May 20, 2025 • 30 mins
America, listen, parking lots are getting hectic y'all. You ever tried to "swing by" Trader Joe's on a Sunday morning? You ever backed into a fly-away shopping cart? And that's all before you have to wade through the ocean of clipboards guarding the door!
It's all too much handle, unless your name starts with an L and ends in an izzie McGroder. The legend herself (@scootermcgroder) swung by the Premeditated law offices to drop off her latest legislative measures on Solicitor Interactions.
Is it okay hug them? Should the whole process be automated? Does Graham know how old he is?
Answers to all that and more, on an ALL NEW Premeditated.
Hosted by Graham Cameron and Neil Zumwalde
Guest: Lizzie McGroder (@scootermcgroder)
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Yeah. Is the mic OK here?
Yeah. OK, yeah, it's perfect.
He also has 6 to 12. He's a sound engine. 6 to 12
engine, yeah. Thank you.
It was on Studio, Yeah. The look in your eyes was like,
wow, you're a sound engineer. I've never had anybody be.
Impressed sound design too. Sometimes, yeah.
And Neil, can I brag for you fora bit?
Sure. So there's some very jokes.
(00:22):
Neil, can I talk to you for a second?
Hi, America. It's.
Exciting. This is premeditated.
The podcast investigating society's unwritten laws and the
heinous ways they're broken. True crime.
Low stakes. I'm Neil.
I'm Graham and this. Is premeditated.
(00:49):
Hello America, welcome back to sing along time with
Premeditated podcast. The only podcast that is true
crime, but it's not true becausewe improv the crime.
It's all fucking fake. Guess who we have?
Very real guest. Very real guest, not a fake
guest. Lizzie Mcgroder, ladies and
gentlemen. Follow at Scooter isn't
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Mcgruder. I was.
It is. Yeah.
I. Got a run with Scooter so
Mcgruder. No, I'm named after.
It's a nickname from someone called Scooter Mcgruder, but my
name's Lizzie Mcgruder and I. Was given the nickname.
Scooter from this karaoke DJ in Kalina Island.
Yeah, so my name is Scooter Mcgruder.
From an island did. You say Kalina Island.
I used to work there over summerand there was a karaoke DJ named
(01:36):
Scooter Mcgruder. He was the guy version of me.
I. Can't believe you worked on
Catalina Island in that little town.
In a small like camp. I was there for like 4 months.
Yeah, I almost got. Killed at a camp last summer.
That's true. On Catalina Island.
I got, I got a, a Buffalo tried to gore me.
Yeah, it charged me. Bison.
Bison. Excuse me?
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Yeah. Bison.
So it is a bison. It's a North American bison.
Well, they brought them there for a movie in the 20s and they
didn't. They'd have the budget to bring
them back. So they were like, all right.
Probably. For eight are the are the bison
doing good? They're thriving, they're very
dangerous, so they charged you. They charged me and I had to
jump behind a like, a retaining wall and it and like the
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proprietor of the campground or whatever, like came over on a
little buggy and he's just like,are you OK?
What camp? It was, I don't know.
It was like the first week of them being open.
So they did not know what to do about it.
Recently. Stuff.
Yeah. This was last summer.
Yeah, OK. The camp I worked, it's been
there for like decades and decades.
Yeah, no, it's different ones. Ours is a little different, like
I. Was so close to it's probably
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the closest I've ever been to dying was on Catalina Island.
But I love that you did carry over here.
Yeah, I worked there. Yeah, for many.
Years at the camp or at the carry of the camp?
Yeah, it's might be a dumb question.
Is an adults camp or a kids camp?
Kids Camp. Kids camp.
Yeah, kids camp. And Scooter Mcgruder was your
camp nickname. It was so before I even got to
the island. The counselors that were coming
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from the prior year was like, her name's Scooter, so 19.
Scooter Mcgruder. So people, there's.
Not much you can do about just her name's Scooter.
Yeah, it's gonna stick if someone says it with that much
it. Works.
It works, yeah. So that's my Instagram handle.
So people were just like shipping their kids off to
Catalina Island and send it was overnight camp.
Mm hmm. Wow.
Yeah, it was. I went there as a camper and it
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was like the best years of my life.
So getting a counselor position there is like, yes, really big
deal. And I did that for five summers
and it was just, yeah, like wet,hot American summer.
Like yeah, accurate. Camp counselor is the best.
It's more fun than being a camper 'cause you get to break
all the rules. Yes.
And our days off, we're like, wow, yeah, yeah.
So. That but groaner.
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Dang it, I keep doing it. I am offended.
Well, that's bad etiquette. That's bad etiquette.
That is. Poor, poor etiquette, yeah.
And I actually have to go now. Oh, you're keeping track on your
watch at how many times I slip up?
Can I go? Add one, add 1. 2.
Yeah. So did you live the island life
on Catalina Island? Yeah, we lived on the camp.
(04:10):
Which was? Is this too high?
Now? Tell me, Engineer.
Beautiful. I won't touch it.
You. Can.
Move it around. Yeah.
It was so fun, like the best years of my life.
And I'm old now. OK.
Yeah. Oh.
Me too. Are you?
Yeah, there are ages on the count of 312334.
Oh. The oldest.
(04:30):
How old are you? 33 34 in June.
That makes sense. Yeah.
Wait, 34 in June does that. Make sense?
Yeah, that makes sense. That makes sense.
That really makes sense going onno, no, that so 90.
One Yeah, 92. 92 How does that work I.
Don't know it was just the US born.
(04:52):
How does that? What happened in?
It could have been 91 I'm. 91 and I turned 34, you're turning
34. Yeah.
Yeah. I turned 34 in April and I was
born in 1991 are. You 35 then.
No sounds. Like you're 30.
Five. No, I'm not.
My gosh. Wait, am I 32?
Yeah, brother, it's been a long.It's been a long week.
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Are we OK? I'm having you know.
We're not OK. I've been.
Sitting at my desk a lot. So I'm just, I don't know.
I just turned 37 in. April as well, Eric.
Six, Yeah. That makes sense.
Wow, that was a fun little way for me to come in right in the
conversation and then end up wrong at the back end of the
conversation. That was a fun little experience
for me. Oh.
(05:37):
My. God, at first I was like, you
don't know your name. Brutal, I'm pretty sure.
All right, so I we normally giveourselves Uber ratings on the
show, just like how our social etiquettes been this week.
Yours is I'm a couple demerits. First, the Magruder.
Magruder mix up. Yeah, they not know my own age.
It's it's tough start. It's a case for us to just blush
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over this moment. I do.
OK. OK, do I say it right now?
No, no, no, no. We we're.
We're gonna we're gonna go into the evidence.
We're gonna improv a scene. I will scream if you say it.
OK, yeah, and he will. You do not want.
It's are. You trying to think.
I try. Is this a?
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Is this a? What kind of case?
Is this an old case? Young case?
Biblical case. Oh, that's good.
I would say it's a more modern. Modern.
Oh, we haven't done one of thesein a while.
Every. Digital age?
Excuse me? Threw up my mouth, that's what
it's. A digital age Case No.
No, but it is modern. OK.
