Rolling Through Life: Will Dowdy on the Joy and Transformation of Roller Skating

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What if the joy of roller skating could transform your life? Join us in an engaging conversation with our special guest, Will Dowdy, as we explore his lifelong passion for skating. From his charming tale of clunky metal-wheeled skates in his youth to his triumphant return to the rink in 2021, Will shares how skating has renewed his spirit and lifestyle. Alongside personal anecdotes, we delve into the unique challenges faced by tall skaters and even reminisce about skateboarding as a fun mode of transport during our younger days. With a touch of humor, we reflect on the camaraderie and personal growth that have shaped our roller skating journey.

Skating isn't just about the moves; it's about personal evolution and family bonding. Discover how customizing gear, like turning Nike Air Force Ones into skates, can enhance your skating experience. We emphasize the mental focus and clarity that skating brings, turning crowded rinks into a playground for skill and expression. Sharing my own experiences of teaching my daughter, we celebrate the family connection and sheer joy of guiding a new generation of skaters. With insights into the dynamics of adapting to new setups, we highlight how skating can offer a freeing experience that transcends mere sport.

As we ride through the vibrant roller skating scene, you'll uncover the essence of a welcoming, judgment-free community. From the artistic vibe at Arvada to the electric jam skating in Aurora, each location offers a unique flavor that enriches the skating culture. We delve into the evolution of roller skating equipment and share tips on customizing and maintaining your gear for maximum enjoyment. Wrapping up with an invitation to our Flow Motion sessions at Skate City Westminster, this episode invites seasoned skaters and curious newcomers alike to join us in experiencing the freedom and camaraderie of the roller skating world.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:09):
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(00:30):
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into the world of skating.

Speaker 2 (00:40):
Welcome to this week's episode of how do you
skateate.
I'm your host, sean Egan.
My guest today is my goodfriend Will Dowdy.
How are you doing today?
Oh, pretty good, and you, I'mdoing all right.
It was a long night we had lastnight.

Speaker 3 (00:57):
Yes, the answer to the question that is, the name
of this podcast is Passionately.

Speaker 2 (01:02):
Exactly.
So when did your whole skatingstart?

Speaker 3 (01:07):
I know we've talked a lot, but I don't think I
actually know the the originstory of your uh skating career
so like when I was a little boymy dad was cleaning out like a
like a flood restoration in abasement and they gave me these,
uh, those metal wheels that youslipped on the outside of the
skates.
I was like four or five yearsold, so I enjoyed the heck out

(01:29):
of those, but my mom, I think,probably threw them away.
She didn't like me getting hurt, you know.
Uh.
So then I went again when I wasseven, but then in my teens I I
skated 48 hours a week everyweek for like three and a half
years or something like that,and uh, I, I, uh, I really fell
in love with skating.
Back then I started, like inthe speed side, but there was

(01:53):
this really funky, weird skaterand he taught me how to do a lot
of like fluid motion.

Speaker 2 (01:58):
That I think is shown up today very cool and I know
we discussed, talked about alittle bit last night, but you
had like little breaks and stuff.
So, yeah, you've been skatingfor god.
I know you're a little bityounger than me, but you've been
skating for almost as long as Ihave, or if not longer yeah,

(02:20):
I've been skating for on and offlike for 40 years, so that, uh,
I'm.

Speaker 3 (02:24):
So.
It's 43 years ago.
I got on skates the first time,a couple of times in between,
and then my teams, I reallypicked it up for probably, like
I say, three and a half to maybeeven as much as five years.
As much as they were open, Iwould go cool now it's.

Speaker 2 (02:48):
Uh, I know you've had breaks in between, but was
there ever a period when you hadthat break that it just like
completely like left you and youdidn't think about it until you
did it again, or yeah,absolutely so.

Speaker 3 (02:57):
I uh, you know, uh, I can't recall when I would go
with my son.
He's 21 and we used to go for asmall period of time, but I was
a lot heavier and every fallfelt a lot worse.
So I didn't skate again for along time and I had forgotten
all about how a skating rink inAurora.
So when I went and I rememberedhow much I loved it, I picked

(03:21):
it back up.
That was like in 2021.

Speaker 2 (03:30):
Okay, so kind of like right in the middle of the
pandemic or like right after.

Speaker 3 (03:35):
Just after, there was still plenty of mass
restrictions in places, indifferent places, and what have
you.
But it was just after.
Uh, they, they releasedeverything, and you know what I
mean when I say the.
Uh, the biden administrationcame in yeah.

Speaker 2 (03:53):
So now were you skating like outdoors when you
got back into it, or was it juststrictly at the rink?

Speaker 3 (03:59):
I've always skated basically strictly at the rink,
except for the skateboarding toand from friends' houses and
stuff like that.
I used to use skateboards astransportation and everything.

Speaker 2 (04:13):
So you're a multifaceted skater.

Speaker 3 (04:16):
Yeah, and to that point, like you know, as you
know, we're friends.
I've listened to every one ofyour podcasts and everything.
Go for a longboard.
When you decide to go, uh,skate skateboard style, go ahead
and try longboarding, becauseyou know you're tall enough.
That longboard is going to bethe thing you want to do.
Like a small longboard, yeah,uh, the opportunity to work like

(04:36):
a skateboard.
But you'll be, you'll have the,the legs and the space for your
legs and everything.
So what you're saying is I'mfat, no, you're tall, you're
really tall.
I always marvel at how tallsome of the people skate are you
and Vernon, better known asDenver you guys are so tall I'm

(04:56):
like, oh my gosh.

Speaker 2 (05:00):
Well, I don't know if we were blessed with height, or
I don't know if you would callit a blessing.
It could be a pain sometimes.

Speaker 3 (05:09):
That's why I say oh my God, because I can only
imagine what it is to fall fromway up there.

Speaker 2 (05:14):
Yeah, not only that, though it's, we got bigger feet.
So, like a lot of companies,don't make the skates in the
size Like I can go, and I can gok2s and I can do um, the
specialty bont boots for speedskating, but, like a lot of
regular roller skates, I can'tfind a size 13, and I think

(05:35):
denver may be may be 13 or 14.
Yeah, so I believe it.
But I believe it now becausewhen I first met you, the first
thing you said you're like, yeah, I'm just a grumpy old man.
And then you started skatingagain and then you said you were
a grumpy old man who skatesyeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (05:57):
And then you teased me recently that every time you
see me I've got the smile on myface.

