July 24, 2025 • 24 mins
Questioning everything could be your most powerful path to healing. Join hosts Denise and Kira as they explore how maintaining a growth mindset transforms not just what you know, but who you become.
The journey begins with their personal stories of breaking free from rigid thinking. Both hosts share how they moved beyond limiting religious beliefs without abandoning their spiritual foundations. This same questioning approach revolutionized Kira's health journey when conventional medicine offered no solutions to her ongoing symptoms. Their experiences reveal how curiosity opens doors that remain firmly shut when we cling to "the way things have always been."
What makes this conversation truly transformative is their exploration of question quality. There's a profound difference between asking "Why does this always happen to me?" versus "What patterns keep showing up in my life?" One keeps you stuck; the other propels you forward. The hosts provide practical guidance on crafting questions that illuminate your healing path, whether regarding health, relationships, or discovering your soul's purpose.
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Welcome to the Heal Yourself Podcast, where we dive
deep into all things healing.
I'm Denise, a speech andlanguage pathologist and a
self-love coach for adults andteens.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
And I'm Kira, a traditional naturopath and
functional nutritionist, andwe're here to guide you through
the transformative process ofhealing your body, mind and soul
From the latest in functionalmedicine, of healing your body,
mind and soul, from the latestin functional medicine to
nurturing your relationship withyourself, healing trauma and
even transforming your moneystory.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
we're here to empower you with the knowledge and
tools to create lasting change.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
So, whether you're looking to heal physically,
emotionally or spiritually, joinus as we explore the many paths
to wholeness and wellness.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
Welcome to another episode.
Today you have both of us, kiraand Denise, and we are talking
all about learning and beingopen, having a growth mindset to
learn, and you know there's somuch in the world to learn, so
that's what we're talking abouttoday.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
So much to learn.
But I think there is so much tolearn, there is so much to
learn and I think there's adifference between just learning
, being open and questioningthings, cause I I feel like
that's you know, you guys knowby now Denise and I leave each
other WhatsApp messages all thetime and then sometimes it's
like oh, this is an idea for apodcast, you left me the message
for this, but I'm like allright, take it away.
(01:33):
But I think part of it camefrom questioning, which you and
I had this conversationyesterday.
I think questioning is good andfor some reason, people don't
like to do that.
There's like fear around.
I don't want to question that.
What if it changes my beliefs?
What if I question it?
Speaker 1 (01:47):
and it's wrong, and that is Well, because that's
what we were raised I mean, noteverybody, but a lot of the
people were raised to becomplacent, not to question
authority, not to questionreligious leaders, not to
question higher people than youor whatever Doctors exactly.
(02:08):
Don't question like someone whois.
And I mean I have to, like youknow.
I mean I think because Iremember my students and that's
maybe this is how the topic cameout and I left you this message
is, you know, because you know,now I do see my private clients
, um, at home and I have thelittles and I have, you know,
(02:28):
the teenagers, and with mystudents, who tend to be like
you know, who are older than sixyears old, when they're two and
a half and three, like we'redoing mindfulness a little bit
different.
But, uh, I do a lot ofmindfulness with my students and
I notice, especially with thekids on the spectrum, they need
that grounding in order to havea successful session right, or
(02:51):
even if we're having a sessionand they just start like getting
so distracted, you know webring back with and then we
bring back with, either you know, deep breathing or any of the
mindfulness stretching exercisesthat I do with them but that
just opens them up to and I dothat with my in-person kiddos
too that I see at school, and Istarted to notice in myself that
(03:12):
the more open-minded I am andquestioning and like asking
questions and being curiousabout things, I am more open to
learning.
Yeah, so like you can talk aboutsomething, because I do have
the religious experience thatyou and I share that maybe we
can kind of like go back andforth about, because for the
(03:32):
longest time I would just thinklike, oh, my religion is the
religion and like, if you're notgoing to mass and you know,
getting communion, what's gonnahappen to you?
Like that's what I used tothink and I was like nothing,
nothing is going to happen tothem.
They have their own faith.
You know what I mean.
So it's like so that thatreally opened my eyes to being
(03:53):
open to accepting otherreligions, other spiritual
beliefs as well, instead ofbeing so rigid.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
Yeah, Well, I mean, I can obviously chat on that and
I want to tie it into health tooand I'll come back to that.
But yeah, I mean, you and Igrew up Catholic and it was the
same thing.
It's like I went to churchevery week.
If you miss mass, you had to goto confession.
And then there's the wholepurgatory thing.
And well, if I miss and I don'tgo to confession, or if I don't
(04:21):
tell the priest something, am Iadding a day, Am I adding a
month to purgatory?
What does that look like?
And it's almost like I viewedother religions as not bad, but
it's like, oh, they have theirbeliefs, so therefore this
happens to them.
They don't fit into our box,which is weird, Cause then it
would be like well, then there'smultiple gods who were like
(04:42):
here's the rules for you andhere's the rules for you.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
I know, I know, and that's why you and I I mean I
know you've been questioning andbeing curious way before me I
still had a rigid mindset for awhile, but yeah, I feel like
just asking questions and beingcurious is just allowing us to
be more accepting.
It's not just also learningmore things, but being more
accepting.
(05:06):
But yeah, like I swear I usedto think I promise I mean like,
because you know how in thecatholic church they teach that
you know the um, the, thecommunion is really, really
important, right, and and I'mlike, but but the communion is
not in every religion.
So to me, I was like, so ifsomeone does not get communion,
like that means that theirreligion is fake, their religion
(05:28):
is false and they're not goingto be saved.
