June 24, 2025 • 58 mins
Ring-a-ling! Someone pick up the phone! Caller ID says: YOU
America has gripes. Social gripes. Etiquette is going unchecked left, right and center. Our beloved listeners from across the globe have cases they need solved. The law of offices of Premeditated are here to help.
Through guided litigation, we lead our listeners through the murky legal waters of: Venmo request etiquette, breaking up over grammar, naming conventions for candy sizes and disingenuous “how are you’s”.
Tune in to hear our verdicts, and perhaps YOUR VOICE, on our raucous Season 1 finale.
Hugs and kisses America,
Graham and Neil
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Well, I often times I'll go and I'll sleep on the little like
couch thing that I have in the other room if I can't sleep in
the bedroom. I'll the day bed, the day bed.
Yeah, I'll, I'll swap it up to the day bed, even if I'm like
here alone, you know. It is, yeah.
I think it's just like a change.I look, it's just it's almost
like the reset. Button.
Yeah, the problem is that like I'm so close to the one O one
that it's so loud in that room. Oh yeah, the one.
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It's just. God, shut up.
It's like. Who even needs to drive this
late at night? And who's right riding a Harley?
Yeah. At 2:00 in the morning.
Listen to motorcycle riders get get your 8 hours, you know, get
some, get some sleep. Yeah, exactly.
You need to be frosty because you're in danger.
Frosty, frosty like fresh if. If you stay frosty, it means you
(00:44):
stay alert. You're not familiar with this
idiom. Not used in that way, no.
I'll start using it though. It would be good if you did.
This is premeditated. The podcast investigating
society's unwritten laws and theheinous ways they're broken.
True crime, low stakes. I'm Neil, I'm Graham, and this
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is. Premeditated.
Hello, America. Stars and Stripes.
It's good to see you again. I've been missing you.
I've been thinking about Americaall day long.
Oh, it's it's all night. The first thing in my head when
I wake up. It's yeah, it's the last thing
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in my. Head US of gosh darn A.
And all the all the gorgeous people from this great wide
country. And why?
I'm also thinking about why not everyone is listening to
Premeditated. That is something I also think
about. When I wake up in the morning.
Yeah, exactly why not? The nice thing is that the
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people who are listening are premeditated, have been sending
us their cases. Oh, they've been listening.
They've been listening, they've been talking, they've been
active listeners, they've been active listeners.
They listen and they respond. And they respond to ADC number.
Yes, because we we are. I mean, we're such.
Headquarters in Washington. DC Americans, we have to go to
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this podcast. Must be in the capital.
We are the justices of, I mean, we're like a law, law making
body. Yeah.
Certainly we're in arm of the government.
Oh yeah, two arms. You know what?
I I this brings up a good point,Graham.
It's astonishing to me be this doing this podcast now for as
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long as we've been doing it has shown me how little I know about
the legal system. But who?
Does anybody know anything? Does anyone?
Think about the legal who? Can even make a complete
sentence come out of their mouth.
I can. I can barely do it.
But like, so I, you know, I've thought about this too, because
it's like I'm once we get into like the YouTube comment level
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of fame. Where if someone leaves a
YouTube comment which? We're almost there.
We're just about there. But like, once people start like
commenting, being like, these guys are wrong, you should drive
on the left side of the road, blah, blah, blah, I can't
believe how wrong they are. And like really giving it back
to us. I challenge those future
listeners. Show me one judge that has
gotten every case right. No one knows.
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No one knows what they're doing.People are holding us to such a
high standard exactly. They they expect 100% accuracy,
like moral accuracy from our rulings, and I don't think
that's something that we can provide.
I don't think that's something the judicial system provides.
Like, like, there's never been acase where both parties walked
away and we're like, yeah, that was fair.
We both treated pretty fairly. Yeah, I feel pretty good about
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that. Like what divorced couple going
through splitting up their Beanie Babies?
Divorced people aren't happy. They're unhappy.
Well, they're doing something that probably makes them
happier, maybe, but I think the.Which is getting divorced.
Yeah. Yeah.
Oh, I see. Yeah, Like in the long run.
Yeah, I don't think happy couples divorce.
Sure, that's probably true. There's some, but again, some
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might be. Some happy couples might
divorce. There could be extenuating
circumstances and those are the circumstances that we really get
into on this podcast. We do what?
When is it appropriate, You know, and everything's
appropriate at some point. Yeah, there's got to be a line
somewhere. There's lines all over the place
and they are not straight lines.And Speaking of lines, our phone
lines have been open. Oh my God.
(04:26):
And we have voicemails from dozens of listeners from twos of
countries. From twos maybe?
Even threes of countries. Do we have any Canadians in
there? Probably.
Yeah, I know for a fact that we have at least one other country.
Oh, I hope they have an accent. Oh.
I bet they do. But here's the thing.
Neither of us have listened to any of these voicemails.
(04:47):
I haven't heard any of these. Yeah, so they're all a mystery
to me. All I know is that they exist.
All we know have confirmed that they've left.
Yeah. All we know is that our producer
Matt has listened to them and that so we know they exist, but
I have no idea what the contentsthese case files create.
It's kind of a zero knowledge proof.
Yeah, it's gonna be fun, but oneof us is going to listen to it.
(05:07):
We'll take turns. Do you want to take turns?
I think it'll probably be you. Every single time.
Every voicemail. What?
No, it's like only you could open presents on Christmas.
Yeah, but I want to. I want to watch.
OK, so yeah, we're going to taketurns or maybe I'll have, I'll
do two turns, then you have one turn.
Sure, fair enough. And then I will get the little
secret you're. Going to hear the whole
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voicemail. I'll hear the whole voicemail.
Oh, I'm going to be laughing andyou won't be able to know what
I'm. Laughing.
I have no idea. That I'm going to bring up an
improv scene with you, and I want you to react not as Neil
Zumwald would, but as I want your reaction to be informed by
the character you so choose. OK, I mean I can I can I can
create a character at will. So if you step into a scene as
(05:51):
a, let's say I'm just spit on here of 16th century night, OK,
I need you to respond like a 15th century night.
So I go back 100. Years, correct.
OK, this is this is how you knowit's going to be a good podcast
when I can't remember what century I said.
You said 2 seconds ago, yeah, sothe, so we're talking, we're
(06:12):
going like, I actually don't know when the Black Plague was.
I was going to make a Black Plague joke because it happened
I think in the 1400s. Yeah, no one who lived through
it can tell us. Yeah, there were no survivors
because they've all died since. Yeah.
But first, actually, before we get to calls, I have a fun
little thing I've been meaning to read to you.
Oh my gosh, you have something to read?
(06:33):
I have something to read to you speaking actually Speaking of
YouTube comments. This is a comment I got on a
social media community forum page post.
OK, so I have been, this is, this is exciting.
So I have been doing a it's likean online course about like
it's, you're trying to find likean agent or manager.
(06:55):
And so it's basically like a a coach throughout that coaching
you through that process. And so one of the things.
Agent to get an agent. Agent yes, exactly.
Well put. I maybe this is a pyramid
scheme. So one of the things you have to
do is to figure out your cast ability.
So it's like the sort of like rule of thumb is like what
actors could you step in and play the role?
(07:16):
So like a lot of it when you think about casabe, it's like
who do you look like? What kind of like voices or you
know, like what so. For me, that would be like a
Laura Dern. Exactly.
That would be like a like a likemaybe a Laura Linney.
It would be a Laura. Oh, Laura, Yeah, for sure.
Laura. Yes, exactly.
Those are. 2 Some blonde Laura. I can step in and fill those.
(07:38):
She her name's not Laura, but you could do the AMC Welcome to
AMC movie theaters. Nicole Kidman, yes.
Yeah, I'm getting some Kidman. Vibe OK just quick before you
read this. I don't understand that world.
Like gay men freak out every time that AMC commercial.
It's not just gay men. It's not just gay men.
(07:59):
It's like it's everybody in the movie theatre, but like gay men.
Maybe those are the people that whose group texts that I am in,
but they will talk about it and I'm like, I don't understand
what is so special. It's so weird to be swept away
by a commercial. Yeah, a little commercial.
I mean, I get the part of it that I do get is that she does
step in a puddle in heels, yeah,Which is, which is.
(08:23):
That's the fun part. It's fun, but like, but like.
We've all been to a drag show. The floors are always wet.
We've seen this before. You know.
Exactly. Somebody has spelled their
modelos. Anyways, read this to me.
This is gonna be good. We're running along.
OK, so I so like this group has like a community page and it's a
probably like a couple 100 people.
(08:43):
None of them I've ever met before.
They're just like on I've seen their face maybe once or twice
on Zoom, but never exchanged like never talked to them like
in a one-on-one conversation. It's like you're all there
listening questions. So I post on the community page
like, hey, I'm looking for castability.
Tell me what you think. I posted this photo, which is
just like an arrangement of it'slike a headshot, something for
my wedding, OK, like just that, Like, you know, that's like
(09:04):
giving. Just for the listeners at home,
he's giving a little bit of of that Facebook movie energy and a
little bit Ted Lasso. Sure.
Yeah, yeah. So I have like half mustache,
half clean shaven T-shirt, T-shirt, suit, button down like
like kind of a variety of anything so.
A gorgeous 10 in every photo. I will say you're welcome.
(09:26):
Fuck I've just been waiting for no one said that on this
community page. No one said perfect page.
That's not where this is going, no.
OK, so this this woman who I know this because she's like
asked a question on this page isGerman full on like lives in
Germany is taking this class. Sydney, you know you're going to
get the truth from this woman. 'S exactly, exactly.
(09:47):
If you know Germans, like I knowGermans, it's they don't
sugarcoat. They'll tell you exactly what
they think, which is kind of thefirst.
So I will say before I even readthese, they're like, there's
some funny ones on here and they're like a little
disparaging of me a little bit, but I think she fucking nails
me, nails me to a fucking head. OK, so I'll read this.
So this is from Maria. I don't know.
(10:09):
You don't need to say her full name.
Hi Graham :) very nice pictures.I will try to find some
characters which came into my mind.
Usually people just give the actor names.
She, Maria chose to do somethinga little different.
So she has a annotated list veryorganized, as most Germans are.
First one the devoted father slash husband or single dad.
(10:30):
Wow. Pretty good single dad or or
single dad. So I'm devoted or I'm something
happening. I'm now single.
But you but I OK. I imagine that she's still
saying that you love your kids. Yes, so first one, devoted
father, single husband or singledad #2 good guy, loser.
It's sort of similar to the no thanks, sorry man persona that
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you have. I mean, this is someone.
Who's I don't think ever heard me speak.
Yeah, it's incredible that he. Has your number #2 This is a
list of eight things Good guy loser was. 2 Two of them all.
Right. Devoted father, A single dad.
Good guy. Loser.
The hero Slash the noble leader.OK.
OK, the noble. Leader, the noble leader.
(11:14):
I'm noble for hopeless romantic guy.
I see that. Yeah, yeah, a little smitten.
Yeah, you can get. You could.
You could play smitten. Yeah, I could.
Here's where they start getting descriptive.
Cool good looking guy but insecure underneath.
Whoa. Is she living with me?
Like what is but it's underneathfor husband with a dark secret
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parentheses like you would neverexpect.
Like I would never expect the dark secret is like like mail
fraud or something. Yeah, or like.
Like that's something I wouldn'texpect.
He sits on the toilet backwards like he just.
Straddles it and holds the bowl.Young lawyer who tried to get a
promotion in the law firm but can't get rid of his knife's
(11:59):
image. Oh, you got OK?
Yeah, trying to be a little morecut.
Throat So she's showing a littleprejudice towards lawyers here,
saying that most lawyers are bad.
So I couldn't get ahead because I'm too nice.
Actually, well, that kind of relates to this podcast doesn't.
It it does, there's only a couple more.
We'll get through it. Smart, good looking.
OK, so she's good looking. All right.
It's like all right, fishing there.
Come on. Smart, good looking.
(12:19):
Who is insane in the inside? OK, a lot of this like wow, you
have like a dark. Core Yeah, yeah, from the six
pictures I submitted. And then finally, this is a fun
one. A young police officer who
suffers with drugs or relationship problems.
Whoa, just go into cops. Maybe that helps a little bit or
(12:41):
gives you ideas. Cops that hit, that hit and and
shoot. Yeah, yeah.
Whoa. So Hollywood, if you're
listening, and we know we are, there's the characters I can
play. But that basically describes all
men. Yeah, good guy, loser.
Good guy, loser to cop, abusive cop, yeah, that is the whole
(13:01):
gamut of men yeah, yeah, yeah, I.
