You Are the Medicine: Breathwork, Divine Intelligence, and Awakening (with Spiritual Director + Sacred Medicine Woman Amanita)

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This episode isn't just aconversation.
It is a reminder that you arenot meant to do this life alone.
That your body isn't just acontainer, it's a conduit.
That your healing isn't separatefrom your spirituality.
It is your spirituality.
Welcome to Embody this, the NOBS Healing podcast for women who
are done playing small.

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I'm Lauren Michelle Jewel, asingle sober business owning
badass who has been humbled ashell by healing.
But I'm not just someone who'slived it.
I've studied it, coached it, andhelped women walk through it for
over seven years in mind, bodyhealth, gut brain science, and
nervous system healing.
I've worked with women who havetried everything, therapy,

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diets, supplements, self-helpwork, but still feel
disconnected from their bodies,their health, and their truth.
Because here's the thing,healing isn't a trend.
It's not aesthetic.
It's not an identity.
Healing is embodied, and let mebe real with you, it's hard as
fuck and it's also rewarding asfuck.

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I know because I've lived it.
And along the way I realizedsomething.
Modern healing methods arefailing us.
Everything is compartmentalized.
Go to therapy.
They say, take the supplements,do the inner work, but no one
teaches you how to actuallyintegrate it.
All this show is for you ifyou're ready to rethink healing.

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It's not about being perfect,being a wellness influencer or
having a PhD in biohacking.
It's about undoing, unlearning,and finally coming home to
yourself.
Quick disclaimer, this podcastis for educational purposes
only.
It's here to expand your mind,challenge old narratives, and
empower you with knowledge.

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It's not a replacement formedical advice.
Always consult a professionalwhen making health decisions.
If this episode hits home,follow the share, rate it,
review it, share it with someonewho needs to hear it, because
you never know whose life youmight change.
Now let's fucking go.
I met Amita, also known asGoddess Amita a few months ago

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when we were both guests at theARC Women's Retreat.
She was only there for a day,but in that one day she became a
mirror, a messenger, and aliving transmission of what it
means to be connected.
She offered channeled guidanceto each woman in the room, one
by one.
And what she brought throughwasn't surface level fluff.

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It was soul level truth.
And when she got to me, shecalled something out that I
didn't even realize I had beenavoiding.
She reflected back to me thatalthough I was open to receiving
on the outside, I was stillresisting divine support on the
inside.
I was still trying to controlthe very guidance I was asking

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for.
And let me tell you, thatrealization cracked something
open in me because receivingisn't just about calling in
external support.
It's about trusting theintelligence within you and
around you.
That's always been there.
Since then, I've followed thebreadcrumbs into AM's world.

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Her astrology work, her mushroommeditations, her teachings, she
doesn't just guide you back toyour body.
She guides you back to sourcethrough truth, through breath,
through the sacred intelligenceof your own nervous system.
She's a spiritual director, asacred medicine woman, a
messenger of the cosmos, butmore than that, she's a woman
who helps you remember that youare never disconnected, even

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when you feel lost, that yourbody can become a temple, not in
the same ether way, but in thegritty, grounded soul honoring
way.
In today's episode, we go deepinto spiritual awakenings,
reclaiming our intuitive giftsusing human design and astrology
to confirm who the hell youreally are, and working with
plant medicines to not escape,but to come home.

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So if you've ever wondered howto reconnect to your spiritual
nature, not as concept, but assomething you embody, this one
is for you.
I am Anita.
Welcome to Embody this.
I'm so glad you're here.

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Wow.
Just listening to that.
Made my heart get all gushy andI was like wow.
Like you really touched my heartright there.
That was beautiful.
Thank you for allowing me toshare today and be a part of
this beautiful podcast, thisdream that you are bringing into

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the world.
I think it's really so powerfulthat we have the ability to make
conscious content, socongratulations for being a part
of the conscious contentmovements.
Welcome in.
You are a beautiful soul.
And the minute I met you, I canjust feel your presence.

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And that's, to me is such a bigindicator of the resonance of
just knowing that I need tofollow that breadcrumb and just
learn from the person who I feelconnected with.
Let's start with like where youare now and what's alive in the
moment, in your spiritualawakening in your life.
Just give us a little taste ofwho you are and the message that
you have here.

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Wow.
It is such a big question toask.
There's so many things that arealive in me.
I recently just had my 44thbirthday, which was like such a
big moment for me because Iremember back in 2017, I don't,
I was in my thirties, I can'tcount back that far, 30

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something.
And I had taken this journey toSouth Africa and.
I felt this very strong urge tofind a, like a spiritual guide
in South Africa.
And I was I was still likeasleep, I was awakening a little

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bit, I was on my journey.
I've been on Anita for a verylong time, but I was a very
different version of myself.
And so I got to South Africa andI met with this spiritual guide
and right before I had went toSouth Africa, I kept seeing 44,
44, 44.
I was seeing this numbereverywhere and I spent time with

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the guide and at the end I justhappened to mention yeah, I keep
seeing 44 everywhere.
And she was like, oh, someamazing things are gonna happen.
Like really big things at age 44for you.
And then she didn't say anymore,and I just, I had been with her
for an hour.
I didn't impress her, I was justkinda okay, cool.
It was, it seems so far in thedistance, right?

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It was like, it's gonna be solong till I get there now.
It's oh my god, I'm here.
And 44.
This is the year of change forme.
I've been on this awakening,working with plant medicine,
working with human design,working with astrology.
I'm a lover of the stars.
I'm a lover of expandedconsciousness and I've been

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doing my own work really deepsince 2002.
And this year is like the yearwhere it's all coming together.
This is what my spiritual mentorcalls the year of great change
for me.
I'm approaching my, I.
Uranus opposition.

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And for those you know thatdon't really know a lot about
astrology, essentially they callthis like the time when most
people have a midlife crisis.
It's somewhere in your forties.
Mine is happening a little bitlater.
Most people started around likeearly forties and are pretty
much done by they by the timethey get to age 44.

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But ironically, mine is juststarting at this lovely age of
44.
For me, it doesn't feel like amidlife crisis, right?
It feels like a deep spiritualawakening.
It feels like I'm connecting toparts of my God consciousness

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that have been there the wholetime that I just was not aware
of that.
I just didn't know how toaccess.
And so this year is.
A year that I'm really gettingto know the authentic version of
myself.
I'm getting to see where my egois and how it developed and how

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it shows up.
I'm getting to see what it feelslike to walk in my spiritual
gifts.
So there's so many things thatare alive.
Now that doesn't mean like alife is like hummingbirds and
butterflies'cause it is goingdown over here.
Okay.
Yeah.
I am in the purge process justlike everybody else, right?

