April 23, 2025 • 32 mins
We explore how God's seemingly strict laws in the Old Testament were actually protective measures designed with loving intention and divine foresight, not arbitrary rules meant to control or burden His people.
• Understanding Biblical quarantine laws as protective measures, not punishment or shame
• Recognizing God's intentionality in creating laws that protected ancient Israelites before modern scientific understanding
• Seeing how Biblical separation laws during illness parallel modern quarantine practices
• Finding God's character throughout Scripture instead of focusing on ourselves
• Discovering how God prepares us through everyday experiences for unexpected challenges
• Viewing physical fitness as preparation that enables us to protect and serve others
• Recognizing the Bible as the story of Jesus: coming, arriving, and returning again
• Learning to trust God's perfect intentions even when we don't understand His methods
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey everybody and welcome back.
We took a week break duringEaster week.
That's always such a busy weekand honestly it's just kind of a
hallowed week, I would say.
So we are back at it today,with starting with episode 13.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Episode 13.
So, yeah, we had a lot of goodtime with family on both of our
sides.
We have a lot of traditionsthat we try to keep up with
different sides of the familyand a few things that were
unique here and there thrown infun stuff.
And obviously things change asyou get older.
I think it was differentdefinitely with younger kids
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versus older.
We only have a couple moreyounger kids in the family right
now.
Elle being one of them, elle'sone of the youngest of them all,
but yeah.
So Easter weekend, easter week,more younger kids in the family
right now l l's one of theyoungest of them all, but, um,
but yeah.
So easter weekend, uh, easterweek, there's always a lot, a
lot going on in the in thebuild-up to that, and then the
week of it um, we, we did some,some, you, some unique running
this week.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
I would say my booty still hurts from some hill work
so I I'm getting ready to do ahill uh race in next weekend,
not this coming up weekend, butthe next weekend so we started
last week doing uh training forthat and calvin has been along
for the ride on some of that andhe went on my long hilly run.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Yeah, that was actually like easter morning we
woke up really early and ran inthe sunrise.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
It was really fun we decided that we might make this
a tradition to have an earlyeaster morning run, and we
actually ran in the sunrise.
It was really fun.
We decided that we might makethis a tradition to have an
early easter morning run, and weactually were in the graveyard
too, so that was kind of cool itwas.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
It was really neat.
I mean, it's kind of somber,you know but, also, it gives you
a sense of uh, of joy, thinkingabout how, um you know, our
lord and savior, jesus christ,did come out of the grave he's
not in the the grave.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
He's not in the grave anymore.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
So we're so thankful for that and we're on the road
to recovery from that.
I think I'm going to try tosqueeze in a run tomorrow maybe,
but I don't know.
Right now our evenings are justso busy.
I don't know if that's probablygoing to happen, but yeah, so
we've had a lot of thoughtsgoing on with where we're at in
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our Bible reading.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
We've had a lot of thoughts going on with our
business and our running.
If you're doing the Bible recap, I want to encourage you to
keep on keeping on, and ifyou've fallen off the wagon you
can get back in there.
But hey, just all in all, readyour Bible.
You will not regret it, that isfor sure.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
You will not.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
But today's topic I'm really excited to talk about
and I don't know how long thisepisode will be uh, this is one
of those topics that you couldreally start getting into maybe
rabbit holes um but I thinkwe're going to talk about it
more broadly and that is reallyabout how, about god's laws and
how they apply today and howthey applied then and a lot of
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times like, especially if youwere reading the Bible recap we
came out of all of those booksfrom the Torah, which is Genesis
, Exodus, Leviticus, numbers inDeuteronomy.
And when you get to theLeviticus numbers in Deuteronomy
, you're going to get into thehardcore law, like he was saying
.
This is how you need to live,and the thing I love about
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reading the Bible is that youreally do get to see God's
character if you're looking forit.
You know, one of the greatthings about the Bible recap is
she is always focusing onfinding God in the scriptures
and not yourself in thescriptures.
Focusing on finding God in thescriptures and not yourself in
the scriptures, and you can seehis character and the reason
that he did the things that hedid and I think that's what
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we're going to talk about todayis that sometimes it might not
make sense or it might seem mean, but everything God does has a
purpose.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
Yeah, so when we first really started getting
heavier in on our running andwith Jude's actual training for
running and we've never reallyprocessed that in our life and
our any kind of fitness thatwe've ever done um, what it
actually takes and a lot of itdidn't quite make sense.
Sometimes I think you know,like, why are we doing it this
way?
Or why, what do we need to dofor this?
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Why do, why do I feel this pain?
You know, here and there, youknow and you learn so much, and
not just with running, like thepains of business, the pains of
just growing Um, why, why doesit?
You know hindsight's, 2020,right.
So, I've done this a time or afew times before where you just
open your Bible to a randomscripture and you read it and
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you try to make it make sense towhatever's going on and you
make something up.
And a lot of times it can bekind of fun for your youth group
.
You just find a scripture andbe like whatever it's about,
make it up into something.
So it kind of really shows howwe as humans can make anything
apply to our life in any weirdrandom way you can manipulate
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the scriptures.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
Yeah, it can be very manipulative.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
Any written word can be manipulated if you have ill
intent, and I think that'swhat's so important about the
laws in Leviticus, numbers,deuteronomy and everything is
that you don't try to findyourself in it and how you need
to run outside and sacrificeyour goat.
You need to try to find whatwas God's purpose behind it.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
What was?
