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What happens when you take up skateboarding at 25? Join us as we chat with Jennifer Barilaro, a remarkable woman who discovered the exhilarating world of board sports later in life, inspired by her skater husband. Across 22 years, she's thrown herself into skateboarding, snowboarding, and even surfing the chilly waves of Lake Erie—all while balancing family life and entrepreneurship. Jennifer shares her passion for these thrilling pursuits, describing how they have become integral to her family's shared adventures and personal growth, particularly emphasizing the importance of fostering confidence in young girls at skate parks.

In our conversation, Jennifer opens up about her multifaceted career journey, which includes everything from bartending to operating heavy machinery and selling wellness products. Her story is a testament to the power of pursuing passions, even if it means making sacrifices. We explore how she transitioned from a stable union job to embrace a lifestyle that prioritizes family and personal fulfillment, underscoring the struggles and triumphs of balancing work and family in a modern world. Jennifer's entrepreneurial spirit is palpable, and her insights into skateboarding and health are both inspiring and practical.

We also dive into Jennifer's skateboard setup, her admiration for skating legends like Lance Mountain, and the vibrant community she finds in groups like the Cleveland Misfits. As we wrap up, Jennifer shares her enthusiasm for electrolyzed reduced water, exploring its potential health benefits and urging listeners to consider sustainable living practices. Join us for an episode filled with personal stories, fascinating insights, and a celebration of board sports as a source of vitality and connection.

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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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(00:30):
and influencers in the industry.
So sit back, relax and getready for an exciting journey
into the world of skating.

Speaker 2 (00:41):
Welcome to this week's episode of how Do you
Skate Podcast.
I am your host, sean Egan, andmy guest today is Jennifer, and
I know I'm going to butcher herlast name, even though I just
pronounced it Bar-ee-ah-ro.

Speaker 3 (00:53):
Bar-ee-lah-ro.

Speaker 2 (00:55):
Bar-ee-lah-ro.
Yes, all right, there we go.
So welcome to the show.

Speaker 3 (00:59):
Thank you, thanks for having me.

Speaker 2 (01:05):
So now, how old were you?
And?

Speaker 3 (01:06):
when did your whole skating journey start?
I was 25 years old when Istarted skateboarding.
I'm 47 now, so it's been alittle over 20, 22 years that
I've been riding.

Speaker 2 (01:17):
Okay, and how was that whole start for you?

Speaker 3 (01:20):
So yeah, I know, isn't that funny to start
skating at 25?
It's kind of odd.

Speaker 2 (01:24):
Not really, I guess.
So 25?

Speaker 3 (01:25):
It's kind of odd, not really, I guess.
So yeah, it's not too bad.
So I, my husband, has beenskateboarding, for he's coming
up on 40 years skating.
He's 52 this year and he's frommy hometown.
I I've known him since I was 14and I moved away when I was 22
and I went and I just left OhioI live outside of Cleveland,

(01:51):
ohio and I moved out West and Iwanted to just kind of, you know
, just be a free spirit.
So I just left the state and Ilived in Oregon, alaska, utah
and Wyoming.
And then I came back home justto kind of recoup, see my family
and see, just a visit, right,and I met back up with my
husband and I just couldn'tleave.
He's been skating, like I said,for years, so he'd always go
skate and it was always his get,like his getaway from his

(02:13):
ex-girlfriends.
He'd be like, hey, I'm going togo skate with my friends.
And then all of a sudden I waslike, oh, what does that feel
like?
Can I try?
Can I try?
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(03:09):
Like they were always looking at, like the guys out West, and
they were, you know, trying tobe like Tony Alva and they were
like imitating and just doingwhat they want to do, and so
finally, like everything'sstarting to like we're making
our own.
They're old enough now Like myhusband was old enough, where,
you know, they've been buildingramps their whole lives Um, but
all of a sudden, more and morepeople were building you know
backyard bowls and emptyswimming pools, and we were like

(03:30):
starting to figure they werestarting to like get more and
more into transition.
And so that's how I startedskating is that?
My husband has been doing itfor years and I just kind of I
jumped on his tail feathers, andthen I just literally I haven't
stopped.
It's like it's changed me.
I love skateboarding so verymuch.
So that's that's kind of how Istarted.

Speaker 2 (03:48):
Now I've seen some of your videos.
Is that the only board sportyou do?

Speaker 3 (03:52):
No, not at all.
Actually I'm addicted to allboard sports.
I teach snowboarding at a smallVail resort called Boston Mills
, brandywine.
It's right outside of CuyahogaValley National Park and Vail
from Colorado.
Vail Resorts bought it aboutthree years ago and it's a small
little, you know, beautifullearning hill.

(04:16):
I mean it's obviously not likea Vail resort but it's perfect
for kids to learn and to startout.
It's great.
I love it.
So I teach snowboarding.
I had my level onecertification back in the early
2000s and I let it expirebecause I wasn't really using it
.
So I don't really have thelevel one, but still you don't
have to have it to teach.
So I teach and I'm the hillsupervisor at the resort.
And then I also.

(04:36):
I surf on Lake Erie all theentire year.
I love surfing, especially inthe summer.
In the winter, in the fallmonths are that the waves are
better and the lake.
A lot of people don't know thatyou can surf on Lake Erie.
It's not wind, it's not ocean,you know.
Obviously it's a lake so it'sfreshwater, so it's not tide
generated, like most oceans are,it's wind generated.

(04:58):
So when the waves are good, youknow you have to pay attention
and you have to get out thereand do it.
And usually we're in ourwetsuits Cause, you know, like I
said, in the summertime thewaves aren't that good.
So I have, like I don't know,probably four or five different
wetsuits, like I have a wholequiver of, you know, boards and

(05:23):
suits, because in the winter,like I have a six mil wetsuit.
So I like going out whenthere's not a lot of people,
because the lake's not thebiggest place.

Speaker 2 (05:30):
Yeah, I don't like being cold.
I do HVAC now full time andbeing up on roofs during winter.
I'm outside a lot, so I kind ofdo enjoy the heat.
I'm not putting on a wetsuit togo in the water.