Think you just described all men, but yeah, anyways, that's
what a stranger said to me. I love that.
We should. We should have her on the
podcast. We should.
She can do you. She can do your.
Cast Whoa me next Me next. Send you the pictures.
Just like gay guy, I think. I think just normal gay guy.
I think just guy. Should we crack open one of
(13:25):
these cases? Let's crack open one of these
cases. Sent to us.
I would open that, but there's nothing in there.
Yeah, OK. So I'm going to sneak off to the
what is it called Studio City, not Studio City table TV.
What do they call it where all the TV's are?
Value Village. No where all the TV's are on a
movie set. Value Village.
No, that's a thrift store TV village.
(13:47):
Island village TV Island Value Villages Yeah TV Island.
TVTV Island, I'm going to sneak off to TV Island.
I'm going to listen to this voicemail.
I'll be right back, never been on set.
Hi, my name is Lincoln, I live in Los Angeles and my upsetness
(14:11):
phrase is how many times must I request rightfully earn Venmo
money before I just have to rob?You.
Thank you. Oh.
Hey, hey Carl, how was the how was the weekend?
(14:31):
The weekend, The weekend was great.
I mean it was very low key. Really.
Yeah. You went that busy?
Not, not super busy. Oh, how about you, Jamie?
What'd you do? Oh, you know, I, I, I took the
kids to the pool soccer game on Saturday.
It's not that busy either, huh? No, I was, I was pretty busy
actually. I I didn't notice one thing when
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we went out for tacos on lunch on Thursday.
Yeah. I I sent you a Venmo for $24.14.
Did you did you get that? I I don't know, I probably might
have gotten it. I I for sure sent it do do you
want me to hit remind on it or would you be able?
(15:14):
To pull up the phone right now. Listen, you're reminding me now.
You don't have to hit Remind on on the app.
I'm sure the Apple remind me at some point.
OK. Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah. No, no, no.
Cool. Yeah, so like.
Not a big deal, by the way. Not a big deal.
Oh yeah, I didn't take it as a big deal.
It's tacos, you know? Yeah, yeah.
Maybe I'll just like grab you next time.
It doesn't even matter. Those kids.
The what? Don't grab, can you?
I? I would prefer if you didn't
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grab me next time. What do you what do you mean?
Like, because like, yes, you could, you know, buy tacos next
time, but who's to say that we get the exact same order?
Is that important? It doesn't seem that important.
I guess what I'm saying is that.We have the same job, we're
coworkers. I know you get paid plenty of
money so that like we don't haveto make a big deal about.
Tacos, yes, yes. And by the way, did were you
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able to respond to Judith about?No, I thought you were going to.
Oh. OK, yeah, I guess I can, but
since I'm doing that for you, you could.
Do that because I really like, Idon't really feel like going
through my emails right now. Yeah, emails are the worst.
They are the worst. But they do sometimes send you
notifications if you have like aVenmo request.
(16:20):
Did you happen to? Did I see the?
I don't think I saw that. I don't think I saw one do.
You have your phone on you. I I do, I always have my phone
on me. I'm.
Just, I'm just trying to pay someone else on Venmo, and so
I'd like to have your Venmo go through some, yeah.
I mean I I don't have it downloaded right now to be
honest. It does the thing where.
You don't have it downloaded. Well I mean it's it it does the
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thing where it like if you haven't used it in long enough
it like deletes itself and then you have to re download it after
a certain amount of time. It's an Apple feature and as an
Android user I understand if youwouldn't have understand these
sort of like more advanced features.
OK, I don't think I'm logged in right now and I I probably
forgot my password. And you don't have cash on you.
I I no, actually don't don't. Do I look like a stripper to
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you? I know I don't.
Know no, no no. You just look like a guy owes me
$24.00. All right, all rise for Lincoln
from Los Angeles. Thank you, Lincoln.
I think I know what this one's about.
(17:28):
I think you know this Lincoln too.
I think I definitely know this one.
He's an honest Abe. He's a good.
He's a good One thing that I know about Lincoln is I, I
applaud him for his honesty. Yes, and and he was honest for
this one. What do you think it is?
I think it's how how to respond to Venmo requests, Yes, Like how
what how long of a grace period do you give people?
(17:53):
Yeah, essentially I, I think his, his phrase was how long
until I need to hunt them down and rob them?
Sure. Which I, which, yes, he's very
witty. And that would be the line of
like, I, I really need this money back.
Yeah. As for the the source I like, I
am very, pardon me, I am pretty like on top of it, if I get a
(18:14):
pay request on Venmo, we've we've been in organizations
where we've all had to chip in. Many, many organizations.
Many, many organizations. We have to chip in.
Basically, I'm talking about an improv troop, but I was too
embarrassed to say that. But two improv Troops.
Troops. Yeah, yeah, exactly.
So I try to be like on top of it, like right away when it
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comes to that type of stuff. It's just like I want clean
accounting. But if someone didn't respond to
mine, I don't like I'd I I thinkit would take me a little while
to hunt them down. It would take until the next
Venmo request that I have to send.
Yes. I don't think I would notice,
(18:57):
right? Away.
Yeah, it's funny because huntingthem down does involve some
asserted effort on the requesters part, which.
OK, So Well, first let me ask you this.
Do you have Venmo notifications turned on?
Yeah, absolutely. OK, I do too.
Yeah. So normally when I see that it's
just like a. You can even answer it from the
little drop down. You only have to go into Venmo.
You don't even have to touch it.Yeah.
(19:18):
But I think that this begs the bigger question of like,
somebody owes you a paltry amount of money in Venmo, it's
usually a paltry amount of money.
Sometimes. Sometimes you're sending bigger.
Amount I pay my I pay them. We pay our rent on Venmo.
So that's it? Are you kidding?
Oh yeah, that's a big one. Can you even do that all in one
chunk? Yeah, I thought it, oh, I
thought it was like a few 100 bucks was like the most you
could. Apparently not.
(19:38):
Wow, yeah. I think, I think when we when
our landlord, he does do things by the book, clearly he accepts
Venmo. So but no, we he like said, oh,
Venmo is fine. And we were like, I don't think
he knows what he's talking about.
But the first one we tried is, yeah.
OK. All right.
Talking 4 figures here folks, because we live in fucking Los
Angeles. Where that is insane, it's not
(19:59):
less than 1000. Dollars.
Certainly not. I wish.
Be cool, but I think this has more to do with just like paltry
sums of money. When do you chase someone down
to to get to get the amount of money?
In my mind, it's probably I probably give people too long a
(20:21):
leash. Yeah, because then I will be
like, they fucking owe me money.And you like.
Do you want to be annoying? Yeah, I would hate to be
annoying and to be like to like remind someone that money's
involved is like a little bit. Reminder.
The reminder thing is, is, is big because like do do you know,
like when it's been like a couple of days, if you're the
(20:43):
requester, you can go in and click remind them and then we'll
send them another notification. I did not know that it's oh you
did hassle aggressive thing I'veever heard.
Of right, It's a feature. No, it's a feature.
Oh yeah. Holy smokes, I have never been
reminded. Let me just start there,
listeners. I've never been reminded of.
AI and listeners, let me say I've thought about reminding
Neil a couple times and I was like, he, he, he, he doesn't.
(21:06):
Need to be. I thought I was really.
Good. No, you are very good.
OK. I think so.
Great. Yeah.
Great. No, no, you're doing you're
doing great. You're you're always you're
always first. But it is, it is a weird thing
that it's like clicking Remind, clicking the button that says
Remind, and sending somebody a second notification.
Not even just two notifications.Sort of.
The second one is almost more heinous than hunting them down
(21:29):
and robbing. Them I mean it's it's it's the
it's the fake book Facebook poke.
Do you remember the poke where it was like, I don't have
anything to say I'm just going to poke you to remind you I
exist. Yeah, that was insane feature
and I think got removed probablyin like 2010.
Because they're like this started out as annoying and it.
Is and it continues to be annoying and it it just becomes
(21:55):
the most like passive aggress. It's the opposite though,
because the Facebook poke you were trying to just get
attention in general and this you're just trying to like slide
under the radar in general and make it seem like an automated,
like a no the computer needs. It OK, yes, that's what I'm
getting is like shouldn't Venmo just have an automated like
after five days it just sends a reminder.
(22:17):
That would be that would be the ultimate of both because it
would mean like, oh, I'm so sorry that you got this.
Like, hey, you're reminder you're a player.
Hello, poor person. Hello.
We need more money. Yeah, we need more money.
That doesn't make the requester fuel passive aggressive, right?
The sender, the the receivee knows.
(22:37):
Like, OK, yeah, I do. A debt must be paid.
Yep. There's a reason for this debt.
And then, and then all the hate goes to the Venmo Corporation,
which you know. I think that's that's fine for
90% of cases, but there is also that 10% who you just want to be
passive aggressive to and you'veearned it.
You've earned the right to be passive aggressive and just be
(22:58):
like remind. Yes.
And might I even heighten that situation?
There's some situations where like and now we're just delving
into deeper relationships, but sometimes the Venmo request is
the last contact between two people and so the so.
Like one of them dies. No, like they just don't like,
(23:19):
like they don't hang out. Anymore or like like like.
Say, say, as a first date, you split the check and then see
some way, but then like that demo is just stuck out there in
the ether and they're still a debt.
So like, sometimes it's a reminder.
Of a of a relationship. Of a relationship.
So sometimes it's just like, OK,let's let's you settle your
debts and then we can just go our separate ways.
(23:40):
Honestly, I would love to see all the messages.
I would love to make poetry out of the messages that are left on
unpaid Venmo pay requests. Yeah, that would be a beautiful
book. Maybe they just start commenting
below so you can comment on Venmo now too.
Beautiful. My aunt likes my Venmo.
She treats her Venmo feed like social media like, and she'll
(24:07):
even like the most. Misappropriated social features
I've ever heard. Of and it's like, I mean, she's
got stuff. Well, maybe she doesn't have
much stuff going on, but she's got stuff going on.
Like she'll like there'll even be times where we'll see each
other IRL and she'll be like, oh, did you have fun at the
Dodgers game? I'm like, what?
And then she'll be like, then MO.
And I was like, all right. Oh God, that makes me deeply
(24:27):
uncomfortable. Well, you know, it does seem
like surveillance state, but it's like not it's probably also
is the government, but also likeit's just your elders who don't
have anything better to do than to like peruse Venmo.
But to be fair, I've done it. It's all your Facebook friends.
I think they somehow connected. They connected that early on,
but I've definitely scrolled through Venmo just to see what
other people are paying. Oh, they're hanging out, Yeah.
(24:50):
It's wild. Yeah.
So I think to answer your thank you for the great case, Lincoln.
Oh my God, you're a genius. Fantastic, can't believe we
haven't covered before. Venmo culture is is could really
be its own series. To answer your question, how
long do you have to wait? I would.
I'll give you some homework. I need you to e-mail
(25:11):
venmo.info@venmo.com and tell them to put in a five day just
automated reminder. Well, I think the answer is in
that thing though. It's five days.
Five days, Yeah, it's five days.If if we want the feature to be
a five day auto reminder, then it's 5 days.
Well, I, I guess I would push itto I, I want a five day
reminder, but you have a week because if they're taking five
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days to respond to the first notification, let's give them
two more days to respond to the second notification.
So I think. And then what?
You so five day auto reminder and then yes, 7th day.
And then you can. On the 7th day he robbed.
Yeah. And then, yeah, I actually
really like that after a week, you can rob them for the exact,
like, monetary value of the Yeah, No, no, like you can't
like take their, you can't take their Nintendo 64.
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Just if they owe you 5 bucks, yeah, that's crazy.
Yeah, Which is? The most expensive thing I can
think of because I'm 13 years. Old A Nintendo 64?
Oh yes, those are outdated. They sure are.
Anyways, I think this is case closed.
Case closed. Yeah.
Ready. Should we do one more?
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Let's do another one. Hi, I'm Carrie and I'm from
Austin. And my question is, is it OK to
break up with someone simply because they use bad?
Grammar. Chelsea.
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What's up? I'm afraid that we need to talk.
Oh, Oh no. Oh, Oh no.
We it, I was gonna say don't worry about it.
It's not. Oh, no.
But it is. Oh no, unfortunately.
Oh no. Yeah, listen, the past six
months have been really lovely. Yeah, I, I, we met on Hinge.
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I love the fact that I finally got a first date at Griffith
Observatory because it always seemed like that sort of classic
LA experience that that we'd geta first date there.
But I am afraid that we're gonnahave to end things.
OK. And written in the stars that
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you saw at Griffith Observatory.Absolutely not.
It was. It was not written in the stars.
It was. It's definitely just you.