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I got my spiritual mentor justlike those who come to me for
mentorship.
I don't know how people movethrough life or healing or
awakening without guidance.
I've been with my mentor for sixyears.
I don't even know what lifewould've been like in the last

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six years without having amentor to receive guidance from
and like the more that I go intomy awakening, I understand that
a mentor is not necessarilythere to tell you what to do.
Because I don't feel like I tellthose who I work with or I sit

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with or I get an opportunity tobe with.
I'm not there to tell you whatto do.
I'm there because I'm a littlebit further along on the path.
So I am sitting with you and I'mholding the higher vibration of
being a little bit further onthe path.
So our energy fields arebecoming coherent, and all I'm

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doing is reflecting andreminding you of the wisdom of
the guidance inside of you.
So if I didn't have someone whowas further ahead, who could sh
like really sit with me so thatI could feel energetically,
sometimes I was conscious of it,sometimes I was not conscious of
it, grateful that it still came,but to remind me and to help my

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energy field move through whatit feels like to awaken.
I understand why a lot of peoplechoose not to because it's not
the easiest road to take.
Absolutely.
Yeah, I was gonna say, there'smany times where I'm like but
you can't go back once you'reawake to it, you can try, but it
just resistance after resistanceand you realize that you have to

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take ownership of your ownenergy in your own life.
And really the only way out ofthe discomfort is through.
And it's I always say that it'snot feeling that hurts.
It's the resistance to, it's theresistance to fighting what we
are denying, essentially thereality of what we see.

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Absolutely.
I have this thing one of mymentors when I was young in
corporate, but she was actuallya pastor and we were really
close and she used to tell meall the time, you're either
gonna go willingly because thisis the direction that spirit is
leading you, or you're gonna gokicking and screaming.
Either way, sweetie pie, you aregoing love it.

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It's alright, you're likestomping away.
Alright, like fine.
Lemme just make my way then.
Okay.
Yeah exactly.
Because there are like destinmoments on your path that though
it feels like sometimes lifecould be random, but that's
really not the case.

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The more you awaken, the moreyou awaken to your eternal self.
And your eternal self is reallythe only consistent thing that
you're really able toexperience.
And it's hard to use language,right?
Because the language I'm usingfeels like there's a separation,

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right?
But I'm trying to personify whatis eternal, right?
So there is this eternal journalconsciousness.
Of what we are that is observingthe experience that our body is

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having in this reality.
But the experience is not us.
It's only the communicationthat's happening between the
information of the moment andhow we're translating that
through the body so that oureternal consciousness can feel

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it and can grow through it.
Without the body, how would webe able to grow in this realm?
We wouldn't because we needfive, the five senses in order
to have the experience, butwe're not the experience.
I think that's the hardest thingwhen you're moving through your
wake up, is to begin to detachfrom.

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Oh my God, the bills are due, ormy children are acting a mess,
or I'm going through a divorceor this illness.
Those things feel very realbecause emotion is addictive.
You know what I'm saying?
It's addictive.
Very addictive.
Yeah.
It's addictive.
And it's also, it's all you'veknown.
So until you really see it, seeit internally, see it externally

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and you really understand it,it's a felt sense too of that
connection to the greaterintelligence that's really out
there of the, it's so hard toexplain.
It truly is, but that it reallyis connection that you get and
until you get it.
And that's why there's peoplethat are like, I get it.
It's okay.
I understand.
But what would you say tosomebody, like when was the

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moment that you felt like youconnected with that?
Honestly.
Like I've been connected to itthe whole time.
Just the type of spirit that Iam.
My spirit is a very, I wanna usethe word spiritual kind of
spirit, right?

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'Cause there's all types ofspirits, right?
There's the embodiment of truth,there's the embodiment of love,
there's the embodiment ofjustice, right?
There's the embodiment ofhealer.
There's all these differentarchetypes that your spirit can
embody.
When I was, my first memory as ahuman incarnated ha incarnated

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here was, I was about two orthree, like really young.
My mom had me really young.
She was 20 when she had me.
And we had just moved fromCalifornia back to the east
coast, Pittsburgh, which iswhere I was born and raised.
And my mom was young and so shewanted to go out and do what

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young 20 year olds do.
And so she used to take me toher friend, same age, but wasn't
doing the same things as those20 year olds were doing.
And she was my babysitter andher family was a very God loving
family.
They were at church Wednesdays,Sundays.

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My first memory as a human wasbeing in church with my
babysitter.
Her name is Miss Arlene.
I will never forget, I have sucha place for her in my heart and
we're in church and I'mwitnessing her, right?
Someone that I feel safe withand whom I love and have a, like

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all these fond memories of I.
I witness her in churchexperiencing the Holy Spirit.
And I see her crying and I feel,'cause I'm very empathic.
I feel her joy and I feel allthese things.
But as a two or 3-year-old Ididn't have the consciousness to
understand.
I'm just feeling and witnessing.

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I remember we got home thatnight and we were in her room
and she was laying on the bedand I was sitting on the floor.
She had a very low bed and I wassitting on the floor next to
her.
And I remember asking her, Ms.
Orlene, why do you cry inchurch?
And she began to give me thisbeautiful, like she was an

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oracle, to explain to me theHoly Spirit and how we commune
with the Holy Spirit and how theHoly Spirit is in us.
And when we had these moments.
That we come in contact with theHoly Spirit, how it moves us,
and it was that moment that Iwas sold out for God.

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Yeah.
I was sold out for God.
And I've been like that my wholelife.
My parents weren't churchgoers.
I didn't grow up in a religiousI didn't grow up in a religious
home.
I found my way to church on myown.
But I could remember, just beingvery young and having moments
where I was sitting at my windowcrying out to God, because back

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then I felt like you gotta hearme, outside of myself, not
really.
I didn't have the teachings tounderstand that God is within
the kingdom of God is within.
But I had a relationship.
I had enough connection that Iknew that if I spoke.
My request out loud that I wouldbe heard and that I would be

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helped.
And that always was the case forme, I was gonna say, I did not
have that experience and so itwasn't until I got older, until
I got older and got sober whereI finally let it in.
And it was like a deconditioningprocess.
It was a big old deconditioningprocess.
'cause I was like, no,absolutely not.
I felt very betrayed by it.

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I didn't understand it.
I was brought up and I had alittle bit of religion trauma, I
guess you could say.
And so when I did finally let itin, and I understood it from a
different lens, from that feltsense, from that internal sense,
that changed the game for meonce I, and it was that
experience that you wereexplaining with your babysitter,
was that just, it's a felt senseand you, it brings tears to your

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eyes, you feel.
Cold for the first time you feelsupported and there's no one
around you, in that sense.
And you just realize thatthere's something way bigger
than you could possiblyunderstand.
So I think that's really coolthat you've been, that's been
your experience growing up.
I can only imagine how that'sgrown.

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Yeah, for sure.
I think I followed the, thechurch route for a long time.
I went to seminary and got mymaster's in spiritual direction
and was in church and in churchleadership pretty much all the
way up until 2020 when we hadthe pandemic and church became

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an at-home thing.
And it was during that timeperiod that I started to explore
outside of traditional churchand that led me to a lot of
things much deeper into thestars.
Opening to want to try fungimedicines and plant medicines

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and to expand my consciousness.
If I would've stayed in thechurch building, I think I would
have felt restricted or guilt orcondemnation for wanting to
explore these areas.
And so when 2020 came, itallowed me to step away and

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begin to evaluate myrelationship with the Divine.
And Seminary does that for you.
Anyway, I finished seminaryright as the pandemic had
started, right?
I graduated May, 2020.
So seminary already helped me tobegin to question why I believe

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what I believe, and why am I apart of the types of structures
that I am a part of.
So I was already wanting toshift a bit because I wanted a
deeper experience with God.
I wanted to get to sourcebecause my whole degree program,

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spiritual direction, you spendthree years in this program that
is all about deepening yourrelationship with the divine.
I learned how to be a sacredholder of the path to divinity
and to hold space for those whowant to explore that.

