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Stop asking questions. Where are you going?
I have a thing live. That's what you were waiting for
that won't you? Welcome to having the chats with
Peter and Sophia. In this week's episode, we have
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the pleasure of sitting with theDoctor blogging Sweeney.
Doctor B Doctor B is me, right? So thank you so very much.
You're very welcome. Thank.
You. For saying yes to do this.
So as Steve was saying earlier, there's a lot of words in your
CV and your bio that like we can't pronounce.
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And I didn't have a clue. You're even a doctor.
You're just like, chill, cool. Blowing to me.
Like that's that's it. You're blowing with the
meditation, yoga. Yeah.
Can you be with the breath work and all that you do?
So can you kind of let people know who you are and what you do
just a little and then we'll probe your questions.
OK, great. Yeah.
So the doctor, it's not like a medical doctor doesn't make
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really clear, but it's I've donea PhD in synthetic organic
chemistry. Yeah.
So that's that's where I get thedoctor from.
PhD at the end of the name or doctor at the front.
Let's say you capture that. Can you say that again?
What? A PhD in synthetic organic
chemistry. Organic Chemistry.
What is that? OK, so you know when you've got
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in, in, in chemistry, there's organic chemistry and organic
chemistry and physical chemistry.
Physical chemistry is the study of stuff that every, I could
never, it's like physics. It's just the brain just never
went there. Like I could do chemistry.
But then anyway, umm. So organic chemistry is the
synthesis of what you would knowto be the active ingredients in
many pharmaceuticals. And what it refers to is carbon
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based molecules. So any molecule which is most
molecules which are have a carbon structure and then they
have different functional groupsaround us, that's your organic
chemistry. Inorganic then which do heavy
metals are? Yeah, another side of things,
so. What I'd be right in saying that
we are based carbon like yes? Human, yes, yeah.
Like everything you eat, like you, your carbohydrates, your
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sugars, all of that's carbon structures.
And then that goes into your body, gets broken down with the
mitochondria, releases energy, you exhales carbon dioxide now
goes back out to the trees. So it's like, yeah, yes.
So that's the carbon cycle goes through your body.
How in God's name did you get into that?
Science degree. And then I found myself enjoying
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studying chemistry and not wanting to study anything else.
Yeah, I remember it was a secondyear realizing, oh, I like
chemistry. That's weird.
Second year in college is what, 2019?
19 and you were, Yeah, 19. I like chemistry.
Wow. That's yeah.
Well, you do it in your leaf insert as well, you know.
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Let's be honest, I taught myself3 subjects in a prison system.
You might have gone further in your business if you studied
chemistry. But yeah, so.
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So you studied chemistry and then you liked it?
Yeah, yeah, yeah. My third year of college, I was
just doing all chemistry. I kind of dropped the other
because you can do that. Like you just start focusing on
an area. And then I did 4 years of
chemistry. That's a degree.
So yeah. And then I still was kind of
like, I was still a fairy like, so I was, I was done, let's do
my chemistry and really enjoyingit.
And then it's like, So what do you do after college?
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And people like, oh, you either do a PhD or you get work.
I'm like, what's a PhD? Not the clue.
That's the clue what a PhD was. And I wanted to travel.
So I talked to my supervisor. I think we had to go talk to a
lecturer who wasn't my supervisor at the time.
And he was asking me, yeah, whatdo you want to do?
And I was like, I don't know. I just know I want to travel.
And he's like, well, it's actually, and I like the thought
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of going to Australia. So he goes, well there's
actually a research project, they're looking for a six month
research project in the university in Brisbane, Griffith
University, and they're looking for somebody to come over and do
this project for six months. And I was like totally great,
yeah, I'll do that. So I got a working visa, took
off to Australia for nine monthsaltogether to work for six
months and then travelled for three after that.
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What age are you in? 2120. 1.
That's my daughter's age now. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I didn't have a clue. What?
I want to do 21. Yeah, 21.
You had a. 3 year old kid in 20.One, but I felt it was all just
kind of like sure, I'll try that.
Like I wasn't like I wasn't absolutely you're all super
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focused. It was just like, oh, So what I
do next? OK, I'll do that.
So. So did you kind of still have
that same way? So like, I had no view of like,
now don't take this the wrong way, but a little hairy fairy
just go with flow. Yeah.
Were you kind of still like thatback then?
Just yeah, yeah, yeah. Opportunity we'll just go with.
That yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, I'm sure annoyingly so to
my family, like, but yeah, like.But it worked out well.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah.
And actually that wasn't until the winter.
That was when I found out what aPhD was because there was lots
of people doing PhDs in the lab.I'm like, so what's this you're
doing? How come you're here?
Are you on like a six month job thing as well?
And they're like, no, we're doing our PhDs and like, Oh,
yeah, of course. And you wanted a piece of that?
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I love the research, love the research because you don't like
so PhD in chemistry and there's different towards masters and
PhDs. You can do a different areas and
subjects and it can be exam based, but most of them are
project based. Well, chemistry, it's lab work.
So you're in the lab, you're mixing chemicals, you're
analyzing. I love the analysis.
I loved like, I love the research aspect of it.
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I love doing something that no one's ever done before.
Like, absolutely not at all interesting to anybody even
remotely outside your research group.
But it's new. You know, it's like you're,
you're figuring out something new that hasn't been figured out
before. Yeah.
Yeah. So I love that.
And I was like, I could do this.Like I could definitely do more
of this. And it's like, you might want to
do a PhD. I'm like, oh, yeah.
What's that Like? You do this for four years and
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then you come out with the doctor like, yeah, yeah, yeah,
yeah, yeah. And did you go over to Australia
in your own? Umm, it did, yeah.
Yeah. But I had the job set up.
Yeah, I had accommodation set up, and then I got friendly with
girls in the lab and I ended up living one of the girls,
Shelley. She was lovely, Yes.
We hung out for the whole time and had her weekends off
together and yeah, yeah, had a cool time.
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Yeah. Her mom had a She was a
helicopter pilot. Wow.
SeaWorld. Yeah.
So we've got a trip up and down the coast.
No. Good times.
Yeah, Good people. You have that personality,
though, like, you adapt to people around you.
Like, yeah, you'd get on no matter where you go.
Yeah. Yeah.
You know, you'd just probably. Yeah, give a good energy.
I remember, like, the day we seen you on the boat trip I was
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looking at. You were just dancing around,
you know, I want to be just likeblogging.
I said they're stiff. You're looking around me and
you're just floating around likethis little fairy.
I was like. I want to be like.
That I didn't know. Yeah, bearing in mind this was a
sober boat pack. That means why I was there.
And I was hiding downstairs. I'm not dancing.
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Yeah, but the energy off, yeah, I want that.
But it's like just letting the eagle go in it, like just, yeah,
not fully dissolving, but it's kind of like.
It's kind of yeah. It's just, yeah, just better
enjoy this because it's not going to last forever, so.
Yeah, well, I love that. I really do love that.
Yeah, you always have that attitude.
I think so, yeah. Yeah.
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Like I probably like times too horizontal to know.
Just like, oh, yeah, this is great.
And then it's like, see other people shooting on head and they
call sugar and I'm meant to be actually making progress in my
life. Like I better get on it.
Like I love you're meant to be making progress.
Yeah, I know. I get that.
But there's also, there's no harm getting nudges every now
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and again as well. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And sometimes anxiety I felt or I've experienced sometimes
anxiety. It's hard to say this because it
sounds like you could hear it wrong if you're in a vulnerable
place. But sometimes anxiety is your
soul telling you there's more for you than this.
Do you know? I agree with that.
Yeah, I'd agree with that too aswell.
It's like it's kind of that kicker that push that like it's,
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yeah, there's I suppose. Would it be like the anxiety of
fear that's like holding you back?
And it's like, come on, you got it.
Yeah. It's your body telling you
there's more than you can do here.
You've got more potential. Here, Yeah, yeah.
Yeah. Did you have any sort of a fear
or anxiety or a sort of a apprehension or anything when
you heading to Australia at thatyoung age?
Wow. No, just young men.
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Yeah, I. Knew you wanted it.
Yeah, yeah. Oh, I thought that guy was going
to set up a life in Australia. I'm going to live there, like,
but yeah, I enjoyed it, but it wasn't.
I was happy to come home, very happy to come home, actually.
And the more I went away, the more it was like everything I
was looking for a way is actually here.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's mad.
You can like no matter where yougo into a lot of places, no
matter where you go, you're taking right, which is not the
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place. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
The mindset, yeah. So do you like as Doctor B
Doctor blowing? I didn't know you were a doctor.
So you don't actually advertise on anything that you do as
you're a doctor. Yeah, Why?
Well, I suppose I think there is.
I do have PhD on my website, butthere can be a misunderstanding.
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Dr. Blowing Sweeney, doing yoga or doing mindfulness or doing
anything like that. There could be assumption that
I'm a medical doctor, that I've got more.
I don't want to put myself out there as having more advice to
give than I do. Do you know what I mean?
Say in your lane, as you'd say, it's just like, it just gives an
impression. And yeah.
But that is your lane, is it not?
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I'm not a medical. Doctor, No, no.
But no, no, no. But like, the knowledge you have
that you actually incorporate into your Wellness.
Yeah. Into your yoga, into your
meditations. Like they're for what?
But they're science based. You bring in the science.
Yeah, I do. Yeah.
Of yoga. Yeah.
Like, that's what makes it interesting when you're doing
it. You know what's happening, You
know what's activating. Like you did, you facilitated a
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day we were at. It was the vagal nerve.
And like, while we were doing these, like for all the better
way, it was a chanting like workshop.
