I'm not so I should I introduce you.
I don't know.
I don't know, you would think that he saw it or learned it.
(06:07):
It's a new one.
And unfortunately, well, and the other part of me being
scarred with that is that, you know, I wanted to be part of
the club.
I wanted to be part of the membership.
So I didn't know that was part of it.
So when I joined the country club here in Los Angeles,
I just went in there with my application to the board.
Then I pulled my pants down and I was waiting for the law
(06:29):
to finger me and go and mark the club.
No, John, you can pull your pants up.
You don't need to be this grip of the club golf ball,
string and phenyl beads to this ball.
You turned it to me and the law.
All right, my softball club, but just graduated.
So I was scarred for any clubs that I had to join.
(06:53):
Pull my pants down.
All right, how about it?
I'll join your club.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
So, you know what I do?
I make fun of it because that's how I process shit.
You know, and it is, I like to make jokes about it
because it helps.
It just helps.
It just helps.
Yeah.
And I don't mean to belittle anybody else that's gone
through it, but that's how I told through it.
(07:15):
You talk about it and you tend to be able to really
process it out and not live in the guilt of,
oh my God, I enjoyed that.
You figured out why you enjoyed it.
You know, that's true.
And I did.
I figured that out.
No therapist figured that out.
However, the one that we're going to get out,
(07:35):
I want to bring her on our show.
She's amazing.
But when I was telling her about Star Wars,
she said that and she underscored that my theory was good.
Was right on.
Your theory was good.
Well, that's good to hear.
It was.
So yeah, I mean, we're all, I mean,
(07:56):
it's in the way you ever was.
I wasn't.
I had no memory.
I have like, I wondered, I questioned it,
but I had no memory of it.
And I know I don't believe I was.
Well, listen, there's any,
only any listener that's out there that was and maybe
have not ever talked.
You know, just, I guess my only advice is get someone
(08:19):
you trust and stop them if you need to talk about it.
Talk about it.
For now, which is interesting.
I should raise your suit.
You're just lazy.
You know how we evolve as a society and how different,
how different life was back in the 1950s to 1940s.
(08:40):
I mean, my grandma.
He was, I mean, it's next to shit, you know, and, and I mean,
I don't know what I'm giving to that.
But that generation, holy shit, man,
they're crazy motherfuckers.
They really want, they really want me.
(09:02):
You know, I was a crazy motherfuckers today.
I'm not a bitch motherfuckers today,
but I know I should talk about this, you know,
because this generation of people is like,
how different are we in our fees than our 16 year olds
or 20 year olds that they look at us like, you just have them.
Again, it just comes all the way back to here we are talking
about helping out because a lot of us has not,
(09:22):
have not come out in our 30s, 40s and 50s.
But at 18 or 20, like your son, he's free and fluid to do as he wants
and dress, you know, how he wants.
I just love seeing that.
And that was a lot of the kids that were at,
I said, kids, young people at the Palm Springs Pride.
And it was so nice to see all those young, young out
(09:46):
and proud in his talent.
It's really not nothing for them, but it's just no big.
And I just think that we're, you know,
I love that we're doing this.
I'm so glad that you came to me and said,
hey, I want to do this because there's so many as we can.
There's so many out there up to us.
And again, you know, we talk about, you know,
getting married, but you know,
(10:08):
we are here for anyone wanting to come out and tell your story.
And you know, we're open to that.
We've had some, some lesbians.
There's a lesbian.
Is that right? We have.
Yeah, we have.
We have the high-to-life spans.
By the way, I need one truck.
Work, dog, eat your truck.
Look at the legs.
Come on over and help.
Help a big dad with your truck.
(10:29):
Help a big daddy with my truck.
What you're talking about falls in line with what I wrote here
because I came across a post on social media
where a man was asking why men felt it was necessary.
You're done.
I'm out.
It posted that.
Why, why, why, why do you feel like it's necessary?
And I don't respond to a lot of posts, but I wrote,
(10:50):
I found it to be incredibly freeing when I came out.
My journey and life had me living a closet lifestyle
until I was 50.
I wanted to normalize being gay for all of the closet men
and homophobic people out there.
I want to normalize it.
I'm a fairly normal person or I'm a businessman.
(11:11):
I'm a father.
I'm a gay person and I wrote down, I went online
and I typed in myths about being gay.
And you have those also.
Okay.
I thought we would read the top four myths about
people have about being gay on this first big words number eight.
(11:35):
Shit.
I got it.