OK, that doesn't make me feel very good.
I how do I say this better? It's just me.
Well. What it What about just me Is
just it? I don't want to continue this
relationship anymore because I think it's fair that you get
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some feedback, you know? So I'm gonna tell you why.
It feels like the feedback's gonna be a bit unfair, just how
you're how you're setting it up.Well, I mean.
The. How I'm setting it up.
Yeah, OK, That was actually correct grammar.
But oftentimes you don't use good grammar, Chelsea.
What I'm talking about you. See, that's what I mean.
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OK, that was. Come on.
I know, I know you're. Dale, that was a joke, that was.
Emotional state I. Have a pretty good sense of
humor. You do have a pretty good sense
of humor and that is not why we're going to break up.
But like when you say things like when you when you mistake
how and what for each other. When I oh.
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Like it just drives me crazy. Exactly.
Exactly. But how do you mean this?
Oh my God, how do you mean this is good, but how do you mean is
not? Is this the only thing you want
to break up with me about? It unfortunately yes, but.
OK, so it wasn't it wasn't it wasn't the dinners I buy you or
the blow jobs I give you. I was going to say that.
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Or the the football games I takeyou to.
And the foot rubs you give me, those have all been wonderful.
But I think that I can get thoseand get great grammar from
another girl. And as an Angelino, I have my
pick of the litter. Well, as an Angelino, you're
you're I'm just so upset. This is so mean.
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I can't even think about a generalization about Los
Angelenos that would support my point.
See, you just had excellent grammar for throughout that
whole sentence complaining aboutthis, but I know that underneath
the surface you're going to, I'mgoing to be able to.
Hear your ox. What did this come up?
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All rise for the Honorable Carrie from Austin.
Oh, hello, Carrie. Hi, Carrie.
Thanks for calling. Wow, We were just really getting
across the US at these calls. We.
Sure are. It's because we have such wide
appeal, yes. So what do you think?
I think the the case. I think it is breaking up with
somebody because of their bad grammar.
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That's. Exactly what it was.
OK. Was there any ultimatums that
Gary include any sort of like? That's that's it.
It was just an open question forthat.
I don't think I've broken up with somebody over grammar.
Yeah. But my name is Graham I.
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It. But The thing is though, I could
see how it would be annoying. Yes.
And here's here's what I think is that like I think I would I
think I would do it how? Would the grammar have to be?
I think I have. OK.
OK, I have definitely like, not necessarily grammar.
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Grammar is part of the bigger package, though.
Grammar suggests super poor. Grammar suggests that you have
like a disregard for like intellectual pursuits.
It suggests you don't read. And it also suggests that you
don't really care about communication.
Right. Like you like how how you
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communicate, you don't care how it's received.
It's just they make of this whatyou will.
And I'm just going to, like, throw out nouns and verbs and
all. And it, it, it doesn't on it.
Like, I will give people a lot of slack for, like, a while.
But at a certain point, like, you have to prove to me that
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there's something going on behind your eyes.
If we're going to, like, date. I'm OK fucking a dumb guy.
Of course, who doesn't love it. Yeah.
But that's when that's how I've gotten most of.
Most of the notches on my belt. That's fine, but I do think that
I do. I have AI have a certain
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threshold that I think that people that I date really do
have to meet when it comes to just like the broader
intellectual curiosity, it suggests an uncurious person.
Yes, I have for sure broken up with people over curiosity.
Curiosity 100%. Do you have an example?
Not that I want to share with ona national podcast.
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We have listeners in Texas. We.
Have listeners all my half of myexes but we live in Texas.
Is that the new Beyoncé song Half my exes?
In Texas, Yeah. And it's got like a sexier beat
than the original, Yeah. But yet, no, I do, I definitely
have. I mean, obviously it's, it's
like you said, it's, it's part of a greater package, but you
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can't date somebody you have a hard time having a conversation
with. Right, right.
And if, if this is like so, I know I know who Carrie is, who's
the caller and I know well. Educated Gal.
She is a well educated gal. She's like literally brilliant.
Shout out. Carrie Austin, TX.
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And I have heard some of her dating horror stories, so this
doesn't surprise me a terrible amount.
And the fact that she's in Texas, A.
Lot of dumb studs. Dumb studs out in Texas.
Yeah, yeah. Especially Dallas.
I don't know if you've ever beento Dallas.
Huge, huge dongs. Oh, nothing upstairs.
(33:15):
Interesting. And it's fine.
We can move the energy down. The blood flow is going
elsewhere. Yeah, it's going elsewhere, but.
Huge dogs in Dallas. Huge.
That's why Debbie does it. That's why Debbie does Dallas.
Yeah, it's exactly that's why. That's why Debbie does it.
That's why Debbie does Dallas. But I'm sure there are plenty of
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like broadly intellectual peoplein Dallas with.
Small penises, yeah. With small penises.
But I haven't. I don't know them.
Don't. Really want to get to know them.
But I think it's always OK to break up with someone due to bad
grammar, yeah? I, I think it's do I think?
I think you don't need to tell them.
Because somebody with bad grammar is going to take that as
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an offense. Right, it's going to it's going
to suddenly you're Snooty, but Ithink it's OK to be sort of
Snooty I. Think it's OK to be Snooty?
It's OK to be Snooty, but it's also OK to gently lie to
somebody. To preserve their feelings.
Yes. Gram, you know you're speaking
wisdom. Now I'm speaking Dallas.
Yeah. Or not Dallas.
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Yeah, 'cause they have the bad grammar.
Yeah, I, I think. I don't think you need a good
reason to break up with someone.No.
And I think, I think, I think grammar's fine because if it's
something that bothers you, what, Like if it bothers you
that much, you don't want to spend time with that person, so
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stop wasting your life. And honestly, you're going to
make them miserable too. Yeah, because you have to like,
look at them patiently and beinglike, oh, yes, yes.
Oh, no, You mean Gelsen's not Vons.
Oh, OK. Well, that yeah, I, I also, I
have had a friend of mine had a girlfriend who was The Who spoke
so slowly that I couldn't handletalking to her.
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I've broken up with friends for speaking slowly.
Oh my gosh, there's there's liketaking your time and then
there's just like, wow, there's a loading screen between every
word. It's yeah.
And it's like every story that they tell has no payoff.
Not it could have a really high payoff, but because it takes so
long to get there, that payoff is stretched out so thin that
it's like I spent the last 10 minutes hearing about how you
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had to get double bags at the grocery store.
I'm using all grocery store references today.
Well, I'm yes, you had to use, you had to pick up tomatoes and
crack pepper on the tomatoes andthey.
Didn't have the organic kind. Yeah, it's.
Brutality, and I think we're being really mean right now, and
I like us for it. I don't.
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I mean, I guess yeah, we are being Snooty.
We both have bachelor's degrees plus some plus some plus some.
But not but not finished. Not in English either.
Yeah, not in English. Did not write many papers in
mind. Yeah, I, I mean, I don't know,
I, I guess it's Snooty, but I also don't think it's mean for
us to be like, if this is something you want and a friend
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or partner, then that's something you want.
And generally, intellectual curiosity is pretty high.
Yeah, and also be curious if youcan't.
Even if you're dumb, as long as you're curious, that's
endearing. Oh, I have lots of very dumb.
Friends Curious George was a complete.
Idiot. Yeah, but he was so charming and
so. Curious so many books written
about him. I have none written about me.
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Anyways, I think case closed on this one.
Yeah, case closed. Double gavel.
Love is love. Love is love.
Hey, Graham. I have so much hair in my mouth.
No, do it. I want to.
I want to open more I I need more greedy.
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Hello, this is Stanley from Oconomowoc, WI and I was
wondering if candies candy sizesshould be required to have new
fun names like fun size you know?
Why are we only letting one sizebe fun and all the rest of them
have boring names? I'd like to know.
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Bing bong Bing bong Bing bong Bing.
Bong coming, coming. Hello.
Trick or treat? Look at you, cutie patootie.
Trick or treat some on my feet, give me something good to eat.
Well, I have some Reese's Peanutbutter cups for you.
Oh, you have the fun size. I have the fun size and I have
one pack of regular size, but you don't get it because that's
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for my grandson. Do you have any exceptional
size? The house down the street was
given out of the exceptional size.
Like the king size. No, no, no.
That that. Comes in bigger than.
King. No, Culver City has king size,
but yeah, down the street they have exceptional size, and
that's not even the biggest. It's not the there's what's
bigger than exception. I didn't realize.
Here's the thing. I love to treat my grandson and
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I wanted to give him a king sizeReese's Peanut Buttercup, Did
ya? I not yet.
He hasn't shown up. He's.
Shown up for years? OK, I don't really have the
emotional capacity to care aboutwhat you're going through right
now, but if you haven't heard about exceptional size candy
bars, that means that you definitely don't have humongous
size. OK, OK, I feel a little bit
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taken for a ride by this. You don't have humongous size
is. The tiny Captain America is
yelling at me. OK, well I guess I'll take some
fun sizes. Here's your fun size Reese's do.
You seem like a guy who was probably brought up on molecular
size candy bars, huh? You don't have a lot of joy in
your life. You've probably been eating the
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smallest ones. I have a bowl of werders that I
have been munching on. Well, werders werders Werders
are fine. Werthers Werthers Werthers are
are are are are nickel sized. They're nickel sized candy.
Yes they are. Would you like 1?
No. Do I look like I'm above the age
of 70? Well, OK, I'm sorry, kid.
(39:15):
OK, so I guess just a couple funsize Reese's cuts.
I already put some in your weirdlittle oh, red, white and blue
Captain America bucket. Yeah, it's his shield, but I
guess because they're fun size, I didn't even feel the weight of
them hit my bag. Oh.
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My God, you can have one more. OK, you can have one more.
And then you got to get out of here for my grandson to come by.
Sorry TP Ed your house. What?
Bye before you rise. Actually, no.
While you rise, as you rise, please rise to Stanley from
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Wisconsin. Thank you, Stanley from
Wisconsin. So what do you think Stanley's
etiquette case he's proposing is?
I think that he ungrateful trickor treaters.
You would think that's all I got.
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You would think, you would thinkfor I'm I'm going to see if I
can lead a horse to water here. You're the horse in the
situation. I'm the Columbia River, which is
famously a freshwater river, as we all know.
Columbia River, Yeah. Are there, I mean.
All rivers are freshwater anyways.
Good point. No, it's it's it would be more
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to do with the thing that they're not.
It doesn't have to do with trickor treaters, but something that
trick or treater would be concerned with or would be
thinking about. The the quality or the like
commenting on this quality or size of a gift.
Yes, size of candy. Size of candy.
Yes, candy, candy specific. This is a candy specific case.
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OK, I should just let you know. So Stanley is concerned that
they have what's called fun size, but then there's no other
fun sizes, if that makes sense. So you call there's fun size
candy bars, but all the other candy bars just get regular ass
names, which I will argue with Stanley.
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I think king size is king. Size is yes.
A little whimsical. It's king.
Well I I was referring to a realsize of candy when I was
bringing up king size candy. Yes, you immediately took the
other real size of candy I knew,so I can no longer use that in
the scene and I had to invent myown candy sizes.
I liked exceptional and humongous.
Yeah. I mean, I think that I think
that a regular candy bar should be two of it should be the
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second of five sizes of candy going up.
OK, so is regular, is that an actual candy size regular?
Well, I mean, it's just like size, size undisclosed.
But no, I think regular is abovefun.
I think fun is fun is the littlelike grab mag.
Yeah, yeah. And there's minis too, but
that's just. Minis.
That's self. Explanatory.
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That's like very, very small. That's like a little squid,
yeah. So I don't know.
I don't know. Here's The thing is that I think
it's OK that we have fun size. I think it's OK that we have
have an assortment of other lesscommon sizes and that we have
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basically an an unsized piece ofcandy.
I don't know if we need to change I I'm OK with the status
quo in this case, I think. OK, so but I'm.
Not a huge candy advocate, nor am I particularly against.
I'm pretty neutral on candy. I would say and and
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unfortunately for a listener, Stanley, I'm a little neutral on
candy too. What?
Do we do? But I do like the whimsy of his
question because it does seem a little unfair that one is fun
and the what are the rest not fun.
Here's what I will. Here's what I will say is that
like, they could do this. They could apply the logic of
making something that is worse sound better.
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Yeah, they the, and I think people do make that sound like
economy. Airlines comes to mind where
it's like, OK, you call it economy.
So that I will be like this is agood deal.
Yeah, right. Yeah.
It's weird that that the travel industry has just made economy
synonymous with cheap. Yes.
