October 9, 2025 • 32 mins
Katie Connelly joins us to demystify the buzzword "somatic experiencing" and shares how reconnecting with our body's wisdom creates profound healing. Drawing from her background as a clinical counselor, craniosacral therapist, and yoga teacher, Katie explains that somatic work is fundamentally about understanding what our physiological sensations are trying to tell us.
Katie's journey began in childhood when her mother introduced breathwork and meditation to help manage anxiety. At just seven years old, she discovered yoga poses created physical sensations that released emotional tension – the foundation of what we now call somatic experiencing. After reconnecting with this wisdom following a near-death experience in her twenties, Katie dedicated her professional life to helping others access their body intelligence.
About Katie:
Katie Connolly is an award winning Somatic Parenting Coach and parent of two, bridging science and intuition in her work with neurodiverse families. She is a Clinical Counsellor, Craniosacral & Somatic Therapist, and founded a Registered Children's Yoga School. Her mission is to foster a world where children grow confident in their bodies, voices, and gifts so they can gloWithin™.
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Welcome to the Heal Yourself Podcast, where we dive
deep into all things healing.
I'm Denise, a speech andlanguage pathologist and a
self-love coach for adults andteens.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
And I'm Kira, a traditional naturopath and
functional nutritionist, andwe're here to guide you through
the transformative process ofhealing your body, mind and soul
From the latest in functionalmedicine, of healing your body,
mind and soul, from the latestin functional medicine to
nurturing your relationship withyourself, healing trauma and
even transforming your moneystory.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
we're here to empower you with the knowledge and
tools to create lasting change.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
So, whether you're looking to heal physically,
emotionally or spiritually, joinus as we explore the many paths
to wholeness and wellness.
Hey everyone, welcome back toanother episode of Heal Yourself
Podcast.
You have Kira and Denise today,and we are joined by special
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guest Katie.
Katie is a somatic coach andspeaker, bridging science and
intuition to empower her clientsand honoring their glow within
the light they came here toembody and share.
She's a clinical counselor,craniosacral and somatic
therapist expert, registeredyoga teacher, founded a
registered children's yogaschool and has won awards for
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her contributions for thebetterment of communities.
And I forgot to say your lastname it's Connelly.
So welcome, katie.
Thank you for having me.
So we always like to start byasking how did you get to this
place?
Tell us your journey.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
Yeah right, it really started when I was a child.
So I think my mom recognized mychildhood anxiety and ADHD
traits and so she reallyencouraged me to do breathwork
and meditation.
And then, when I was aboutseven, I didn't want to play
with my little cousins afterdinner so I went flipping
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through my my grants like 1970style yoga book, and I started
playing with some of the poses Ispecifically remember remember,
excuse me, candlestick, whereyour feet are up in the air and
back bends, and I realized itwas creating sensations in my
body, and so this is what is nowreally known as somatic
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experiencing.
And so there was a brief breakof that sort of that
disconnection with my body fromabout 10 to 21.
And then, after or during mynear death experience experience
, I really made a choice to comeback and I realized that I
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needed to reconnect with thiswork, and so that's why I do
what I do, and so Iprofessionally pursued it,
taking it in a variety ofdirections that he read from
like yoga to craniosacral andsomatic work to clinical
counseling.
So, yeah, wow.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
Journey in a nutshell yeah, it sounds like a journey.
Talk to us a little bit aboutsomatic experiencing, because
right now I know we talkedbefore we hit record there's a
lot of buzzwords out there inthe health world, especially in
the holistic health space,nervous system regulation,
somatic movement, somaticexperiencing like what do you
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want to say about these things?
Because I think people don'teven know what they are and what
they mean.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
Yeah, and I think that's sort of what happens when
you have these unregulatedterms, right, like somatic has
become such a buzzword.
It's taking many forms and Ialso practice it in many forms,
depending on my client and theirneeds.
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So, at its core, soma meansbody.
So essentially we're talkingabout body work.
So we could include, um, breathwork in there, we could include
yoga, we could include, um whatelse, I don't know, anything
related to the body, right?
Um, when we go back to like theforefathers of somatic work
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we're looking at at like PeterLevine, bessel, van der Kolk
Well, there's a couple others,and shortly after my near death
experience, I started divinginto this because I was really
interested.
So, at its core, somaticexperiencing is really about
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understanding our physiologicalsensations.
So, like my tummy's grumblingyes, that can mean that you're
hungry, but maybe there's alsolike a bit of a pain in there.
So, like, what else is thisconnected to?
Is there nervousness in there,right?
So what does this meanemotionally?
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What else is it speaking to inour body?
So, when I go back to like thatcandlestick in the backbend that
I was talking about, thebackbend for me being a heart
opener, really released a lot ofanxiety for me, so that became
a tool that I used as a child.
So it's really about connectingthe emotions, the body, the
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intellect, all those layers ofourself, maybe the energetic or
that spiritual element, toholistically care for our body.
And so when we look at it froma yogic perspective because
that's part of my background wesee the koshas, which takes into
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account our physical, ourintellectual, our energetic and
our emotional, the indigenousmedicine wheel to something
similar.
Um, there's so many differenttraditions and cultures that
look at it very holistically andI feel like in the west we're
really starting to come back tothat which is beautiful and so
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needed.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
Katie, I do have a question.
I uh especially like you know,people starting out or whatever.
Why do people come to you like?
Why they're like, oh, we needyour help.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
Lots of different reasons.
Sometimes there's acute pain oran acute injury.
Often it's chronic.
So, for example, my gut hasbeen bothering me for a really
long time.
Okay, great.
So, as you both of you know, isthis a food related issue.
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So what are we eating?
How are we eating it?
What sort of like the foodcombinations?
That's not my territory.
That's where I recommend anaturopath.
But also, what else is going on?
What does our environment looklike?
What does our routine look like?
What is going on in our socialinteractions and support system?
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So it's not just looking at onespecific concern or looking at,
excuse me, from one viewpoint.
Right, it's like what's showingup in the rest of our world.
Why is this showing up?
