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Kena Siu (00:02):
Midlife Butterfly, a
woman in the sacred in between.
She's not who she once was andnot quite who she's becoming yet
.
She's unraveling, awakening,remembering.
She's navigating lifetransitions, divorce, loss,
reinvasion, moves with a burningdesire for freedom, joy and
solid living.
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She feels the pull to rise, tofly.
She's no longer afraid of herown wings.
Hey, beauty, welcome back to theMidlife Butterfly Podcast.
This is Kena, your host, and Igot a question about what does
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it mean, the sacred in between?
Because, well, the trailer, nosorry, the intro of this podcast
actually talks about the sacredin between.
I'm going to be interviewed ata podcast this afternoon evening
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and this is one of thequestions that they're going to
ask me, and I was reflectingabout it and the sacred in
between.
So what is it for me?
Is it for me?
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But first of all, life, it'ssacred itself.
Being alive, having thisspiritual experience in a human
body, is such a privilege andhonor for me.
I hope for you as well, becausebeing alive, I mean.
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What else can we ask for Life,with everything that is in it?
And as we look around, yeah,there is chaos, there is a lot
of things happening and we cancall ourselves sometimes more
privileged than other people.
At the same time, I do believethat our souls, which never die
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it, comes here to experiencedifferent things and we choose a
body, we choose a vessel and atthe same time, we did choose
where to live, where toexperience life.
Either we might get tounderstand it or not, because,
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anyway, every time we drop anear in a different vessel, we're
just completely blank.
We forgot the experiences thatwe have in the previous life.
So, yeah, that's my take onthat.
So, being sacred because we aresoul, experiencing our
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humanness in here and in between, because life is a journey,
because life is a journey, weare always going through
something, even when we haveplans and goals and dreams.
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Life happens while we want toachieve all those things.
And as human beings, I dobelieve that we are here to grow
and evolve.
So that sacred in between isreally experiencing life itself
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While you are growing andevolving.
Otherwise, like, what are wedoing here?
We're just surviving, or we arejust trying to control things,
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or we are just living inautopilot.
I used to live like that and itliterally sucks.
It does I mean?
Then we feel stuck and then wefeel frustrated and then we are
worried about whatever happenedin the past, and then we are
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anxious about the future, whenthe truth is, everything is
happening in this present moment, and it's only in the present
moment where we can actuallyenjoy the journey.
It's only in the present momentthat we can learn about
ourselves.
It's only in the present momentthat we can appreciate whatever
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is happening around us.
It's only in the present momentthat we can experience our
emotions, either if we call thembetween codes, negative or
positive.
So, yeah, this journey is justso fascinating I choose to see
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it that way.
Now.
It has been a fucking process.
It has been a journey of a lotof ups and downs and I'm so
proud of it.
I'm so fucking proud of myjourney to tell you the truth,
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and speaking my truth has beenone of those, one of those
things that I'm very proud of it.
And and having this podcast haspushing me to create this
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opportunity to speak my truthand be vulnerable and joke about
it and talk about my insides oroutsides, about life and how I
am experiencing it, because whatI've noticed is, by speaking my
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truth, I have given theopportunity to others to reflect
about their lives, to have ahamoments and saying, oh okay,
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we're also going through similarthings, or to say, yeah, I can
relate to that and thank youbecause that helps me to get
more at peace with myself andthose are such beautiful gifts.
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You know, just by speaking mytruth, just by saying what's
happening with me, what I haveexperienced with pain and sorrow
and grief and joy andadventures and decisions that I
have taken on life, thatinspires others right and help
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them process also their ownstuff.
I've noticed the importance ofbeing vulnerable.
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I used to have, and probablyyou have it now.
I don't know that vulnerabilitywas a weakness and what I have
come to experience in the past Idon't know years is
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vulnerability is so fuckingpowerful truth when you get to
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share what is inside of you andyour voice breaks and then
you're swearing and then theemotions are just coming through
and tears of sometimes, andexcitement.
It's so fucking powerful and,at the same time, something that
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I got to experience thisweekend when I went to a
festival called ConexiónEcstatic Ecstatic Connection and
just by being present withanother person and looking at
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their eyes without sayinganything, you can also there, be
vulnerable.
You don't have to say a wordbecause in that present moment
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when you are staring at the eyesof someone else, everything
drops the vessel.
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You know, the body doesn'tmatter, the labels, the roles,
everything that we think we are,you know our identity.
It just fades away just bybeing present and being seen by
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the eyes of another person.
I have several encounters withdifferent beautiful women and
just by looking at each other wewere crying and just by talking
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to you now I am having sometears in my eyes because it was
so powerful, it was so beautiful.