Speaker 2 (05:03):
the intention behind why he had this, and you know
we've talked about this alreadythat we've learned so much
nowadays, as far as just oursociety it's so much more
advanced.
We're able to see so much moreabout how the world works that
some of these laws they reallymake a lot of sense now.
Whereas they might not havemade a lot of sense back then.
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It was just obedience.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
And when you're reading it you can think, good
grief, like they can't do this,they can't do that.
But I don't know, it's like allof a sudden.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
I'm just seeing it through different lenses, if
that makes sense yeah, so we had, we had a few different like
thoughts of certain laws thatthat were back then, that really
make a lot of sense nowadaysand and it's really important
that we understand that God'sGod has an intention.
He has intention, he has adesign to this.
There's a purpose for the lawsand and we're trying to
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understand what that purpose isin our life.
For for, for why?
We would you know?
For simple things, honoring ourmother and our father, that our
days may be long.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
Right.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
Yes, your mother and father, unless there is
something that is off, generallyhave what's best for your
interest in your life.
So you know, don't touch thateye on the stove.
It's hot.
They say that because there isa hope that you won't get
damaged.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
Not because you're trying to be a boss and tell
them what to do and what not todo.
It really is for yourprotection.
And I think about when God,when he was creating everything,
it was intentional.
God is not a God that is flyingby the seat of his pants.
Everything he does has apurpose.
He knows what is good.
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And now, if you are up today onthe bible recap, we're in the
life of david right now.
And, um, you see so many thingslike that.
God was so intentional, evenabout, like, when you went from
the judges into them having aking.
And he's even telling them hewas like, okay, you say you a
king, so I'm going to give you aking, but I just want you to
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know that having a king can benot a good thing.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
Yeah, he laid out what would happen if they had a
king.
And then, when they chose aking, or when a king was
anointed and they had a king,guess what happened?
Speaker 1 (07:20):
Yes, those things he warned them about the reason he
didn't want them to have a kingis because he is their king,
Like Jesus was the king of kings.
You know he wanted to be theLord of them and you know they
constantly rejected him.
And they wanted to have a king,like the other countries, you
know, so that they could be likeeveryone else.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
Yeah, but he already laid out in, like you know, the
Mosaic laws and things like that.
He already laid out a hierarchyof how to handle situations.
He already laid out of who yougo to with your grievances and,
if there's a concern for one ofthe laws being broken, how to
handle it.
He'd already laid all thelegalistic side, yes, and for a
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while.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
There, moses was the one that was having to handle it
all, and you read thosescriptures where it's like, okay
, moses can't handle all of thison his own.
There was the delegation of theother people I think there was
70 or and it splits off intomore than that and it's like you
go to them with, like, I guess,smaller grievances or whatever.
If there was something likereally huge, then that would be
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brought up the chain to Moses.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
But, um, yeah, so which I mean who doesn't
struggle with delegation whenyou think that, when you think
that the concept or idea thatyou have about your life is the
best, or the way of doingsomething is the best, and
you're like I got to do this ifit's going to be perfect, right,
and delegating things is reallya difficult thing sometimes for
a lot of personalities.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
Yes, it is.
But you know, I think that whenit came to the law, you know
there was so much.
There were some really toughand hard consequences when they
broke those laws.
But it needed to be that waybecause we know what's coming
Like Jesus was coming.
Jesus was going to make the way.
These people had no way exceptthrough habitually making
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sacrifices and doing this anddoing that.
But there were certain thingsthat they would have to do.
I know that growing up, when Iread the Bible like when it
talked about somebody being castout of the camp or whatever I
immediately would think it'slike you're casting them out.
Punishment yeah, it's apunishment.
You want everybody.
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It's kind of like the kidsitting in the corner with the
dunce cap on.
You always saw cartoons likethat.
I've never in my life seen thatactually happen to anybody I'll
have a dunce cap on in thecorner, but to me.
That's what I equated as is tome.
I thought that they were beingshamed shamed, thrown out but a
lot of the times when they werecast out of the camp, it wasn't
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for that reason at all.
It wasn't even for sin.
It was for some kind of bodilydischarge like blood or sickness
.
It was things like that of whythey were basically quarantined.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
Yeah, so if you just think about the concept of
leprosy right, and it's acontagion right.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
It's contagious.
So if they don't understand theconcept of contagious diseases,
that are microscopic Germs yeah, germs, we have the ability to
see.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
We know so much.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
Germs, yeah, we know so much more as a society as a
whole, as humans, with whatwe've learned and done through
scientific process.
So it has its benefits.
It's not all smoke and waters,smoke and mirrors, but we know
so much.
So now we look back and we'relike, well, there's a reason why
God wanted them to be separate.
And I think back also, someonewho had leprosy I'm with you
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also.
I felt like earlier on they'rebeing shamed or they're
embarrassed about it, but reallythey are going through
something and if you understandthat this is a protection of the
other people, you're probablyreally going to want to go along
with it if you love the peoplethat you are around you are
going to want to go along withit If you love the people that
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you are around, you are going towant to separate yourself from
them and, you know, not withoutgetting any in any shape or form
political on this.
But society reverted veryquickly to separation when we
experienced COVID and there wasa lot of confusion about how
serious it was, how contagiousit was, how deadly it was, what
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are the conditions for this toactually affect people's lives.
And there was a lot of everyfamily kind of had to just go
with their own gut instinct,with what they knew and what
they could figure out as best asthey possibly could and handle
it how they could.