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And that's intimate and can'tnobody tell you, and I don't.
Want to offend anyone who has anaffinity for church, because
church was my foundation.
It laid a lot of things.
I'm so grateful I learned andhad community and wow, so many
amazing things happen in my lifeduring that time period.

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And I chose to expand outside ofthe walls, right?
Because my heart wanted toexplore the relationship deeper
and what I was looking for.
I didn't find that reflection inthe building.
Absolutely.
Yeah.
And I think that's important toexpress too, because I feel like

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when we have the rigidstructures or this has to be the
way it is, like you feel, I feelthat and I wanna rebel anytime I
feel that.
And so when you can come to,your own understanding, without
the shame, without the guilt,without the caring of that, and
you can.
Expand your consciousness torealize that it's everywhere.

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It's not just one right spot,it's just, it's your experience
of it and how you want to, sowhat are some of the ways that
you ended up expanding andexploring it?
The first place that I wentcoming out of the four walls is
I gravitated towards breath workas ironically, right?

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How we got to meet at Vaughn'sretreat was I started looking
for other things that I coulddo.
This was well before I came intoplant medicine, right?
And so I began to explore mybreath, and that's how I met
Vaughn.
I was in her very first breathwork class, and that very first
class took me way into myself,like I had never felt before.

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And then I woke up from thereHey, I don't know who you are.
But you me, we gonna build arelationship.
We have to be friends.
I don't know what magic youunfolded, but I need more of
that in my life.
It's so funny how that happens.
Yeah.
I remember I took the mic andwas like, I don't know what just
happened, but I just need to leteverybody know that I cannot

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believe I spent money on drugsbecause, what was that?
It's free.
I just breathed for an hour andI'm literally like in another
land, it's so insane.
And it's also, v is just aphenomenal facilitator and
holder of all that medicine.
Absolutely.
So that was the first place Iwent later to understand that.

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The, this is what they say isthat inside of the lungs is
where we hold the mostendogenous DMT, right?
So let me just break that down.
For those who are unfamiliar DMTis what they call the God
molecule.
It's already produced inside ofthe body.

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It's endogenous to the body, andit is taken up into the brain.
And it's almost like the brainis eating it so fast, right?
And so we're not having thesesuper mystical experiences every
time we breathe.
But a breath is a miracle,right?

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That's why when pe, when yousneeze and they say, your heart
stops for a moment and you say,God bless you, right?
Because oh, breath is theblessing of miracle.
So when we are doing breathwork.
We are taking more oxygen, whichis allowing that DMT to be

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produced more.
And so we're consuming more ofit in the brain, which is
allowing us to have thesemystical experiences without
taking anything because we aremagical.
So of course our breath wouldget us into our God
consciousness.
I never had anybody explain it.

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I understood it and knew it, andI knew the way it did with the
oxygen, but that makes so muchsense and I'm a nerd for the
science.
So thank you for explaining itthat way because that makes so
much sense.
Because you definitely do notstay here on the 3D realm.
You definitely go far away.
Far.
You can go really far andthere's so many different ways
to work with your breath.

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There's the connected breath.
There's where you hold yourbreath and you let all of the
oxygen kind of release out ofyour bloodstream, that's a whole
different experience, right?
There's the breathing in throughthe nose, out through the mouth.
There's the holotropic in andout of the mouth, right?
There's the fire breath.

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There's all these ways to workwith your breath to get into
these expanded states ofconsciousness.
So for anyone listening who isman, I really wanna get deeper
connected with my soul, with myspirit, with what is really
truthful, with's real.
The first place to start is withyour breath.

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Just breathing consciouslytaking a moment to just calming
your nervous system down.
Practicing the 4, 7, 8 breath.
Breathe in through yournostrils, 2, 3, 4, hold for
seven seconds, and then exhaleout the mouth slowly for eight

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seconds.
As you do that, you're gonnafeel the tension in your
shoulders drop.
You're gonna feel your bodyrelax, and you're gonna come
into a bit of presence.
Do that for five to 10 rounds.
Oh, you're gonna feel what'strue inside of you.
You're gonna quiet the ego voicethat constant conversation

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that's happening, and you'regonna slip into consciousness.
What's been holding you withwill always hold you what will
continue to hold you, whichyou'll never be able to separate
yourself from.
You'll get a glimpse of thateternal.
That is flowing through you.

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Around you.
Above you, behind you.
Underneath you.
It's everywhere.
So when people come to me andthey're like, oh, I really
don't, oh, it's just just let'sjust breathe.
Let's just breathe.
Yeah.
Let's just breathe.
Yeah.
And the best thing is I alwayssay you can't forget it.
You can't be like, oh man, Ileft that back in the car.

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It's just not the right time.
Like I know we have resistanceto do it'cause you experience it
and you're like, I'm gonnachange my life.
And then all of a suddenresistance pops up.
But you really can't.
You can't forget it.
So it's always there.
So you know, you're alwayshooked up and you're always able
to really regulate yourself.
But that's beautiful.
I think that's the best way todo it too.
It gives people their own, theirbody agency back to realize that

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it's not so complicated.
It's not so complicated.
We just make it so complicatedsometimes with our stories and
not understanding what it is.
And it can be simple asconnecting with breath.
What are some other beautifulavenues that you've taken?
'cause I know you got a lot, butI just, trying to guide the
conversation so people reallyunderstand the depth that you

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take it and the medicine thatyou have.
But yeah, what was like the nextstep that you took once you
started to play with, breathwork and you started to expand
your wings out there and play?
Yeah, so breath work came onlineand then I started to play with
sound and energy psychology,right?

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Energetic energy psychology islike EFT, emotional freedom
technique.
But I started with magnettherapy, which is the same, but
you use a magnet and you'reusing a magnet on.
Your meridian lines.
And so you're calling forth thisenergy that you're ready to
release and then you are lettingit go by using the magnet over

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your meridian line, usually fromlike your third eye down to the
base in the back of your head.
Which works extremely well.
It's, emotion code came onlinefor me and I started playing
with emotion code, which got meinto tuning into energy, because
I had been sensitive.
I'm a highly sensitiveindividual, I feel and

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interprets emotion and energyall the time.
And so that emotion code helpedme to begin to put language to
what I was feeling in myself andothers.
And then sound began to help meto learn how to rebalance the
energy field.
And then I fell into reiki.
And so then I began to play inother people's fields, right?

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Not just my own healing, but nowI'm like, let me put my hands on
you and see what, like I canfeel, right?
Let me play these sound bowlsfor you.
Take a breath, lemme use mymagnet on you.
So I started experimenting and Ihave some sister friends who've
been with me, my day one sinceall this process started, and
they were my Guinea pigs.
I'm very grateful to them.