Speaker 3 (05:41):
Yeah, fair enough.
But I mean, by the time you getinto that damn wetsuit and
you're sweating and by the timeyou get past the break, I just
it's, it's, it's fun, it's likeI enjoy the rush.
I don't know why I in in tolife, I like I like adrenaline,
I like rushes.
That's why I like riding vert.
When you drop in on a vert rampyou're literally like your
stomach just comes up to hereand you feel that g-force.

Speaker 2 (06:02):
It's just, I don't know, I I sure enjoy it now how
similar, because I snowboardedonce um and skateboarded way
back last century and neversurfed.
But like the balance factorbetween all three, are they very
similar, or how do you?

Speaker 3 (06:21):
are they a?
little different they're alittle different each one, but
they're basically the sameconcept.
Where you're riding sideways,you're either regular, you're
goofy, um, snowboarding is weirdbecause you're strapped in and
that's kind of hard, like to me,I.
I see people bmxing and I Ikind of get scared because
that's like 30, 40 pounds ofmetal that's coming down on you.

(06:41):
Like with your skateboard youcould just throw it away.
You, you know, you, you bailout on a trick.
You literally learned to slideout.
Like sliding out is a trick,that is a you master.
Sliding out and falling, that'slike part of it.
Um, so I guess to me I don'treally like being attached.
Snowboarding I get.
Out of all three sports,snowboarding I get hurt the most
because the speed, like you canfly and you literally can catch

(07:04):
your edge, or you can just,like I, go so fast on my
snowboard and I love it, butit's definitely I feel like I
get hurt the most.
And then with surfing, thewater could be very, um, brutal,
like you can smack it out andlike you have to be a good
swimmer, but also like I don'tknow it, just I'm a lazy, I'm a
lazy surfer and I don't like towait.

(07:25):
Like, like with surfing youhave to have variables, you have
to be in the right spot, youhave to paddle out, you have to
you know, do this, this, and X,x, y and Z.
I don't want to do that.
I just want to go like give mea concrete bowl or give me
something that I could just dropin and go Like I feel like
surfing you have to really havelike patience yeah and it's,
it's wonderful.
But I just feel like I'm alittle like I'm kind of spoiled.

Speaker 2 (07:45):
I just like I said I want to, I just want something I
can, just a concrete bowl andjust go yeah, and with surfing,
a lot of times you have to waitfor that wave to come in, so you
can be sitting out there for awhile too, right?

Speaker 3 (07:55):
well, the lake is not like that.
It doesn't come in sets likeyou think it would.
You know, like rolling sets,like a beautiful, like three
sets come in.
No, it's a fricking washingmachine, like you are.
If you're like, it does set upnicely sometimes but like for
the most part you have to getused to just like being taken in
different directions and thecurrent I'm like 115 pounds

(08:17):
soaking wet.
So like to me the current'sjust like screw you, you're
coming with me this directionand so like you almost have have
to.
Like what we do when we surf iswe surf at a place called
edgewater is usually like myhome break.
But if you go on a surf lineit's hilarious because there's
different like names for each.
Like you have jackson hole pier, you have like jackson pier,
you have like different spotsthat you know you can see if the

(08:39):
waves are good.
At my home break it's callededgewater and it's called
pinched loaf.
It literally is called thatbecause sometimes the sewer pipe
opens and it actually it's.
It's really not good.
Like the lake is a lot cleanerthan it ever used to be, but
it's still like on surf line.
That's what it's called.
It's called a pinched loaf.

Speaker 2 (08:57):
It's so bad oh, that just does not sound good it's
not, but you know it.

Speaker 3 (09:03):
That's only when the water like the runoff, it's only
when a really big storm comesand, like the sewer system's old
so it can't hold all of the run.
You know the one the runoff.
So, yeah, it doesn't open thatoff and maybe like once a year
it's still, but it's still likeit opens, which you know.
And they're working on it.
They just did and that's what'skind of fun, they just did a
whole new project, the WesterlyShore I think it was Westerly

(09:27):
Shore District Sewer Companywhere they just rebuilt a bunch
of storage holding tanks.
And the really cool thing wasis I was an operator with heavy
machinery and I worked down inthe tunnel.
So I was actually operating alocomotive machine where the
train would take the muckbuckets into the, I guess into
the tunnel, and then this thingcalled tunnel boring machine,

(09:50):
this tbm machine, would, likeyou know, muck, muck all of the
inside of the matter of the, thetunnel and then it would go on
a conveyor belt and then theconveyor belt would dump all the
like muck muck into my bucketsand then I would back the train
out of the tunnel and then thecrane would come in and pick up
the bucket and then dump it andthen put it back on and then I'd

(10:10):
go back in and do it again andI would do that all day long.
So it was really cool to be asurfer and be like an operator
and helping like clean up thelake.
So that was kind of fun.
But nice.
Yeah, yeah.
So now it, does your husbandstill skateboard too?
Oh yeah, definitely, but hewould rather surf.
He, he kind of is like, yeah,skateboarding's fun, but he just
would rather just kind of go.

(10:31):
And you know, surfing is alittle bit easier.
I guess on your body, I don'tknow you'll see people last a
lot longer surfing thanskateboarding, I think.
But I guess he's just beendoing it for so many years and
like he doesn't care to ridelike the big shit, like I do,
like I, I I've been like doinglike roll-ins of 16 foot, like
like revert ramps, like I lovedoing like like a Jackson uh

(10:54):
Kona skate park.
They have a huge vert ramp andI love doing that roll-in.
It's like there's a 16 foot andthen a 19 foot and I haven't
done the 19 yet but I did the 16and he's like, yeah, screw that
, I don't care, I'm good.
So he would rather he would be,I think, much rather surfing.
So I kind of let him go surfand he kind of lets me go skate,
and like we used to be a lotmore but we have two kids.
So it's like sometimes likeit's it's good to have the kids,

(11:15):
but you know it takes away fromlike we take them with
consistent.
Now it's like, eh, we'll get toit when we can and we, it's not
as consistent as it we used tobut it's it's our fault for not
being Kids will do that yeah.

