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February 14, 2025 15 mins

Master the art of community and coffee culture in Raleigh's vibrant Five Points neighborhood on the Good Neighbor Podcast. Join host Nichole Mondshein as she sits down with Third Place Coffee Shop owners David Benson and Jenny Johnston, who share the rich history and community-driven mission behind their beloved establishment. From Jenny's journey from loyal customer to co-owner to the concept of the "third place" where people can gather and enjoy a sense of family, this episode offers a delightful look into the heart of Raleigh's coffee culture and inclusive community spirit. 

Discover the hidden gems of Raleigh, as David and Jenny share their experiences navigating the city's rapid growth and their dedication to community involvement. They also extend a warm invitation to visit their coffee shop and try their popular breakfast burrito, making this episode a must-listen for any coffee lover or community enthusiast.

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
This is the Good Neighbor Podcast, the place
where local businesses andneighbors come together.
Here's your host, NicoleMomschein.

Speaker 2 (00:13):
Hi everyone.
It is your executive producerand host of the Good Neighbor
Podcast, right here in theResearch Triangle, where we
spotlight businesses, charities,nonprofits you name it right
here from Raleigh, durham andChapel Hill and everywhere in
between and today's guest.
If you are looking for arun-of-the-mill mom-and-pop
coffee shop, well, today's guestdoesn't quite fit that bill.

(00:34):
But if you are looking for aunique, cozy, eccentric
environment, then Third PlaceCoffee Shop will do just the job
.
Please join me in welcomingDavid Benson, andenson and jenny
johnson to our podcast.
Thank you guys, so much forbeing here today thank you, yeah
of course.
So let's go ahead and kickthings off.
So go ahead and tell us aboutwhat makes third place a third

(00:56):
place coffee shop so specialwell, it's a neighborhood coffee
shop.

Speaker 3 (01:00):
It's been in business around 30 years, 31 years right
?

Speaker 4 (01:03):
Well, it'll be 31 this year, so we just turned 30
in November.

Speaker 3 (01:07):
Yeah, so I've owned it, for we've owned it for like
20 years and 21 years right,yeah, 21 years.
And we serve the localcommunity here in Five Points
and whoever else wants to come,and we have an eclectic mix of
people that come to the coffeeshop to hang out and have coffee

(01:30):
, and the whole concept of thethird place was you have home,
you have work, and then you havea third place where you go and
hang out and just chill out, andso that's where the name
originated from, and we try tolive that every day to uh make

(01:56):
it a neighborhood thing?

Speaker 4 (01:57):
that's probably the most frequently asked question
we get.
Why is it called the thirdplace?

Speaker 2 (02:00):
yeah, people ask us that all the time I love that.
I love the meaning behind it,and now let's get into how did
both of you guys get involved?
I feel like I read somewhere,david, that you took it over in
the early 2000s.
Is that correct?

Speaker 3 (02:12):
Yes, 2004.
I took it over in March of 2004and been there ever since.
So, yeah, it's a, it's a, it'sa great livelihood.

Speaker 4 (02:26):
And I've been a customer there since it opened,
and because I lived, I grew upin Raleigh and I grew up in this
neighborhood.
And then I met Dave and I cameon board with him in August of
2014.
So I've been there for a littleover 10 years, yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:46):
I love that.
It's a really cool experiencethat you went from just being
just a client and a customer tohelp run the business.
That's really really cool.
You don't hear about that often.

Speaker 4 (02:56):
No, I'm really lucky.
It's really really really funto go from that side over to
behind the counter.

Speaker 3 (03:05):
It's definitely different for me as a customer.
Actually, I'm the lucky one tohave her on board because she
has turned it around and made ita viable thing and made it so I
can enjoy it more.

Speaker 2 (03:19):
That's awesome, that's really sweet.
And then usually I'll ask youknow, what are your target
clients or consumers?
But I'm sure you want everyoneto be your consumer.
So let me kind of rephrase thisquestion is what's your
favorite thing or what do you?
What do you think really setsthird place coffee shop Make,
makes it so unique and sets itapart from other you know

(03:41):
similar coffee shops.