There was a workshop chanting. But if you call it that, people
would determine, yeah, yeah, yeah.
So the way you describe that much, you did with it, with
science. It's like you're a doctor.
You're a doctor of yoga. Yeah, yeah.
You're a doctor of Wellness. That workshop was beautiful that
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day. It was like the angels singing
wasn't, and that was all our ownvoices and energy.
And even at the end of tears coming down my face, I was like,
this is so powerful. But that's because you created
that space for everyone. You made it.
You made it what it was. It was really.
Beautiful. I think it's like, like I've
been to lots of really beautifully held gatherings and
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I love them and I go all the time.
But when I was much younger, like back the girl of Adolf to
Australia and that I would have been, I wouldn't have not to do
myself in those situations. And if we'd just gone straight
into the the arm at the end thatwe did at the very end, it's
like, now we tricked you. This is an arm work.
Yeah. I wouldn't have got it because
my mind would want to understand, like, what's the
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point of this? And that was my cynical head.
It's just like, what's the pointof this?
Why are we doing it? It's not enough just to do it
and experience it. Now I'm better actually let
myself experience and experiencesomething first before trying to
analyze and take it apart. But I really had to like train
myself to stop approaching something new that way.
And but when I teach, I know there's people like me out there
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that have to understand why, whyare we doing this?
And then when I started discovering the wise, I'm like,
Oh my God, how can I not teach it?
Like, you know, so. Yeah.
Yeah. So I couldn't.
Yeah. Not that I couldn't.
I just love. Yeah.
I love teaching it. I love explaining.
Like we're not just humming for the sake of humming, and we're
not almond for the sake of it's been part of some doctrine or
religion or anything like that. It's because it literally
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enhances the quality of your ownbody to do this, to vocalize.
Yeah. And I think that makes people
more present than, doesn't it? Because they understand why
they're doing it and what is creating for them.
Yeah, I think like when we firstwent into that workshop, like I
was looking around, I was thinking because like I'd be
very awkward like that if there's other people in the
room, like I'm not. But by the end of it, I was
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like, wow, I had no choice for to let go.
It's the way you like, yeah the way like you hosted the class or
they say they're the workshop. It was just I felt so safe and I
felt like I can do this because you explained it so perfectly.
Do you know I wasn't the person next to me was doing is.
I didn't care because I was in my own.
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Zone and it was beautiful yeah. And safe like that's that's the
keyword like and that's the whole crux of the vagus nerve is
it's your center of safety and when you've got healthy tone on
it, then you feel safe. And I think yeah, there's kind
of a misunderstanding and I wentinto it a little bit.
But when we're talking about like Cam and Cam and the nervous
system, we kind of interpret that as all we have to be in a
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state of relaxed and chilled outand all that.
But a healthy nervous system also allows you to be
enthusiastic and excited and like not able to sit down.
And the center point between those two states is that state
of safety. And when you have the safety,
then you can get excited withoutit being like destabilizing, or
you can get relaxed without it being subdued or, you know,
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removing yourself from from the world.
What does do to you? Right.
So like people think I know before I started this journey I
would have thought chanting was like woo Hoo like woo
witchcraft, the like. People going around the fire.
Yeah, you. Know what I?
Mean I don't do any of that. We know you do do that, right?
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Now we understand it now though.Now we understand it, but what
like, what does it do to you? So if anyone's listening to this
or watching this, right? And they're like, what the hell
are they on Champing? And on what will it actually do
for a person? OK, gosh, yeah, it's it's hard
to we do the full hour now of workshop.
It's hard to summarize though. And I suppose the first thing I
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ever heard about the arm is thatit's the sound of the universe.
So and beyond that, I couldn't actually add more words to that,
only to try and put my own wordson it.
It's the sound of the universe. So that was like, oh, that's
interesting, I like that. But then what it does, how you
can use it, I suppose the way I understand it, the way I engage
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with this is it's in one part. I'm sure there's, there's others
out there that there's so much more to it.
But we'll come back just to the Physiology.
It's that creating of the different vocalization sound.
So there's three parts to the arm, the R, the kind of an oh,
and then the M, the M at the end.
So those different vibrations inyour own body.
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So when you vocalize anything, you create a vibration in your
body. And that vibration tones your
nervous system, but it also affects the surface of your
cells, which is a whole other talk that you didn't go to that
you might do on Tuesday. So when you create at least
those 3 sounds, you're creating a vibration or you're, you're,
you're enlivening your nervous system to vibrate so that you
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actually become a signal. This is how I feel about it when
I'm doing it. Now, again, I don't know.
It's a non evidence based fact, this one.
As a scientist, I have to say that this is just how I imagine
it must work. So yeah, you, you're creating
your own vibration through thosesounds.
So it's on as the sound of the universe.
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The way I understand it is you're you're switching on your
own signal so that you can be heard or seen by the universe.
You're making yourself present or no?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm here, yeah.
We live in a world today where we don't allow ourselves show up
as an authentic self because thejudgment.
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Yeah. But the judgment comes from
within, because we're so busy judging everyone else that we
allow ourselves to feel judged by everyone else.
Yeah, yeah. I wonder where we do it.
Like, isn't it because it's justlike ways of chipping bits of
yourself off? We just say all the time we're
not going judging people anymorebecause only judging and said
two days later, it's like we're looking at this and this and
we're judging it again. But it is.
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It's because we're not feeling good within ourselves at the
time. It's not even judgment out of
nastiness or criticism or anything like that.
It's because like, so I'd look at stuff.
So I have a very, I have a fear,not a fear.
I suppose I hold myself back on social media and I need to use
social media for my coaching. It's just how it goes.
And so I found myself looking atother people's videos on social
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media and going getting the cringy, icky feelings.
I was like, oh, you know, And then I know where that's come
from. It's nothing to do with that
person and their video. And it's everything to do with
me not having the courage and the, yeah, the courage to do
that video that I need to do myself.
So I've had to find that. And then I learned early in to
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get rid of judgement. It's curiosity.
Curiosity. Yeah, yeah.
Get curiosity. Ask.
Questions and then you. Will know what you're judging,
what you're answering, but yeah,you said why do we do that?
We're I think I think right. I think that on a daily basis
we're continually getting programmed by everything around
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us, by media, by news, by socialmedia, by mainstream media, by
everything. If we can, as a human race, stay
divided, we will never come together in a feeling of love.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's it.
Yeah, the base of many. Different ways we can be told
we're different to each other. Yeah, yeah.
And not so many ways we're told we're similar.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We all come into this world the
exact same. I know.
Like we all look different at different point, but we are the
same. We're to know.
Exactly. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's the in between bits that F was off like.
Yeah, so a lovely one I heard aswell as about the soul.
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So like so I started Reiki and Ibelieve in the energy centres
and it makes sense to me that weare energy.
So just like your heart is the centre of your cardiovascular
system, if we have an energy field and there must be energy
centres, like it just makes logical sense to me.
So, and there's some, some evidence, there's definitely
evidence of an energy field around us and there's some
evidence of these centres. So when we're doing Reiki, it's
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like, it's like, I would say like a daily shower, like you'd
have your shower every day. A Reiki cleanse every day is
always good because you're always picking up like so the
energy around you to right now in this room is different
because you're there. If you weren't here, it would be
different. So you, your energy affects the
room, but you're also affected by the energies that you come in
contact with. You walk down through town, have
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an energy cleanse afterwards, you know, because you're picking
up stuff and you're, and you're giving off stuff.
But what I heard that was reallynice is that with all these
energy layers, our soul, our essence doesn't need cleansing.
It doesn't need fixing. It doesn't need improving.
It doesn't need getting better. It doesn't need fitting in like
the soul when you come into the onto the surface of this planet,
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into this earthly life is already perfect.
And it's the other stuff then that can get damaged and knocked
off place and, and has to to build itself up.
And then recently is having a chat with a friend and we're
having this idea. Maybe it's like, and everything
is just, it's not a nice idea. Do you know what I mean?
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It's like philosophy. Is it like, you know, because
when you've gone through suffering, when you've been
through really hard times in your life, you want to what the
hell do I have to go through allthat for a while?
There's the reason for it. And we're saying is it is it
that almost like. So if you have, if you are a
full, a complete being coming onto the earth, but parts of you
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are subdued so that you have to go through the process of
learning that part of yourself. So it's not that you were
lacking and then this happened to you because you were lacking.
But it's like you chose, I'm going to pull back this note
from my full song so that I can learn how to sing that note,
whether it's strength or resilience or compassion or
whatever it is, whatever that quality is that you pull back so
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that you were forced by circumstances to then really
bring us. Into the light, Yeah.
And then if you weren't vulnerable coming in so that if
you were in your fullness at thestart of your life, you never
would have been vulnerable to those experiences that you went
through. Do you know what I mean?
So it's almost like you had to kind of be not less of yourself,
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but just some parts of yourself toned down.
Yeah. Yeah.
It's like when you see like two people go through very similar
things in life. They deal with a completely
different. Yeah.
And the outcome of each person is completely different.
So it's very similar. It's the exact same with that,
really. Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah. So I have a question of.
Course he does. I have a question.
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Like, it just sparks curiosity. How does it sit?
You've been a Reiki practitioner.
Yeah, and a scientist. How did that mold together?
Ricky, I would say, OK, I believe we're all energy.
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Having study science, study chemistry down to the atoms,
down to the electrons, down to like studying science proves
that we're all just energy. So that that part anybody says
when the scientists are not intoenergy, it's like, but like just
you can't study it and not guess.
