April 9, 2025 • 42 mins
Strong foundations don't just happen—they're built through consistent, intentional investment over time. When life's storms hit, it's the invisible work of foundation-building that determines whether we stand or fall.
For over two decades, our family has maintained a weekly gathering tradition, bringing together multiple generations for meals and meaningful connection. Nearly 20 years later, grandchildren eagerly anticipate these evenings, texting throughout the day to discover what's for dinner—not from pickiness, but from excitement for both food and fellowship. This consistency has created bonds that withstand the pressures of busy schedules and life's challenges.
The parallels between building foundations in relationships and in physical pursuits like running are striking. Ellen shares her journey of building a running base after years away from the sport, discovering that consistency transforms initial struggle into growing capacity. Just as skipping foundational training leads to physical breakdown during a challenging race, neglecting relationship foundations leaves families vulnerable when conflicts arise.
We reflect on spiritual foundations too, observing how youth who attend church without seeing consistent spiritual practices at home often drift away as adults. The foundation isn't the glamorous part—nobody compliments the concrete work on a beautiful house—but without it, everything else eventually crumbles. Whether in family relationships, spiritual growth, or athletic pursuits, what we invest in consistently reveals what we truly value.
The reward comes in unexpected moments that reveal the foundation's worth—like a teenage son calling his mother during his golf game just to check on her race progress. These connections aren't accidental but result from years of intentional foundation-building that creates relationships capable of weathering any storm.
What foundations are you building today that will support what matters most tomorrow? We'd love to hear about your family traditions and how you're creating stability for the journey ahead.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
hey guys and welcome to episode 12.
We're so glad to be back withy'all and listen.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
We're just on the fly , we're at um, we're at holly's
parents house.
So we've recorded in fourdifferent locations so far in
different setups, so the soundmight be a little bit different
again.
But I'm trying to think of fourdifferent shop locations and
then our normal setting.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Yeah, yeah, but here we are.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
Yep, our dog is running around too and exploring
, so he might be.
If you hear some weird noises,it's Tucker.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
We're definitely in a family environment setting
right now.
We are.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
So we're doing this tonight from here because Monday
nights are family night with myextended family.
So we have been doing familynight for we were talking about
a while ago for probably around20 years, because Kelly, I
didn't even have kids yet whenwe started doing it and Kelly's
kids were young, so Colin andJohn Caton were very young.
(01:04):
And Colin, how old is Colin?
Is he going to be 21 this year?
He'll be 21 in June.
Yeah, so we've been doing thisfor quite a while, mostly on
Mondays.
There has been a few times thatwe've had to do it on Tuesdays,
like depending on when the kidswere in sports.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
Yeah, football schedules and things like that.
Yeah, and stuff like that.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
Practices, but the bottom line is our foundation of
it was that we were gettingtogether one time a week.
Mom has us and Dad they have usat their house.
Mom prepares a meal foreveryone and we eat together and
we just catch up, and sometimeswe're all here at the same time
and sometimes we're all gettingin here at different times and
(01:45):
we might only get to see eachother for maybe 10, 15 minutes
and you know what?
Speaker 2 (01:52):
It's also been on the fly too.
That's the theme for today.
Maybe being on the fly, but ifthey had like a ball game or
something, we would also say allright, it's still family night,
but we're going to go eat at arestaurant together.
Yes, family night is going tobe at the ball field.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
Tonight.
We're all going to be togetherand watch this game together,
and then we're going to go eatsomewhere together.
So it's something that has beena staple in our family for a
long time and I think that's whywe're so close.
And I think about, like whenMark who's the sheriff of the
county when he was running hiscampaign, you know it's like I
(02:30):
remember our family nights werewe were planning, Planning night
, decompression from theprevious week, venting, sharing
experiences.
It was a great opportunity.
In general, we love beingtogether.
Don't you say we do?
Speaker 3 (02:40):
We are a close family and the family night thing has
become such a staple with allthe grandkids that if something
were to happen that we couldn'tdo it, they get highly upset.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Yeah, the grandkids look forward to it too.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
I love the text too, and I'm going to try to make
sure that we're on themicrophones good, because we had
a problem with that last timewe had a guest.
But I love the text that youget during the day on that
family night Well, we have a momall the time.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
What's for dinner?
Speaker 1 (03:09):
And it's not because they're picky or anything.
They're excited.
They're so excited.
They want to know they want toknow, because my mom is an
excellent cook.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
Yes, no, she is, she is.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
She's being modest, so tonight we had amazing this
hamburger casserole that shemakes.
We had butter, beans right,mashed potatoes, cornbread.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
Fried okra.
Fried okra Old school friedokra yeah and we had brownies
for dessert.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
So, yeah, it's a great time that we're all
together and around this bigtable together and the kids are
playing, See.
But summer's coming up and so Ifeel like our family nights get
even better in the summerbecause they're a little slower
and we're not having to rush toget the kids in bed for school
the next day, so we might hangaround your pool, we grill out.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
Play cornhole.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
Yes, now that daylight's same as it is here
the kids will start getting outwhere they're playing and we'll
and wiffle ball.
The kids will start getting outwhere they're playing and we'll
play wiffle ball out there andwe'll join them.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
Y'all play football out there, and I think they're
already making plans for that,because I heard them in
conversation about it, so but Ithink what that?
Speaker 1 (04:17):
the importance of that, though, is that it does
build this foundation with ourchildren and us, that family is
important, that it's importantto spend like and they know they
, like all of us know when wehave a problem or when we're in
need, we can go to our family,but we have a close relationship
like there.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
I remember, probably pretty early on, uh, when y'all
still lived on uhaswell, wasn'tit Right, I mean?
Speaker 1 (04:45):
that's where we lived .
Burgette, burgette, yeah, onBurgette.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
When y'all lived on Burgette, we were doing this and
we had one night where it waslike everybody just went around
the table and gave each other acritique, like a criticism and a
praise, and that night, likeeveryone just kind of bore their
soul and you got it raw Likeyou got it like handed to you on
a silver platter.
(05:09):
This is where you need toimprove and this is where we
think you're, you're, you got itgoing on and and it was very
revealing and I really enjoyedthat.
I was like, wow, there's not alot of families out there that
can do that.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
Do you remember what was said to you?
Speaker 2 (05:25):
I think in general it was so moving.
Well, you know, hey, let'sshare with the world what.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
I think is wrong with me.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
I will share with the world what's wrong with you.
You already do.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
No, this is going to get rough up in here.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
Let's get raw.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
We really have my mom here as a referee.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
Yeah, is supposed to get rough up in here.
Let's get raw.
We really have my mom here as areferee, yeah, yeah.
So so our thoughts for the thepodcast is actually about your
foundation and we've got so manythoughts going through our
heads about our foundation whenit comes to our running, if
you're yeah, when we actually golive on youtube.
Look at our notes it's there incase we need to look something
up.
Yeah, but and and I'm a no, I'ma no person.
Y'all know that.
We've already mentioned thatbefore, and we were talking
about it.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
Let's go, let's just do this and let's talk about
family.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
Yeah, but but your family is your foundation, you
know, and I heard one guy onetime say that you need to raise,
try to raise your.
Your goal should be to raiseyour kids in a manner so that
they don't even imagine livingaway from you.
And I think about that when Italk to coworkers and guys that
I worked with in the past andthey've got family members and
kids that have moved off statesaway and it's just hard to
(06:35):
imagine that.
I pray that doesn't happen withour kids.
I know that life is differentfor different people.
You go into the military orsomething like that, then
there's going to be distancesput in there in different
situations.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
Just the callings that God has on your children?
Speaker 2 (06:47):
Yeah, you never know, and at least with that you know
, but there should always bethat foundation that you build
with them so that there's alwaysa comfortability and an
understanding that you canalways come home period and that
you want to be home.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
Oh yeah, I think that's the thing.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
Or that, yeah, I, I want to go back home, right,
yeah, right.
Um, and I think you know, whenwe were growing up, me and my
sister, um, I think that you anddad did give us a really good
foundation as in like, there wassuch consistency there when it
came to going to church, I guess, because I see in today's time
I've been able to.
I've been in church since I wasthat.
I remember dad pastoring two,was that right, you were about
(07:31):
two yeah so it's been.
I don't know, a different lifeand so I've been able to see
people come and go in the churchand I've seen families that
weren't consistent and thenbecause this was actually talked
about in church yesterday aboutlike teenagers, like once they
get out of the youth group andthey get into, like, I guess,
(07:53):
that young adulthood, they fallaway from church, and we could
do a whole podcast about thepositives and negatives of youth
groups.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
It can be a crutch and where it's really there's
not a really good firmfoundation being built in youth
groups, because then they justthese kids, don't know where
they belong.
Once they've kind of graduatedout of that.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
Yeah, it's like, once you get out of the fun zone,
what do I do?
Speaker 1 (08:20):
And it's like like youth groups can get so so
centered on yes, and it's likelike youth groups can get so so
centered on yes, making this fun, making this entertaining.
We got to take you to thisconference, take you to that,
and then all that ends andthey're like you know, what do I
do now?
And it's like, well, it'sreally about your relationship
with God and it shouldn't change, no matter what your age is
(08:40):
right, whether you've aged outof a youth group or not.
But we know this because Calvinand I served in youth group for
many years and we saw this exactsame thing happen and we would
have kids that would come onWednesday nights and their
parents weren't coming onWednesday nights, or kids that
might come on Sunday nights andtheir parents weren't coming on
(09:00):
Sunday nights.