Speaker 2 (06:01):
So I know you screwed that one up.

Speaker 3 (06:04):
Yeah, no, kidding.
Yeah, no, it's, it's.
It's really amazing Because mywife like, yeah, you need to go
skating a lot of times and sheenjoys me skating because I'm so
much more like well balancedand and everything.
Yeah, you know it's easy to getgrumpy when you make choices to
be an average person, butyou're not really average you

(06:25):
know Exactly.

Speaker 2 (06:26):
So now, what was?
Was it just life and everythingthat was causing your
grumpiness, as we call it?

Speaker 3 (06:33):
Yeah, no, it's all the media, you know.
I mean, when we grew up, youknow we had friends and
acquaintances much like youexperienced within the community
of the skating rink that youknow you.
You might not ever have anyconversation, but you would
never have any ill will either.
But, you know, everything inthe media had me believing that

(06:53):
everyone hated everyone and thatevery you know, and that you
know, I'm, I'm, I'm uh, of theuh hated gender with the wrong
color skin and all that otherstuff.
But none of that seems tomatter at all in real life, and
I work overnight, so myexclusive, like, contact with

(07:13):
the world was through media, youknow, and they definitely want
you to feel like we're so muchmore divided than I think we
might be in real life.
I don't, I don't know, though,because I work overnight.

Speaker 2 (07:24):
And that's the nice thing about the skate community
it doesn't matter what gender,what um, your ethnicity is.
It's kind of like we're allfamily.
It's, yeah, we all kind ofstick together, we all talk to
each other.
And it's like one of thoseplaces um, like I was having a
conversation with someone lastnight that when they come, even

(07:46):
as a group of females, they feelsafe because nobody's trying to
pick up on them Right?
It's not like a bar where youknow, hey, can I buy you a drink
or anything.
It's just, you know, we talk,we interact with each other.
But there's that safeness at aroller rink too, cause we know,
no matter what happens, we allgot each other's back.

Speaker 3 (08:07):
Yeah, and I think a lot of the facades have to fall
off because we're all justtrying to avoid hitting the
floor the wrong way.

Speaker 2 (08:14):
Exactly Everybody Me and Dylan like locked skates.
We almost went down andactually ended up taking another
girl down last night, which Ifeel bad about.
But I went back, made sure shewas okay.
But it's not like we hit herhard, we just knocked her off
balance.
Yeah, you mean Jackson?
No, dylan, he was the other one.

(08:36):
He's got the lightest skatesand he really skates fast and
very, very artistic skating.
I'm surprised he didn't stayfor flow motion, but he's a
really good skater.
He had the baseball hat on,skinny guy like Jackson.
So okay, okay.
So now, another story that youbrought up that I want people to

(09:00):
hear about is your skates thatyou had for 30 years.
How old were you when you gotthat pair of skates and what
happened to those skates?

Speaker 3 (09:12):
Yeah.
So I was like probably right inthe area of like 15, 16 years
old when I got those skates.
They were older than my oldestkid and I have six grandkids, so
they're older than all of mygenerations and they were in my
car.
I basically keep my skates withme at all times because I just
never know if I want to breakthem out.

(09:33):
I work in a place where I havethe opportunity to sneak a skate
here and there if I want to,and so I keep them on me at all
times.
But I had them in my car and mycar got stolen.
So, uh, yeah, I got a littletouch of ptsd and what have you.
But uh, I was lucky enough togo on ebay and find the same

(09:56):
plates and so I got twodifferent sizes and, uh, I took
the size I might have thought toreturn and I attached them to a
pair of Nike Air Force Ones, orsomething they're called, that
I had found in my shed that oneof my son's friends had left
behind when he moved out.
So you happened to mention thata couple of days back, a couple

(10:19):
of shows back, and I was like,hey look, he just talked about
me.

Speaker 2 (10:24):
Well, you're probably gonna need to make a pair for
uh tony on a honor roll skatecrew right.

Speaker 3 (10:30):
And then shortly afterward I saw somebody else
had put together the same exactthing and, uh, size eight ladies
.
I was like wow, same exactcolors and everything.

Speaker 2 (10:41):
I was like that's really amazing, you know yeah,
now did it take you a littlewhile to get used to being,
because, as skaters, we have ourskates and we're comfortable in
our skates and then when we getnew stuff it takes a little
while to get used to.
Did it take a little while toget used to the new setup?

Speaker 3 (10:59):
so the the real important, like transition,
where that you're asking about,I gotta always say it, always
say the rentals.
Those were killer.
I felt like I was atwo-year-old.
I couldn't do anything withouttaking everything and adjusting
everything on it, becausethey're so tight you can barely
use them and what have you.
So that was the one that wasreally tough to try to adjust to

(11:23):
, and I found a pair on aFacebook marketplace for $15,
but because they were mine and Icould adjust them, take the toe
stops out and make them likemine specifically, they did the.
They served the purpose.
But, uh, each, each one is, likeyou know, different and I I uh
loved my skates so much that youknow I felt like a snob about

(11:44):
them and what have you.
But when it's all said and done, I think I've seen some of
these skaters that, since youstarted your podcast, I've
started to listen to and watchon the YouTube channels and all
those different locations.
You know it's not really aboutthe skates, it's about the
person, because whatever you do,you are going to do them.
But those rentals, oh god, theywere killer.

Speaker 2 (12:08):
I stumbled like a two-year-old learning how to
walk yeah, I gotta get a pair ofquads, because this thursday
I'm actually playing rink hockeywith the westminster team, so
and my son's coming back to playthat was the only reason I'm
going back is because he'scoming.
It's kind of a fun activity todo together because you and your
daughter go skating quite a bittoo.

(12:29):
She's, she's into it and I can.
I can see a lot of the similarstyles in her skating technique
as yours.
I mean, she's not as advancedas you yet, but I can see her
surpassing you in the future ohyeah, if she continues to go, uh
, I think that that's definitelya possibility.

