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From his earliest days as a self-proclaimed "rink rat" in Tennessee's Old Dixie skating rink to his current role as co-founder of Lone Star Skate Designs, Jamie's story traces the full spectrum of skating culture evolution. His narrative weaves through competitive speed skating teams, the community camaraderie of jam skating in the 80s and 90s, and the periods when life's struggles pulled him away from the rink. With remarkable candor, Jamie shares his battles with addiction, celebrating over a decade of sobriety while reconnecting with the skating community that always felt like home.

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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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(00:30):
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into the world of skating.

Speaker 2 (00:41):
Welcome to this week's episode of how Do you
Skate.
I am your host, sean Egan, andmy guest this week is Jamie Ogle
, out of Texas.
How are you doing today, sir?

Speaker 3 (00:51):
Man, I couldn't be any better.

Speaker 2 (00:53):
That's awesome.
So now I always like to startat the beginning.
So when was the start of yourskating, like how old were you,
and kind of walk us through theearly days a little bitty guy.

Speaker 3 (01:06):
I was a little bitty guy, probably four or five years
old, um, I grew up in leonardcity, tennessee is where I grew
up at, and uh, uh, actually, oneof my babysitters, uh, took me
with them when I was real young,uh, and I went to the skating
rink and I just fell in lovewith it.

(01:27):
It was called old Dixie skatingrink in Lenore city, tennessee.
And once I got a little oldereight, nine years old, and and
you get in there and it's alldark and the lights are going,
man, the music's playingeverybody.
It's like disco man, you know,and I, I got the fever.
You know the next disco man,you know, and I, I got the fever
.
You know the next thing, youknow, I'm getting skates for

(01:47):
christmas, and that was it.
I was a rink rat, I, I would bethe first one to get to the
rink, uh, spend the night inthere if they'd let me, you know
.
I mean really that's the way itwas oh, I'm not arguing with
you.
I don't disagree with you onthat one and you know, I kind of

(02:08):
got adopted by everybody thatworked, you know, and owned the
rinks and and I was a regularrink rat.
You know I'll end up working ina snack bar and a skate, a
skate counter and uh, you know,this was in uh, west knoxville.
Then old Dixie closed down andI want to say probably early
eighties, 85, 86, 87, somethinglike that.

(02:32):
So there was nowhere to skate,so we went to skate town, usa
and Knoxville, west Knoxville.
They actually had three at thetime.
Uh, skate town Number one wasin West Knoxville, skate town
number one was in west knoxville.
Skate town number two was infountain city, off of broadway
and skate town.
Number three is which is nowroll arena and maryville.

(02:54):
Okay, uh, and that's a big,everybody loves to go to roll
arena and maryville and that waskind of the worst rank out of
the three when that wasoperating a skate town.
Yeah.
But I mean, you know, all theway up till probably mid to late
twenties.
I mean we skated on the speedteam.

(03:16):
We went, you know, overnightsto skating meets.
We would go to Tennesseeia andall these different states.
Man, you know, traveling speedskating and it was cool, just
the camaraderie.
You know, I wasn't the fastest,you know yeah uh, but the

(03:40):
camaraderie, the sport of youknow, just the act of speed
skating was cool and you knowyou go when you're at a speed
skating meet, you go to thenight sessions and that's when
you show off your, your, your,your.
Jam skating that's what it usedto be called back in the day
when I was shuffle, shuffleskating, it was called jam

(04:03):
skating.
Back where I was from, you know, we had a jam skate team and,
uh, you know we would go to allthe local rinks and battle
everybody and find the bestskaters, and you know it was fun
.
And then, you know, lifehappened.
This could got disconnectedfrom the skating, you know.
And uh, uh, I got back into ita little bit back in 06, 07, 08,

(04:29):
something like that.
I bought some skates, wentskating a few times, but I've
been back into it hard and heavyfor about two, two and a half
years now nice.

Speaker 2 (04:39):
Well, the nice thing about growing up and doing
skating and as involved as youwere and as I was back then nice
thing about growing up anddoing skating and as involved as
you were in as I was back thenit's kind of like we could have
gone so many differentdirections as far as like we
could have ended up because itsounds like we're pretty close
to the same age so you had, likethe stoners and the preppies
and all that kind of stuff.
We could have ended up in anyone of those other groups and

(04:59):
gone down a different path, butskating always seemed to keep us
out of trouble.

Speaker 3 (05:04):
So absolutely it kept me out of the lot, but I still
got into more, you know.
I mean you can't be at the rink24 seven.
Yeah.
And you know where I was fromwas a small town.
So you know, we all got intoour mischief and, uh, you know,
and I and I kind of got a storylike kind of like Corey Cooper
does you know, and I kind of gota story like kind of like Corey

(05:25):
Cooper does you know I got intodrugs and alcohol and the clubs
and all that stuff in my.
You know my earlier days.
You know I got in a lot oftrouble.
Yeah, not proud of it, but I'mglad I learned that.
Not proud of it, but I'm glad Ilearned that.
You know, since I've had mykids and everything else like

(05:47):
that, I've been no trouble, noteven pulled over, nothing Like
straight and narrow since 2009is when I got out of a drug and
alcohol facility.

Speaker 2 (06:03):
Well, congratulations on your sobriety.
Thank you, sir.
I know it's a difficult road.
I mean I've never I got luckycause I never got involved in it
.
So I've always and people findit hard to believe that I've
never tried drugs, I've nevertried smoking, I've never tried.
So I got a lot of slack forthat.
They're called a liar, a lot.
But I mean it's just the way Iwas so.

Speaker 3 (06:25):
but yeah, and you know it's the way you were
raised.
You know it's like, uh, youknow, I had a lot of freedom as
a kid, as a young young adult.
I had a lot of freedom, yeah,you know, and I hung out with a
lot of stoners, man, you know.
Uh, you go to the skating rinkin the 80s and 90s, man, you're

(06:48):
hanging around stoners, justlike today, man.
Yeah.
They're still out there, bro.

Speaker 2 (06:55):
Well, my roller rink because I grew up in the Bay
Area in California the rollerrink that I went to we didn't
really have stoners because itwasn't cool back then.
So did you ever do a lot ofskating outside at all?
I?

Speaker 3 (07:09):
have we, we, we did skate a lot of outdoors too
especially when we were training, uh uh, speed skating.
Okay, me and my buddies I meanwe we skated all over Knoxville
man.

Speaker 2 (07:21):
Nice.

Speaker 3 (07:22):
I mean sometimes, uh, me and Larry Jenny is is a
buddy of mine growing up Uh, weused to put our skates on and
skate to the skating rink.
I mean, that's the type, thetype dudes we were.
We just we didn't care.
We, we put our, put our shoesin our backpack, put our outdoor
wheels on and we went torolling.
We didn on and we went torolling, we didn't care.