(43:32):
And so economy travel is supposed to give you the warm
fuzzies of like, oh wow, I didn't spend too much on this
when in fact it's just very expensive and shitty.
Yeah, I thought the economy is economy is the worst.
It's the worst class. Well then, then they invented
basic economy. Oh wow.
(43:54):
Right. That's twist the knife.
And if you're different airlineshave different names for it,
you've got main cabin, which suddenly they made the the sort
of they added shittier seats to a normal seam.
Main, yeah, Main is plus, yeah. And then plus is extra.
And as long as they keep moving this stuff around, I feel like
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they can make all the seats a little smaller.
And then I think what first was is now business and then they
bumped first up. First is now above business.
I don't know. I think it depends on the.
So I, I guess are we talking ourselves into that?
There should be some regulation on the on some I think.
We might be, yeah, I think, I think the, the, the candiness,
I've got a little caught up on the candiness of it and not on
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the unfairness of naming something that comes in multiple
qualities or sizes. Like don't try and sugar coat
it. Actually, actually sugar coat it
cuz it's candy, but sugar coat the candy.
Don't sugar coat the name of thecandy.
There it is. Well, I made word plate.
I got there. And he had great grammar doing
it. Thank you.
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Yeah, I think it's, I think it'sfine to have a little more fun
with the candy sizes. I like that the candies don't do
like the Starbucks like Vente Grande.
That is just unforgivable. Where it just all means big.
It's just all large. Yep, that's unforgivable.
Well, fun kind of means large. Yeah, but it's small though.
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But it's small, that's what I'm saying.
Like they're lying to us. And they think, do candies have
a party size or is that just chips?
I think party sizes, if they there are many fun sizes in one
bag, that's what I imagine a party and then.
It's party. Yeah, 'cause you have a lot of
fun. Wow.
Yeah, I mean, that is party. A lot of fun.
So actually I think fuck all, I've totally changed.
(45:39):
Fun, yeah. We have really done a 180, yeah.
Fuck all of that naming miss, miss naming shit.
Yeah, it should just be like 60%of a Twix.
Yeah, that's what they have to call it.
They have to call it 20% of a normal crunch bar.
Yeah, they should. Yeah, they really should be
standardized. So we're.
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So I think Stanley actually wanted more fun candy names.
And we're just, we're just. Like actually no, we need.
To put it on like the metric system, we need to be a
universal size thing. So it's a unit.
So it's yes, exactly units. We need units of candy.
We need units of candy. Absolutely.
I completely agree. I also feel this way about a lot
of clothing sizes. Female Female Jean sizes are
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fucking nuts. That could be a whole document.
Yeah, I don't even know I. Don't know.
Oh, it's there's it goes zero to20, but then there's also double
zeros and then like A5 at the gap is different than A5 at
banana public. It's a whole thing.
Well, the other place that we need some regulation is on
sizing. Naming of sizing is like toilet
paper rolls. Oh yeah, it's like 24X 22 is 3/5
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is 9. No, it should be advertised as
just a bunch of like nonsensicalmath.
Yeah, on a double ply for four times the role in half the size.
And it's just like, what are youtalking?
About and you know what I reallydon't like now they're on the
topic of toilet paper sizes is they always have the little
graphic on the packaging where it's like 2 small roles equals
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one of our roles Yeah. And it's a little picture of
like 2 dinky roles and then likea big role.
But it's like that's not relative to anything.
You just drew that on there. That doesn't tell me anything
about the fucking size of the toilet paper roll.
Right, unless you have shitty tiny toilet papers, but.
Tell me how many shits. Yeah, tell me how many shits I'm
going to take with this roll andthen I'll tell you whether I
want to buy it or. Not well, That's all relative
(47:26):
too. That's OK, let's not go crazy.
Open up. Open up a box.
Yeah, Yeah. I think we need to potentially
just say case closed on this before we get to.
Carry for sure. But just say yes, we need to
start a committee to create the metric unit, the metric system
for consumer goods. I agree.
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I think that's a ruling. And thank you, Stanley from
Wisconsin for calling in. We may not we it may not be the
ruling you were looking for, buthey, that's the law, baby.
Listen, Yeah. And we're in charge.
Yes, Sorry. Fuck off.
Case closed. All right?
Case closed. I am so full after that
(48:13):
delicious case, but I would lovesome dessert.
OK. Let's get some.
Hello, this is Brian from Hopkins, MN and I'd like to know
should it be illegal to greet people with a question when you
have no intent on hearing the answer IE like hey how you
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doing? I want to know should it be
illegal? Thank you.
Pauline. Hey.
Pauline, you how have you been? Oh, I've, I've, I've, you know,
keeping staying hanging in there.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I've been doing all right.
(48:56):
I I I feel hydrated. Say we really need to get these
I I was hoping that I could get new washer fluid for my car.
OK, so I'm just going to go. Into my garage, yeah.
If you don't mind, I'm gonna go get something out of there.
OK, you're off. All right, say.
(49:17):
Pauline, where do you get the washer fluid?
It's in the blue bottle underneath the tool cabinet, OK.
Yeah, I got it. Here.
I got it. Yeah.
Yeah. Great.
See How are the kids? Kids are good, they're both in
school. And I really need to fill up my
car, so I'm going to with this stuff.
So I'm going to just go out to the front front yard and do
(49:39):
that. I parked in your driveway.
I hope you. Know my Oh, OK, Yeah, yeah,
yeah. That's all you came by for.
Well, listen, and I, you know what?
I just wanted to hear how you'redoing.
Yeah, again. Well, I mean, I could be better.
Sure, there's you. Know what I'm getting A text.
Oh, OK. Oh.
My gosh, you know what? It's my bank.
(50:01):
So, you know, I've actually beenhaving troubles with my bank.
I'm I'm trying to secure a loan.Oh yeah, what for?
An RV, We're going to buy an RV,so we need a loan for that.
We're thinking about, I think once the kids are in college,
we're going to go camp. We're going to go camping more.
Pauline, I really, I'm so sorry.I hate to cut you off, I'm so
(50:21):
sorry to cut you off, but I really do have to go.
I. I'm such a such a talker with
the kids gone in school now I just it feels like it's an
empty. House close over.
Only seven more weeks until Thanksgiving break.
(50:43):
All rise for Brian from Hopkins.Brian from Hopkins.
Yeah. Hopkins, MN.
Oh. It's a suburb.
Thank you, Brian from Hopkins. Eastern suburbs of the Twin
Cities, I believe it's eastern southeastern, I believe so.
Where are the Twin Cities? Minneapolis.
Saint Paul. You got it.
It's one of those questions where it's like, I'm going to
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feel dumb asking it, so I got tohave my best guess right after
the question. But it's a problem when your
best guess is wrong and then youreally feel stupid.
Is it almost like you asked the question not caring what the
answer was? Almost, almost.
It's almost. It's almost that.
Yeah. It's almost that.
Yeah. Yeah.
OK. Thank you Brian from Hopkins.
I believe this case file concerns.
(51:31):
I wish I had a more eloquent wayof saying this, cushioning a
favor with a personal with asking them how they are.
Listen, you're very close, OK? It's asking somebody a question
like how are you, How are the kids, blah blah blah, and
knowing that you don't actually care about the answer.
(51:53):
OK. Right, it's it's just about the
question. So I used it to be.
I used the the washer fluid as away to interrupt.
You're saying 'cause I did not care about the.
OK, so that has nothing to do with asking a neighbor for
something. Nope.
It has nothing to do with the favors.
Just asking a question. Yeah.
Do we need to regulate that? Should that be legal?
(52:14):
Boy, this is a big one. Yes.
Because I'm sure that everybody's been on both sides
of this. Yeah, I think so.
I mean, there's no, I'm just going to stick with the because
you started with the how are you's like, how you been?
Yes. I think I think you're you're
(52:37):
you're crazy if you've never said how are you just as like a
formality, not like been actually interested in that
person's life. That's mostly true.
I feel like more than asking howthis person actually is, it's
more just like a way to. Start a conversation Yes, yes, I
think that's that could be wherethe.
It's like you're going to say something and then I can.
Yes. And it, you know, which I think
(53:00):
is fine. Yeah, I think that's totally OK.
Yeah, I mean, there is some likedisingenuity to it.
Right, because I'm not asking you how you are, I'm asking you
to like, provide the conversation with a topic that
we can like, jump off. It is, yeah, it is, yeah.
Because that is kind of it is sort of a jump off question
(53:21):
because that's kind of like how back when I was first learning
how to date, that was kind of like the go to move was just
like what what's another question I can ask to like to
like just spark the next part ofthe conversation, right.
Just so I don't, I don't care what the answer of the question
is. It's just where can this answer
take us? Like move on from it, Yeah.
Which I think you need some utility questions.
(53:43):
For sure, yeah. And like, maybe I actually,
maybe you're going to say something that makes me care
about how you are. You know, maybe it's really bad
and there's something I can do about it and I maybe I'll have
empathy for you. Maybe, maybe, maybe.
Anyways, I think they're OK. Yeah, I think it's to ask a
question that. That you don't care about the
(54:04):
answer to. Yeah, it it shouldn't be all of
your questions. Listen, we're not.
One must be curious. One must be curious and be
willing to listen for an answer,but I think that when you're
asking how are you as a way to being like, OK, let's get
something on the table that we can both start playing with as
conversation. You are listening, actually,
(54:27):
yeah. So maybe this is doing it wrong
where it's just like. It's like a passive active
thing. Yeah, maybe I'm changing my own
mind again. This hurts.
Oh. Flip flop, flip flop.
We've done this a few. Times today already.
Yeah. Well, it's, I mean it, is it?
Well, I think that to Brian fromHopkins point, it's not really
(54:49):
an open to shut case. This could be, this could almost
be a hung, I think because we'reflip flopping on this a little
bit. It could be a hungry because I
can see how in a lot of situations it would be
disrespectful. And here at premeditated
studios, Law Offices, we respectRESPECT, but however, sometimes
(55:12):
they are kind of necessary. I think that they're pretty
unnecessary. It's, it's like a weird social
buffer where it's just like you kind of have to, yeah, you have
to like bump against the, the, the bumpers on the side a little
bit to get going down and, you know.
Pick up some steam. Well, I was doing bowling
analogy. Fuck.
The bump with. The bump I think you were doing
go karts analogies. Oh, I did.
(55:33):
Yeah, that is, Yeah. I, I was doing a go Kart
movement, but in my mind I was going down the alley.
I was going down one lane. So I was going, I was hitting
off the sides. You know, I went bowling
recently. Get out of town, I How is
bowling? Yeah, no, it hurts.
It hurts when it's happening. OK, OK, maybe there should be
(55:54):
some regulation. I got 5 strikes in a row and I
am bad at bowling. I had so many points.
That was crazy. That's a Turkey plus 2/3 of a
Turkey. 2 Turkey plus 2/3 of a Turkey.
Wow, 166% of a Turkey. Exactly.
I just wanted to brag a little bit because.
Like what? What frames were they?
One through 5 they were. Like in the middle it was like
it was like 4 through 9 or something.
(56:14):
That's like 5 in a row though. I could not believe it.
I still don't like fully understand how bowling points
add up. I know that it's like strike,
it's like +2 frames before in spares plus one.
That's a lot of points. It's a ton of points.
That's more than 50 points. Because it adds 30 + 30 + 30 +
20 + 10, right? That is 9090 A. 100.
(56:34):
And 10120. 90 + 2030 plus yeah 120.
You got it. You got it.
Yeah. Anyways, I think we need them.
Yeah, I think, I think they it'skind of like I was about to say
guns. I don't believe that it's yeah,
it's it's like, it's sort of like a slightly dirty thing, but
(56:57):
you also kind of you should have.
Yeah, you got to have. Them sports gambling, maybe
we'll do that. A sports gam you don't have to
have. I'm trying to think of something
that's like. I've never sports gambled in my
life. I have been fine.
I've made it this far. It's fun.
It does sound. Kind of fun, yeah.
It's like one of those things where it's like if, because if
we don't allow it, then society itself crumbles around us, I
(57:19):
think. Because people aren't asking how
other people are. People aren't initiating
conversations. Yeah, exactly.
Male loneliness goes further than it is right now.
And that is one of our most sincerest causes here at and.
That's why we are not lonely males, no.
No, no, no, no. Case closed.
Case closed. That was incredible.
(57:45):
Nothing like a long day at the courthouse to really burn some
calories. Exactly, I feel like I am going
to wake up skinny. Tomorrow I'm going to wake up
skinny and I'm going to wake up well informed on all the latest
and hottest social issues. This is kitchen table politics.
Yes, and it could not have been done without our listeners.