Thanks for.
Okay.
Myths about gay men.
Number one.
Gay men's molest children.
What did I say when I came out to my wife?
And yet that was the first question.
Well, she thought about it.
She had to process it, of course.
And then she called me back two hours later.
(11:55):
You did you.
Did you.
What are sons?
What the fuck are I now?
How could you answer me?
That's the craziest fucking thing, but that's what people think.
That's what some people think.
That's what some people think when they find out that somebody's gay or they're worried that somebody's gay.
Is that they're gonna molest somebody's children?
(12:16):
Right.
Right.
Number two.
Same sex parents cause harm to their children.
What kind of just, you know, parents, it's you talk about this.
I think you're where your son goes to school.
There's a lot of sex.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's very normal.
Parents can be very loving, can be very kind of shit.
(12:38):
Very kind of shit.
Be very compassionate.
Yeah.
A lot of times there can be a better parent than...
Well, of course.
You stand out of your banner.
Yes.
Same sex partners.
It does not harm the child.
Check to fathers or check to mothers.
Okay.
Number three.
You're in a real...
Yeah.
Go ahead.
People become...
People become homosexual because they were sexually abused as children or there was a deficiency in sexual modeling by their parents.
(13:06):
You did choose to be gay?
I didn't choose to be gay.
Why are you not my gay?
I didn't.
What are you talking about?
I raised a police gayness away from my...
Pray did you rape?
Did you go to that camp with a bunch of...
No, I probably would have, but no I didn't, but I prayed to not be gay.
Did you?
I did.
No, I thought it was it.
I thought something was wrong with me.
(13:27):
I was like, what is this?
What is this?
I was so naive.
But I literally thought I was gonna grow up.
At some point in my life, I was just a...
Boom attract to men.
It was when I got a girlfriend.
It was when I got married.
It's when I had kids.
It's when I got a better job.
(13:48):
But it was gonna happen in a...
Well, that brings it right into the thing.
Yeah, being gay is a choice.
No one is more...
And then number nine...
So number nine on our list.
If anybody out there is a sports enthusiast, because I was looking up the Tyson and...
(14:10):
Jake also didn't want to ever change.
Well, yeah, I watched the fight.
What a disappointment.
I mean, I was surprised I had it on Tyson to win.
I hear it was all great. I think he would have won.
Well, you've been sensing...
Well, it is this one that I, in my personal opinion, it was a fixed fight from day one.
Well, they both got what, 20 million?
(14:32):
Well, no. Is it Jake?
All or Paul J.
Jake's J-A-A-A-A.
He got $47 million and Tyson got $27 million.
What? Yeah.
Got $40 million for that fight.
So I was looking at that fight and I came across this...
You called it out sports.com?
Out sports.com.
It's a gay... It highlights all the gay athletes, all the headlines.
(14:54):
Well, it's an outstirace.
Remember we talked about Ralph Schumacher, the F1 Formula 1 driver, is coming out.
Story was on there, but it has something great to the first...
So when I was a kid, we used to watch the WWF, right?
Yeah.
World Wrestling Entertainment, WWE is a...
Oh, I don't know.
(15:16):
I think so. So the first out-WWE signed wrestler is out in 2024.
I don't know if it's wrestling anymore, but there's a lot of...
If you're like sports...
Out sports.com.
Well, I saw a ball soccer baseball. I had it in my head, but it talks about...
Well, it speaks to sports. You ain't a scary and rugby and run walks.
(15:40):
It's a fudge.
Whenever you have them, they'll lay on the sides.
So I told you about the North-Last episode I talked about Gladiator.
By the way, it's a great movie. Go see it.
I was impressed with it and I was not let down.
Because I think it's one of the greatest...
It's true.
(16:02):
Gator, we tell you...
It was the first Gladiator game.
Look, they all had some makeup and little...
You know, stressing, stressing going on.
But the makeup they had on Gladiator 2 for all these dudes, it was like...
Wow, they are really... Because, look, then...
Which is all in...
(16:24):
Rollin' time, you know, 380 or so or something like that.
Anyway, you know, with the costumes, you know, and...
But then they had the emporers.
Now, I don't want to get into that...
The story itself, but there's two emporers, two brothers.
My God, they...
They look like a dorm from B Witch.
(16:46):
And they're all so little as you guessed.
But with all the makeup, and Dora has so much makeup on.
These guys had so much makeup on.
You know, so it was...
You know what? I was like...
Honestly, when I was sitting there watching this movie, and I'm sitting there watching...