And taking that really sort ofbroad view to better understand
how we can create a healthiersystem within and around us.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
Yeah, like a total mind-body approach which we love
.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
Totally.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
Yeah, I'm curious too .
So when you're doing somaticexperiencing with someone like
I'm going to expand uponDenise's question let's say I'm
coming to you with those chronicgut issues or with ongoing
anxiety, how do you teach methese Like?
Are you teaching me things todo on my own?
Am I learning to tap into thewisdom of my body?
Speaker 3 (07:57):
Yes, so it's um.
It depends on how I'm workingwith my clients.
So in a craniosacral sessionthat's a one-on-one um and
there's light touch involved.
So I always explain to clientssort of a bit of an overview of
how our nervous system and thecraniosacral system work, um,
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and then we do the one-on-oneand I give them exercises to
walk away with or whatever hasbeen intuited to walk away with,
um.
When I'm working with umchildren and parents, um, again,
I I always give an overviewbecause I think information is
really powerful, um, and then welook at different exercises
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that we can use.
So maybe those are likejournaling or body mapping
exercises, creative exercisesand movement exercises.
So like what has not beenintegrated into the body and how
can we do this to really allowpeople to thrive.
So it takes various, variousforms.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
Yeah, is this something that people can do on
their own?
Speaker 1 (09:11):
You know can I get on .
Speaker 2 (09:12):
YouTube and look up somatic experiencing and just
start doing some things.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
Yes, and no Body awareness, and even having the
bravery to and the courage to gowithin and to look can be
really daunting for a lot ofpeople and we can't do surgery
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on ourselves Right.
So, yes, you can learn aboutsome of these things.
Yes, you can learn about someof these things.
If you have a strong bodyawareness already, probably you
can start to put some of thesepieces together more easily.
But, like I was saying, formany this is really a daunting
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experience to even go with andbe like where is this showing up
?
From what past patterns orchildhood patterns even is it
related to um?
And that's where having someoneto guide you who is holistic
and aligned um to sort of bounceideas off of, can be really
helpful, and ideally someonewho's actually trauma-informed.
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Really really important.
Um, so, yeah, it's a practice.
I mean, we've been taught tooverride our body wisdom and our
intuition for so long.
Our society sort of teaches usto do this.
Um, we even look at likemarketing.
Right, we're taught not tolisten to our bodies, but yet
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that's where the greatest wisdomlies, and that's why I call the
brand Glow Within.
So yes and no.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
I have a question.
Yeah, go go.
We always interrupt each other.
Go, Denise, I know.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
Anywho, I do.
I have a question about this,because it is.
It has become pretty mainstream.
Like you know, people talkabout it.
There are more meditationcenters opening, there are a lot
of classes.
Like there's a lot of awarenessright now, whether it's social
media or you know, a lot ofpeople are knowing about it and
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you know I'm going to give youan example.
In my community there areclasses and they're called
either somatic experienceclasses or just a somatic class.
But from what you're saying,it's kind of like it can be an
individualized experience.
Can it also be in a group, orwill it help if it's in a group,
in a class with everybody?
Speaker 3 (11:42):
My thought on this, and particularly for highly
sensitive people who are awareand feel the energy deeply
around them work one-on-one withsomeone.
When in a group setting,offering information and
education and having theopportunity to talk about it is
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wonderful.
Opportunity to talk about it iswonderful when you're actually
processing the emotions or theexperiences.
You want to be one-on-one.
So, for example, in acraniosacral setting and I have
also experienced this myself itcan show up as the body almost
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convulsing and twitching.
We're actually really releasingstored emotions in our fascia in
the nervous system and you wantto be one-on-one with someone
who's trauma-informed, who cansupport you through that,
through breath, through um,reconnecting to the earth and
resourcing the body.
You don't want to be in a groupsetting for something like that
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and this is why I am against umdoing breath work in group
settings unless there are reallywell-trained people and it's
like a one to three ratio withthe instructors and um group um.
If it's in like more of aclinical counseling setting
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where it's not like workingquite in that same way with the
body, we're talking through it,we still want to be able to
process the emotions becausethey come out in a range of ways
, right and it's reallyimportant to have that one on
one, to be able to go deep, toprocess it, rather than maybe
leaving ourselves completelyopen and then walking away
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re-traumatized or for it to showup later without that.
Um, I'll call it sort of uh,putting things back together
before we leave so it's.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
It makes a lot of sense what yeah because I have
done breathwork classes in groupand I used to go weekly and I
love them and I love theinstructor.
She was on our podcast actuallyearlier and before not earlier
today, anywho and and I wouldlove it, but then I noticed
toward the end that's why Istopped going on a weekly basis.
(14:06):
I'm like let me take a break,because a lot of the times I'm a
very I'm empathetic, likesometimes I feel like, wait a
minute, these are not myemotions.
Like if someone's because I thething is, because I am way
ahead in my journey maybe, forexample, than other people,
right.
And then when someone's likereleasing and they're crying and
I'm feeling like I'm feelingher, his or her emotions and I'm
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like, why am I doing that?
I'm like those are not myemotions.
So I'm constantly in a battle.
That's why I wanted to kind oftake a break and I love what you
said, because sometimes whenthe class was small, it was
perfect, but when the class wasbigger and I was so happy for
the instructor, but when theclass was bigger, it was, it was
I had way more anxiety.
Yeah, because I was like okay,when are you going to come to me
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?
Like, when are you going to getto me?
When are you going to?
You know what I mean.
Like I, I can hear every singleone, every single emotion, so
that was really overwhelming and, um, I took a break from that
for a minute.
Speaker 3 (15:02):
I'm still taking a break, but you know what I mean
yeah, yeah, no, I think that'sreally important to to speak to
and not many people do speak toit.
But, like you said, it'swonderful for instructors, but
integrity is key and it's offtopic, but on topic.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
I've heard this also about things like ayahuasca.
Like people that are reallywell-trained are saying like you
shouldn't be doing, that youcan open yourself up to so much,
and that's what's lacking.