(06:44):
All right, does it span generations?
OK. That's like guess the animal or
like 20 questions. We're going to 20.
Questions are wages, let's. Confit a bread box.
It can happen to anyone, all right.
Can happen to anyone. Yeah, yeah.
It's like. Law knows no bounds.
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Just punched your mic, it's OK. It's it's, it was being bad.
It's padded. Well, I think we should get into
this case, don't you? Yeah.
Hey, guys. Yeah.
Before you go in, you want to sign off on what is it today,
(07:29):
animal, animals getting food rights, You want to sign off on
that? Getting food rights.
Yeah, that's where. They have the right to.
Eat to eat food. Yeah, I think that no, no,
sorry. It's the right.
It's the right for them to be, you know, shit, Sorry.
It's my first. It's my first week.
(07:50):
Yeah, this is a very tiring. I just.
Have a really really really longpavilion shopping list.
What? Dale, OH.
My God, Kurt. Hey man, what's up?
Do you guys know each other? We do.
How do you guys know each other?This is my beautiful husband.
Oh, that's interesting. Yeah.
(08:12):
Check out the ring. Dale, we just, we just tied the
knot and he's mine. Kyle.
Whoa, hey. I'm a little territorial.
Yeah, please. And you're calling me two
different names. OK Bopa, you bitch.
Pardon me. OK, I think everybody needs to
settle down. Let's OK, we.
Dale looked. Kurt.
(08:32):
Kurt thinking about the animals.That's not intentional.
Well, I was throwing a little shade.
Yeah, you. Shade cover.
Yourself again. I'm sorry.
You're right, Dale, I'm thinkingabout.
Myself, you know, things haven'tbeen going so well since, you
know, you left our roommate situation.
Really. Yeah.
You're that Kurt. Yeah, you couldn't get that
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basement room filled. No, we had a file for
bankruptcy. I don't.
The the roommate situation. I can't tell if you're trying to
make me feel bad. Oh dude.
Whoa, don't clap in my face. Kurt, do not clap in my
husband's face. Clipboard has that.
Clipboard has sharp edges. You be careful with that.
We had a file from bankruptcy. OK dude and that was because of
(09:14):
you. Now please just sign this
fucking I need to get at least 10 signatures so I can get paid.
Like what? Is it for?
Is it so that animals can eat orso we can eat animals?
Coming from Mr. I'm I'm married now look at goose eyes.
Goose eyes. Dale.
Goose eyes. Peter, you are a little goose
(09:36):
side right now. Hey, hey.
Missed you. Hey.
I've. Missed you.
Can't say I've thought too much about you but it is really good
to see you and and I'm glad thatyou are employee.
I mean, not for long, dude. If you could just, if you could
just really help me out. Write your name, write a few
(09:56):
fake names. I just I have to hit the quota.
I've I have no problem writing my name.
I've known probably writing Peter's name, not our emails.
I will. I'll use our junk emails.
You could instead of Peter, you could just put Mr. Goose eyes.
I don't love this Kurt charactertale.
I can't believe you lived with this man.
Hey, we had a really good nine years.
(10:20):
It would. Deal.
You said it was just. A We were in Alhambra.
Yep, OK, off Easton and Piccadillo.
No, you said it. Piccadillo, Piccadillo.
I would always mispronounce it. And I would say, hey, kind of
funny. We live on Piccadillo Street,
right? Yeah.
Because I had the daylight basement and I could take pics
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of. And I was blowing him too.
Just. Curtis.
Why dude? This is my current partner, you
can't say that. Just got married and you know,
I'm territorial. Sorry.
OK, look, let's just put this tobed to rest, OK?
Put this to bed to rest. Yes sign I just if you just hear
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what what a person want me back.Wow.
Would a personalized check help out?
Dude, it's it's literally not even about money.
You know what? I don't even think you care
about animal rights. It is unclear to me what right
we're giving the animal. It's it does have a point curve
I. I love an animal.
It OK, It's for them. It's for them to be seen as to
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for them to be treated well. It sounds like you're just
making this up. I don't believe that there's an
actual charity that is actually for them to be meaning well.
I feed the pit. I have a bird feeder that's I
have a bird feeder at my house that we share.
That's true, Francis. Oh my gosh, I can't handle this
Curtis fellow. Sometimes I'm going into
pavilions. OK, I've just filled out 20
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names. Thank you.
Oh, he really shimmied out of there.
He can he when he wears his wheelies, he can really zip.
Yeah. Are you happy?
I've missed you. Gram But that case that got
fiery fast. I mean.
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Out of control the wheels, the the train came off the tracks.
I was. Stuck in those automatic doors
just closing repeatedly often. Right on your.
Head, do you guys see severance?Yes.
You never the last. Severance on Apple Plus.
When the guys caught in the door.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, that's the spoiler.
Well, not really what it's like.Yeah, it's just a guy.
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A guy is smashed in an elevator.Yeah, it's so good.
It's really good. Chop, chop, chop.
Chop, chop. I love it.
Chop. OK.
I think that this case, I think what's in that folder, shaking
her head no, she's like, you have no idea.
But I. I have some guesses.
I think we. Should just have it out I think.
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My guess is that it is like being like solicitors for
charities they don't actually care about.
Yeah, I, I, yeah, that was my, that was my first thing was I'm
a charitable guy, but some, someof these people outside can be a
little aggressive. Yeah.
A little bit. Like they they can dress you
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down like. I've had like you clap your
clipboard in that I, I feel likeI've had like a, excuse me, Sir,
Sir, Sir, yeah. Should I be neutral right now or
should? I listen, I don't.
I don't think I have. No idea it would.
Be fun if you were. That and a great way.
So yeah, I think it's AI, think it's a charity solicitor like
Aggro Charity Solicitors is whatI think is in there.
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Or, or I mean there was a prettyheavily contentious X run into.
That's true, that's true, And wecould really dig into XS for a
long time. But should we have?
Should we open up the case file and find out?
Yeah, I guess. Do you think, do you think, do
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you think you should do solicitors?
I should do the X thing? Yeah, I'm.
Putting my money on. Agro.
And then either one of us will be right or neither of us will
be right. Yeah.
I feel like I didn't set you guys up for success because
you're kind of dancing. You were cold, you were hotter,
and then it was no, no, no, no, no way before.
And then you went to fucking Antarctica.
Oh, oh, oh, I'm 33 now. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
(14:18):
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Swerve.
OK. So OK, OK, OK.
He's on a National Geographic. Trees but this.
OK, but this is this has to do with the front of grocery stores
usually correct. OK, OK, OK.
Yeah, I think yeah, some sort ofsort of thing.
I'm anxious to see aggro. Aggro charity solicitors.
Aggro Charity. OK, So what do I do?
You can feel free to open it up and show the.
(14:38):
Cameras like children's and then.
Read it out loud. For us, my show.
Yeah, ladies and gentlemen, there's there's Golden them
hills. Also eyes I misspelled so bad so
bad. That's why it's like Final
Jeopardy. You just kind of do whatever.
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Ignoring nonprofit solicitors. Solicitors.
Yeah. 2 for three that's. Pretty good ignoring nonprofit.