Yeah, that that's the laws of nature, laws of physics, laws of
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life. And then the chakras, the energy
centres. I have not found like solid
scientific evidence that I wouldsay, oh, that there, that proves
it. What I have come across is some
really interesting studies. So they did one where they had
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like a good, good number. It was like 100 Reiki
practitioners, 50 of them were genuinely trained in Reiki and
the other fifty were what they call fakie reikis.
So the the same hand movements, but they weren't trained and
they study the brain waves or the, the brain wave state of the
people who are receiving the treatment and the people who are
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receiving the treatment from thegenuine Reiki practitioners,
their brain wave states altered and the altered to the brain
wave state that people experience when they're in
hypnosis. Yes.
Scary laws. Is that what you're doing to me?
But it brings you into that place where you're and then this
is where it would veer off into psychology where I'm not
trained, but just, you know, through absorption.
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But it brings you into that stage where you're better able
to receive a new idea. So for the person it just, and
it takes, there's also evidence to show that it calms the
nervous system and whether that's Reiki or if it's just the
sheer act of being in the safe space with someone that you
trust and with Reiki treatments after you we've done the energy
cleanse, there is just this verygentle hands on aspect.
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And if I get someone who's very high anxiety coming in, I'll
start with that because I know that the body just needs the
calming. Yeah.
So all of that, OK. They're like little bits of
evidence. I thought this is true, this is
true, this is true. And then there's just the stuff
that happens that I can't explain.
So the stuff where I get an intuitive knowing of what that
person's going through. And it's just it's a
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conversation like so I don't seethings, I don't hear voices and
I think I don't mind explaining that.
So I'll be working on someone like mostly through the hands
off part and it's like if their solar plexus is out and I have
no way of checking that, then I'll be OK.
The solar plexus is about motivation.
It's about your connection to sole, your sole power.
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And it can be like your mischiefcenter like so these are kind of
have free shack where I'd have three kind of general areas that
I associate with them. And then I just feel into it.
And I got something to do with motivation.
It's like mischief. This person's not having enough
mischief. So something as dampen their
mischief. And then just then I start
imagining that I'm telling the person what I'm seeing, but
they're quiet, they're sometimesasleep.
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And the conversation happens in my head and I know the feeling
of it now. So I'm doing it three years now
doing treatments. And it's just a feeling.
I get giddy like I want to, I want to go and we've got to tell
you, that's how it feels to me when I know I've hit on
something. So then I have to like kind of
finish it off and I have to let it come through.
And sometimes it's really strongmessage.
Sometimes it's just this weird. Like the one, the first one, the
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first time this kind of really happened clearly was A and as
most people do, become a good friend like, but I was starting
this conversation about the angels.
So I can't remember which chakrait was, but it was something I
was like, OK, something about faith.
Maybe it's the crown chakra, faith, angels, God and I think
religion and I was going to go Gods way out, like religion and
the churches taken control of the angels basically, but they
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don't belong to the church. Like, you know, they belong to,
to, to life, to us, to everybodylike you.
And I believe they exist, you know, And so I was having this
conversation like in my head andat the end of it, I was kind of
I wanted to apologize to I'm really sorry.
I kind of went off to end this tangent in my head.
And you know, did you enjoy it? Because I was really strong,
really, really got lots of colours and stuff.
And I was well, OK, great. And I said, well, I'll just tell
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you like where my head went because I feel kind of guilty
that it was off having a chat with you in my head.
It wasn't. Present at all?
Yeah. So I was telling her this and
she's like, I did her PhD. I was at a master's she did in
her study in college was on religion and she worked with
teenagers and she does a lot of talking about religion with the
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teenagers and about different faiths and that there's a source
before religion came along. And yeah, it was just like the 2
was like, wow, Oh my God. Like she was literally just
described my PhD to me and like,that's nuts, that's nuts, and
stuff like that happens and thatI can't explain through science.
I, I don't think it's nuts. I just think it's, it's
synchronized. It's synchronous.
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So I'm a huge believer in energy.
I'm a huge believer in that we are all like, I mean, all of us
in this on this entire planet, this entire rock.
This might sound crazy for some people to actually get their
head around, but we are all interconnected and connected by
hidden trades that bind us all together and there's something
going on. So there's always something
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that's happening for a reason. Everything that's happened in my
life has happened for a reason. Yeah.
Do I know the reason? No.
Do I always want like do I always enjoy the reason or like
the reason? No.
Is it for the best of me? Yes.
Does it turn out to be not for the best of me?
At times, yes. Why?
Because I get in my own way and that's it.
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So like what you're talking about there with the Reiki and
that and the energy like so which are saying background on
that Tesla said that if you wantto understand the universe, if
you want to understand the world, think in terms of
frequency, energy and vibration.Yeah.
So you've just spoke about thereis all three, right, from your
Reiki, from your science background, from like everything
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you've just talked about, from talking about the vagal nerve,
it's all vibration, it's all energy and it's all frequency.
Yeah. Like as a scientist can like.
Do you think that like, can you actually comprehend it or is
there a part of you? Yeah.
Is there a part of you that's just like, it is like what it
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is? I just like.
Comprehend what? Like the life in general or?
How it all comes together? How it all binds together?
I haven't thought it through. Like, yeah, I feel, I feel like
I haven't understand it, but I don't know what it is That makes
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sense. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And I do feel like I'm getting pieces of the puzzle all the
time. Oh, that's how that works.
And that cool. And then you.
Oh, OK. So like what I would say is I
love the creation stories, love the creation stories, anything
where it's like, you know, even in the Bible and like somebody
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put it across my path recently, I was like reread the Bible
creation story. What did they say happened?
But then like the Native American ones and there's a
great book by Jeremy Narby, The Cosmic Serpent, and it's talks
about like just this idea that there was one.
This is where, yeah, Cosmic Serpent is probably the book
that combines the two where because we hear about The Big
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Bang theory and we hear about like this kind of, there's
different in the different ancient creation stories that
talk about like, yeah, the serpent that came through the
land and this arrival of an egg and all these kind of different
symbols. And then with the rock art and
all those, all these different symbols.
Well, Jeremy and Arby does, he brings it together and kind of
kind of postulates that it potentially was like the arrival
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of DNA on the planet and then DNA seeded the planet and then
over time. And DNA is a very structured,
repetitive carbon based molecular structure.
So what came before DNA? Where did it come from?
I don't know. I love to hear every story about
it. It's like there's nothing that
shocks me. I'm like, oh, that's probably
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true. Yeah, that's probably how it
happened. But that to me gives me some
sort of context of like, you know, we are basic, like in
every cell of our body we have DNA molecules.
So you could like take one cell from you and recreate a whole
new you. So how it can't be that bizarre
to think that there is like 1 ofsource of everything like
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plants, animals, humans, all of it's like one source.
So scientifically, it's one source, which is what the
religious texts say and the spiritual texts say that we're
all one source. So you say like, we're all
connected and we're all come from one place and we're all
unique but different. It's like, well, yeah, we like
scientifically, that's true too.Why is it so hard for us to
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actually comprehend and not divide through country borders
that don't exist? Colour, creed, race, all of this
crap? Sorry, that's just my opinion on
this and those crap. Will we ever be one race living
on the one planet as an entire species?
That's a big ass beater. It's like each, each individual
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has to reconnect. It's source.
That's the parts that we've become disconnected from
ourselves. And and that's like what Reiki
that that came home to me. We did a Marlene ran a, a Reiki
retreat for Reiki practitioners.And it was a beautiful weekend.
And it was just the kind of the question of the weekend was
like, why do we do it? Why do we keep going back to it?
And the question from each of us, it just brings you back to
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yourself, brings you back to yourself.
And then what is that yourself? And it's that deeper source, a
deeper essence. There's something more.
And if each person came back to themselves and that source, like
they say, all emotion comes fromlove, Even the emotions that we
would consider difficult or unpleasant or ugly, they all are
sourced in love. So like, yeah, and really brings
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you back through all that stuff and back into yourself.
And if everybody did that, then you would see your Nirvana.
Isn't it like, yeah, isn't it mad?
Like the the world we live in today, people are more afraid of
love than they are. Why?
What do? You think?
I don't know why. Do you think people are more
afraid of love than their of hate?
Like people like from the stuff we're talking about here, like
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say yoga and stuff like that, people would rather go out in
the street and take drugs than Kun and sit in the yoga class.
It's more appealing to them. Where it's out there, it's it's
full of hate, it's full of fear.Do you think it's more appealing
like for them or do you think there's something more up there?
No, I like. I know what you're saying too,
but like the younger ones, like starting off, they take the
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drugs with it because they thinkit's cool.
Do you know that sort of way? And like doing yoga and stuff
like that is also cool. Like why are they more attracted
to this stuff that could possibly kill them, get them
into a lot of trouble, Then going into a nice cozy room full
of love, full of good energy andstuff like that.
It's like, it's like the universe or whatever just sends
them that way. They don't want to go to the
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good stuff. Just they all go back to what
you just spoke about earlier, about how certain things are
dulled down and we have to learn, so we have to.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. But what I have learnt and what
I have seen is those of us like ourselves who did go down that
path rather than the path you went down, right?
And we had a challenging existence with substances and
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alcohol and gambling and whatever else that brought harm
to us and everyone around us. When we find ourselves, we dive
into love very, very deeply and service and connection and
oneness and try to recreate whatwe were missing and what we
tried to find through drugs. So I've learnt, like when I was
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younger and when I went and looked for my ease and comfort
through drinking, drugs and all the rest of it, I had more to
me. I had a spirit inside that I
couldn't understand comprehend. I had an energy that I couldn't
deal with it. I didn't feel that I belonged on
this planet and what we've been adopted.
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I was placed into a family that again, my energy didn't match.