Speaker 3 (03:43):
That's a good question.

Speaker 4 (03:46):
I think a lot of it has to do with that.
Everyone is welcome period.
End of discussion.
We don't get into involved inany kind of like neighborhood
politics or any of that, becausewe don't want people to feel
like they can't come in ifthey're on one side or the other
.
We have blue collar people thatcome in, white collar people
that come in, students in highschool, college collar people
that come in, white collarpeople that come in, students in

(04:07):
high school college, peoplethat come in to study for the
LSAT and the MCAT and all thosethings.
We have retirees that come inand it's really neat because
people see children grow up inthere and then they come in with
their kids.
I mean I know he's seen that.
I mean I was a teenager when Ifirst started going in there and

(04:27):
look, I'm still in there now.

Speaker 3 (04:30):
You hired quite a few of the kids who grew up there.

Speaker 4 (04:33):
Yeah, and we have people that we hired in high
school come in from college towork for us when they're him on
break, and then some of them,when they need extra money and
they're in their 30s, they stillcome back and work for us too.
We call them our children.
They're like our children.

Speaker 2 (04:50):
It sounds like a fantastic family that you guys
have built, not only with yourstaff and your employees, but
with the community as well.

Speaker 3 (05:06):
Yeah, that was the whole goal.
The third place was to justmake it part of the community
and you know, make it familyoriented, and so we love that
part we have right now.

Speaker 4 (05:21):
We have some antique rugs yeah, middle Eastern rugs
up that one of our customersoccasionally will put up.
We sell a couple of differentartists prints, we have a lady
that makes jewelry and we have alady that makes candles,
t-shirts, we have all kinds ofstuff, and then we sell an
assortment of gifts as well.

Speaker 3 (05:41):
So Plus coffee.

Speaker 4 (05:43):
Yeah, plus coffee and food, lots and lots of food.

Speaker 2 (05:47):
I know I was on y'all's website beforehand and I
was looking at your menu.
It looks, everything looksfantastic.
I was getting hungry justlooking at it, so thank you.
Yeah, are there any would yousay there are any myths or
misconceptions about what youguys do?

Speaker 3 (06:05):
I think the biggest misconception is people think
they can bring their dogs in.
Yeah, and we're a restaurant.
You know you can't take yourdogs to Stanberry's or you know
one of those nice restaurants wedo have people do that a lot.

Speaker 4 (06:19):
As far as business goes, though, I are like coffee.
We don't do pour overs we don'tdo those.
We can't make them consistently.
People don't understand that.
They think it's better, butonly if you have the same person
making it every single time.
Yeah, and that's probably.
I guess a lot of people takethat for granted, cause, you

(06:41):
know, like Americans, I feellike until recently we're very
chain dependent and now peopleare really starting to embrace
local things.
But local restaurants need tostill have consistency and I
don't think that that'ssomething that's on customers
minds until it is right, likehow come when makes my burrito

(07:03):
it's got way more cheese on it,right?
Well, that's one of the biggeststruggles that we have is
getting consistency withoutlosing the charm, right?
yeah, exactly, yeah yeah, it's astruggle for real.

Speaker 3 (07:15):
Yeah, I mean that's it right there in the next row
and how much cups cost.
Oh, cup, yes, yeah, yes yeah,and now the whole plastic versus
paper straw debate and all thatand how much cups cost.

Speaker 2 (07:22):
Oh, cups, yes, yeah, yes, yeah.
And now the whole plasticversus paper straw debate and
all that.

Speaker 3 (07:27):
Yeah, we've gone through that.
We went to paper straws andpeople complained more about the
paper straws than they didabout the plastic straws.
I mean, it's not the easiestthing to do.
No, you really have to bediplomatic.
You can't please everybody, butwe certainly try.

