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Welcome to the podcast.
My name is Brian Carr from theMedisave team, although any
opinions expressed here are myown and not those of Medisave or
its partners.
So here's what we're talkingabout today.
The MFN executive order hasbecome a catalyst for investment
transformation, particularly inthe UK.
You may recall May 2025, theadministration in the US kind of
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released a bombshell policydirective that shook the pharma
industry.
It was this revised mostfavored nation MFN drug pricing
policy, which came through anexecutive order on May 12th,
followed by the Health and HumanServices detailed pricing
targets that came out on May20th.
This directive sought to reallysignificantly lower Medicare
drug prices by targeting foreignreference pricing benchmarks.
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This is a framework previouslyconsidered but now revived with
actionable targets in federalurgency.
So almost immediately,pharmaceutical companies began
announcing sweeping investmentplans across the United States.
So at face value, theseannouncements might look like
business as usual expansions,but a deeper dive reveals
strategic efforts aimed ataligning with emerging pricing
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regulations, securingtariff-exempt designations, tax
breaks and localizingmanufacturing among shifting
geopolitical and policypressures.
So why is there an uproar?
Well, understand this MFNframework.
Let's anchor the discussion.
What does this MFN policyreally entail?
Simply put, policy mandates.
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Medicare paid no more forselect drugs than the lowest
price paid across a basket ofeconomically comparable nations.
Right?
So while earlier draftsappeared during the Trump
administration, the renewedversion here really bought
regulatory teeth and scopedimplementations.
So for brand marketers,innovation teams, access
specialists, executiveleadership of pharma companies,
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this meant one thing sudden,unpredictable margin compression
on Medicare paid therapies.
In the United States, drugmakers, especially those deeper
reliant on rare disease,oncology, chronic therapy
margins, suddenly foundthemselves pivoting their US
policy responses from litigationto localization right.
There has been a wave ofpharmaceutical investment
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announcements in the US.
Since May, over a dozencompanies have declared vast
expansions in their Americanmanufacturing, r&d and
commercial infrastructures.
So let's walk through the mostsignificant players, based on
verified public records andanalysis.
Astrazeneca, for example,announced $50 billion in
investment in the US by 2030.
This happened in July 2025.
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They announced they includemajor new drug manufacturing
capabilities in Virginia andsignificant scale-ups in cell
therapy and R&D across Marylandand Massachusetts, california,
texas and Indiana.
So the rationale for this is adirect response to the MFN
pricing policy and you know, thepossibility of other punitive
tariffs under the quote byAmerican policies.
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Right, roach, looking, you know,they're diagnosing future value
with another 50 billion dollarcommitment.
Less than a week after theexecutive order Roach said had
not made headlines with theirmassive 50 billion dollar
promised investment over thenext five years, they allocated
an immediate $700 milliontowards a new biologic
production facility in HollySprings, north Carolina.
Additionally, $550 million isbeing channeled into diagnostics
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in Indianapolis.
Right so, diagnostics is seenas both politically palatable
and commercially agile.
The investment signals Roachdoubling down on hybrid drug
plus companion testing pathways.
Right, so there's been anindustry-wide domino effect.
Some of the major players areresponding and, following those
announcements by AstraZeneca andRoche, others followed quickly
in what became a cascade ofUS-oriented manufacturing and
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development commitments.
They weren't isolated decisions, they formed a full-blown
capital deployment wave.
So so, look, you know.
Look at some others.
Eli Lilly $27 billion announcedfor four new production
facilities, expanding drug andinjectable manufacturing.
Johnson Johnson $ billionthrough 2030, strategically
directed towards vaccinemanufacturing, gene therapy
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research.
Biogen at 2 billion in anextension of its North Carolina
biologics campus.
Right.
So other pharma giants arejoining as well.
You've got Merck, amgen, pfizer, novo Nordisk, abbvie, gilead
and Ciple have quietly sharedtheir large scale investments
tied to internal manufacturingships or supply localization
strategies.
While exact dollar figures aresometimes less publicized, the
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industry insider suggests thescale really does parallel or
exceed some of the headliningpeers from those.