Like very, very different, you know, the energies are just
different. And it's no one's fault.
It's just how it was. So then in turn, that made me
feel even more like, oh, I'm notsupposed to be here.
Like, what the hell is going on?And then sure, when I shut that
down with drugs, it was like, oh, I don't have to do that.
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I didn't have to think about that.
Don't look at that anymore. That's gone and stayed like that
for 20 odd years and then I got somewhere.
I was like, oh fuck, it's still there.
But you're saying all that, right?
Whereas now you get you get likemore pleasure in ways from doing
the yoga and so flowing and doing your deep breathing and
your meditation and stuff that brings you into such a good
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place that could have done the same for you years ago as what
the drugs. Did it Could have bought in the
circles that I went around and that wasn't there?
I don't know what I'm saying is that like if people, if the
younger generation are more aware, like what, Peter,
remember the day we were down atthe water with my two nieces and
we were sitting there meditatingand they were like, what are you
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closing your eyes for? What are you?
Yeah, yeah. But yeah, you could bring them
in a pub and sit with them all day and it's fine.
Because it's normalized. That's what I mean, yeah.
Insane that there's a question for you as well.
Insane what we're talking about.So I grew up in the 90s and
early 2000s. Like yoga was around, but it
wasn't as around as it is now. Do you think there is a shift in
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consciousness towards Wellness? I definitely would see it like,
yeah, so I mean, when I started teaching yoga 13 years ago,
there was maybe 3 or four other teachers in Sligo.
Now there's probably a couple ofstudios.
There's probably more teachers in those studios, but like there
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was a few of us and now there's yeah, like a lot of teachers.
And that's not just like, oh, that's happening everywhere.
So it's definitely becoming morenormalized.
The piece about teenagers, I don't think teenagers and yoga,
I don't know until maybe it's maybe that's, that's our good
barometer, as if teenagers are accepting yoga is completely
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normal. That's your, that's your, that's
your compass. Like, but yeah, like, I've
taught lots of different groups and different, yeah.
And we say vulnerable adult groups and all of that.
And teenagers are the hardest. They're the hardest.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I think it will get there
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because now when you go into a gym, you see all the younger
people, kids in the gym where you're stressing that, yeah.
They're basically doing yoga without realizing.
Yeah, it's just they don't have the breathing isn't much.
And they don't get the physique that they get in the gym from
doing. Also like when you're saying
like why would someone go off and like I think drink and the
drugs and all that isn't just a response to trauma or trying to
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run from yourself. It's just crack like and then
you go too far. And I find sometimes as well,
it's taking me even like in recent years, it's I've had to
catch myself going. I'm feeling really good and full
of energy of a drink. Yeah.
And then I do that. And then I'm like, hi for the
rest of the weekend, going high,great energy on Friday, just go
on like a great time. But it was like the whole
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weekend is just recovering from that or whatever, you know.
So there's kind of it's it's cultural.
It will take generations. It's just it's reflex.
It's not it's not all bad. Do you know what I mean?
There's a social thing. It's the drink wine in the
Bible. You know, it's not like it's
completely taboo. It's just that in a lot of
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situations it's it's a crotch. And like I said, it's escaping
from where you don't want to be and all the time as well.
It's wasted energy. Like you could have done
something amazing with that goodenergy, but I've really good
energy. Who of my friends is out there
with good energy that I can meetup with other than let's go for
a pint, you know. So it's still hard.
It's still not there. But yeah, I don't know if that
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explaining, but yeah, but it's definitely getting to to a place
and then maybe, you know, I think is it because I'm older
now there's more less. People.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
So you started over. I just said they're 13 years
ago. How did you go from doctor B,
the chemist, the, the one who did the PhD, the in the research
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to you're going to just be a yoga teacher, a yoga
facilitator. We're going to Reiki for a bit.
You know, we're throwing a bit of meditation and we do a bit of
breath work as well. Let's just.
Throw it all. You feel like, did you get calls
to these things or they just things that interest you?
No, there was big life changing circumstance.
So the second time I went to Australia, I went with my fiance
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and he passed away from over there and when I came.
So I've been working in top games.
So I've done my PhD and done, I've done, I had worked for, was
it 7 years, maybe five years in Top Chem.
So it's a company out in a smallIrish owned pharmaceutical out
in Ballymore. So it was a nice land.
I was really happy with access. Come to me.
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I'm a small town girl. I do like to know people.
I like to know who. And then, yeah, so we went to
Australia and he passed away andI came back and I can maybe
after a few months I went back into Top Chem and I said I was
there for two years and I was senior chemist when I went back
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in and they promoted me to a newproject manager.
So managing new projects as the committee to Loaf, like I've
been running your own business, you can have to enjoy new
projects because every day is a new project.
And so I really enjoyed that. And then I think 2 years into
that and I just felt, yeah, I just felt just just flatlined,
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like I was just gone, really notgetting any joy out of this.
And I just thought, am I getting?
And I did have to take some leave for called lay grief.
Yeah. But I knew the day I was time to
move because I had done my yoga teacher training.
So when I came back from Australia, I went and did yoga
teacher training just as something to do to reset myself
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to find a new foundation. So that was all in that time.
So that kind of yoga became my new foundation and belief.
And I read the Tibetan Book of the Living and the Dying and,
you know, I just started gettinginto all of these big things.
I was kind of going, OK, I'm actually, I'm really interested
in this stuff and I want to knowmore and I need to to be able to
figure out how the hell to move on.
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So my Co worker and supervisor and good friends who came out
her desks beside each other and we're on the lunch break and he
had a magazine out. And Stephen is super sciency
like just like keen scientific mind.
Magazine, as he reads, I looked over his shoulder and of course
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it was chemistry today. And I was just like, And then
the with the way the work was, it's like my next position
probably would be moving into his position and he'll be what
he also says like, I never want to read chemistry today on my
lunch break. Like that's just never going to
happen. Yeah.
And I looked down at my bag and I had yoga magazine sticking out
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of it. And I had been teaching like,
you're doing random classes around.
And I was just like, I don't know if I had the thought first
of like, what is it? I would like to do that.
I would also be reading about iton my lunch break.
And then I looked down and I sawthe magazine.
I was like, oh, right. And then I thought about a few
people because there was only a few at the time who were
teaching yoga and going right there full time.
Yoga teachers, they've made it work.
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Yeah. I can make it work and I don't
know why. I remember when the other guys,
Kieran walked through the door and I remember him just walking
through with the lab and for some reason in that moment I
went, I'm going to do it. I'm going to, I'm going to, I'm
going to leave this eventually. Yeah.
So that's definitely my next step.
I think Stephen was let go then.And it just kind of helped me
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realise that, you know, because it was a loyalty, because it was
such a small company when we started.
Like there were seven people when I started.
There was 37 by the time I left and I felt a kind of a loyalty
and then Stephen was let go. So that kind of just like just a
little bit like that's the word.No, it wasn't a big thing, but
it was just like, OK, yeah, no, you don't need to have a loyalty
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here. Like they'll they'll, you know,
don't feel like you have to giveyourself to them because it's
OK. That's fine.
So I went into the thing maybe aweek later, went into the boss
and said I want to be leaving, but I went to Australia before
and I came back. So he was like, I'm really
leaving this deal. Yeah, I gave them two months
notice and I helped them recruitand find replacement
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replacements for like given the notice and driving home that day
going, Oh my God, I'm doing it. And I drove back in the next
days, like 8 weeks, eight weeks of my life really was like,
yeah, it was really because I just, I'd already left mentally
and then I had to go through andthen I was, I'm really sitting.
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There was a few things or like the chemistry like is
fascinating. So there's a, there's a process
that you do a lot in chemistry, you've probably seen it in Abdi
as well, called recrystallization.
So I wasn't want to imagine a sugar, but when you're working
with umm pharmaceuticals, the don't dissolve in water, the
dissolve in organic solvents. So like like astal nail Polish
removing that kind of thing. So when you're trying to purify
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a salad, usually white crystalline material.
So that's why I say sugar just for a visual.
So what you'll do is you'll if you imagine sugar, that's some
coffee grains in it. This is just like crack
reproduction. This brings me right back.
So you would, yeah. So you dissolve all of it in the
appropriate solvent and then youneed to to crystallize.
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OK. So remember this one reaction is
that my head on the on the fume of noise watching it wouldn't.
So you have to have the right temperature, the right
concentration, like just with the right amount and I wouldn't
crystallize. I wouldn't crystallize, not
crystallize. And then you can add a seed
crystal, which is kind of a cheat, but it's done, it's work.
It's just, it's what you do. And it was a big enough reaction
flask that I could see it happen.
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But I added a seed crystal in, Isaw where it landed and crystals
formed throughout the entire solution instantaneously.
The fuck? Like how did they over there
know that there was a crystal over here?
It was just and then it was justthis beautiful, like flocculent
kind of snowy kind of material and all the crystals started
falling out. But just in that moment, it's
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just that whole thing. Everything's connected.
Like even in that it's like likeit was a big reaction flask.
And maybe that's not a big distance of people are used to
working with bigger vats of material.
But like, yeah, enough to go. It's instantaneous.
You know, when there's a change,when you reach like what's that
phrase people use consciousness capacity.
What's the come back to me in a moment, but you reach a certain,
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I'm going to say concentrations result.
But when you reach a certain, I'm going to say a tipping
point, but it's not that. So I'm going to give you a clue,
or not a clue, but I'm going to give you a hand.
If something to do, get your twofingers like this, put them
there right? Genuinely don't laugh about it
and think about what you were trying to remember.
(44:33):
I know you can't remember it, but think like what you're
trying to remember. It'll come to you.