(58:07):
We love you all and there's so many more that I think that we
should take a break here and potentially pick it back up next
week. Yeah, our phone lines are
lighting up as we speak. It's incredible.
Mm hmm. We love our listeners.
We love our listeners. Thank you guys.
We'll see you guys next week. Bye bye.
This is premeditated.
Well, I often times I'll go and I'll sleep on the little like
couch thing that I have in the other room if I can't sleep in
the bedroom. I'll the day bed, the day bed.
Yeah, I'll, I'll swap it up to the day bed, even if I'm like
here alone, you know. It is, yeah.
I think it's just like a change.I look, it's just it's almost
like the reset. Button.
Yeah, the problem is that like I'm so close to the one O one
that it's so loud in that room. Oh yeah, the one.
(00:22):
It's just. God, shut up.
It's like. Who even needs to drive this
late at night? And who's right riding a Harley?
Yeah. At 2:00 in the morning.
Listen to motorcycle riders get get your 8 hours, you know, get
some, get some sleep. Yeah, exactly.
You need to be frosty because you're in danger.
Frosty, frosty like fresh if. If you stay frosty, it means you
(00:44):
stay alert. You're not familiar with this
idiom. Not used in that way, no.
I'll start using it though. It would be good if you did.
This is premeditated. The podcast investigating
society's unwritten laws and theheinous ways they're broken.
True crime, low stakes. I'm Neil, I'm Graham, and this
(01:10):
is. Premeditated.
Hello, America. Stars and Stripes.
It's good to see you again. I've been missing you.
I've been thinking about Americaall day long.
Oh, it's it's all night. The first thing in my head when
I wake up. It's yeah, it's the last thing
(01:30):
in my. Head US of gosh darn A.
And all the all the gorgeous people from this great wide
country. And why?
I'm also thinking about why not everyone is listening to
Premeditated. That is something I also think
about. When I wake up in the morning.
Yeah, exactly why not? The nice thing is that the
(01:54):
people who are listening are premeditated, have been sending
us their cases. Oh, they've been listening.
They've been listening, they've been talking, they've been
active listeners, they've been active listeners.
They listen and they respond. And they respond to ADC number.
Yes, because we we are. I mean, we're such.
Headquarters in Washington. DC Americans, we have to go to
(02:16):
this podcast. Must be in the capital.
We are the justices of, I mean, we're like a law, law making
body. Yeah.
Certainly we're in arm of the government.
Oh yeah, two arms. You know what?
I I this brings up a good point,Graham.
It's astonishing to me be this doing this podcast now for as
(02:38):
long as we've been doing it has shown me how little I know about
the legal system. But who?
Does anybody know anything? Does anyone?
Think about the legal who? Can even make a complete
sentence come out of their mouth.
I can. I can barely do it.
But like, so I, you know, I've thought about this too, because
it's like I'm once we get into like the YouTube comment level
(02:59):
of fame. Where if someone leaves a
YouTube comment which? We're almost there.
We're just about there. But like, once people start like
commenting, being like, these guys are wrong, you should drive
on the left side of the road, blah, blah, blah, I can't
believe how wrong they are. And like really giving it back
to us. I challenge those future
listeners. Show me one judge that has
gotten every case right. No one knows.
(03:21):
No one knows what they're doing.People are holding us to such a
high standard exactly. They they expect 100% accuracy,
like moral accuracy from our rulings, and I don't think
that's something that we can provide.
I don't think that's something the judicial system provides.
Like, like, there's never been acase where both parties walked
away and we're like, yeah, that was fair.
We both treated pretty fairly. Yeah, I feel pretty good about
(03:43):
that. Like what divorced couple going
through splitting up their Beanie Babies?
Divorced people aren't happy. They're unhappy.
Well, they're doing something that probably makes them
happier, maybe, but I think the.Which is getting divorced.
Yeah. Yeah.
Oh, I see. Yeah, Like in the long run.
Yeah, I don't think happy couples divorce.
Sure, that's probably true. There's some, but again, some
(04:05):
might be. Some happy couples might
divorce. There could be extenuating
circumstances and those are the circumstances that we really get
into on this podcast. We do what?
When is it appropriate, You know, and everything's
appropriate at some point. Yeah, there's got to be a line
somewhere. There's lines all over the place
and they are not straight lines.And Speaking of lines, our phone
lines have been open. Oh my God.
(04:26):
And we have voicemails from dozens of listeners from twos of
countries. From twos maybe?
Even threes of countries. Do we have any Canadians in
there? Probably.
Yeah, I know for a fact that we have at least one other country.
Oh, I hope they have an accent. Oh.
I bet they do. But here's the thing.
Neither of us have listened to any of these voicemails.
(04:47):
I haven't heard any of these. Yeah, so they're all a mystery
to me. All I know is that they exist.
All we know have confirmed that they've left.
Yeah. All we know is that our producer
Matt has listened to them and that so we know they exist, but
I have no idea what the contentsthese case files create.
It's kind of a zero knowledge proof.
Yeah, it's gonna be fun, but oneof us is going to listen to it.
(05:07):
We'll take turns. Do you want to take turns?
I think it'll probably be you. Every single time.
Every voicemail. What?
No, it's like only you could open presents on Christmas.
Yeah, but I want to. I want to watch.
OK, so yeah, we're going to taketurns or maybe I'll have, I'll
do two turns, then you have one turn.
Sure, fair enough. And then I will get the little
secret you're. Going to hear the whole
(05:29):
voicemail. I'll hear the whole voicemail.
Oh, I'm going to be laughing andyou won't be able to know what
I'm. Laughing.
I have no idea. That I'm going to bring up an
improv scene with you, and I want you to react not as Neil
Zumwald would, but as I want your reaction to be informed by
the character you so choose. OK, I mean I can I can I can
create a character at will. So if you step into a scene as
(05:51):
a, let's say I'm just spit on here of 16th century night, OK,
I need you to respond like a 15th century night.
So I go back 100. Years, correct.
OK, this is this is how you knowit's going to be a good podcast
when I can't remember what century I said.
You said 2 seconds ago, yeah, sothe, so we're talking, we're
(06:12):
going like, I actually don't know when the Black Plague was.
I was going to make a Black Plague joke because it happened
I think in the 1400s. Yeah, no one who lived through
it can tell us. Yeah, there were no survivors
because they've all died since. Yeah.
But first, actually, before we get to calls, I have a fun
little thing I've been meaning to read to you.
Oh my gosh, you have something to read?
(06:33):
I have something to read to you speaking actually Speaking of
YouTube comments. This is a comment I got on a
social media community forum page post.
OK, so I have been, this is, this is exciting.
So I have been doing a it's likean online course about like
it's, you're trying to find likean agent or manager.
(06:55):
And so it's basically like a a coach throughout that coaching
you through that process. And so one of the things.
Agent to get an agent. Agent yes, exactly.
Well put. I maybe this is a pyramid
scheme. So one of the things you have to
do is to figure out your cast ability.
So it's like the sort of like rule of thumb is like what
actors could you step in and play the role?
(07:16):
So like a lot of it when you think about casabe, it's like
who do you look like? What kind of like voices or you
know, like what so. For me, that would be like a
Laura Dern. Exactly.
That would be like a like a likemaybe a Laura Linney.
It would be a Laura. Oh, Laura, Yeah, for sure.
Laura. Yes, exactly.
Those are. 2 Some blonde Laura. I can step in and fill those.
(07:38):
She her name's not Laura, but you could do the AMC Welcome to
AMC movie theaters. Nicole Kidman, yes.
Yeah, I'm getting some Kidman. Vibe OK just quick before you
read this. I don't understand that world.
Like gay men freak out every time that AMC commercial.
It's not just gay men. It's not just gay men.
(07:59):
It's like it's everybody in the movie theatre, but like gay men.
Maybe those are the people that whose group texts that I am in,
but they will talk about it and I'm like, I don't understand
what is so special. It's so weird to be swept away
by a commercial. Yeah, a little commercial.
I mean, I get the part of it that I do get is that she does
step in a puddle in heels, yeah,Which is, which is.
(08:23):
That's the fun part. It's fun, but like, but like.
We've all been to a drag show. The floors are always wet.
We've seen this before. You know.
Exactly. Somebody has spelled their
modelos. Anyways, read this to me.
This is gonna be good. We're running along.
OK, so I so like this group has like a community page and it's a
probably like a couple 100 people.
(08:43):
None of them I've ever met before.
They're just like on I've seen their face maybe once or twice
on Zoom, but never exchanged like never talked to them like
in a one-on-one conversation. It's like you're all there
listening questions. So I post on the community page
like, hey, I'm looking for castability.
Tell me what you think. I posted this photo, which is
just like an arrangement of it'slike a headshot, something for
my wedding, OK, like just that, Like, you know, that's like
(09:04):
giving. Just for the listeners at home,
he's giving a little bit of of that Facebook movie energy and a
little bit Ted Lasso. Sure.
Yeah, yeah. So I have like half mustache,
half clean shaven T-shirt, T-shirt, suit, button down like
like kind of a variety of anything so.
A gorgeous 10 in every photo. I will say you're welcome.
(09:26):
Fuck I've just been waiting for no one said that on this
community page. No one said perfect page.
That's not where this is going, no.
OK, so this this woman who I know this because she's like
asked a question on this page isGerman full on like lives in
Germany is taking this class. Sydney, you know you're going to
get the truth from this woman. 'S exactly, exactly.
(09:47):
If you know Germans, like I knowGermans, it's they don't
sugarcoat. They'll tell you exactly what
they think, which is kind of thefirst.
So I will say before I even readthese, they're like, there's
some funny ones on here and they're like a little
disparaging of me a little bit, but I think she fucking nails
me, nails me to a fucking head. OK, so I'll read this.
So this is from Maria. I don't know.
(10:09):
You don't need to say her full name.
Hi Graham :) very nice pictures.I will try to find some
characters which came into my mind.
Usually people just give the actor names.
She, Maria chose to do somethinga little different.
So she has a annotated list veryorganized, as most Germans are.
First one the devoted father slash husband or single dad.
(10:30):
Wow. Pretty good single dad or or
single dad. So I'm devoted or I'm something
happening. I'm now single.
But you but I OK. I imagine that she's still
saying that you love your kids. Yes, so first one, devoted
father, single husband or singledad #2 good guy, loser.
It's sort of similar to the no thanks, sorry man persona that
(10:54):
you have. I mean, this is someone.
Who's I don't think ever heard me speak.
Yeah, it's incredible that he. Has your number #2 This is a
list of eight things Good guy loser was. 2 Two of them all.
Right. Devoted father, A single dad.
Good guy. Loser.
The hero Slash the noble leader.OK.
OK, the noble. Leader, the noble leader.
(11:14):
I'm noble for hopeless romantic guy.
I see that. Yeah, yeah, a little smitten.
Yeah, you can get. You could.
You could play smitten. Yeah, I could.
Here's where they start getting descriptive.
Cool good looking guy but insecure underneath.
Whoa. Is she living with me?
Like what is but it's underneathfor husband with a dark secret
(11:36):
parentheses like you would neverexpect.
Like I would never expect the dark secret is like like mail
fraud or something. Yeah, or like.
Like that's something I wouldn'texpect.
He sits on the toilet backwards like he just.
Straddles it and holds the bowl.Young lawyer who tried to get a
promotion in the law firm but can't get rid of his knife's
(11:59):
image. Oh, you got OK?
Yeah, trying to be a little morecut.
Throat So she's showing a littleprejudice towards lawyers here,
saying that most lawyers are bad.
So I couldn't get ahead because I'm too nice.
Actually, well, that kind of relates to this podcast doesn't.
It it does, there's only a couple more.
We'll get through it. Smart, good looking.
OK, so she's good looking. All right.
It's like all right, fishing there.
Come on. Smart, good looking.
(12:19):
Who is insane in the inside? OK, a lot of this like wow, you
have like a dark. Core Yeah, yeah, from the six
pictures I submitted. And then finally, this is a fun
one. A young police officer who
suffers with drugs or relationship problems.
Whoa, just go into cops. Maybe that helps a little bit or
(12:41):
gives you ideas. Cops that hit, that hit and and
shoot. Yeah, yeah.
Whoa. So Hollywood, if you're
listening, and we know we are, there's the characters I can
play. But that basically describes all
men. Yeah, good guy, loser.
Good guy, loser to cop, abusive cop, yeah, that is the whole
(13:01):
gamut of men yeah, yeah, yeah, I.
Think you just described all men, but yeah, anyways, that's
what a stranger said to me. I love that.
We should. We should have her on the
podcast. We should.
She can do you. She can do your.
Cast Whoa me next Me next. Send you the pictures.