Speaker 3 (12:49):
I know that, uh, I got her to go like only a course
of maybe like five or six timessince school let out in 24, uh,
and but now I I might be havingher boyfriend come.
She's actually the only personthat I ever feel like I I taught
how to skate every.
Otherwise I had this thing.
My wife and I discuss.
I skate with you.
You know, like you've mentionedon the podcast before, skating

(13:12):
is like 99, maybe even more than90, mental, and so what I do is
I just skate around with youand if I can skate with you and
have a conversation, you get outof your brain and then you
start to like be able to able tolike turn it into muscle memory
and figure out how you're doingit without concentrating on it.
Then it just like sort of comesnaturally.

Speaker 2 (13:35):
Exactly Now.
I know for me.
Sometimes, when I have a badday skating, I mean I'll be
quiet, but skating does a lotjust mentally, allows you to
think things out.
Does the same thing work foryou when you're at the rink?

Speaker 3 (13:49):
Yeah, kind of.
I mean, I think it's maybe alittle bit more in the opposite
direction, though it lets meclear my brain.

Speaker 1 (13:55):
Yeah, because.

Speaker 3 (13:56):
I've always got a whole bunch of thoughts on my
brain.
I'm always looking around seeingwhat's going on in my
environment and what have youaround seeing what's going on in
my environment and what haveyou?
So when I go roller skating, asyou know I I put the earphones
in and I just kind of losemyself and get lost in it, and I
love the nights when it'spacked, as much as I hate them
too, because when the peoplefall in front of you and you're

(14:18):
moving fast, it gives you theopportunity to test your dodge
game.
You know, or learn, how to jump, yeah, yeah, yeah, I haven't
done much in the way of jumping,but I have been trying to like
get to that because, uh, youknow, that's definitely a uh,
something that's always marveledme when I see anybody doing any

(14:38):
kind of jumps just on the flatstuff or even, like you know,
the rollerbladers, the the firstone you did, that guy uh and
the and the parks and all thatkind of stuff I don't know how
you yeah, I don't know how youcome off your wheels, because
it's already like difficultenough to be on wheels, you know
.

Speaker 2 (14:59):
Then you like jump up and land too you know, yeah,
and we've been skating for solong that it's just a natural
part of us is is we don't haveto think when we're skating,
because it's just so natural tous.
So so to be able to jump,someone goes down in front of
you, you jump.
Especially sometimes you don'thave that opportunity.

(15:19):
Uh, when I was first startedskating again out here, my
friend Q went with me and I toldhim I'm like if you fall in
front of me, just lay flat,don't sit up.
And he's like, well, if I situp, I sit up and I'm like I'm
jumping over you.
If you sit up you might getkicked in the head.
So right, but yeah, I mean,it's just a, it's been just a

(15:41):
fun year for I think, both of usin developing our friendship
over this last year, withskating and everything, it's
been like I've seen you, like Isaid, like you were kind of
grumpy when I first met you,like you could see it in your
face, but now it's like you'resmiling all the time, you're
laughing.
I think a lot of it has to dowith just that.

Speaker 3 (16:02):
It's when you get to the roller rink it's like you,
you can go by yourself and youknow you're going to run into a
bunch of friends yes, it isexactly that, like, so, like, I
say, I work overnight, so, uh,part of that that, uh,
continence was, is, is, uh, somesomething similar to isolation.
You know, yeah, my parents, I,I, have elderly, handicapped

(16:23):
parents.
Their love language is toscream and holler.
You know, we, you, beingGeneration X, you know we grew
up with like Archie Bunker andall that kind of stuff and as a
result of those guys, I was,like you know, always kind of
like, yeah, I just I'm an out inthe shadows and do my best not
to be observed.

(16:44):
I, I, what I like to think, but,uh, you know, when it,
unfortunately, that same thingis like reversed on the wheels,
when I'm skating, I, I, I stillfeel like I'm alone.
But then, you know, it feels sohumbling when people come up
and give the compliments and I'mlike I, you know, I also joke
around.
I've told you before the theyoung lady asked me if I have a

(17:06):
name for what I do and, with thetongue-in-cheek kind of
disappointment, I thought I wasdancing.

Speaker 2 (17:12):
Yeah, I didn't know I had different names at all,
because I remember when I firststarted going to the roller rink
, a lot of the style that'sconsidered artistic or jam
skating and all that we calledit rexing.
Okay, so, I mean, back in theday it was just known as rexing.
That's when you get all fancywith your feet on skates and

(17:34):
everything.
And then I got out here and Ithink out of all the shows I've
done, terrell Ferguson is theonly one that actually used the
term rexing.
Yeah, so, and it was kind ofcool to hear that.
But then again, each area mighthave something different,
because I grew up skating inCalifornia and, from the sounds

(17:55):
of it, you pretty much grew upskating with Skate City most of
your life, because it's beenaround for quite a while, hasn't
it?

Speaker 3 (18:01):
Yeah, absolutely so, that's exactly right.
Quite a while, hasn't it?
Yeah, absolutely so, that'sexactly right.
This uh skate city that I usedto go to is now a sally beauty
salon on a 6, 9 to 25 and it wasso rough that they go.
They closed it down because ofthe gang activity and I've
always marveled because likethat never happened while I was
there.
I've just always been soblessed in my life that things
like that will take place, butI'm never there when they happen

(18:22):
, you know.
Yeah, well, I mean that lifethat things like that will take
place, but I'm never there whenthey happen, you know yeah, well
, I mean, that's that's likesometimes some of the concern
with the aurora, uh, skate city.

Speaker 2 (18:34):
It's that you can't bring in bags and if you bring
in a purse it has to be a clearpurse.
I know, just because of thearea that it's in.
It has nothing to do with theactual skating rink itself, but
the area and I know when itcomes to skating we just like to
have fun and have a very safeenvironment that we can do our

(18:54):
thing in and not be judged.
I mean, I think, I think weactually, as far as the roller
rink goes and the skatecommunity, have better
judgment-free zone than PlanetFitness does.

Speaker 3 (19:10):
Oh, I believe.
So I mean, I don't know.
Okay, I just caught that.
Yeah, I mean, I agree.
I think that, like you know,there's something about knowing
that that ground can meet youlike that at any point in time.
That makes you just like humbleyourself like that at any point
in time.
That makes you just like humbleyourself and then, like, once
you've exerted yourself, youdon't have the again.