Ignoring what? OK, yes, so.
Yeah, it was a piece that I didn't, yes, pull all the way
around cuz I was debating in theimprov which person I should
play. Right, the solicitor or the
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ignorer of this because. I have a very specific tactic.
Yeah, we hung out with you. What?
Or no? In the scene?
We hung out with the. We didn't.
Ignore you, Yeah, but I, yes, I chose to be that person.
But when I'm getting solicited at, I have a very specific
tactic. What is it I?
Need to know because I end up inI end up just either being a
total Dick and I don't want to be or just a total like you can
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have all my money, yeah. So what I do is because I found
out that these people are, no, they're not volunteers.
They're paid. It's a job.
It's great, you know, and they only get paid based on
signatures, which, OK, sometimesyou're in a rush.
You're doing your thing. I used to live by the Whole
Foods by Fairfax in Santa Monica, and I discovered this.
I pretend to be on the phone andI'm crying as I walk by them.
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Yeah, so. Dramatic way to ignore somebody.
Yeah, dude, as I'm walking I'm like, oh shit, yeah, yeah, I'm
on my way now. And I swear to God, they go no.
Absolutely. Not it works and I'll do it and
I'll be like the first few timesI did I was like, I am a
psychopath cuz as you walk in the store I'm like, well.
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Every time you're trying out a new way to not give to charity,
you always feel like a psychopath.
Why is that? Yeah, but I will tell you guys
it works like a charm. Or even if you don't feel like
fake crying, just act really concerned on the phone.
Be like, yeah, are you OK? Oh my God, Mom, I'm coming and
they. They nothing makes people more
nervous than an emotional woman.If you want.
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To end up. Crying in public as a woman?
Powerful. I see you're also, I also see
you do improv a lot and you're like a very funny person.
So I could feel like, yeah, you could you, you crying could be
funny in some situations. No, I'm a good actor though I'm
really good at first of all. Should have said that he's out.
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He doesn't even know how old he is.
I hate them in their 20s. Disgusting.
My resume is actor. Yeah.
Actor, actor, improviser, comedian.
Very kill situation. Improviser No.
I'm a really good actor, so I just played the truth of it.
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I don't. It's not silly.
When I walk by, I am like talking to like someone who's.
So you're going full through thegrocery store door is still as.
Slow as possible, it doesn't matter the second you're on the
phone pretending to cry. You can even kind of wait by
them. Because a crime person kind of
would not go into the shore. Yeah, you.
Could probably grab their shoulders.
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He's like weeping. Gesture at them for like a
tissue or something. To hand, yeah.
And it all kind of, I mean, I used to stop and stuff like
years ago, but I had someone asked me like, do you care about
animal rights? And I was like, I'm in a rush.
And the guy was like, you obviously don't.
And I was like, actually I've been vegan for 10 years and I
volunteer at XY and Z. Yeah, what do you do?
And he I was like, you vegan? He's like, oh, no.
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And I was like, you care? You do this.
And I got really angry. So after that I was like, you're
not going to shame me if you're not doing it too, in fact.
I'm going to cry and. And make you really
uncomfortable? Yeah, Do you?
See what caring about animals looks like, yeah.
Exactly. So does that.
That's a social, social, social.Oh.
Yeah, that's absolutely there. And we need legislation to like
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determine where. That's what we need.
Where we. Yeah, absolutely.
Yeah, absolutely. This is important.
We need, we need at least judicial precedent, yeah.
And I, and I, and I think, I think what you're doing is you,
you see a need and you fulfill that need.
And I think that's very, I thinkit's appropriate because I think
ignoring the ignoring the issue is a little bit worse because I,
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I, I, I'm guilty of like, oh, this is a really interesting
text I'm reading. There's no.
Way just not talk. To you, right?
Yeah. Like hey, hey, hey.
I do. I do, I do.
No thanks. Sorry, man.
Which is just not. It's so you.
Say it like that. No thanks.
Sorry man. Yeah, yeah.
Yeah. I believe, which is I know, I
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feel. Like I'm probably no thanks.
Sorry man, to you before it's. A good go to is it and it works.
Cuz well, I just, I but like, I feel like, yeah, I feel the need
to apologize to them for some reason.
No, like I'm not that bad of a person, although I for sure am
cuz I'm not donating to charity.And here's my issue.
I've talked to one of these people before.
I've talked to a few of them andwhat always gets me is like if
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there were a one time, just likeBoop Zell, you tap my card,
whatever, but it's always a. Subscription.
It's paperwork. It's a commitment.
Yeah, it's documentation. Yeah, yeah.
It's it's big. I yes, when I was in when in the
throes of the Great Recession of.
(20:06):
Which one? The 2008 one I.
Was like 2000. We've lived through a few.
Yeah, like maybe January 2009, Iwas living in Minnesota and I
was so poor, desperately poor, and I desperately needed a.
Job. That's such a Minnesota way to
say poor. Too poor.
Like it. Yeah.
It's like porridge steerage. I was living in steerage and I
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got a job at the Sierra Club where you knock door to door and
try and get people to donate to just the environment in general.
And I raised $0.00 on my first day and I was fired that day.
But I had spent money on good enough boots that I could
actually make it around. In January I was freezing cold.
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It was the most miserable day ofmy life.
Door fire salesman in January. Yes, and I I spent more on the
boots than I got paid for that day of work.
You got the boots for work. Yeah, it was.
So I have little to no sympathy and it's because I have a
personal vet you. Have personal, Yeah, personal
mistaking or. Something sawy environment.
(21:13):
I've got a personal vendetta. Can't donate to you right now?
So do you stop and talk? Then yeah, absolutely not.
Yeah. What do you do?
I'm like hell no. OK, I thought you were hell no.
Empathizing with the the door knockers.
No, no, no. And the bell?
No. No, I'm like, I have no charity
to me does the opposite of what it should, which is rich people
(21:36):
will say that charity is what weneed to do to solve like social,
like social cohesion problems, like anything with collective
action. They're like, oh, charity fills
that gap. Anyone who's actually like a
staunch capitalist will say thatit's bullshit and it's just,
it's just getting rid of all theaccountability.
(21:56):
So I don't like charities because I think that it's a bad
way to do collective action. I think we need a different way
to do collective action, and that's all.
That's just me being political. Yeah, as well.
Get black. Yes, get there that's.
Very true. And a lot of time they're not
even working with people who arelike actually in the community
or dealing like boots on the ground with these issues.
(22:17):
Although I have purchased one thing for charity, and that is a
friend of mine went target to dotarget practice with a gun out
in Nebraska. Scary.
Yeah, and political. One of the targets you could get
was the shape of a woman in Pinkfor the Susan B Komen
Foundation. Way they specified the charity
(22:40):
specifics are big in our jobs a piece.
Of paper that was the Susan B Komen target for target
practice. Isn't isn't that a pretty
corrupt 1 wasn't Susan B? Yeah, it's like 0 cents on the
dollar. It's like, it's like, it's such
a calm, strange guy, like he didn't do that.
Sure. But that's like it's so
aggressive. It's so aggressive.
It is an outline of a woman. It yes, and my my friend who is
a woman took it home and framed it and it's up on her.