You know, and, and that was likeit's such a rigid mindset, yeah
and um, but yeah, now I acceptall religions, spiritualities
and or beliefs or whatever, andand to each their own, or maybe
in the past, like, oh, thisperson is atheist, there was so
(05:48):
much around that but it's like,but that's just their beliefs
and that's okay.
You know what I mean.
So that's being open to justwith everything I would love to
talk about.
You know health and maybe likeso we did mention questioning
doctors because a lot I'm sureyou have seen that a lot oh yeah
, your clients, right, you know,either you know they want to
(06:11):
question or they don't want toquestion, and then they just
keep taking the medication, yeah, or assume like, okay, he told
me everything on my labs looksfine, so therefore it's fine,
and that I mean for ourlisteners.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
I have a feeling a lot have dealt with health
issues and so this is a commonone.
And honestly, it's where Ireally did start to question
things like, yes, I was theannoying kid that would be like,
but why?
But why?
Cause?
I questioned back then and Ithink I stopped a bit.
But then when I dealt with allof my health issues and I was
basically being told like it'sin your head or oh, it's just
(06:43):
IBS, you can take this for itand maybe that'll help, or get
on some birth control, andnothing was helping me because I
was doing everything theysuggested.
It's like this isn't, thisdoesn't feel right, and so
that's when the questions beganof what else could be going on.
Why don't they know everything?
Why isn't this helping me?
How am I different from otherpeople if they're getting relief
(07:03):
and I'm not?
And so it just starts to spiraland that's what we want.
But I will also say there's adelicate balance here, because I
used to tell my students when Iwas teaching question
everything.
I legit.
That was one of the things Iwould tell them every year.
If you take away nothing fromwhat I have taught you, question
(07:24):
everything.
Question why you're beingtaught this, it's you know what
I mean.
So there's a balance betweenasking an outside source, but
there's also you have to lookwithin and ask these questions,
and I hope that makes sense withwhat I'm saying.
So, like you know, causesometimes people will come to me
and they're like here's my listof 25 questions.
(07:46):
I'm like that's great, we'regoing to talk through this.
But you also have to lookinside and ask yourself some of
these questions.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
You can't just seek external right, right, and I I
completely agree with you.
Yes, so do seek the outside,but also, ultimately, at the end
of the day, you do have yourall of the answers, and
sometimes I mean correct me ifI'm wrong, kira.
I'm sure it's happened with youbefore.
Uh, someone can give you anadvice or tell you to do
something, whether it's businessrelated, health related or
(08:14):
whatever, and then you're likebut that doesn't my, my
intuition doesn't tell me.
You know, like, it tells medifferently.
Listen to that, right, I knowthat we've experienced that in
business, right, where someonewould tell us to do this
strategy.
It's like wait a minute, butthis strategy is not working for
us.
Well, the strategy is notworking for us because we are
two different humans having adifferent experience, and that
(08:36):
person giving the strategy.
So, yes, learn, absolutely beopen, ask the questions.
However, ultimately, consultwith your inner guide, which is
you know you, your inner self,your inner world, and see how it
feels, and not just also takeum, you know, like I mean, you
can be reading a book and like Idon't agree with this, and
(08:56):
that's okay, right, and that'sfine.
You can agree with some things,you can be listening to a
podcast and learning some thingsand be like, oh, I'm going to
learn this stuff.
And that I mean the, the.
The purpose of this episodetoday is just constantly being
having an open mindset, a growthmindset, constantly wanting to
(09:16):
grow, constantly wanting to bethe better version of yourself,
evolving, your soul coming, youknow, remembering your soul's
mission, versus constantly beingrigid.
And especially right now,there's so much noise out.
You know whether it's thesocial media noise, it's the
news noise, the.
I mean I, you can get news fromanywhere now, I swear like even
on the phone, like, like youknow those, like, whatever it's
(09:39):
like I don't want to get this,and so that's that's what I feel
like it's really, reallyimportant to just, you know,
being open and growing, versuskind of like plateauing and
giving up and be like you know,that's it, I did this.
Or, or you know, I'm 70, I'm,I'm, you know, 65.
(10:00):
That's it for me.
What does that mean?
Like when people say that youknow what I mean, like oh, it's
too late for me to change.
It's like, yeah, yeah,especially especially the older
generation, right, like you know, yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
Like one thing that you said that just jumped out at
me too is when we're askingquestions, I wish oh, I keep I'm
racking my brain as I'm sittinghere of like what is the quote?
But one of my business mentorshad a really good quote and I'm
going to butcher this, but itwas something around like the
quality of.
I think that was it.
The quality of your questionsdetermines the quality of your
(10:38):
life, so it's also again, thisis where the internal versus
external comes in.
There are times for externalquestions, but if you keep
asking what supplement is goingto help with this, or what lab
should I run, or I'm trying tothink of stuff outside health,
because that's where my mindgoes, guys, but what quality
(10:58):
should I be drinking?
Speaker 1 (11:01):
What trend should I be following?
Speaker 2 (11:04):
Versus something more high quality of why is my body
showing me these symptoms?
What is my body asking for thatI'm not giving it?
Why don't I feel safe?
Why is that creating someissues?
How am I choosing to suppresssomething Like?
There's so many other questionsyou could ask in your life.
Right, this doesn't have to behealth related, but it does go
(11:26):
back to.