Is that closure?
So then you're walking away andnow yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:32):
Yeah, and we see things like psychosis or even
episodes and just being totallydisconnected and out of body,
and this may sound really woowoo, but when we're completely
out of body, we also absorb moreof other people's energy and
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are not aware of it.
And we wonder then why we havechronic anxiety.
Well, is it ours, or have webeen collecting other people's
stuff along the way?
Speaker 2 (16:06):
Yeah, no, it doesn't sound woo-woo to us, but I'm
curious and maybe you can'tanswer this Is there a way to
know if you're open, like arethere other things besides
ayahuasca or breathwork, thingsthat people could be unknowingly
doing and opening themselves upand not realizing?
Oh my gosh, this is someoneelse's energy, because, you're
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right, we're a society that'snot tapped in.
We have no idea.
If we're Denise and I recognizenow.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
Yet we're all connected.
Yet we're all connected, right.
So that's why it's reallyimportant sometimes.
Sometimes you'll be in theshower and some thoughts are
coming.
I'm like dude, I don't evenknow.
These are my thoughts.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
Is this coming from the dog?
Speaker 3 (16:46):
Yeah right, Some dog wisdom, I mean after listening
to the telepathy dance.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
I have no idea.
Maybe he's like I need sometreats.
I need some treats.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
Yeah, no, I think that's really, really important
and that's something that Iactually teach children.
I call it sort of the fivefingers, where we go through
that process and figure out, youknow, is this mine or is this
someone else's?
I had.
It wasn't until I was about 27that I really sort of figured
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this out, because I would startcoughing or feel like I was
choking if somebody needed tosay something and like from
miles away, miles away, but Iwas able to pinpoint who it was,
or I'd feel like a stabbingknife in my back, and so I
started to take moments and belike this isn't mine.
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So who's this and how can Iclear it?
And I think back to your point,kira most people do go through
their day, and particularly oursensitive and neurodiverse
children, unaware of whatthey're picking up on, because
they're so beautifully open andconnected to so much more than I
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think we even give them creditfor, which is part of their gift
.
But we also need to have thetools to connect to the earth,
connect to our body, andrecognize our window of
tolerance, recognize when we'reat those limits and okay, how
can I come back to nourishmyself?
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So I don't um go beyond thatsort of limit, if you will, and
have to check out, because a lotof people spend their time out
of their body, not even aware ofhow do my feet feel, how do my
hips feel, and this again tiesback into that whole somatic um
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experiencing.
It's like coming back into thebody.
What am I noticingphysiologically, what am I
noticing in terms of sensations?
Um, and then with children, Ilike to and particularly those
who may be not as verbal likeexploring this through color and
through movement, through sound.
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Those are all beautiful toolsto help process those emotions,
to do this in a more proactiveway.
We don't end up holding as muchand getting to that witching
hour or like three o'clock, whenchildren or adults are
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completely overwhelmed and wejust like can't handle anymore.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
Yeah, I have a question before the other
question that just came up whenyou were talking about the
nonverbal kiddos.
So I want, if you don't mind,katie, talk to us a little bit
about the anger, anger emotion.
I feel that anger has a bad rep, even though it is a healthy
emotion and we have spectrum ofemotions right.
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There isn't an emotion that weshouldn't be having or
experiencing.
Yet anger is very viewed, it'svilified.
Yeah, it's vilified.
And then now I've been startingto think because I noticed my
daughter.
I have a teenager, she's 13,and you're like why are you
angry with me?
I'm like one, I'm not, like,even if I raise my voice, it
doesn't mean I'm angry.
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And then two like now I'mnoticing myself like you know
what a healthy emotion.
And at this time, right now, Iam feeling this anger because my
boundaries were crossed andthat is okay.
So I just want you.
But sometimes I go back to like, fuck, you know, anger, angry,
you know, and uh, yeah, so ifyou can talk to us from that
point of view and then I'll askyou about the non-revocables in
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a minute, because they are mypeople- um, yeah, so anger,
anger, anger.
Speaker 3 (20:46):
Obviously, like you just said, all emotions are
healthy and I think by by beingconnected to our body, we're
able to be better aware of whatthe emotion is or what the
sensation is, what the color is.
If you will showing up in ourbody and understanding, okay,
why is this showing up?
Like you said, my boundarieshave been crossed, okay, great,
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how do I one express this for mein a healthy way, so it doesn't
build up to the point ofblowing up, or we're trying to
keep it in and I'll speak tothat in a minute too.
Trying to keep it in and I'llspeak to that in a minute too
until we do blow up in aninappropriate way or situation
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and anxiety is the same, but sooften we don't listen to the
anxiety and we just like shoveit down until we're burnt out or
there's a serious chronichealth concern, right, and so
this is why I really, really donot like the term
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self-regulation.
I understand and I get thatit's like a commonly used term,
but to me, regulation impliescontrol and like trying to keep
ourselves regulated and in a bitof a box.
Yeah, and that isn't.
We don't want to repress thoseemotions.
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That's when anger or any of theemotions can show up
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inappropriate.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
Yeah, love it.
Denise, I know you have anotherquestion.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
Yeah, I did Okay because I do work with kiddos
who are nonverbal and or they'reverbal, but they it's difficult
.
They're verbal because they'rereciting, you know, things that
they're memorizing versusexpressing their wants and needs
, right.
So, and a lot of them,sometimes we write a goal where
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you know we want them to expresstheir emotions per se, right,
but I know, like you know, Ifeel happy, that doesn't mean
that they truly feel happy.
So, as a speech therapist, I doencounter, you know, and so I
feel, what's happening,especially in a public school
setting, like these teachers,the aides are not understanding
these kids' emotions or whateverthey're going through.
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So what do you recommend forthese parents?
Or maybe I can actually liketell them, like, look into this
or look into that, because theseare like, when I'm coaching
right now parents, I always,always tell them because you
know, especially young families,they don't know, they don't
understand the disorder, theydon't, they don't know and I'm
constantly telling them pleaseuse them as amazing and
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beautiful and intelligent, evenif they're not expressing, they
are intelligent.