(19:32):
The facades haven't built backup, even as ingrained as they
might be on any occasion.
So, and then the other aspectis, like you know, nobody has to
interact with another person.
So you know, if you seesomething that you don't like or
whatever, it's nothing morethan a nod or a glance at, and
then away from you know.
If you see something that youdon't like or whatever, it's
nothing more than a nod or aglance at, and then away from.
You know.
So there's also those differentaspects.

(19:54):
So I mean, it's definitely beennice to do it and see everybody
trying to enjoy it themselves.
I love seeing anybody trying tolike roller skate and enjoy it.
It's a it's always aheartbreaking thing when you see
them crying and wanting to giveup.
You know, yeah, I just thinkit's the best thing that you can

(20:16):
do, you know.

Speaker 2 (20:18):
And the thing I like about our community since we're
in the same skate community, asmy listeners could probably
already tell is that we reachout If we see people, if you see
someone struggling and you goup to them like, hey, you're
doing good, just keep it up,don't give up.
All of a sudden, you can justsee the confidence in them
change just because they justgot that little compliment from

(20:40):
one of us, or we teach them howto do.
Because there was were you withus that night where there was a
bunch of girls in and a few ofus were teaching them how to
skate and I don't remember ifyou were one of them, but it was
just like all of a sudden then.
It's just like they were onfire to start skating.
And then, julie and Felicialast night, they keep coming

(21:04):
because we keep talking to themand interacting with them and
it's you come back to a placewhere you feel safe and
comfortable and I think we'vedone a really good job of doing
that for people that aren'tregular skaters.

Speaker 3 (21:18):
You definitely have.
I know that I have repeatedlywondered to myself if I'm coming
across as egotistical.
I kind of call him little sean.
He's the mechanic that wehaven't seen for a while yeah,
because I think he broke hisankle yeah, at the, at the I
guess role.
I've never gone there and Idon't know that I ever will,

(21:38):
because I'm like, yeah, alcoholand roller skate maybe not a
great combination, but uh, yeah,so when, uh, I mean I agree
that combination, but uh, yeahso when uh, uh, he was teaching
there, so I think uh trying toteach some girls, so that might
be what you're talking about.
But yeah, I almost don'tinteract with people unless they

(21:59):
kind of force me to.
I put my earphones in and I loselike track of everybody and
everything and I move like likeI'm all alone around everything
or everyone, as though they'rejust stuck in the way you know
um I, I don't.
I don't believe that I'mshowboating, but I know that
subconsciously there's probablysome arrogant showboating going

(22:19):
on in there, because a lot ofthe music that I listen to has
those uh tones when I'm doing it, because it's just, it's so fun
to be able to like decide thatit's okay to be graceful.
You know, uh, being, uh, beinggraceful is something that some
of us are like oh no, that's notmacho, that's not masculine.
But then you start to likethink of the martial arts or, uh

(22:42):
, any of that kind of stuff, andyou're like, well, no, there's
some, there's some real grace inthe way that we move, you know
yeah, just in dancing too, and Idon't see anything egotistical
or showboating or anything.

Speaker 2 (22:55):
You get in, you get in your groove, you do your
style.
It's the same thing if you goto uh arvada on thursday nights,
because that's much more of a,much more of a um, it's kind of
like quasi jam skating.
You get a lot more of theartistic.
It's kind of likequasi-jamscating.
You get a lot more of theartistic and jamscaters there on
Thursday night.
And then you know in Aurora onFriday and Sunday nights that

(23:17):
it's mainly jamscating andartistic, and so each rink's
kind of got its own little styleof what they have.
So, which makes it really cooltoo.
And you can't say you're alwaysin your headphones, because I
know brooke plays songs that youget into and that you take your
headphones off.
I've seen it.

Speaker 3 (23:35):
You can't lie to me yeah, that's definitely true,
but I also noticed that she likecompetes for it.

Speaker 2 (23:40):
She's like always trying to find the way to make
them, make me keep them offwhich is cool because it's just
that whole interaction that it'sjust I love and it's like about
the skating community.
It's like you know you don'thave the inlines pissed off with
the quad skaters or the quadspissed off with the inlines.
You every once in a while, ifyou go to one of the earlier

(24:01):
sessions, you get one of theparents that kind of think that
you're out to kill their kid andI'm like and I skate slow
during the kid sessions just forthat fact, because you don't
know which direction they'regoing.

Speaker 3 (24:13):
Right, yeah, so that's the only reason that I'll
ever go is if I have mydaughter.
Otherwise, I only go to theadult nights because you know
the everything you just said.
And then there's so much more.
Like you, uh, I'm an old man,so I'm looking around, going
like man.
We would have been in so muchtrouble for the way that the
things are going down out there,like you know whether it be

(24:36):
jumping out in front in the rinklike uh.
So right before you uh called,right before we started this, I
was going back to the jacobkirby one and he was talking
about how he messed his knee up.
Real bad, because they'll justright into the rink without
looking at all.

Speaker 2 (24:53):
You know, it's no different than the freeways here
in colorado.
People just get right on thefreeway without change lanes,
without looking too, so you, youcould tell when they're at the
roller rink yes, exactly.

Speaker 3 (25:04):
Well, that's what I was going to say, is I often
think to myself I cannot carrythe skating out onto the highway
.
I got to be different.
In the highway, you can't makethe car dance the same way as
you can your skates, you know.

Speaker 2 (25:18):
If you can, then you're allowed to have an ego.
After that, I'm just sayingRight, right.

Speaker 3 (25:39):
So now that, since you grew up out here, tell me a
little bit about how you've seenskating evolve just in the
Colorado scene since you were akid, since you've kind of been
involved in the scene for thelast 30 years, so, like, skate
City has always been around.
It's been a place that I wasable to go to.
They used to have a place andit changed names and they
changed everything about it, butit was called funplex and that
place had a skating rink in italso.
That was the second time I hadgone.
Skating was so that locationokay, uh and uh, so that so.

(26:06):
But the it's also kind of likethat niche thing, you know where
, you know a lot of people havedone it, but most people don't.
Um, you know it's uh, not likethe movies where almost
everybody's gone to a movie, youknow uh.
So there's that.
But I think that like, uh, likeyou, some of your other guests
have mentioned, it's it's, itebbs and flows, so uh.