Oh, no, sorry. Wrong point taken back.
It's there. Yeah, yeah, wrong point.
Don't. Give up the game, That's just
something that. Maybe people cup of tea.
No, genuinely, I got the wrong point.
So the two fingers there and it's there and then like, yeah,
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and just gently and just concentrate on your two fingers
and what you were trying to consciousness, you were trying
to remember. She could lie to him, pretend
she. Remember, she won't.
She's pure. I think I just want you to tell
me you know it, you know? OK.
I have to describe it like what they talk about when they say
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conscious when, when there's enough people on the planet
thinking of certainly the shift.Yeah, but there's like a shift
in consciousness when consciousness reaches a certain
capacity or? Just yeah.
That's the effect, but it's like.
Yeah, honestly, yeah, genuinely,gently.
You'll stop punishing yourself there, battering your forehead.
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You're trying to remember further.
No, I'm just showing the people we can get people here in the
podcast. So he.
Was going to trust you actually do ready to get done.
Well, I got you almond, so we'll.
Get you back. Do you want us to do this one
here? He's got to say something.
(46:01):
You won't go. That's for only fans, not.
Past 12 years. No, but I get you.
We come back. Yeah, serious, but yeah,
whatever. So I'll explain what it means
anyway. So there is an understanding
that on the planet and you talk about like, are we going to ever
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reach a point where everybody islike being accountable and
responsible and we're all doing the right?
By doing well, English, American, yes, whatever.
We're just no race, no colour, no creed, no nationality, no
border, no fake line. We're just beings.
Yeah, but there will be races, colours and creeds, cultures,
language. Cultures, cultures, cultures.
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Cool, right? Culture is understanding and
learning, and culture is like different parts of the globe,
but as an entirety like we are just human beings.
We all have the same makeup, thesame structural makeup.
Yeah, we just look a little different.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, and even at that, we don't
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even look like two different. If you get 2 frogs, you can look
really, really different. So you get the the Campbell frog
and you get the Colorado River toad.
One is 1 is a beautiful looking like elegant frog and the other
one's a big toad about, you knowwhat I mean?
Like it's not it's they're very different looking creatures.
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We all look like we're humans. We've all got five.
Well, not all the majority. I have to care because we we
have a guest coming on who he doesn't have a hand.
He calls himself I Can't Clap. Yeah, but anyway, that's another
podcast that's coming, but you're getting off topic.
I'm bringing it back. I'll bring it back to you.
Over to you. Over to you, Doctor B.
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OK, so this is a theory that when consciousness, when there's
enough people on the planet think in a certain way, there'll
be a shift in consciousness. Just like in that chemistry
reaction, all the conditions areperfect, everything, but it
wasn't crystallizing and you addto that one seed.
And then so like that's possiblymaybe how it's going to be that
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we're all getting to a level where like all, everything that
we've ever, we've all the intelligence, we've the
technology we need to do things,we do all the things.
We've got food, like all the stuff is there and then there'll
be something that just there's enough people ready to go, OK,
let's do it that way because that's the better way to be.
Right. Do you?
Find, yeah, I like that. So it's just that, sorry, it's
just that last trade that binds it all together and goes bang.
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Yeah. And and like everywhere on the
planet at the same time, yeah. The one time.
Wow. But do you find the more
materialistic this world is getting, the more people are
losing themselves because they're depending on more of
what's around them than what's in them?
I couldn't possibly say, but I think there's an awful lot of
people who've gotten who are finding themselves.
Like just as much as going through suffering and trauma can
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force you to a point where you have to just find yourself and,
and come back to that. But also getting everything
handed, like not handed to you, but getting everything that
you've ever asked for can also cause you to reach a point where
you go, what's what's the point of all this?
And then you find yourself. So I whatever path you take.
Yeah, I think maybe the way the world is now, we're seeing more
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of how people really are, you know, because it's all so visual
and it's like it's so globally present.
I think people know there were alot more understanding nowadays
about people's mental health andpeople's Wellness and people's
awareness and stuff in the world.
A. Few years ago.
Oh definitely. Yeah, yeah, yeah, definitely
was. You wouldn't talk about.
It no, that's it that. Just suffers from her nerves we
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don't talk about. Her.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. She's got depression.
No, when you're here, she's not.Well, you know, that's our way
that. Leads me on to something else.
Of course it does. I don't want to say anything.
Go ahead. You have a charity, Yes.
Yeah, charity is called having alaugh.
What's having a laugh? So we provide activity vouchers
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to people coming through mental health recovery, right.
So based on, I suppose, the wantfor there to be hope for people
coming through recovery with so much.
Yeah. Just in my experience, the
people I know have struggled that the fear of even asking for
help is because this, the only thing out there in the narrative
or in the visual is that once you ask for help, you're going
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to end up in Saint Columbus in astraitjacket.
Yeah. St.
Columba would be the psychiatricin the mental health hospital
here. It's actually, it's moved now.
It's not St. Columbus anymore.
So yeah. Local reference, yeah.
So yeah, there was a want. There's a number of, there was a
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few people in our group of friends that took their own life
in the space about two or three years.
And from that grew the we, we started supporting each other.
So we all had different activities or we don't go out
and do yoga and I teach the yogaand there was a couple of
friends who had started an adventure Tour Company.
So we'd go out mountain biking with them and we're all just
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doing that, like just checking in, meeting up with each other.
And then on one of the anniversaries we put together
like a week, weekends long eventbecause there was that like what
we do for the anniversary or youknow, we go to this pub or that.
Like that's not how we've spent the last year.
Not like it's not all of us. There was some, but no more of
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what the previous year had been about, being outdoors to nature,
meeting up, doing all that stuff.
So for the weekend, we decided we'd have an adventure weekend,
and we called it the Having a Laugh Weekend.
And having a laugh was kind of aphrase of resilience.
It was more just like having a laugh, you know, like in the
face of adversity. Yeah, you got it, you're gonna
have to laugh. Umm.
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So we called the festival the Having a Laugh Festival and we
just did loads of activities. So we cycled through slush
Woods, we kayaked across the lake, we all went out to Beezies
Island, we BBQ, we did yoga on the beach and Strat Hill.
And we had an evening kind of music events and big slippy side
into the lake and lots of fun. And we had some really cool
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friends who were into photography, still are.
And just the footage, because even now we look back in the
footage and you'd see someone like jumping off a slippy side
and someone sitting on the tree having a cry.
Like it was just all very real and very raw, very necessary.
So from that weekend, I would put a donation box around just
to generate some cash to pay forthe adventure tour of Isaacs.
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We did it, got them to, to look after the real, the, the risk
stuff and, and after everyone was paid, there was I think
€1600 in cash. So it was like, OK, I want to do
something with that. And, and there was no, I
presumed I said, well, obviouslywe want to put this towards a
charity that runs these kind of activities for people who are in
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mental health recovery. And there wasn't any that we
could find very good charity local here that does
counselling, but none that I could find that actually just
supports the activities. So it's kind of over back and
conversations that went and eventually got talking to a guy
who runs that counselling service, Northwest Stop.
(53:15):
And I was asking him, well, you know, can we put on a surf
lesson for some of your clients?And he kind of started a little
bit, had me on the back foot. He's like, oh, yeah, yeah, no
problem. Yeah.
And tell me this now, what you want to call it, a surf lesson
for people with mental health problems?
It's like, well, yeah, because once you put that label on it,
they're not going to go like, because whatever you do has to
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be as appealing to somebody who's in a good state of mind
for it to even be remotely have a hope of someone who's got all
these barriers and resistances in them.
So. So I got a bit frustrated and I
said, well, can I give them a voucher?
Like I've got, can we get you a voucher?
Like, I mean, it was a bit beingbit smart, to be honest.
I'm trying to give you some money here, like, you know.
And he goes, oh, yeah, I have two lads who'd go for a surf
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lesson if it was a voucher from the company, like it wasn't from
me. And I was just like, yeah, OK,
we can do that. And he goes and actually horse
riding. Yeah.
And then it just went from there.
So there's like, OK vouchers. So they're like anonymous.
So we birth the present or a Christmas present.
They don't have to be from, you know, there's no charity label
on it. You.
Don't have to have a laugh, no. No, no, no, no.
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So like if we wanted a voucher for, yeah, any gym in town, we'd
go to the gym and buy the voucher and then we post the
voucher. We work with the therapist now,
so we don't deal directly with people, but we for a few
reasons. But yeah.
So the therapist then would ask for the voucher for their
clients and we'd post it out to them and then they get to go and
say, like I said, it's a birthday present or whatever.
How long is that long ago? We sent the first vouchers out
(54:43):
in 2015, so we're eleven years, 11 years, Yeah.
How? Many lives do you think you've
had an effect on not you personally.
But I know what you mean. Yeah.
So our average, about 80 people a year, we sign up.
So that's only 80 people. How many lives?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I know. Myself from my own coaching,
from recovery coaching, when youhelp 1, you help the family and
(55:04):
in turn you help the community. That's powerful, yeah.
It's beautiful to put like, I know grief is pain, but to put
that into something powerful that.
Yeah. Could possibly save someone
else's life. No, definitely, definitely had.
There was a funny like energy with it.
Like at the start it was kind of, I would call it a brief
(55:25):
energy that went into it. And it was like, yeah.
So there was a kind of like, I would say wind in our sails in
those first few years. Very much was like, Oh my God,
OK, we'll do this, we do this. And people were just like,
there's lots of yeses, you know,And all the time actually it was
just me saying, yes, people don't come to me going, can I do
(55:47):
this? I was like, yes, so stuff would
come together, but it was going,I just was the person saying, Oh
yeah, you can do that. And if you do that there and if
you didn't, it all just kind of worked.