So then, by the time theybecame an adult, they weren't
coming on Sunday nights becausethat foundation was not built.
And that might seem harsh, butit's just truth.
It's just truth, but in ourhome it was.
And you might be like well,your dad was the pastor.
He was always going to be there.
Well, not if he was a badpastor.
(09:21):
That's true.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
He could be like we're not having services on
Wednesday night or Sunday night,so Ellen, how many families
could you guess have come andgone in yours and Don's
ministries that you felt like itwas a foundational problem,
like it was something.
There wasn't a foundation.
It was just kind of like afly-by-night, like a trend or
something like that, and therewasn't a commitment, All of them
(09:47):
.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
I think, as a pastor and a pastor's wife, God gives
you insight.
He does.
I mean you have to have that tobe able to pastor a church.
You have to have that insightabout your people and I would
dare say that families that wehave lost.
It was a foundational problem,Because when your foundation is
(10:13):
strong and it's firm and it'ssteady, when problems do arise
you're going to know what youneed to do instantaneously on
how to solve that, and you'renot going to be happy until it
is resolved.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
And those that have foundational problems.
That's just not there.
That rock solidness is notthere.
Yeah, to know what to do.
Agreed.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
I saw a quote today that was I'm going to misquote
it, but it was by CS Lewis andit had something to do with.
Every doubt or worry that weexperience is atheism.
It's a lack of faith that Godhas everything in control.
(11:02):
When you let the world uminfluence you and draw you away,
you aren't really trulybelieving and founded on Christ,
and I think that that a lot offamilies um uh struggle with
that foundation because of notnecessarily just one member of
the other, but being together onwhat their goals are and their
(11:26):
relationship with Christ.
Um you, you have to be a solid.
You know.
There's a reason why Godcreated it the way that he did,
why there's a mother and afather, and then there's kids,
and there's roles in thoserelationships that God desires
for it to be in a certain way.
Um so that, so that each role,you know, supports each other.
Um and and when you don't havesupport from certain directions
(11:49):
or certain ways or pathways ofperspectives, yeah, that it's
easy for the one who is strongto be dragged down.
There was a guy that was uh hadhis daughter on a chair and he
said give me your hand.
And he pulled her down and thenshe got, he said now you get
down and I'm going to try topull you up.
(12:11):
And it was like vice versa itwas a lot easier for him to pull
her down than it was for her topull him up.
In other words, if you're withsomeone or in a situation where
you're not both focused andfounded on Christ, it's really
easy to be drawn away Easierdrawn away than it is to try to
draw someone to Christ.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
Does that make sense?
Yes, and.
I think the foundation is likethe most important part of it
all.
It's like on a house the mostimportant part is the foundation
correct and a lot of timeswe've seen this because we've
done like tornado cleanups andstuff we we all have together
here.
We've seen where the houseswere wiped out, but the
foundation was still there,right?
Speaker 2 (12:53):
well, one house where the foundation, the slab was
actually picked up and shifted,but it was still where it was
supposed to be.
Yes, and it's like it was there.
Even though it was rocked, itwas moved, it was still there.
It wasn't going anywhere, itcouldn't pick it up it.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
It did its best, but you know sometimes building the
foundation is is a really laborintensive work expensive, it's
expensive it's not the mostglamorous part of it, like when
I think about the house you'renot like.
Look at that great foundation.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
Good, concrete work, man You're not.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
You're like, oh, look at those windows or look at
that roof pitch or look at thoseshutters or look at the brick.
Speaker 3 (13:31):
You know, and things like that.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
But oh my goodness, like if it doesn't have a good
foundation.
Because we know we had a housethat we bought our own
inspection on it and they werelike, hey, you know, your house
isn't supported well underneathhere.
And we're like, oh my goodness,and it didn't matter how pretty
the house was.
You know if it wasn't supportedright then we were going to have
a huge problem.
So we can even and you know,guys, that we're always going to
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go back to running.
So my mom here is.
She is working on building herbase in running.
She has super she has ran.
Have you run two or three 5ksbefore?
Speaker 3 (14:09):
uh, I think there's three.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
I think there's three in my past wait have you ran
miles for molly, twice or once,just one time, okay, once.
Okay, so once, and then you'vedone our run.
Speaker 3 (14:19):
I did and and there was something else I very
stupidly did one at Heritage.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
Oh wow, the Hills.
I think I talked about that one, the Hills of Heritage.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
That was my first one , yeah we didn't know what we
were doing.
We didn't even have the rightshoes or anything.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
You didn't have a good foundation?
Speaker 1 (14:38):
No, we did not, we didn't even know that we needed
a foundation, good foundation.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
we didn't even know that we needed a foundation.
We were just like we're justgonna go run, oh my goodness.
Of course I was a lot youngerthen, but that still did not
matter.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
It doesn't and I will tell you this age does not
matter in running trainingconsistency so yeah, anyway, my
mom, right now, because youhaven't been doing it
consistently for a very longtime, right, because, like you,
the obviously that first run wasway many years ago and then
you've kind of teetered andtottered with, played around
(15:09):
with some running.
Speaker 3 (15:10):
I have kind of, you know, running was my thing when
I was a teenager.
I really got into it then wedidn't have a track team or any
kind of running thing at school.
No program, but it was justsomething that I got into on my
own.
It was something I enjoyeddoing.
I would strap on the littleweights around my ankles and I
take off and I do five and sixmiles and I would do that
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anywhere from three to fourtimes a week just up and down
the roads.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Well, where else when you'reyeah?
Speaker 1 (15:39):
yeah, I, I did that, so this would have been in the
70s, or oh yeah yeah, yeah, Iremember doing that quite a bit
of county road one okay, yeahyeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
But um, now, I mean, I've done that off and on
through my life.
Of course.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
You get married and you have kids and yeah, life
happens now wait a minute, butI've done it off and on my whole
life, connie Road 1.
Did you go up the big hill fromthe bridge going into Cleveland
?
No, oh chicken, that was a bighill.
I was like, oh my goodness,it's like a mountain.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
No, I didn't go down that hill.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
Okay, that was fun on a bike when I was growing up.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
Yeah, I would kind of well.
Now there's the hill you knowthe other way, going back
towards Oneonta.
I did go up that one some.
Okay, yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
All right, but anyway you've played around with
running.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
I did, and then you know, and then I got back into
it.
When the grandkids got older, Igot back into it, and then mom
got sick and I got back into it,and then mom got sick and I got
back out of it.
Yes, and so that's been what athree or four year span that I
wasn't running, and so I pickedit back up so how?
Speaker 1 (16:49):
how many weeks are you into your program?
Right now, I'm into my fourthweek, your fourth week, how's it
?
Speaker 3 (16:54):
going.
It's going pretty good.
Okay, I've really surprisedmyself yeah yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
But it is one of those things.
It's like you really are havingto start over.
I am Because I know that I didLike last summer I started over
from because I had ran and thenI stopped running for like a
good three or four months andit's like I have to start over
again, building that base again.
But building the base is soimportant and I know that you'll
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be able to add more to thisconversation by the time,
because I think your goal raceis in July, right it?
is yeah, and who knows, youmight run some before then We'll
see, because there will bemiles for Molly.
Speaker 3 (17:34):
Yeah, and I would like to do that.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
Yeah, yeah.
So anyway, she will be able toadd even more to this about how
important what she's doing rightnow is for those runs that are
going to be in the future, andthat's why it is so important to
build that firm foundation forour children.
And we've talked about this.
I think we were talking aboutthe aunt preparing for the next
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day.
You do need to only be thinkingabout today, but what you do
today is going.
What's going to make tomorrowbetter?
right, and that's the same thingwith this foundation.
It's going to take work, butit's the most important work
that you will do it is.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
It is.
It's really important that you,that you, when you're making a
plan and you're following it'slike you, both of y'all follow a
an online plan and I just kindof jump in there where I can um
calvin does.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
He's like hey, jude, what are you supposed to?
Where are you running today?
Run that with him.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
And then he'll ask me , and he'll go run that with me
and just hope that they're notboth running a hard run
consecutive days.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
You're really not a long business runner, are you?
Speaker 2 (18:35):
for the most part, no , but I'll tell you this part.
I'll tell you part I have saidthis so many times since we
started running that like rightaround mile four or five my neck
really starts getting to me myback from old back injuries and
stuff like that.
And but since I've beenconsistently running, I've
surprised myself that I've donesome really long runs with with
Holly and a couple with Jude,where it's like I have no pain
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and everything.
It's like consistency, likeconsistency really I do believe
it's paying off and allowing myback to be able to get stronger
in and actually be able to buildup that thing.
Now we're just talking aboutwhen you have breaks away from
it.
You try to come back to it,like your body is I think I've
mentioned this before, but lackof better words evolve.
Your body is evolving in andcreating itself, uh, to be able
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to be resilient in the activitythat you most pursue.
So if you most pursue sittingon your fanny and watching
Netflix, it's going to optimizeyour body to sit on your fanny
and watch Netflix.
You will not have a cute littlebooty, but if you work, but if
you constantly, it'll cushionand shake.
I can attest to that It'll havecushioned dimples, cushioned
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shakes.
It'll have cushioned dimples.