(07:48):
Uh, now I try to skate outdooras much as possible, uh, because
I'm actually testing someoutdoor wheels for ron murray
right now nice and I've.
I've got a quite a quite a fewmiles on them, but I don't skate
it outdoor as much as I like, Ineed to just keep the skates,
my skates, in my truck.
So I'm not doing anything.
I go, find me a parking lot ora tennis court and get out and

(08:10):
skate, but um, I don't have anyoutdoor wheels for my von merlin
jet, so I'm gonna try to getsome for them, but and there's
the key word.
Yet yeah, well, procrastinatingman, you know.
Uh, I got outdoor wheels.
It's just, I've been got a lotgoing on here lately so I

(08:30):
haven't really had time tochange them out yeah, adulting
does suck, yeah, beingresponsible does kind of suck
sometimes I know.

Speaker 2 (08:40):
So you got to pay a bill before you get new wheels.

Speaker 3 (08:43):
I'm like but I know what you mean.

Speaker 2 (08:46):
So when we were younger and I'm just curious to
know if you did this too uh like, we had Taco Bell, that was,
the drive-thru was open 24 hours.
A lot of the drive-thrus wereopen 24 hours, but the main part
wasn't now.
Did you ever skate through thedrive-thru to order food?

Speaker 3 (09:01):
Absolutely, we've done it at Crystal's.
Crystal's is a little burgerjoint, little square burgers
like White Castle's.
Everybody says they're justlike White Castle's.
They're not even close.
I'm just comparing them to them.
They're the same shape.
They don't taste anything alike, but they're the same shape
Little square, little miniburgers.

(09:22):
Little slider-looking things.
Which one's better?

Speaker 2 (09:25):
Crystals or.

Speaker 3 (09:27):
White Castle Crystals .
Crystals hands down.
Okay.
I mean, that's where I wasraised in Tennessee, man.
So that was, crystals is a bigthing, man, Hardee's crystals.

Speaker 2 (09:40):
And I was raised in California where we have
In-N-Out, and now I'm inColorado and people freak out
about in and out and I'm likeit's really not all that,
especially when you have it allthe time when you're in
California.
Now they're just starting toget them out here.

Speaker 3 (09:53):
So I'm like okay if you guys say so, you up there
with Daniel.
You go up there and skate withDaniel at all.

Speaker 2 (09:59):
Daniel.

Speaker 1 (10:01):
Carlson.

Speaker 2 (10:02):
I have been.
I have been at the rink withhim a couple of times, but I
don't think he knows me thatwell, yeah, so I do see him.

Speaker 3 (10:09):
That's my buddy man.

Speaker 2 (10:11):
Yeah, yeah, I do see him, because usually I'll see
him at Arvada, west Skate Cityand my basically home rink is
Westminster, and then with thespeed skating we do a lot of
outdoors.
I'm going to be doing a lot ofoutdoors here soon, after snow
next weekend.
But so now, what was like whenyou got back into it, like 2006,

(10:35):
.
You dabbled in it Was?
Was it just not there, or?

Speaker 3 (10:39):
Wasn't Um, where I was skating at around here and
austin, and uh, I was working inaustin and actually uh started
piecing together some skates.
uh, and I've been back and forthfrom tennessee to houston my
whole life my, my dad's beenhere since 79, so I've been back

(11:02):
and forth, back and forth, um,and I speed skated at a at a
skating rink, uh, in springtexas.
It's called champions rollerworld.
Um, and I grew up with chadhedrick, which is one of the
fastest men on the planet.
Uh, he won, he won gold medalin the Olympics.
Okay For ice skating, speedskating.

Speaker 2 (11:26):
Nice.

Speaker 3 (11:27):
He won everything indoor, outdoor, in lines.
He was there with Derek Downing, the paras, all them dudes, Any
fast guys you can think of.
He skated with them, yeah, andhe was very fast, uh.
But back then I was looking forsome skate parts and stuff.

(11:52):
I was actually looking for apro line, because that's what I
grew up skating on was a labetapro line okay, I couldn't find
any.
At the time.
I was like, what, what's goingon?
What happened?
Because I, I mean, I, I didwhat I'd normally do is call
southeastern or or, uh, call mylocal rink, be like, hey, I need
some pro lines.
They're like, oh, no, we can'tget those.
I'm like, what do you mean?

(12:12):
So I went and talked to paulhedrick, who owns champions
roller world in spring, texas,and I'm like, hey, man, I need a
pro line.
He's like, uh, they don't make,they're not making them right
now.
And I'm like, okay, well,what's my options?
So this was in 2006, 2007 Ibelieve and he's like, well, I
have this plate called a rollline, a roll line driver.

(12:35):
And I was like, okay, cool, itwas nice and shiny like a pro
line.
Uh, you know, uh, the structurelooked like it.
Uh, it had some cool bluetrucks on it with with gold axle
nuts and and gold cushion cupsand stuff.
It looked really cool.
And when he, when he gave methe price of it, I was like, wow

(12:56):
, it's pretty cheap.
And he was like, yeah, it's agood plate.
It's like it was a new companyback then.
Yeah, roll on is a big companynow, but back then nobody really
knew about roll line, but I gotone of those, put it on a nine
11, uh, got me some blue witchdoctors and I went to skating,
um, and it was dead.

(13:18):
It was like dead, uh.
And then, I guess two and abouttwo and a half years ago, I've
been skating solid for about twoand a half years, so I started
piecing together another skate,uh, and I found a pro line and I
guess you could only get itthrough one person and that was

(13:39):
michael elsberry.
Okay, uh, so I ordered a proline and I, you know, I got this
same boot.
I've had this same boot for twoand a half years now.
Nice, it's changed colors overthe years, but, uh, it's been
the same boot and uh, it wasn'treally, it wasn't really, uh,

(14:01):
getting big here.
I just wanted to start skatingagain, you know, yeah, and we
started going to our local rinksand then I found out about, uh,
I found out about some eventsand I went to, uh, memorial day,
florida event a couple yearsago and wow, yeah I was I was

(14:22):
blown away.
That's what started this wholething.
We got going on.
We started seeing people withglowy shirts and whatever else.
My wife had been making me justregular shirts.
She made me a Rydell shirtbefore I even went to those

(14:43):
events just a regular Rydellshirt and we started doing our
research, started gettingglow-in-the-dark stuff and puffy
stuff and I mean, if I turn thelights off right now, this is
what you would see as a skatefan of Texas is what you would
see, because that's what we wantto do.

(15:05):
Uh, we want, we want the mostloud, most obnoxious uh, skate
shirts you could get, cause Iknow you got one.
Yeah, you, you know howobnoxious it is when you turn
the lights off.
Oh, absolutely.

Speaker 2 (15:21):
People know how obnoxious I am when I don't have
the light with a shirt on, soyeah, yeah, that's what I mean.