Even if they're not expressing,they are intelligent, right,
they are smart, and but thensometimes I feel that these
kiddos, they hold the emotionsbecause they cannot express them
, and then me teaching them I amhappy, I am sad, I'm angry.
Sometimes it's more than that,it's deeper than that, Right,
but then I'm not their parents,so I can't take them to these
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places.
Where is something that I can?
I mean, I'm in California.
But the world now we haveaccess to the whole world.
What can I actually tell theseparents like to look into to
help their kiddos get thoseemotions out?
Speaker 3 (24:28):
Yeah.
So I mean, first of all, like alot of this is rooted I take
the perspective coming fromcraniosacral and just a strong
nervous system background a lotof it's rooted in the nervous
system, um, one example is Iworked with a two-year old many
years ago.
She wasn't talking, she wasn'table to eat food.
After one session.
She was talking and swallowingand eating food.
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So this is like the power ofworking with the nervous system
and getting to the root of itand, like you said, um, it's a
different way of experiencingand expressing the world.
It's not wrong, it's justdifferent, different it's
different exactly yeah, and soit's like learning to speak a
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different language with yourchild.
We might speak in English, butreally English is quite limiting
when we learn to speak throughthe body.
So again going back to like isthis showing up as a color?
Can we paint it out?
Um, is this showing up as a, anexpression of the body, a
movement?
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Um, is this showing up as asound?
How else can we uh, express,and like, trying to tie it
together from there.
First, because when we're in aheightened state so this is not
just non-verbal or um,pre-verbal children when we're
in a heightened state so thatsympathetic fight, flight
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activated, we're not in ourhigher brain to be able to be
like oh, um, I'm angry becauseum, x, y and z, and I know
exactly what to do, that thatcomes after we have to get back
into the parasympathetic thatrest, digest, socialize, calm
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space by going out for a walk innature by I don't know whatever
your practice is before we canget to that space.
So it's really important togive ourselves a space to first
connect with our body and thento be able to understand how
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this experience is showing upand then to be able to help our
children understand and processit and problem solve in a
healthy way.
Um, I, that's what my wholeheart centered parenting course
is actually all about, and I dolike a 12-week journey, um, with
a small group of parents.
Um, but yeah, we work throughlike the reflexes and how that,
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the primitive reflexes, and how,when they aren't fully
integrated, how that plays intothe rest of the development uh
stages up until 15 years.
But yeah, that's that's sort ofwhat I do.
It's fun, I love it and I loveeven working with adults to help
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them understand, because formany of us we weren't given
these tools as children.
For many of us, boundaries islike oh, what are my boundaries?
Speaker 2 (27:35):
And for those of us with neurodiverse kiddos, I'm
going to say we've beendysregulated and so when we can
regulate ourselves, it's goingto help them, and I've noticed
that from personal experienceright, absolutely you can't.
Speaker 3 (27:51):
You can't meet them and help calm them when, as a
parent, we're overwhelmed, Evenif we try to pretend to they are
sensing our energy and whatthey end up feeling is I'm
unsafe.
There's a disparity here.
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It's hard parenting.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
It's hard parenting.
Speaker 3 (28:17):
It's not easy.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
Yeah, it is.
Whether on the spectrumneurodivergent, not.
It is because I always sayparenting doesn't come with a
manual right and then it's goingto depend on your experiences
Plus parenting in your 20s it'sdifferent, because I have an
almost, not almost.
He is 19 already and then mydaughter's 13.
So there is a gap between themand then sometimes my son would
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say like well, you're notraising her like you raised me,
like you were more stricter withthis and that, and I was like
one.
We were different parents, wewere different people when we
were raising you, and differentexperiences, different things.
So I feel like, even within thesame family, sometimes you have
, you know, but it's, and thenthey're seeing you, they're
seeing your journey.
You know what I mean.
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Like I went from like not beingaware or conscious to like you
know, doing all of that stuffand like what you know.
But I also see my kidssometimes, you know, make fun of
me.
But then when they get older, Isee them like you know.
Know, gio, right now is likemaking the smoothies and doing
all of the healthy stuff andmeal prepping and I'm like, okay
, where did that come from?
Right, because he did see me dothat.
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Yes, they were making fun of me, so it's really fun.
It's really nice to hear thatyou, your mom, did encourage
your breath work and meditation.
My daughter's a dancer so I tryto do the tapping with her, the
meditation, but of course, ofcourse, everything mom does is
cringy, so I'm hoping one daythat she'll do both on her own,
like you did in your 20s.
Speaker 3 (29:41):
I'm sure she will.
It's leading by example rightPlanting the seeds.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
Yeah Well, anything we didn't touch on that.
You feel intuitively that ouraudience needs to hear.
Speaker 3 (29:57):
Love yourself, love your journey.
We all come into this life withvarious gifts and challenges
which can open up even morebeautiful gifts than we possibly
imagined.
But it does take courage and ittakes a lot of love for
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ourselves to be able to unearthit.
So, yeah, I love that.
Speaker 1 (30:24):
you said that I know.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
Because we're always talking about self-love.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
We're always talking about loving yourself and you
know, sometimes I feel like itis.
Sometimes it can bemisinterpreted.
You know, when we say loveyourself.
And, but yeah, I truly hopethat this podcast is constantly
reminding others to lovethemselves and especially for
who they are truly.
I mean the words alreadycriticizing.
Speaker 2 (30:51):
Just lower that volume on that inside inner
critic yeah, absolutely well,I'm gonna make sure all of your
social media contact informationis in the show notes, but for
people that aren't even looking,what's the best place to come
find you?
Where are you most active?
Speaker 3 (31:20):
most active?
Um, that's a good question.
Right now, maybe go to mywebsite, so, glowwithinca1w.
Um, I am on Instagram at theglow within you, um, and
reviving my YouTube.
Love it, are there any?
Speaker 1 (31:29):
programs or anything on your website that that you
recommend, that someone will,because sometimes, like you know
, a visiting website for thefirst time, you're like where am
I going to go?