My eyes because it was sopowerful, it was so beautiful.
Yes, we did exchange some wordsat the end and at one point
with this lady, because just thenight before where we were
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doing ecstatic dance, we got toconnect and just dance and, you
know, interchange, movement andsight and the energy and
everything.
And then the next day I got tosee her at a workshop of
biodanza and at the end, well,kind of almost at the end, part
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of of this, um, we just, we justconnected again and so we had
the option to just, you know,look at the other person or give
them the beautiful ecstatic hug.
It was so wonderful, it was sowonderful to experience the
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presence of that other being andthe warmness, close to my chest
and my belly, with suchstrength and love, because at
the end, it was just two soulsconnecting, recognizing each
other.
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Just two souls connecting,recognizing each other.
And when we finally wereseparating apart from the hug, I
couldn't help it and I told herI love you.
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I really felt it.
It was so beautiful.
Having that opportunity to beseen and heard, mostly with our
senses instead of words, is justso, so magical.
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It is wonderful.
So, if you have the chance toexperience something like this,
please do.
Don't be afraid.
Don't be afraid of what thesoul really is.
And that's why I love midlifebutterfly, because I love
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empowering women to to come back, to connect to their souls.
You know, getting to know whoyou are, with no labels, with no
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hats, with no roles, getting toknow who you are truly and
getting to love yourself trulyand fully.
It's such a game changer forhow you behave with yourself,
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first of all, the relationshipwith yourself and, by default,
how you can actually change therelationship with others by
learning to love yourself atthat level.
At that level and because youcan love yourself at this level
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and I mean it comes down to allthat acceptance and
understanding and loving yourshadow and loving your light.
And when you get to the levelis when you, I do believe you,
can really then allow others tosee you, to really see you.
Otherwise, if we don't acceptwho we really are and keep
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hiding and being, you know,unpleasing and I don't know all
these mechanisms that we use toprotect ourselves right, to
protect our heart, to protectour mind, to protect our
pleasure and sex and sex, whenwe get to open to that and love
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it, the way it soul, experienceyour soul, touch your soul, ah,
it's so beautiful, it is, it is,it is and this is part of the
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that sacred in between again, isit's the human experience in
this life, while connecting toother souls at different levels,
because it's each of us.
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We're're going throughdifferent journeys and it is not
about comparing to others.
I think it's more about when wesee others.
It's about how that otherperson can inspire us, because
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sometimes, when we feel envy andI think it's normal, you know
to feel it is part of ourhumanness it's really observing
and saying, okay, I feel envyfor this person.
So what is it that this personhas?
Or is that I'm craving for it?
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That I'm craving for it, orprobably, on the contrary,
something like, okay, that issomething that I don't want
anymore in my life.
Right, it's always this kind oflike duality, so being and
having that kind of awareness tosay, okay, so, this person is
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showing me something.
Okay, so this person is showingme something, so what is it
that I can take?
You need to learn and to grow,because through these
relationships are our biggestteachers, aren't we?
I mean, we can spend a longtime all we want and do inner
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work and work in ourselves, butthe true work comes when we get
to experience it with otherpeople, because it's again when
we get inspired or when we gettriggered.
Isn't it so fun when we gettriggered?
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I mean, I choose to see it thatway now, because when someone
triggers me, it's just areflection of something that I
get to work on myself, and so Ialways like digging in.
It's like, okay, this person istriggering me.
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What does it mean?
What is that reflection?
What is it?
You know, this person is mymirror.
So what I mean?
What?
What is it reflecting in me?
That there's something that Iget to work on it?
Is it more patience?
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Is it more love?
Is it more understanding.
Is it still my wound ofrejection?
Is it still like something thatI used to be and I seriously
don't want to come back to thatpart of myself anymore because I
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know it's not serving me.
So I love triggers to tell youthe truth, because it's how I
can keep growing.
So my invitation to you is toyeah, to see triggers that way.
It's an invitation to work insomething in yourself, to get to
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know more yourself.
And when you get to know moreabout yourself, more yourself
and when you get to know moreabout yourself, either if you
see it as a positive or negative, between quotes it's just about
understanding more of who youare, of who you are, and
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sometimes, even when you cannotunderstand it, it's about
accepting it, simply acceptingit.
We get too much in our headstrying to understand and make
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sense of things, when the truthis that's the mind trying to
figure it out.
When we get to drop into ourbodies, the body is saying
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something totally different.
The body doesn't give a shitabout what your mind is trying
to figure out.
If you're just feeling it, ifyou are just there, very, very
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present, you know.
It's just coming back to theconnection that I have with
these ladies just by looking attheir eyes.