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Did she? Shoot it before she framed it.
She did. Of course she did.
Of course she did. It was amazing.
And she is. She is an art curator, so she
knows what states to roll, and she's Susan Bico.
She's a Second Amendment defending art curator.
That's very that's a statement. So she's trying to keep the
statues up. Then the the monuments.
No, no, no, no. She she'd.
(23:24):
Keep them up if there was paint splashed on them.
Or like, you know, sure, right? I mean art.
She does Native American art specifically, so I don't think
she's a huge colonialist. Statue.
Yes. Yes.
Yes, yes, yes. Yes, yeah, Anyways.
So do you guys like my faux pas?I like I I run into yeah, it's
(23:44):
it's incredible. I I have gotten pretty good.
I do the BLOB. I ignore.
I'm guilty of this. You do the sorry man.
Sorry man, what do you? Say I'm.
Sorry, I think I do a thanks like.
Yeah, no thanks. Sorry man, no thanks.
No thanks. Sorry man, just like that's like
you're a superhero. Yeah.
(24:05):
Just a. Mad Libs of indifferent male.
Just nothing exciting, man. I can't.
I can't. It's good though.
Yeah, it's and yeah, you. I definitely don't do eye
contact until the last possible moment 'cause they 'cause they
see you common they yeah, they try to pinpoint them.
They tried, yeah. I I recently had this outside
the target by house. We live next to a like a city
(24:26):
target. You know, like the smaller ones
that don't have all the good stuff in them.
It's just like, it's like 3 tops.
Do you? Expect target.
A jar of ice cream and then it'slike that's it So like there's a
guy out front and we I'm walkingwith Colleen, my wife and we
have our dog and the dog can't go into the target.
So we have like a strategy set up, somebody sits on the curb
with a dog, the other person goes in and buys it.
So I, we get up to that, we get up, we're in view of the
(24:49):
solicitor. I know he's there, I know he's
got wearing the the smock, the big red smock that has like the
pockets for the pencils and stuff, you know?
Oh yeah, yeah, it's a it's. An apron.
There's no like vertical visual ape.
Like, there's not like Bellerin.He's like, he has a clipboard
and he has a thing. And so I see him come in and
he's an animal rights person with a dog.
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So we're already we're a soft spot for him.
So I know, I know to just keep eye, eye level low.
So I take my spot on the curb and Colin just walks right into
his trap and stands there for 20minutes like, 'cause she can't
say no. Yeah.
She's just like, oh, wow. And there's flies in the dog's
eyes. Like, Oh my goodness, this is so
terrible. I'm like, I, I eventually
(25:32):
without this is this is really punishable?
I've I'm have goosebumps even admitting this, but I got it.
Got to a point where I just wentand handed her the dog's leash
and then I went to the Target and bought the stuff because
we're on a schedule. You know we're.
On a schedule, you know. Really good goose care.
No, I'm quite sweaty actually. Wow.
(25:54):
So. We so so where?
Where do you land on this? Is it rude to ignore them?
No, clearly not. Clearly not.
Yeah, yeah. So you have a whole like fun
thing. It's not fun.
It was birthed out of like a deep, like avoidance of what was
being put in my face. So I'm a, I'm a pro, you know,
(26:17):
pro of the. Pro ignore pro.
Pro. Doing it, yeah.
It also kind of works if you're,if you're ever getting a ticket,
like if you park in a place where you're getting a ticket
and they're writing it as you'recoming out.
Sometimes I'll pretend to like be really sick and I'll be like,
I had to get my medicine and I've have gotten out of tickets
(26:39):
because of that. I I've done the exact same thing
but I still got the ticket. I was literally under crushed.
Do you have to list the medicine?
For it. Well, I came in really hot.
I think he was kind of scared, too.
I was like, yeah. I.
Was like, that was just my car, like I had to get my medicine
and the guy was like, it's a yellow and you gotta, I was
like, I just gotta get home. Oh, you're in the loading zone,
(27:01):
so just. Terrorizing the work people of
the public. Yeah, you gotta go in really
fast though, like. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I can't. I can't talk to you right now.
I don't know what. You want.
Survive. I don't know what you're
selling. I don't want.
It yeah, survive. Like, you gotta be so sick that
you're like, I don't care if yougive me a ticket.
I just need to like get out. Exactly.
(27:22):
That bad. Yeah, whatever my medicine.
Yeah, I've got to say, Lizzie, Iaspire to be like you.
It's really powerful. It's.
Incredible. Thank you.
Yeah. And so I don't think there's any
punishments necessary. Please no, I think.
Little. One No, no, no, no, no.
I think I think you yeah, it's it's you got it.
(27:44):
I think what I do is way worse because it's.
No, thank you. Sorry.
Yeah. No, thank you.
Thank you. Sorry man.
Because it's not like. Simon.
It's just hiding from it becauseyou're, because you're, you've
come into it with a character, you step up to the plate.
I do, yeah. Thank you.
And you say your move if you want to interrupt this woman
crying on the phone to her mom. Your move if you want to get
respect. That, yeah, honestly, like I
(28:06):
might. I subscribe to it $15.00 a
month. Yeah, that's true.
Thank you. Those are such nice compliments.
I'm like somewhere in the middlewhere I just like directly tell
them no. I I will say absolutely not.
That is, how much? How much?
Tank you put on the note, you just go no or you were like no.
No, I, I, I feel like I have to be rather firm.
Yeah. So I'll be like, no, I think
that's absolutely not. Respectable and honest, Yeah.
(28:30):
And it shows like your comfortability, you know, in
yourself. Thank you.
Thank you. It also suggests that I might be
against the cause, which I don'tlove because I want to be like,
of course I'm here. Of course I support the cause.
But like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Like, I'm not going to undo that.
Yeah, yeah, both of you are verygood at hiding the guilt.
I wear it. I wear it with my 4 words my
(28:51):
age. Yeah, yeah.
And when you? Hey, one day we turn.
To 33. Now, and you're teenagers, you
know you'll discover that. Something to look forward to, I
guess. Yeah.
Yeah. It's a real burden, trust me.
Yeah. It gives me no pleasure to say
no thanks. Sorry man.
But I think it's, I think it's aproblem.
I think that we all do the rightthing.
We're, I actually support a couple of people.
(29:11):
We're all really good people. Guys, we're like Saints.
Listen, I wasn't going to say it, but she said it.
So I kind of agree. We're all.
Saved. Weird.
This is perfect. Well, is that case closed?
Everybody just ignores solicitors.
Check on my watch. Is it time to go yet?
(29:32):
We can close it, OK. Anything you want to plug real
quick? Girl style.
Thank you girls. Night comedy.
We're doing a variety show whichI don't know when this will come
out. Probably not in time.
OK, but we do a lot of we have all different talents.
So we do improv, I do clown, Jasmine does is going to do a
(29:55):
musical number. Oh.
Danielle has a. Character.
Piece Jasmine play the cello. She'll be playing cello.
But we all do really cool stuff,so it's a variety show.
And our 4th partner, you guys haven't met yet, Hannah Pilcus,
will be there too. So yeah, check us out.
Girls Night. Excellent.