Speaker 3 (15:27):
I mean I, I I'm boisterous, I'm loud, I'm, I'm,
I'm friendly, you know, uh, yousee me coming from a mile away.
Uh, I mean I, I got my name onmy hat, I got my name on my.
You know, I, that's just,that's just.
You know, I'm not trying to befamous, I'm not trying to be

(15:48):
somebody, I'm not.
This is how I've been my wholelife yeah you know, uh, I'm just
trying to cater to the skatingcommunity and people who want to
show themselves.
You know, to be themselves, youknow to to have something
flashy and cool, and, uh, youknow, and to be themselves, you
know to to have something flashyand cool, and, uh, you know,
and they're not cheap.

(16:09):
I'm like they're.
They're not cheap.
Our shirts are not cheap, butthey're one of a kind custom
hand laid.

Speaker 2 (16:17):
You know, I think I paid 35 for mine.

Speaker 3 (16:22):
You know we've got some upwards.
I don't know if you do.
You know LW shack.

Speaker 2 (16:31):
I don't know Like I know, Go ahead.

Speaker 3 (16:34):
Him a bant hoodie, okay, and gave it to him at
Abilene.
Man, that is this the nicesthoodie I've ever made in my
entire life.
It is gorgeous man, if you everget a chance to look him up.
Uh, that, that hoodie isgorgeous man.

Speaker 2 (16:54):
I definitely will the only thing I don't like.
I actually have bont boots formy speed skates.
I love bont boots, but as faras quad skates, they don't make
a quad skate boot my size.
What do you mean?
I weigh your size 13, and everytime.

Speaker 3 (17:13):
I'm looking them up even on the Bond site.

Speaker 2 (17:15):
It goes up to 12.

Speaker 3 (17:16):
Oh, there, it is right here.

Speaker 2 (17:16):
Oh, I like that yeah, Multicolor nice.

Speaker 3 (17:18):
I'll wear a 14, sean.
Okay, yeah, that's.
See, that's's awesome but I'llwear a 14 and a work boot, okay,
okay, okay.
So I'm gonna give you a littlelittle, uh, little history and a
little education on bond, okay,uh, and I wear this is a 13,

(17:40):
okay, that's a 13, and my vonmerlins are a 13, okay, uh, that
is actually too big, my 951.
I should have got a 12 and ahalf okay I wear an 11 and a
half wide and bont Okay, theymake all the way up to a 13 or a

(18:03):
14 in US size.
Okay, and I think, I want to sayit's a 46 or a 47, but I wear
11 1⁄2 wide and a bont Okay, sodon't be discouraged.
If you want to get a bont boot,All you got to do is give me

(18:24):
your your foot measurement from.
If you don't know how tomeasure your foot properly for a
skate, you take your uhmeasuring tape, put your foot
against the wall, put yourmeasuring tape against the wall,
step on top of the tape.
Yeah, your big toe lands.

Speaker 2 (18:41):
That's your measurement, yeah and that's
what you give somebody to uhsize you yeah, for my inlines,
because I have my inline speedskates and my ice speed skates.
I got the 13s and they're fine.
It was just trying to find thesize 13 in the quad skate so I

(19:01):
know right, l's got some goodones.
I'll have to do some moreresearch then, or at least reach
out to them.

Speaker 3 (19:07):
Yeah, I I I'm not a bont guy because I I they're not
comfortable for me yeah um, Ijust I like the, I like the
right l's man.
I I'm just a right l guy um Ilike right l's also so and
they're just comfortable.

Speaker 2 (19:25):
So now, when the thing was dead, like when you
were talking about back in like2006, when you were starting to
get back into it, um, and thenwe had the pandemic, did you
kind of see a resurgence ofpeople starting to really skate
during the pandemic?
Cause I know in California wedid.
I actually saw a lot of more.

Speaker 3 (19:46):
Uh, people buying skate stuff.
Yeah, I don't know if it wasmuch after the pandemic.
I guess people just got stircrazy and wanted to go do
something.
So they're like, hey, let'sjust go to the skating rink or
something.
You know I I don't know, Idon't know how it it got
circulated back up.
I know Florida never let upFlorida people.

(20:09):
They were skating this wholetime.

Speaker 2 (20:12):
Nice.

Speaker 3 (20:13):
But it never came our way.
Okay.
When I started going back to theskating rinks, you know there
was a lot of kids, a lot ofbirthday parties and stuff.
That's how the skating rinksurvives because our local rink

(20:33):
here we got really, really closeto the owners and we kind of
know and I've been around a rinkowners my whole life so I kind
of know how a rink operates.
You know they don't make moneyoff of, off of regulars or
general session skaters.
They make their money off ofparties, uh, private parties,

(20:54):
and you know people renting therink out.
They don't make it, they don'tmake money off general session
stuff.
Yeah, they'll tell you straightup, we, you regulars, we don't
make any money off of.
But you know, we got a crewtogether.
We started shuffle skating hereat our local rink.
A lot of people started comingand our crew started going to

(21:17):
different skating events and ourcrew started getting bigger and
bigger and our members startedgetting up and my buddy, larry,
he's in tennessee and he waslike, hey, man, how do I start a
crew?
And I was like, hey, man, justopen, you come up with this,
come up with the crew name andjust start offering some shirts

(21:40):
to people there you go when hewas like well, make me a shirt.
So I made him a shirt.
We came up with the name and Idon't know if you ever heard of
the boondock skate crew, but Ihaven't.
That was it, uh, and it it wasprobably, I would say, up to 200
members at one time oh wow,that's a big crew it was big.
It was big and, uh, it justkind of dwindled away.

(22:02):
I don't, I don't know.
You know the ins and outs ofthat.
Uh you know people change intheir life and you know, I don't
know exactly what happened, butstill, everybody still skates
together, regardless.
You know when we go to theevents, everybody's still still
the same group, still the samepeople.

(22:24):
You know they're at every eventthat we go to and I mean it's
it's like a big family man.
Uh, you ever get an opportunityto come to any of these events.
You ought to come to the one inmay at at uh in castle.

Speaker 2 (22:39):
I actually have my first race for the roller blade
series at the end of may, andthen this month we actually
starting in April.
We have Mile High rolling outhere, yeah.

Speaker 3 (22:52):
I'll be there.
We make the shirts for that.

Speaker 2 (22:54):
Okay, were you out here for the shuffle skate at
Skate City.

Speaker 3 (22:58):
All two.

Speaker 2 (22:59):
Or not Skate City, Roller City.
Both of them.

Speaker 3 (23:02):
Yeah, we went to Roller City and then we went to
roller city and then we went touh, so you guys made my shirt
absolutely that's funny.

Speaker 2 (23:10):
I was like, I was like trying to think, I was like
are they the ones that made theshirt?
So yeah, yes, sir, skatedesigns, that's us yeah, so I I
actually am wearing the shirtright now, actually with the,
with the two on the front there.