I didn't need my mind, I justneeded to feel all those
sensations and emotions in mybody.
That's all I needed.
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I mean, I didn't requireanything else.
My body who felt the sadness,the joy, the presence, the love,
the pleasure, the.
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I mean those are the emotionsthat I can remember now, but I
mean, as you probably might know, there's so many emotions that
we don't even need to label.
Why do we have to fucking labeleverything?
Yeah, so, yeah, it's justdropping in and connecting back
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to the body more, instead oftrying to figure out what the
mind wants to say.
It's just Just drop it.
Yeah, that's what I can tellyou.
Just fucking drop it.
I mean, how many times do youfeel overwhelmed or you are
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overthinking?
I used to overthink most of mylife and it was so fucking
tiring because most of the time,just the overthinking is about
trying to control.
Control what the exterior?
The only thing that I get tocontrol now is my mind.
The only thing that I get tocontrol now is my mind.
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That's the only conclusion thatI have gotten into these past
10 years and most of the lastfive or six, I mean, if you
really get to reflect about it,how much control you have.
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Yeah, leaving this silence foryou to think about it, because
the truth is you cannot controlmost of the things.
You cannot control other people, I mean, in a way, you can
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probably manipulate them, butfor how long?
For what benefit?
You cannot control the weather.
You cannot control youremployer if at one time decides
to let you go.
You cannot control all yourdevices or whatever is in your
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house that it can break.
You cannot control a plant thateventually the life is coming
to an end the same with a petcoming to an end, the same with
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a pet.
If you reflect about it, youcannot control most of the
things.
What you get to control is yourmind, and it is such a gift
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when you get to learn that, ohmy god.
It is such a gift because thenyou stop living in autopilot and
you start creating the lifethat you want, the life that you
deserve, because once youunderstand that you can control
your thoughts and, by default,your emotions and vice versa,
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because everything isintertwined, of course then you
get to choose, and by having theawareness because the only way
to control your mind is havingan awareness.
And by having that awarenessthen you get to choose better,
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better and better, because atthe beginning probably those
choices that you have are notthe best that you would like to,
but at least you do have achoice and then you get to
choose whatever works best foryou at that very moment.
And I'm saying that very moment, in that very moment.
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And I'm saying that very moment, or this very moment, because
this very moment is the onlything we have, because even when
you are in control of your mind, you cannot control the future.
You can only be here in the now, experiencing here in the now,
and from here you take decisions.
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From here you choose how youwant to experience life, because
you are the creator.
That's the truth.
I mean, we are here because ofGod.
You know God, universe source.
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Yes, we are an extension of God.
The thing is, god also gives usfree will.
Yes, so we might be guided allthe time, and it's up to us if
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we want to be guided and follow.
And with that free will, itcomes your responsibility to
create the sacred life that youwant.
God is the guide, but don't letit say it's just up to you In a
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way, yes, but, at the same time, you are responsible for your
life.
You are the one living it.
You are the one living it.
So what are you doing with it?
Are you still surviving?
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Are you driving?
Are you really creating a life?
That you are enjoying, a lifeof connection, connection with
others, connection with nature,connection with yourself,
connection with nature,connection with yourself, with
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your being, with your soul?
Yeah, so that's my invitation.
That's my invitation for youtoday to take the time to go
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within, to check with your body,with your heart.
What is it in there that youwould like to experience?
What is it in there that youwant to create in this sacred
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life that you have the privilegeand the honor to live, and the
honor to live?
And this is a response fromyour heart, from your soul.
This is not a response from thehead, because the head is going
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to go to yeah, the relationship.
Oh yeah, my kids.
Oh yeah, the job.
Oh yeah, my business.
Oh yeah, my kids.
Oh yeah, the job.
Oh yeah, my business.
It's not about that.
It's about your truth.
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It's about your truth.
So go journal about it, godance about it, go have a walk
about it, go have a conversationwith someone I don't know.
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And if you want to reach out, Iwould be more than happy to
have a conversation about thiswith someone I don't know.
And if you want to reach out, Iwould be more than happy to
have a conversation about thiswith you, because life is so
fucking magnificent andbeautiful and so worth living.
So worth living.
Yes, that's what life is.
So, thank you so much forlistening today, thank you for
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your time, thank you for yourenergy, thank you for being here
.
I know life it's busy andhaving you here, seriously, it
means a lot to me.
So, yeah, reach out and I'moffering a couple of.
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So that's it for today.
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Go and make the best of yourlife, because you are worthy,
because you deserve it, becauseI love you and I want the best
for you.
Much love to you, as usual, andtake care.
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