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Shout out, y'all know who y'allare.
I'm very grateful because I justwould invite them over and I
would have these sister circlesand I would just be like, okay,
y'all go with me here, theywould open their heart and they
would just trust and then wewould end up having amazing
experiences and they'd be like,okay.
Over time I built trust.
Okay, what Anita says do turnsout, okay, so like we're gonna

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experiment.
I was introducing them to thethings that I was coming in
contact with.
Then after reiki, I fell intomushrooms and that was the icing
baby.
The wake up, hello, where areyou?
Everyone on here knows that I'msober, but I still take plant

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medicine, I'm microdose.
I've used it in times that Ineeded when I was raw dog in
life.
My first breakup I had when Iwas sober, I was like, I'm need
to open my heart up.
I'm gonna need to like work withsomething to help me move
through these energies, becauselike we said, I.
It is really hard these daysmoving through the tense

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energies and trying to do it allby yourself.
I needed support and I found it,and I found it and I found a,
just a different perspective onlife.
And I found they're like littlefairies.
I don't know how to explain theway mushrooms though.
What it feels for me.
But it's like a little fairyjust telling you like, little
work over here, little work overthere.

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We're gonna support you here.
Life's beautiful, by the way.
It always feels like a littlefairy friend that just allows me
to expand myself and open up andrelease what needs to be
released.
So I'm gonna let you take itaway on this because I know your
baby.
Really.
My baby.
Yeah.
So I just wanted to say, becausewe talk about what's in our

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consciousness within us when wespeak, right?
So you just said, oh, themushroom feels like a ferry.
Everybody's not gonna say that.
That's not the experience that Ihave, but because you said that,
right?
So that must mean that you havesome type of connection to fairy
energy, right?
Newsflash, fairies and gnomes.

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Oh, they weren't just in theSmurfs and the cartoons and
Peter Pan.
Yeah.
Where did they come from?
Yeah.
These things exist in certaindimensions.
And yeah, just a little sidenote there, I wanted to catch it
is explore what Chachi PT variesand see what that opens up in
your awareness of what kind ofspirit you are.

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Where does your soul come from?
What type of energies do youinteract with?
What's around you?
So I find it interesting thatyou use the word fairy.
Yeah..
I don't know.
Yeah.
I don't know why I used thatword.
Yeah.
Like a little friend, like justgiving me the guidance that I
needed, like the myceliumnetwork's.
Yeah.
I just find that like when weare talking, sometimes we're not

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conscious of it, but.
A lot of times we are speakingstraight from our soul memories,
and so I love to listen topeople, right?
I'm a really good listener.
My fiance might say somethingdifferent, but in, in my work,
I'm a really good listener andI'm a stickler for language.
But I understand that when westart to speak, we can hear

(33:30):
what's active, what we areremembering.
'cause sometimes you'll saythings and it's where did that
come from?
Oh, that came straight from yoursoul, baby came straight from
your soul.
But yeah, anyway, onto themushrooms.
What I would call as ancientteachers.
To me the mushroom is a sentientancient teacher.

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Fun fact.
The spore, they say is the onlything that can travel through
space.
Undamaged.
So if we were to leave what theysay the Earth's atmosphere, we
would probably not make itanywhere, right?
Because they say once you go upso far, and then once you get

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out, we ain't gonna be able tobreathe.
Or we might catch on firebecause of the sun and all these
different things, right?
But the spore can travelthroughout the universe unarmed.
So when you think about theseancient teachers that are older
than the earth.

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The spore St.
Travels throughout the universelooking for places to set itself
down and help with evolution.
To me, they like the hand ofsource.
So when you're interacting withthe mushroom, which is the
fruiting body of the mycelium,the actual organism is the

(34:57):
mycelium and then it births themushroom, the sex organ of the
mushroom.
It's why they look like, sothen, so the mycelium is
birthing the sex organ of themushroom, and then it's
reproducing, which is thespores.
It opens the cap and it bustout.

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All these spores and the sporesjust go traveling.
So we're inhaling spores, sporesall the time because mushrooms
are constantly coming up,opening, bursting, sending their
seed out to reproduce, right?
Because that's what the mushroomdoes.
It's all about evolution andreproduction.

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So the SPO came here to earthand began to partner with
whatever was here, right?
And it began to grow and partnerwith the water and the
vegetation and, millions andmillions of years later, now we
have this beautiful earth withwater and trees and flowers and

(36:02):
fruits and humans and all thethings.
This is not the first time it'sdone this right.
Interesting.
Fun fact.
I was just listening to DeepakChopra.
I have a newfound obsession withhim because of how he talks
about consciousness.
And so if you really wanna getlike a really good scientific,
what is consciousness?

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He has a really good way ofdescribing it on Know Thy Self
podcast, look Up Depop Chopra.
But anyway, he was talking aboutthe known fact that within the
universe, like they know thatthere is life, like life, how we
know it as on planet earth.

(36:44):
I would imagine the humansprobably look a little bit
different, but there is liketrillions, I think he said, of
like evidence of there's waymore life out there.
Yeah.
Maybe way older than earth,right?
In our universe.
So if you think about themushroom and it's connection,

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it's.
Gotta be on all those planets.
So it has all this informationacross millions, maybe even
billions.
Who knows what time is right?
But across eternity, you mightas well say it has all this
information, access toinformation.
So when we take the mushroom ina sacred way and we hold the

(37:29):
intention of, I wanna communewith the sacred, I wanna commune
with the eternal.
I wanna commune withconsciousness.
Help me to be able to awaken tothe consciousness that I am.
The mushroom is an amazingteacher to show you the way to
awakening your consciousnesswithin yourself.

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How do I know?
Because I have had thatexperience.
I'm in the beginning of myawakening.
I am very sure.
That my ego and I are notnecessarily like a dynamic duo
anymore.
I'm very clear on my ego voiceand I know how to live through

(38:11):
my spirit.
I know my spirit.
I know I'm more tuned into myspiritual identity.
I'm less connected to a Anitatoday is here and this
incarnation and these egoicstructures that I had to create
to survive.
And then I created a personalitythat then people began to know

(38:32):
me by.
I'm very clear when thatpersonality is showing and when
I'm just here speaking straightfrom consciousness, my own
consciousness, right?
So that's what the mushroom cando for you is take you into what
is truth.
Because we're all wired for thedesire to experience truth, to

(38:56):
know truth, to want tounderstand who am I?
What kind of spirit am I, andwhy did I incarnate, what is my
life's work here and what is mysoul curriculum so that I can

(39:18):
grow and evolve through theexperiences that I chose on my
path.
Absolutely.
Yeah.
That gives it structure becauseif you're I forget sometimes
'cause I'm in it, but if I wassomebody who was not connected
and was living life, there'sgonna be a lot of times where I
would probably ask, what's thepoint?

(39:38):
It's what's the point?
Why am I here?
What am I doing here?
It feels like a rat race, right?
And I feel like once.
You do tune in to this and youallow yourself to open up,
whether it's through breathwork, whether it's through a
motion code, whether it'sthrough mushrooms, it's a
relief.
And it's also, you realize thatit's not, the matrix just starts

(40:04):
to dissolve.
That's really it.
But you have to experience thematrix to experience the
awakening.
So it's not like one goes awayand you're getting away from it.
You are it, you have to holdreverence for the matrix.
And you have to hold reverencefor yourself as you start to
expand.
And really, it's like aplayground in a way, but

(40:24):
sometimes that shit's painful asfuck.
Sometimes that shit justdestroys you.
But you know that it's notforever, that there's a bigger
like for me, the deeper thepain, sometimes I'm like, all
right, this is gonna be a bigold come up from this because
you're expanding your capacityto hold.
Yeah, I was just having thisconversation with one of my
sister friends.