(11:36):
Yeah, so are your kids gettinginto skateboarding then?
Or yeah, so I don't know We'vehad.
Where we used to live in Parmacause I'm born and raised Parma,
ohio, represent Parma Um, we,um, we had a seven foot tall
half pipe, so it was seven foottall, 20 foot wide, um, eight
foot or it was eight foottransitions, and it had pool
coping on the one side and metalcoping on the other, so it was
a perfect ramp for, like, justin our backyard.

(11:57):
It was great.
So my kids they're 12 and nine.
I have a girl that's 12 and aboy that's nine and so when we
came home from the hospital,like that's literally the first
thing that we did was we put thekids on a board on the ramp,
like before they even came inthe house they were like three
days old, like the kids were onthe board.
It was great.
So, like we, they've grown upwith it.
That's always been around them,but we never pushed it.
You know we're like hey, you,you want to skate, cool, if you

(12:19):
daughter got hurt.
Actually, she got, um, she felloff the side of the ramp and
got four stitches on herforehead.
So she's been a little bit kindof hesitant and now she's
starting to get into it, like Ido girl, like all girls skating
and I try to do like um lessonsfor girls, because girls get
intimidated at skate parks.
They don't really want to hangwith the boys, they don't, they
don't have the balls, just belike I'm going, I'm gonna snake

(12:42):
you or I'm gonna there, and solike we have like just all girls
sessions.
So my daughter's been helpingme teach those and it's building
her confidence up, which isreally nice, because she didn't
realize that she could skate.
She's like holy cow, mom, I canactually pump and I can.
I could do this.
I'm like I know, cause you'vebeen skating your whole life,
but you know you can't tell her.
You know she's got to hear it.
Then my son just learned todrop in for the first time just

(13:03):
a couple months ago.
He learned to carve around thebowl.
It's definitely been kind offun.

Speaker 2 (13:12):
Like I said, I don't push it, but if they want to,
they're kind of forced tobecause we do the nice thing
about it is.

Speaker 3 (13:18):
That's kind of a family activity you can all do
together.
It's so nice.
We're not necessarily likeorganized sports and you got to
go to football and stuff.
It's like no, I like I loveskateboarding and we go um, I
have my kids.
I signed them up because myschool wasn't, my kid's school
wasn't doing the ski club.
So I became the advisor of theski club at the resort and so
they go every single week, nowlike once a week and it's a five
week program and it's.

(13:39):
It's great.
Yeah, it's.
It's a family event that we doon our terms.
It's not like we have to bethere at this time and practice
this time and do that.
So it's definitely I reallyenjoy that as a family yeah.

Speaker 2 (13:52):
The nice thing is about skateboarding and we
talked about like freestyle andartistic skating is that like
with hockey and speed skating,there's like rules that you have
to follow and that kind ofstuff, but when it comes to
skateboarding it's like wideopen yeah free for all.
You just keep pushing betterand better.
I mean, I was actually at the XGames that Tony Hawk hit the

(14:15):
900.

Speaker 3 (14:16):
No way years ago.
Oh, that's awesome.

Speaker 2 (14:18):
So that kind of tells you how old I am.
I think me and your husband areabout the same age, yeah that's
awesome, but it you how old Iam.
I think me and your husband areabout the same age, but, um,
yeah, that's awesome.
So, but it's just like one ofthose things that it's just, it
just keeps evolving, it, just itjust doesn't get stale and you
know.

Speaker 3 (14:37):
And then it's nice to see how kids are coming up and
yeah, it's like a whole new.
These grounds are just like youlook at them, you're like, how
are you doing this?
And it's great, like I love it.

Speaker 2 (14:45):
It's exciting.
I think it was either the XGames.
There was a 13-year-old girlthat hit the 900.
And she was like the first girland I'm like dude and she's
only 13.

Speaker 3 (14:55):
Is she Japanese?
I think it was a little.

Speaker 2 (14:57):
Yeah, I know she's Asian, but not sure so.
So, but I mean it's justamazing how it's going.
So now, with you teaching thegirls and everything, are you
getting like a big response forgirls getting into skateboarding
?

Speaker 3 (15:10):
then where you're at, Um, yeah, and we're, like I
said, where we're at.
Sure, the more girls thatrealize that we do it, the more
girls are coming out of thewoodwork, because a lot of girls
know and they want to, butthey're hesitant and if somebody
like advocates it, like me,that's a girl and they're like,
wow, I see her doing it, it'sgreat.
Um, so I have.
My friend is um Amelia Brodka.
She's out in California and shestarted doing exposure skates.

(15:32):
Exposure, it's like um, allgirls skate competition.
I think this year was their13th or 14th year, maybe even
more, now 16th, I can't rememberhow many years she's been doing
it, but they're like absolutelydominating the all girls skate
scene and like they're inEncinitas.
So she she is doing so good withthis, just like getting all
these girls out and about andlike learning that it's okay.

(15:54):
Girls can do it too.
You know, just cause the guysare doing it doesn't mean we
can't.
We just have to have theinitiative to just go and do it
and push ourselves.
Because I mean, what's thedifference, girl or guys?
That's what I love aboutskateboarding Nobody cares,
nobody gives a shit.
Like if you're, it doesn'tmatter what level you are, it
doesn't matter how good you are.
Everybody is at their own leveland everybody is pushing each

(16:16):
other at their own level, and sothat's what I love about it
there's no competition.

Speaker 2 (16:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (16:20):
And just that's how.
That's what I think about it.
I love skateboarding for thataspect of it and that's why I
don't like to compete.
I've been to a couple ofcompetitions and people ask me
why don't you compete, jen, andI'm like cause then I have to
get better for my sponsors or Ihave to do like.
I don't want to do that.
I just want to have fun.

Speaker 1 (16:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (16:40):
You know, it's something that they're like, wow
, you're grinding the deep endor something.
And they're like what kind oftrucks do you got?
What kind of bearings?
And I'm like I don't give ashit, it doesn't matter what
kind I got.
Are you having fun?
And that's what it's about isjust having fun.