But if you consistently putyour body in a manner that it's
happened to heal and recover andbuild muscles and and
strengthen joints and lubricatethose joints, keeping them
mobile, um, you know, likeimagine ellen, when you first
got out there starting thisplane, you were like where's the
oil?
Can you know?
Yeah, and then then give itprobably like week two, going
into week three.
It's like your recovery is somuch shorter.
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You know, by the next dayyou're like okay, what's next?
You know, um, because you havea consistent track of of making
your body recognize thatactivity.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
I will say this too, though, because I did just run
my half marathon two days ago,and I PR'd.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
Yep, I didn't know if you want to talk about that.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
And I really pushed myself and I'm really hurting,
like my legs hurt so bad, my hipflexors hurt so bad.
So even in that consistent I'mthinking about, if I didn't have
a base at all, what I wouldactually feel like.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
You would have been walking.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
So it doesn't matter, like if I let's say that I run
13 or 14 miles in my trainingprogram, I'm not running that at
a race pace, like because I wasracing at like an eight minute
pace for the whole thing.
Average a lot of it.
I was running in the sevens andthen there was some, because
there was a lot of hills in thisthat I was running into, like
the 820s and things like that.
So by the time it averaged out,I was running about an eight
minute pace.
Well, when you do that, likeI'm, I'm going I'm going to be
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using muscles in my legs thatare not consistently getting
used like all the time.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
For that, long of a time, yeah, that much power
right yeah, so that's why I'mgoing to.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
I'm going to feel that.
So I'm going to feel thatsoreness, just like she felt,
that soreness of running a mileat a slower pace, because I'm
still building my base For yourevent, for where you're at
you're building that base forthe next level.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
Yes, and you know I watched a it it was funny.
There's a fitness influence outthere that a lot of people
started kind of making fun ofand I'm like, oh, cause I've
been following him for a while,just because it was what he did
was unique.
But I was watching the slowmotion of him running the other
day and it was kind of abreakdown of his stride and, uh,
when his leg hit the ground andI saw how much his muscles
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shifted and flip-flopped all theway around his leg.
And you don't think about howmuch movement happens in your
muscles when you're running andyou're jarring and it's jerking
and it's literally stretchingyour tendons away from your bone
, right, you're trying to buildthe strength of your tendons,
those joints, those muscles, tobe able to do that.
And the faster you go go, theharder the impact and the more
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stress on your muscles.
And this guy was going.
He was probably running at likea 18 minute pace, like a per
mile, 18 mile an hour pace, likehe was.
He was, it was a sprint right.
So the impact was extreme, likeand I'm like, wow, man, these,
this guy, can be ripped, butthem muscles are taking a
beating, you know, and if hedidn't have that base and he
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tried to run at that speed, um,without ever running before, and
just did, like you know,lifting and things like that, if
he didn't have that runningbase he could very easily tear
something, very easily injurehimself yeah but it's like we
put ourselves through that everytime we elevate our running
game.
You know when I start realizingthat I can run a little longer
it's because I've built myselfto think about that in life,
(23:09):
though.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
Okay, let's just say that, like right now, mom, like
you're not ready to go run 13.1miles at an eight minute pace
right.
So like if she went and didthat she would like destroy
herself.
Like she would not be able to doit correct just the same thing
is I couldn't go out there andrun it at a six minute pace.
I would feel the exact same waythat she would feel.
Um, I think that's why it is soimportant to build that base,
(23:32):
because I think about as afamily, uh, when those problems
do come up, um, if we don't havethat base together, it can
really tear us apart.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
Right, that's right, um nobody wants to go to family
night.
Angry you're gonna, you'regonna want to resolve it because
, because you're not forsakingfamily no, I'm just saying.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
I'm just saying when you, when you're struggling with
something, I understand whereyou're coming from yeah, because
life is gonna is going tohappen and as much as we all
love each other, we're allreally different and we all got
our different opinions aboutthings right.
We don't always agree we don't,but at the end of the day, we
all love each other and samething within your own family.
(24:17):
The storms of life, Things aregoing to try to shake your
foundation.
So, is your foundation strongenough to handle it?
You know, are we living theJoshua In Joshua, where he says
as for me and my house, we willserve the Lord, Like I think you
guys have that on at the end ofyour driveway.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
It's on a rock.
Speaker 1 (24:37):
As soon as you pull into my parents' driveway
there's a huge rock that says asfor me and my house, we will
serve the Lord.
I know that y'all aren'tperfect, but y'all have really
tried to live your lives thatway.
Y'all have built a greatfoundation for us, for your
grandchildren.
I know, for gosh, before youknow it, you might be a great
grandmother.
Speaker 3 (24:58):
That just comes from a personal relationship with the
lord.
Yeah, that desire to want thatand to, to do things that are
pleasing for him, not todisappoint him and I know that I
do a lot, because I'm not aperfect person, yeah, but that
foundation comes from the desireto want that, to want that good
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life, and that comes from whatchrist has instilled in me to
want that, to want that goodlife, and that comes from what
Christ has instilled in me, towant that, and it's not easy.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
No, it's not.
It's a choice every day.
It's a battle I feel like whenwe read our Bible every day.
We're still building thatfoundation right.
We're still working on ourfoundation.
Speaker 3 (25:36):
As long as we live here on this earth, it's always
going to be a battle between theflesh and the spirit.
That's just the way it is.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
You know, growing up in church, being raised in
church, participating in church,ministering in church my entire
life, basically I still amamazed at how much newness God
brings to me through his word.
You know, it's like there'snever enough to learn about God
because he is justall-encompassing.
(26:04):
And if you think about how muchyou know as a human, when
you're like, okay compared tothis computer, like I know
nothing compared to Google, well, it's like we haven't even
hardly even touched the hem ofhis garment when it comes to
understanding our God and howmuch he really does truly love
us and want to exalt us andbuild us up.
(26:25):
You know, a lot of times wetake it for granted how much he
wants to just pour out Hisblessing on us, mm-hmm, and
we'll think that we're unworthy,sometimes, so many times,
because we're like I'm not goodenough or I'm not strong enough
or I'm not.
You know where I need to be.
And it's like, well, he doesn'tsay get where you need to be
and then I will bless you.
Get where you need to be and Iwill be with you.
(26:46):
He says I will be with you andI will bless you, no matter
where you're at, and then we'llwork through this together.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
That's right and I think that having those
foundations solid in all areasfamily, spiritual life, when it
comes to your finances and Iwould say from a personal
standpoint, that's somethingthat we've always had to really
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work on, because your financesyou can just get bogged down
with life and you feel like youdon't have time to sit down down
and do that foundational workthat you need to do.
You know like balance in yourcheckbook and stuff like that.
You know like it's so important, right, um, if you're wanting
to build wealth for the futureor, you know um, have a nest egg
(27:35):
for your children.
I'm sorry if I hope that y'allguys can hear me because I keep
talking away from the microphone.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
You're going back and forth, that's all.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
But I just feel like this theme keeps coming up about
how important it is for us tohave that foundation and how
important it is for us to haveour family.
God gave us each other rightand, um, I can't imagine wanting
to do this life without myfamily.
There's nobody that's going tobe in my corner more than my
(28:08):
family.
I was thinking too when I ranuh, that run this week there was
, you know, because I wasvlogging that this whole program
there were people that werereaching out to me how did you
do?
How did you do?
And it was like, oh, theyreally were invested, you know
what I'm saying.
But when I got this phone call,it was from Jude, my 15-year-old
(28:31):
son, that I'm just begging forthe crumbs from the table from
him, any bit of attention thathe might give me.
I'm like, yes, you know.
So he calls, and my firstthought was because I knew that
he was going to be going into ashift at the shop and.
I thought something was wrong.
And no, he was out on the golfcourse.
(28:52):
So he stopped playing his golfgame and he was just like I just
wanted to see how you did.
And he was so excited.
He was like how did you do, mom?
And then I got to just havethat full blown conversation
with him and he was so happy forme and he was like, cause he
had detailed it out like how hethought that the topography
might be for me and things likethat, and he was spot on, he
(29:14):
really was, and I was tellinghim that and he was gloating
about that a little bit.
And then I got off the phonewith him and I'm sitting across
the table from Calvin and Calvinhas, because Calvin's the
sensitive one in ourrelationship he's kind of got
tears in his eyes and he waslike y'all are always going to
have that and I'm like that's afoundation that we've built.
(29:40):
Yes, right, and our familyreally has too.
But there there was justsomething with me and you in the
running, because I've had totake him to to running.
You know, um gosh, he knowswhat that's like he does he
knows the work you put into that.
He knows what that feels like heknows what his mom just went
through.
Yeah, you know to be able toaccomplish that and just that.
He was invested in that andit's like, because we have a
(30:00):
good foundation, we have a goodrelationship together, no matter
if he is 15 and you know thosemoments, yeah, yeah and I mean I
know I hate it when peoplestart with I mean, but I just
said, uh, when you're investedin something, um, you see that
(30:21):
it has value.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
You know, like, I'm not going to invest my funds or
my finances something I don'tfind value in.
Um, we were talking about thiswith, like, instead of buying a
bunch of clothing by staple,items that have value, that
you're going to be able to mixand match, and things like that,
trying to reduce your closetload and things like that.
But when it comes to ourrelationship with Christ, if we
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view that as value, we're goingto spend time and effort
investing into it.
If we view that ourrelationship with our family is
worth the investment we're goingto spend time doing that is
worth the investment we're goingto spend time doing that.