Speaker 3 (23:23):
There it is.
Yes sir, I pressed all thatvinyl on it myself.
Yes, sir.

Speaker 2 (23:29):
So yeah, usually when I wear it up to Skate City up
here because we have a lot ofpeople doing the artistic
skating and the jam skating, sowhen I wear this I kind of like
stick out like a sore thumb,because I think somewhere on it
says Roller City, doesn't it?

Speaker 3 (23:42):
It does.

Speaker 2 (23:43):
Yeah, they're like you're wearing a Roller City
shirt to Skate City.

Speaker 3 (23:49):
I'm like skating is skating and it has.
What's the other skating rink?
Wood Wagon wheel.

Speaker 2 (23:58):
Yeah, the wagon wheel yeah.

Speaker 3 (24:00):
I love that place.
That place is awesome dude.

Speaker 2 (24:04):
It is.
It's a fun little place.
You, I think there's skated it.
Oh, absolutely I've been.
The only ones I haven't skatedis Aurora, and I haven't been
down to like Trinidad or um anyof the Colorado Springs rinks
yet.

Speaker 3 (24:19):
So yeah, yeah, when Daniel started this event.
Uh, he, definitely, he chose usto make the event shirts.
So Daniel started this event.
Uh, he, definitely, he chose usto make the event shirts.
So the first event shirt uh, wemade.
And then the second event andnumber three will be us again
here, so we'll be up there againthis year for that.
Um, you know, we're friendswith Kiki and all the people who

(24:40):
run roller city and it's, it'sjust surreal, man, when you get
up there and and those mountains, man it, it's.
It's just surreal, man, whenyou get up there and and those
mountains, man, it's, it's justa different, it's just a
different setting you know, oh,I love it here you know, let's
go to daytona and skate, youknow well, let's go to colorado,
where it's you can't breatheand it's 20 below.

Speaker 2 (25:01):
Let's go there, you know that's what I like about it
.
That's the like with the speedskating and training up here.
When I start doing my races inmay, it's going to be awesome
just because of the fact thatI'm going to have better
endurance than everybody else ohyeah, you're going to have the
ones that aren't funny exactlyso and I'm like looking forward

(25:22):
to going back and visiting mymom in california and just
bringing my skates and skatingthe trails out there and just
seeing how it is and hitting myold roller rink.
I haven't been there probablyin about 15, 20 years, not since
my kids were younger but lookforward to doing that and stuff.
Now you've been sober since2009 right, that's when you your

(25:46):
last um my sober date is uhjune the, uh july 12 2007.
Okay, so that's, that's when Iwent into the facility and then
after that and like before youwent in, that's when you started
to get try to get back intoskating back then yeah, yeah,
you know, uh, before I went in,uh, I was out there, man, yeah

(26:12):
you know, and I bought someskates because I was making real
good money.

Speaker 3 (26:15):
I was traveling, um, I was on the road making good
money, um, so I just startedpiecing some skates together.
You know, I found a pair ofskates at the pawn shop, uh,
that had a really crappy plateon it.
That's when I went and boughtthat other plate and plate, you
know, and I figured, hey, when Iwas out traveling, I was just,

(26:36):
you know, once I'm done withwork, you know, give me a bite
to eat and I'll go to theskating rink and check it out,
you know yeah and I did that fora while, but it wasn't.
It wasn't nothing, you know,solid.
I didn't have like a pattern orI wasn't spending a lot of time
doing it but okay yeah, youknow, the last two and a half

(26:57):
years there's not been probablyany week that I haven't missed
skating yeah I, I, I.

Speaker 2 (27:04):
I had a week where I did oh no, I didn't.
Nevermind, I'll tell you afterwe're done what happened.
And I still didn't miss it.
I didn't miss skating that weekeither.
Um, so was it rough after yougot out to at first to try to
keep that sobriety, or you knowat first.

Speaker 3 (27:24):
You know at first.
You know the first.
I would say six months isprobably the toughest.
Uh, you know, because the first, the first year and a half in
there, you really didn't have.
You had opportunities but notreally you know, you weren't out
there.

(27:44):
I wasn't out there like and dowhat I want to do.
It was, uh, uh.
It's a behavior modificationprogram and you, you work, you
had a job and you work for yoursobriety.
You know, and, uh, there arecertain criteria you have to
meet to be able to graduate fromthe program, which is a place

(28:06):
to live on your own, a full-timejob, at least $6,000 in the
bank.
You know you had to have those.
You had to meet those criteriais to get out in a car in your
name.
Yeah, you had to have all that.
So when I got out of there, Imean I had a bunch of money in
the bank.
Uh, I could have went and didwhatever I wanted to do.

(28:30):
You know, uh, once I got out, Ihad a few drinks here and there,
but nothing, nothing, but I, Ihaven't had any.
I haven't had anything to drinklike alcohol.
Wow, 2010, probably okay, um,except for this one time.

(28:51):
Uh, me and my buddy went up tosan antonio to skate, uh, with
tj dubay.
Uh, we went up there to skatewith him and rebecca speedy
rella, and, uh, we went intothis little pizza bar thing and
we ordered a pizza and I ordereda Sprite and he ordered a drink
and I was thirsty and I chuggedthis thing down.

(29:13):
Dude, it was vodka man.

Speaker 2 (29:16):
Me and vodka are not friends.

Speaker 3 (29:18):
It was pretty hot man .

Speaker 2 (29:20):
Yeah, so, but for the most part, like after that,
after you got out, did you skatelike intermittently, or was it
just kind of like a break untiltwo and a half years ago.

Speaker 3 (29:33):
Yeah, it was.
It was pretty much.
I met my wife in 2010.
Okay.
And you know, we got togetherand then, a little over a year
later, we had our first kid, andthen it was.
You know, life struggles, justtrying to keep a job, just
trying to keep a roof over theirhead, food in their mouth,

(29:57):
clothes on their back, you know,for the first two or three
years, you know.
And then my son came after that.
So two, two kids and diapers atthe same time is pretty tough,
bro.
I'm just gonna say it's prettytough, but you're preaching to
the choir we made it through.

(30:18):
You know, they're 13 and 11 now.
Uh, both, both of them skate,okay.
My son, uh, rides motor cross,which is dirt bikes right there,
nice, yeah.

Speaker 2 (30:32):
Now are they following in your footsteps with
the shuffle skating or are theykind of going their own
direction with their own sportand skating?
I just let them do what theywant to do.

Speaker 3 (30:42):
Okay, you know I, I wasn't ever pressured into
shuffle skating.
I wasn't ever pressured into acertain style or what kind of
thing that I would.
They just let me do my thing.
You know my, my grandparentsand parents just let me do what
I wanted to do.
So, whatever they want to do,I'm going to support them.
How they want to skate, I'llsupport them.