Speaker 2 (16:52):
Those questions are coming up later in the podcast.

Speaker 3 (16:54):
Well, all right, I'm ready.

Speaker 2 (16:58):
So, but it's uh, it's really cool that you do all
this stuff and everything now,thanks, and you do it as a
family, which is really cool.
So it's not like your husband'slike oh, you're going skating
again, or anything like that.
But then at the same time, hecouldn't use that as an excuse
to get away from you, like hedid his ex-girlfriends.

Speaker 3 (17:15):
Yeah, yeah, and that's what's so funny.
He would always be like like Ifeel like I'm cheating on you.
I'm sorry, dude, it's so cuteand he's like damn it.

Speaker 2 (17:28):
So now, has there ever been a time since you were
25 where it's kind of like youwent through like a low, where
it's like you almost you didn'twant to do it anymore?
It's kind of like you weren'tsure, like because I know you
said it was good for your mentalhealth and everything and I
find that a lot.
But sometimes you know we dosomething and then all of a
sudden we go through that, justthat, where we need that mental

(17:48):
break.

Speaker 3 (17:49):
No, never, because I don't compete, because I only do
it for fun and I do it formeditation.
It's like my um, it's my getaway, Like you don't think, when you
skate I just that's why I loveriding bowls and like, actually
like parks where you could justlike you drop in and you just
flow.
It's very and these skate parksthat these guys are doing
nowadays they are building thislike organic skate park where

(18:10):
you don't ever have to kickagain, you drop in and then
you're just like pumping andit's so organic is like the only
way I can describe it.
It's so beautiful.

Speaker 2 (18:20):
That works.
So now has skateboarding andskating and snowboarding and all
that led to other things foryou.

Speaker 3 (18:30):
Um, I mean, being a girl doing it.
I guess it has just, you knowmore and more people, don't they
?
Guys, if you skate, yeah,you're a guy that skates.
But if you're a girl and you'redropping in on vert or you're
like doing a big backside carveon a vert ramp, like they're
like, wow, that's a girl, thatjust did that.
So, yeah, I guess by being agirl, it kind of you know, set

(18:50):
me aside, but nothing's reallylike I don't know.
I guess I never pursued it tohave it come out.
I just do it, Like I said, I doit for fun.
I don't do it to get sponsorsor to get better.
I I do it as a hobby and I justdo it for fun.

Speaker 2 (19:05):
Okay, now the business.
You said you have your ownbusiness.
Now is that a business that youhave, that you met someone in
skateboarding that led you to it, or is that something that you
came across?

Speaker 3 (19:15):
No, yeah, so okay.
So I was an operator, so I'm acareer bartender.
That's where my career was.
I have been a bartender mywhole life and I quit drinking
like two and a half years agobecause it just wasn't fun
anymore.
I just was so hungover and Iknow the older you get it just I
, I wanted to get healthier, soI decided to try to go to a

(19:35):
different path and so I became amachine operator, you know,
with the union.
So I was a heavy equipmentoperator and I thought that was
it.
I said, oh sweet, I can do thisjob.
It's got a great pension, it'sgot a great pension, it's got a
good insurance.
Both my husband and I appliedfor the job and I got the job.
And I think it's honestly Idon't know if you have young
kids, but I apologize if you do,but I got the job because I
have that little patch furbetween my legs and he's a white

(19:56):
male he didn't get it.

Speaker 2 (19:58):
I don't know if young kids listen to it, but we talk
about stuff here, so okay.

Speaker 3 (20:03):
Well, I got it because I I think I got the job
because I was a female, becauseit's a union, so I had more.
I was a minority, so both of usapplied.
I got the job and so for twoyears I was an apprentice and I
was, you know, doing theoperators union and I loved it.
It's like, honestly, my mostfavorite thing, like being an
oiler for a crane or operating.
I had my skid steercertification, a front end

(20:24):
loader, rough terrain forklift,industrial forklift, what I said
skid steer signal person forcranes.
And then I basically I got myCDLB.
So I love heavy machinery.
Like I said, the tunnel boringmachine is probably like the
sexiest machine I've ever seenin my life.
But as a mom I was missing outon my kids.

(20:45):
I wasn't able to be there forthem.
You know they're growing up andif they were sick I couldn't
just be like, hey, I gotta go, Igotta leave this.
You know, construction jobbecause my kids are sick, or if
they needed me at school, Icouldn't just walk away and I
didn't want that.
I was.
I was so stressed out going towork, sean, like it sucked.
I didn't like it.
I't like I said, bartending,you're just like, okay, I gotta

(21:06):
go.
Like my kids are sick.
It was a real big girl job andI thought it was what I wanted,
and so I realized that it wasn't, and so I walked away from it.
I said, all right, I can't dothis.
I'm stressed out.
I don't like this feeling.
My kids are more important.
Those machines will be there,the union will be there, my kids
won't.
Um, so I walked away from theunion and it was scary because I

(21:27):
was like, well, I'm just goingto be a stay at home mom and one
income man.
That that was hard man.
You can't live on one income.
Let me tell you, nowadaysespecially, it was fricking
stressful.
So I'm online and I'm lookingfor ways and I'm in, you know,
in the internet, and I'm due todo looking for something.
I need a hustle, I needsomething that I could do.
Skateboarding is not going topay the bills.

(21:48):
I mean, does it really?
You know?
No, it never does you know,unless you're a pro skateboarder
and you're doing great and I'mlike, I'm good, but I'm not that
good and I don't want to bethat good, I don't care, like I
don't, I don't think, anyways.
So I'm online and I'm lookingand all of a sudden, I find this
ad, and this ad is like a womanand her kids and her pitch was,

(22:13):
I thought, homeschooling mykids.
I thought that, you know, beinga one income was always going
to be a one income family, but Ifound a better way and I was
intrigued and I was like, okay,this is, this is interesting,
tell me more.
So I, you know, clicked on thead and I met this girl, Wendy.
Wendy Wynowski and the freedomfinding family is her Instagram

(22:37):
and her Facebook.
So I I clicked on the ad and Istarted talking with her and I
befriended her.
She was amazing.
She was homeschooling her kids,which is something that I
wanted to do.
Um, I'm trying to live more oflike a holistic quit drinking,
trying to feed my kids, you know, non-processed foods and I'm
trying to get healthy, for thefact that life is too short and
I want to be the best ateverything I could do.