Are you asking high qualityquestions If not, start to
change those, because that'sgoing to allow for more of that
growth mindset too.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
Absolutely, and I love that you mentioned that
exactly Like, why am I beingtriggered or activated by this,
right?
Why am I, why is my bodytensing like this when, when
this happens, or I'm, when I'maround this person or whatever?
So, yeah, no, I'm really happythat you mentioned this, because
it is the quality of thequestions that you ask, and also
(11:56):
being patient with the answer,because sometimes we do ask and
we meditate and answers don'tcome and like what's wrong with
me, there's nothing wrong withyou.
The answers that you need willdefinitely come.
Um, but also like, maybe justbecause, like just being
self-aware of the openness,right, that's what we're trying
to kind of like, you know, wakeup in you.
(12:16):
It's like constantly, you know,being self-aware of being open,
asking the questions, asking,changing the quality of the
questions you ask and in pursuitof constantly, because we're
constantly wanting to become thebetter version of ourselves,
right?
So that's that's how yourquestions, you know, want to be
geared toward, right, whetherit's health, it's business,
(12:38):
it's's finances, familyrelationships, whatever it is,
what is the question that I wantto ask that is going to lead me
to becoming the better version?
Speaker 2 (12:52):
of myself, and I also think you could look at it as
where in my life do I have thebiggest struggle?
Is it in relationships?
Is it in finance?
Is it in my health?
Is it in spirituality,something else, whatever?
Where is that struggle?
Right, take note of what'sgoing on in your life and then,
when you have that struggle,okay now.
(13:13):
Where is there a closed mindset?
Where's their growth mindset?
How can I start to ask thosebetter questions instead of why
am I always broke?
Why does this always happen tome?
Those aren't helpful questions.
You're not going to getanywhere with them.
So what?
You know what within me iscausing me to stay in this space
(13:33):
?
Or you know like there are somany ways you could take this.
I can't give you guys a ton ofquestions, but if you can get to
the point of, okay, this is astruggle in my life, start
asking questions and keepdigging into it.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
I mean we are giving you a lot of examples of
questions, because when you weretalking I started writing down
another question what patternskeep showing up?
This is beautiful, right.
What patterns keep showing upin my life?
Uh, that keep repeating.
What experiences keep showingup in my life, right?
(14:11):
So if you look at those, youyou know those questions will
start really revealing theanswers.
Right, because you know you'requestioning as well.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
And it's like what you've said in the past and I'm
sure we've both said it, butit's like if things keep showing
up in your life similarrelationships, similar patterns,
circumstances, whatever you'regoing to have to start, those
are lessons that you have notlearned from yet.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
Yes, so figure it out Exactly.
And I mean it still happens toyou and me.
There's still lessons that wehave not learned, and but this
is where you know, and I meanI've noticed a lot of growth in
myself by when I started askingthose questions and I started
looking within.
Instead of, like you know, thishappened, I'm going to blame
(14:57):
and point fingers, you know,instead of just like, why is
this happening right now?
Like hmm, you know like what'sinside of me, what's what's
happening in my body, you know?
And yesterday I had an amazingtarot reading session and as we
were going through the reading,um, you know, she picked up some
patterns and she guided methrough it.
I was like she picked up somepatterns and she guided me
(15:18):
through it.
I was like where do you feel itin your body?
And then what is it?
And I like the answers werejust coming out without me
thinking about it.
So I understand that I did thisprocess with somebody, but that
doesn't mean that I can't do itby myself.
So it's also important to, whenyou do get the emotions, ask
about the emotions.
Yeah, where do I feel the angerin my body?
(15:39):
Or where do I feel thehappiness?
Even the happiness doesn't haveto be just the positive,
negative emotions.
Give me the positive emotions,right.
So I know that we focus toomuch on the negative.
I get it, but because we wantto heal that part, right, we
want to integrate and accept it,I also want to say, though I
mean we can, we can also askabout positive emotions.
(15:59):
Sorry, there was a lag Um I knowwhat happens, Like I don't know
what happened.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
We're going to see that blipped for you guys.
Um, but you said somethingthere too, and I think this can
be important of.
Sometimes we view healing aslike our own journey, and it is
right.
We're unique individuals, butthere is nothing wrong with
having a healing buddy.
You know, like Denise is myhealing buddy when I'm like, oh
my gosh, I'm trying to askmyself questions here.
(16:25):
Or is this my intuition, or isthis fear?
I mean, I asked you somethingyesterday and I asked you
something today and you give mesome of those questions that I
can then ask myself that maybe Iwasn't thinking about.
So I don't want you guys tofeel like, oh, this healing
journey is completely on my own.
Yes, it's your responsibility,but you can have those healing
(16:47):
buddies people to bounce ideasoff of.
I would just encourage you tomake sure that they are in a
similar exploratory phase as you, because if you partner up with
someone who's like I don't know, your life sucks or everything
you know what I mean.
Like everything happens for you,I just, oh my gosh, I feel so
bad, like we don't want to getinto that.
(17:07):
You want someone who is goingto pose some of those questions
to you where it is creating moreof a growth mindset.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
And may I also add, like, and also don't be
discouraged, the right personwill definitely you'll, you'll,
you'll find the right person,your healing buddy.
But also, like I did noticethat, like I do have some
friends that when I talk to them, they constantly want to give
you advice or the tips.
(17:35):
It's like, well, I'm notlooking for that.
So you know, and I love thesepeople, but then I just know
what to talk to them about,whereas with you, kira, like
Kira is also my healing buddyAbsolutely, and and I love that
we also ask each other questionsversus you know, or it could be
(17:55):
.