Which tab am I going to click?
So what do you recommend?
Speaker 3 (31:43):
as it's starting out, yeah, so for parents of highly
sensitive or neurodiversechildren, I'm going to I'll send
you the link actually to thatbut to the Heart centered
parenting course.
I do a course for pregnantmamas and then one for educators
(32:03):
.
Yeah, so I have a few differentthings that I can send you,
then you can choose what youthink is appropriate.
Speaker 2 (32:10):
Awesome.
Speaker 3 (32:12):
Thank you so much, thank you so much Thanks for
having me.
Speaker 2 (32:15):
Yeah Well, you guys know the drill.
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Welcome to the Heal Yourself Podcast, where we dive
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I'm Denise, a speech andlanguage pathologist and a
self-love coach for adults andteens.
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Hey everyone, welcome back toanother episode of Heal Yourself
Podcast.
You have Kira and Denise today,and we are joined by special
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guest Katie.
Katie is a somatic coach andspeaker, bridging science and
intuition to empower her clientsand honoring their glow within
the light they came here toembody and share.
She's a clinical counselor,craniosacral and somatic
therapist expert, registeredyoga teacher, founded a
registered children's yogaschool and has won awards for
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her contributions for thebetterment of communities.
And I forgot to say your lastname it's Connelly.
So welcome, katie.
Thank you for having me.
So we always like to start byasking how did you get to this
place?
Tell us your journey.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
Yeah right, it really started when I was a child.
So I think my mom recognized mychildhood anxiety and ADHD
traits and so she reallyencouraged me to do breathwork
and meditation.
And then, when I was aboutseven, I didn't want to play
with my little cousins afterdinner so I went flipping
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through my my grants like 1970style yoga book, and I started
playing with some of the poses Ispecifically remember remember,
excuse me, candlestick, whereyour feet are up in the air and
back bends, and I realized itwas creating sensations in my
body, and so this is what is nowreally known as somatic
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experiencing.
And so there was a brief breakof that sort of that
disconnection with my body fromabout 10 to 21.
And then, after or during mynear death experience experience
, I really made a choice to comeback and I realized that I
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needed to reconnect with thiswork, and so that's why I do
what I do, and so Iprofessionally pursued it,
taking it in a variety ofdirections that he read from
like yoga to craniosacral andsomatic work to clinical
counseling.
So, yeah, wow.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
Journey in a nutshell yeah, it sounds like a journey.
Talk to us a little bit aboutsomatic experiencing, because
right now I know we talkedbefore we hit record there's a
lot of buzzwords out there inthe health world, especially in
the holistic health space,nervous system regulation,
somatic movement, somaticexperiencing like what do you
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want to say about these things?
Because I think people don'teven know what they are and what
they mean.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
Yeah, and I think that's sort of what happens when
you have these unregulatedterms, right, like somatic has
become such a buzzword.
It's taking many forms and Ialso practice it in many forms,
depending on my client and theirneeds.
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So, at its core, soma meansbody.
So essentially we're talkingabout body work.
So we could include, um, breathwork in there, we could include
yoga, we could include, um whatelse, I don't know, anything
related to the body, right?
Um, when we go back to like theforefathers of somatic work
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we're looking at at like PeterLevine, bessel, van der Kolk
Well, there's a couple others,and shortly after my near death
experience, I started divinginto this because I was really
interested.
So, at its core, somaticexperiencing is really about
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understanding our physiologicalsensations.
So, like my tummy's grumblingyes, that can mean that you're
hungry, but maybe there's alsolike a bit of a pain in there.
So, like, what else is thisconnected to?
Is there nervousness in there,right?
So what does this meanemotionally?
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What else is it speaking to inour body?
So, when I go back to like thatcandlestick in the backbend that
I was talking about, thebackbend for me being a heart
opener, really released a lot ofanxiety for me, so that became
a tool that I used as a child.
So it's really about connectingthe emotions, the body, the
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intellect, all those layers ofourself, maybe the energetic or
that spiritual element, toholistically care for our body.
And so when we look at it froma yogic perspective because
that's part of my background wesee the koshas, which takes into
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account our physical, ourintellectual, our energetic and
our emotional, the indigenousmedicine wheel to something
similar.
Um, there's so many differenttraditions and cultures that
look at it very holistically andI feel like in the west we're
really starting to come back tothat which is beautiful and so
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needed.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
Katie, I do have a question.
I uh especially like you know,people starting out or whatever.
Why do people come to you like?
Why they're like, oh, we needyour help.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
Lots of different reasons.
Sometimes there's acute pain oran acute injury.
Often it's chronic.
So, for example, my gut hasbeen bothering me for a really
long time.
Okay, great.
So, as you both of you know, isthis a food related issue.
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So what are we eating?
How are we eating it?
What sort of like the foodcombinations?
That's not my territory.
That's where I recommend anaturopath.
But also, what else is going on?
What does our environment looklike?
What does our routine look like?
What is going on in our socialinteractions and support system?
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So it's not just looking at onespecific concern or looking at,
excuse me, from one viewpoint.
Right, it's like what's showingup in the rest of our world.
Why is this showing up?
And taking that really sort ofbroad view to better understand
how we can create a healthiersystem within and around us.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
Yeah, like a total mind-body approach which we love
.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
Totally.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
Yeah, I'm curious too .
So when you're doing somaticexperiencing with someone like
I'm going to expand uponDenise's question let's say I'm
coming to you with those chronicgut issues or with ongoing
anxiety, how do you teach methese Like?
Are you teaching me things todo on my own?
Am I learning to tap into thewisdom of my body?
Speaker 3 (07:57):
Yes, so it's um.
It depends on how I'm workingwith my clients.
So in a craniosacral sessionthat's a one-on-one um and
there's light touch involved.
So I always explain to clientssort of a bit of an overview of
how our nervous system and thecraniosacral system work, um,
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and then we do the one-on-oneand I give them exercises to
walk away with or whatever hasbeen intuited to walk away with,
um.