(22:58):
I want to be healthy, I want toeat right, I want to drink
right, and so I found her andI'm watching her and she's
talking about this businessmodel that she's her and I'm
watching her and she's talkingabout this business model that
she's.
You know, she found a way tohave passive income and be a
stay at home mom but still makemoney.
And I'm like, ooh, this lookskind of cool.
But I'm like, shit, it's online, it's.
You know, I don't trust it.
I don't trust many things.
When you see something online,you're like, yeah, I'll be weary

(23:22):
, you know what you have to be.
Um, so I sat back and I watchedher for a year, sean, I
literally watched her for a yearand I was like, all right,
what's she doing?
How's she making money?
How's this working?
Right?
And, um, so she was talkingabout this business plan, okay,
and I was like, all right, I'mcurious, tell me more.
And I watched her.

(23:42):
So, basically, it's a businessplan that is a high ticket
affiliate marketing, and how itworks is you have these amazing
things now, which is automation.
You have ads running, you havethings that you're utilizing
social media for.
And then I was like, well, whatare you advertising for?
And so then it's.

(24:08):
I dive deeper and I realizedthat she has these.
She was, she's working for thiscompany that is a 50 year old
Japanese company, and what it isis they're selling these water
ionizers and they're called K8sKangen water is the name of the
water and these water ionizers.
It's a premier water ionizerthat basically changes your tap
water.
It transforms everybody's tapwater that you hook up in your

(24:29):
kitchen and it was started inJapan.
It was just started into thesehospitals in Japan and all of a
sudden they're like, well, wecould do it residentially here.
And this company has beenaround since 1974.
They've paved the way for thiswater ionizer.
So you hook it up to your tapwater and it basically
transforms your tap water intoalkaline reduced, electrolyzed,
reduced water.
Okay, and I'm like, holy shit,I skateboard.

(24:52):
I want to hydrate myself thebest that I can.
So I was like, oh my goodness,have you ever drank in molecular
hydrogen water or have you everheard of it?

Speaker 2 (25:02):
yes, I have.
I've been involved the I wasinvolved in the health and
fitness industry for a long timeand went to conferences like
Expo West out in Anaheim, so Iseen a lot of stuff and and I
even saw a.
What was it?
It was a almond milker that youcould buy for your house, where

(25:24):
you pour the almonds and makeyour own almond milk.

Speaker 3 (25:27):
Okay, interesting Okay.

Speaker 2 (25:29):
Interesting.
Well then you know a little bit.

Speaker 3 (25:31):
Have you ever drank in the water?
Have you ever seen what it doesfor you?

Speaker 2 (25:35):
Yeah, but not on a long term.
There was a company called Roexthat I used to have one too,
but I mean, I don't know ifthey're still in business or I
know they got bought out in theoriginal, so I think they're
just more still supplements.
But yes, I understand whatyou're talking about and I have
tasted the water.
It is good.

Speaker 3 (25:53):
Okay, yeah, no.
So basically it's not even like.
I found that she had a businessmodel that has a patented
compensation plan, literally,that has generational wealth,
and that actually I could getwilled to my children, like I
could pass it down to mychildren Once you hit like a
certain ranking and and then Irealized, well, wait a second,
there's a business model thatworks, there's a product that

(26:14):
works that I have already beenhydrating, but I've been
hydrating with my wrong type ofwater.
Like honestly, like peopledrink, like like this shit, this
is horrible.
The microplastics that are inthis and the water, the quality
of the actual bottled water youdon't even know what's in that
water.
And then drinking tap water toothere's so much chlorine,
there's fluoride, there's allthese different chemicals that

(26:34):
are in this water that Ihonestly I did I was poisoning
my, like I don't want to drinkthat water anymore.
So just by hooking up the water, it is honestly the best
feeling I've ever felt in mylife.
It is so rich in antioxidantsand because of the process that
it goes through and what it does, so it's basically you plug it
in, excuse me, and it basicallygoes through a process of

(26:57):
electrolysis and it separatesthe water into alkaline and
acidic water and there's twohoses and there's a different pH
balance where you can literallychange the pH settings to five
different settings and they goas low as 2.5 and you go all the
way up to 11.5.
And there's 86, 85 uses forthis water not only for drinking

(27:18):
, it to be hydrated, but you canuse it for cleaning, which is
crazy to me, because I want togreen my house, I want to have a
better house, that I don't haveto use bleach, I don't have to
use chemicals.
Well, this water you can use toclean.
It's called hypochloric acid.
So how do you use water forthese properties?
It blew my mind.
I'm like what are you talkingabout?
All right, then you can use itfor beauty water, you can use it

(27:39):
for your toner, you can use itfor shampoo, you can use it for
conditioner, you can use it forlaundry detergent, and then you
get to like the alkaline waterwhere it goes 8.0, 8.5, 9.5.
I mean, it goes all the way upto like 9.5, and that's the
drinking water, and that's likewhere it gets good, because it
literally goes to the hydrolysisprocess and it shocks the water
, it literally makes the wateralive, which to me, like I get

(28:03):
so excited.
I'm like, what do you mean?
Water that's alive, like how isthat possible?
And then what it does to you,it's it.
I'm still like just so excitedabout it.
It's kind of ridiculous.
People are like wow, jen,you're really excited about this
water.
I'm like, because I love it, Idrink water all the time.
I surf in it, I snowboard on it,I'm like water's my element.
So I found something thatabsolutely resonates with me and

(28:25):
my lifestyle and I can makemoney selling it and actually
promoting it and bringing inpeople saying, hey, are you
interested in changing yourwater and changing your life?
Are you interested in actuallynot doing the nine to five
anymore?
Are you a stay-at-home mom, thatdoesn't want to do, just
stay-at-home mom and not havepassive income.