Just like gay guy, I think. I think just normal gay guy.
I think just guy. Should we crack open one of
(13:25):
these cases? Let's crack open one of these
cases. Sent to us.
I would open that, but there's nothing in there.
Yeah, OK. So I'm going to sneak off to the
what is it called Studio City, not Studio City table TV.
What do they call it where all the TV's are?
Value Village. No where all the TV's are on a
movie set. Value Village.
No, that's a thrift store TV village.
(13:47):
Island village TV Island Value Villages Yeah TV Island.
TVTV Island, I'm going to sneak off to TV Island.
I'm going to listen to this voicemail.
I'll be right back, never been on set.
Hi, my name is Lincoln, I live in Los Angeles and my upsetness
(14:11):
phrase is how many times must I request rightfully earn Venmo
money before I just have to rob?You.
Thank you. Oh.
Hey, hey Carl, how was the how was the weekend?
(14:31):
The weekend, The weekend was great.
I mean it was very low key. Really.
Yeah. You went that busy?
Not, not super busy. Oh, how about you, Jamie?
What'd you do? Oh, you know, I, I, I took the
kids to the pool soccer game on Saturday.
It's not that busy either, huh? No, I was, I was pretty busy
actually. I I didn't notice one thing when
(14:53):
we went out for tacos on lunch on Thursday.
Yeah. I I sent you a Venmo for $24.14.
Did you did you get that? I I don't know, I probably might
have gotten it. I I for sure sent it do do you
want me to hit remind on it or would you be able?
(15:14):
To pull up the phone right now. Listen, you're reminding me now.
You don't have to hit Remind on on the app.
I'm sure the Apple remind me at some point.
OK. Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah. No, no, no.
Cool. Yeah, so like.
Not a big deal, by the way. Not a big deal.
Oh yeah, I didn't take it as a big deal.
It's tacos, you know? Yeah, yeah.
Maybe I'll just like grab you next time.
It doesn't even matter. Those kids.
The what? Don't grab, can you?
I? I would prefer if you didn't
(15:35):
grab me next time. What do you what do you mean?
Like, because like, yes, you could, you know, buy tacos next
time, but who's to say that we get the exact same order?
Is that important? It doesn't seem that important.
I guess what I'm saying is that.We have the same job, we're
coworkers. I know you get paid plenty of
money so that like we don't haveto make a big deal about.
Tacos, yes, yes. And by the way, did were you
(15:57):
able to respond to Judith about?No, I thought you were going to.
Oh. OK, yeah, I guess I can, but
since I'm doing that for you, you could.
Do that because I really like, Idon't really feel like going
through my emails right now. Yeah, emails are the worst.
They are the worst. But they do sometimes send you
notifications if you have like aVenmo request.
(16:20):
Did you happen to? Did I see the?
I don't think I saw that. I don't think I saw one do.
You have your phone on you. I I do, I always have my phone
on me. I'm.
Just, I'm just trying to pay someone else on Venmo, and so
I'd like to have your Venmo go through some, yeah.
I mean I I don't have it downloaded right now to be
honest. It does the thing where.
You don't have it downloaded. Well I mean it's it it does the
(16:44):
thing where it like if you haven't used it in long enough
it like deletes itself and then you have to re download it after
a certain amount of time. It's an Apple feature and as an
Android user I understand if youwouldn't have understand these
sort of like more advanced features.
OK, I don't think I'm logged in right now and I I probably
forgot my password. And you don't have cash on you.
I I no, actually don't don't. Do I look like a stripper to
(17:06):
you? I know I don't.
Know no, no no. You just look like a guy owes me
$24.00. All right, all rise for Lincoln
from Los Angeles. Thank you, Lincoln.
I think I know what this one's about.
(17:28):
I think you know this Lincoln too.
I think I definitely know this one.
He's an honest Abe. He's a good.
He's a good One thing that I know about Lincoln is I, I
applaud him for his honesty. Yes, and and he was honest for
this one. What do you think it is?
I think it's how how to respond to Venmo requests, Yes, Like how
what how long of a grace period do you give people?
(17:53):
Yeah, essentially I, I think his, his phrase was how long
until I need to hunt them down and rob them?
Sure. Which I, which, yes, he's very
witty. And that would be the line of
like, I, I really need this money back.
Yeah. As for the the source I like, I
am very, pardon me, I am pretty like on top of it, if I get a
(18:14):
pay request on Venmo, we've we've been in organizations
where we've all had to chip in. Many, many organizations.
Many, many organizations. We have to chip in.
Basically, I'm talking about an improv troop, but I was too
embarrassed to say that. But two improv Troops.
Troops. Yeah, yeah, exactly.
So I try to be like on top of it, like right away when it
(18:36):
comes to that type of stuff. It's just like I want clean
accounting. But if someone didn't respond to
mine, I don't like I'd I I thinkit would take me a little while
to hunt them down. It would take until the next
Venmo request that I have to send.
Yes. I don't think I would notice,
(18:57):
right? Away.
Yeah, it's funny because huntingthem down does involve some
asserted effort on the requesters part, which.
OK, So Well, first let me ask you this.
Do you have Venmo notifications turned on?
Yeah, absolutely. OK, I do too.
Yeah. So normally when I see that it's
just like a. You can even answer it from the
little drop down. You only have to go into Venmo.
You don't even have to touch it.Yeah.
(19:18):
But I think that this begs the bigger question of like,
somebody owes you a paltry amount of money in Venmo, it's
usually a paltry amount of money.
Sometimes. Sometimes you're sending bigger.
Amount I pay my I pay them. We pay our rent on Venmo.
So that's it? Are you kidding?
Oh yeah, that's a big one. Can you even do that all in one
chunk? Yeah, I thought it, oh, I
thought it was like a few 100 bucks was like the most you
could. Apparently not.
(19:38):
Wow, yeah. I think, I think when we when
our landlord, he does do things by the book, clearly he accepts
Venmo. So but no, we he like said, oh,
Venmo is fine. And we were like, I don't think
he knows what he's talking about.
But the first one we tried is, yeah.
OK. All right.
Talking 4 figures here folks, because we live in fucking Los
Angeles. Where that is insane, it's not
(19:59):
less than 1000. Dollars.
Certainly not. I wish.
Be cool, but I think this has more to do with just like paltry
sums of money. When do you chase someone down
to to get to get the amount of money?
In my mind, it's probably I probably give people too long a
(20:21):
leash. Yeah, because then I will be
like, they fucking owe me money.And you like.
Do you want to be annoying? Yeah, I would hate to be
annoying and to be like to like remind someone that money's
involved is like a little bit. Reminder.
The reminder thing is, is, is big because like do do you know,
like when it's been like a couple of days, if you're the
(20:43):
requester, you can go in and click remind them and then we'll
send them another notification. I did not know that it's oh you
did hassle aggressive thing I'veever heard.
Of right, It's a feature. No, it's a feature.
Oh yeah. Holy smokes, I have never been
reminded. Let me just start there,
listeners. I've never been reminded of.
AI and listeners, let me say I've thought about reminding
Neil a couple times and I was like, he, he, he, he doesn't.
(21:06):
Need to be. I thought I was really.
Good. No, you are very good.
OK. I think so.
Great. Yeah.
Great. No, no, you're doing you're
doing great. You're you're always you're
always first. But it is, it is a weird thing
that it's like clicking Remind, clicking the button that says
Remind, and sending somebody a second notification.
Not even just two notifications.Sort of.
The second one is almost more heinous than hunting them down
(21:29):
and robbing. Them I mean it's it's it's the
it's the fake book Facebook poke.
Do you remember the poke where it was like, I don't have
anything to say I'm just going to poke you to remind you I
exist. Yeah, that was insane feature
and I think got removed probablyin like 2010.
Because they're like this started out as annoying and it.
Is and it continues to be annoying and it it just becomes
(21:55):
the most like passive aggress. It's the opposite though,
because the Facebook poke you were trying to just get
attention in general and this you're just trying to like slide
under the radar in general and make it seem like an automated,
like a no the computer needs. It OK, yes, that's what I'm
getting is like shouldn't Venmo just have an automated like
after five days it just sends a reminder.
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That would be that would be the ultimate of both because it
would mean like, oh, I'm so sorry that you got this.
Like, hey, you're reminder you're a player.
Hello, poor person. Hello.
We need more money. Yeah, we need more money.
That doesn't make the requester fuel passive aggressive, right?
The sender, the the receivee knows.
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Like, OK, yeah, I do. A debt must be paid.
Yep. There's a reason for this debt.
And then, and then all the hate goes to the Venmo Corporation,
which you know. I think that's that's fine for
90% of cases, but there is also that 10% who you just want to be
passive aggressive to and you'veearned it.
You've earned the right to be passive aggressive and just be
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like remind. Yes.
And might I even heighten that situation?
There's some situations where like and now we're just delving
into deeper relationships, but sometimes the Venmo request is
the last contact between two people and so the so.
Like one of them dies. No, like they just don't like,
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like they don't hang out. Anymore or like like like.
Say, say, as a first date, you split the check and then see
some way, but then like that demo is just stuck out there in
the ether and they're still a debt.
So like, sometimes it's a reminder.
Of a of a relationship. Of a relationship.
So sometimes it's just like, OK,let's let's you settle your
debts and then we can just go our separate ways.
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Honestly, I would love to see all the messages.
I would love to make poetry out of the messages that are left on
unpaid Venmo pay requests. Yeah, that would be a beautiful
book. Maybe they just start commenting
below so you can comment on Venmo now too.
Beautiful. My aunt likes my Venmo.
She treats her Venmo feed like social media like, and she'll
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even like the most. Misappropriated social features
I've ever heard. Of and it's like, I mean, she's
got stuff. Well, maybe she doesn't have
much stuff going on, but she's got stuff going on.
Like she'll like there'll even be times where we'll see each
other IRL and she'll be like, oh, did you have fun at the
Dodgers game? I'm like, what?
And then she'll be like, then MO.
And I was like, all right. Oh God, that makes me deeply
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uncomfortable. Well, you know, it does seem
like surveillance state, but it's like not it's probably also
is the government, but also likeit's just your elders who don't
have anything better to do than to like peruse Venmo.
But to be fair, I've done it. It's all your Facebook friends.
I think they somehow connected. They connected that early on,
but I've definitely scrolled through Venmo just to see what
other people are paying. Oh, they're hanging out, Yeah.
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It's wild. Yeah.
So I think to answer your thank you for the great case, Lincoln.
Oh my God, you're a genius. Fantastic, can't believe we
haven't covered before. Venmo culture is is could really
be its own series. To answer your question, how
long do you have to wait? I would.
I'll give you some homework. I need you to e-mail
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venmo.info@venmo.com and tell them to put in a five day just
automated reminder. Well, I think the answer is in
that thing though. It's five days.
Five days, Yeah, it's five days.If if we want the feature to be
a five day auto reminder, then it's 5 days.
Well, I, I guess I would push itto I, I want a five day
reminder, but you have a week because if they're taking five
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days to respond to the first notification, let's give them
two more days to respond to the second notification.
So I think. And then what?
You so five day auto reminder and then yes, 7th day.
And then you can. On the 7th day he robbed.
Yeah. And then, yeah, I actually
really like that after a week, you can rob them for the exact,
like, monetary value of the Yeah, No, no, like you can't
like take their, you can't take their Nintendo 64.
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Just if they owe you 5 bucks, yeah, that's crazy.
Yeah, Which is? The most expensive thing I can
think of because I'm 13 years. Old A Nintendo 64?
Oh yes, those are outdated. They sure are.
Anyways, I think this is case closed.
Case closed. Yeah.
Ready. Should we do one more?
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Let's do another one. Hi, I'm Carrie and I'm from
Austin. And my question is, is it OK to
break up with someone simply because they use bad?
Grammar. Chelsea.
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What's up? I'm afraid that we need to talk.
Oh, Oh no. Oh, Oh no.
We it, I was gonna say don't worry about it.
It's not. Oh, no.
But it is. Oh no, unfortunately.
Oh no. Yeah, listen, the past six
months have been really lovely. Yeah, I, I, we met on Hinge.
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I love the fact that I finally got a first date at Griffith
Observatory because it always seemed like that sort of classic
LA experience that that we'd geta first date there.
But I am afraid that we're gonnahave to end things.
OK. And written in the stars that
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you saw at Griffith Observatory.Absolutely not.
It was. It was not written in the stars.
It was. It's definitely just you.
OK, that doesn't make me feel very good.
I how do I say this better? It's just me.
Well. What it What about just me Is
just it? I don't want to continue this
relationship anymore because I think it's fair that you get
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some feedback, you know? So I'm gonna tell you why.