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Case closed. Case closed.
Do whatever you want to solicitors.
Yep. This is premeditated.
Yeah. Is the mic OK here?
Yeah. OK, yeah, it's perfect.
He also has 6 to 12. He's a sound engine. 6 to 12
engine, yeah. Thank you.
It was on Studio, Yeah. The look in your eyes was like,
wow, you're a sound engineer. I've never had anybody be.
Impressed sound design too. Sometimes, yeah.
And Neil, can I brag for you fora bit?
Sure. So there's some very jokes.
(00:22):
Neil, can I talk to you for a second?
Hi, America. It's.
Exciting. This is premeditated.
The podcast investigating society's unwritten laws and the
heinous ways they're broken. True crime.
Low stakes. I'm Neil.
I'm Graham and this. Is premeditated.
(00:49):
Hello America, welcome back to sing along time with
Premeditated podcast. The only podcast that is true
crime, but it's not true becausewe improv the crime.
It's all fucking fake. Guess who we have?
Very real guest. Very real guest, not a fake
guest. Lizzie Mcgroder, ladies and
gentlemen. Follow at Scooter isn't
(01:14):
Mcgruder. I was.
It is. Yeah.
I. Got a run with Scooter so
Mcgruder. No, I'm named after.
It's a nickname from someone called Scooter Mcgruder, but my
name's Lizzie Mcgruder and I. Was given the nickname.
Scooter from this karaoke DJ in Kalina Island.
Yeah, so my name is Scooter Mcgruder.
From an island did. You say Kalina Island.
I used to work there over summerand there was a karaoke DJ named
(01:36):
Scooter Mcgruder. He was the guy version of me.
I. Can't believe you worked on
Catalina Island in that little town.
In a small like camp. I was there for like 4 months.
Yeah, I almost got. Killed at a camp last summer.
That's true. On Catalina Island.
I got, I got a, a Buffalo tried to gore me.
Yeah, it charged me. Bison.
Bison. Excuse me?
(01:57):
Yeah. Bison.
So it is a bison. It's a North American bison.
Well, they brought them there for a movie in the 20s and they
didn't. They'd have the budget to bring
them back. So they were like, all right.
Probably. For eight are the are the bison
doing good? They're thriving, they're very
dangerous, so they charged you. They charged me and I had to
jump behind a like, a retaining wall and it and like the
(02:20):
proprietor of the campground or whatever, like came over on a
little buggy and he's just like,are you OK?
What camp? It was, I don't know.
It was like the first week of them being open.
So they did not know what to do about it.
Recently. Stuff.
Yeah. This was last summer.
Yeah, OK. The camp I worked, it's been
there for like decades and decades.
Yeah, no, it's different ones. Ours is a little different, like
I. Was so close to it's probably
(02:42):
the closest I've ever been to dying was on Catalina Island.
But I love that you did carry over here.
Yeah, I worked there. Yeah, for many.
Years at the camp or at the carry of the camp?
Yeah, it's might be a dumb question.
Is an adults camp or a kids camp?
Kids Camp. Kids camp.
Yeah, kids camp. And Scooter Mcgruder was your
camp nickname. It was so before I even got to
the island. The counselors that were coming
(03:03):
from the prior year was like, her name's Scooter, so 19.
Scooter Mcgruder. So people, there's.
Not much you can do about just her name's Scooter.
Yeah, it's gonna stick if someone says it with that much
it. Works.
It works, yeah. So that's my Instagram handle.
So people were just like shipping their kids off to
Catalina Island and send it was overnight camp.
Mm hmm. Wow.
Yeah, it was. I went there as a camper and it
(03:24):
was like the best years of my life.
So getting a counselor position there is like, yes, really big
deal. And I did that for five summers
and it was just, yeah, like wet,hot American summer.
Like yeah, accurate. Camp counselor is the best.
It's more fun than being a camper 'cause you get to break
all the rules. Yes.
And our days off, we're like, wow, yeah, yeah.
So. That but groaner.
(03:45):
Dang it, I keep doing it. I am offended.
Well, that's bad etiquette. That's bad etiquette.
That is. Poor, poor etiquette, yeah.
And I actually have to go now. Oh, you're keeping track on your
watch at how many times I slip up?
Can I go? Add one, add 1. 2.
Yeah. So did you live the island life
on Catalina Island? Yeah, we lived on the camp.
(04:10):
Which was? Is this too high?
Now? Tell me, Engineer.
Beautiful. I won't touch it.
You. Can.
Move it around. Yeah.
It was so fun, like the best years of my life.
And I'm old now. OK.
Yeah. Oh.
Me too. Are you?
Yeah, there are ages on the count of 312334.
Oh. The oldest.
(04:30):
How old are you? 33 34 in June.
That makes sense. Yeah.
Wait, 34 in June does that. Make sense?
Yeah, that makes sense. That makes sense.
That really makes sense going onno, no, that so 90.
One Yeah, 92. 92 How does that work I.
Don't know it was just the US born.
(04:52):
How does that? What happened in?
It could have been 91 I'm. 91 and I turned 34, you're turning
34. Yeah.
Yeah. I turned 34 in April and I was
born in 1991 are. You 35 then.
No sounds. Like you're 30.
Five. No, I'm not.
My gosh. Wait, am I 32?
Yeah, brother, it's been a long.It's been a long week.
(05:17):
Are we OK? I'm having you know.
We're not OK. I've been.
Sitting at my desk a lot. So I'm just, I don't know.
I just turned 37 in. April as well, Eric.
Six, Yeah. That makes sense.
Wow, that was a fun little way for me to come in right in the
conversation and then end up wrong at the back end of the
conversation. That was a fun little experience
for me. Oh.
(05:37):
My. God, at first I was like, you
don't know your name. Brutal, I'm pretty sure.
All right, so I we normally giveourselves Uber ratings on the
show, just like how our social etiquettes been this week.
Yours is I'm a couple demerits. First, the Magruder.
Magruder mix up. Yeah, they not know my own age.
It's it's tough start. It's a case for us to just blush
(05:59):
over this moment. I do.
OK. OK, do I say it right now?
No, no, no, no. We we're.
We're gonna we're gonna go into the evidence.
We're gonna improv a scene. I will scream if you say it.
OK, yeah, and he will. You do not want.
It's are. You trying to think.
I try. Is this a?
(06:20):
Is this a? What kind of case?
Is this an old case? Young case?
Biblical case. Oh, that's good.
I would say it's a more modern. Modern.
Oh, we haven't done one of thesein a while.
Every. Digital age?
Excuse me? Threw up my mouth, that's what
it's. A digital age Case No.
No, but it is modern. OK.
(06:44):
All right, does it span generations?
OK. That's like guess the animal or
like 20 questions. We're going to 20.
Questions are wages, let's. Confit a bread box.
It can happen to anyone, all right.
Can happen to anyone. Yeah, yeah.
It's like. Law knows no bounds.
(07:07):
Just punched your mic, it's OK. It's it's, it was being bad.
It's padded. Well, I think we should get into
this case, don't you? Yeah.
Hey, guys. Yeah.