(28:46):
It was like an aha moment.
I'm like holy cow.
I found something that I'm morepassionate about than anything
in my life and I can still bepart of my kid's life.
I can still be there and, as ofright now, I have ads running.
I have automated ads goingright now that people are
looking for.
I don't have to go knocking onpeople's doors like, hey, you
want to buy some water?
They're online and if you'rescrolling online, you might as

(29:10):
well be making content and youmight as well be getting paid
for it.

Speaker 2 (29:13):
Exactly.

Speaker 3 (29:14):
It just made sense to me, so I went ahead and I
purchased the products.
That's all that they ask you todo is you purchase one of the
ionizers because they want youto test it.
They want you to tell you, hey,how do you feel, what is your
standpoint on drinking thiswater?
And so they want you to buy theproduct, and that's what you
have to do.
I went into it with buying allof the products.

(29:35):
We have more than one.
We have the ionizer, we have ashower filter, we have some soap
and supplements that areturmeric supplements which are
amazing, for I mean turmeric orturmeric, however you pronounce
it.
It's same thing with the water.
If you drink the alkaline water, it reduces your inflammation,
which, as a skateboarder andsomebody that's surfing and
snowboarding, constantly doingstuff and falling, you're

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inflaming your body and likebreaking bones and healing from
bones like literally it is.
I'm promoting hydration whiledetoxifying myself and overall
wellness.
So it was just like thisoverall.
Like Holy cow, I can make money, I can hydrate and still be
present with my kids.
I'm hooked.
Sign me up.

Speaker 2 (30:17):
There you go.

Speaker 3 (30:18):
Yeah, so I'm doing that and I'm still bartending
and I'm still, you know,teaching snowboarding.
So it's like I'm like a jack ofall trades.
I kind of like to.
I have too much energy to justsit and do like one job or like
at an office sit at a desk LikeI got to go.

Speaker 2 (30:31):
So now you're at a conference for your company in
Texas.
Now the question is is did youbring your skateboard with you?

Speaker 3 (30:37):
Oh my God, I hit up two skate parks yesterday.
We were going and driving likewe were riding to the um, the
people were walking, making likecontent at the state building
and stuff, and I'm like, oh mygod, I'm skating.
So of course, yeah, I bring myskateboard everywhere.
I go every, any chance we go,like that's how we go.
We're like my husband or myfamily, like we're going on a
vacation all right, where's theskate park?
And like you kind of map it outand you go, we go around the

(30:58):
skate park and that's the signof a true skater.

Speaker 2 (31:01):
You always have your skates with you, just in case
dude, I skate, I skate throughthe airport.

Speaker 3 (31:05):
Yeah, on Thursday when I flew in, like I always I
have my carry on and I skatethrough the airport and it's so
funny, but like the only airportthat I got messed with was in
Hawaii.
That's, hawaii is the one ofthe places that are like you
can't skate in the airport.
I was like, okay, and then onThursday when I was skating, I
had my headphones in Right andall of a sudden I took one out
and I hear over the loudspeakeryou can't skateboard in the

(31:26):
terminal and I was like what?
I put my headphone back in.
I was like not me, you weren'ttalking to me, I didn't hear
anything.

Speaker 2 (31:32):
Okay, me and my girlfriend were actually talking
about this because at theaquarium out here I haven't been
yet, but they have one of thosemoving sidewalks.
Did you skate on that?
Did you make it go faster?

Speaker 3 (31:44):
I did before.
I Did you make it go faster.
I did before.
I did this last time.
But I'm part of a companycalled the Cleveland Misfits.
You got to look them up online.
It's like CLE and then theMisfits like the band and we're
like all ladies park through andthese girls are insane.
They do the rails, the jumps.
They're insane in the park andsnowboarding and last year about

(32:05):
I don't know, there was maybe15 or 20 of us I can't remember
how many came out last year, butwe all went to Colorado and we
hit up all of these differentresorts and there's a video of
me skateboarding on the actuallike escalator at the airport.
It's hilarious.

Speaker 2 (32:19):
Nice, yeah, cause I just thought about that.
I saw someone like skateboardsyou can do, but I think with me
and skating just the width of it, I wouldn't be able to get the
push like I would.

Speaker 3 (32:28):
Yeah Well, I don't want to get in trouble either.
Like to me, I feel like when Iskate at the airport, I just
slowly go as like a slowly walk.
You know what I mean.
Like I'm only skating as fastas everybody else is walking.

Speaker 2 (32:37):
But you're a misfit, so it's in the name.

Speaker 1 (32:49):
You can't say you're a misfit, but take our cautious
it just does not.

Speaker 2 (32:51):
It's a contradiction.
There we go.
That's the word I'm looking for, yeah.

Speaker 1 (32:55):
I try.

Speaker 2 (32:56):
But now like, what are your future plans with like
skateboarding and all that kindof stuff?
Is this going to be like?
Are you going to be like 90years old and using your walker
to make yourself go, go?

Speaker 3 (33:06):
I know I hope so.
Well, that's why it's funny.
Like I said, my husband wantsto, like he kind of surfs a
little bit more because it'sjust easier on your body.
I don't, honestly, I thinkskateboarding is the fountain of
youth.
It really is.
I mean, you see these guysskateboarding and they're like,
I mean 50s, 60s, they're stillskating and like.
That's why I like to ridebigger ramps.
The bigger the you know thebowl, the bigger the transition,

(33:27):
the easier it is to slide out.
So, like I don't know, I guessI would like to skate forever.
But you know, we'll see, I'mjust happy doing it.

Speaker 2 (33:37):
So now I know with Tony Hawk he's had several
concussions.
Have you had a concussion fromskating?