And I think about what couldhave our household look like now
if the things that we started20 years ago with Family Night
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and the things that your fatherstarted with the church 20 plus
years ago being a minister andstarting y'all's church Like,
where would we be if, if itdidn't have any value to you?
Um, it, there's value in it, andsometimes it can be stressful.
We've seen some stressfulmoments that y'all have had to
go through, and and and.
(31:30):
There's been some struggles andit's like you know, yes, we're,
we're.
We're in a world full of peopleand with people comes problems.
I think Mark says that a lot.
Why churches have so manyproblems?
Speaker 1 (31:41):
because there's people in them, it's full of
people.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
It's full of people.
People have problems, but it'sworth it, there's value in it.
So you invest in it and you seethe rewards, and you see those
shining moments where people arecloser to the Lord or closer to
their family, or moving furtheralong in whatever their venture
is that they find value in.
And it's exciting when you seethat growth and when, when, when
(32:04):
your son calls you and it'slike wow, this investment that I
put in, like this hard workthere's.
There's going to be moments ofimpression that you know are
going to be lifetime impressions.
Speaker 1 (32:13):
Because, yeah, like, even though I'm sitting there
thinking and I was really, youknow, I wanted to pass out at
that point too.
So I was like at the lowest ofmy lows and how my body felt at
that point.
But I've always said that therunning started with him, with
you, like that was the wholepoint of it all, and it's like
that kind of came a full circleright there.
Even though I hadn't come upthere and done that run, all it
(32:36):
was by myself, you weren'trunning that run, you were just
there to support me.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
I was running around, you were he was.
Speaker 1 (32:42):
He was.
He was chasing me around and Ihad to tell a little tale on
myself because you know I'mrunning.
And then all of a sudden Iwould hear something like You're
doing great, and it's him.
(33:04):
And he's got his little phoneup.
You know he's taking a picture.
And I was like happy and joyful, mile eight, I could have hurt
somebody like I was.
I was running angry at thatpoint because I wanted to be
over.
I was really thinking aboutgetting a DNF.
I have talked about that beforethat I would never want to see
DNF by my name, and that meansdid not finish, and there's also
DNS did not start.
Um, I don't want to see DNF bymy name, and that means did not
finish.
And there's also DNS did notstart.
I don't want either one ofthose on there.
But hey, if it happens, ithappens.
(33:24):
But I was like no, the only wayI'm getting a DNF is it's going
to be a did not fail.
But at mile eight I reallymentally was falling apart.
Speaker 2 (33:35):
Yeah, and see, I don't see this up to this point
he don't and.
But right before I did see I'llgive her the prequel to what
you're about to say but rightbefore you turn the corner where
I knew I was going to be ableto intercept you, I got a text
message that was following alongwith you and it said her
average pace at this mile isthis much time and her pace is
(33:55):
this much.
It's like 8, 15 or somethinglike that yeah and I was like,
oh good data that I can feed her.
I was like I can support her bytelling her exactly where she's
at, okay, and then she comesaround the corner.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
Here we go, okay and, mind you, I know exactly where
I'm at and I'm, I'm mad.
I'm mad that I'm at an 8, 15,okay, because I'm like I don't
know how much more gas I've gotinside of me.
You know, I really felt like thelittle puttery old I'm
imagining like a.
At that point, like at thebeginning of the race, I felt a
Corvette.
At this point I'm a Pinto,complete, rusted out Pinto, okay
(34:29):
, and I am just puttering alongand I know exactly what my pace
is.
I'm mad about it because Iwanted to be running that run in
the sevens the whole time.
Okay, it didn't happen, but Istill did.
I still met my goal, but anyway.
And then here he is and he's gotthat little phone up, you know
whatever, and I wasn't evengonna look at him and he was
(34:50):
like you're doing great, yourpace is blah, blah, blah, blah,
blah, blah, blah.
And you see me, I didn't evenshare this video.
I raised my hand.
I'm like I don't care If Iwasn't, if I didn't have a
Christ foundation, I may havebeen making other gestures, is
all I got to say at that point.
(35:11):
That had nothing to do with him.
I was just so running mad andI'm like I did say this.
I said I don't want to hear thetruth right now.
Speaker 3 (35:20):
I don't want to hear it.
I already know it and I don'twant to hear it from you so?
Speaker 2 (35:24):
have you ever seen like a dog, when you get onto
them and they tuck their tailbetween their legs and they turn
around and they saunter away?
That's kind of how I felt atthat moment.
You know, it's like a whoop dog, you know.
But no, no, no, no, no, no, no,serious on a serious note,
serious note, I understood yeahwe've been running together way
long enough for me to understandwhat's going on in your head at
(35:46):
that moment I know you and Idid not take personal offense to
that.
Yes, I did not, because Iunderstood that you are doing
something hard and you were andand that and that, like, like I
knew that, like you needed thatrelease, you needed that, that
mental release, to be able topush through and I'm like, okay,
(36:08):
I'll take it, I'm okay withthat.
Speaker 3 (36:09):
Yes, well, I mean, you get there too and you
realize that that course is notwhat you thought it was going to
be.
Speaker 1 (36:16):
I was having to overcome that too, because I
because that would be in yourhead in that first part for a
while.
I was running in the sevens, soI was running hills in the
seven, and I shouldn't have, butI didn't.
I and you know, and you didtell me the topography of it.
I just still did not have aclear understanding of how steep
(36:36):
these hills were, though, so Ipushed myself too much in the
beginning, so it made me run outof gas at the end, and I hate
when I do that, because what Ishould have done is I should
have ran that part slower sothat I could have really gassed
at the end and it could haveshaved more seconds or even a
minute off of my time, um, whenyou really get down to it.
But it's okay.
(36:57):
It's not the end of the world,but I do remember like coming
through the finish line too.
I don't I don't address calvinat all, because at that I'd have
nothing else left inside of me.
This is the first race where Ifelt such a weird pain and
horrible feeling in my legs.
I thought I I was going to passout.
I had given it my all and theydid have.
(37:18):
They had massage people overthere and I did eventually go
over there, but I didn't addressyou, probably for a good Eight
to ten minutes oh.
I thought it was five.
No, sorry.
Speaker 2 (37:33):
I did.
I stood off.
I stood off because I saw youcome through and you grabbed
your water and you headed downthis hill.
I stood off.
I stood off because I saw youcome through and you grabbed
your water and you headed downthis hill.
Speaker 3 (37:39):
I just started walking and you just started
walking and I stood.
Speaker 2 (37:41):
it might not have been that long, it was probably,
it might've been five minutes,but you didn't.
You didn't give me the coldshoulder, but you were just
decompressing and you weretrying to find yourself
basically recenter, you know,and I and I watched you and then
, as soon as I felt like yourbody language changed, I was
like okay, she's good now and Iwent and he was just like he,
like he was gonna cry.
Speaker 1 (38:01):
He's like I'm just so proud of you.
And then he was like when I andhe, like he, started thinking
he's like when I think aboutwhat you actually just did, I
remember like you came overthere and said that you're like
he had just he was thinking, ohmy gosh, to run for that far at
that pace and the level ofdifficulty of those hills,
(38:24):
because there was women throwingup in bushes in the first half
of the race.
Speaker 2 (38:29):
Now you haven't even told your results yet, but I'll
brag on you 100%.
I will brag on you.
Out of almost 800 runners,runners, you finished 16th yeah,
it was great um, and and Ithere's, no, no, there's no
doubt in my mind that theconsistently consistent training
(38:50):
that you put in over the lasthowever many weeks it's been
since you decided or found outyou were going to be doing this
run you said I'm setting thisprogram and I'm sticking to it.
The only thing that held youback was when you had a brief
injury and you had to reduce oneof your runs and skip one day
(39:10):
and add some to another.
There was like that, was it theconsistency that you pushed for
this and a lot of it it took.
You pushed for this and a lotof it it took, you know, working
around some things and andsqueezing some things in
sometimes and doing somerearranging and.
But there was intention to it,you know, and it didn't.
The thing about the that Iadmire the most is that it
didn't take away from the familyoh good it didn't.
(39:33):
You know, um, if jude's atpractice and you're running, you
know there's.
You know there, you knowthere's things that, like some
people would be like and I havea hard time understanding like
sometimes going to the marathonlevel.
It's like there's such anotherlevel of time dedication to that
.
But what you did with this likeyou're trying to perfect that
(39:53):
distance rather than be let'ssee how far I can run it's like
how fast can I run this distance?
Um and uh, and, and you alwayshad the family first, even in
your, even in your training, butyou still got it in and I
admire that it takes a lot ofdedication.
Speaker 1 (40:10):
Thank you, Hard, hard work, and I am I'm not going to
train for one for a littlewhile.
We already kind of discussedthis that I'm going to start
working on trying to perfect my5K time and it will help me when
I start training again foranother half marathon, but I'm
kind of done with my distanceright now.
I want to focus on some otherthings, because my focus is
(40:32):
going to start leaning towardsJude and his running, because
he'll be moving into summerconditioning.
Start leaning towards, uh, judeand his running, because he'll
be moving into summerconditioning and, um, you know,
I really have ran these longdistances and done this hard
training when it's not hisseason of of running, so, um,
but we have built a foundationand, uh, our family does have a
(40:52):
foundation on jesus, on runningon on coffee, that is for sure.