Before you go in, you want to sign off on what is it today,
(07:29):
animal, animals getting food rights, You want to sign off on
that? Getting food rights.
Yeah, that's where. They have the right to.
Eat to eat food. Yeah, I think that no, no,
sorry. It's the right.
It's the right for them to be, you know, shit, Sorry.
It's my first. It's my first week.
(07:50):
Yeah, this is a very tiring. I just.
Have a really really really longpavilion shopping list.
What? Dale, OH.
My God, Kurt. Hey man, what's up?
Do you guys know each other? We do.
How do you guys know each other?This is my beautiful husband.
Oh, that's interesting. Yeah.
(08:12):
Check out the ring. Dale, we just, we just tied the
knot and he's mine. Kyle.
Whoa, hey. I'm a little territorial.
Yeah, please. And you're calling me two
different names. OK Bopa, you bitch.
Pardon me. OK, I think everybody needs to
settle down. Let's OK, we.
Dale looked. Kurt.
(08:32):
Kurt thinking about the animals.That's not intentional.
Well, I was throwing a little shade.
Yeah, you. Shade cover.
Yourself again. I'm sorry.
You're right, Dale, I'm thinkingabout.
Myself, you know, things haven'tbeen going so well since, you
know, you left our roommate situation.
Really. Yeah.
You're that Kurt. Yeah, you couldn't get that
(08:53):
basement room filled. No, we had a file for
bankruptcy. I don't.
The the roommate situation. I can't tell if you're trying to
make me feel bad. Oh dude.
Whoa, don't clap in my face. Kurt, do not clap in my
husband's face. Clipboard has that.
Clipboard has sharp edges. You be careful with that.
We had a file from bankruptcy. OK dude and that was because of
(09:14):
you. Now please just sign this
fucking I need to get at least 10 signatures so I can get paid.
Like what? Is it for?
Is it so that animals can eat orso we can eat animals?
Coming from Mr. I'm I'm married now look at goose eyes.
Goose eyes. Dale.
Goose eyes. Peter, you are a little goose
(09:36):
side right now. Hey, hey.
Missed you. Hey.
I've. Missed you.
Can't say I've thought too much about you but it is really good
to see you and and I'm glad thatyou are employee.
I mean, not for long, dude. If you could just, if you could
just really help me out. Write your name, write a few
(09:56):
fake names. I just I have to hit the quota.
I've I have no problem writing my name.
I've known probably writing Peter's name, not our emails.
I will. I'll use our junk emails.
You could instead of Peter, you could just put Mr. Goose eyes.
I don't love this Kurt charactertale.
I can't believe you lived with this man.
Hey, we had a really good nine years.
(10:20):
It would. Deal.
You said it was just. A We were in Alhambra.
Yep, OK, off Easton and Piccadillo.
No, you said it. Piccadillo, Piccadillo.
I would always mispronounce it. And I would say, hey, kind of
funny. We live on Piccadillo Street,
right? Yeah.
Because I had the daylight basement and I could take pics
(10:40):
of. And I was blowing him too.
Just. Curtis.
Why dude? This is my current partner, you
can't say that. Just got married and you know,
I'm territorial. Sorry.
OK, look, let's just put this tobed to rest, OK?
Put this to bed to rest. Yes sign I just if you just hear
(11:01):
what what a person want me back.Wow.
Would a personalized check help out?
Dude, it's it's literally not even about money.
You know what? I don't even think you care
about animal rights. It is unclear to me what right
we're giving the animal. It's it does have a point curve
I. I love an animal.
It OK, It's for them. It's for them to be seen as to
(11:24):
for them to be treated well. It sounds like you're just
making this up. I don't believe that there's an
actual charity that is actually for them to be meaning well.
I feed the pit. I have a bird feeder that's I
have a bird feeder at my house that we share.
That's true, Francis. Oh my gosh, I can't handle this
Curtis fellow. Sometimes I'm going into
pavilions. OK, I've just filled out 20
(11:45):
names. Thank you.
Oh, he really shimmied out of there.
He can he when he wears his wheelies, he can really zip.
Yeah. Are you happy?
I've missed you. Gram But that case that got
fiery fast. I mean.
(12:06):
Out of control the wheels, the the train came off the tracks.
I was. Stuck in those automatic doors
just closing repeatedly often. Right on your.
Head, do you guys see severance?Yes.
You never the last. Severance on Apple Plus.
When the guys caught in the door.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, that's the spoiler.
Well, not really what it's like.Yeah, it's just a guy.
(12:27):
A guy is smashed in an elevator.Yeah, it's so good.
It's really good. Chop, chop, chop.
Chop, chop. I love it.
Chop. OK.
I think that this case, I think what's in that folder, shaking
her head no, she's like, you have no idea.
But I. I have some guesses.
I think we. Should just have it out I think.
(12:47):
My guess is that it is like being like solicitors for
charities they don't actually care about.
Yeah, I, I, yeah, that was my, that was my first thing was I'm
a charitable guy, but some, someof these people outside can be a
little aggressive. Yeah.
A little bit. Like they they can dress you
(13:09):
down like. I've had like you clap your
clipboard in that I, I feel likeI've had like a, excuse me, Sir,
Sir, Sir, yeah. Should I be neutral right now or
should? I listen, I don't.
I don't think I have. No idea it would.
Be fun if you were. That and a great way.
So yeah, I think it's AI, think it's a charity solicitor like
Aggro Charity Solicitors is whatI think is in there.
(13:32):
Or, or I mean there was a prettyheavily contentious X run into.
That's true, that's true, And wecould really dig into XS for a
long time. But should we have?
Should we open up the case file and find out?
Yeah, I guess. Do you think, do you think, do
(13:53):
you think you should do solicitors?
I should do the X thing? Yeah, I'm.
Putting my money on. Agro.
And then either one of us will be right or neither of us will
be right. Yeah.
I feel like I didn't set you guys up for success because
you're kind of dancing. You were cold, you were hotter,
and then it was no, no, no, no, no way before.
And then you went to fucking Antarctica.
Oh, oh, oh, I'm 33 now. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
(14:18):
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Swerve.
OK. So OK, OK, OK.
He's on a National Geographic. Trees but this.
OK, but this is this has to do with the front of grocery stores
usually correct. OK, OK, OK.
Yeah, I think yeah, some sort ofsort of thing.
I'm anxious to see aggro. Aggro charity solicitors.
Aggro Charity. OK, So what do I do?
You can feel free to open it up and show the.
(14:38):
Cameras like children's and then.
Read it out loud. For us, my show.
Yeah, ladies and gentlemen, there's there's Golden them
hills. Also eyes I misspelled so bad so
bad. That's why it's like Final
Jeopardy. You just kind of do whatever.
(15:00):
Ignoring nonprofit solicitors. Solicitors.
Yeah. 2 for three that's. Pretty good ignoring nonprofit.
Ignoring what? OK, yes, so.
Yeah, it was a piece that I didn't, yes, pull all the way
around cuz I was debating in theimprov which person I should
play. Right, the solicitor or the
(15:21):
ignorer of this because. I have a very specific tactic.
Yeah, we hung out with you. What?
Or no? In the scene?
We hung out with the. We didn't.