It feels like the feedback's gonna be a bit unfair, just how
you're how you're setting it up.Well, I mean.
The. How I'm setting it up.
Yeah, OK, That was actually correct grammar.
But oftentimes you don't use good grammar, Chelsea.
What I'm talking about you. See, that's what I mean.
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OK, that was. Come on.
I know, I know you're. Dale, that was a joke, that was.
Emotional state I. Have a pretty good sense of
humor. You do have a pretty good sense
of humor and that is not why we're going to break up.
But like when you say things like when you when you mistake
how and what for each other. When I oh.
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Like it just drives me crazy. Exactly.
Exactly. But how do you mean this?
Oh my God, how do you mean this is good, but how do you mean is
not? Is this the only thing you want
to break up with me about? It unfortunately yes, but.
OK, so it wasn't it wasn't it wasn't the dinners I buy you or
the blow jobs I give you. I was going to say that.
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Or the the football games I takeyou to.
And the foot rubs you give me, those have all been wonderful.
But I think that I can get thoseand get great grammar from
another girl. And as an Angelino, I have my
pick of the litter. Well, as an Angelino, you're
you're I'm just so upset. This is so mean.
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I can't even think about a generalization about Los
Angelenos that would support my point.
See, you just had excellent grammar for throughout that
whole sentence complaining aboutthis, but I know that underneath
the surface you're going to, I'mgoing to be able to.
Hear your ox. What did this come up?
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All rise for the Honorable Carrie from Austin.
Oh, hello, Carrie. Hi, Carrie.
Thanks for calling. Wow, We were just really getting
across the US at these calls. We.
Sure are. It's because we have such wide
appeal, yes. So what do you think?
I think the the case. I think it is breaking up with
somebody because of their bad grammar.
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That's. Exactly what it was.
OK. Was there any ultimatums that
Gary include any sort of like? That's that's it.
It was just an open question forthat.
I don't think I've broken up with somebody over grammar.
Yeah. But my name is Graham I.
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It. But The thing is though, I could
see how it would be annoying. Yes.
And here's here's what I think is that like I think I would I
think I would do it how? Would the grammar have to be?
I think I have. OK.
OK, I have definitely like, not necessarily grammar.
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Grammar is part of the bigger package, though.
Grammar suggests super poor. Grammar suggests that you have
like a disregard for like intellectual pursuits.
It suggests you don't read. And it also suggests that you
don't really care about communication.
Right. Like you like how how you
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communicate, you don't care how it's received.
It's just they make of this whatyou will.
And I'm just going to, like, throw out nouns and verbs and
all. And it, it, it doesn't on it.
Like, I will give people a lot of slack for, like, a while.
But at a certain point, like, you have to prove to me that
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there's something going on behind your eyes.
If we're going to, like, date. I'm OK fucking a dumb guy.
Of course, who doesn't love it. Yeah.
But that's when that's how I've gotten most of.
Most of the notches on my belt. That's fine, but I do think that
I do. I have AI have a certain
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threshold that I think that people that I date really do
have to meet when it comes to just like the broader
intellectual curiosity, it suggests an uncurious person.
Yes, I have for sure broken up with people over curiosity.
Curiosity 100%. Do you have an example?
Not that I want to share with ona national podcast.
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We have listeners in Texas. We.
Have listeners all my half of myexes but we live in Texas.
Is that the new Beyoncé song Half my exes?
In Texas, Yeah. And it's got like a sexier beat
than the original, Yeah. But yet, no, I do, I definitely
have. I mean, obviously it's, it's
like you said, it's, it's part of a greater package, but you
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can't date somebody you have a hard time having a conversation
with. Right, right.
And if, if this is like so, I know I know who Carrie is, who's
the caller and I know well. Educated Gal.
She is a well educated gal. She's like literally brilliant.
Shout out. Carrie Austin, TX.
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And I have heard some of her dating horror stories, so this
doesn't surprise me a terrible amount.
And the fact that she's in Texas, A.
Lot of dumb studs. Dumb studs out in Texas.
Yeah, yeah. Especially Dallas.
I don't know if you've ever beento Dallas.
Huge, huge dongs. Oh, nothing upstairs.
(33:15):
Interesting. And it's fine.
We can move the energy down. The blood flow is going
elsewhere. Yeah, it's going elsewhere, but.
Huge dogs in Dallas. Huge.
That's why Debbie does it. That's why Debbie does Dallas.
Yeah, it's exactly that's why. That's why Debbie does it.
That's why Debbie does Dallas. But I'm sure there are plenty of
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like broadly intellectual peoplein Dallas with.
Small penises, yeah. With small penises.
But I haven't. I don't know them.
Don't. Really want to get to know them.
But I think it's always OK to break up with someone due to bad
grammar, yeah? I, I think it's do I think?
I think you don't need to tell them.
Because somebody with bad grammar is going to take that as
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an offense. Right, it's going to it's going
to suddenly you're Snooty, but Ithink it's OK to be sort of
Snooty I. Think it's OK to be Snooty?
It's OK to be Snooty, but it's also OK to gently lie to
somebody. To preserve their feelings.
Yes. Gram, you know you're speaking
wisdom. Now I'm speaking Dallas.
Yeah. Or not Dallas.
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Yeah, 'cause they have the bad grammar.
Yeah, I, I think. I don't think you need a good
reason to break up with someone.No.
And I think, I think, I think grammar's fine because if it's
something that bothers you, what, Like if it bothers you
that much, you don't want to spend time with that person, so
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stop wasting your life. And honestly, you're going to
make them miserable too. Yeah, because you have to like,
look at them patiently and beinglike, oh, yes, yes.
Oh, no, You mean Gelsen's not Vons.
Oh, OK. Well, that yeah, I, I also, I
have had a friend of mine had a girlfriend who was The Who spoke
so slowly that I couldn't handletalking to her.
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I've broken up with friends for speaking slowly.
Oh my gosh, there's there's liketaking your time and then
there's just like, wow, there's a loading screen between every
word. It's yeah.
And it's like every story that they tell has no payoff.
Not it could have a really high payoff, but because it takes so
long to get there, that payoff is stretched out so thin that
it's like I spent the last 10 minutes hearing about how you
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had to get double bags at the grocery store.
I'm using all grocery store references today.
Well, I'm yes, you had to use, you had to pick up tomatoes and
crack pepper on the tomatoes andthey.
Didn't have the organic kind. Yeah, it's.
Brutality, and I think we're being really mean right now, and
I like us for it. I don't.
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I mean, I guess yeah, we are being Snooty.
We both have bachelor's degrees plus some plus some plus some.
But not but not finished. Not in English either.
Yeah, not in English. Did not write many papers in
mind. Yeah, I, I mean, I don't know,
I, I guess it's Snooty, but I also don't think it's mean for
us to be like, if this is something you want and a friend
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or partner, then that's something you want.
And generally, intellectual curiosity is pretty high.
Yeah, and also be curious if youcan't.
Even if you're dumb, as long as you're curious, that's
endearing. Oh, I have lots of very dumb.
Friends Curious George was a complete.
Idiot. Yeah, but he was so charming and
so. Curious so many books written
about him. I have none written about me.
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Anyways, I think case closed on this one.
Yeah, case closed. Double gavel.
Love is love. Love is love.
Hey, Graham. I have so much hair in my mouth.
No, do it. I want to.
I want to open more I I need more greedy.
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Hello, this is Stanley from Oconomowoc, WI and I was
wondering if candies candy sizesshould be required to have new
fun names like fun size you know?
Why are we only letting one sizebe fun and all the rest of them
have boring names? I'd like to know.
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Bing bong Bing bong Bing bong Bing.
Bong coming, coming. Hello.
Trick or treat? Look at you, cutie patootie.
Trick or treat some on my feet, give me something good to eat.
Well, I have some Reese's Peanutbutter cups for you.
Oh, you have the fun size. I have the fun size and I have
one pack of regular size, but you don't get it because that's
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for my grandson. Do you have any exceptional
size? The house down the street was
given out of the exceptional size.
Like the king size. No, no, no.
That that. Comes in bigger than.
King. No, Culver City has king size,
but yeah, down the street they have exceptional size, and
that's not even the biggest. It's not the there's what's
bigger than exception. I didn't realize.
Here's the thing. I love to treat my grandson and
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I wanted to give him a king sizeReese's Peanut Buttercup, Did
ya? I not yet.
He hasn't shown up. He's.
Shown up for years? OK, I don't really have the
emotional capacity to care aboutwhat you're going through right
now, but if you haven't heard about exceptional size candy
bars, that means that you definitely don't have humongous
size. OK, OK, I feel a little bit
(38:31):
taken for a ride by this. You don't have humongous size
is. The tiny Captain America is
yelling at me. OK, well I guess I'll take some
fun sizes. Here's your fun size Reese's do.
You seem like a guy who was probably brought up on molecular
size candy bars, huh? You don't have a lot of joy in
your life. You've probably been eating the
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smallest ones. I have a bowl of werders that I
have been munching on. Well, werders werders Werders
are fine. Werthers Werthers Werthers are
are are are are nickel sized. They're nickel sized candy.
Yes they are. Would you like 1?
No. Do I look like I'm above the age
of 70? Well, OK, I'm sorry, kid.
(39:15):
OK, so I guess just a couple funsize Reese's cuts.
I already put some in your weirdlittle oh, red, white and blue
Captain America bucket. Yeah, it's his shield, but I
guess because they're fun size, I didn't even feel the weight of
them hit my bag. Oh.
(39:35):
My God, you can have one more. OK, you can have one more.
And then you got to get out of here for my grandson to come by.
Sorry TP Ed your house. What?
Bye before you rise. Actually, no.
While you rise, as you rise, please rise to Stanley from
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Wisconsin. Thank you, Stanley from
Wisconsin. So what do you think Stanley's
etiquette case he's proposing is?
I think that he ungrateful trickor treaters.
You would think that's all I got.
(40:19):
You would think, you would thinkfor I'm I'm going to see if I
can lead a horse to water here. You're the horse in the
situation. I'm the Columbia River, which is
famously a freshwater river, as we all know.
Columbia River, Yeah. Are there, I mean.
All rivers are freshwater anyways.
Good point. No, it's it's it would be more
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to do with the thing that they're not.
It doesn't have to do with trickor treaters, but something that
trick or treater would be concerned with or would be
thinking about. The the quality or the like
commenting on this quality or size of a gift.
Yes, size of candy. Size of candy.
Yes, candy, candy specific. This is a candy specific case.
(41:02):
OK, I should just let you know. So Stanley is concerned that
they have what's called fun size, but then there's no other
fun sizes, if that makes sense. So you call there's fun size
candy bars, but all the other candy bars just get regular ass
names, which I will argue with Stanley.
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I think king size is king. Size is yes.
A little whimsical. It's king.
Well I I was referring to a realsize of candy when I was
bringing up king size candy. Yes, you immediately took the
other real size of candy I knew,so I can no longer use that in
the scene and I had to invent myown candy sizes.
I liked exceptional and humongous.
Yeah. I mean, I think that I think
that a regular candy bar should be two of it should be the
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second of five sizes of candy going up.
OK, so is regular, is that an actual candy size regular?
Well, I mean, it's just like size, size undisclosed.
But no, I think regular is abovefun.
I think fun is fun is the littlelike grab mag.
Yeah, yeah. And there's minis too, but
that's just. Minis.
That's self. Explanatory.
(42:05):
That's like very, very small. That's like a little squid,
yeah. So I don't know.
I don't know. Here's The thing is that I think
it's OK that we have fun size. I think it's OK that we have
have an assortment of other lesscommon sizes and that we have
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basically an an unsized piece ofcandy.
I don't know if we need to change I I'm OK with the status
quo in this case, I think. OK, so but I'm.
Not a huge candy advocate, nor am I particularly against.
I'm pretty neutral on candy. I would say and and
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unfortunately for a listener, Stanley, I'm a little neutral on
candy too. What?
Do we do? But I do like the whimsy of his
question because it does seem a little unfair that one is fun
and the what are the rest not fun.
Here's what I will. Here's what I will say is that
like, they could do this. They could apply the logic of
making something that is worse sound better.
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Yeah, they the, and I think people do make that sound like
economy. Airlines comes to mind where
it's like, OK, you call it economy.
So that I will be like this is agood deal.
Yeah, right. Yeah.
It's weird that that the travel industry has just made economy
synonymous with cheap. Yes.
(43:32):
And so economy travel is supposed to give you the warm
fuzzies of like, oh wow, I didn't spend too much on this
when in fact it's just very expensive and shitty.
Yeah, I thought the economy is economy is the worst.