When I'm working with umchildren and parents, um, again,
I I always give an overviewbecause I think information is
really powerful, um, and then welook at different exercises
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that we can use.
So maybe those are likejournaling or body mapping
exercises, creative exercisesand movement exercises.
So like what has not beenintegrated into the body and how
can we do this to really allowpeople to thrive.
So it takes various, variousforms.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
Yeah, is this something that people can do on
their own?
Speaker 1 (09:11):
You know can I get on .
Speaker 2 (09:12):
YouTube and look up somatic experiencing and just
start doing some things.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
Yes, and no Body awareness, and even having the
bravery to and the courage to gowithin and to look can be
really daunting for a lot ofpeople and we can't do surgery
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on ourselves Right.
So, yes, you can learn aboutsome of these things.
Yes, you can learn about someof these things.
If you have a strong bodyawareness already, probably you
can start to put some of thesepieces together more easily.
But, like I was saying, formany this is really a daunting
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experience to even go with andbe like where is this showing up
?
From what past patterns orchildhood patterns even is it
related to um?
And that's where having someoneto guide you who is holistic
and aligned um to sort of bounceideas off of, can be really
helpful, and ideally someonewho's actually trauma-informed.
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Really really important.
Um, so, yeah, it's a practice.
I mean, we've been taught tooverride our body wisdom and our
intuition for so long.
Our society sort of teaches usto do this.
Um, we even look at likemarketing.
Right, we're taught not tolisten to our bodies, but yet
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that's where the greatest wisdomlies, and that's why I call the
brand Glow Within.
So yes and no.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
I have a question.
Yeah, go go.
We always interrupt each other.
Go, Denise, I know.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
Anywho, I do.
I have a question about this,because it is.
It has become pretty mainstream.
Like you know, people talkabout it.
There are more meditationcenters opening, there are a lot
of classes.
Like there's a lot of awarenessright now, whether it's social
media or you know, a lot ofpeople are knowing about it and
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you know I'm going to give youan example.
In my community there areclasses and they're called
either somatic experienceclasses or just a somatic class.
But from what you're saying,it's kind of like it can be an
individualized experience.
Can it also be in a group, orwill it help if it's in a group,
in a class with everybody?
Speaker 3 (11:42):
My thought on this, and particularly for highly
sensitive people who are awareand feel the energy deeply
around them work one-on-one withsomeone.
When in a group setting,offering information and
education and having theopportunity to talk about it is
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wonderful.
Opportunity to talk about it iswonderful when you're actually
processing the emotions or theexperiences.
You want to be one-on-one.
So, for example, in acraniosacral setting and I have
also experienced this myself itcan show up as the body almost
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convulsing and twitching.
We're actually really releasingstored emotions in our fascia in
the nervous system and you wantto be one-on-one with someone
who's trauma-informed, who cansupport you through that,
through breath, through um,reconnecting to the earth and
resourcing the body.
You don't want to be in a groupsetting for something like that
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and this is why I am against umdoing breath work in group
settings unless there are reallywell-trained people and it's
like a one to three ratio withthe instructors and um group um.
If it's in like more of aclinical counseling setting
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where it's not like workingquite in that same way with the
body, we're talking through it,we still want to be able to
process the emotions becausethey come out in a range of ways
, right and it's reallyimportant to have that one on
one, to be able to go deep, toprocess it, rather than maybe
leaving ourselves completelyopen and then walking away
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re-traumatized or for it to showup later without that.
Um, I'll call it sort of uh,putting things back together
before we leave so it's.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
It makes a lot of sense what yeah because I have
done breathwork classes in groupand I used to go weekly and I
love them and I love theinstructor.
She was on our podcast actuallyearlier and before not earlier
today, anywho and and I wouldlove it, but then I noticed
toward the end that's why Istopped going on a weekly basis.
(14:06):
I'm like let me take a break,because a lot of the times I'm a
very I'm empathetic, likesometimes I feel like, wait a
minute, these are not myemotions.
Like if someone's because I thething is, because I am way
ahead in my journey maybe, forexample, than other people,
right.
And then when someone's likereleasing and they're crying and
I'm feeling like I'm feelingher, his or her emotions and I'm
(14:29):
like, why am I doing that?
I'm like those are not myemotions.
So I'm constantly in a battle.
That's why I wanted to kind oftake a break and I love what you
said, because sometimes whenthe class was small, it was
perfect, but when the class wasbigger and I was so happy for
the instructor, but when theclass was bigger, it was, it was
I had way more anxiety.
Yeah, because I was like okay,when are you going to come to me
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?
Like, when are you going to getto me?
When are you going to?
You know what I mean.
Like I, I can hear every singleone, every single emotion, so
that was really overwhelming and, um, I took a break from that
for a minute.
Speaker 3 (15:02):
I'm still taking a break, but you know what I mean
yeah, yeah, no, I think that'sreally important to to speak to
and not many people do speak toit.
But, like you said, it'swonderful for instructors, but
integrity is key and it's offtopic, but on topic.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
I've heard this also about things like ayahuasca.
Like people that are reallywell-trained are saying like you
shouldn't be doing, that youcan open yourself up to so much,
and that's what's lacking.
Is that closure?
So then you're walking away andnow yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:32):
Yeah, and we see things like psychosis or even
episodes and just being totallydisconnected and out of body,
and this may sound really woowoo, but when we're completely
out of body, we also absorb moreof other people's energy and
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are not aware of it.
And we wonder then why we havechronic anxiety.
Well, is it ours, or have webeen collecting other people's
stuff along the way?
Speaker 2 (16:06):
Yeah, no, it doesn't sound woo-woo to us, but I'm
curious and maybe you can'tanswer this Is there a way to
know if you're open, like arethere other things besides
ayahuasca or breathwork, thingsthat people could be unknowingly
doing and opening themselves upand not realizing?
Oh my gosh, this is someoneelse's energy, because, you're
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right, we're a society that'snot tapped in.
We have no idea.
If we're Denise and I recognizenow.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
Yet we're all connected.
Yet we're all connected, right.