Speaker 3 (33:43):
Oh my God.
Multiple Absolutely A hundredpercent.
And it sucks because you nevercome back Like and that's why.
I wear my helmet every singletime I skate.
Um, I just literally I waslaughing.
I was like counting all myhelmets.
I have my skateboard helmet, Ihave my snowboard helmet, I have
my motorcycle helmet, like Ihave so many cause I protect my
brain arm.
You could break your hand andlike your appendages, you know

(34:03):
what I mean.
Like you can, you could heal onyour things your noggin that's
no joke, man.
And once you get a brainconcussion, like an injury,
you're not the same.
Like I remember early 2000s, Itook a snowboarding injury.
Um, I caught, I got a newsnowboard and my you know side
cut of my my rails, like it wasa different side cut so instead
of like sliding out and likedoing like that hockey, stop,

(34:25):
kind of skid out on yoursnowboard.
I caught my edge and it railedme and like I railed myself and
I smacked into a wooden fenceand I was out.
I was laying on the ground andI was literally paralyzed.
I couldn't move.
I was looking up and I couldsee the people looking down on
me and I'm like, oh, get up Jen,get up Jen.

(34:46):
And I couldn't move and it wasthe scariest thing ever and it
was back in the day.
I didn't have a helmet on at thetime because back in the day,
like snowboarding, you didn'twear helmets now Like everybody
does, which is great, causethose metal edges are no joke.
You know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (34:55):
And trees are no joke either.
They don't move.

Speaker 3 (34:58):
They're not forgiving at all.
Yeah, exactly yeah.
So I'm constantly yeah, butthis is what's good, is like the
water that I drink is actuallyhelps with the concussions.
It helps with so much, it helpswith so many things that I'm
like, oh my God, I can't believeit that this water is healing
people in crazy ways.

Speaker 2 (35:21):
So yes.

Speaker 3 (35:24):
Now, who is one of your biggest influences in
skating?
I like Lance Mountain, justbecause I like how silly he is.
Who else?
Let's see, I mean obviously thenormal, like everyday.
I'm trying to think A specificskateboarder.
It's hard to say.
I love Lizzie Armano right now.
To me she's just killing it.

(35:45):
She's doing so good.
And then amelia brutka, likeshe's.
I remember I I worked atwoodward skate camp back in the
day.
Do you know what woodward is?

Speaker 2 (35:53):
I don't okay.

Speaker 3 (35:55):
So, uh, woodward skate camp there's started in
pennsylvania and what it was wasa all girl or it was like a um,
gymnastic um, sorry, it was anI got gymnastics kind of a camp.
And then all of a sudden theywere like, well, hold on, we
could do like extreme sports.
So they started doing like bmxand skateboarding and
snowboarding and so like theyhave a place out in state

(36:16):
college, pennsylvania, and it'scalled woodward east.
And then now they openedanother one out west.
There's one in copper, there'sone in tahoe, and so basically
woodward, it's like a skate campor a.
You could go snowboarding, yougo inline skating, you can go
and do all these differentthings and these kids can go for
a week or however long and it'slike it's very expensive.
But I went to the camp for oneyear and then I actually taught

(36:37):
there for one year and I it wasback in the day let's see
Amelia's 30 now.
So I she was like 14 when I mether and so she was there as a
camper and I remember seeing herand I'm like, oh my God, this
little girl is got some desire,like she is pushing it, so like
I watched her since she was 14up until now she's 30, maybe one
now 32.
And so, like, just watching herevolve and watching she went to

(37:00):
the Olympics, this girl, sheliterally represented Poland in
theics just when theskateboarding was here.
So I'm like that's probablylike to me somebody that I I
look up to because I rememberbeing with her.
But then I was like, well, I'mgonna go have a family and I
didn't really want to continueto like you know better myself,
for, like I mean, she justliterally pushed the envelope to
like she's in the olympics,like she's doing it.

(37:21):
Yeah, so she definitely is likedefinitely a good inspiration
for me to see that she's in the.
Olympics, like she's doing it,yeah, so she definitely is like
definitely a good inspirationfor me to see that she's putting
in, then starting exposure andhaving all these girls follow
her and like look up to her,she's amazing.

Speaker 2 (37:33):
Nice.
And now the question that webrought that I said I was going
to ask you earlier what's yourtrucks, your bearings, your
wheels Like?
What do you prefer?

Speaker 3 (37:43):
Um, right now I have a black label deck and I've been
riding the same set of trucksfor 20 some years since I
started.
I've never, and they're,they're crux.
So I wear those and like Idon't know why, I like I just
never changed them, I justthat's.
I haven't like.
I guess maybe because I'm lightand I don't like grind as much.
I don't know.
Like I said, I don't do likethe street and the rails, like I

(38:05):
just like to pump around and Ijust like to flow, like I don't
I go for it.
I guess I always go for it, butI just kind of like I just have
fun cruising and like grindmaybe here and there, do like a
small air here and there, like Idon't really.
I guess I didn't really trashmy trucks.
And then, of course, like youknow, the reds, um bushings, I
mean the bushing and the bind,uh, the what do you call them?

Speaker 2 (38:27):
Bearings Thank you, that's the word.

Speaker 3 (38:29):
Yeah, I ride reds because they're the fastest, you
know.

Speaker 2 (38:32):
Okay, and then how many boards have you actually
gone through?

Speaker 3 (38:36):
Um, a lot, a lot, um, yeah, my, it's so funny.
I wish I had a picture of it,cause I literally was laughing
at my husband.
I'm like do we gotta?
He won't get rid of any of hisboards.
He's been riding for so manyyears.
He's got like probably 15stacks and stacks of decks and
I'm like, do you know how muchreal estate this shit takes up?
And like you can't tell him toget rid of his old boards.

(38:57):
Like that's just, you know whohe loves, every single one,
every single one's got like thatlittle chip that he's like I
remember that, I remember this,you know, and so each one is a
different page of his memories.
It is yeah, and so I get it.
You can't take that away fromhim.
But I'm like, hi, between, myhouse is so full of like he
loves vans.
My husband is great.
He could be addicted to a lotworse things, but he loves old

(39:18):
school vans.
We've got a 65 Chevy, a 77Dodge, an 88 Dodge and a 1994 by
Ford GMC.
It's great.
And then we own three, threeHarleys and so.
But it's like that's a lot ofstuff.
you know between theskateboarding stuff, the surfing
stuff, the snowboarding stuff.
That is a lot of gear.
It takes up so much space inour house.
So I mean I would love to likesay get rid of some things, but

(39:42):
they're cool things.
How do you say get rid of stuffthat's, you know, so cool?