(31:04):
If they want me to help them dothings, I'll help them.
you know, uh, but they need tolearn uh from other people as
well, you know, because that'sthat.
That's that's how I learned too.
I learned from other people andand now I I try to help as much

(31:25):
, help people as much as I can.

Speaker 2 (31:27):
Nice.

Speaker 3 (31:28):
You know, I mean, I'm not the greatest of skaters
either, but you know, but I do.

Speaker 2 (31:36):
Okay, you're better than you were yesterday.
Yeah, so I mean, like thereally only competition that I
see us ever having, even with mebeing a speed skater, is
ourselves.
I'm like at 53, I'm not goingout there trying to win anything
.
I'm going out there toaccomplish it because I can

(32:00):
definitely slower than I was.

Speaker 3 (32:02):
Yeah, you know, when I was 18, 19 years old, I'm not
going to say I was fast, but Ican hold my own.
And you know, I wasn't evergood at long distance.
I was always good at three toseven laps.
Okay, cause on the start, uh, Iwas a killer on the start, man.

(32:22):
I don't know why I would beatalmost 90% of the people off
start to the first cone everytime.
I don't know why that is, but Idid.
I don't know Even adults.
When I was a kid I was beatingthem to the first cone.
But then, of course, skinny,long-legged dudes would just

(32:44):
outrun me, because I've alwaysbeen a big guy.
I mean, I'm six, three, I'm, youknow, pushing 295 right now
yeah uh, but I still skate threedays a week, you know, and I
can get out there, I I don't getout there and just shuffle
skate 24, 7 uh, because I liketo do.

(33:05):
I like to do middle work andtoe work and, and you know slow
stuff as well too.
I'm.
I'm not just all a speed skateranymore like I used to be.

Speaker 2 (33:16):
I like to do a little fancy stuff and it's funny
because it's like I always tellpeople, especially like I worked
out with my girlfriend in thegym today.
And it's funny because it'slike I always tell people,
especially like I worked outwith my girlfriend in the gym
today.
And it's like people seem toalways go for all the fancy
machines and I use the machinesbecause I have a different
reason, like I said.
I'll tell you after, but it'slike just going back to the

(33:37):
basics, it's like if you don'thave the basics down, there's
like no point.
Have the basics down, there'slike no point.
I'm not gonna go like put on athing of skates and then go try
a triple axle if I've never doneit before, because you know I
don't have the basics down, Idon't have the balance, I don't
know how to glide, I don't knowhow to use the edges.
So until you get all that downand figure out how to skate
backwards, and it's just.

(33:58):
It's just the basics.
And I think so many people,especially nowadays, nowadays
with technology, everybody wantssomething quick.

Speaker 3 (34:07):
Oh, I know my customers, man, just because
they see all these nice bootsand nice plates and nice wheels
and this and that, and I'm like,look man, let's just get you
skating good first.
Yeah, look man, let's just getyou skating good first.
Yeah, you know, let's get youin something that's not a 20

(34:29):
degree kingpin angle, let's getyou something that's five to
seven degrees, so that you canget your feet under you, get
your legs under you first, andget comfortable out there on the
floor and then we can progressyou along to a more aggressive,
a more articulating plate.
You know, you just got to getused to it.
You know, because if I put youon that from the get go, you're

(34:54):
going to fall on your face.
Yeah, I'm just going to tellyou, I don't care how long
you've been skating, if you geton something like that and
don't't know what you're doing,you're going to the floor yeah,
that's what I like.

Speaker 2 (35:11):
I like that, I like what you have back there.

Speaker 3 (35:15):
So I'm the one that likes to go fast that's a a
power down, arius, it's a 45degree angle plate.
Okay, these, these are VonMerlin, these are Von Merlin's.
They're all carbon fiber, okay.

Speaker 2 (35:32):
Nice.

Speaker 3 (35:33):
You know, dance style , JB style boot and man, I
didn't think that I was going tolike them, Sean, but I do.

Speaker 2 (35:50):
Nice.
So now, when someone comes toyou about making them a skate
because I mean, that's likealways the thing people always
ask me it's kind of like youknow what kind of skate do I get
?
And I'm like I don't know.
And they're like, well, whydon't you know?
And I'm like what do you wantto do with skating?
What is your goal?
Because first of all, you gotto know how they want to skate
and their style.
Let's say, I come to you and Iwant to be like Estrogen from

(36:15):
Moxie and I want to ride ramps.

Speaker 3 (36:24):
How would you build that skate Bearings wheels?
I would probably start them outwith a like a park star, uh,
something affordable, you know,to make sure that it's it's
stable and it's something that'sgoing to last a little while
and not going to break the bank.
Yeah, you know you can getthose expensive.
Uh, you know antique boots anduh, all these different plates

(36:47):
and slide blocks and all thatstuff.
I'm not a park skater but I'veseen them.
Uh, my wife, my wife actuallyjust got out of, uh, a bond park
skate, which is this one.

Speaker 2 (37:01):
Oh, that's nice.

Speaker 3 (37:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (37:03):
That looks clean.

Speaker 3 (37:05):
Yes, she's skating, uh, moxie now, okay, no, no,
she's skating a moxie, uh,actually a moxie ice boot now
with it's got shearling and allthat stuff.
So it's it's.
It's pretty nice.
I you know she's been upgraded.
Uh, I got those for her first,um, and the bont boots were

(37:29):
killing her feet, so she movedover to the moxie and the moxie
is more comfortable for, okay,so what kind of bearings do you
like to use, because I know, forbearings play a huge part.

Speaker 2 (37:46):
Do you see that?
Are those tornado bearings?
Yes, sir.

Speaker 3 (37:50):
Nice 1,000%.
Anything that I run, brother,is tornado skate bearings.
Okay.
I'm actually.
I sell bearings for Todd.
Okay, cool.

Speaker 1 (38:03):
Tornado bearings I sell bearings for Todd.

Speaker 3 (38:05):
Okay, cool.
So if you need any bearings ata better price, hit me up
brother, definitely Do they makethem for end lines too.

Speaker 2 (38:12):
Do they have ceramics ?

Speaker 3 (38:13):
Oh yeah, oh yeah, all mine are ceramics, every one of
them.

Speaker 2 (38:22):
Yeah, that's why it's like, because I regularly
maintain mine too.
I'm experimenting withdifferent, experimenting with
different, like as far as thelubricants go.
But monkey lube actually cleansthe bearings and it actually
lubricates the bearings.
I just kind of like to add thelittle extra.
So it's just trying to figureout which lubricant works best
for speed.

Speaker 3 (38:37):
Here's here's the best lubricant you can buy on
the planet.
I will show it to you.

Speaker 2 (38:46):
Is it going to be bone speed cream?
No, sir.

Speaker 3 (38:51):
The best in the world ?
Is it the Bont?