(26:29):
The other aspect is that, likewhen I was growing up, in the
roller skating rink there was alike a step, especially that
first one, that ended up gettingshut down.
They would not allow you to useinlines inside there because
they were afraid that it wouldmess up the uh, the floors.
So I mean, that's also that howlong ago it was.

(26:50):
You know what I mean and so Iwas just something.
I don't know if it was one ofyour shows or if it was somebody
else, but it was the idea thatlike once upon a time the
skating rinks tried to like makeyou like lock into the skating
rink and not like you couldn'treally skate outside.
So that's the part of why I'venever really skated outside.
I mean, I the first time I didwas out of the rink that we

(27:12):
attend together all the time,and as I went out I realized,
like, with no toe stops, I'venever, uh, I like perfected t
stops or any of that stuff,because it just doesn't
something that I've ever thoughtabout.
I mean, like you said, we movenaturally, so however I stop, I
don't know what I'm doing, but Iknow that whatever I can do on

(27:32):
those smooth floors inside mighttear up my wheels outside, you
know, yeah so uh, I wasterrified going out into that
parking lot like, oh no, what amI gonna do?

Speaker 2 (27:43):
yeah, a lot of people like I.
If I take the skates that I'mat at the rink, I actually have
another set of wheels to put onfor outdoors.
So a lot of us actually switchbetween indoors and outdoors and
I know growing up we would getup early, take BART which is our
barrier rapid transit, our BARTtrains out to San Francisco,

(28:05):
skate Golden Gate Park all day,come back, change to our indoor
wheels and then hit the rinkfrom like 6 to midnight.
So it's like one of thosethings where when you're
dedicated and you know as wellas I know, as you get older the
hobby becomes more expensivebecause we want the better
wheels, the ceramic bearings,the stuff that makes you go

(28:27):
faster.
So even like our skates youknow I would say the skates that
I skate on now probably $450,$500 just with all the
modifications and everything.
So it's one of those things thatas you get older it progresses.
And even I tell people I'm like, just get yourself a starter,

(28:51):
like I was telling Julie andFelicia last night.
I'm like, check out MoxieSkates, because they've been
trying to find like a pair, butthey want to do the artistic
skating and Mindy was talkingabout you know you want one that
kind of has a heel and thatkind of stuff.
So she was talking to themabout different kinds of skates,
of has a heel and that kind ofstuff.
So she was talking to themabout different kinds of skates
because mindy skates on moxie,so it's just trying to point

(29:14):
them in the right direction andif they keep coming every week
they're only going to get better.

Speaker 3 (29:19):
So yeah, no, uh, myself, and I can't remember the
guy's name off the top of myhead, but another guy had both
told him.
Uh, that facebook marketplace.
So you know, like you mentionedit can.
It can be expensive, but, likethose skates we mentioned a
little while ago, uh, they werethe only ones I I bought and I
bought them in like 92.
My mom, my parents, bought themfor me like 92 or something

(29:41):
like that, and uh, 91 maybe eventhey cost around $1,000, but
they lasted.
All I ended up having to do wasI had worn out the trucks where
the kingpin goes through, so Ihad to replace my trucks.
That was like 40 bucks and thenthose bearings eventually went

(30:02):
bad.
But the bearings are like 40bucks for the Red Bones and
that's what I normally, uh do.
I did have some blue ones.
I can't remember.
I think they were the big balls, I think is what they were
called.
Okay, uh, the they were.
I think in this case that Ilost.
So you know, I've kind ofrebuilt this, the thing that I

(30:23):
that you see me rocking now thenike ones, the, and they're not
quite as good, but they'rereally good.
I mean, it's really close.
I mean, you know, I'm gonnahave to put like somewhere in
the area of uh like 12 to 1500into the boot if I'm going to
have the same boot made andit'll be like four to six weeks.
No, four to six months, becausethey'll be uh, what do you call

(30:46):
that?
Custom made?

Speaker 2 (30:48):
yeah, now what was?
The brand of the ones that youlost.
Do you remember the brand nameso?

Speaker 3 (30:53):
yeah, so it was a sure grip, magnum uh plate on a
ridell.
Uh, uh, I want to say it was a850.
Okay, yeah, so it's.
Uh, it's a discontinued boot,but since they color lab and
they make the skates custom, youcan do the same thing, because

(31:14):
they're all essentially the samething.
It's just that some of themhave like a strap over the top
and some of them have anintegrated system within the
skins of the skate that pullsthe heel in, and then others
have like a similar thing, butit's on the skins of the skate
that pulls the heel in, and thenothers have like a similar
thing but it's on the outside ofthe skate yeah so I don't know.
You know, like I say, I was likerecognizing that I had been

(31:37):
snobby about those.
But then when I went to the 15uh dollar ones and threw my
scraps off the old ones ontothose, I started to uh be able
to master those as in an equalway, although the fabric doesn't
hold your foot.
So that was an interestingthing to experience also a
little adaptation there yeah, soI've never tried anything else.

(32:02):
But uh, the rentals and thatparticular thing, cause even if
I had six pairs of skates in mylife, two of those were the same
thing that I, that I just lostand the one that I've just built
.
Essentially, it's all reallyabout that.
That plate, the boots you knowyou could like.

(32:22):
As you saw, I put a regularshoe on it.

Speaker 2 (32:25):
It's been working out you know, yeah, and you know,
with our skills that we can takea regular shoe on it.

Speaker 3 (32:30):
It's been working out , you know, yeah, and you know,
with our skills, that we cantake a rental and turn it into a
pretty sweet skate.
Yeah, it's like essentiallythat's what Mr Kirby was saying
the rocks on you is a nylonplate, which is what the rentals
are.

Speaker 2 (32:45):
Yeah, I mean I skate when we do the rink hockey and
it's funny because I canactually skate better backwards
on quads than I can on my skates.
But then I got a 100-millimeterwheel, so it's not that easy,
yeah, but it's.
Yeah.
I think with me, with my heightand my weight and everything,
that I would definitely have togo with the metal plate when I

(33:07):
get quads, I don't think thatnylon will last very long.