And a lot of people reverted toextreme separation because of a
fear, and some of it because ofunderlying health issues,
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legitimate fears.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
Yes, you know, there was so much unknown, yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
But it's very unknown and it's the same situation
probably with a lot of thesepeople, like it was unknown how
contagious leprosy was.
But God said you need to beseparate.
If you are able to be healed ofthis or if you become clean of
this, then you representyourself Right and there's a
process for that.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
Yes, and you know there's a time too in the
scriptures, while they're in thewilderness, that Miriam and
Aaron both question Moses'authority.
They're like who are you to saythat God is the person who made
you the leader?
Well, god took heavy offense tothat, because to him that was
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them challenging him or themquestioning him.
It was doubt.
It was them doubting God andthat he had sent Moses.
So one of the things he does ishe immediately I guess the word
is curse curses Miriam withleprosy.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
Do you?
Speaker 1 (13:04):
remember this part.
Yes, yes, okay, and she'simmediately leprous.
Well, like moses is horrified,okay, because it's his sister,
and like this was a disease thatyou didn't really heal from.
Rarely were did anybody comeback from this, especially if
it's like covered head to toeyeah okay, and then you would
have.
There was those laws in therewhere it was like, if it's like,
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if it's white or if it's it'sreally gross.
It's gross things, it's oozing,then you're separate, or if it's
if it's scabbed, then you'reokay, but see all those things
make sense now because it's like, yeah, if it was like an open
wound, then you don't need tohave that around somebody.
But if it has scabbed over,probably okay, you're not going
to spread that to somebody.
But getting back to what I wassaying about Miriam, he pleads
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with God like, please, no, don'tlet this happen to my sister.
And God is going to allowMiriam to live.
But because she was leprous,what did she have to do?
She had to separate herself live, but because she was leprous.
What did she have to do?
She had to separate herself.
She had to separate herself now, guys think about this when the
israelites were traveling okay,this is not some little family
camping trip.
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Okay, we're talking aboutmillions of people, okay, so
even to go outside of the camp.
I don't even really know howfar someone would have to go
yeah, like.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
To get outside the camp yeah, I mean, even if you
had a crowd of a thousandpeople's homes, you know, like
their tents set up on acampground, um, you would be
separated and you'd have totravel a good ways if just for a
thousand people on a campground.
Yes, you know you'd have to,but you wouldn't see anyone in
knowing and knowing this she,she probably had to go far.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
But I always thought like, yeah, she got leprosy and
she had to get out of the camp.
And so I was thinking as achild, or even like yesterday
Miriam was, I thought she's castout because, you know, they're
having to really show her who'sboss, like she needs to be
shamed, like she's.
That's not why she was thrownout.
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She was thrown out, she gotleprosy because of her sin.
God was like boom, aconsequence Now she's outside
the camp because she has leprosy.
Because of the law, yes, andthat law was there to protect
her and to protect everyone elsein that camp from getting
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leprosy yeah, and it wasn't toprotect them from her.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
You know like we're exposed to people constantly
that god allows us to to beseparated from, because he's
trying to protect us.
Yes, you know not necessarilythat he's trying to punish other
people, but he's trying toprotect you from bad situations,
or?
Speaker 1 (15:44):
bad environments.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
You know, I remember you know as a young man,
thinking in high school, andthings.
When you know, you get yourdriver's license and you're like
I'm an experienced life andyou're going to go to go to
these people's houses.
Go to go to these people'shouses, like there was such a
culture that that when westarted getting some
independence and startedexperiencing what other people
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were doing with their, theirwild lives, you know it's like,
okay, there's, there's a reasonwhy god was keeping me from this
, because it has no appeal to me.
You know, like like he wasprotecting me from that
environment, from being friendswith those people, even though
there might have been situationsthat I've been like, oh man,
I'm not with the in crowd orsomething like that, you know
but I look back on it.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
I'm like you know, thank you, lord, because I had a
great group of friends, um, youknow, in school and it's not
because you're special no youknow, it's not like he looked at
calvin was like I'm gonna keephim grounded by making him not
in the in crowd, you know, orwhatever.
Yeah, um, I think god uses oursituations, you know, to our
benefit.
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You know, um, he knows whathe's doing.
He, uh, he is the, he's themaster, you know.
And so I think about, like, inour life, he has just as much as
he had intentionality when hewas creating everything.
He had intentionality when hewas creating everything.
He had intentionality when hewas making all those laws,
because Moses did not writethose laws.
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God wrote those laws and Moseswrote them down Correct, thank
you Moses.
The amount of pressure thatMoses had on him and then he
didn't even get to go in thepromised land because he still
messed up.
This is a man that was sostinking close to God that he
saw him face to face.
Yeah yeah, and he still messedup.
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There's hope for us all guys.
Okay, that was a little sidebar.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
We already said that there probably should be some
sidebars, just as much as he hadintentionality in creating
everything and in making allthose laws.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
He has intentionality in our life as well.
How many times are we thwartinghis intentions?
Speaker 2 (17:46):
And it can be something simple.
Yeah, something as simple asyou know, the, the nervous
energy that we get in a newenvironment where there's a
conversation that God is in, isinspiring you to have with
someone or to talk aboutsomething or to live your life
in a certain way, and it mightseem small, but there's an
intended purpose behind it.
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You know, like are you?