(40:45):
I'm a huge matrix movie lover,right?
I must have watched the trilogy.
I'm talking about sit down on aSaturday with my popcorn and all
the things, and I'm Matrix 1, 2,3.
Now we got four.
I didn't spend a whole Saturdaywatching because every time I
watch it, I learn something newbecause it's such a deep movie.

(41:10):
Like the woman who wrote it andthen they took it from her and
yada.
But there's so much in thatmovie.
But I was just telling her how Iwas reliving Neo's journey from
being in the Matrix.
Feeling the call to something'sdriving you.
And then Trinity pops up on hiscomputer, follow the white

(41:31):
rabbit.
He follows the white rabbit,right?
She talks to him and tells him,Hey, I know what you're looking
for.
We're watching you.
And then he gets confronted bythe Matrix who's yo, we see you
trying to operate outside of theMatrix.
If you don't stop doing that,it's gonna be a problem.
And then he ends up coming incontact with Morpheus, who
presents him the opportunity, ifyou wanna leave the matrix, here

(41:54):
it is, right?
So he leaves the matrix, right?
This life that he had beenliving, that was real, that was
very real to him.
He takes the blue pill, theyextract him out of the matrix,
back into consciousness.
And then the next scene theyhave to rebuild his body, right?

(42:14):
And so he opens up his eyes andMorpheus is standing there, and
he is like, why is my eyes hurt?
And Morpheus was like, you'venever used them.
And it was like, wait, what?
And then we go through thisprocess with Mio and we get to
the very end, right?
I'll skip to for sake, but Icould really break it all the
way down.
But we get to the very end,right?
Or we get to Nio sees theOracle, okay?

(42:36):
'cause this is the importantpart.
NIO goes to see the Oraclebecause Morpheus thinks he's the
one.
So he has to go get affirmed andhe gets to the Oracle and the
Oracle's sorry kid.
If you don't believe you're theone, I guess you're not the one,
right?
And so Neo leaves Morpheus isrisking all this.
And he thinks I'm the one, andI'm not even the one.

(42:57):
But the only way that he got toknow that he was the one is he
had to be put in situations todemonstrate his power.
So we get all the way to the endof the movie, he dies in the
Matrix, which you should die ifyou get shot in the matrix,
right?

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He gets shot in the matrix.
But Trinity loves him.
So she whispers in his ear, youcannot die.
You must be the one because youare who I love.
And love brings him back tolife.
And then at that moment, heknows who he is.

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Oh, I am the one.
And he demonstrates that.
Gets up, they go to shoot, hestops.
The bullets, looks at him like,oh, you can't hurt me.
Like I know who I'm now.
Once you know who you are,right.
Once you know your power, who'smessing with you.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
So the only way that we reallyget to understand our power when

(44:03):
we're waking up is we call forththese.
Experiences where we have towalk our walk and talk our talk.
And that's a part of embodiment.
Oh, you say, it's like in theMatrix where Neo is going
through all the training and heis learning all these things and
then Morpheus comes to him AndNeo's I know Juujitsu.
And Morpheus is show me.

(44:23):
And they get in there and theyget the fighting and he is
getting his butt kicked.
Yeah.
And Morpheus says, you thinkthat's air you're breathing.
There's rules here that you canbreak.
But until you know that you canbend them and expand them by
trying.
You don't know.
'cause you're still operating inthis limited mindset.

(44:45):
Yes.
Call.
Yes.
We fight for our limitations.
Yes.
Yeah.
We constantly fight for ourlimitations.
We don't realize it.
We have no idea.
We have no idea.
So for me, where I am in myawakening, I understand that
when I'm calling thesechallenges to me.
One, I'm calling them becauseI'm needing to see what's still

(45:07):
in my belief system that nolonger serves me.
When you awaken to highvibration, it's oh, this is
amazing.
But along with the wake up comesall the lower vibration stuff
that you've been stuffing downthat's been hidden because once
you raise your vibration, thenwhat's not in alignment begins

(45:27):
to show itself.
So whatever is not in alignmentwhen you come into awakening,
you can't be surprised that oh,things start looking what's
happening here?
Where's the money in the bank?
Why is my spouse acting thisway?
My, why are my children actingthis way?
It's just because you have toclear, you have to purge.
So you are calling those thingsforward so you can see every

(45:51):
experience is a reflection ofwhat we believe.
There is.
You can never live outside ofyour beliefs.
So whatever is happening in yourlife, if you can be courageous
enough to take responsibilityand say, I called this forward.
Now what are you here to show meabout what's inside of myself?
Once you do that, then thesecond thing is you have to

(46:15):
recognize that most experiencesare coming to show you where
you're giving your power away.
And that could be interestingbased on what presents itself,
but giving your power away couldsimply be like I'm giving my
power away to the cheeseburger.

(46:39):
Because I'm riding home fromwork and I don't feel like
cooking, and so I'm just gonnastop and get fast food.
And then you do that over andover again and then your body
starts to break down.
And so it's but wait, like I'mworking, I'm doing all the
things like why is thishappening?
Because you're giving your poweraway to something that's not in
the same vibration of what youreally are.

(47:02):
So of course you can do it for awhile, but eventually it's gonna
catch up with you becauseeverything that you do that's
not in alignment with the truthof who you are must be purged.
Yes.
And everything has a cause andeffect.
And I also feel like too I finda lot of times with my clients.
So I see the way that I seesymptom and diseases through

(47:24):
initiation.
So like the body's never tryworking against you.
It's always trying to protectyou, and there's a cause and
effect from it.
So a lot of times when clientscome to me, most of my ideal,
clients and all that, they areaware of like the work, right?
They're not just beginningthey're aware of it.
They started doing some type ofmindset work maybe not working

(47:44):
with the body fully, but theyfind that once they start doing
that and maybe they start eatingclean and they're finally in a
place, maybe they left theirex-husband and maybe they
started the business, thedisease comes and it's when
they're in a place of safety.
And so I always say it's aninitiation.
It's where the body is, you'reliterally coming in and it's
calling you deeper in toidentify where you are no longer

(48:07):
in alignment with this identity,because that's what disease is.
It's the identity, it's thefrequency, it's the energetic
holding of that identity, ofthose thought processes, of that
emotional it's an emotionaladdiction that's just constantly
like flowing through us.
We just don't realize it.
We're just, we were conditionedto it.
And so we have to literallyupgrade the entire system, the

(48:30):
wifi and all of that to clear itout.
And so it's the same conceptwith the spiritual awakening
aspect of it.
That's so good.
That's that's so spot on.
Yeah.
I felt it very deep when Istarted to notice it when I was
learning about it.
'cause I obviously felt the poolthrough my spiritual connection,

(48:50):
but I was like, I want to anchorthis in.
So I went really deep for a longtime in science just to be like,
okay, it's all the same.
It's all the same.
It's all confirmed.
But I wanted to anchor it in andthe more that I understood the
body and I understood the waythat the nature and disease
works, I was like, okay, I canwork with this.
This is, this has a lot of depthand meaning.
It's just, I.