Ignore you, Yeah, but I, yes, I chose to be that person.
But when I'm getting solicited at, I have a very specific
tactic. What is it I?
Need to know because I end up inI end up just either being a
total Dick and I don't want to be or just a total like you can
(15:46):
have all my money, yeah. So what I do is because I found
out that these people are, no, they're not volunteers.
They're paid. It's a job.
It's great, you know, and they only get paid based on
signatures, which, OK, sometimesyou're in a rush.
You're doing your thing. I used to live by the Whole
Foods by Fairfax in Santa Monica, and I discovered this.
I pretend to be on the phone andI'm crying as I walk by them.
(16:08):
Yeah, so. Dramatic way to ignore somebody.
Yeah, dude, as I'm walking I'm like, oh shit, yeah, yeah, I'm
on my way now. And I swear to God, they go no.
Absolutely. Not it works and I'll do it and
I'll be like the first few timesI did I was like, I am a
psychopath cuz as you walk in the store I'm like, well.
(16:28):
Every time you're trying out a new way to not give to charity,
you always feel like a psychopath.
Why is that? Yeah, but I will tell you guys
it works like a charm. Or even if you don't feel like
fake crying, just act really concerned on the phone.
Be like, yeah, are you OK? Oh my God, Mom, I'm coming and
they. They nothing makes people more
nervous than an emotional woman.If you want.
(16:51):
To end up. Crying in public as a woman?
Powerful. I see you're also, I also see
you do improv a lot and you're like a very funny person.
So I could feel like, yeah, you could you, you crying could be
funny in some situations. No, I'm a good actor though I'm
really good at first of all. Should have said that he's out.
(17:12):
He doesn't even know how old he is.
I hate them in their 20s. Disgusting.
My resume is actor. Yeah.
Actor, actor, improviser, comedian.
Very kill situation. Improviser No.
I'm a really good actor, so I just played the truth of it.
(17:36):
I don't. It's not silly.
When I walk by, I am like talking to like someone who's.
So you're going full through thegrocery store door is still as.
Slow as possible, it doesn't matter the second you're on the
phone pretending to cry. You can even kind of wait by
them. Because a crime person kind of
would not go into the shore. Yeah, you.
Could probably grab their shoulders.
(17:57):
He's like weeping. Gesture at them for like a
tissue or something. To hand, yeah.
And it all kind of, I mean, I used to stop and stuff like
years ago, but I had someone asked me like, do you care about
animal rights? And I was like, I'm in a rush.
And the guy was like, you obviously don't.
And I was like, actually I've been vegan for 10 years and I
volunteer at XY and Z. Yeah, what do you do?
And he I was like, you vegan? He's like, oh, no.
(18:20):
And I was like, you care? You do this.
And I got really angry. So after that I was like, you're
not going to shame me if you're not doing it too, in fact.
I'm going to cry and. And make you really
uncomfortable? Yeah, Do you?
See what caring about animals looks like, yeah.
Exactly. So does that.
That's a social, social, social.Oh.
Yeah, that's absolutely there. And we need legislation to like
(18:42):
determine where. That's what we need.
Where we. Yeah, absolutely.
Yeah, absolutely. This is important.
We need, we need at least judicial precedent, yeah.
And I, and I, and I think, I think what you're doing is you,
you see a need and you fulfill that need.
And I think that's very, I thinkit's appropriate because I think
ignoring the ignoring the issue is a little bit worse because I,
(19:04):
I, I, I'm guilty of like, oh, this is a really interesting
text I'm reading. There's no.
Way just not talk. To you, right?
Yeah. Like hey, hey, hey.
I do. I do, I do.
No thanks. Sorry, man.
Which is just not. It's so you.
Say it like that. No thanks.
Sorry man. Yeah, yeah.
Yeah. I believe, which is I know, I
(19:25):
feel. Like I'm probably no thanks.
Sorry man, to you before it's. A good go to is it and it works.
Cuz well, I just, I but like, I feel like, yeah, I feel the need
to apologize to them for some reason.
No, like I'm not that bad of a person, although I for sure am
cuz I'm not donating to charity.And here's my issue.
I've talked to one of these people before.
I've talked to a few of them andwhat always gets me is like if
(19:45):
there were a one time, just likeBoop Zell, you tap my card,
whatever, but it's always a. Subscription.
It's paperwork. It's a commitment.
Yeah, it's documentation. Yeah, yeah.
It's it's big. I yes, when I was in when in the
throes of the Great Recession of.
(20:06):
Which one? The 2008 one I.
Was like 2000. We've lived through a few.
Yeah, like maybe January 2009, Iwas living in Minnesota and I
was so poor, desperately poor, and I desperately needed a.
Job. That's such a Minnesota way to
say poor. Too poor.
Like it. Yeah.
It's like porridge steerage. I was living in steerage and I
(20:31):
got a job at the Sierra Club where you knock door to door and
try and get people to donate to just the environment in general.
And I raised $0.00 on my first day and I was fired that day.
But I had spent money on good enough boots that I could
actually make it around. In January I was freezing cold.
(20:53):
It was the most miserable day ofmy life.
Door fire salesman in January. Yes, and I I spent more on the
boots than I got paid for that day of work.
You got the boots for work. Yeah, it was.
So I have little to no sympathy and it's because I have a
personal vet you. Have personal, Yeah, personal
mistaking or. Something sawy environment.
(21:13):
I've got a personal vendetta. Can't donate to you right now?
So do you stop and talk? Then yeah, absolutely not.
Yeah. What do you do?
I'm like hell no. OK, I thought you were hell no.
Empathizing with the the door knockers.
No, no, no. And the bell?
No. No, I'm like, I have no charity
to me does the opposite of what it should, which is rich people
(21:36):
will say that charity is what weneed to do to solve like social,
like social cohesion problems, like anything with collective
action. They're like, oh, charity fills
that gap. Anyone who's actually like a
staunch capitalist will say thatit's bullshit and it's just,
it's just getting rid of all theaccountability.
(21:56):
So I don't like charities because I think that it's a bad
way to do collective action. I think we need a different way
to do collective action, and that's all.
That's just me being political. Yeah, as well.
Get black. Yes, get there that's.
Very true. And a lot of time they're not
even working with people who arelike actually in the community
or dealing like boots on the ground with these issues.
(22:17):
Although I have purchased one thing for charity, and that is a
friend of mine went target to dotarget practice with a gun out
in Nebraska. Scary.
Yeah, and political. One of the targets you could get
was the shape of a woman in Pinkfor the Susan B Komen
Foundation. Way they specified the charity
(22:40):
specifics are big in our jobs a piece.
Of paper that was the Susan B Komen target for target
practice. Isn't isn't that a pretty
corrupt 1 wasn't Susan B? Yeah, it's like 0 cents on the
dollar. It's like, it's like, it's such
a calm, strange guy, like he didn't do that.
Sure. But that's like it's so
aggressive. It's so aggressive.
It is an outline of a woman. It yes, and my my friend who is
a woman took it home and framed it and it's up on her.
(23:02):
Did she? Shoot it before she framed it.
She did. Of course she did.
Of course she did. It was amazing.