Speaker 2 (38:55):
Bont crank.
That's actually the one I'mordering for this time around to
see how it works.
That's it.

Speaker 3 (39:01):
Nice, if you buy it, go get you one of these.
Where is it?
Okay, it is a.
I don't think I have one inhere.
Where is my oil?
It's back there somewhere.

(39:23):
It's back there somewhere.
Um, you want to get you.
Uh, you want to get a needledropper?
Okay, uh, if you go to like,you can go to google and google
in lose a real oil.
Yeah, lews lose real oil.

(39:43):
Yeah, l-e-w-s Lose Real Oil.
They're like six bucks.
Okay, I take it and I put theoil in another container and I
pour my crank into it.
Okay, I actually have twobottles of crank that Alexander
gave me a long time ago whenthey first came out.
He gave me two bottles, nice,to test out.
But on ceramic bearings, I onlyput, maybe, uh, on my minis, I

(40:10):
just, I just wet one ball,that's it.
Okay, uh, on my uh f3s, I, I, Iput one drop on one ball,
that's it uh and they're ceramichybrids.
Um, it's his f3 series.
They're affordable, they're 100bucks, uh and, and they're

(40:31):
phenomenal.
You'll never out skate them, Ipromise you.
I've been using his bearingsfor over two and a half years
now.
It's the first set of bearingsI ever got and I've skated
everything.
I've skated Bone Swiss, boneSwiss Ceramics, labeta, speed
Bearings, fafners Now Fafner 8Balls hey man, that's a good

(40:52):
bearing.
Now, bone Swiss Ceramic it's agood bearing.
Now bone swiss ceramic it's agood bearing, but is it worth?
325 I don't know, I don't know.
I'm not gonna pay 325.
I'd rather have three sets oftornado f3s than one set of bone
ceramics yeah, I've been usingjunk ceramics from junk bearings
.
I like them, if you ever.

(41:12):
You, if you're out there speed,speed skating, you'll see todd
set up.
Yeah, go over there and say hey, man, jamie sent me.
Okay, he says he says to hityou up and I guarantee you he'll
hand you a set of bearings,whatever size.
I guess it's eight millimeters,probably what you're running.
Yeah, so he'll hand you a set,man you know todd's a good dude

(41:35):
man.
He makes a good product.
Uh, is it, is it?
Is it the best in the world?
Probably not.
Uh, bang for your buck.
Yeah, absolutely is it the?
fastest bearing in the world.
I don't know, I can't prove it.
Um, we've done a lot of testingagainst other bearings, um, and

(41:57):
it it's up there with the best.
Yeah, you know it's up therewith the best stuff, uh, and
he's got, he's got severalinline skaters on the world team
and most of them skate hisbearings.

Speaker 2 (42:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (42:18):
That says something right there about them too.
Yeah, them are fast dudes.

Speaker 2 (42:25):
I'm working on getting there.
I'm trying.

Speaker 3 (42:36):
Did it die?

Speaker 5 (42:36):
It did, but I'm back all right, there you go so back
up.

Speaker 3 (42:40):
I drive, like I said.
I drive for a living, so I gotback up that's the nice thing
about editing.
I can cut that whole part outyeah, so yeah, but cleaning,
cleaning your bearings this iswhat I've done my whole entire
life, sean.
Yeah.
I've soaked them in acetone.
Of course I pull the dustcovers.
I soak them in acetone.

(43:02):
Okay.
And they get like two differentbaths.
So the first bath is just toget all the heavy grime out of
it.
You know I put it in like I putit in these and I'll show you.
I actually got some bearings inthem now, like pickle jars.
Okay.
I just swirl it around, get allthe stuff out of it, then I put

(43:28):
it and I pick them out with along pick that I got from Harbor
Freight.
Put them in the other one.
Just keep doing it until all theand I pick them out with a long
pick that I got from HarborFreight.
Okay, just pick them out, putthem in the other one.
Just keep doing it until allthe debris is gone.
Once the debris is gone, pullthem out.
You can either dry them with amicrofiber or paper towel, but I
blow them out with compressedair.

(43:48):
I have a compressed air machineover there that I just blow it
out.
Nice, and I let them sit for alittle while.
I just spin them, spin them andI put one thing of oil in them,
put the dust covers back on andgo.
I mean you can't believe howmany people sends me their
bearings to clean.
Yeah.
A lot Now you could go buy oneof those expensive electronic

(44:12):
cleaners and all that stuff.
But I do it, old school itworks.
It's always worked for me.
I don't know Other people havedifferent opinions, that's just
the way I do it.

Speaker 2 (44:28):
Yeah, and you know, and that's the nice thing is is
we all find our own groove andkind of go with what works best
for us, whether it be skating ormaintaining or anything.
But I always tell people, themost important thing is you have
to maintain your skates.

Speaker 3 (44:43):
Oh yeah, people are asking me like hey, man.
So I went to.
This is the story.
I went to Abilene and themanager of the rink she's like
hey, while you're here, can youclean my bearings?
I'm like sure, she's like Isaid when's the last time she
said oh, when you bought themfrom you last year I was like oh
, my.
God, I was like oh no.

Speaker 2 (45:10):
It's been a while.

Speaker 3 (45:12):
She's like no, no, I was like wow, but I cleaned them
and you know I'll do.
Even even they have dust coverson there.
You know I still clean mine, atleast, probably once every two
or three months, man, at least.
Yeah, I'm on it, I may be OCD,I may be OCD like that, but I

(45:33):
don't know, I just, I just likemy stuff clean man.
Yeah, I'm on it, I may be OCD,I may be OCD like that, but I
don't know, I just like my stuffclean man.

Speaker 2 (45:37):
Yeah, I'm doing mine about every six weeks, so and I
mean that's what works best forme and it's like I can tell
because it's like you can tellwhen you need to, because you
can, I can feel it in my wheels.
People that don't skate like wedo all the time I don't think
can tell, but it's like you havea certain feel after they're
clean and then it gets to apoint where you can tell like

(45:59):
all right, I gotta clean themagain, so at least I can oh yeah
, I could tell yeah, I had oneguy at skate city out here and
he couldn't get his wheel tospin.
I'm like, well, have you oiledhim?
And he goes?
No, and he pulled them off.
But he pulled the dust coversoff and they're steel bearing.
So oh no, and I just sprayedsome wd 40 in it and all of a

(46:20):
sudden it spun.
I'm like, get yourself someceramics.
I'm like you work at a rollerrink, you skate all the time.
Get yourself some ceramics.
So.
But so now you kind of brieflytouched upon what you skate on.
So what's your total breakdownof your skates?
Cause you got two pairs sittingbehind you like bearings,

(46:41):
wheels, all that kind of stuff.