It's appearing to me this way isthis coming from this or from
that?
You know what I mean, butthere's constantly questions
among both of us.
But I wasn't like that becauseI was the person.
I mean.
You know, arabs do that theyimmediately want to give you
tips and advice.
So that's how I grew up andit's like.
Now it's like, no, thank you, Idon't, you know.
(18:16):
I ask if, when someone'scomplaining to me and blah, blah
, blah, talking my ear off, I'mlike do you want me to give you
advice or you just want to vent?
Yeah, and if they're venting,then they're venting, and if
they want advice, then I knowthat they want advice and I give
them advice.
So yeah.
I think that's important.
It is, it's very important, butit's really.
And then also to find like Imean, I do find healers and I
(18:40):
work with healers that Iencounter in my life like next
week, I have a a session with ahealer.
I don't know what we're gonnado, though either cord cutting
or whatever, or reiki but I'mconstantly also like connecting
with people, that just that Imeet and I'm like I love your
(19:02):
energy and I want to work withyou.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
So and I want to see what else there is to explore,
and that's the thing.
So if I look back, I meanprobably even five years ago,
but definitely 10 years ago.
If you said something likeReiki or tarot cards, I would
have probably even five yearsago, but definitely 10 years ago
.
If you said something likeReiki or tarot cards, I would
have jumped back Like that wouldnot have felt you know what I
mean.
It would have felt like, oh mygosh, this is witchcraft.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
Oh, same Girl.
I grew up in the church too Iknow, but that's what I'm saying
.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
One of the things I want to say is questioning does
not mean dishonoring and itdoesn't mean you have to change
your beliefs, right?
Even though Denise and I maybeallow some of that stuff in now,
you don't have to.
You can still question and goback to what you believed before
, but it makes you more powerful.
It gives you that conviction ofrather oh, I don't want to
(19:51):
question that because I don'tknow what's going to happen.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
Yeah, no, but exactly it may not resonate with you,
it resonates with me, like youknow.
I even told you yesterday thatwhen you and I were recording, I
was feeling a little down,whatever.
And then, after I had my tarot,and then I went through that
process and kind of somethingshowed up and it was like whoa,
like I've been staying away fromit.
(20:13):
And it showed up Like whoa,like I've been staying away from
it.
And it showed up like you knowwhat I mean.
So it was just I like it, Ienjoy it, I enjoy Reiki, I enjoy
these modalities, I enjoy goingto the new moon ceremony.
So the full moon ceremony, thesound, bath, breath, work.
However, some people may not andthey may still, you know, have
their faith Absolutely.
We still have ours, but you doit differently.
(20:35):
You know what I mean, like, butwhat we're telling you is just
be open to any modality oranything that you want, ask the
quality questions and do what'sresonating with you, not having
to, like, impress other people.
So it's like Reiki resonateswith you, but you don't want to
do it because your religion doesnot allow it.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
This is, you're giving your power away, right
yeah and question why you havethat belief then then you can go
back to was this belief justpassed down to me?
Did somebody tell me that thiswas bad?
How do I know that this istruth and that's what I always?
How do you know that?
Speaker 1 (21:14):
you're gonna go to hell actually for doing reiki
and tarot, because that's what Ialways go back to.
How do you know that you'regoing to go to hell actually for
doing Reiki and Tarot, becausethat's what people say, I know.
Is that true Really?
Have you been to hell and cameback and really like told us
that you know what I mean?
Like some people talk aboutheaven and hell as if it's like
you know, there's a membershipand there's a key.
You know what I mean?
(21:44):
I don't know.
We gave you a lot of questions.
Um, just look at areas in yourlife.
I would definitely don't lookat all of them, just look at one
at a time and see where youwant to ask.
Oh, I mean, the very firstquestions I started asking is
what is my dharma?
What is my soul's purpose?
Who am I?
You know, why am I here?
(22:06):
What is my soul's mission?
And um, and I kept you knowasking that and asking that, and
things start started appearingand appearing and appearing.
So if you so if you are afraidto question or start asking
questions, you don't know whatto say, you can just go to what
is my soul's mission?
(22:27):
Why am I here?
What is my purpose on thisearth, and that doesn't need to
be journaled.
You can just keep asking itwhile you're doing the dishes
and the answers will come to you, I promise.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
Yeah, and even if it's around health too, it's
like okay, if I don't know whereto start start with.
What could these symptoms beshowing me?
And going back to what you said, what's my purpose in life?
Am I supposed to go throughthis experience for something
greater?
And if so, what could that be,instead of just staying stuck in
?
Oh my gosh, this sucks.
I'm never going to feel better.
(22:57):
You're not going to grow inthat space.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
No, yeah, so that's what we wanted to talk about
today is just being open,growing and asking better
questions and living and livingthe life that you, you know you
were meant to live, versus, youknow, making choices from that
you know, because, at the end ofthe day, it's all about free
(23:20):
will, it's all about the choicesthat you make.
No one, you know, is coming andholding you by the hand.
I keep saying that it's you,it's you, it's you.
So sometimes we ignore thesigns, sometimes we ignore the
symptoms, we ignore thesynchronicities.
You ignore the synchronous, thesynchronicities.
So that's maybe this episode,hopefully, will kind of activate
some of that within you.
(23:41):
Call it out, yeah, yeah, callit out, because your life will
definitely change.
It will.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
It will Awesome.
Okay, well, as always, leave usa review.
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Do something, give us feedback.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
You know Miskira's going to Europe right Next week.