Speaker 4 (07:46):
Yeah, he's definitely better at that than me.

Speaker 2 (07:50):
Well, it sounds like you guys are doing a fantastic
job, since you know you bothhave been involved.
I mean, Jenny, you've beeninvolved over a decade, David,
you've been involved for atleast 20 plus years, so
obviously you left your mark inthe community.
But now I want to know.
I mean, I know a little bitabout it, but for our listeners
who don't know, please tell usabout the acorn, the infamous

(08:10):
Raleigh acorn that you guys doevery year.

Speaker 4 (08:13):
That's him.
He does that.
I just schedule stuff for him.

Speaker 3 (08:19):
About the time the third place before the third
place opened, I got a commissionto make Icon for the city of
Raleigh, which is Acorn, and soI made that in 1991 for the 1992
bicentennial celebration forthe city of Raleigh.
And so I kind of you know,people ask me about it all the

(08:45):
time, so I try to get it alltogether.
You know, keep it with thethird place and you know, I
don't know, it's just somethingI do every year.
I polish it and clean it forthe city of Raleigh.
I made it, I polish it andclean it for the city of Raleigh
, I made it.

Speaker 4 (09:03):
So, yeah, we live in the neighborhood as well, and so
every December it's in front ofour house.

Speaker 3 (09:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (09:12):
And customers will bring their kids by to like
touch it.
You know where it's on display.
You can't really like reach itthe rest of the year Right,
reach it um, the rest of theyear right.
And so, um, people you know itlike creates quite a frenzy and
a traffic jam, um, becauseeveryone's trying to get you
know up our street to look at it.

Speaker 2 (09:29):
So how does it feel to be such a mainstay, not only
the coffee shop but also, youknow, with the acorn.
How does it feel to have such aI don't know importance and I
guess, the raleigh culture?

Speaker 3 (09:42):
Well, it just makes me feel like I am part of the
community.
I feel like I belong.
So that's really been.
The greatest benefit that I'vereceived from having made the
acorn and owning a coffee shopis that I feel like I'm really
part of the community and that Ifit in and that we fit in.
So it's a good feeling.
No-transcript.

Speaker 4 (10:32):
Easier said than done sometimes, but yes, One of the
reasons I will say this I lostmy point One of the reasons I'm
so happy you asked us to do thisis because Raleigh has seen an
influx of people really, I meanfor the last like probably 25
years, but really since COVID.

(10:53):
And what we're seeing is, youknow, everybody knew we were
around because we were like oneof the first coffee shops in
Raleigh, but now there's so manynew people and Glenwood Avenue,
the street that we're locatedon, is so crazy busy.
People drive by and they don'teven know we exist.
You know people will come inand they'll be like what?
Like?
we didn't know.

(11:13):
Y'all were here Like peoplethat live in the neighborhood,
and so it's anytime we can getourselves out there.
We try to, because there's somany new people in Raleigh, so
many, so if you want to come,come see us.

Speaker 2 (11:27):
Yes, I definitely will next time.
I don't make my way to Raleighoften, but when I do, I will
definitely head up there nexttime.
Let's change gears a little bitNow.
I always love to ask thisquestion what do our guests love
to do?
Everyone has their nine to five, but for your five to nine, or
on the weekends, what do youlove to do for fun?
Whether are there some go-tospots in the research triangle
that you love to hit up, whetherit's the mountains, the beach,

(11:49):
what do you guys love to do forfun?

Speaker 4 (11:52):
Beach.
Yeah, we have a beach place inMyrtle beach and we go there at
least once a month.
Um, we are so lucky to be ableto do that.
For years we were not able todo that because we because we
were busy working at the thirdplace, but now we have a very
dedicated staff and so we'reable to enjoy our weekends a
little bit more, but as far aswhen we're in Raleigh.

Speaker 3 (12:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (12:13):
Well.