You know, because they have their court and they have all their sex people hanging around.
(17:07):
Then women doesn't...
Just didn't have it.
I mean, it was...
I guess...
It was fine.
You could have happened. You could have done without two men to have sex.
Nothing.
And it wasn't an issue.
But they had women too?
Or they had a wife or what?
(17:28):
Really? Just...
It's kind of crazy how we are...
You know, we've progressed it on generally.
We all have a little beer.
I think there's such fear as time and the play that we've had to like...
Tighten everything up and troll whatever we're doing because...
Ridley Scott did a good job. I loved the movie.
I love you.
(17:49):
Don highly recommends...
I give it... I give it... I give it...
Two penises up.
Two pounds and...
What do you like?
In the stink?
I'll stink in the pink.
How does that go?
The stink in the pink?
Shoo in the pink and one in the stink.
Is that for women? Is that women?
(18:11):
Wasn't that what they used to say?
I'm not heard that way.
Well, I guess we're gonna say...
I guess for a man it's just all in the stink.
It's all in the stink?
Why could it be in the pink?
In the badge and holding the balls of the rich?
Oh, I still haven't done the...
(18:32):
I still haven't given myself a prostate and a subject.
If you listened to the prior episode, what was it?
You're gonna be taking a little shower.
You're right, man.
What you have to hear is...
Tenile gifts.
Yeah?
Um...
Hey, if any of you listeners have tried...
Please try it.
It lends...
Coming inside out at gmail.com
(18:55):
I'd love to hear if you did it after listening to our episode.
I stopped trying to...
I did it at a salon.
I graduated.
I bought a cop ring.
I told you.
Yes.
Yeah, that was...
You thought for years?
Yeah.
Anyways, listen.
I thought we'd do a little trivia time.
(19:16):
John, how many of us...
I mean, try getting anything right, Amber.
You two get stuff right.
You know what?
I mean, it's all fun stuff.
Which you...
You don't need to break out a calculator.
Go to Johnny and...
Gave three blowjobs and...
Well...
You don't need to calculate.
This is easy stuff for you.
(19:37):
Alright.
Here we go.
Well, I was gonna say, you're very dirty.
Am I?
You are.
Am I?
No, no, it's...
I think I've worked up since Tom Springs.
Yeah, I'm a little bit of a sly.
I don't mean to know some bad things.
Could be a bad thing.
That's alright.
I'll be dirty.
I'll be dirty, John.
Go ahead.
Um...
(19:58):
What year was the Grinder app release?
2000.
2000.
It was.
You're right.
The Grinder app was released in 2009, March of 2009.
Included on my son's birthday, March 25th.
(20:20):
What year was the Scruff...
Uh,
Included after that?
Uh...
Did I think...
Think I must have been serious that Grinder was first?
And it's been a lot of follow-up to that, so I'm just gonna guess 2000.
Uh, that's Grinder, I would say, 12.
(20:43):
2010.
That's the name year later.
Yeah, because they all see that and care they're gonna do their version.
What, it doesn't?
Grinder and Scruff are a lot of good Shagrass singers like Manhunt, Leroy.
But are those good?
Adam and Adam or whatever.
I don't do any of them.
And then, well, then Sniffy's is not a good...
Sniffy's is a web page.
Yeah.
(21:04):
It was double list.
What?
Double?
The word double?
And then LIST double list?
It took over for, um...
What do you call that?
Um...
What was the quiz list?
Double list took over for Craigslist.
Oh, and it's all...
Oh, it's a double list?
That's all that is out of the math?
No, no, it's on the internet.
(21:25):
You type in double list, www.doublelist.com, or whatever like that.
And it takes to a site...
There's Growler.
Growler, do you think that I'd growler?
What?
I turned that one off, but I still...
Growler and then Scruff, Tender...
I don't do it.
Daddy, how about it?
Oh.
Good.
Alright.
Alright.
(21:46):
So Grindr is a publicly traded company.
It is?
Yes.
How much is it?
About $42 a share.
Oh, I'd like to...
You know what?
I want to know what that's about.
Can we...
Can we...
It came out January 30th of 5th.
At $14.
At $14 a share.
Yeah.
So it came out.
Okay, so let's put that...
(22:07):
Oh, hold on.
So, okay, so where do you want to start with?
Oh, so you're saying Grindr is a public traded...
Grindr's public traded.
Currently, when I did this research, it said...
$42 a share.
Alright, so to the hell...