You're leaving to Europe.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
I am, I'm so excited.
Maybe I'll have some ahamoments for upcoming podcasts.
Oh, that would be awesome.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
And we're still working on our project, our
revamping, but because it'ssummertime and we have a lot of
things going on, but we're stillworking on it behind the scenes
and you will be the first onesto know when it's released.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
Yes, you will.
All right, guys, we'll see youon the next episode.
Welcome to the Heal Yourself Podcast, where we dive
deep into all things healing.
I'm Denise, a speech andlanguage pathologist and a
self-love coach for adults andteens.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
And I'm Kira, a traditional naturopath and
functional nutritionist, andwe're here to guide you through
the transformative process ofhealing your body, mind and soul
From the latest in functionalmedicine, of healing your body,
mind and soul, from the latestin functional medicine to
nurturing your relationship withyourself, healing trauma and
even transforming your moneystory.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
we're here to empower you with the knowledge and
tools to create lasting change.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
So, whether you're looking to heal physically,
emotionally or spiritually, joinus as we explore the many paths
to wholeness and wellness.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
Welcome to another episode.
Today you have both of us, kiraand Denise, and we are talking
all about learning and beingopen, having a growth mindset to
learn, and you know there's somuch in the world to learn, so
that's what we're talking abouttoday.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
So much to learn.
But I think there is so much tolearn, there is so much to
learn and I think there's adifference between just learning
, being open and questioningthings, cause I I feel like
that's you know, you guys knowby now Denise and I leave each
other WhatsApp messages all thetime and then sometimes it's
like oh, this is an idea for apodcast, you left me the message
for this, but I'm like allright, take it away.
(01:33):
But I think part of it camefrom questioning, which you and
I had this conversationyesterday.
I think questioning is good andfor some reason, people don't
like to do that.
There's like fear around.
I don't want to question that.
What if it changes my beliefs?
What if I question it?
Speaker 1 (01:47):
and it's wrong, and that is Well, because that's
what we were raised I mean, noteverybody, but a lot of the
people were raised to becomplacent, not to question
authority, not to questionreligious leaders, not to
question higher people than youor whatever Doctors exactly.
(02:08):
Don't question like someone whois.
And I mean I have to, like youknow.
I mean I think because Iremember my students and that's
maybe this is how the topic cameout and I left you this message
is, you know, because you know,now I do see my private clients
, um, at home and I have thelittles and I have, you know,
(02:28):
the teenagers, and with mystudents, who tend to be like
you know, who are older than sixyears old, when they're two and
a half and three, like we'redoing mindfulness a little bit
different.
But, uh, I do a lot ofmindfulness with my students and
I notice, especially with thekids on the spectrum, they need
that grounding in order to havea successful session right, or
(02:51):
even if we're having a sessionand they just start like getting
so distracted, you know webring back with and then we
bring back with, either you know, deep breathing or any of the
mindfulness stretching exercisesthat I do with them but that
just opens them up to and I dothat with my in-person kiddos
too that I see at school, and Istarted to notice in myself that
(03:12):
the more open-minded I am andquestioning and like asking
questions and being curiousabout things, I am more open to
learning.
Yeah, so like you can talk aboutsomething, because I do have
the religious experience thatyou and I share that maybe we
can kind of like go back andforth about, because for the
(03:32):
longest time I would just thinklike, oh, my religion is the
religion and like, if you're notgoing to mass and you know,
getting communion, what's gonnahappen to you?
Like that's what I used tothink and I was like nothing,
nothing is going to happen tothem.
They have their own faith.
You know what I mean.
So it's like so that thatreally opened my eyes to being
(03:53):
open to accepting otherreligions, other spiritual
beliefs as well, instead ofbeing so rigid.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
Yeah, Well, I mean, I can obviously chat on that and
I want to tie it into health tooand I'll come back to that.
But yeah, I mean, you and Igrew up Catholic and it was the
same thing.
It's like I went to churchevery week.
If you miss mass, you had to goto confession.
And then there's the wholepurgatory thing.
And well, if I miss and I don'tgo to confession, or if I don't
(04:21):
tell the priest something, am Iadding a day, Am I adding a
month to purgatory?
What does that look like?
And it's almost like I viewedother religions as not bad, but
it's like, oh, they have theirbeliefs, so therefore this
happens to them.
They don't fit into our box,which is weird, Cause then it
would be like well, then there'smultiple gods who were like
(04:42):
here's the rules for you andhere's the rules for you.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
I know, I know, and that's why you and I I mean I
know you've been questioning andbeing curious way before me I
still had a rigid mindset for awhile, but yeah, I feel like
just asking questions and beingcurious is just allowing us to
be more accepting.
It's not just also learningmore things, but being more
accepting.
(05:06):
But yeah, like I swear I usedto think I promise I mean like,
because you know how in thecatholic church they teach that
you know the um, the, thecommunion is really, really
important, right, and and I'mlike, but but the communion is
not in every religion.
So to me, I was like, so ifsomeone does not get communion,
like that means that theirreligion is fake, their religion
(05:28):
is false and they're not goingto be saved.
You know, and, and that was likeit's such a rigid mindset, yeah
and um, but yeah, now I acceptall religions, spiritualities
and or beliefs or whatever, andand to each their own, or maybe
in the past, like, oh, thisperson is atheist, there was so
(05:48):
much around that but it's like,but that's just their beliefs
and that's okay.
You know what I mean.
So that's being open to justwith everything I would love to
talk about.