And then probably just before lockdown actually.
So it took a while for that energy to to dissipate, but it
did and came down with the crash.
And then we the lockdown and then through the lockdown, we
(56:08):
produced a book during the lockdown, got people to write
stories and put it together and produced a book, which was
lovely. Like to do that.
But coming out of the lockdown, then it's just like, do I
really? Because it takes a lot of time,
Like it's all voluntary and it doesn't operate unless you put
in the hours. Do you know what I mean?
So and then you have to fundraise.
So it's like it's just there's always, there's always a lot of
(56:29):
hours to put into it. And then, yeah, so there's been
plenty of times over the years where I'm like, oh, you know,
maybe I should be going off having a life instead of like,
sitting with the laptop to live in every time at night.
And I was at an event last summer and very much so last
summer, really difficult few years.
And last summer I was like at that point of going, OK, here
(56:50):
you are again where it's gettingreally challenging.
You don't know if you can go on.Is this the universal whatever
source, God, Spirit telling you to let it go now?
Like, is that what this is about?
And then of course, it's like, OK, I can ask Spirit.
I have to really ask myself, this answer has to come from me.
So I had that in my heart all the summer going this answer has
(57:11):
to come from me. I have to know the answer
because I just get swayed again,you know, like I've always been
a bit like, oh, whichever way the universe faults me.
And I was like, no, I need to start taking the reins here and
start figuring out what I want to do.
And I was at an event and acrossthe country, Calvin kind of a
was helping out at a college, a sweat that large event.
(57:31):
And so I arrived up. It was like a five day event.
I arrived on Day 2 just helping out at the kitchen.
And when you arrive in and there's a group of people that
have all been working together, like, and they're all quite
focused on what they were doing.So there was no like, oh, hey,
come on in. I was just like, oh God, give me
some tomatoes to chop. I just need to get into.
Yeah, Yeah. And this lady sat down beside
(57:52):
me. She's oh, hi.
How are you? What's what's So what do you do?
And I just like, what do I say yoga?
Do I say Ricky? And then if she could see me
hesitate and she's just like, what inspires you And all the
charity. And she goes, what's the
charity? Talk for 20 minutes about the
charity and all right, yes, it'sthe charity.
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So, yeah, that was the start of August last year.
And since then, there's been new, stronger energy coming
through to us. Yeah, I'm feeling, Do you know
that it needed to come from me? I think that was the first time
in the 10 years since we startedthat I feel like it's actually
coming from me. Yeah, yeah, it was your energy.
Yeah, you're doing it for you, not for, Yeah, everybody else.
Yeah, yeah. So that's that's been feeling
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good luck, Yeah. It is cool Charity, yeah.
I don't think there's much out there that's anything similar to
it. There isn't, actually, no.
And I haven't come across. And unless there's something
else started, we've had a few phone calls from people in other
counties wanting to start it. And I've explained to them and
trying to put them off. But I said, OK, well, you need
this number of volunteers, You need this amount of money each
year. And we're like, oh, and then
they're petered off. Yeah.
(58:57):
And. As well, to be honest with you,
yeah, yeah. If you told people things were
simple, a lot of people would belet down.
That's it. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You can't make promises. No.
With your charity would have a laugh.
So just in case anyone's listening from a county and
they've got an idea and they've got, they're able to do it and
they have the time and they havethe energy and they have the
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resources. Are you open to someone
contacting you? Oh, God, yeah, yeah, yeah.
How did you get this score? We've the whole structure in
place and that's what we've beendoing like when we've always had
it there, but it's just putting it down in paper.
And yeah. So it's all there to how to do
all, even down to the social media, like how to how to run
that and what you can put up andwhat you can't.
And yeah, yeah. And the GDPR and the how to work
(59:40):
with the volunteer centre so that you get good volunteers,
you get people who really have time and have the right skills
for for what you want. Like so yeah.
If people want to find you, how can people find you with all
that you're doing and like everything that you're involved
in, how can people get a hold ofyou?
Yeah, I have my website which isyour well-being warrior.com.
Yeah. And so the name your welding
(01:00:00):
Warrior came about with my very best friend years ago.
She was. Yeah.
We sat in the lobby. I don't really call it a lobby
in in IKEA and there for about two hours and I've been doing,
I'd started doing lots of. I was doing yoga.
I think maybe it was actually itwas just yoga I was doing at the
time. But we're trying to come up with
(01:00:21):
a name for the business and. There was lots of kind of yoga
terms and names that just weren't sitting with me and I
was like, you know, because I don't feel like I'm always going
to be just doing yoga. Like I want the name.
I don't want to have to change this again in a few years.
I want it to be a kind of an umbrella name.
So I was finding it hard the process.
But she doesn't matter, doesn't matter.
(01:00:42):
I just call it this and she's like, no, no, no, how about
this, How about that? She was just really good for
sticking with it for as I would have run away five times and and
then landed on we definitely said well-being more than yoga.
And then it was like warrior because of that.
Like I felt passionate about people don't have the time to
search for all these things, whereas I have left my job and I
(01:01:05):
want to spend the time finding the stuff and not just it's not
just about building up a load oftrainings, just kind of what I
was doing, but it's about what'sactually working here.
What is this? How do they relate to each
other? They can't all be separate
individual trainings. There must be a common theme to
what's going on to all this stuff.
And I want to find the evidence for it.
And I want to teach the stuff that really works.
And I want to know that it worksand I want to teach it if I
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don't know it works. And that's when eventually the
science came back in where I started understanding the
nervous system and everything. So yeah.
So then it was the your well-being warrior.
I'm going to be out there looking for it.
And rather than like think was my well-being warrior
originally. And I was like, no, that doesn't
make it. That doesn't make sense.
So it's your well-being warrior.So I'm here to find the stuff
that works for you. So yeah.
(01:01:47):
So with that I have yoga, Reiki,do massage and then project
management that have gotten backinto again.
So which is really exciting. So that's yeah, that's the full
currently. There's another thing, someone
sneaking in there, but we'll leave that for the moment.
Yeah, I've got something that I think about, but you were
(01:02:09):
talking before to me about. Breathwork, shallow breathing.
We spoke about it one day in a podcast where I was suffering
really bad and a lot of people engaged with us and said that
they were suffering from the same thing and they thought it
was panic attacks or anxiety attacks.
And I did myself. But in Ayurveda, Dr. explained
(01:02:29):
to me that it was, I breathe, I shallow breathe.
Yeah. And that's one thing I really
struggle with in yoga. I've tried yoga a few times and
I've really struggled because I,I get lost then because I'm
watching people around me, I'm listening to the instructor and
my breath work can't keep up. And that's completely putting me
off yoga. Have you any advice for anyone
(01:02:51):
that's in the same boat as me? Yeah, I mean, if your breath, if
you're shallow breathing and the, the, the, the want or the
inclination is to want to take adeep breath, but you start with
the inhale, then you're just going to meet that shallow, the
shelf that you can't get down any deeper.
So the one breath technique thatI will promote over and over and
(01:03:13):
over again. And I think I'd say that been to
safe talk training recently and the psychologist was even saying
the number one breath practice to reduce high states of
anxiety, to bring a person back to the state of somewhat
stability is the extended exhalation.
So that's where you make your exhale longer than your inhale.
And, and when I'm teaching that or when it's been taught, it's,
(01:03:39):
it's usually there's a count that goes with it.
So you can inhale for four, exhale for four, do that three
times and then you'd extend the exhale.
So you exhale for six, do that three times and eventually you
go to 8. But the eight can seem quite
hard to do. So like you've taken an inhale
and your exhale 578 and it's just it's hard to keep going.
(01:03:59):
So do that for a few rounds justas an example, because I do find
people don't even when you say extended exhalation, like they
don't get it until you kind of force them to, to keep trying to
exhale. And then it's like, OK, that's
what it is, but now you're just going to breathe in your own
rhythm. Just try and make your exhale
longer than your inhale. Doesn't matter how long the
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inhale is, doesn't matter how long the exhale is, as long as
the exhale is a little bit longer.
And and then when you are exhaling, it's to slow down the
exhale so that it lasts longer. So it's not about exhale and
then holding your breath, and it's not about like trying to
push more breath out. It's more that you're just
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softening it, making it gentler so it lasts a bit longer.
And when you get to the point where you feel like you're
starting to push, that's when you stop.
And the key then is you don't stop and hold.
Now there is a breath technique where you do that and it has a
slightly different function, still beneficial.
But for this one, when you just want to, you want to train
yourself into a more natural breath pattern.
(01:05:05):
You get to some point just before when you start pushing
and then you open your Airways, you stop pushing out, you stop
exhaling, open the Airways and just let the inhale come back in
And the inhale comes back in andit's like a relief.
Do you know? So you're creating a little bit
of breath hunger that causes your body to inhale.
And then over time you'll find that inhale will come in and go
deeper and go deeper each time. So it's just that slow, steady,
(01:05:26):
slow, and then let it come back in.
And the first you will feel shallow, but then over time
you'll start to deepen. And then you can start to direct
it. You can bring your hands onto
your rib cage. And now when I inhale, I want to
feel it coming in here. I want to feel it coming in
here. I want to feel it coming in
here. And you can anywhere you can
have a play with it. Can I feel it coming into my
arm? No, that doesn't.
Whatever. Yeah, yeah.
(01:05:46):
It is because like I've watched you with your shallow breathing
and just like I only only came to me there as you were
discussing that and explaining that.
And you like you've got the shallow breeding that it's.
And when you get that exhale, that's when you're like, oh,
it's like you're fighting for that exhale.