(49:10):
Completely the way that we'vebeen brought up and the paradigm
of medical and health and allthose things.
So I'm gonna change it.
I love that.
I love that.
It's very powerful when we canbegin to take our power back
over our mind because everythingis neutral really.

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It's the way that we areperceiving it.
How are we giving it?
Meaning you and I could walkinto a room and see blood on the
ground and you might look at itand be like, oh my God, what has
happened?
Everybody.
Okay?
And I might be like.
I wonder if there's a woman herethat is having a moon, we should

(49:52):
honor this.
Two totally differentperspectives.
We're seeing the same exacttheme.
And that's what's happening allthe time, right?
We're having our own interactionwith data, divine intelligence
experience, and based on what'sinside of us, what's in our
programming is determining howwe are making meaning of what's

(50:14):
presenting itself.
How attached are we based onwhat our ego had to do in order
to allow us to survive ourupbringing and this world.
'cause there's a lot of thingsin this world that we need to
protect ourself from.
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
How do you channel in theastrology and the human design

(50:37):
when you're working with clientsto anchor, to ground all this
information in?
I am a lover of the cosmos.
I didn't even really realize it.
It was in my second mushroomjourney, which was my five gram
heroic dose.
And during that journey, I hadan experience with what I

(51:02):
believe is like my spirit guide.
And my spirit guide took me upuntil, what I am saying is like
a galactic classroom and was, itfelt like I was up there for a
thousand years, right?
Because I was getting so muchinformation.
One of the things that I learnedin that experience was how
connected I was to the stars andthe cosmos and being able to.

(51:26):
Be a messenger for thisinformation.
And so that was January of 2022.
When I learned this aboutmyself.
I woke up from that journey andit took I'm still living into
that, which is inside of me.
And so it's been such a naturalevolution because it was

(51:48):
something that I didn't know wasinside of me.
And then I got this awarenessthrough sitting with the
mushroom.
And then I began to just kindaallow the breadcrumbs to be
presented.
And I've been following thispath.
So I first jumped in deep withhuman design and I went through
Karen Curry Parker's curriculumand became certified as a

(52:12):
quantum human design specialist.
And when I started using humandesign.
To help people understand theiruniqueness and what they were
experiencing outside of theirceremonial experiences.
'cause the real work happenswhen you wake up, right?

(52:33):
When you come out of yourjourney and you're reintegrating
back into life, how do youintegrate and begin to make
these changes and embody theinformation?
And so human design was what Ibegan to use to help people in
embody the changes because whenyou're looking at your human

(52:57):
design, sharp.
It's a beautiful graft that it'slike a picture that gets stamped
in your consciousness.
So to me, that was like what Iwas doing was taking this
picture of their uniqueness,stamping it into their
consciousness, and thenbeginning to help them to align
to how their divine design ishappening inside of their body.

(53:21):
Technology, when you helpsomeone tap into, wow, I've been
doing that, but I didn't knowwhy I was doing that.
That is the most empoweringthing that you could do for
anyone, right?
For me to just tell you, oh,you're a this and you're a that,
and you're a this or a that.
That's not gonna change you.

(53:42):
But if I can help you to becomeaware by asking the right
questions, by opening up yourcontemplation and your
reflection of how things tietogether and how that fits into
your divine design, that opensup spaces in your neural
pathways to be like, huh, wait aminute.

(54:02):
That feels like truth to me.
Let me allow more of that in.
So that's how I started with thehuman design.
And then I've been working withastrology in my own healing for
six years with my mentor.
And so it was probably aroundthe time when I started the.

(54:22):
Certification with human designthat I began to really start to
dig deeper into astrology.
'cause they're tied together.
Human design sits on top ofastrology.
And so I began to like dibbleand dabble and start to learn on
my own about the stars and thecosmos and looking at it more of
how my mentor was teaching methrough my own life.

(54:44):
And it became a self study withastrology there.
Yes.
It was like, same study was, ohwow, this is happening.
How is this affecting me?
How am I feeling?
The energy?
And then it really wasn't untilrecently where I started to take
classes so that I could get likemore of a structure.
But I don't consider myself likea traditional astrologer because

(55:08):
they focus a lot on likecharacteristics and different
types of things.
There's a lot of different areasof astrology.
I really am more.
Call to how do the cosmos helpme understand me as a soul and

(55:32):
what I came here to experienceand what is my purpose and how
can I better see myself?
And so really I'm, when I'mlooking at a person's astrology
and helping them to use that forembodiment, I'm really concerned
about where they are on theirsoul journey and how can I help

(55:53):
them become more aware of whatthe curriculum is right now?
'cause we're always in aclassroom, right?
Yeah.
We're always in the classroom.
So what do the cosmos say aboutyour current curriculum?
Can I help you become more awareof that?
Because once you become aware ofyour current curriculum, then
you stop repeating things.

(56:15):
I recently just had a ahamoment.
I was telling my fiance.
I am outliving right now,something that I have been in
eight times.
Wow.
Eight times.
It has taken me to repeat thiscycle over and over.
Each time you really needed tolearn it.
You really needed to learn itbecause it's something that's so

(56:38):
deeply embedded in me and I'mjust now really awakening to oh
wow.
This pattern is something thatI've been, it's been in me
probably since birth.
And that's gonna pull all thetethers because it's a pattern
te that's been along the ride.
So it's gonna untether almosteverything.

(56:59):
So yay you.
Yay me, right?
Yeah.
I'm having my Uranus oppositionand then I'm also having a
Saturn opposition.
So life is, you know what I'msaying?
Like I'm really in my PhDprogram right now are you're in
a death and rebirth cycle.
But it's so beautiful.
Yes.
Because it's, it align isexactly what we're talking about
here.
It's how your identity and allthe things that were not aligned

(57:22):
or dissolving, and then you'regonna be fully stepping into
that beautiful, energeticgoddess that I think I got to
see a little taste of taste, atour last, a little taste.
But it's beautiful.
And I think it's great and Ithink that.
We're going away from the timeof being like, oh, I am an
astrologer.
I am a human design teacher.

(57:43):
And we're really learning likethe multi-dimensional essence of
like how we can use all of thesedifferent things to help people
find their way.
Because it should not be, justas we open this conversation up,
it's if it is super boxed in andstructured, like we are all
feeling that we don't want thatanymore.
We wanna spread our wings out.
We wanna figure out what worksfor us and it needs to be

(58:04):
personalized and it also needsto be expansive because that's
where we're going.
That's what it feels like we'regoing to.
And it is just the old ways arecrumbling.
Yeah, for sure.
Wow.
You're so good at articulatingwhat's in the field.
Yes.
Patterns are my thing.
Patterns are definitely mything.
And seeing it and trying tobring it together, that's

(58:26):
something that I love doing.
And it's just something thatnaturally came came as I started
doing this work.
Ah, thank you.
I thank you for seeing thatEmmy.
This is a lot to take in forpeople, listening to our
conversation, there's gonna bepeople who are love it.
There's no other people thatminds are gonna be blown.
And what would you say?
'cause right now we're in thehuge collective shift, right?

(58:47):
We're being asked to slow down,kinda like we were saying
earlier, to listen deeper and tolead from a different place than
we used to.
So what are some words thatyou'd share with them right now
that kind of comes upintuitively about the listeners
that are gonna be tuning in?
Yes.
So where we are right now,right?