You know health and maybe likeso we did mention questioning
doctors because a lot I'm sureyou have seen that a lot oh yeah
, your clients, right, you know,either you know they want to
(06:11):
question or they don't want toquestion, and then they just
keep taking the medication, yeah, or assume like, okay, he told
me everything on my labs looksfine, so therefore it's fine,
and that I mean for ourlisteners.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
I have a feeling a lot have dealt with health
issues and so this is a commonone.
And honestly, it's where Ireally did start to question
things like, yes, I was theannoying kid that would be like,
but why?
But why?
Cause?
I questioned back then and Ithink I stopped a bit.
But then when I dealt with allof my health issues and I was
basically being told like it'sin your head or oh, it's just
(06:43):
IBS, you can take this for itand maybe that'll help, or get
on some birth control, andnothing was helping me because I
was doing everything theysuggested.
It's like this isn't, thisdoesn't feel right, and so
that's when the questions beganof what else could be going on.
Why don't they know everything?
Why isn't this helping me?
How am I different from otherpeople if they're getting relief
(07:03):
and I'm not?
And so it just starts to spiraland that's what we want.
But I will also say there's adelicate balance here, because I
used to tell my students when Iwas teaching question
everything.
I legit.
That was one of the things Iwould tell them every year.
If you take away nothing fromwhat I have taught you, question
(07:24):
everything.
Question why you're beingtaught this, it's you know what
I mean.
So there's a balance betweenasking an outside source, but
there's also you have to lookwithin and ask these questions,
and I hope that makes sense withwhat I'm saying.
So, like you know, causesometimes people will come to me
and they're like here's my listof 25 questions.
(07:46):
I'm like that's great, we'regoing to talk through this.
But you also have to lookinside and ask yourself some of
these questions.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
You can't just seek external right, right, and I I
completely agree with you.
Yes, so do seek the outside,but also, ultimately, at the end
of the day, you do have yourall of the answers, and
sometimes I mean correct me ifI'm wrong, kira.
I'm sure it's happened with youbefore.
Uh, someone can give you anadvice or tell you to do
something, whether it's businessrelated, health related or
(08:14):
whatever, and then you're likebut that doesn't my, my
intuition doesn't tell me.
You know, like, it tells medifferently.
Listen to that, right, I knowthat we've experienced that in
business, right, where someonewould tell us to do this
strategy.
It's like wait a minute, butthis strategy is not working for
us.
Well, the strategy is notworking for us because we are
two different humans having adifferent experience, and that
(08:36):
person giving the strategy.
So, yes, learn, absolutely beopen, ask the questions.
However, ultimately, consultwith your inner guide, which is
you know you, your inner self,your inner world, and see how it
feels, and not just also takeum, you know, like I mean, you
can be reading a book and like Idon't agree with this, and
(08:56):
that's okay, right, and that'sfine.
You can agree with some things,you can be listening to a
podcast and learning some thingsand be like, oh, I'm going to
learn this stuff.
And that I mean the, the.
The purpose of this episodetoday is just constantly being
having an open mindset, a growthmindset, constantly wanting to
(09:16):
grow, constantly wanting to bethe better version of yourself,
evolving, your soul coming, youknow, remembering your soul's
mission, versus constantly beingrigid.
And especially right now,there's so much noise out.
You know whether it's thesocial media noise, it's the
news noise, the.
I mean I, you can get news fromanywhere now, I swear like even
on the phone, like, like youknow those, like, whatever it's
(09:39):
like I don't want to get this,and so that's that's what I feel
like it's really, reallyimportant to just, you know,
being open and growing, versuskind of like plateauing and
giving up and be like you know,that's it, I did this.
Or, or you know, I'm 70, I'm,I'm, you know, 65.
(10:00):
That's it for me.
What does that mean?
Like when people say that youknow what I mean, like oh, it's
too late for me to change.
It's like, yeah, yeah,especially especially the older
generation, right, like you know, yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
Like one thing that you said that just jumped out at
me too is when we're askingquestions, I wish oh, I keep I'm
racking my brain as I'm sittinghere of like what is the quote?
But one of my business mentorshad a really good quote and I'm
going to butcher this, but itwas something around like the
quality of.
I think that was it.
The quality of your questionsdetermines the quality of your
(10:38):
life, so it's also again, thisis where the internal versus
external comes in.
There are times for externalquestions, but if you keep
asking what supplement is goingto help with this, or what lab
should I run, or I'm trying tothink of stuff outside health,
because that's where my mindgoes, guys, but what quality
(10:58):
should I be drinking?
Speaker 1 (11:01):
What trend should I be following?
Speaker 2 (11:04):
Versus something more high quality of why is my body
showing me these symptoms?
What is my body asking for thatI'm not giving it?
Why don't I feel safe?
Why is that creating someissues?
How am I choosing to suppresssomething Like?
There's so many other questionsyou could ask in your life.
Right, this doesn't have to behealth related, but it does go
(11:26):
back to.
Are you asking high qualityquestions If not, start to
change those, because that'sgoing to allow for more of that
growth mindset too.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
Absolutely, and I love that you mentioned that
exactly Like, why am I beingtriggered or activated by this,
right?
Why am I, why is my bodytensing like this when, when
this happens, or I'm, when I'maround this person or whatever?
So, yeah, no, I'm really happythat you mentioned this, because
it is the quality of thequestions that you ask, and also
(11:56):
being patient with the answer,because sometimes we do ask and
we meditate and answers don'tcome and like what's wrong with
me, there's nothing wrong withyou.