Are you serving the purposethat God has for you right now
in your life, with youractivities that you're
participating in, Um, as simpleand monotonous as they might be,
even if, even if you work, youknow 16 hours a day and you and
you go home, eat with yourfamily and sleep for four hours,
wake up and drive another hourto work and work another 16
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hours, Even if your life isconsumed by the demands of your
career and you're like I've gotto push through this, Even in
that monotony of work, work,work, work, work, there's an
intended purpose behind it andyou've got to find it.
You've got to recognize thatGod is using it for one reason
or the other.
Are you supposed to be aminister at that place, and what
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is God using it for your futurewith your family?
Like we had many nights, manydays early on in our marriage
where those 16-hour doubles andtriples and quadruples.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
They were very abundant early on in our
marriage and, and it was hard itwas tough and we didn't have
children during that time.
We were married a whole sevenyears before we had children.
Um, and there may have beenintentionality behind that there
was definitely purpose behindthem.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
Yeah, there was I.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
It would have definitely been difficult having
a child involved with theschedules that that you were on
yeah um, there would have beenno way for you to have been
present to be honestly the waythat you, that you wanted to,
but everything in our lifeshould have intentionality, and
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this is something.
This is a quote that I saw theother day, and so you know that
we're always going to go back tocoffee and running and jesus,
but um.
So this one in particular isabout fitness.
But, uh, fitness isn'teverything, but everything is
harder if you aren't fit.
It has just that has stuck withme, and it says there is more
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to life than fitness.
However, there is more to lifewith fitness.
How much more can we do, calvin?
Because we can maintain a highheart rate.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
True.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
You know I was thinking about this and I've
said this before.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
Okay, Like first line of defense, I can run yeah,
yeah, if you're under attack,you can get away from it.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
We have always talked about this.
In this situation, you knowlike we're not going to talk
about guns and and weapons andall that stuff, um, second
amendment rights and all of that.
But even in our talks about youknow me carrying or things like
that, it's still the firstthing that you want to do is get
away from the situation period,and so a lot of times when I'm
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running I think about this.
I think, okay, I could sprint.
How long could I sprint to getaway from them?
First of all, because theymight get sprint faster than me,
right?
Speaker 2 (20:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
But I might can sprint longer than they, they
could sprint, and so y'all maythink I'm crazy, okay.
So like when I'm out there andI'm doing these like intervals,
it's like I'm not just trainingfor a race at nakalula or for a
half marathon, it's for my lifeyeah you know, um, and I hope
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that I never have to.
I'm never in a situation whereI'm having to run from somebody,
or, you know, or even if I wasneeding to run to something like
to help someone.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
That's where my mind goes with it, Because the last
thing I would want to be is tobe a father who doesn't have the
ability to run to his kids andto run to his spouse and do
everything I can to protect them.
Like could I grapple withsomeone you know, two minutes
solid, tensing every muscle inmy body, trying to give you the
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chance to run away.
You know, am I going to be ableto lock up two or three guys to
give you a chance at survival?
Speaker 1 (21:59):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
You know, even if it costs me my life, can I survive
long enough for you to last?
You know and and that's wheremy mind goes with it, and so I
was just thinking about thiswhen I was talking there was a
situation I had at um, on the ona plant floor the other day,
where a guy was uh cuttingsomething and and a razor blade,
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um, he was cutting.
He, always he I know this guy.
He always cuts away fromhimself, but for some reason he
was frustrated and he cuttowards himself and he cut right
into the meat of his thumb.
Oh, I mean, it laid it openabout a I think it was about an
inch and a half, and blood justautomatically was like shooting
out, right, and and I went into,um, you know bloodborne
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pathogen training, right, likeworried about, I don't know,
this person.
I don't know, if they've gotsomething, I automatically.
I ran to my box, got my med kit, came back out there, threw on
gloves, put on pressure,designated people to do cleanup
and bleach and everything andheaded off with him to the
bathroom, started doing coldwashes and antiseptics and
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pressure, and I got it by thetime I was done with him.
It was all wrapped up, it wasclean, everything was perfectly
fine.
And I look back on that, andthat was just and that was just
a small gaping wound, but I lookback on it, I was like if I
hadn't have had the walkthroughsin my mind with my training to
be able to be able to, it wassecond nature.
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It felt like this was justnatural.
This was the next step to take.
This was the next thing Ineeded to do to protect this
wound, to sanitize it, to makesure he didn't have infection,
to make sure it stopped bleeding.
You know, I was looking for I'd, even like I'd even when I
opened it up to really assess it, when he got a good look at it
underwater, I was like, is thissomething that I'm going to have
to literally hold his hand forthe next two hours to make?
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sure he doesn't bleed out.
You know, like I don't know, doI need a tourniquet, you know?
So all those things are goingthrough my head and when it was
all said and done, I steppedback and I was like if I hadn't
have prepared for this in mymind of what I would have needed
to have done in that situation,would I have been able to
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handle this correctly?
And I wouldn't have.
So there's a whole level ofpreparedness that God is
building up for us in our livesby saying these are the way that
you handle things.
This is the most efficient wayfor you to protect your family,
to provide for your kidsspiritually and nourishment.
Wise, to be the wise aunt.
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You know and do the things thatyou need to do and act the way
that you're.
That I'm calling you to actBecause when life hits you,
you'll have the resources to beable to handle it.
You will be prepared.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
You can run if you need to run.
You can stay if you need tostay.
You know because you're ready,because there was already so
much intention put in behind itand we talked about this knowing
our why we do things.