So that's why it's reallyimportant sometimes.
Sometimes you'll be in theshower and some thoughts are
coming.
I'm like dude, I don't evenknow.
These are my thoughts.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
Is this coming from the dog?
Speaker 3 (16:46):
Yeah right, Some dog wisdom, I mean after listening
to the telepathy dance.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
I have no idea.
Maybe he's like I need sometreats.
I need some treats.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
Yeah, no, I think that's really, really important
and that's something that Iactually teach children.
I call it sort of the fivefingers, where we go through
that process and figure out, youknow, is this mine or is this
someone else's?
I had.
It wasn't until I was about 27that I really sort of figured
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this out, because I would startcoughing or feel like I was
choking if somebody needed tosay something and like from
miles away, miles away, but Iwas able to pinpoint who it was,
or I'd feel like a stabbingknife in my back, and so I
started to take moments and belike this isn't mine.
(17:40):
So who's this and how can Iclear it?
And I think back to your point,kira most people do go through
their day, and particularly oursensitive and neurodiverse
children, unaware of whatthey're picking up on, because
they're so beautifully open andconnected to so much more than I
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think we even give them creditfor, which is part of their gift
.
But we also need to have thetools to connect to the earth,
connect to our body, andrecognize our window of
tolerance, recognize when we'reat those limits and okay, how
can I come back to nourishmyself?
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So I don't um go beyond thatsort of limit, if you will, and
have to check out, because a lotof people spend their time out
of their body, not even aware ofhow do my feet feel, how do my
hips feel, and this again tiesback into that whole somatic um
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experiencing.
It's like coming back into thebody.
What am I noticingphysiologically, what am I
noticing in terms of sensations?
Um, and then with children, Ilike to and particularly those
who may be not as verbal likeexploring this through color and
through movement, through sound.
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Those are all beautiful toolsto help process those emotions,
to do this in a more proactiveway.
We don't end up holding as muchand getting to that witching
hour or like three o'clock, whenchildren or adults are
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completely overwhelmed and wejust like can't handle anymore.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
Yeah, I have a question before the other
question that just came up whenyou were talking about the
nonverbal kiddos.
So I want, if you don't mind,katie, talk to us a little bit
about the anger, anger emotion.
I feel that anger has a bad rep, even though it is a healthy
emotion and we have spectrum ofemotions right.
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There isn't an emotion that weshouldn't be having or
experiencing.
Yet anger is very viewed, it'svilified.
Yeah, it's vilified.
And then now I've been startingto think because I noticed my
daughter.
I have a teenager, she's 13,and you're like why are you
angry with me?
I'm like one, I'm not, like,even if I raise my voice, it
doesn't mean I'm angry.
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And then two like now I'mnoticing myself like you know
what a healthy emotion.
And at this time, right now, Iam feeling this anger because my
boundaries were crossed andthat is okay.
So I just want you.
But sometimes I go back to like, fuck, you know, anger, angry,
you know, and uh, yeah, so ifyou can talk to us from that
point of view and then I'll askyou about the non-revocables in
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a minute, because they are mypeople- um, yeah, so anger,
anger, anger.
Speaker 3 (20:46):
Obviously, like you just said, all emotions are
healthy and I think by by beingconnected to our body, we're
able to be better aware of whatthe emotion is or what the
sensation is, what the color is.
If you will showing up in ourbody and understanding, okay,
why is this showing up?
Like you said, my boundarieshave been crossed, okay, great,
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how do I one express this for mein a healthy way, so it doesn't
build up to the point ofblowing up, or we're trying to
keep it in and I'll speak tothat in a minute too.
Trying to keep it in and I'llspeak to that in a minute too
until we do blow up in aninappropriate way or situation
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and anxiety is the same, but sooften we don't listen to the
anxiety and we just like shoveit down until we're burnt out or
there's a serious chronichealth concern, right, and so
this is why I really, really donot like the term
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self-regulation.
I understand and I get thatit's like a commonly used term,
but to me, regulation impliescontrol and like trying to keep
ourselves regulated and in a bitof a box.
Yeah, and that isn't.
We don't want to repress thoseemotions.
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That's when anger or any of theemotions can show up
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inappropriate.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
Yeah, love it.
Denise, I know you have anotherquestion.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
Yeah, I did Okay because I do work with kiddos
who are nonverbal and or they'reverbal, but they it's difficult
.
They're verbal because they'rereciting, you know, things that
they're memorizing versusexpressing their wants and needs
, right.
So, and a lot of them,sometimes we write a goal where
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you know we want them to expresstheir emotions per se, right,
but I know, like you know, Ifeel happy, that doesn't mean
that they truly feel happy.
So, as a speech therapist, I doencounter, you know, and so I
feel, what's happening,especially in a public school
setting, like these teachers,the aides are not understanding
these kids' emotions or whateverthey're going through.
(23:29):
So what do you recommend forthese parents?
Or maybe I can actually liketell them, like, look into this
or look into that, because theseare like, when I'm coaching
right now parents, I always,always tell them because you
know, especially young families,they don't know, they don't
understand the disorder, theydon't, they don't know and I'm
constantly telling them pleaseuse them as amazing and
(23:52):
beautiful and intelligent, evenif they're not expressing, they
are intelligent.
Even if they're not expressing,they are intelligent, right,
they are smart, and but thensometimes I feel that these
kiddos, they hold the emotionsbecause they cannot express them
, and then me teaching them I amhappy, I am sad, I'm angry.
Sometimes it's more than that,it's deeper than that, Right,
but then I'm not their parents,so I can't take them to these
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places.
Where is something that I can?
I mean, I'm in California.
But the world now we haveaccess to the whole world.
What can I actually tell theseparents like to look into to
help their kiddos get thoseemotions out?
Speaker 3 (24:28):
Yeah.
So I mean, first of all, like alot of this is rooted I take
the perspective coming fromcraniosacral and just a strong
nervous system background a lotof it's rooted in the nervous
system, um, one example is Iworked with a two-year old many
years ago.