Speaker 3 (46:44):
All right.
So this skate is is a Rydell951.
It was a color lab, uh, but Ipainted it green and purple.
Uh, this is a power dime arius.
It is a seven inch wheelbase,size, 10 on a 13 boot, which is

(47:09):
kind of small for that.
But that's the way I like ityeah uh, it came uh anodized,
but I fully removed the anodizeand I polished the whole plate.
Okay.
And then I put vinyl inserts inthe triangles, because we make
shirts and vinyl, so I wantedsome fancy stuff in my triangles

(47:32):
.
Nice it's definitely T mytriangles Nice, Uh, it's.
It's definitely T-nut mounted.
Okay.
Let's flush Mount washers.
Uh, it has a?
Uh jammers, custom swirl toe,toe plugs.
Uh, these wheels are actuallytornado, tornado skateings hubs.

(47:55):
Okay.
With Scott Corey 96A floralpurple tires.

Speaker 2 (48:01):
Nice.

Speaker 3 (48:03):
And 11 ball ceramic Tornado Skatebearings.
Okay.
Minis, minis.
Nice tornado skate bearings.
Okay, minis, minis, nice with.
Uh, you'll like this.
These are fp insoles.

(48:24):
Okay, odb welfare card.
You know who old, dirty bastardis?

Speaker 2 (48:31):
yeah, and I also know the wrestler One Dirty Bitch
too.

Speaker 3 (48:34):
Yeah, these are some of the best.
These have Fluid X technologyliquid inside of them.
Okay, some of the mostcomfortable insoles on the
planet for skates.

Speaker 2 (48:50):
Nice.

Speaker 3 (48:52):
And next it will be this this is, uh, Yvonne Merlin.
Okay.
It's, it's very, very.
I mean it weighs nothing.
Uh, it probably weighs.
Both of these probably weighless than my other one skate.

(49:14):
It weighs nothing.
It's probably the lightestskate on the planet.
It's a 13.
Okay, so it's big yeah.
It weighs nothing.
It weighs nothing.
So this is a Von Merlin.
It's a very nice constructedboot.
Mo makes it out of Dallas Texas.

(49:36):
It's all carbon fiber on thebottom, all carbon, and it has a
power dot arius, of course.
I love those plates.
F3 Tornado skate bearings andVon Merlin dots 102As 50.
What are they?

(49:56):
54 millimeter, okay, small,small nice but yeah, I love
these, the things that you cando.
This is like a ferrari.
Okay, of the skates, this islike a ferrari, it's.
It's something else.
I've fallen in love with theArius plates.
I didn't think I was going tobe able to skate it, because I'm

(50:19):
used to a little beta pro lineman, that's what.
I'm used to.
And then I got a roll line afterthat.
So I just started going up onthe kingpin angle so I could get
more articulation, you know.
So I could, you know, move inand out, uh, you know, do
footwork, toe work, uh, be ableto, you know, be more articulate

(50:42):
.
Nice.

Speaker 2 (50:46):
So well, very nice setups.
That's the first one ever sinceI saw them in the background.
I just keep thinking of theJoker.
That's the first one ever sinceI saw them in the background.

Speaker 3 (50:53):
I just keep thinking of the Joker.
Yeah, yeah, this is this, thisis what I think of it.
So, uh, when I go around, I goaround to the skating rinks, uh,
and I have my skate bag, uh,and here's my skate bag.
Oh, and I make, I make custom,uh, skate bags too that hold

(51:18):
your skates, each skate, okay,so you put your skate in there
and then you put them in yourbag.
But here's my, here's my, uh,my skate bag.

Speaker 2 (51:25):
It's got my little hulk on there oh yeah, but
that's like the og hulk rightthere yeah, yeah and I got, I
got the little guy.

Speaker 3 (51:34):
Where's he at?
He's right here.

Speaker 2 (51:39):
Okay, the one thing that's always puzzled me about
the Hulk is it didn't matter ifhe was in a tuxedo and turned
into the Hulk.
He ended up in purple pants.
How did that happen?

Speaker 3 (51:49):
I don't know, man, I don't know, but I just Everybody
says the Joker, the joker, butI'm like no, that's the hulk man
, well, what?

Speaker 2 (51:59):
yeah, but it was the white, green and purple, so
that's why it kind of like allcame together.
So because there's not a wholelot of white with the hulk yeah,
I love that.

Speaker 3 (52:08):
I mean all my cushions I get from Ron Murray
are purple and green.

Speaker 2 (52:14):
Nice.
But so now that you like purpleand green, we know you're the
Hulk and not the Joker.
Yeah, who are some of yourbiggest?

Speaker 3 (52:30):
influences, or your biggest influence in skating, oh
man, daniel Carlson is one ofthem okay that's, that's.
That's my buddy man, that's.
Uh, he's really near, near anddear to my heart.
Keith franklin's really closeto my heart, gary bosteros, uh.

(52:52):
Michelle garman, uh, to my heart, gary Bosteros.
Michelle Garman, lw Shack, allthose people, let's see I can
name a bunch of them.
Will Osborne, another real goodfriend of mine.

(53:15):
I mean, there's just a lot ofthem out there that I just Corey
Gower, you know.
You just watch him and you'relike wow, wow, he can skate.
Yeah.
Even Chase little Chase Jones.

Speaker 1 (53:34):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (53:35):
You know he's the upcomer, he's the up-and-coming
shuffle skater.
You know he's going to bereigning supreme someday.
Tj Dubay, good friend of mine,good skater, you know I can just
name and name and name peopleyeah uh, you know it's.

(53:59):
It's just when you get into theone of those rinks, you get
into an event.
You see all your people, man,you, you know that you look up
to and you want to hang out withyou.
Y'all just sit there and talkand geek out about skate stuff.
Man you know yeah that for meis.

(54:22):
You know, it was hard for mywife at first, you know, because
she was like oh, you're outthere with all them girls, so
maybe you need to start comingto these events with me, and uh,
so she started coming and she'slike all you do is work on a
few other people's skates.
That's like that's what I dookay, so now, the first time you
brought her, being from texasand all, did she bring her

(54:42):
shotgun with you, with her well,the first time she went, uh, I
mean she, you know we've beenskating together, you know at
the rinks, but this was an event, the the first event.

Speaker 2 (54:53):
I went without her.
Okay.

Speaker 3 (54:56):
So she heard how much fun it was and whatever else.
She's been to every one of themwith me since.
Because she makes the shirts.
Yeah, she's the one that cutsoff a vinyl and comes up with
some of the designs.
So she is Lone Star SkateDesigns with me.
Me and her both are the brainsof that comes up with some of
the designs.
She is Lone Star Skate Designswith me.

(55:16):
Me and her both are the brainsof that.
She always comes because shetakes orders while I'm skating.
I did notice that she does good,but she's had upwards of 20, 26

(55:37):
, 27 surgeries on her foot.
They told her she wasn't goingto walk unless skate.
And she's been skating.
We got married on the skatingsurface, with skates on.

Speaker 2 (55:48):
That's awesome.
Last year.