It's funny how a lot of thesepodcast topics they fold into
one another, right, but theyreally do Like, why are you
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doing the things that you do?
It should make sense and Godknew exactly why he was doing
what he was doing and the factis that we can trust him when
we're reading that and you'rereading about the fuzzy, leprous
, creepy spot.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
The pus.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
Yes, and you're like, oh my gosh, I see so much of
him in that now, and it is soamazing to me that you can read
that.
And maybe the first time youread it you're like I hate
reading this, this is so grossor it's so boring.
And now I'm like, oh my gosh, Ilove this.
Let's see all these little,what I deemed crazy little laws
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at first, you know, but it washis protection.
It's his love.
His love is throughout thewhole Bible.
It truly is a love story.
Yeah, truly Yep.
And I guess, like when you can,by the time you get to the New
Testament and Jesus has actuallycome and he has fulfilled all
that, and he says it is finished.
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We, we, one of our girls thatcomes on our bible recap nights
she talked about that.
How profound that was to herwhen she read.
When he said it is finishedbecause after you've read the
law and the prophets, you know.
You know what he was talkingabout.
Yeah, he wasn't talking aboutjust his physical life dying.
He was saying everything that Icame here to do has just now
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been fulfilled and I can and.
I can die.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
So you know, I can't remember if I told you this, but
did I tell you the thing aboutthe Jace Um, what's his name?
From duck dynasty Um?
Speaker 1 (26:44):
what's their names?
Speaker 2 (26:45):
Uh, goodness Phil and Roberson's yeah.
But Jace was um doing a messageone time in front of a church
and I can't remember where itwas, but it was like a big
conference, whatever and he saysI'm gonna sum the bible up in
30 seconds and and he saidgenesis to malachi, jesus is
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coming you know, and it's likeyou, I'm thinking about it as
we're going, really goingthrough it and deep, diving deep
into it.
You know, like yes, yes, this ispaving the way for jesus to
come.
And then he said he saidmatthew, mark, luke and john,
jesus is here.
Yes, you know, and it's justthe story of jesus, you know and
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and and, what happened, what hedid here and how he fulfilled
the law.
And then he says, from acts torevelations, he's coming again.
You know, and I was like yes,yes, like like the fulfillment
of the law isn't um, like sayingthat, like this person who is
separated because of something,it's not saying that that person
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is separated, but're we'resetting the stage to help
everyone survive and thrive andgrow.
And if this disease was to taketheir life, they followed the
law right.
They weren't separated becauseof necessarily.
I know the mariam thing wasdifferent, but yes but they
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weren't separated because of,necessarily, sin.
They could have just caught adisease yeah and god was
protecting everyone, but theyweren't separated because of,
necessarily, sin.
They could have just caught adisease and God was protecting
everyone, but they were stillwithin the law by obeying it and
putting themselves apart fromthe camp.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
That's right.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
So it's really important for us to just really
truly understand that God has apurpose in our life.
God has planned it out For usto just really truly understand
that.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
God has a purpose in our life.
God has planned it out.
He's not just trying to controlus.
No, here's the thing, though.
I want him to control it,because I'm terrible at this.
I don't want to control it.
I'm like God control me BecauseI've read his word.
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I have full trust in him thatit's only going to be good,
right, so why would I not wanthim to control me?
Speaker 2 (28:55):
When God bakes something in the oven, you don't
have to worry about it beingover full and setting off the
smoke alarm because he burnt it.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
He's talking about me right now.
He's saying that he has toworry about that with me, I do
Um.
Speaker 2 (29:09):
The smoke alarm has been jerked off the wall many
times in our household or thealarm company is calling us.
Is your house on fire?
Speaker 1 (29:16):
It's not, and I promise y'all I'm not a bad cook
.
Okay, no, just a few spellshere and there.
I'm very busy and I'm usuallydoing a thousand things while
I'm cooking.
Speaker 2 (29:25):
But God's recipe and His design, and when he's baking
it it's all going to come outjust the way.
That was a cheesy littleanalogy.
It's all going to come out ofthe oven, just perfect it really
is no flatbread no, like we cantrust him.
Speaker 1 (29:39):
That's all he wants.
And when we obey him and wetrust him, we're showing him
that we love him, and I do lovehim, I, and I want everything in
my life to be honoring to him.
And I know that everything inmy life isn't, but I'm striving
for it to be, you know, I'mstriving for it to be.
I want my life to be a life ofintention, that the intentions
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are for him.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
Mm-hmm.
So, yeah, there we go.
Speaker 1 (30:06):
Thank y'all for listening to us.
It's really super late rightnow, and so I'm probably going
to go to bed after we get donewith this, we'll crash and
upload this tomorrow.
Yes.
So thank you for hanging outwith us for episode 13.
We're going to have some guestssoon.
We're moving into a new seasonof you know.
Summer's coming up.
I always love summer because mykids are home.
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I'm one of those moms thatdoesn't, that really doesn't
like my kids being at school,because I like having them
around.
I really do enjoy my kids, but Icould I also could not do the
homeschool thing unless I had to, but, um, yeah.
So anyway, I think we're goingto be having some guests on here
and we're going to have somefun things coming up with
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running and starting our rungroup.
We are going to be doing thatthis summer.
So stay tuned.
And if you want to startrunning and you want to start
with some new intentions andactually fulfill them, see them
through with running, then youcan join us.
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And through the Bible as well,like reading your Bible.