And it could take a couple of minutes or it could take you 10
(01:06:07):
minutes. And like I've seen when you went
through a lot of stuff last year, when we talked about it
before in the podcast, when you felt safe and you were
processing all the things that you needed to process.
I've watched you go for eight, 910 minutes, even longer at
times, not been able to get thatdeep exhale.
And when you got it, it was justlike, it was awe.
(01:06:27):
It was like someone gave you a yeah, It was like someone just
gave you your life back. Like I'd have to sit up in bed
to get that exhale out and I could be sitting up for 5 or 10
minutes. It was easy nights.
I'd have to get up out of the bed and go down and sit on the
couch and distract myself with my phone until I fall asleep
because I'd be afraid I wouldn'tbe able.
To breathe. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Just that shadow breathing, Yeah.
And I was fully convinced I was really do a panic and anxiety
(01:06:51):
and stuff like that. But it's just I wasn't trusting
my own body. Yeah.
Breathing, but it's a physiological response as well,
like not to give yourself too hard a time.
Like it can, it can. It's a real, like someone talk
with the nervous system, like it's a real response of your
body that is holding the breath.So yeah.
Is that trauma based? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
(01:07:11):
Whether it's like 1 specific traumatic event or if it's years
of negative self talk or whatever it is like it is, it's
all effective felt by your nervous system and it sends the
signals into your body to hold. It's like you're bracing.
So bracing, bracing. So just would it be like, so you
know, Sophia story in her background, a lot of her
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childhood would have been bracing.
Survival mode. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And it makes sense. I'm going off the topic a bit
completely here, but it makes sense when you say about holding
on to stuff like even with like Constipation and stuff like
that. I'm very bad at that.
It's like everything that's in my body, I want to keep it there
(01:07:55):
and hold on to it. So it does make sense when
you're doing it with your breathand everything else that comes
with it. Like, yeah, it's so steady.
Excel, yeah. But it's like, isn't it like,
not cruel, but like, it is cruelin a way that you go through all
this in life and then you end uptorturing yourself for what
you've gone through. Like, it's.
(01:08:15):
Yeah, yeah. But that's the thing about
letting go with the shame and the guilt, isn't it?
Yeah, but that's, I mean, that'swhat recovery is about, is
training yourself how to come out of the the the survival
state, the panic state. And that's what's not taught,
you know, and like even the onlyoutcome to someone, say, being
(01:08:36):
rescued from a traumatic situation like that is that
they're then put through the courts.
It's the situation. And you have to retell the story
like the the primary focus isn't, well, just let's get this
person reset to where they should be.
No, it's like, let's pull information out of them.
And then you're left pad and then if you go to the doctor
saying it's their Trump prescriptions that.
Yeah. And that's like, I went to a
(01:08:58):
psychiatrist before after comingoff all my meds after my
grandfather died. And I was begging him to put me
back on my medication after seven months.
And he said to me there was a vase on the table.
He said if I smash that off the floor, put it back together with
glue, the minute I take the glueaway again, the vase is in bits.
He said that's all the medication does for people.
(01:09:19):
That's a good analogy. Yeah.
And all right, that that still put me on.
Yeah, last year I did try and goback on anxiety tablets for a
while because I my breathing wasthat bad, but it didn't work.
It's because it's like you said,it was all coming from inside.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. But then.
You look at alternative approaches and you've been using
alternative approaches and you've got a lot more in your
(01:09:40):
toolbox and look at you now. Because I'm trusting myself as
well. Yeah.
And I'm showing myself a lot of self love and self respect and
talking nicely to myself. Like the arm, isn't it the
vibration? Of the sound, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, I. Think.
It's cool. Anything else?
(01:10:02):
Not that I can think of, no. OK, so.
Finally. So right, You're a doctor, a
scientist, meditation. Fairy.
Fairy. An Irish fairy?
Really. Let's be honest.
(01:10:22):
A yoga facilitator, teacher practitioner, A Reiki
facilitator, teacher from Reiki courses, a massage therapist and
a celebrant. Oh yeah.
How did that come about? And I know you're a celebrant
because you are going to officiate mine and Sophia's
wedding ceremony. Ceremony, That's right.
(01:10:44):
Yeah. Yeah.
My cousin got married during lockdown, but she the plan was
to get married regularly, to know that locked down and then
locked down and then postpone the wedding, postpone it and
then the celebrant wasn't available so they'd done the
official legal part. So she just asked me, would I
poster, you know, do the celebrant part?
(01:11:07):
And I did. And I loved it.
I really, really loved it. And so then, and a few people
have said you should think aboutdoing that.
People especially you should think about doing that.
So I did. Yeah.
So I went. My friend's husband is a trained
celebrant, so I spent a few sessions with him and we went
through the whole course. And I haven't, haven't thought
(01:11:30):
it out because, and I'm delighted to do with you because
there is a process of you meet with a couple, you want to get
their story, you want to put andit'll go over and back a few
times. So and make sure that you know
exactly what I'm going to say onthe day.
And and that's not something I want to rush.
So I haven't been looking for itbecause as you know, I'm, I'm
busy. But you guys asked.
I was like, yeah. We love your energy, right?
(01:11:52):
You're just a bundle of love. A bundle of fresh air.
Honestly. And then we, we were talking, we
were talking about we're not religious, right?
We're spiritual, we're not religious.
Take a bit of everything and we make do the best.
Make it our own. Make it our own.
We're like, great, how are we going to go about this?
What are we going to do how we like and was it you would
(01:12:14):
blowing do it? I said no, what I said to you is
that one day is I said I'd love someone like blowing to you and.
I said what's your size blowing and.
Then we were sitting having the coffee that morning and you
mentioned it. I was like, Oh my God, no,
that's. Crazy.
We asked you and you says what? I'm actually is celibate.
Yeah. Yeah, that's what it was.
Yeah. Yeah, that's.
(01:12:34):
Wild. So yeah, there you go.
You need to celebrate honestly. Massages, yeah.
So if you need to celebrate dad,if you want to have an
alternative holistic style wedding, yeah, with yoga,
meditation, like breathwork, Reiki, massage therapy, and
she'll marry you. Not marry you, but marry.
(01:12:55):
You, yeah, marry you together. Which are?
Yeah, kind of careful here. That's selling their services
online. Yeah, you got to be careful.
So is there any like is there anything else in the pipeline?
I think we've hit on everything.No, just a bit more free time.
(01:13:18):
I think that's what I'm trying to focus on.
But all that we're just discussed like free time,
actually. Yeah.
So what do you do for free time,actually, just out of curiosity,
right. No, genuinely.
So you do a lot for so many different people.
Yeah, between the charity, you're you're building your
business, you're getting things up off the ground, property and
getting it all going. What's this blind do for blind?
(01:13:40):
I'd love to say surfing, but I don't get out surfing as much as
I used to. And so for me, if it's just need
to get out, it's walk on the beach.
It's as simple as that. And yeah, strand till the left
side, the full loop, It's seen so many.
Yeah. I could piece together my whole
life with what I was process andwalk in that loop.
Do you know what I mean? I don't know how to say it, but
(01:14:01):
if I if I talk to Blahin every time she came around that
corner, like I would have my whole life story.
Bought that so many times and everything.
Yeah, everyone process and that's out there.
That's your voting place. That's my go to place.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I like a good drive with no
music on. Yeah, yeah, for 1/2 hour drive.
Anyway. I was like, oh, like I have to
have a Curry so do some work outthere.
So yeah, I just like no music now.
(01:14:22):
Just need to. It's your time.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. No distractions.
I got away recently. Knock Airport.
Best place ever. Or not to knock airport, get a.
Text from me. I snuck away to Portugal.
It sounds so glamorous, yeah. Remember, she's in Portugal.
(01:14:45):
But yeah, because like, you can,there's lots of places you can
go to from knock. But literally went out and
Sunday came back Fridays like nobody noticed me.
God, yeah, yeah, that was. Really cool, you really do that
for yourself and show up for yourself.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. And just to take the time.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like you saw my window seat in
there, like that's sorry, but that's just such my, like, zone
(01:15:06):
Outplay, especially in the middle of the day when the sun's
coming in. Like it's just a little bliss
station. Midday snooze is like my reset.
I feel like something's happening when I fall asleep in
the sunshine. It's like something's like, I
feel stuff Yeah. Reconfiguring or, yeah, settling
me out like today, Like I met you earlier today in town and I
was just out of it like a funny headspace and I came home and I
had a snooze and the sunshine had shower, but there I am.
(01:15:28):
Reset later. On Yeah, yeah.
And this was to notice this taketwo moments.
And sometimes you don't have thespace to take time.
But I know myself, if I do that for a few days, it's like you're
going to have a face plant. Are you going to have a day like
today where I woke up and I justcouldn't get myself right for
the day? Yeah.
It's great having the awareness,I say to a lot of different
people when I cope with that. It's great learning the
(01:15:50):
awareness and learning to have the awareness about yourself,
but you don't actually do anything about it.
You've got a key to a lock that you're never turning.
Yeah, it's the action. Yeah.
We don't put action into whatever the case may be.
Like we're going to stay in the same place over and over and
over. Again, Yeah.
And it takes a process. It's like trying to figure out
like, oh, what is it that I wantto do here?
(01:16:12):
Is it that I want to get out andgo for a cycle or, or do I
actually just need to sit down and send Lumen emails that I'm
trying to avoid? Like, yeah, you know that it is.
You have to kind of, but like it's awareness, you have to
start asking yourself. And it's not going to be, oh, I
did that 10 minute meditation today.
I should be, I should be grand again.