Yeah, we did, and Mom thanksfor joining us on this one.
Speaker 2 (41:01):
I know we were like, hey, come on, it's kind of a
last-minute thing Because wewere just in there talking about
your running and it's like youknow, let's just make it happen,
let's just talk and bring theconversation over and thank you
for being consistent in ourfamily knots.
Speaker 1 (41:16):
I know it's not easy.
You getting in there and makingthese really huge meals for
everybody and cleaning up thekitchen, and you do it and you
don't complain.
Speaker 3 (41:25):
Well, it's because I like doing it, I like having, I
like being my family centeredaround me.
I just you know that's the joyof my life.
Speaker 2 (41:40):
Well, you're the joy of ours, so we love you.
We love you.
Speaker 1 (41:41):
Thank y'all for joining us tonight or today,
whenever you're listening thatthe lord will bless you and keep
you and make his face shineupon you, and we will see you
next time.
hey guys and welcome to episode 12.
We're so glad to be back withy'all and listen.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
We're just on the fly , we're at um, we're at holly's
parents house.
So we've recorded in fourdifferent locations so far in
different setups, so the soundmight be a little bit different
again.
But I'm trying to think of fourdifferent shop locations and
then our normal setting.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Yeah, yeah, but here we are.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
Yep, our dog is running around too and exploring
, so he might be.
If you hear some weird noises,it's Tucker.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
We're definitely in a family environment setting
right now.
We are.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
So we're doing this tonight from here because Monday
nights are family night with myextended family.
So we have been doing familynight for we were talking about
a while ago for probably around20 years, because Kelly, I
didn't even have kids yet whenwe started doing it and Kelly's
kids were young, so Colin andJohn Caton were very young.
(01:04):
And Colin, how old is Colin?
Is he going to be 21 this year?
He'll be 21 in June.
Yeah, so we've been doing thisfor quite a while, mostly on
Mondays.
There has been a few times thatwe've had to do it on Tuesdays,
like depending on when the kidswere in sports.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
Yeah, football schedules and things like that.
Yeah, and stuff like that.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
Practices, but the bottom line is our foundation of
it was that we were gettingtogether one time a week.
Mom has us and Dad they have usat their house.
Mom prepares a meal foreveryone and we eat together and
we just catch up, and sometimeswe're all here at the same time
and sometimes we're all gettingin here at different times and
(01:45):
we might only get to see eachother for maybe 10, 15 minutes
and you know what?
Speaker 2 (01:52):
It's also been on the fly too.
That's the theme for today.
Maybe being on the fly, but ifthey had like a ball game or
something, we would also say allright, it's still family night,
but we're going to go eat at arestaurant together.
Yes, family night is going tobe at the ball field.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
Tonight.
We're all going to be togetherand watch this game together,
and then we're going to go eatsomewhere together.
So it's something that has beena staple in our family for a
long time and I think that's whywe're so close.
And I think about, like whenMark who's the sheriff of the
county when he was running hiscampaign, you know it's like I
(02:30):
remember our family nights werewe were planning, Planning night
, decompression from theprevious week, venting, sharing
experiences.
It was a great opportunity.
In general, we love beingtogether.
Don't you say we do?
Speaker 3 (02:40):
We are a close family and the family night thing has
become such a staple with allthe grandkids that if something
were to happen that we couldn'tdo it, they get highly upset.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Yeah, the grandkids look forward to it too.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
I love the text too, and I'm going to try to make
sure that we're on themicrophones good, because we had
a problem with that last timewe had a guest.
But I love the text that youget during the day on that
family night Well, we have a momall the time.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
What's for dinner?
Speaker 1 (03:09):
And it's not because they're picky or anything.
They're excited.
They're so excited.
They want to know they want toknow, because my mom is an
excellent cook.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
Yes, no, she is, she is.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
She's being modest, so tonight we had amazing this
hamburger casserole that shemakes.
We had butter, beans right,mashed potatoes, cornbread.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
Fried okra.
Fried okra Old school friedokra yeah and we had brownies
for dessert.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
So, yeah, it's a great time that we're all
together and around this bigtable together and the kids are
playing, See.
But summer's coming up and so Ifeel like our family nights get
even better in the summerbecause they're a little slower
and we're not having to rush toget the kids in bed for school
the next day, so we might hangaround your pool, we grill out.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
Play cornhole.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
Yes, now that daylight's same as it is here
the kids will start getting outwhere they're playing and we'll
and wiffle ball.
The kids will start getting outwhere they're playing and we'll
play wiffle ball out there andwe'll join them.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
Y'all play football out there, and I think they're
already making plans for that,because I heard them in
conversation about it, so but Ithink what that?
Speaker 1 (04:17):
the importance of that, though, is that it does
build this foundation with ourchildren and us, that family is
important, that it's importantto spend like and they know they
, like all of us know when wehave a problem or when we're in
need, we can go to our family,but we have a close relationship
like there.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
I remember, probably pretty early on, uh, when y'all
still lived on uhaswell, wasn'tit Right, I mean?
Speaker 1 (04:45):
that's where we lived .
Burgette, burgette, yeah, onBurgette.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
When y'all lived on Burgette, we were doing this and
we had one night where it waslike everybody just went around
the table and gave each other acritique, like a criticism and a
praise, and that night, likeeveryone just kind of bore their
soul and you got it raw Likeyou got it like handed to you on
a silver platter.
(05:09):
This is where you need toimprove and this is where we
think you're, you're, you got itgoing on and and it was very
revealing and I really enjoyedthat.
I was like, wow, there's not alot of families out there that
can do that.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
Do you remember what was said to you?
Speaker 2 (05:25):
I think in general it was so moving.
Well, you know, hey, let'sshare with the world what.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
I think is wrong with me.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
I will share with the world what's wrong with you.
You already do.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
No, this is going to get rough up in here.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
Let's get raw.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
We really have my mom here as a referee.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
Yeah, is supposed to get rough up in here.
Let's get raw.
We really have my mom here as areferee, yeah, yeah.
So so our thoughts for the thepodcast is actually about your
foundation and we've got so manythoughts going through our
heads about our foundation whenit comes to our running, if
you're yeah, when we actually golive on youtube.
Look at our notes it's there incase we need to look something
up.
Yeah, but and and I'm a no, I'ma no person.
Y'all know that.
We've already mentioned thatbefore, and we were talking
about it.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
Let's go, let's just do this and let's talk about
family.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
Yeah, but but your family is your foundation, you
know, and I heard one guy onetime say that you need to raise,
try to raise your.
Your goal should be to raiseyour kids in a manner so that
they don't even imagine livingaway from you.
And I think about that when Italk to coworkers and guys that
I worked with in the past andthey've got family members and
kids that have moved off statesaway and it's just hard to
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imagine that.
I pray that doesn't happen withour kids.
I know that life is differentfor different people.
You go into the military orsomething like that, then
there's going to be distancesput in there in different
situations.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
Just the callings that God has on your children?
Speaker 2 (06:47):
Yeah, you never know, and at least with that you know
, but there should always bethat foundation that you build
with them so that there's alwaysa comfortability and an
understanding that you canalways come home period and that
you want to be home.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
Oh yeah, I think that's the thing.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
Or that, yeah, I, I want to go back home, right,
yeah, right.
Um, and I think you know, whenwe were growing up, me and my
sister, um, I think that you anddad did give us a really good
foundation as in like, there wassuch consistency there when it
came to going to church, I guess, because I see in today's time
I've been able to.
I've been in church since I wasthat.
I remember dad pastoring two,was that right, you were about
(07:31):
two yeah so it's been.
I don't know, a different lifeand so I've been able to see
people come and go in the churchand I've seen families that
weren't consistent and thenbecause this was actually talked
about in church yesterday aboutlike teenagers, like once they
get out of the youth group andthey get into, like, I guess,
(07:53):
that young adulthood, they fallaway from church, and we could
do a whole podcast about thepositives and negatives of youth
groups.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
It can be a crutch and where it's really there's
not a really good firmfoundation being built in youth
groups, because then they justthese kids, don't know where
they belong.
Once they've kind of graduatedout of that.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
Yeah, it's like, once you get out of the fun zone,
what do I do?
Speaker 1 (08:20):
And it's like like youth groups can get so so
centered on yes, and it's likelike youth groups can get so so
centered on yes, making this fun, making this entertaining.
We got to take you to thisconference, take you to that,
and then all that ends andthey're like you know, what do I
do now?
And it's like, well, it'sreally about your relationship
with God and it shouldn't change, no matter what your age is
(08:40):
right, whether you've aged outof a youth group or not.
But we know this because Calvinand I served in youth group for
many years and we saw this exactsame thing happen and we would
have kids that would come onWednesday nights and their
parents weren't coming onWednesday nights, or kids that
might come on Sunday nights andtheir parents weren't coming on
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Sunday nights.
So then, by the time theybecame an adult, they weren't
coming on Sunday nights becausethat foundation was not built.
And that might seem harsh, butit's just truth.
It's just truth, but in ourhome it was.
And you might be like well,your dad was the pastor.
He was always going to be there.
Well, not if he was a badpastor.
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That's true.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
He could be like we're not having services on
Wednesday night or Sunday night,so Ellen, how many families
could you guess have come andgone in yours and Don's
ministries that you felt like itwas a foundational problem,
like it was something.
There wasn't a foundation.