And she is. She is an art curator, so she
knows what states to roll, and she's Susan Bico.
She's a Second Amendment defending art curator.
That's very that's a statement. So she's trying to keep the
statues up. Then the the monuments.
No, no, no, no. She she'd.
(23:24):
Keep them up if there was paint splashed on them.
Or like, you know, sure, right? I mean art.
She does Native American art specifically, so I don't think
she's a huge colonialist. Statue.
Yes. Yes.
Yes, yes, yes. Yes, yeah, Anyways.
So do you guys like my faux pas?I like I I run into yeah, it's
(23:44):
it's incredible. I I have gotten pretty good.
I do the BLOB. I ignore.
I'm guilty of this. You do the sorry man.
Sorry man, what do you? Say I'm.
Sorry, I think I do a thanks like.
Yeah, no thanks. Sorry man, no thanks.
No thanks. Sorry man, just like that's like
you're a superhero. Yeah.
(24:05):
Just a. Mad Libs of indifferent male.
Just nothing exciting, man. I can't.
I can't. It's good though.
Yeah, it's and yeah, you. I definitely don't do eye
contact until the last possible moment 'cause they 'cause they
see you common they yeah, they try to pinpoint them.
They tried, yeah. I I recently had this outside
the target by house. We live next to a like a city
(24:26):
target. You know, like the smaller ones
that don't have all the good stuff in them.
It's just like, it's like 3 tops.
Do you? Expect target.
A jar of ice cream and then it'slike that's it So like there's a
guy out front and we I'm walkingwith Colleen, my wife and we
have our dog and the dog can't go into the target.
So we have like a strategy set up, somebody sits on the curb
with a dog, the other person goes in and buys it.
So I, we get up to that, we get up, we're in view of the
(24:49):
solicitor. I know he's there, I know he's
got wearing the the smock, the big red smock that has like the
pockets for the pencils and stuff, you know?
Oh yeah, yeah, it's a it's. An apron.
There's no like vertical visual ape.
Like, there's not like Bellerin.He's like, he has a clipboard
and he has a thing. And so I see him come in and
he's an animal rights person with a dog.
(25:09):
So we're already we're a soft spot for him.
So I know, I know to just keep eye, eye level low.
So I take my spot on the curb and Colin just walks right into
his trap and stands there for 20minutes like, 'cause she can't
say no. Yeah.
She's just like, oh, wow. And there's flies in the dog's
eyes. Like, Oh my goodness, this is so
terrible. I'm like, I, I eventually
(25:32):
without this is this is really punishable?
I've I'm have goosebumps even admitting this, but I got it.
Got to a point where I just wentand handed her the dog's leash
and then I went to the Target and bought the stuff because
we're on a schedule. You know we're.
On a schedule, you know. Really good goose care.
No, I'm quite sweaty actually. Wow.
(25:54):
So. We so so where?
Where do you land on this? Is it rude to ignore them?
No, clearly not. Clearly not.
Yeah, yeah. So you have a whole like fun
thing. It's not fun.
It was birthed out of like a deep, like avoidance of what was
being put in my face. So I'm a, I'm a pro, you know,
(26:17):
pro of the. Pro ignore pro.
Pro. Doing it, yeah.
It also kind of works if you're,if you're ever getting a ticket,
like if you park in a place where you're getting a ticket
and they're writing it as you'recoming out.
Sometimes I'll pretend to like be really sick and I'll be like,
I had to get my medicine and I've have gotten out of tickets
(26:39):
because of that. I I've done the exact same thing
but I still got the ticket. I was literally under crushed.
Do you have to list the medicine?
For it. Well, I came in really hot.
I think he was kind of scared, too.
I was like, yeah. I.
Was like, that was just my car, like I had to get my medicine
and the guy was like, it's a yellow and you gotta, I was
like, I just gotta get home. Oh, you're in the loading zone,
(27:01):
so just. Terrorizing the work people of
the public. Yeah, you gotta go in really
fast though, like. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I can't. I can't talk to you right now.
I don't know what. You want.
Survive. I don't know what you're
selling. I don't want.
It yeah, survive. Like, you gotta be so sick that
you're like, I don't care if yougive me a ticket.
I just need to like get out. Exactly.
(27:22):
That bad. Yeah, whatever my medicine.
Yeah, I've got to say, Lizzie, Iaspire to be like you.
It's really powerful. It's.
Incredible. Thank you.
Yeah. And so I don't think there's any
punishments necessary. Please no, I think.
Little. One No, no, no, no, no.
I think I think you yeah, it's it's you got it.
(27:44):
I think what I do is way worse because it's.
No, thank you. Sorry.
Yeah. No, thank you.
Thank you. Sorry man.
Because it's not like. Simon.
It's just hiding from it becauseyou're, because you're, you've
come into it with a character, you step up to the plate.
I do, yeah. Thank you.
And you say your move if you want to interrupt this woman
crying on the phone to her mom. Your move if you want to get
respect. That, yeah, honestly, like I
(28:06):
might. I subscribe to it $15.00 a
month. Yeah, that's true.
Thank you. Those are such nice compliments.
I'm like somewhere in the middlewhere I just like directly tell
them no. I I will say absolutely not.
That is, how much? How much?
Tank you put on the note, you just go no or you were like no.
No, I, I, I feel like I have to be rather firm.
Yeah. So I'll be like, no, I think
that's absolutely not. Respectable and honest, Yeah.
(28:30):
And it shows like your comfortability, you know, in
yourself. Thank you.
Thank you. It also suggests that I might be
against the cause, which I don'tlove because I want to be like,
of course I'm here. Of course I support the cause.
But like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Like, I'm not going to undo that.
Yeah, yeah, both of you are verygood at hiding the guilt.
I wear it. I wear it with my 4 words my
(28:51):
age. Yeah, yeah.
And when you? Hey, one day we turn.
To 33. Now, and you're teenagers, you
know you'll discover that. Something to look forward to, I
guess. Yeah.
Yeah. It's a real burden, trust me.
Yeah. It gives me no pleasure to say
no thanks. Sorry man.
But I think it's, I think it's aproblem.
I think that we all do the rightthing.
We're, I actually support a couple of people.
(29:11):
We're all really good people. Guys, we're like Saints.
Listen, I wasn't going to say it, but she said it.
So I kind of agree. We're all.
Saved. Weird.
This is perfect. Well, is that case closed?
Everybody just ignores solicitors.
Check on my watch. Is it time to go yet?
(29:32):
We can close it, OK. Anything you want to plug real
quick? Girl style.
Thank you girls. Night comedy.
We're doing a variety show whichI don't know when this will come
out. Probably not in time.
OK, but we do a lot of we have all different talents.
So we do improv, I do clown, Jasmine does is going to do a
(29:55):
musical number. Oh.
Danielle has a. Character.
Piece Jasmine play the cello. She'll be playing cello.
But we all do really cool stuff,so it's a variety show.
And our 4th partner, you guys haven't met yet, Hannah Pilcus,
will be there too. So yeah, check us out.
Girls Night. Excellent.
(30:17):
Case closed. Case closed.
Do whatever you want to solicitors.
Yep. This is premeditated.
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