It came out at $14.52, and that was $2,000 a day.
So they were...
They were running for six years before they came out to the...
(22:29):
In 14?
I mean, maybe in the $42.
That's...
That's $32.
That's pretty good.
I don't know.
I was losing my account.
So my question...
That's my question, because Grindr is a publicly traded company.
It is?
Scruff?
It is a publicly traded company?
I don't know.
Well, I'm just fooling you.
Okay, Scruff was the one that came out in 2010.
I was in the...
(22:50):
I wasn't in the...
No.
It is not.
Alright.
Who has more users as of September of 23?
Grindr or Scruff?
Grindr.
Scruff does.
Grindr has approximately 13.5 million users, whereas Scruff has over 15 million.
(23:12):
Scruff is a...
Did I cut out?
Yeah.
No.
Away in your head, Tomes.
Why have you been here?
I said Grindr.
Grindr.
13.5 million users, as Scruff has over 15 million users.
And what are...
This is a...
Yeah.
This is...
I'm doing pretty good by the...
(23:33):
You are.
You are.
You've got a couple.
So in 2020, which on penis size...
Yeah.
The average length of an erect penis is all along.
Five and a half.
How'd you know that?
Well, see, I have to fold mine in half to be five and a half.
And I was talking about it to Pride and I said, yeah, when I fold mine in a half, it's five and a half.
(23:58):
You know, that's the average penis.
Oh, there it is.
It is.
Like, yeah, five and a half.
I thought someone came up to me and said, my God, John, your penis is twice the size of the average size penis.
Yeah, that's what...
Well, he said that when I was in the...
Oh, this feels like it's twice the size of the average size penis.
I might be too nasty for you.
No, I don't.
(24:19):
It's just that I...
I think it's all right.
All right.
Don't move here.
What state has the lowest LGBTQ population?
Well, okay, I watched some...
I would probably be the least populated city in the world.
Really?
(24:40):
I'm sure you can go back to some bad case states that are very small, but...
I'm a population...
So you're on the ocean repeat the question.
Okay, what state has the lowest LGBTQ population?
It's always those two.
And they're all over the...
Um...
Let's say you saw the two of us.
No, Dakota, you were on...
(25:02):
Sit down, sit down, sit down.
Look and cheat at these.
Did we talk about that?
Are you sure?
Positive.
Lessoners, I've given you a lot of...
I think we're on the average going, so if we did talk about...
Let me know if I'm...
Yeah, write in and let me know if I was...
Oh, it's North Dakota, huh?
North Dakota.
Lowest population of gay people.
All right.
Well, that...
(25:23):
How's it going to be?
How does it do this, sir?
Give me...
Oh, big...
Big, please just save me.
Just offer the stop bar to see if I could get...
Right, he has a dick in his mouth.
Yeah, John, these was...
This is good.
It gives me...
One of the top five...
Biggest US states in 2024.
(25:45):
Oh, top five.
One of the top five.
You have 50 to choose from.
California.
California is number five with 5.3% of the population used to be gay.
We did this, but we didn't know.
No.
We did some...
Did this order?
Yeah.
Okay.
(26:06):
So we got slouts.
Okay, so I barely made that.
But let's go East.
Let's go Boston.
No, Massachusetts.
Look at your going in...
You're going in reverse order because Massachusetts is number four with 5.4% of the population.
So we got Massachusetts.
This four, California's five.
Three would be...
I'm not going to listen to this.
(26:28):
So that...
No, Illinois is not in the store.
But I will give you number three, which is Nevada.
Half a percent.
Because they left California.
They did.
They left California and went on over to Nevada.
They couldn't know the same language.
That's three.
Okay, I'm thinking.
So two, Arizona.
(26:49):
Oregon.
Oregon.
5.6%.
Oh my God.
No, I know what you meant now.
I didn't know what you...
Now I know.
Then, John, the exodus of California.
Because a lot of people went to Oregon, Washington.
Yeah, and this is a 2024 survey.
So, you know, a lot of people left California drinking.
Wow, a lot of people went...
Number one.
(27:10):
Number one most appealing to the state is...
Drumroll, please.
Well, but it's not over.
Tell us.
Texas has a whorehouse in New York.
It's a Texas home.
It's Washington, D.C. with 8% of the population.
Wait, the District of Columbia?
(27:31):
I should...
No, no, the...
Wait, wait, wait.
And how many are...
percentage?
5%.
The 9.8% of the population.
What's the population of D.C.?
Let's look it up.