It was just kind of like afly-by-night, like a trend or
something like that, and therewasn't a commitment, All of them
(09:47):
.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
I think, as a pastor and a pastor's wife, God gives
you insight.
He does.
I mean you have to have that tobe able to pastor a church.
You have to have that insightabout your people and I would
dare say that families that wehave lost.
It was a foundational problem,Because when your foundation is
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strong and it's firm and it'ssteady, when problems do arise
you're going to know what youneed to do instantaneously on
how to solve that, and you'renot going to be happy until it
is resolved.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
And those that have foundational problems.
That's just not there.
That rock solidness is notthere.
Yeah, to know what to do.
Agreed.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
I saw a quote today that was I'm going to misquote
it, but it was by CS Lewis andit had something to do with.
Every doubt or worry that weexperience is atheism.
It's a lack of faith that Godhas everything in control.
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When you let the world uminfluence you and draw you away,
you aren't really trulybelieving and founded on Christ,
and I think that that a lot offamilies um uh struggle with
that foundation because of notnecessarily just one member of
the other, but being together onwhat their goals are and their
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relationship with Christ.
Um you, you have to be a solid.
You know.
There's a reason why Godcreated it the way that he did,
why there's a mother and afather, and then there's kids,
and there's roles in thoserelationships that God desires
for it to be in a certain way.
Um so that, so that each role,you know, supports each other.
Um and and when you don't havesupport from certain directions
(11:49):
or certain ways or pathways ofperspectives, yeah, that it's
easy for the one who is strongto be dragged down.
There was a guy that was uh hadhis daughter on a chair and he
said give me your hand.
And he pulled her down and thenshe got, he said now you get
down and I'm going to try topull you up.
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And it was like vice versa itwas a lot easier for him to pull
her down than it was for her topull him up.
In other words, if you're withsomeone or in a situation where
you're not both focused andfounded on Christ, it's really
easy to be drawn away Easierdrawn away than it is to try to
draw someone to Christ.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
Does that make sense?
Yes, and.
I think the foundation is likethe most important part of it
all.
It's like on a house the mostimportant part is the foundation
correct and a lot of timeswe've seen this because we've
done like tornado cleanups andstuff we we all have together
here.
We've seen where the houseswere wiped out, but the
foundation was still there,right?
Speaker 2 (12:53):
well, one house where the foundation, the slab was
actually picked up and shifted,but it was still where it was
supposed to be.
Yes, and it's like it was there.
Even though it was rocked, itwas moved, it was still there.
It wasn't going anywhere, itcouldn't pick it up it.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
It did its best, but you know sometimes building the
foundation is is a really laborintensive work expensive, it's
expensive it's not the mostglamorous part of it, like when
I think about the house you'renot like.
Look at that great foundation.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
Good, concrete work, man You're not.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
You're like, oh, look at those windows or look at
that roof pitch or look at thoseshutters or look at the brick.
Speaker 3 (13:31):
You know, and things like that.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
But oh my goodness, like if it doesn't have a good
foundation.
Because we know we had a housethat we bought our own
inspection on it and they werelike, hey, you know, your house
isn't supported well underneathhere.
And we're like, oh my goodness,and it didn't matter how pretty
the house was.
You know if it wasn't supportedright then we were going to have
a huge problem.
So we can even and you know,guys, that we're always going to
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go back to running.
So my mom here is.
She is working on building herbase in running.
She has super she has ran.
Have you run two or three 5ksbefore?
Speaker 3 (14:09):
uh, I think there's three.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
I think there's three in my past wait have you ran
miles for molly, twice or once,just one time, okay, once.
Okay, so once, and then you'vedone our run.
Speaker 3 (14:19):
I did and and there was something else I very
stupidly did one at Heritage.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
Oh wow, the Hills.
I think I talked about that one, the Hills of Heritage.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
That was my first one , yeah we didn't know what we
were doing.
We didn't even have the rightshoes or anything.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
You didn't have a good foundation?
Speaker 1 (14:38):
No, we did not, we didn't even know that we needed
a foundation, good foundation.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
we didn't even know that we needed a foundation.
We were just like we're justgonna go run, oh my goodness.
Of course I was a lot youngerthen, but that still did not
matter.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
It doesn't and I will tell you this age does not
matter in running trainingconsistency so yeah, anyway, my
mom, right now, because youhaven't been doing it
consistently for a very longtime, right, because, like you,
the obviously that first run wasway many years ago and then
you've kind of teetered andtottered with, played around
(15:09):
with some running.
Speaker 3 (15:10):
I have kind of, you know, running was my thing when
I was a teenager.
I really got into it then wedidn't have a track team or any
kind of running thing at school.
No program, but it was justsomething that I got into on my
own.
It was something I enjoyeddoing.
I would strap on the littleweights around my ankles and I
take off and I do five and sixmiles and I would do that
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anywhere from three to fourtimes a week just up and down
the roads.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Well, where else when you'reyeah?
Speaker 1 (15:39):
yeah, I, I did that, so this would have been in the
70s, or oh yeah yeah, yeah, Iremember doing that quite a bit
of county road one okay, yeahyeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
But um, now, I mean, I've done that off and on
through my life.
Of course.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
You get married and you have kids and yeah, life
happens now wait a minute, butI've done it off and on my whole
life, connie Road 1.
Did you go up the big hill fromthe bridge going into Cleveland
?
No, oh chicken, that was a bighill.
I was like, oh my goodness,it's like a mountain.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
No, I didn't go down that hill.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
Okay, that was fun on a bike when I was growing up.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
Yeah, I would kind of well.
Now there's the hill you knowthe other way, going back
towards Oneonta.
I did go up that one some.
Okay, yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
All right, but anyway you've played around with
running.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
I did, and then you know, and then I got back into
it.
When the grandkids got older, Igot back into it, and then mom
got sick and I got back into it,and then mom got sick and I got
back out of it.
Yes, and so that's been what athree or four year span that I
wasn't running, and so I pickedit back up so how?
Speaker 1 (16:49):
how many weeks are you into your program?
Right now, I'm into my fourthweek, your fourth week, how's it
?
Speaker 3 (16:54):
going.
It's going pretty good.
Okay, I've really surprisedmyself yeah yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
But it is one of those things.
It's like you really are havingto start over.
I am Because I know that I didLike last summer I started over
from because I had ran and thenI stopped running for like a
good three or four months andit's like I have to start over
again, building that base again.
But building the base is soimportant and I know that you'll
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be able to add more to thisconversation by the time,
because I think your goal raceis in July, right it?
is yeah, and who knows, youmight run some before then We'll
see, because there will bemiles for Molly.
Speaker 3 (17:34):
Yeah, and I would like to do that.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
Yeah, yeah.
So anyway, she will be able toadd even more to this about how
important what she's doing rightnow is for those runs that are
going to be in the future, andthat's why it is so important to
build that firm foundation forour children.
And we've talked about this.
I think we were talking aboutthe aunt preparing for the next
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day.
You do need to only be thinkingabout today, but what you do
today is going.
What's going to make tomorrowbetter?
right, and that's the same thingwith this foundation.
It's going to take work, butit's the most important work
that you will do it is.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
It is.
It's really important that you,that you, when you're making a
plan and you're following it'slike you, both of y'all follow a
an online plan and I just kindof jump in there where I can um
calvin does.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
He's like hey, jude, what are you supposed to?
Where are you running today?
Run that with him.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
And then he'll ask me , and he'll go run that with me
and just hope that they're notboth running a hard run
consecutive days.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
You're really not a long business runner, are you?
Speaker 2 (18:35):
for the most part, no , but I'll tell you this part.
I'll tell you part I have saidthis so many times since we
started running that like rightaround mile four or five my neck
really starts getting to me myback from old back injuries and
stuff like that.
And but since I've beenconsistently running, I've
surprised myself that I've donesome really long runs with with
Holly and a couple with Jude,where it's like I have no pain
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and everything.
It's like consistency, likeconsistency really I do believe
it's paying off and allowing myback to be able to get stronger
in and actually be able to buildup that thing.
Now we're just talking aboutwhen you have breaks away from
it.
You try to come back to it,like your body is I think I've
mentioned this before, but lackof better words evolve.
Your body is evolving in andcreating itself, uh, to be able
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to be resilient in the activitythat you most pursue.
So if you most pursue sittingon your fanny and watching
Netflix, it's going to optimizeyour body to sit on your fanny
and watch Netflix.
You will not have a cute littlebooty, but if you work, but if
you constantly, it'll cushionand shake.
I can attest to that It'll havecushioned dimples, cushioned
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shakes.
It'll have cushioned dimples.
But if you consistently putyour body in a manner that it's
happened to heal and recover andbuild muscles and and
strengthen joints and lubricatethose joints, keeping them
mobile, um, you know, likeimagine ellen, when you first
got out there starting thisplane, you were like where's the
oil?
Can you know?
Yeah, and then then give itprobably like week two, going
into week three.
It's like your recovery is somuch shorter.
(20:08):
You know, by the next dayyou're like okay, what's next?
You know, um, because you havea consistent track of of making
your body recognize thatactivity.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
I will say this too, though, because I did just run
my half marathon two days ago,and I PR'd.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
Yep, I didn't know if you want to talk about that.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
And I really pushed myself and I'm really hurting,
like my legs hurt so bad, my hipflexors hurt so bad.