The answers that you need willdefinitely come.
Um, but also like, maybe justbecause, like just being
self-aware of the openness,right, that's what we're trying
to kind of like, you know, wakeup in you.
(12:16):
It's like constantly, you know,being self-aware of being open,
asking the questions, asking,changing the quality of the
questions you ask and in pursuitof constantly, because we're
constantly wanting to become thebetter version of ourselves,
right?
So that's that's how yourquestions, you know, want to be
geared toward, right, whetherit's health, it's business,
(12:38):
it's's finances, familyrelationships, whatever it is,
what is the question that I wantto ask that is going to lead me
to becoming the better version?
Speaker 2 (12:52):
of myself, and I also think you could look at it as
where in my life do I have thebiggest struggle?
Is it in relationships?
Is it in finance?
Is it in my health?
Is it in spirituality,something else, whatever?
Where is that struggle?
Right, take note of what'sgoing on in your life and then,
when you have that struggle,okay now.
(13:13):
Where is there a closed mindset?
Where's their growth mindset?
How can I start to ask thosebetter questions instead of why
am I always broke?
Why does this always happen tome?
Those aren't helpful questions.
You're not going to getanywhere with them.
So what?
You know what within me iscausing me to stay in this space
(13:33):
?
Or you know like there are somany ways you could take this.
I can't give you guys a ton ofquestions, but if you can get to
the point of, okay, this is astruggle in my life, start
asking questions and keepdigging into it.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
I mean we are giving you a lot of examples of
questions, because when you weretalking I started writing down
another question what patternskeep showing up?
This is beautiful, right.
What patterns keep showing upin my life?
Uh, that keep repeating.
What experiences keep showingup in my life, right?
(14:11):
So if you look at those, youyou know those questions will
start really revealing theanswers.
Right, because you know you'requestioning as well.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
And it's like what you've said in the past and I'm
sure we've both said it, butit's like if things keep showing
up in your life similarrelationships, similar patterns,
circumstances, whatever you'regoing to have to start, those
are lessons that you have notlearned from yet.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
Yes, so figure it out Exactly.
And I mean it still happens toyou and me.
There's still lessons that wehave not learned, and but this
is where you know, and I meanI've noticed a lot of growth in
myself by when I started askingthose questions and I started
looking within.
Instead of, like you know, thishappened, I'm going to blame
(14:57):
and point fingers, you know,instead of just like, why is
this happening right now?
Like hmm, you know like what'sinside of me, what's what's
happening in my body, you know?
And yesterday I had an amazingtarot reading session and as we
were going through the reading,um, you know, she picked up some
patterns and she guided methrough it.
I was like she picked up somepatterns and she guided me
(15:18):
through it.
I was like where do you feel itin your body?
And then what is it?
And I like the answers werejust coming out without me
thinking about it.
So I understand that I did thisprocess with somebody, but that
doesn't mean that I can't do itby myself.
So it's also important to, whenyou do get the emotions, ask
about the emotions.
Yeah, where do I feel the angerin my body?
(15:39):
Or where do I feel thehappiness?
Even the happiness doesn't haveto be just the positive,
negative emotions.
Give me the positive emotions,right.
So I know that we focus toomuch on the negative.
I get it, but because we wantto heal that part, right, we
want to integrate and accept it,I also want to say, though I
mean we can, we can also askabout positive emotions.
(15:59):
Sorry, there was a lag Um I knowwhat happens, Like I don't know
what happened.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
We're going to see that blipped for you guys.
Um, but you said somethingthere too, and I think this can
be important of.
Sometimes we view healing aslike our own journey, and it is
right.
We're unique individuals, butthere is nothing wrong with
having a healing buddy.
You know, like Denise is myhealing buddy when I'm like, oh
my gosh, I'm trying to askmyself questions here.
(16:25):
Or is this my intuition, or isthis fear?
I mean, I asked you somethingyesterday and I asked you
something today and you give mesome of those questions that I
can then ask myself that maybe Iwasn't thinking about.
So I don't want you guys tofeel like, oh, this healing
journey is completely on my own.
Yes, it's your responsibility,but you can have those healing
(16:47):
buddies people to bounce ideasoff of.
I would just encourage you tomake sure that they are in a
similar exploratory phase as you, because if you partner up with
someone who's like I don't know, your life sucks or everything
you know what I mean.
Like everything happens for you,I just, oh my gosh, I feel so
bad, like we don't want to getinto that.
(17:07):
You want someone who is goingto pose some of those questions
to you where it is creating moreof a growth mindset.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
And may I also add, like, and also don't be
discouraged, the right personwill definitely you'll, you'll,
you'll find the right person,your healing buddy.
But also, like I did noticethat, like I do have some
friends that when I talk to them, they constantly want to give
you advice or the tips.
(17:35):
It's like, well, I'm notlooking for that.
So you know, and I love thesepeople, but then I just know
what to talk to them about,whereas with you, kira, like
Kira is also my healing buddyAbsolutely, and and I love that
we also ask each other questionsversus you know, or it could be
(17:55):
.
It's appearing to me this way isthis coming from this or from
that?
You know what I mean, butthere's constantly questions
among both of us.
But I wasn't like that becauseI was the person.
I mean.
You know, arabs do that theyimmediately want to give you
tips and advice.
So that's how I grew up andit's like.
Now it's like, no, thank you, Idon't, you know.
(18:16):
I ask if, when someone'scomplaining to me and blah, blah
, blah, talking my ear off, I'mlike do you want me to give you
advice or you just want to vent?