Like, sorry, but it's going to take a couple of years of
(01:16:33):
getting to know your own patterns and getting to know
your own signals and just being a bit softer with yourself.
Yeah. Yeah.
Do you ever sit with yourself and, like, pat yourself on the
back for all the amazing stuff that you do for people?
Like you heal people, you heal. As Peter said earlier on, it's a
ripple effect. You you you could change
(01:16:55):
generations of what you do. Yeah, it's definitely have to
correct the I heal people parts.OK?
People heal themselves. Yeah, yeah, Like, yeah, yeah,
yeah. I do have days where I just
scored. That was class.
Not I wouldn't say so much Pat myself and back.
It's more gratitude. I'm like, Oh my God, that was
class. I really enjoyed that today.
There's a hike I do once a year,the solstice yoga hike up car
(01:17:17):
keel. God, I love that.
I love it. And it came about just because
what we do, we do, you know, you're just putting things
together and trying out different things.
And that one's just grown like, and every year and even like
every year I'll get another like, Oh, I'd hear a little
something from the science worlds like, Oh, that explains
why we do this or what meditation.
And then I'd hear something fromlike blanded fairies, like one
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of my one of my spiritual friends will have an insight as
to what the purpose of the ancient sites are.
And I'm like, so over the years like this, this like story that
grows with the walk and I love it like, you know, so yeah, more
so like that. And I do, I do have like such
gratitude that I've been able todo all the things I do because
it's not easy to make money and to make a living.
And that's not binge and it's just that's the reality.
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But I've been lucky that I've been able to things have just
come when I need them. So I've always appreciated that.
And God, that came through and Iwas like, thank you, thank you,
thank you. Like, you know, like because I
just, I just want to keep doing this stuff.
So yeah, showing gratitude, it'sreally important, isn't it, to
show? Gratitude.
Yeah. And to feel it.
Yeah, I didn't actually. The lovely man, he's passed away
since he's done. He is a he's a counsellor and he
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his, his his therapy room is in the end of his greenhouse at the
back of his garden. Yeah, yeah.
And he did a lovely weekend on outdoor psychology.
So it's kind of a training thing.
But he did a gratitude meditation that blew my mind
because I was not expecting this.
But so he's just kind of brought, there's only three of
us there. And he just kind of closed your
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eyes. OK, I'm going to you want to
imagine somebody sitting on a chair across from you.
And this is the person that you're grateful to, but you
don't know who it is yet. But there is a person sitting on
this chair across from you in your mind's eye.
And I think, I think how it wentwas he got to imagine your eyes
are opening or in a moment, you're going to see who this
person is and you're going to know that you're grateful to
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them. And so did the process.
And and I don't think I opened my eyes, but I was like, imagine
that you're opening your eyes oryou suddenly see the person.
And it was my sister. And I was blown because my
sister, we would have like, we get on, we're best friends now.
But like, there was definitely years.
And she had no problem me sayingthat.
Yeah. Oh, yeah.
Yeah. Very different, very different
people. Like, yeah.
But we've found our common ground.
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Like, you know, there's kind of oh, yeah.
We can see the thread now. That makes us sisters, you know,
I couldn't believe it and I was overwhelmed and it was the first
time I was just like, I was gushing with tears and I was
just like so grateful. She's my sister and I'm the one
who like I get she's my sister. Like, you know, I was just like,
oh, and I couldn't like, it was the first time I got feeling
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gratitude. Not that it's the first time I
felt gratitude, but it was just like, oh, that's what it's a
feeling and it's a practice. Like you definitely have to
practice it, but you practice itoften and also every now and
again, you get the feeling of itand feeling gratitude as a gift
to you. It's not something that you're
you have to do, if that makes sense.
But you practice it so that you get those moments of gratitude
because they feel like bliss. Like it feels like joy when you
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get it. You're just like.
Like you can be, you can get it for a cup of tea, like, you
know, Yeah. It's just, it's the feeling, you
know? Yeah.
It is powerful. I never knew what gratitude was
so like. And you can feel like cleanses.
Yeah, it does. Yeah.
Yeah. We do say that when when we go
on a bit of a downward spiral where we start getting like a
bit down and like. Self talk, yeah.
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And we always say because we we stop having gratitude for what
we have, it's not it's we forgetabout it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. This is life, but we forget
about the things that met as well, the things that got it.
Yeah, You know, So it's a very powerful tool.
To feel. Gratitude.
Yeah. Even so, we were in with an
organization called Impact who work with parents, children,
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they're affected by addiction. Oh yeah.
And we were in my work kind of brought us in there and we're
talking to a lady in there and she brought us into the room
that they use for the families and the children and that.
And then she brought us in the room that use for children and
families and that. And on the wall they had a sheet
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that the kids made right what they need.
So the parents were put into oneroom, the kids were in another
room. It's like all lovely.
Like it's not just separated, it's they'll have meals and
stuff. And then we're not explaining
this very well, but just quicklythe kids put down on the sheet
of paper what they need from parents.
And one of them was food and water, Food and water, right?
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And that's, I think that we are,we're not grateful for because
we have it, you know, we, I, when I came into recovery, I was
very grateful that when I woke up in the morning, I wasn't
reaching for a pipe and running my pillow to make me well enough
to get out of bed. Now I forget about that.
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When I came in, I came in homeless from the streets of
London at the beginning, I was so grateful to be in my family
home, to have a soft warm bed, to get up, to have running
water, to have hot water, you know, to have butter in the
fridge, to have food there. I was like, wow, this is great.
And I don't owe anyone money. And I'm not looking for bags of
smack. Like, this is deadly.
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And now a couple of years in andI've, we've got our own home and
we've got, we've got all of that.
Yeah. And then wake up in the morning,
it's like, hold on a minute. What what happened?
Like why am I like is because I take for granted what.
You're normalized. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's the word. Yeah.
Yeah, it is. Yeah, yeah.
But it's that's that's a good sign too, to notice that like,
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wow, look at this my life now that this is normalized where it
was. Yeah, what I didn't have before.
There is a phrase. Is it want what you have?
And it's so obviously I want youto have, why did it take you 4
hours sitting at the kitchen table with your best friend
talking about this? But yeah, it was one of those
New Year's Eves. And it was 4 hours like till
four or five in the morning withone of my good mates.
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And we're like having this discussion similar to this, like
this, kind of like this. And then at the end, like fine
pair of Egypt. So four in the mornings, like
just want what you want, what you have.
Because if you didn't have what you want, if you didn't have it,
you'd be wanting it. So you have it.
So imagine you want what you have and then open your eyes and
you have it like this week. Come for this great idea for
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meditation. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Seemed really profound at that time, like 4 or.
More Yeah, it's. Amazing.
Tell everybody like, yeah, I gotyou completely sober.
Yeah. It does make so much sense.
I give. It's like we do save the person
we were three years ago could see where we are now.
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Yeah, yeah. Do you know we wouldn't have
believed it. Oh no, not no way.
What I believed. So like, that's exactly what
you're saying. Want what you have?
Yeah. That is a cool way.
It's more like you break it downand actually just think about it
more and more. Want what you have?
It's very simple really. But it's it's powerful because I
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So what I have right now with the loving relationship, the
home, my own like career, like all the knowledge, all the
training, all the education, everything I have, all the
amazing loving people in my life, all the energy, all the,
the cool people that want the best for me around me.
I've always wanted that. I've never had it because I've
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kind of, I suppose repelled it as well with what I was up
there, what I was doing, but I actually, I wanted it many times
when I was in the depths of despair.
Poor me. Why am I like this?
No one like I like this because I I was doing what I was doing
in the depths of addiction, but I wanted what I have now.
Now that I have it, there's times I forget all of that.
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So just want what you have. So remember that when you're
thinking what we want what? You have you're on a fine.
Line today. I got to push them away.
No, it's it's like that. I'm actually going to use that
one of my nieces. Hey, you're going to copyright.
Yeah, but it's. So simple and easy to
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understand. It really is.
It's. Beautiful.
Do you think children would understand that?
Our teenage will understand thatbecause they haven't gone
through phases of actually wanting what they have.
But baby, there's there's not many teenagers out there
nowadays that haven't gone through something school and
social media and. This is really is.
Yeah, yeah. Do you know, like even you see
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young ones going around with phones where it's fifteen,
£1600? Not isn't it?
It's. Not we saw that outside the gym
the other morning. We were going into the gym and
there was two children, must have been about 11 years of age
between the two of them. They did easily.
Like an electric scooters. Electric scooters 2 iPhone,
iPhone it's like that's. And then you think that that
child that was asking for food. Yeah, yeah.
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That's another podcast. That's another podcast
altogether that way, yeah. So are you happy with, would you
like to see anything else or wrap it up with anything or do
you think we've covered enough? I love Noah.
That's our. Editor.
I know, yeah, No, I think, I think we've, we've touched on as
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much as we could touch on in onechat.
So, because reading, I'd like tosay to.
Our. Listeners.
To our listeners. Anyone that might be feeling a
little down or a little lost in life right now, is there any
advice that you could give them because you've succeeded at so
much and you put yourself through so much to help other
(01:26:51):
people heal? Yeah, I think it comes back to
that piece about just coming back to yourself and remembering
that your, your soul doesn't need fixing.
Your spirit doesn't need fixing.You're already perfect.
And what you're learning is everhard as it might be.
Just trust that you're finding like everybody who's been
through something difficult knows that what they find
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through that is their own strength.
And, and, and you deserve to feel and know your own strength
because when you do then and when you have yourself, you can
face anything. Yeah, because when you lose
yourself, that's when it all falls apart.
Yeah, I like that. Very powerful, Very, very
powerful. It's one that no, actually leave
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