It's the worst class. Well then, then they invented
basic economy. Oh wow.
(43:54):
Right. That's twist the knife.
And if you're different airlineshave different names for it,
you've got main cabin, which suddenly they made the the sort
of they added shittier seats to a normal seam.
Main, yeah, Main is plus, yeah. And then plus is extra.
And as long as they keep moving this stuff around, I feel like
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they can make all the seats a little smaller.
And then I think what first was is now business and then they
bumped first up. First is now above business.
I don't know. I think it depends on the.
So I, I guess are we talking ourselves into that?
There should be some regulation on the on some I think.
We might be, yeah, I think, I think the, the, the candiness,
I've got a little caught up on the candiness of it and not on
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the unfairness of naming something that comes in multiple
qualities or sizes. Like don't try and sugar coat
it. Actually, actually sugar coat it
cuz it's candy, but sugar coat the candy.
Don't sugar coat the name of thecandy.
There it is. Well, I made word plate.
I got there. And he had great grammar doing
it. Thank you.
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Yeah, I think it's, I think it'sfine to have a little more fun
with the candy sizes. I like that the candies don't do
like the Starbucks like Vente Grande.
That is just unforgivable. Where it just all means big.
It's just all large. Yep, that's unforgivable.
Well, fun kind of means large. Yeah, but it's small though.
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But it's small, that's what I'm saying.
Like they're lying to us. And they think, do candies have
a party size or is that just chips?
I think party sizes, if they there are many fun sizes in one
bag, that's what I imagine a party and then.
It's party. Yeah, 'cause you have a lot of
fun. Wow.
Yeah, I mean, that is party. A lot of fun.
So actually I think fuck all, I've totally changed.
(45:39):
Fun, yeah. We have really done a 180, yeah.
Fuck all of that naming miss, miss naming shit.
Yeah, it should just be like 60%of a Twix.
Yeah, that's what they have to call it.
They have to call it 20% of a normal crunch bar.
Yeah, they should. Yeah, they really should be
standardized. So we're.
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So I think Stanley actually wanted more fun candy names.
And we're just, we're just. Like actually no, we need.
To put it on like the metric system, we need to be a
universal size thing. So it's a unit.
So it's yes, exactly units. We need units of candy.
We need units of candy. Absolutely.
I completely agree. I also feel this way about a lot
of clothing sizes. Female Female Jean sizes are
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fucking nuts. That could be a whole document.
Yeah, I don't even know I. Don't know.
Oh, it's there's it goes zero to20, but then there's also double
zeros and then like A5 at the gap is different than A5 at
banana public. It's a whole thing.
Well, the other place that we need some regulation is on
sizing. Naming of sizing is like toilet
paper rolls. Oh yeah, it's like 24X 22 is 3/5
(46:45):
is 9. No, it should be advertised as
just a bunch of like nonsensicalmath.
Yeah, on a double ply for four times the role in half the size.
And it's just like, what are youtalking?
About and you know what I reallydon't like now they're on the
topic of toilet paper sizes is they always have the little
graphic on the packaging where it's like 2 small roles equals
(47:06):
one of our roles Yeah. And it's a little picture of
like 2 dinky roles and then likea big role.
But it's like that's not relative to anything.
You just drew that on there. That doesn't tell me anything
about the fucking size of the toilet paper roll.
Right, unless you have shitty tiny toilet papers, but.
Tell me how many shits. Yeah, tell me how many shits I'm
going to take with this roll andthen I'll tell you whether I
want to buy it or. Not well, That's all relative
(47:26):
too. That's OK, let's not go crazy.
Open up. Open up a box.
Yeah, Yeah. I think we need to potentially
just say case closed on this before we get to.
Carry for sure. But just say yes, we need to
start a committee to create the metric unit, the metric system
for consumer goods. I agree.
(47:47):
I think that's a ruling. And thank you, Stanley from
Wisconsin for calling in. We may not we it may not be the
ruling you were looking for, buthey, that's the law, baby.
Listen, Yeah. And we're in charge.
Yes, Sorry. Fuck off.
Case closed. All right?
Case closed. I am so full after that
(48:13):
delicious case, but I would lovesome dessert.
OK. Let's get some.
Hello, this is Brian from Hopkins, MN and I'd like to know
should it be illegal to greet people with a question when you
have no intent on hearing the answer IE like hey how you
(48:34):
doing? I want to know should it be
illegal? Thank you.
Pauline. Hey.
Pauline, you how have you been? Oh, I've, I've, I've, you know,
keeping staying hanging in there.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I've been doing all right.
(48:56):
I I I feel hydrated. Say we really need to get these
I I was hoping that I could get new washer fluid for my car.
OK, so I'm just going to go. Into my garage, yeah.
If you don't mind, I'm gonna go get something out of there.
OK, you're off. All right, say.
(49:17):
Pauline, where do you get the washer fluid?
It's in the blue bottle underneath the tool cabinet, OK.
Yeah, I got it. Here.
I got it. Yeah.
Yeah. Great.
See How are the kids? Kids are good, they're both in
school. And I really need to fill up my
car, so I'm going to with this stuff.
So I'm going to just go out to the front front yard and do
(49:39):
that. I parked in your driveway.
I hope you. Know my Oh, OK, Yeah, yeah,
yeah. That's all you came by for.
Well, listen, and I, you know what?
I just wanted to hear how you'redoing.
Yeah, again. Well, I mean, I could be better.
Sure, there's you. Know what I'm getting A text.
Oh, OK. Oh.
My gosh, you know what? It's my bank.
(50:01):
So, you know, I've actually beenhaving troubles with my bank.
I'm I'm trying to secure a loan.Oh yeah, what for?
An RV, We're going to buy an RV,so we need a loan for that.
We're thinking about, I think once the kids are in college,
we're going to go camp. We're going to go camping more.
Pauline, I really, I'm so sorry.I hate to cut you off, I'm so
(50:21):
sorry to cut you off, but I really do have to go.
I. I'm such a such a talker with
the kids gone in school now I just it feels like it's an
empty. House close over.
Only seven more weeks until Thanksgiving break.
(50:43):
All rise for Brian from Hopkins.Brian from Hopkins.
Yeah. Hopkins, MN.
Oh. It's a suburb.
Thank you, Brian from Hopkins. Eastern suburbs of the Twin
Cities, I believe it's eastern southeastern, I believe so.
Where are the Twin Cities? Minneapolis.
Saint Paul. You got it.
It's one of those questions where it's like, I'm going to
(51:04):
feel dumb asking it, so I got tohave my best guess right after
the question. But it's a problem when your
best guess is wrong and then youreally feel stupid.
Is it almost like you asked the question not caring what the
answer was? Almost, almost.
It's almost. It's almost that.
Yeah. It's almost that.
Yeah. Yeah.
OK. Thank you Brian from Hopkins.
I believe this case file concerns.
(51:31):
I wish I had a more eloquent wayof saying this, cushioning a
favor with a personal with asking them how they are.
Listen, you're very close, OK? It's asking somebody a question
like how are you, How are the kids, blah blah blah, and
knowing that you don't actually care about the answer.
(51:53):
OK. Right, it's it's just about the
question. So I used it to be.
I used the the washer fluid as away to interrupt.
You're saying 'cause I did not care about the.
OK, so that has nothing to do with asking a neighbor for
something. Nope.
It has nothing to do with the favors.
Just asking a question. Yeah.
Do we need to regulate that? Should that be legal?
(52:14):
Boy, this is a big one. Yes.
Because I'm sure that everybody's been on both sides
of this. Yeah, I think so.
I mean, there's no, I'm just going to stick with the because
you started with the how are you's like, how you been?
Yes. I think I think you're you're
(52:37):
you're crazy if you've never said how are you just as like a
formality, not like been actually interested in that
person's life. That's mostly true.
I feel like more than asking howthis person actually is, it's
more just like a way to. Start a conversation Yes, yes, I
think that's that could be wherethe.
It's like you're going to say something and then I can.
Yes. And it, you know, which I think
(53:00):
is fine. Yeah, I think that's totally OK.
Yeah, I mean, there is some likedisingenuity to it.
Right, because I'm not asking you how you are, I'm asking you
to like, provide the conversation with a topic that
we can like, jump off. It is, yeah, it is, yeah.
Because that is kind of it is sort of a jump off question
(53:21):
because that's kind of like how back when I was first learning
how to date, that was kind of like the go to move was just
like what what's another question I can ask to like to
like just spark the next part ofthe conversation, right.
Just so I don't, I don't care what the answer of the question
is. It's just where can this answer
take us? Like move on from it, Yeah.
Which I think you need some utility questions.
(53:43):
For sure, yeah. And like, maybe I actually,
maybe you're going to say something that makes me care
about how you are. You know, maybe it's really bad
and there's something I can do about it and I maybe I'll have
empathy for you. Maybe, maybe, maybe.
Anyways, I think they're OK. Yeah, I think it's to ask a
question that. That you don't care about the
(54:04):
answer to. Yeah, it it shouldn't be all of
your questions. Listen, we're not.
One must be curious. One must be curious and be
willing to listen for an answer,but I think that when you're
asking how are you as a way to being like, OK, let's get
something on the table that we can both start playing with as
conversation. You are listening, actually,
(54:27):
yeah. So maybe this is doing it wrong
where it's just like. It's like a passive active
thing. Yeah, maybe I'm changing my own
mind again. This hurts.
Oh. Flip flop, flip flop.
We've done this a few. Times today already.
Yeah. Well, it's, I mean it, is it?
Well, I think that to Brian fromHopkins point, it's not really
(54:49):
an open to shut case. This could be, this could almost
be a hung, I think because we'reflip flopping on this a little
bit. It could be a hungry because I
can see how in a lot of situations it would be
disrespectful. And here at premeditated
studios, Law Offices, we respectRESPECT, but however, sometimes
(55:12):
they are kind of necessary. I think that they're pretty
unnecessary. It's, it's like a weird social
buffer where it's just like you kind of have to, yeah, you have
to like bump against the, the, the bumpers on the side a little
bit to get going down and, you know.
Pick up some steam. Well, I was doing bowling
analogy. Fuck.
The bump with. The bump I think you were doing
go karts analogies. Oh, I did.
(55:33):
Yeah, that is, Yeah. I, I was doing a go Kart
movement, but in my mind I was going down the alley.
I was going down one lane. So I was going, I was hitting
off the sides. You know, I went bowling
recently. Get out of town, I How is
bowling? Yeah, no, it hurts.
It hurts when it's happening. OK, OK, maybe there should be
(55:54):
some regulation. I got 5 strikes in a row and I
am bad at bowling. I had so many points.
That was crazy. That's a Turkey plus 2/3 of a
Turkey. 2 Turkey plus 2/3 of a Turkey.
Wow, 166% of a Turkey. Exactly.
I just wanted to brag a little bit because.
Like what? What frames were they?
One through 5 they were. Like in the middle it was like
it was like 4 through 9 or something.
(56:14):
That's like 5 in a row though. I could not believe it.
I still don't like fully understand how bowling points
add up. I know that it's like strike,
it's like +2 frames before in spares plus one.
That's a lot of points. It's a ton of points.
That's more than 50 points. Because it adds 30 + 30 + 30 +
20 + 10, right? That is 9090 A. 100.
(56:34):
And 10120. 90 + 2030 plus yeah 120.
You got it. You got it.
Yeah. Anyways, I think we need them.
Yeah, I think, I think they it'skind of like I was about to say
guns. I don't believe that it's yeah,
it's it's like, it's sort of like a slightly dirty thing, but
(56:57):
you also kind of you should have.
Yeah, you got to have. Them sports gambling, maybe
we'll do that. A sports gam you don't have to
have. I'm trying to think of something
that's like. I've never sports gambled in my
life. I have been fine.
I've made it this far. It's fun.
It does sound. Kind of fun, yeah.
It's like one of those things where it's like if, because if
we don't allow it, then society itself crumbles around us, I
(57:19):
think. Because people aren't asking how
other people are. People aren't initiating
conversations. Yeah, exactly.
Male loneliness goes further than it is right now.
And that is one of our most sincerest causes here at and.
That's why we are not lonely males, no.
No, no, no, no. Case closed.
Case closed. That was incredible.
(57:45):
Nothing like a long day at the courthouse to really burn some
calories. Exactly, I feel like I am going
to wake up skinny. Tomorrow I'm going to wake up
skinny and I'm going to wake up well informed on all the latest
and hottest social issues. This is kitchen table politics.
Yes, and it could not have been done without our listeners.
(58:07):
We love you all and there's so many more that I think that we
should take a break here and potentially pick it back up next
week. Yeah, our phone lines are
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