Yeah, and if they're venting,then they're venting, and if
they want advice, then I knowthat they want advice and I give
them advice.
So yeah.
I think that's important.
It is, it's very important, butit's really.
And then also to find like Imean, I do find healers and I
(18:40):
work with healers that Iencounter in my life like next
week, I have a a session with ahealer.
I don't know what we're gonnado, though either cord cutting
or whatever, or reiki but I'mconstantly also like connecting
with people, that just that Imeet and I'm like I love your
(19:02):
energy and I want to work withyou.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
So and I want to see what else there is to explore,
and that's the thing.
So if I look back, I meanprobably even five years ago,
but definitely 10 years ago.
If you said something likeReiki or tarot cards, I would
have probably even five yearsago, but definitely 10 years ago
.
If you said something likeReiki or tarot cards, I would
have jumped back Like that wouldnot have felt you know what I
mean.
It would have felt like, oh mygosh, this is witchcraft.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
Oh, same Girl.
I grew up in the church too Iknow, but that's what I'm saying
.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
One of the things I want to say is questioning does
not mean dishonoring and itdoesn't mean you have to change
your beliefs, right?
Even though Denise and I maybeallow some of that stuff in now,
you don't have to.
You can still question and goback to what you believed before
, but it makes you more powerful.
It gives you that conviction ofrather oh, I don't want to
(19:51):
question that because I don'tknow what's going to happen.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
Yeah, no, but exactly it may not resonate with you,
it resonates with me, like youknow.
I even told you yesterday thatwhen you and I were recording, I
was feeling a little down,whatever.
And then, after I had my tarot,and then I went through that
process and kind of somethingshowed up and it was like whoa,
like I've been staying away fromit.
(20:13):
And it showed up Like whoa,like I've been staying away from
it.
And it showed up like you knowwhat I mean.
So it was just I like it, Ienjoy it, I enjoy Reiki, I enjoy
these modalities, I enjoy goingto the new moon ceremony.
So the full moon ceremony, thesound, bath, breath, work.
However, some people may not andthey may still, you know, have
their faith Absolutely.
We still have ours, but you doit differently.
(20:35):
You know what I mean, like, butwhat we're telling you is just
be open to any modality oranything that you want, ask the
quality questions and do what'sresonating with you, not having
to, like, impress other people.
So it's like Reiki resonateswith you, but you don't want to
do it because your religion doesnot allow it.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
This is, you're giving your power away, right
yeah and question why you havethat belief then then you can go
back to was this belief justpassed down to me?
Did somebody tell me that thiswas bad?
How do I know that this istruth and that's what I always?
How do you know that?
Speaker 1 (21:14):
you're gonna go to hell actually for doing reiki
and tarot, because that's what Ialways go back to.
How do you know that you'regoing to go to hell actually for
doing Reiki and Tarot, becausethat's what people say, I know.
Is that true Really?
Have you been to hell and cameback and really like told us
that you know what I mean?
Like some people talk aboutheaven and hell as if it's like
you know, there's a membershipand there's a key.
You know what I mean?
(21:44):
I don't know.
We gave you a lot of questions.
Um, just look at areas in yourlife.
I would definitely don't lookat all of them, just look at one
at a time and see where youwant to ask.
Oh, I mean, the very firstquestions I started asking is
what is my dharma?
What is my soul's purpose?
Who am I?
You know, why am I here?
(22:06):
What is my soul's mission?
And um, and I kept you knowasking that and asking that, and
things start started appearingand appearing and appearing.
So if you so if you are afraidto question or start asking
questions, you don't know whatto say, you can just go to what
is my soul's mission?
(22:27):
Why am I here?
What is my purpose on thisearth, and that doesn't need to
be journaled.
You can just keep asking itwhile you're doing the dishes
and the answers will come to you, I promise.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
Yeah, and even if it's around health too, it's
like okay, if I don't know whereto start start with.
What could these symptoms beshowing me?
And going back to what you said, what's my purpose in life?
Am I supposed to go throughthis experience for something
greater?
And if so, what could that be,instead of just staying stuck in
?
Oh my gosh, this sucks.
I'm never going to feel better.
(22:57):
You're not going to grow inthat space.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
No, yeah, so that's what we wanted to talk about
today is just being open,growing and asking better
questions and living and livingthe life that you, you know you
were meant to live, versus, youknow, making choices from that
you know, because, at the end ofthe day, it's all about free
(23:20):
will, it's all about the choicesthat you make.
No one, you know, is coming andholding you by the hand.
I keep saying that it's you,it's you, it's you.
So sometimes we ignore thesigns, sometimes we ignore the
symptoms, we ignore thesynchronicities.
You ignore the synchronous, thesynchronicities.
So that's maybe this episode,hopefully, will kind of activate
some of that within you.
(23:41):
Call it out, yeah, yeah, callit out, because your life will
definitely change.
It will.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
It will Awesome.
Okay, well, as always, leave usa review.
You know what to do.
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Do something, give us feedback.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
You know Miskira's going to Europe right Next week.
You're leaving to Europe.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
I am, I'm so excited.
Maybe I'll have some ahamoments for upcoming podcasts.
Oh, that would be awesome.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
And we're still working on our project, our
revamping, but because it'ssummertime and we have a lot of
things going on, but we're stillworking on it behind the scenes
and you will be the first onesto know when it's released.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
Yes, you will.
All right, guys, we'll see youon the next episode.
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