Speaker 2 (39:46):
Exactly.
And then, when we start skating, we always start off with the
cheapest and then, as time goesand we get older, it just gets
more and more expensive for us.

Speaker 3 (39:54):
Yeah, yeah, it does.

Speaker 2 (39:57):
Now, what is your advice to, especially since
you're my first femaleskateboarder?
What is your advice to thewomen that listen to this, that
want to skateboard and want tocome up and skateboarding?

Speaker 3 (40:10):
Don't be hesitant, don't be scared.
Just because other guys aredoing it, they'll probably
support you.
Like, get out there.
Like if you put yourself outthere, I'm sure that there'll be
right there next to you, likeyou know, pushing you and
supporting you.
So don't be so hesitant.
And I guess it doesn't matterwhat you have, like if you have

(40:30):
the best skateboard, if you havethis, like, who cares?
Don't care what other peoplethink, like that's just to me.
My whole life I've always beenlike I don't care what you think
, I'm going to just have fun anddo it.
And that's what I want morepeople to think about.
Like don't, the person next toyou is not worrying about what
you know, what do you have?
They're worrying about what dopeople look?
You know they're looking at andtaking it like, oh, what is
what is everybody thinking of me?

(40:51):
Everyone's taking it to theirown personal way and I don't
think that it matters.
Like, just go have fun, besilly, be your silly self like.
Like, just dance and have agood time.
To me, people are so worriedabout whatever everybody else
thinks and just don't worryabout it.
Who cares?

Speaker 2 (41:07):
Exactly so.
I always say that too, becauseyou get out there and it's a
very expressive form too you getto express how you are, so
don't worry what other peoplethink.
No, it's your own expression,yeah, and the nice thing is is
we're just like one giant skatecommunity and I think I pull in
all forms together here.
Your own expression, yeah, andthe nice thing is is we're just

(41:27):
like one giant skate communityand I think I pull in all forms
together here.
But it's awesome Just to seethe support that we have for
each other, even the beginners,even at the roller rink on.
Friday nights and stuff.
That's great.
Now how can my listeners followyou and find out more about you
and your business, if theychoose to?

Speaker 3 (41:43):
Awesome, for sure, yeah.
So my Instagram is carvingthrough life, if they choose to.
Awesome, for sure, yeah.
So my Instagram is carvingthrough life.
And I I I had my old one wasJennifer Ann's journey, because
I was like it's a journey, right.
But my, my Facebook got hackedjust recently, literally with
like this last month, and I'mlike mother, son of a gun, so I,
um, I had to change my name andI'm like thinking of a name,

(42:03):
thinking of a name, and I'm likewhat am I doing?
And I was like, well, you knowwhat I'm actually?
I'm skateboarding, I'm surfing,I'm snowboarding, but I'm
trying to figure life out.
I'm trying to figure out how doI become a mom and how do I
juggle all of the things thatcome with being a mom trying to
work, trying to do everything.
So I came up with carvingthrough life.
Um, with all my boards that I'mdoing.

(42:25):
But I can also carve throughlife with just like trying to
just be living life and carvingthrough it.
You know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (42:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (42:33):
So that's where you'll find me on Instagram and
on Facebook, carving throughlife.
And then, um, I'm a distributorfor a company called a NADG and
I sell Kong and water.
It's K A N G E N, kongangenwater, and I actually sent you
my card.
So if you're welcome, you'rewelcome to post the picture
where it says green your home.
So if you're interested inhydrating yourself or if you're

(42:53):
interested in actually, you know, getting a business plan that
you can, actually it's what itis to me.
I was scared Cause I was like Idon't know anything about social
media.
I don't know anything about um,sorry, my battery's low.
I don't know anything aboutautomation.
I don't know, I don't.
I fought social media Like Ihated it at first, and so I'm

(43:14):
switching my mindset completelyaround because, to be honest
with you, um, if you change yourmindset, it changes everything.
Like I've been really working onme and my mindset and my
limiting beliefs on what'sworking, what's not working.
Well, this water is working.
So I've been really working onme and my mindset and my
limiting beliefs on what'sworking, what's not working.
Well, this water is working.
So I'm like if I can do abusiness and so, like, if people
are interested in actuallydoing something for themselves.
Being an entrepreneur, you'renot going to, you're not going

(43:38):
to advance.
Being a employee no offense.
Like you look and see like it'sentrepreneurs and it's
investors those are the peoplethat are making the money.
I don't want to work forsomebody else.
I don't want to do that anymore.
Like there's a better way.
I want to have financialfreedom, I want to have time
freedom, I want to have locationfreedom where I'm not stuck in
one area.
Like I want to be free to goskate and to go surf and to go

(43:59):
do stuff on my time, and havingautomation is going to do it for
me.
And I'm like, holy cow, this isamazing.
I just I still can't believethat.
I found it.
Like I'm just like blown awaythat it's actually.
Like it's real, it's not just apyramid scheme.
People are like, oh, this isbullshit, it's a pyramid scheme.
It's like, no, the pyramidscheme is working for a CEO.
And actually there's that's thepyramid scheme is going nine to

(44:20):
five work.

Speaker 1 (44:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (44:21):
I think that's my opinion.
So, yeah, you can follow me oninstagram, um, you could do your
research.
I want you to know, I wantthese people to research, what's
erw, what's electrolyzedreduced water, like?
How is it good for you, what isit helping with, how does it
hydrate you?
Um, and, in addition todrinking it, like I said, the
benefits that come along with itwith the cleaning and greening.
You know, just being green, Idon't want chemicals in my house

(44:44):
.

Speaker 2 (44:45):
Yeah, exactly, my roommate's very much the same
way.

Speaker 3 (44:49):
Oh yeah, nice.

Speaker 2 (44:51):
Well, I appreciate you coming on the show.
Yay Thank you for having me andI look forward to seeing your
future endeavors.

Speaker 3 (44:58):
Yeah, thank you so much.
Have a good day, you guys besafe out there about there.
Thank you, thank you.
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