Speaker 3 (55:49):
Okay, we got married on the skating floor year.
Okay, we got married on theskating floor, uh, and then we
went, uh to saginaw, michigan,with gary balesteros and we
skated seven rinks in seven days, nice, yeah, yeah, we skated.
But we've been planning ongoing to denver, uh, and going

(56:10):
hanging out with dan just youknow non-event trip, just go up
there and hang out, go to thehot springs and you know, chill
and just hang and not be rushed,because skating events, man,
they're just, especially when webring our stuff with us, when
we bring the computer and thevinyl press machine, the cutter

(56:33):
and all that stuff.
When we start getting orderswith us, when we bring the
computer and the vinyl pressmachine and the cutter and all
that stuff, when we startgetting orders, we don't leave
the hotel room and other than goget vinyl or go get supplies or
t-shirts or yeah.
That's the only thing.
It, it, it.
It turns into a business andnot pleasure trip.
Uh, sometimes we just want togo do a pleasure trip, you know,

(56:54):
not have to do business.
But you know, sometimes you gotto do what you got to do yeah,
exactly.

Speaker 2 (57:01):
So now, what advice can you give to up-and-comers
I'm not even going to say youngup-and-comers, because the nice
thing about skating is you canjump into it at any age.

Speaker 3 (57:13):
So that's right.
That's right.
Uh, if you love it, stick withit.
Uh, if you don't go a differentdirection, but if you love it,
keep going you're gonna fall.
You're gonna bump, bruise, hurtyourself.
But if you're going to bump,bruise, hurt yourself.
But if you're not trying,you're not falling.

(57:35):
I mean, we all fall, I fall,when we were younger, we were
like man I don't fall, I don'tfall, I don't fall.
Okay, get on a speed team.
You've fallen.
I promise you you're going tomiss the half of your leg.
With all that roll on gonnatake all your, all your hair off

(57:56):
your legs.
Better shave them or wear afull length spandex or something
, because I've.
I don't know how manyraspberries I've got on my legs
from speed skating over theyears, but you know, back then
when we fell, we wereembarrassed yeah you know, now
it's I.
I just pop back up and go onabout my business because, hey,

(58:16):
if you're not out there tryingto do something new, you're not
going to get any better yeah,exactly, usually when I fall I
pop back up and go.

Speaker 2 (58:26):
Did it look good?
Was it like?
What do I get on the dive scale?

Speaker 3 (58:30):
so yeah, I did that at the castle man, uh, during
our our uh honeymoon.
Uh, I was right in front of thedj booth.
I was in front of will osborne,gary bosteros was there, keith,
all my friends were sittingthere and I'm I'm over there on
my toes next thing, you know, myfeet is up over my head.
Boom, I landed on my back andthey were like man, are you okay

(58:54):
?
You know, just pop back up,start skating.
But I woke up the next morningI had a bruise from the middle
of my side all the way to myknee.
It was it was like 10 incheswide all the way down that's a
good one.

Speaker 2 (59:10):
That's one for the record books.

Speaker 3 (59:12):
Hey man, you fall.
It's not for everybody.
You can't force somebody to dothis.
It's either you love it or youdon't.

Speaker 2 (59:25):
Exactly.

Speaker 3 (59:27):
And when I put my skates on and I'm on that floor,
nothing else matters.

Speaker 2 (59:34):
Exactly, except for when my food stop is.

Speaker 3 (59:39):
Well, I already know that we're eating when we leave
the skating rink floor so I'mhappy already.

Speaker 2 (59:44):
There you go, there you go.

Speaker 3 (59:46):
I'm happy already, but it just seems like when you
get in there and those events,man, it goes by so fast.
Oh, absolutely those events,man, it goes by so fast.
Oh, absolutely, you know you'retalking to all your people.
You know and, and, and, uh, uh,mark mark magoo was like hey
man at a skate, like you, youknow him right I don't.

Speaker 2 (01:00:09):
I'll get connected with him though mark mcan.

Speaker 3 (01:00:11):
He does a.
He does a video podcast as well.
Okay, he's like hey man and uhRoger with Mr Rogers.
He's another uh podcast, but hedoes like videos.
He posted the video andeverything he did he didn't want
with Gary, but we were talkingon, uh, abilene, he's like, yeah

(01:00:32):
, man, I need to get you on thepodcast, you know, and get your
story, or whatever.
And I said, all right, just letme know, man, I'll be glad to
talk to you anytime, you know,whatever, because this is what I
love to do and you know, Ialways get in a lot of trouble
because my wife's like you spendmore time on the phone with

(01:01:03):
your skate friends than you dome.

Speaker 2 (01:01:04):
You know I'm like babe come on, don't be jealous
over that.
You know?
Yeah, this is what I do.
So do any of you worse.
Do any of your skate friendsshow up to your house, knock on
your door and ask if you cancome out, and play.

Speaker 3 (01:01:10):
They call a lot.
Hey, you coming to the rinktonight it's got to be the old
school.

Speaker 2 (01:01:17):
They got to knock on the door and ask if you can come
out and play yeah, yeah, thatwould be cool so now, how can my
followers follow you or findyou on social media or wherever?

Speaker 3 (01:01:27):
I'm on facebook.
Um, just uh, jamie ogle, or uh,we do have a lone star skate
designs, it's all one word lonestar skate, ska designs.
Okay, that's on Facebook andit's a group.
It's where my wife posts upstuff.
She's got a cup spinning on thespinner right now.

(01:01:50):
Looks pretty cool, right.
Oh, yeah, it does.
Yeah, yeah, she makes somepretty cool stuff.
Okay, you know she makestumblers and you know epoxy
tumblers and stuff like thatwe're making.

(01:02:12):
I'm actually making skatetumblers here soon Epoxy.
I'm going to put a bunch ofskate stickers on it and then
epoxy over it, but they're gonnaglow in the dark.
You know I'm gonna go over thetop bro.
Uh, I'm gonna go over the topwith an led handle on it all
there you go, stuff wouldn'thave it any other way.

Speaker 2 (01:02:27):
So well, I appreciate you coming on the show today.
So appreciate you having mebrother look forward to seeing
you when you come back out yes,sir, you're going to be there in
denver right for the this year.
Yeah, I don't think he's got adate solidified, but I think he
said in august okay, dependsupon what day in august, because

(01:02:47):
I know I got a race in august,so yeah but if you can make it
out there to castle, it's maythe third okay, I know you said
you got a race later, later may,but you can make it out there.

Speaker 3 (01:03:01):
It would be one not to miss, I promise yeah, that
one.

Speaker 2 (01:03:05):
My race is in saint paul, minnesota, so I'm looking
at.
Like you, you got to figure outfinances before you fly out but
.
I.

Speaker 3 (01:03:14):
I already know Appreciate it.
Sean All right, thank you,thank you.