So even in that consistent I'mthinking about, if I didn't have
a base at all, what I wouldactually feel like.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
You would have been walking.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
So it doesn't matter, like if I let's say that I run
13 or 14 miles in my trainingprogram, I'm not running that at
a race pace, like because I wasracing at like an eight minute
pace for the whole thing.
Average a lot of it.
I was running in the sevens andthen there was some, because
there was a lot of hills in thisthat I was running into, like
the 820s and things like that.
So by the time it averaged out,I was running about an eight
minute pace.
Well, when you do that, likeI'm, I'm going I'm going to be
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using muscles in my legs thatare not consistently getting
used like all the time.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
For that, long of a time, yeah, that much power
right yeah, so that's why I'mgoing to.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
I'm going to feel that.
So I'm going to feel thatsoreness, just like she felt,
that soreness of running a mileat a slower pace, because I'm
still building my base For yourevent, for where you're at
you're building that base forthe next level.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
Yes, and you know I watched a it it was funny.
There's a fitness influence outthere that a lot of people
started kind of making fun ofand I'm like, oh, cause I've
been following him for a while,just because it was what he did
was unique.
But I was watching the slowmotion of him running the other
day and it was kind of abreakdown of his stride and, uh,
when his leg hit the ground andI saw how much his muscles
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shifted and flip-flopped all theway around his leg.
And you don't think about howmuch movement happens in your
muscles when you're running andyou're jarring and it's jerking
and it's literally stretchingyour tendons away from your bone
, right, you're trying to buildthe strength of your tendons,
those joints, those muscles, tobe able to do that.
And the faster you go go, theharder the impact and the more
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stress on your muscles.
And this guy was going.
He was probably running at likea 18 minute pace, like a per
mile, 18 mile an hour pace, likehe was.
He was, it was a sprint right.
So the impact was extreme, likeand I'm like, wow, man, these,
this guy, can be ripped, butthem muscles are taking a
beating, you know, and if hedidn't have that base and he
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tried to run at that speed, um,without ever running before, and
just did, like you know,lifting and things like that, if
he didn't have that runningbase he could very easily tear
something, very easily injurehimself yeah but it's like we
put ourselves through that everytime we elevate our running
game.
You know when I start realizingthat I can run a little longer
it's because I've built myselfto think about that in life,
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though.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
Okay, let's just say that, like right now, mom, like
you're not ready to go run 13.1miles at an eight minute pace
right.
So like if she went and didthat she would like destroy
herself.
Like she would not be able to doit correct just the same thing
is I couldn't go out there andrun it at a six minute pace.
I would feel the exact same waythat she would feel.
Um, I think that's why it is soimportant to build that base,
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because I think about as afamily, uh, when those problems
do come up, um, if we don't havethat base together, it can
really tear us apart.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
Right, that's right, um nobody wants to go to family
night.
Angry you're gonna, you'regonna want to resolve it because
, because you're not forsakingfamily no, I'm just saying.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
I'm just saying when you, when you're struggling with
something, I understand whereyou're coming from yeah, because
life is gonna is going tohappen and as much as we all
love each other, we're allreally different and we all got
our different opinions aboutthings right.
We don't always agree we don't,but at the end of the day, we
all love each other and samething within your own family.
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The storms of life, Things aregoing to try to shake your
foundation.
So, is your foundation strongenough to handle it?
You know, are we living theJoshua In Joshua, where he says
as for me and my house, we willserve the Lord, Like I think you
guys have that on at the end ofyour driveway.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
It's on a rock.
Speaker 1 (24:37):
As soon as you pull into my parents' driveway
there's a huge rock that says asfor me and my house, we will
serve the Lord.
I know that y'all aren'tperfect, but y'all have really
tried to live your lives thatway.
Y'all have built a greatfoundation for us, for your
grandchildren.
I know, for gosh, before youknow it, you might be a great
grandmother.
Speaker 3 (24:58):
That just comes from a personal relationship with the
lord.
Yeah, that desire to want thatand to, to do things that are
pleasing for him, not todisappoint him and I know that I
do a lot, because I'm not aperfect person, yeah, but that
foundation comes from the desireto want that, to want that good
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life, and that comes from whatchrist has instilled in me to
want that, to want that goodlife, and that comes from what
Christ has instilled in me, towant that, and it's not easy.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
No, it's not.
It's a choice every day.
It's a battle I feel like whenwe read our Bible every day.
We're still building thatfoundation right.
We're still working on ourfoundation.
Speaker 3 (25:36):
As long as we live here on this earth, it's always
going to be a battle between theflesh and the spirit.
That's just the way it is.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
You know, growing up in church, being raised in
church, participating in church,ministering in church my entire
life, basically I still amamazed at how much newness God
brings to me through his word.
You know, it's like there'snever enough to learn about God
because he is justall-encompassing.
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And if you think about how muchyou know as a human, when
you're like, okay compared tothis computer, like I know
nothing compared to Google, well, it's like we haven't even
hardly even touched the hem ofhis garment when it comes to
understanding our God and howmuch he really does truly love
us and want to exalt us andbuild us up.
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You know, a lot of times wetake it for granted how much he
wants to just pour out Hisblessing on us, mm-hmm, and
we'll think that we're unworthy,sometimes, so many times,
because we're like I'm not goodenough or I'm not strong enough
or I'm not.
You know where I need to be.
And it's like, well, he doesn'tsay get where you need to be
and then I will bless you.
Get where you need to be and Iwill be with you.
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He says I will be with you andI will bless you, no matter
where you're at, and then we'llwork through this together.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
That's right and I think that having those
foundations solid in all areasfamily, spiritual life, when it
comes to your finances and Iwould say from a personal
standpoint, that's somethingthat we've always had to really
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work on, because your financesyou can just get bogged down
with life and you feel like youdon't have time to sit down down
and do that foundational workthat you need to do.
You know like balance in yourcheckbook and stuff like that.
You know like it's so important, right, um, if you're wanting
to build wealth for the futureor, you know um, have a nest egg
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for your children.
I'm sorry if I hope that y'allguys can hear me because I keep
talking away from the microphone.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
You're going back and forth, that's all.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
But I just feel like this theme keeps coming up about
how important it is for us tohave that foundation and how
important it is for us to haveour family.
God gave us each other rightand, um, I can't imagine wanting
to do this life without myfamily.
There's nobody that's going tobe in my corner more than my
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family.
I was thinking too when I ranuh, that run this week there was
, you know, because I wasvlogging that this whole program
there were people that werereaching out to me how did you
do?
How did you do?
And it was like, oh, theyreally were invested, you know
what I'm saying.
But when I got this phone call,it was from Jude, my 15-year-old
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son, that I'm just begging forthe crumbs from the table from
him, any bit of attention thathe might give me.
I'm like, yes, you know.
So he calls, and my firstthought was because I knew that
he was going to be going into ashift at the shop and.
I thought something was wrong.
And no, he was out on the golfcourse.
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So he stopped playing his golfgame and he was just like I just
wanted to see how you did.
And he was so excited.
He was like how did you do, mom?
And then I got to just havethat full blown conversation
with him and he was so happy forme and he was like, cause he
had detailed it out like how hethought that the topography
might be for me and things likethat, and he was spot on, he
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really was, and I was tellinghim that and he was gloating
about that a little bit.
And then I got off the phonewith him and I'm sitting across
the table from Calvin and Calvinhas, because Calvin's the
sensitive one in ourrelationship he's kind of got
tears in his eyes and he waslike y'all are always going to
have that and I'm like that's afoundation that we've built.
(29:40):
Yes, right, and our familyreally has too.
But there there was justsomething with me and you in the
running, because I've had totake him to to running.
You know, um gosh, he knowswhat that's like he does he
knows the work you put into that.
He knows what that feels like heknows what his mom just went
through.
Yeah, you know to be able toaccomplish that and just that.
He was invested in that andit's like, because we have a
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good foundation, we have a goodrelationship together, no matter
if he is 15 and you know thosemoments, yeah, yeah and I mean I
know I hate it when peoplestart with I mean, but I just
said, uh, when you're investedin something, um, you see that
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it has value.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
You know, like, I'm not going to invest my funds or
my finances something I don'tfind value in.
Um, we were talking about thiswith, like, instead of buying a
bunch of clothing by staple,items that have value, that
you're going to be able to mixand match, and things like that,
trying to reduce your closetload and things like that.
But when it comes to ourrelationship with Christ, if we
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view that as value, we're goingto spend time and effort
investing into it.
If we view that ourrelationship with our family is
worth the investment we're goingto spend time doing that is
worth the investment we're goingto spend time doing that.
And I think about what couldhave our household look like now
if the things that we started20 years ago with Family Night
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and the things that your fatherstarted with the church 20 plus
years ago being a minister andstarting y'all's church Like,
where would we be if, if itdidn't have any value to you?
Um, it, there's value in it, andsometimes it can be stressful.
We've seen some stressfulmoments that y'all have had to
go through, and and and.
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There's been some struggles andit's like you know, yes, we're,
we're.
We're in a world full of peopleand with people comes problems.
I think Mark says that a lot.
Why churches have so manyproblems?
Speaker 1 (31:41):
because there's people in them, it's full of
people.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
It's full of people.
People have problems, but it'sworth it, there's value in it.
So you invest in it and you seethe rewards, and you see those
shining moments where people arecloser to the Lord or closer to
their family, or moving furtheralong in whatever their venture
is that they find value in.