If you didn't start with theBible recap when we started, it
doesn't matter.
Pick up where we're at rightnow or just start from the
beginning, it doesn't matter.
God is not saying, oh, she'snot on day 105.
You know, then, none of this isany count.
No, he doesn't care.
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He just wants you to seek himout, be intentional with your
relationship with him, so wewill see you next time.
The Lord bless you, keep youand make his face shine upon you
.
Hey everybody and welcome back.
We took a week break duringEaster week.
That's always such a busy weekand honestly it's just kind of a
hallowed week, I would say.
So we are back at it today,with starting with episode 13.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Episode 13.
So, yeah, we had a lot of goodtime with family on both of our
sides.
We have a lot of traditionsthat we try to keep up with
different sides of the familyand a few things that were
unique here and there thrown infun stuff.
And obviously things change asyou get older.
I think it was differentdefinitely with younger kids
(00:38):
versus older.
We only have a couple moreyounger kids in the family right
now.
Elle being one of them, elle'sone of the youngest of them all,
but yeah.
So Easter weekend, easter week,more younger kids in the family
right now l l's one of theyoungest of them all, but, um,
but yeah.
So easter weekend, uh, easterweek, there's always a lot, a
lot going on in the in thebuild-up to that, and then the
week of it um, we, we did some,some, you, some unique running
this week.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
I would say my booty still hurts from some hill work
so I I'm getting ready to do ahill uh race in next weekend,
not this coming up weekend, butthe next weekend so we started
last week doing uh training forthat and calvin has been along
for the ride on some of that andhe went on my long hilly run.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Yeah, that was actually like easter morning we
woke up really early and ran inthe sunrise.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
It was really fun we decided that we might make this
a tradition to have an earlyeaster morning run, and we
actually ran in the sunrise.
It was really fun.
We decided that we might makethis a tradition to have an
early easter morning run, and weactually were in the graveyard
too, so that was kind of cool itwas.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
It was really neat.
I mean, it's kind of somber,you know but, also, it gives you
a sense of uh, of joy, thinkingabout how, um you know, our
lord and savior, jesus christ,did come out of the grave he's
not in the the grave.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
He's not in the grave anymore.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
So we're so thankful for that and we're on the road
to recovery from that.
I think I'm going to try tosqueeze in a run tomorrow maybe,
but I don't know.
Right now our evenings are justso busy.
I don't know if that's probablygoing to happen, but yeah, so
we've had a lot of thoughtsgoing on with where we're at in
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our Bible reading.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
We've had a lot of thoughts going on with our
business and our running.
If you're doing the Bible recap, I want to encourage you to
keep on keeping on, and ifyou've fallen off the wagon you
can get back in there.
But hey, just all in all, readyour Bible.
You will not regret it, that isfor sure.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
You will not.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
But today's topic I'm really excited to talk about
and I don't know how long thisepisode will be uh, this is one
of those topics that you couldreally start getting into maybe
rabbit holes um but I thinkwe're going to talk about it
more broadly and that is reallyabout how, about god's laws and
how they apply today and howthey applied then and a lot of
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times like, especially if youwere reading the Bible recap we
came out of all of those booksfrom the Torah, which is Genesis
, Exodus, Leviticus, numbers inDeuteronomy.
And when you get to theLeviticus numbers in Deuteronomy
, you're going to get into thehardcore law, like he was saying
.
This is how you need to live,and the thing I love about
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reading the Bible is that youreally do get to see God's
character if you're looking forit.
You know, one of the greatthings about the Bible recap is
she is always focusing onfinding God in the scriptures
and not yourself in thescriptures.
Focusing on finding God in thescriptures and not yourself in
the scriptures, and you can seehis character and the reason
that he did the things that hedid and I think that's what
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we're going to talk about todayis that sometimes it might not
make sense or it might seem mean, but everything God does has a
purpose.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
Yeah, so when we first really started getting
heavier in on our running andwith Jude's actual training for
running and we've never reallyprocessed that in our life and
our any kind of fitness thatwe've ever done um, what it
actually takes and a lot of itdidn't quite make sense.
Sometimes I think you know,like, why are we doing it this
way?
Or why, what do we need to dofor this?
(04:00):
Why do, why do I feel this pain?
You know, here and there, youknow and you learn so much, and
not just with running, like thepains of business, the pains of
just growing Um, why, why doesit?
You know hindsight's, 2020,right.
So, I've done this a time or afew times before where you just
open your Bible to a randomscripture and you read it and
(04:20):
you try to make it make sense towhatever's going on and you
make something up.
And a lot of times it can bekind of fun for your youth group
.
You just find a scripture andbe like whatever it's about,
make it up into something.
So it kind of really shows howwe as humans can make anything
apply to our life in any weirdrandom way you can manipulate
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the scriptures.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
Yeah, it can be very manipulative.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
Any written word can be manipulated if you have ill
intent, and I think that'swhat's so important about the
laws in Leviticus, numbers,deuteronomy and everything is
that you don't try to findyourself in it and how you need
to run outside and sacrificeyour goat.
You need to try to find whatwas God's purpose behind it.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
What was?
Speaker 2 (05:03):
the intention behind why he had this, and you know
we've talked about this alreadythat we've learned so much
nowadays, as far as just oursociety it's so much more
advanced.
We're able to see so much moreabout how the world works that
some of these laws they reallymake a lot of sense now.
Whereas they might not havemade a lot of sense back then.