Speaker 3 (33:13):
Even if it does.
I mean it's just the overalllike idea of, like you know,
invest once in that way you haveit.
Because if you buy the cheaperthing I mean, unless you're
going with the use products offof, like you know, ebay or
Facebook or Poshmark or any ofthose places, unless you're
going, like you know, supercheap, like that, it's better to
just go ahead and pay the moneyfor the first time around.

(33:35):
Like I say, those, uh, thosethat I got, they were like, uh,
those plates were right in thearea of like 125, 130 now, which
really blew me away becausethey were such an expensive
skate back then.
I think back then that sameplate, brand new, while they
were still producing them, waslike three or four hundred, yeah

(33:55):
, you know.
So it was really amazing tocome across those.
I was like, well, yay, you know, it's okay.
I I guess it was time to get ridof them, because I joked around
that I've had those skates solong that you could smell them.
They had a smell about them andit didn't matter what kind of
febreze or lysol or whatever youput them in.
Whoo, somebody use these,exactly I think.

(34:18):
I think the thieves if they, ifthey, if they opened, it might
have just been like oh, what thehell is in there, you know.

Speaker 2 (34:27):
I can see that.
I can see that.
Did they ever recover your car?

Speaker 3 (34:33):
Yeah, so they recovered the car and I haven't
figured out what's going to behappening with that, but as soon
as they told me, I raced overthere and my skates weren't in
there.
I was like oh, no, so I hopethat whoever got them is
actually using them and it fixestheir life the way it kind of,
you know, kept us a lot of usout of trouble as you were

(34:53):
discussing.
You know, yeah, you know, itmakes you like even, uh, even
recently, like you know, growingup we, a lot of us probably
never, ever thought aboutputting on any pads or helmets
or anything like that.
But in this, uh, last few years, I've decided that I wear knee
pads at all times because, uh, Ikept falling exactly the same

(35:16):
way at the skating rink over andover again right there on the
outside of the joint, and I likeskating too much.
I don't want to mess it up, youknow, yeah, so I actually have
them on all the time.
Because I also found out is, ifyou've got knee, uh, knee pads
on, you have no problem gettingdown on your knee and then
getting back up and getting downand getting back up yeah,

(35:38):
exactly.

Speaker 2 (35:39):
The only time I usually wear a helmet is if I'm
skating outside with speedskates and um during speed
skating practice.
And I did fall in speed skatingpractice and hit my head, which
is what I had my helmet on, sothat was a lucky moment for me.
And then I just laid therebecause I felt stupid for
falling, because it was like Iwas coming off and I hit, like

(36:01):
they had that little block onthe exit, like right at the
bottom, and my skate clippedthat when I came off backwards.
So then I just went down and Ifelt stupid yeah.

Speaker 3 (36:14):
So, if you've ever noticed, I kind of like to skate
right there against the wall.
That's from the skate, thespeed skate route of it all,
because I noticed all the fallsthat ever took place in speed
skating was that uh edge clip onthe outside wall.

Speaker 2 (36:30):
They hit that, their belly rolling all the way down
the road, you know yeah I liketo do that I was gonna say I get
pretty close to that wallsometimes just because you don't
have a choice.

Speaker 3 (36:40):
So yeah, yeah, no, it's definitely like a part of
it.
So back then they they hadspeed skate during regular
sessions, which, uh, I thoughtwas gone all altogether.

Speaker 2 (36:50):
But when I went to roller city I found that they
have, uh, they make thatavailable during regular
sessions also oh nice yeah, Iknow uh, we used to have like
the boys fast skate and thegirls fast skate at the roller
rink and a lot of the times.
So we'd get two songs, each ofus would get two songs, and I

(37:11):
would go and I'd pick like thenine minute metallica song for
one of the songs, just so we gotmore time out there.
And then someone else wouldpick another like super.
So we had like 20 minutes outthere just to skate fast, which
was fun, because that's where ifyou can't skate fast, they
wouldn't let you on the floor.
They're like if you cannotskate fast, do not skate this.
You know it was for the moreadvanced skaters, which is kind

(37:34):
of cool that they do.

Speaker 3 (37:37):
So our skating rink did it Boys and girls.
They did a unit what do youcall that?
Co-ed or whatever they callthat.
They did both sexes.
But they did it by age groupsinstead, and they still do at
that roller city place.
They do it by age groups solike everybody 13 to and under
can go out now, everybody uh, 13through 16, everybody 17, uh

(38:00):
through adult or whatever youknow and uh.
So they'll each get like eithera full song or a partial song.
But I can still remember it wasalways one of two songs back
then in those public sessionspeed skates, highway to hell or
back in black.
It was always one of those twosongs, if not both it's got to
be metal be just because of thespeeds.

Speaker 2 (38:22):
It's like you're not going to skate fast at justin
bieber or justin timberlake.
I'm sorry, it just doesn't work.
So right, you're probably right, although skate fast at Justin.

Speaker 3 (38:29):
Bieber or Justin Timberlake.
I'm sorry, it just doesn't workRight.
You're probably right, Althoughyou know I found that.
I found it really funny whenthey played Delilah, how, even
though it's like a nice mellowsong, it's got a rather quick
tempo.

Speaker 2 (38:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (38:41):
You know, if you, if you, if you perceive it that way
, at least you know.

Speaker 2 (38:45):
Yeah, exactly, so perceive it that way, at least
you know.
Yeah, exactly, so I I likeroller city just because of the
fact that they don't have thewalls.
I love that.
Yes, because you, you were outthere at shuffle skate, weren't
you?
Yeah, I did, I, I, I did gothere yeah, I, I ended up
winning lights for my skates,but I will never put lights on
my skates, oh really, yeah, it'skind of like my car.

(39:07):
It's like I like the quietbecause I don't want to attract
attention.

Speaker 3 (39:11):
So yeah, I think that's kind of been in my mind
because, as I toyed with theidea of it, uh, I saw somebody
on facebook, uh the other daywho was asking about, uh, which
one of the skate cities heshould have his birthday party
at, and he was using somethingsimilar to what looked like

(39:31):
glowing glow stick nunchucks,but like the full size nunchuck.
I really enjoyed the idea ofthat because that was something
I but but that'd be like, well,like what I might do during flow
motion on a night when I'm allalone, cause I'm back to that
thing where I'm not reallytrying to capture everybody's
attention.
You know, yeah, I'm just tryingto forget that anything's going

(39:52):
on, ever, you know exactly.