So what's the real strategybehind these moves?
Let's break away from thedollar figures.
Let's look at their implicationFor farming strategy teams and
brand architects.
These investments are clearlymore defensive than
opportunistic.
Here's why Policy-drivenprotection for one right.
With drug price benchmarkingtied to foreign markets,
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companies are localizingoperations to earn goodwill from
regulators and lessen thechance of broader importation
restrictions or even supplytariffs.
Right Two, tax and subsidyincentives right.
States competing for pharmaprojects now offer tax
abatements, fast-track licensingand inflation-protecting
utilities that sweeten therestructuring pot.
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Also, there's thismanufacture-to-reimburse model
right.
So MFN metrics tied to ex-USmarkets create incentives to
stop importing from quote,expensive European facilities.
Right.
Us-based production becomes bothpolitically favorable and
financially rational.
So you look at the role ofbrand executives, market access,
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stakeholders and infusionnetworks.
These investments responsesreally reverberate across those
three departments.
So here's some key takeawaysfor these segments.
So for brand marketers,us-based manufacturing creates
opportunities to tell quote, anAmerican value chain story,
aligning with payer expectationsand political narratives.
Localized production reducesfear of supply chain disruptions
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by, you know, from importedingredients and overseas right,
enabling robust DTC campaignswith emotionally grounded
messaging.
Innovation and R&D teams willsee new local facilities mean
faster prototype testing,quicker tech transfers, less
regulatory misalignment whenyou're dealing with
international agencies.
Right, biologic cell therapiescompanion diagnostics can be
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incubated domestically withreal-time payer input and
patient feedback loops Forpatient access and support teams
you're looking at domesticfulfillment going to be
simplified on the logistics sideand lower turnaround times for
enrollment programs improves SLAadherence for specialty
pharmacy support.
Increased availability ofdiagnostics and cell therapy
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infusion centers createspatient-centric navigation
opportunities that should bebuilt into the CRM pipelines.
So, if you're in IT andsecurity teams, the US
expansions bring digitalinfrastructure under more
consistent jurisdictional spans,which simplifies their
compliance under the frameworkslike 21 CFR, part 11.
Data hosting and analyticscapabilities, co-located with
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genetic and biomarker productionof sites, could boost cyber
resilience.
Right Infusion centers and HCPengagement how they're going to
see localized care enablement,with these investments flowing
into onshore production here inthe US and diagnostic
manufacturing.
Patient infusion centers willserve as those localized access
hubs for specialty therapies.
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They can integrate thediagnostics, real-time
eligibility criteria,personalized dosing, and it
could soon occur within regionalhealth systems For HCP
engagement initiatives expectnew clinical trial opportunities
, earlier patient identificationacross EMR EHR platforms and
deeper institutionalcollaborations between academic
centers and the manufacturingzones right.
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So what's the impact on drugpricing innovation, rick?
So, while the MFN policypressures pharma players to
compress margins, itparadoxically catalyzes new
delivery models that reducecosts.
So use of a digital adherencetools to point validate outcomes
under real world pricing bansright.
So integration of pharmapharmacoeconomic modeling and
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price pre-launch campaigns right.
More similar in genetic therapy, more biosimilar in genetic
therapy coverage aspatient-cared confidence
improves alongside domesticproduction.
So when we look at the end ofthese strategic shifts in the US
pharma landscape, this post-MFNera really has launched more
than a pricing conversation.
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It's rewritten some of theplaybooks across the pharma
industry.
Right now we're looking atabout $277 billion, by my
calculation, in confirmed USinvestment since the
announcements in May 2025.
It does reflect a move toprotect margins, increase
regulatory goodwill and capturepolicy-driven advantages,
cross-functional impact acrossbrand market access, digital
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engagement and patient supportpaths are going to happen.
You'll see downstream benefitsthat can be expected for
adherence programs, infusionoperations, diagnostics
integration.
So pharma is not just reshapingits manufacturing footprint,
it's rebuilding its ecosystemfrom the ground up to secure
future relevance in a tightlynegotiated healthcare world.
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