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It was just obedience.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
And when you're reading it you can think, good
grief, like they can't do this,they can't do that.
But I don't know, it's like allof a sudden.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
I'm just seeing it through different lenses, if
that makes sense yeah, so we had, we had a few different like
thoughts of certain laws thatthat were back then, that really
make a lot of sense nowadaysand and it's really important
that we understand that God'sGod has an intention.
He has intention, he has adesign to this.
There's a purpose for the lawsand and we're trying to
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understand what that purpose isin our life.
For for, for why?
We would you know?
For simple things, honoring ourmother and our father, that our
days may be long.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
Right.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
Yes, your mother and father, unless there is
something that is off, generallyhave what's best for your
interest in your life.
So you know, don't touch thateye on the stove.
It's hot.
They say that because there isa hope that you won't get
damaged.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
Not because you're trying to be a boss and tell
them what to do and what not todo.
It really is for yourprotection.
And I think about when God,when he was creating everything,
it was intentional.
God is not a God that is flyingby the seat of his pants.
Everything he does has apurpose.
He knows what is good.
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And now, if you are up today onthe bible recap, we're in the
life of david right now.
And, um, you see so many thingslike that.
God was so intentional, evenabout, like, when you went from
the judges into them having aking.
And he's even telling them hewas like, okay, you say you a
king, so I'm going to give you aking, but I just want you to
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know that having a king can benot a good thing.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
Yeah, he laid out what would happen if they had a
king.
And then, when they chose aking, or when a king was
anointed and they had a king,guess what happened?
Speaker 1 (07:20):
Yes, those things he warned them about the reason he
didn't want them to have a kingis because he is their king,
Like Jesus was the king of kings.
You know he wanted to be theLord of them and you know they
constantly rejected him.
And they wanted to have a king,like the other countries, you
know, so that they could be likeeveryone else.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
Yeah, but he already laid out in, like you know, the
Mosaic laws and things like that.
He already laid out a hierarchyof how to handle situations.
He already laid out of who yougo to with your grievances and,
if there's a concern for one ofthe laws being broken, how to
handle it.
He'd already laid all thelegalistic side, yes, and for a
(08:03):
while.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
There, moses was the one that was having to handle it
all, and you read thosescriptures where it's like, okay
, moses can't handle all of thison his own.
There was the delegation of theother people I think there was
70 or and it splits off intomore than that and it's like you
go to them with, like, I guess,smaller grievances or whatever.
If there was something likereally huge, then that would be
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brought up the chain to Moses.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
But, um, yeah, so which I mean who doesn't
struggle with delegation whenyou think that, when you think
that the concept or idea thatyou have about your life is the
best, or the way of doingsomething is the best, and
you're like I got to do this ifit's going to be perfect, right,
and delegating things is reallya difficult thing sometimes for
a lot of personalities.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
Yes, it is.
But you know, I think that whenit came to the law, you know
there was so much.
There were some really toughand hard consequences when they
broke those laws.
But it needed to be that waybecause we know what's coming
Like Jesus was coming.
Jesus was going to make the way.
These people had no way exceptthrough habitually making
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sacrifices and doing this anddoing that.
But there were certain thingsthat they would have to do.
I know that growing up, when Iread the Bible like when it
talked about somebody being castout of the camp or whatever I
immediately would think it'slike you're casting them out.
Punishment yeah, it's apunishment.
You want everybody.
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It's kind of like the kidsitting in the corner with the
dunce cap on.
You always saw cartoons likethat.
I've never in my life seen thatactually happen to anybody I'll
have a dunce cap on in thecorner, but to me.
That's what I equated as is tome.
I thought that they were beingshamed shamed, thrown out but a
lot of the times when they werecast out of the camp, it wasn't
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for that reason at all.
It wasn't even for sin.
It was for some kind of bodilydischarge like blood or sickness
.
It was things like that of whythey were basically quarantined.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
Yeah, so if you just think about the concept of
leprosy right, and it's acontagion right.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
It's contagious.
So if they don't understand theconcept of contagious diseases,
that are microscopic Germs yeah, germs, we have the ability to
see.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
We know so much.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
Germs, yeah, we know so much more as a society as a
whole, as humans, with whatwe've learned and done through
scientific process.
So it has its benefits.
It's not all smoke and waters,smoke and mirrors, but we know
so much.
So now we look back and we'relike, well, there's a reason why
God wanted them to be separate.
And I think back also, someonewho had leprosy I'm with you
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also.
I felt like earlier on they'rebeing shamed or they're
embarrassed about it, but reallythey are going through
something and if you understandthat this is a protection of the
other people, you're probablyreally going to want to go along
with it if you love the peoplethat you are around you are
going to want to go along withit If you love the people that
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you are around, you are going towant to separate yourself from
them and, you know, not withoutgetting any in any shape or form
political on this.
But society reverted veryquickly to separation when we
experienced COVID and there wasa lot of confusion about how
serious it was, how contagiousit was, how deadly it was, what
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are the conditions for this toactually affect people's lives.
And there was a lot of everyfamily kind of had to just go
with their own gut instinct,with what they knew and what
they could figure out as best asthey possibly could and handle
it how they could.
And a lot of people reverted toextreme separation because of a
fear, and some of it because ofunderlying health issues,
(12:03):
legitimate fears.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
Yes, you know, there was so much unknown, yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
But it's very unknown and it's the same situation
probably with a lot of thesepeople, like it was unknown how
contagious leprosy was.
But God said you need to beseparate.