Speaker 3 (12:14):
I like to go to the Y occasionally.

Speaker 4 (12:16):
We love to go to the Alexander Y.
We love them.
We go there all the time.
Where else do we go?
Where do we go?

Speaker 3 (12:25):
eat.
We like J Betsky's we do loveJay Betsky's.
It's a neighbor, it's in ourneighborhood, so we go there and
we go to Hayes Barton yeah.

Speaker 4 (12:34):
We go to Hayes Barton play.
What is it called?
Hayes Barton cafe?
Yeah and um, but Stanbury too,we love that place, stanbury's
is good, it's great.

Speaker 3 (12:48):
Uh, yeah, uh, what else?

Speaker 4 (12:49):
would we do for fun?
Oh, we go to players retreatall the time.
Oh yeah, the pr.
Yeah, we were there.
A lot too, that's about it.

Speaker 3 (12:53):
We have dogs.
We have a couple dogs.
Jj's really big on the yard.

Speaker 2 (12:56):
Yes, I'm really big on putting stuff in the yard
that she's like out of the yardand, and a lot of people don't
know unless you're from here,you live here, but there's so
much amazing just like greeneryaround here.
There's such amazing parksaround here, trails, you name it
, so that we have such a greatnature scene too here, which is

(13:18):
great.

Speaker 3 (13:19):
Yeah, I ride my bike on the Greenway a lot and it's
incredible how large theGreenway system is here in
Raleigh.

Speaker 4 (13:26):
Yeah, it's incredible how large the greenway system
is here in Raleigh yeah.

Speaker 3 (13:28):
I think there's over a hundred miles, at least easily
over a hundred miles of trails.

Speaker 4 (13:33):
It's great, and you will not find a more beautiful
place than Raleigh, especiallylike Hayes, barton and Five
Points in the springtime is themost beautiful place of all time
.
All the flowers and everyonetakes care of their yards.
It's beautiful, it's beautiful.

Speaker 2 (13:48):
Love that.
And as we start to wind thingsdown for today, are there
anything that you want ourlisteners to take away from you
know, whether it's somethingthat you do or third place
coffee shop, what do you wantour listeners to really take
away?

Speaker 3 (14:02):
We have a killer breakfast burrito.

Speaker 4 (14:07):
If you want something to start your day and make you
happy, come see us.

Speaker 3 (14:10):
Yeah, come see us hang out and we'll have fun.

Speaker 2 (14:14):
I love that.
And then what's the best placefor them to reach out or get to
know more information?
What's your website?
Things like that.

Speaker 4 (14:22):
Thirdplacerallycom.

Speaker 3 (14:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (14:24):
And then any of our social media.
We use Instagram a lot.
That's our first place that wego Instagram Facebook we're on
there as well.
But, our website's a good placeIf someone wants to send us a
question directly.
Artists are interested inputting things in the shop.
They can contact us there.
But we love it.

(14:44):
We love hearing from ourcustomers and we, of course,
have a comment box at the shop,so if you're there and have
anything, we check thatfrequently as well.
Awesome.

Speaker 2 (14:55):
Well, David and Jenny , it was an absolute pleasure
having you today, especially onthis gloomy day.
I don't know if it's supergloomy where you're at, but it's
really gloomy.
It's super gloomy.
We just brought the sunshinetoday.
Super gloomy, super gloomy.
Yeah, nicole, you guys broughtthe sunshine today.
It was a pleasure having youNext time in Raleigh.
I will definitely check it outbecause I've heard nothing but
great things and I can just feelthe passion through the
computer about what you guys doand how much love you have for

(15:16):
it.

Speaker 3 (15:17):
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (15:18):
Of course.
So, viewers, we will see youguys here for the next Good
Neighbor podcast.
We'll see you here next time.

Speaker 3 (15:27):
Bye here for the next Good Neighbor podcast.

Speaker 1 (15:28):
We'll see you here next time.
Bye, okay, bye-bye.
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