Speaker 2 (39:55):
So now, who is one of your biggest influences for
skating?
Like, I know, you found theskates, but what?
Who was the influence thatdrove you to go further with it?

Speaker 3 (40:11):
Well, I would kind of honestly say like one of two
things, for, like you know, onesense, in a very truthful way,
you are because, through yourpodcast I've heard about Diamond
Walker and the people that youthat had the Olympic things or
everything.
I was never like into the skateculture, I just skated, I just

(40:35):
really enjoyed skating.
So I didn't know, like, asidefrom the biggest names like tony
hawks or not, as I don't knowif you remember that guy, uh, he
was one of the first like name,uh, brand, uh, uh, skateboard
producers and yeah.
So it was way back in like the80s actually, I think.
Uh, but uh, the.

(41:01):
So there was a guy named Jeffand I don't know anything more
than that, but he had thisreally like noodley way of the
way he skated.
It was, it was somethingsimilar to Groucho Marx and
those kinds of things and theway that he would move his body
and what have you.
And so that's a part of likethe stuff, the stuff that I do,

(41:24):
I think, in base, so to speak,but you know, nowhere near as
noodley as the young lady at theWestminster place.
You know, I can't help, sinceI've never introduced myself, I
don't know her name.
I know that the mother, thefather and her skate there.

Speaker 2 (41:40):
Yeah, that's Arvada.

Speaker 3 (41:42):
They're at a lot yeah and, uh, that young lady I I
call her the windsaw girlbecause she has got her most.
She's got the most unique formof skating I've ever seen, ever
and you have to be careful whenyou skate by her well, that's
what I marvel at is like I don'tknow that you do.
She seems to have everything inperfect control, because she

(42:05):
does that regardless of thepeople around her, and I've
never seen her kick anybody.

Speaker 2 (42:11):
I got hit once, Just going to say oh did you?
Yeah, I was skating.
But then I came around a lotquicker because of the speed
that I skate.
But she did manage to.
I did manage to run into herhand, so right, but I think
that's normal.

Speaker 3 (42:27):
I mean, I definitely have done a lot of that.
The worst one, though, was someway or another uh, three
different times where I justlike full body smack right into
somebody and we go down, and Idon't know why that ever happens
, except for I must not bepaying any attention.

(42:47):
Like I say, I really get lostin it, you know.

Speaker 2 (42:51):
Had to be one of the good songs.
Yeah, exactly.
So now we've discussed part ofyour equipment, but do you have
reds in your skates now?

Speaker 3 (43:05):
Yes, okay.
So that was one of the firstthings I did to get back to
being able to skate was I madesure to buy a set of Reds,
because those marketplace onesthey were like an Adidas
knockoff, which I found alsoreally funny, because the guy
says that nike or adidas and Ihad the adidas knockoff and the

(43:26):
nike, uh, homemade you know, anduh, they had some like thk in
there and they were very, veryslow bearings and they had
really soft wheels which, cometo find out through all the
research and stuff, the softerthe wheel, the slower it feels,
and so that was just driving mecrazy.
I'd literally come to a stoptrying to do the store stuff I

(43:47):
normally do at speed.
I'd come to a stop because ofthose things.
So that was the first thing Idid was get those and then, um,
as soon as I could do it, I gotthe same wheels I had lost off
the other ones.
They're like a 97a, okay.
They're uh, uh, backs, uh,backspin, I think is what they

(44:10):
are.
Yeah, backspin, okay, but Ilike the way they stick to the
ground.
So, like you mentioned the uhinlines or what or what have you
, the inline people are so muchfaster and I can almost keep up
with them as long as my wheelsticking my orange wheels from
the original skates from wayback back.
They, uh, they're like us, likemaybe in the 80s or the 60s,

(44:32):
okay, somewhere.
And so they're they.
They slide real easy and, uh, Iwould be right there on their
tail and I hit a corner and Ijust like slide out and they
laid, end up laying down, youknow, like damn that wasn't what
I was trying to do I've beenthere many a times.

Speaker 2 (44:49):
It happens to even the inline skaters.
But oh yeah, and I know youordered plates, but what?
What kind of plate did you get?
Like what's, what's your uhplate?
And we know you're using Nikes.

Speaker 3 (45:01):
Yeah, right, right.
So the plate that I got, it'san old, new stock.
I don't know how they end upcoming up online every now and
then, but it's called a SureGripMagnum, okay, and it's a
magnesium plate.
Um, the, the, the current model, that is basically the same

(45:26):
thing.
They make it in aluminum or inuh uh magnesium and that's the
avanti.
But I have not ever like got onthose or tried those.
But I can tell from all thedifferent research that that's
what they transferred the magnuminto.
Okay, I like the magnum becauseit's got like a, a real paddle
uh type of, uh setup like adumbbell kind of, so that it's I

(45:49):
.
I felt that it would be easy touh have like more metal control
across the sole of your footand, as you know, I kind of like
do the tap dance stuff on it.
So, uh, I had some plastic cubsI got out of a play it against
sports for like cheap price, youknow.
I had them on there and afterlike two months or so I broke,

(46:10):
cracked through one or two ofthose wheels.
So, yeah, so I have to go formetal hubs because of the way I
skate and what have you.

Speaker 2 (46:18):
Yeah, I mean equipment is important and
that's like one of the reasonswhy I like to find out what
people use, just because I don'tthink people realize how
important, especially if you'regoing to pursue this as like a
major hobby or, like me, whereit's actually starting to

(46:39):
transition into a profession forme, absolutely so it's.
You want transition into aprofession?
For me, absolutely so.
You want the good equipment andI like to see what the
beginners are using as opposedto the pros and see if there's
any crossover.
And it's just nice for peopleto know and kind of get ideas
and that way, if someone'sgetting into it and wants to
start putting a skate togetherhave all these different

(47:01):
resources that they can look upnow right.