She wasn't talking, she wasn'table to eat food.
After one session.
She was talking and swallowingand eating food.
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So this is like the power ofworking with the nervous system
and getting to the root of itand, like you said, um, it's a
different way of experiencingand expressing the world.
It's not wrong, it's justdifferent, different it's
different exactly yeah, and soit's like learning to speak a
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different language with yourchild.
We might speak in English, butreally English is quite limiting
when we learn to speak throughthe body.
So again going back to like isthis showing up as a color?
Can we paint it out?
Um, is this showing up as a, anexpression of the body, a
movement?
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Um, is this showing up as asound?
How else can we uh, express,and like, trying to tie it
together from there.
First, because when we're in aheightened state so this is not
just non-verbal or um,pre-verbal children when we're
in a heightened state so thatsympathetic fight, flight
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activated, we're not in ourhigher brain to be able to be
like oh, um, I'm angry becauseum, x, y and z, and I know
exactly what to do, that thatcomes after we have to get back
into the parasympathetic thatrest, digest, socialize, calm
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space by going out for a walk innature by I don't know whatever
your practice is before we canget to that space.
So it's really important togive ourselves a space to first
connect with our body and thento be able to understand how
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this experience is showing upand then to be able to help our
children understand and processit and problem solve in a
healthy way.
Um, I, that's what my wholeheart centered parenting course
is actually all about, and I dolike a 12-week journey, um, with
a small group of parents.
Um, but yeah, we work throughlike the reflexes and how that,
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the primitive reflexes, and how,when they aren't fully
integrated, how that plays intothe rest of the development uh
stages up until 15 years.
But yeah, that's that's sort ofwhat I do.
It's fun, I love it and I loveeven working with adults to help
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them understand, because formany of us we weren't given
these tools as children.
For many of us, boundaries islike oh, what are my boundaries?
Speaker 2 (27:35):
And for those of us with neurodiverse kiddos, I'm
going to say we've beendysregulated and so when we can
regulate ourselves, it's goingto help them, and I've noticed
that from personal experienceright, absolutely you can't.
Speaker 3 (27:51):
You can't meet them and help calm them when, as a
parent, we're overwhelmed, Evenif we try to pretend to they are
sensing our energy and whatthey end up feeling is I'm
unsafe.
There's a disparity here.
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It's hard parenting.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
It's hard parenting.
Speaker 3 (28:17):
It's not easy.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
Yeah, it is.
Whether on the spectrumneurodivergent, not.
It is because I always sayparenting doesn't come with a
manual right and then it's goingto depend on your experiences
Plus parenting in your 20s it'sdifferent, because I have an
almost, not almost.
He is 19 already and then mydaughter's 13.
So there is a gap between themand then sometimes my son would
(28:40):
say like well, you're notraising her like you raised me,
like you were more stricter withthis and that, and I was like
one.
We were different parents, wewere different people when we
were raising you, and differentexperiences, different things.
So I feel like, even within thesame family, sometimes you have
, you know, but it's, and thenthey're seeing you, they're
seeing your journey.
You know what I mean.
(29:00):
Like I went from like not beingaware or conscious to like you
know, doing all of that stuffand like what you know.
But I also see my kidssometimes, you know, make fun of
me.
But then when they get older, Isee them like you know.
Know, gio, right now is likemaking the smoothies and doing
all of the healthy stuff andmeal prepping and I'm like, okay
, where did that come from?
Right, because he did see me dothat.
(29:21):
Yes, they were making fun of me, so it's really fun.
It's really nice to hear thatyou, your mom, did encourage
your breath work and meditation.
My daughter's a dancer so I tryto do the tapping with her, the
meditation, but of course, ofcourse, everything mom does is
cringy, so I'm hoping one daythat she'll do both on her own,
like you did in your 20s.
Speaker 3 (29:41):
I'm sure she will.
It's leading by example rightPlanting the seeds.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
Yeah Well, anything we didn't touch on that.
You feel intuitively that ouraudience needs to hear.
Speaker 3 (29:57):
Love yourself, love your journey.
We all come into this life withvarious gifts and challenges
which can open up even morebeautiful gifts than we possibly
imagined.
But it does take courage and ittakes a lot of love for
(30:19):
ourselves to be able to unearthit.
So, yeah, I love that.
Speaker 1 (30:24):
you said that I know.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
Because we're always talking about self-love.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
We're always talking about loving yourself and you
know, sometimes I feel like itis.
Sometimes it can bemisinterpreted.
You know, when we say loveyourself.
And, but yeah, I truly hopethat this podcast is constantly
reminding others to lovethemselves and especially for
who they are truly.
I mean the words alreadycriticizing.
Speaker 2 (30:51):
Just lower that volume on that inside inner
critic yeah, absolutely well,I'm gonna make sure all of your
social media contact informationis in the show notes, but for
people that aren't even looking,what's the best place to come
find you?
Where are you most active?
Speaker 3 (31:20):
most active?
Um, that's a good question.
Right now, maybe go to mywebsite, so, glowwithinca1w.
Um, I am on Instagram at theglow within you, um, and
reviving my YouTube.
Love it, are there any?
Speaker 1 (31:29):
programs or anything on your website that that you
recommend, that someone will,because sometimes, like you know
, a visiting website for thefirst time, you're like where am
I going to go?
Which tab am I going to click?
So what do you recommend?
Speaker 3 (31:43):
as it's starting out, yeah, so for parents of highly
sensitive or neurodiversechildren, I'm going to I'll send
you the link actually to thatbut to the Heart centered
parenting course.
I do a course for pregnantmamas and then one for educators
(32:03):
.
Yeah, so I have a few differentthings that I can send you,
then you can choose what youthink is appropriate.
Speaker 2 (32:10):
Awesome.
Speaker 3 (32:12):
Thank you so much, thank you so much Thanks for
having me.
Speaker 2 (32:15):
Yeah Well, you guys know the drill.
Find us on Instagram at HillYourself Podcast.
Leave us a review, message us,let us know what you want to
hear about and we'll see you onthe next episode.
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