In this enlightening conversation, Michael Ostrolenk talks with Jeff Banman, author of "When It All Goes to Hell: Thoughts on Chaos and Crisis from a CIA Counterterrorism Operator." Banman shares his unique insights drawn from his diverse career experiences as a firefighter, Army Ranger, and CIA operative. He discusses his approach to human performance in high-stress situations, the importance of understanding our intuitive guidance systems, and how to prepare for chaos and crisis in everyday life.
Timestamps: 00:00 - Introduction and background of Jeff Banman
05:30 - Jeff's career path and development of interest in human performance
09:00 - Discussion on finding purpose in every moment and reflection
14:00 - Introduction to the Three C's: Comfort, Confidence, and Creativity
20:00 - Explanation of the SAFE mechanism
27:00 - Discussion of the Intuitive Guidance System
34:00 - The importance of trust in oneself and how it gets eroded
36:45 - The role of the rational mind in crisis situations
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