(59:08):
This is, we're not in like rightbutterflies and it's not the
butterfly ooh, gooey Gucci time.
We are collectively purging.
So most people that I talk tohave been feeling this wow,

(59:29):
there's a lot of things that arecoming out of me.
There's a, there's some thisdiscomfort inside of me.
For a lot of us, it's notcompletely disrupting your life,
but it is making you feel a bituncomfortable and like I'm, I
don't have a sense of control.
And that is because we're inthis Pisces, Virgo, north Node,

(59:53):
south node, which is like thecollective kind of classroom
that we're all in until nextyear or July.
Pisces is all about divinity andsurrender and moving into divine
flow and trusting that.
God can, God will, God alwaysdoes.

(01:00:19):
When we get into alignment withsource inside of us, Virgo is
that part of us that is morestructured and wants to have our
hands on.
It wants control.
So this time period is reallyabout the balance between

(01:00:40):
surrender and structure, right?
It's really the, like, how do webegin to understand our power
and how do we use that in asacred way?
Yeah, it's giving like feminine,masculine, like the combo of it.
That's what I was getting fromthat.

(01:01:01):
Yeah, because you can't be toofeminine, right?
Because if you're too in yourfeminine, then chances are
you're not.
Getting things done right.
So there is a this balance thatwe're doing this dance, but
we're learning how to be moretrusting regardless of what's

(01:01:22):
happening in front of us.
We're being called to deepen ourconnection to our spirituality,
which is the only thing that isalways gonna remain whatever's
coming in our reality.
The 3D reality is gonna come andit's gonna go.

(01:01:48):
The only thing that is eternalis you, the truth of who you
are, your consciousness, yoursoul, and your spirit.
So this time is really aboutdeepening your connection with
your spirit so that when thingsstart happening, because they
are gonna happen.

(01:02:08):
Where, because we have tochange, right?
This is our moment in humanityto make different decisions
about power and control andsystems is the way that we've
always been doing it, the way wewanna continue to do it?
Probably not.
Probably not.
So in order for us to buildsomething new, right?

(01:02:32):
We've got to collapse what'salready been in place for a long
period of time, and anytime westart to collapse things that
have been in place, that pullson our comfort, right?
It makes us uncomfortablebecause we're used to things
being a certain way, right?
So this time period is if Icould make any suggestion, it

(01:02:55):
would be to call in and alignwith a spiritual practice.
Is that taking 15 minutes to dothe 4, 7, 8 breath?
Is that sitting in meditationfor 15, 20 minutes and listening
to Sgio frequencies or somethingthat calms your nervous system,

(01:03:15):
is that going out into natureand doing a walking meditation
where you're not thinking, butyou're just in gratitude and
witnessing our relationship thatwe have with the trees and the
planet, right?
Whatever is your way to getgrounded and connected to the
truth of what you are and whoyou are is what we're being

(01:03:38):
asked to deepen right now.
And those of us who begin tocultivate those tools, we're
gonna be able to better movethrough the transition because
we're not gonna be so attachedto what's happening in the
material world because our truesecurity is gonna be in what's

(01:03:58):
eternal, what's never gonna die,and that is you, my love.
Yeah, that's a great way to wordthat.
Beautiful way to word thatbecause it's so true.
And I think too with the age ofai, like I love ai, I love chat
gt love it, right?
Oh my God, I love it.
I'm not gonna say it, like I'lluse it, I'll use it.
But like the thing that's gonnacome from that, the way that

(01:04:19):
it's going to expand is that themind, the way that we've needed
knowledge and we've needed allthose things, it's going to take
over in that sense.
So like really the true truththat we need to really
understand about the human isour like divinity and like our
connection with source and ourembodiment and our understanding
that we are already connected.

(01:04:40):
That we already have thatinformation.
And the quicker that we canground ourselves in that and
understand how connected we are,all that shit just doesn't feel
as threatening anymore.
It truly doesn't.
So thank you for wording it theway that you did, because I
think that it's.
Digestible that the way that yousay it and it's easy on the ears

(01:05:01):
and not so a lot of people whocan explain it and can sound, it
can sound a lot.
So thank you for that.
Thank you.
Yes, absolutely.
I feel like we all are coming toa place where we're gonna get an
opportunity to understandexperience that we have all the

(01:05:21):
answers inside of us, right?
We have access to divineintelligence, just like chat,
GPT does right chat.
GPT is actually teaching us howto interact with divine
intelligence better.
'cause we're asking it questionsand then it's spitting back an
organized way to categorize andread out the data.

(01:05:44):
And what that is doing ishelping our neural pathways
learn how to better.
Yes.
Take in that data, the divineintelligence so that it's
growing us up as we are growingit up.
So it's like chat.
BT is really helping us to seethat we are, it's the artificial
intelligence, we are the organicintelligence.

(01:06:10):
We are the most intelligent weare magnificent and people we
are like, it's mind blowing whenyou take a moment to really.
Understand the level of whathuman beings are.
It's not even mind blowing.
It's gonna, it blows your mindbecause it's, I don't understand
half the things that we can do,and I know there's more, and I

(01:06:31):
know that I've healed.
The more gifts have come online,the more I'm like, I know
nothing.
It's really so magical.
I think my favorite thing inlife, I'm so glad and so
appreciative that in thislifetime I chose to do what I do

(01:06:53):
because I get the privilege, thehonor to witness a soul, a being
that is incarnated, go along thepath of awakening and actually
begin to wake up to themselves.
The greatest gift for me andwhat I do.
By far is the moment a client isoh, Anita, I just, that's the

(01:07:19):
moment for me.
Tell me, I'm like, what?
I can't tell you.
You have to get to it yourself.
All I can do is point you, tothe path, but you gotta want it.
But when the, when somebodywants it and they start moving
towards it, and they startmeeting what consciousness is,
and they start to become awareof what they are in

(01:07:42):
consciousness, that is the bestmoment I could be having.
The worst day, can't pay a bill,son might've did whatever.
When I get moments like that.
I'm so grateful.
Like I am so grateful becausewatching, witnessing a person
wake up to themselves, theirpower, their knowingness, their

(01:08:06):
life, oh my God, I have meaning,I have a purpose, I have work to
do.
All this stuff was adistraction.
It was helpful on the way and Ilearned a lot of things, but.
This stuff is a destruction.
I got things to do, and I'veseen that in 30 year olds and 40
year olds and 50 year olds and60 year olds and 70 year olds.

(01:08:26):
I've sat with 70 year olds, a70-year-old woman who woke up
from her journey.
She was like night and day.
That's when energy flows.
That's when energy flows, andthat's when you learn that
energy does not come fromcaffeine or sleep.
It comes through if you'realigned and your energy source
is moving through.
'Cause once you understand it,you realize like the whole
collective talk.

(01:08:47):
It does not matter.
Like we can point fingers and wecan try to change it and we can
say we wanna do all thesethings.
None of that fucking mattersuntil you actually work on
yourself.
So it's a ripple because onceyou come online and you do the
work, someone else sees that andthen maybe they mirror you or
they learn and that's how thecollective change.
It's not through pointingfingers and this, that, and the

(01:09:08):
third.
It's through embodied personalradical responsibility.
And it's not, it's like funsometimes, and it's also painful
sometimes.
But yeah, there's a whole teamsupporting you physically and
non physically that's there.
That's really like the journeythat I've learned.
I can tell you're, you are veryembodied.