Speaker 3 (47:04):
Yeah, no, that's a really great way of doing it.
Uh, I've enjoyed listening tothat and the uh different guests
include that have said, yeah, Ireally preach maintenance but I
never do anything about itbecause, you know, uh, I've
never even even thought aboutdoing that.
Uh, and I was at the uh milehigh rollers doing the things I

(47:28):
do and I somehow exploded a setof bearings, but thankfully they
had a merch guy there that hadthe bearings, because at that
point in time the rinks didn'thave bearings.
Uh, now I've noticed that theythey have the bearings and I'm
so grateful because, you know, Ididn't know you could blow them
up, but I could blow them up,you know exactly yeah, I almost

(47:48):
fell.
Uh, I caught, I caught.
Somebody else had blown theirsout and there were, uh, the, the
beans all over the floor herewas it their own skate or was it
one of the rentals?
Uh, no, no idea, because itdidn't seem like anybody had
noticed, so it could have evenjust been a single ball that
fell out, you know.

Speaker 2 (48:05):
Because I heard somebody lost some beads.
I think it was a bearing.

Speaker 3 (48:11):
Yeah, it was definitely beyond a shadow of a
doubt, a bearing, because afterit caught me like two times
within a like less than a footspace.

Speaker 2 (48:21):
I was able to locate it and pick it up and it was
definitely a bearing, a, a bean,whatever you call the little
bearing yeah, well, and now,last but not least, what is your
advice to up-and-coming skatersthat want to want to do this,
either as a hobby, or try tocompete, or whatever?

Speaker 3 (48:41):
you know what you want to do on the skates,
practice it in your shoes and onyour feet.
That's, that's probably likethe biggest thing, that you're
trying to do something special.
I tell people that I feel thatthe best way and my favorite way
to skate in general is the, the, they.

(49:03):
They call it the, uh, thebubble, and you know I I
basically liken it to swimming,what I do when I skate and I
call it the butterfly stroke.
But that thing, right there,you can first you get it
simultaneously, then you do one,then you do the other, and you
never have to lift your feetwhen you're skating.

(49:24):
You actually do not have tolift your feet at all when
you're skating, and so I thinkthat that's the most important
thing is just get out there,enjoy it, start off without
lifting your feet at all, likeyou're on a swimming pool,
moving your feet across thewater and causing ripples.
I'd like to tell uh mr kirbyhad said or like the you're on

(49:46):
the escalator and the floor ismoving.
You just have to step that theway you know.
So just do it and remember,like you know, it's not as if
you get used to falling.
If you know you're going to fall, then it's's not scary.
There's all kinds of ways toenjoy it.
You know the community part,the exercise part.

(50:07):
I went from smoking three packsa day to smoking less than a
pack a day once I started rollerskating again.
So that's, like you know, justone example of how much it has
improved my personal life inevery way, shape and form just
to participate in roller skatingagain.
That's awesome.
So I think that that's likedefinitely one of the things

(50:33):
that I love about what you'redoing, in that you know almost
all of them make mention of howmuch mental health benefits
there are to it.
So just do it.
Just know you're going to fall.
Know sometimes you're going tohurt yourself a little bit, but
if you learn how to fall andyou're not afraid of it, you'll
minimize injury and you'llmaximize the energy of all the

(50:57):
fun and everything that is goodabout it.
Exactly.

Speaker 2 (51:03):
Now I just found you on Facebook.
Is there social media thatpeople could follow you on or
see your journey?

Speaker 3 (51:13):
Yeah, I mean.
So I've been posting on myFacebook a lot more.
I accidentally gave this ladythe wrong name and that feels so
weird, but my name is WilliamDowdy and you can find me with a
picture of my face on Facebook.
And then my name on Instagramis Will Dowdy and again it's a

(51:34):
picture of my face.
So, you know, it's kind of thatarrogant smirk that I think
causes people to look at me.
But that's who it is and youknow, I don't suggest you go
there if you're easily likeoffended because I am a

(51:54):
Christian.
I believe we're like goingthrough a bunch of stuff because
of the way that our nation isno longer christian and a lot of
my posts might reflect that.
So I might be setting somethingup at some point in time, uh,
like to where it's nothing butmy roller skating, yeah, so that

(52:14):
that way people can enjoy it.
Uh, I'm also uh, I don't know,I have a YouTube channel that
I've posted my squirrel Okay, Afew dozen videos of a squirrel
that I had had for a short time,a long time ago, Maybe a video
of my son when he was like justolder than a toddler, and then

(52:37):
like a few, maybe a dozen videosof me roller skating Nice and
then like a few, maybe a dozenvideos of me roller skating.
That'd be like the safest placeto look at what I do without
being offended by what I think.

Speaker 2 (52:47):
Just remember he said if you're offended easily,
don't follow Right.
Well, I appreciate you comingon today.

Speaker 3 (52:56):
So I really appreciate you asking me.
I mean, I'm I really enjoyedyou doing this show.
It's it's opened me up to thefact that there's like that
culture, the names, thedifferent influences, the
different people uh that are outthere, uh, the different ways
that that people uh utilizeroller skating specifically.

(53:17):
But I love how you do it withthe ice skating and the uh the
skateboarding and all that anduh, yeah, the the longboard.
Remember, if you're going toget yourself a skateboard, look
at the longboards.
They'll, they'll be a loteasier for you to be able to
like, enjoy, unless you'retrying to trick and go in the
drop-ins and the bowls and allthat you know you know I'm gonna

(53:38):
have to get both, just so I canhave a different skate for
everything.

Speaker 2 (53:41):
So yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 3 (53:43):
Yeah, no, I, I, I, I.
I marvel at the fact that justas long little as like four
years ago, I was using alongboard.
I'd walk my kids to the busstop.
They think.
I think they would ride it tothe bus stop, they so yeah.

Speaker 2 (53:58):
Very cool.
So this is going to be thelatest episode, so I appreciate
it once again and look forwardto seeing you next Friday night.
Are you going to go tomorrownight at Arvada for?

Speaker 3 (54:12):
adult.
No, you know, I basically runthe flow.
They tell me that I'm runningthe flow motion at the
Westminster.
So from 8 to 9 at Westminster Igo there, and since I work at 1
o'clock in the morning on myregular job, I have foregone
going to Arvada for a while now.

Speaker 2 (54:32):
Okay, well, and there's another way to find him.
If you live in Colorado, showup at Skate City Westminster on
Fridays and Saturday nights forFlow Motion.

Speaker 3 (54:42):
Yep, I'm almost always there.
Well, thank you sir.
Thank you, have a great day.
It's been a pleasure you too,you, thank you, thank you.