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June 15, 2025 55 mins

Finding Balance: Permission to Play in a Serious World


In this episode of 'Permission to Evolve,' host Brandon Thielk and co-host Holly Deschenes discuss the importance of integrating play and fun into the lives of high performers who often take things too seriously. Brandon reflects on his own journey from a hyper-focused and serious mindset in his twenties to discovering the value of being more lighthearted and allowing space for creativity and joy in his thirties. They delve into how societal pressures, upbringing, and external validation often lead to an overly serious approach to life. Brandon shares practical strategies to reconnect with playfulness, balance productivity with relaxation, and maintain emotional health. They also touch on how to manage shame, set realistic expectations, and foster healthier self-talk. This episode highlights the benefits of a balanced life where work and play coexist, enhancing overall well-being and performance.


00:00 Introduction and Host Background

00:17 The Importance of Play for High Performers

00:44 Personal Journey: From Seriousness to Play

01:40 Balancing Work and Play

02:44 The Dangers of Over-Seriousness

03:58 Healthy Mindsets for Success

08:35 The Role of Self-Worth and Integrity

16:46 Navigating Professional Integrity

24:44 The Impact of Upbringing on Seriousness

30:23 The Benefits of Joy and Relaxation

32:25 The Journey Inward: Finding Self-Worth

33:21 Healing Through Healthier Relationships

33:45 The Importance of Playfulness

34:19 Questioning Childhood Beliefs

35:26 Rewiring for Self-Love

35:44 Embracing Fun and Authenticity

36:11 Overcoming Seriousness and Stress

37:42 Generational Patterns and Awareness

40:21 Balancing Seriousness and Play

43:45 Practical Steps to Rediscover Joy

48:08 Self-Compassion and Neutralizing Shame

52:21 Mastery Through Balance

53:56 Connecting with Brandon: Coaching and Resources

55:34 Final Thoughts: Lighten Up and Enjoy the Ride

Connect with Brandon:

https://brandonthielk.com/

https://www.youtube.com/@brandonthielk

https://www.instagram.com/brandonthielk/

https://www.instagram.com/permissiontoevolvepodcast/

https://www.tiktok.com/@bthielk


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