(01:09:28):
You feel very embodied.
I can tell that within you,There is space.
Yeah.
To hold.
I can, I can feel you holdingthe space.
I can feel you.
Presence and your ability totune into what is happening in
the field in this moment.

(01:09:49):
And that's really beautiful.
I know that's such a gift toyour clients to, for them to
feel seen.
Yeah.
I think that's one of the bestgifts we can give one another.
It is to hold space for thatanother person to feel like oh,
I feel seen.
I feel heard.
That's, I feel they wanna behelped.
Yeah, absolutely.

(01:10:09):
That's definitely, half the timeI used to be, I have a Virgo
moon, so I used to be like, Ineed structure.
I need to do this.
When I was priming for myclients and starting my business
and I was so concerned of allthese things, right?
And I was trying to tie in thenutrition, the neuroscience,
the, and I was I was blocking mymagic, right?
By being so concerned how to doit.

(01:10:30):
What I've learned over time is.
It's really just holding spacefor people.
They need to be heard and theywant to be seen, and they, it's
allowing them to unravel infront of you and to be able to
hold them and to help them pullback and pull back the pieces
that are meant to stay and thepieces that aren't to allow them
to really let them go andredirect them wherever they need

(01:10:52):
to, guidance that they need.
But like you said, it's, youcan't tell'em what to do.
We already know what to do.
We have all the information atour fingertips.
Why don't we do it?
That's where we come in and wehelp guide that because there's
no way, we just can't be toldwhat to do.
There's no way.
It just don't work.
It don't work on me.
It's not gonna work on you.
We have to want it for sure.

(01:11:13):
Yeah.
Who we try to tell children whatto do.
I tried to tell my 16-year-oldwhat to do and he looks at me
like, listen.
Honey, I know I call you mom andall, you know what I'm saying?
And that's cool.
Thank you for giving me birthand providing food for me on it
every day, but I really don'twant you telling me what to do.
And any children are like thatfrom as soon as they could talk.

(01:11:33):
They're like, I'll do it.
And no, that's the first wordthat a young child learns is
like, Hey, why don't you know?
Yeah.
So we should get it.
Like it's no need for us to tellother people what to do.
That's not how we learn.
Unfortunately, that's theprogram of the Matrix, right?
That's why there's so manychildren now bucking the

(01:11:54):
traditional school systembecause these new children are
like no, nah.
You can't get in here and tellme what to do and want me to
memorize this and memorize that,and why, and where did that come
from and how do we know it'sreal?
Like these children?
They are calling forth theshifts.
They are.
I think that the healing thatwe've been partaking into,
that's changing the genetic lineand then also just something

(01:12:16):
that's beyond our understandingis coming in and the
consciousness level is a lotbigger for sure, and a lot
bigger and stronger.
I'm so excited though to seewhat happens and what lets to
partake.
I know that some people mighthear this convo and be like,
damn.
And other people might feelcalled forth.
So how do people get in touchwith your Omni now?

(01:12:37):
Oh, yes, you could find me.
I'm like really old school, I'mtrying to come into the new
technology, but I'm still like,Hey, send me a text.
But I realize I can't hey, sendme a text over on podcast so you
can find me on Instagram.
I'm, I try to be as vocal as Ican on there, I have to take
retreat too.
I'm at Goddess G-O-D-I-S-S.

(01:13:02):
Dot Anita, A-M-A-N-I-T-A.
You can find me over at Goddessspot, G-O-D-I-S-S-S-P-O
t.com/enter-temple, which is mynew membership community that is

(01:13:23):
coming online for those womenwho are interested in deepening
their spiritual connection,their spiritual tools.
They want to be in a communityof women who are stepping a
little bit outside of theconfines.
Perfect lineup from the combo.
By the way, I need to join themembership too perfect.

(01:13:46):
It's all gonna be in the shownotes.
So yes, it's all gonna be in theshow notes.
I'm not sure when this is gonnacome out, but I'm sure by the
time this comes out that themembership will be up and out
and moving in the world.
Yeah, but come check me out onInstagram.
Send me a dm.
I'm super approachable.
I love one-to-one.
I'm still very personal, right?
Like just when we met, it's oh,there's a room full of 30

(01:14:07):
people.
I'm just gonna take time andtalk to every single person and
see if there's a channel comingthrough.
And yeah, we're gonna be in herefor three, four hours, but what
else do we can, I know you werelike, I'm on a time crunch.
So I was like, okay.
Like expecting, I didn't knowwhat to expect.
And then it was like five hourslater, I was like, how long have
we been in the vortex?
And I just came out of a crazyrelease too.

(01:14:28):
Like a crazy release rightbefore you got there.
So I was like I'm gonna go take,I'm a nap.
Oh yes.
I think I was walking in justwhen you were having the end of
your moment.
Yes.
Yeah.
It was intense.
It was all aligned though.
It was all aligned.
You were definitely meant tocome.
I'm so grateful.
I'm so grateful that we got tohave this conversation and just
really got to know each othermore through the podcast too.

(01:14:51):
And I'm so excited for everybodywho's gonna listen.
Do you have anything else youwanna say before we tune off of
here?
I think the last thing I wouldleave is for anyone who is
listening, you are love.
You always been loved.

(01:15:12):
You always will be loved.
You are loved beyond measure.
Love is holding you.
Love is gonna be there to catchyou.
Love is always the answer.
So I just want people to knowyou are love and you are loved.
That's beautiful.
Yeah, it's a good reminder.
I remember you said it to me, Iwas like, oh my God.

(01:15:35):
Because we don't hear it thatmuch as we get older, and maybe
we aren't in a place to evenremember that.
But you are loved withoutconditions.
Yeah.
Just you being you right now.
So it's a beautiful reminder.
Thank you Anita, thanks so muchfor bringing your just energy
and your grace and yourknowledge.
Seriously.
Your knowledge is so abundantand beautiful and your wisdom,

(01:15:56):
and I'm so excited to see wherethis new transformation and
this, evolution of you goes.
Thank you.
Thank you so much for having me.
Thank you for allowing me tojust witness you.
Yeah, absolutely.
You're pretty magical my love.
Oh, thank you so much.
If you're still here, stillbreathing, still integrating

(01:16:18):
everything that just movedthrough this conversation.
Take a moment.
This wasn't just an interview,it was a whole spiritual
recalibration.
I.
A Anita reminded us of what somany of us forget in the chaos
of healing, doing, performing,and trying to get it right that
your relationship to sourceisn't something that you have to
earn.

(01:16:38):
It's already inside of you, andsometimes it just takes a few
sacred tools, a little breath,and a whole lot of permission to
trust it again.
If today's episode stirredsomething in you, share it with
someone who needs to hear it,and don't forget to check the
show notes to connect with Amitato join her Inner Temple
membership, or just slide in herdms and let her know what
landed.

(01:17:02):
As always, if this podcast ispart of your healing journey, it
would mean the world to me.
If you left a review subscribedor shared your favorite moment
on IG and tag me.
Until next time, trust yourbody, trust your spirit, and for
the love of all things holy, letyourself receive.
Talk to you next week.
Love you.
Got this.

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