Let's look it up right now.
So the population for Washington, D.C. is 5.5 million people.
That's a lot of people.
(27:53):
Remember that?
Because it's not that big.
15% was 9%?
Yeah, 9%.
That's a place to go, John.
That's 460,000.
Is that 450,000?
Plus, yeah.
Yeah, well, yeah.
Almost a half, almost a half.
See, I've always heard that 10% of the population's dead.
I mean, if you guys were all...
(28:14):
Yes.
And that's heard that for a long, long time.
And what do we have?
We have 300 million people in the United States
and 10% of the population's closet.
No, I don't know that.
I just made that up.
So I have no idea.
Yeah.
But that's a...
You bring up a good point here.
So if 10% is 30...
(28:38):
In the...
But I think you are on to something.
I would say 10%...
Another 10% or at least 5% are in the closet.
I would say more than 10% are in the closet.
I would too.
You know what?
You're right.
You're right.
I think there's at least a third.
(28:59):
Would you say a third?
Which would be 100 million?
No.
You know what?
No, but I...
That's plausible.
That's all right.
It's plausible.
It would be...
A lot of...
Some things get a little...
Things are just fluid.
Yes.
And, you know, when you heard this 10% of people are getting the populated area,
(29:20):
these are some old stats from back when...
There are not a ton of new stats out there.
I think the last populace...
Is it called the populace?
What is that poll?
I'm sure you have a poll that's called...
Anyways, it was a 2020 poll.
So there's not a ton of information.
I just can't believe how much is in the water.
(29:42):
What, 8 billion?
Is it 8 billion?
Look at that.
Look at that.
Look at that.
Look at that.
Look at that.
8.2 billion.
Well, wait, I did skip...
My guess was 8.
Oh, I thought you said 8.
No, you said 8.
I said 8.
I guessed 8.
I thought it said 9.
You are on it.
Yes, you are.
Oh, yeah.
I saw it.
(30:03):
I was thinking Spray Cal, 18 billion.
You're thinking populated.
8.8.
8.1.
2 billion.
And the fastest with this were dogeography.
You know, India is just...
We're dangerous tonight because we have a laptop.
We have a lot of stuff.
We're going to research and shit.
So, have you heard about...
(30:24):
I'm going to bounce off of this population thing for a minute.
Have you heard of Blue Sky?
No, I have not.
I've not.
So, I guess the people that were doing work with Twitter,
yeah, when it was Twitter, were doing work through this company called Blue Sky,
but Elon must have fired that division.
Okay.
So, this division had some of the workings, the framework for this social media platform
(30:50):
that has been out, I guess for a while, but it really has taken off since Elon must did something
that missed a bunch of people off.
And this is the lot of people that are not strong,
and that a lot of the gay community is moving over to Blue Sky.
I was never into Twitter.
So, that's why I don't...
I don't understand Twitter.
(31:11):
I understand Twitter. I only opened a Twitter account
so that we could put our podcast on there, but I don't know if I'd see them.
Yeah.
Are you guys anything else first?
Are you going to sing us out a holiday...
A holiday dinner?
Let's see.
I like this one.
But just the fall on your knees part of this is the best part, right?
(31:49):
You know, we all have to fall on knees sometime.
Well, thank you so much for listening.
Hope you have a wonderful holiday.
Thank you, guys.
Thank you, Brian.
We post every Tuesday, so we upload podcasts every Tuesday morning.
Follow us on either Apple's Spotify...
(32:11):
On PoliceFollow and have a wonderful holiday and safe travels.
Thank you.
Thank you.
I just need to...
You look like so buying somebody.
I would like that.
Well, so if I said she's wearing a green shirt, that's right.
Sure.
(32:32):
Buying anybody will make no sense.
You're mad at first, aren't you?
Well, I'm not mad.
I have not as of today.
And when did I open that fricking...
I opened the grind around when I deleted it.
Then six months later I opened it, then I deleted it, then I opened it, then I deleted it.
(32:55):
I did the same thing with the other one.
What's your type?
I don't know.
I'm a young person.
And somebody that was there going to get them in the filter room.
Filtering to do.
From four minutes to six and five?
I do.
I have that on my phone.
I filter it by...
By what?
By my filter.
By what is your filter?
(33:16):
It's...
You don't want...
You don't want seven.
You wouldn't...
So you're fifty-seven.
You wouldn't want to be with a man that was sixty.
No.
Who's the man that was sixty?
No.
I...
No.
Thanks a lot.
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