And it's exciting when you seethat growth and when, when, when
(32:04):
your son calls you and it'slike wow, this investment that I
put in, like this hard workthere's.
There's going to be moments ofimpression that you know are
going to be lifetime impressions.
Speaker 1 (32:13):
Because, yeah, like, even though I'm sitting there
thinking and I was really, youknow, I wanted to pass out at
that point too.
So I was like at the lowest ofmy lows and how my body felt at
that point.
But I've always said that therunning started with him, with
you, like that was the wholepoint of it all, and it's like
that kind of came a full circleright there.
Even though I hadn't come upthere and done that run, all it
(32:36):
was by myself, you weren'trunning that run, you were just
there to support me.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
I was running around, you were he was.
Speaker 1 (32:42):
He was.
He was chasing me around and Ihad to tell a little tale on
myself because you know I'mrunning.
And then all of a sudden Iwould hear something like You're
doing great, and it's him.
(33:04):
And he's got his little phoneup.
You know he's taking a picture.
And I was like happy and joyful, mile eight, I could have hurt
somebody like I was.
I was running angry at thatpoint because I wanted to be
over.
I was really thinking aboutgetting a DNF.
I have talked about that beforethat I would never want to see
DNF by my name, and that meansdid not finish, and there's also
DNS did not start.
Um, I don't want to see DNF bymy name, and that means did not
finish.
And there's also DNS did notstart.
I don't want either one ofthose on there.
But hey, if it happens, ithappens.
(33:24):
But I was like no, the only wayI'm getting a DNF is it's going
to be a did not fail.
But at mile eight I reallymentally was falling apart.
Speaker 2 (33:35):
Yeah, and see, I don't see this up to this point
he don't and.
But right before I did see I'llgive her the prequel to what
you're about to say but rightbefore you turn the corner where
I knew I was going to be ableto intercept you, I got a text
message that was following alongwith you and it said her
average pace at this mile isthis much time and her pace is
(33:55):
this much.
It's like 8, 15 or somethinglike that yeah and I was like,
oh good data that I can feed her.
I was like I can support her bytelling her exactly where she's
at, okay, and then she comesaround the corner.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
Here we go, okay and, mind you, I know exactly where
I'm at and I'm, I'm mad.
I'm mad that I'm at an 8, 15,okay, because I'm like I don't
know how much more gas I've gotinside of me.
You know, I really felt like thelittle puttery old I'm
imagining like a.
At that point, like at thebeginning of the race, I felt a
Corvette.
At this point I'm a Pinto,complete, rusted out Pinto, okay
(34:29):
, and I am just puttering alongand I know exactly what my pace
is.
I'm mad about it because Iwanted to be running that run in
the sevens the whole time.
Okay, it didn't happen, but Istill did.
I still met my goal, but anyway.
And then here he is and he's gotthat little phone up, you know
whatever, and I wasn't evengonna look at him and he was
(34:50):
like you're doing great, yourpace is blah, blah, blah, blah,
blah, blah, blah.
And you see me, I didn't evenshare this video.
I raised my hand.
I'm like I don't care If Iwasn't, if I didn't have a
Christ foundation, I may havebeen making other gestures, is
all I got to say at that point.
(35:11):
That had nothing to do with him.
I was just so running mad andI'm like I did say this.
I said I don't want to hear thetruth right now.
Speaker 3 (35:20):
I don't want to hear it.
I already know it and I don'twant to hear it from you so?
Speaker 2 (35:24):
have you ever seen like a dog, when you get onto
them and they tuck their tailbetween their legs and they turn
around and they saunter away?
That's kind of how I felt atthat moment.
You know, it's like a whoop dog, you know.
But no, no, no, no, no, no, no,serious on a serious note,
serious note, I understood yeahwe've been running together way
long enough for me to understandwhat's going on in your head at
(35:46):
that moment I know you and Idid not take personal offense to
that.
Yes, I did not, because Iunderstood that you are doing
something hard and you were andand that and that, like, like I
knew that, like you needed thatrelease, you needed that, that
mental release, to be able topush through and I'm like, okay,
(36:08):
I'll take it, I'm okay withthat.
Speaker 3 (36:09):
Yes, well, I mean, you get there too and you
realize that that course is notwhat you thought it was going to
be.
Speaker 1 (36:16):
I was having to overcome that too, because I
because that would be in yourhead in that first part for a
while.
I was running in the sevens, soI was running hills in the
seven, and I shouldn't have, butI didn't.
I and you know, and you didtell me the topography of it.
I just still did not have aclear understanding of how steep
(36:36):
these hills were, though, so Ipushed myself too much in the
beginning, so it made me run outof gas at the end, and I hate
when I do that, because what Ishould have done is I should
have ran that part slower sothat I could have really gassed
at the end and it could haveshaved more seconds or even a
minute off of my time, um, whenyou really get down to it.
But it's okay.
(36:57):
It's not the end of the world,but I do remember like coming
through the finish line too.
I don't I don't address calvinat all, because at that I'd have
nothing else left inside of me.
This is the first race where Ifelt such a weird pain and
horrible feeling in my legs.
I thought I I was going to passout.
I had given it my all and theydid have.
(37:18):
They had massage people overthere and I did eventually go
over there, but I didn't addressyou, probably for a good Eight
to ten minutes oh.
I thought it was five.
No, sorry.
Speaker 2 (37:33):
I did.
I stood off.
I stood off because I saw youcome through and you grabbed
your water and you headed downthis hill.
I stood off.
I stood off because I saw youcome through and you grabbed
your water and you headed downthis hill.
Speaker 3 (37:39):
I just started walking and you just started
walking and I stood.
Speaker 2 (37:41):
it might not have been that long, it was probably,
it might've been five minutes,but you didn't.
You didn't give me the coldshoulder, but you were just
decompressing and you weretrying to find yourself
basically recenter, you know,and I and I watched you and then
, as soon as I felt like yourbody language changed, I was
like okay, she's good now and Iwent and he was just like he,
like he was gonna cry.
Speaker 1 (38:01):
He's like I'm just so proud of you.
And then he was like when I andhe, like he, started thinking
he's like when I think aboutwhat you actually just did, I
remember like you came overthere and said that you're like
he had just he was thinking, ohmy gosh, to run for that far at
that pace and the level ofdifficulty of those hills,
(38:24):
because there was women throwingup in bushes in the first half
of the race.
Speaker 2 (38:29):
Now you haven't even told your results yet, but I'll
brag on you 100%.
I will brag on you.
Out of almost 800 runners,runners, you finished 16th yeah,
it was great um, and and Ithere's, no, no, there's no
doubt in my mind that theconsistently consistent training
(38:50):
that you put in over the lasthowever many weeks it's been
since you decided or found outyou were going to be doing this
run you said I'm setting thisprogram and I'm sticking to it.
The only thing that held youback was when you had a brief
injury and you had to reduce oneof your runs and skip one day
(39:10):
and add some to another.
There was like that, was it theconsistency that you pushed for
this and a lot of it it took.
You pushed for this and a lotof it it took, you know, working
around some things and andsqueezing some things in
sometimes and doing somerearranging and.
But there was intention to it,you know, and it didn't.
The thing about the that Iadmire the most is that it
didn't take away from the familyoh good it didn't.
(39:33):
You know, um, if jude's atpractice and you're running, you
know there's.
You know there, you knowthere's things that, like some
people would be like and I havea hard time understanding like
sometimes going to the marathonlevel.
It's like there's such anotherlevel of time dedication to that
.
But what you did with this likeyou're trying to perfect that
(39:53):
distance rather than be let'ssee how far I can run it's like
how fast can I run this distance?
Um and uh, and, and you alwayshad the family first, even in
your, even in your training, butyou still got it in and I
admire that it takes a lot ofdedication.
Speaker 1 (40:10):
Thank you, Hard, hard work, and I am I'm not going to
train for one for a littlewhile.
We already kind of discussedthis that I'm going to start
working on trying to perfect my5K time and it will help me when
I start training again foranother half marathon, but I'm
kind of done with my distanceright now.
I want to focus on some otherthings, because my focus is
(40:32):
going to start leaning towardsJude and his running, because
he'll be moving into summerconditioning.
Start leaning towards, uh, judeand his running, because he'll
be moving into summerconditioning and, um, you know,
I really have ran these longdistances and done this hard
training when it's not hisseason of of running, so, um,
but we have built a foundationand, uh, our family does have a
(40:52):
foundation on jesus, on runningon on coffee, that is for sure.
Yeah, we did, and Mom thanksfor joining us on this one.
Speaker 2 (41:01):
I know we were like, hey, come on, it's kind of a
last-minute thing Because wewere just in there talking about
your running and it's like youknow, let's just make it happen,
let's just talk and bring theconversation over and thank you
for being consistent in ourfamily knots.
Speaker 1 (41:16):
I know it's not easy.
You getting in there and makingthese really huge meals for
everybody and cleaning up thekitchen, and you do it and you
don't complain.
Speaker 3 (41:25):
Well, it's because I like doing it, I like having, I
like being my family centeredaround me.
I just you know that's the joyof my life.
Speaker 2 (41:40):
Well, you're the joy of ours, so we love you.
We love you.
Speaker 1 (41:41):
Thank y'all for joining us tonight or today,
whenever you're listening thatthe lord will bless you and keep
you and make his face shineupon you, and we will see you
next time.
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