If you are able to be healed ofthis or if you become clean of
this, then you representyourself Right and there's a
process for that.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
Yes, and you know there's a time too in the
scriptures, while they're in thewilderness, that Miriam and
Aaron both question Moses'authority.
They're like who are you to saythat God is the person who made
you the leader?
Well, god took heavy offense tothat, because to him that was
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them challenging him or themquestioning him.
It was doubt.
It was them doubting God andthat he had sent Moses.
So one of the things he does ishe immediately I guess the word
is curse curses Miriam withleprosy.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
Do you?
Speaker 1 (13:04):
remember this part.
Yes, yes, okay, and she'simmediately leprous.
Well, like moses is horrified,okay, because it's his sister,
and like this was a disease thatyou didn't really heal from.
Rarely were did anybody comeback from this, especially if
it's like covered head to toeyeah okay, and then you would
have.
There was those laws in therewhere it was like, if it's like,
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if it's white or if it's it'sreally gross.
It's gross things, it's oozing,then you're separate, or if it's
if it's scabbed, then you'reokay, but see all those things
make sense now because it's like, yeah, if it was like an open
wound, then you don't need tohave that around somebody.
But if it has scabbed over,probably okay, you're not going
to spread that to somebody.
But getting back to what I wassaying about Miriam, he pleads
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with God like, please, no, don'tlet this happen to my sister.
And God is going to allowMiriam to live.
But because she was leprous,what did she have to do?
She had to separate herself live, but because she was leprous.
What did she have to do?
She had to separate herself.
She had to separate herself now, guys think about this when the
israelites were traveling okay,this is not some little family
camping trip.
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Okay, we're talking aboutmillions of people, okay, so
even to go outside of the camp.
I don't even really know howfar someone would have to go
yeah, like.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
To get outside the camp yeah, I mean, even if you
had a crowd of a thousandpeople's homes, you know, like
their tents set up on acampground, um, you would be
separated and you'd have totravel a good ways if just for a
thousand people on a campground.
Yes, you know you'd have to,but you wouldn't see anyone in
knowing and knowing this she,she probably had to go far.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
But I always thought like, yeah, she got leprosy and
she had to get out of the camp.
And so I was thinking as achild, or even like yesterday
Miriam was, I thought she's castout because, you know, they're
having to really show her who'sboss, like she needs to be
shamed, like she's.
That's not why she was thrownout.
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She was thrown out, she gotleprosy because of her sin.
God was like boom, aconsequence Now she's outside
the camp because she has leprosy.
Because of the law, yes, andthat law was there to protect
her and to protect everyone elsein that camp from getting
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leprosy yeah, and it wasn't toprotect them from her.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
You know like we're exposed to people constantly
that god allows us to to beseparated from, because he's
trying to protect us.
Yes, you know not necessarilythat he's trying to punish other
people, but he's trying toprotect you from bad situations,
or?
Speaker 1 (15:44):
bad environments.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
You know, I remember you know as a young man,
thinking in high school, andthings.
When you know, you get yourdriver's license and you're like
I'm an experienced life andyou're going to go to go to
these people's houses.
Go to go to these people'shouses, like there was such a
culture that that when westarted getting some
independence and startedexperiencing what other people
(16:06):
were doing with their, theirwild lives, you know it's like,
okay, there's, there's a reasonwhy god was keeping me from this
, because it has no appeal to me.
You know, like like he wasprotecting me from that
environment, from being friendswith those people, even though
there might have been situationsthat I've been like, oh man,
I'm not with the in crowd orsomething like that, you know
but I look back on it.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
I'm like you know, thank you, lord, because I had a
great group of friends, um, youknow, in school and it's not
because you're special no youknow, it's not like he looked at
calvin was like I'm gonna keephim grounded by making him not
in the in crowd, you know, orwhatever.
Yeah, um, I think god uses oursituations, you know, to our
benefit.
(16:46):
You know, um, he knows whathe's doing.
He, uh, he is the, he's themaster, you know.
And so I think about, like, inour life, he has just as much as
he had intentionality when hewas creating everything.
He had intentionality when hewas creating everything.
He had intentionality when hewas making all those laws,
because Moses did not writethose laws.
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God wrote those laws and Moseswrote them down Correct, thank
you Moses.
The amount of pressure thatMoses had on him and then he
didn't even get to go in thepromised land because he still
messed up.
This is a man that was sostinking close to God that he
saw him face to face.
Yeah yeah, and he still messedup.
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There's hope for us all guys.
Okay, that was a little sidebar.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
We already said that there probably should be some
sidebars, just as much as he hadintentionality in creating
everything and in making allthose laws.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
He has intentionality in our life as well.
How many times are we thwartinghis intentions?
Speaker 2 (17:46):
And it can be something simple.
Yeah, something as simple asyou know, the, the nervous
energy that we get in a newenvironment where there's a
conversation that God is in, isinspiring you to have with
someone or to talk aboutsomething or to live your life
in a certain way, and it mightseem small, but there's an
intended purpose behind it.
(18:06):
You know, like are you?
Are you serving the purposethat God has for you right now
in your life, with youractivities that you're
participating in, Um, as simpleand monotonous as they might be,
even if, even if you work, youknow 16 hours a day and you and
you go home, eat with yourfamily and sleep for four hours,
wake up and drive another hourto work and work another 16
(18:27):
hours, Even if your life isconsumed by the demands of your
career and you're like I've gotto push through this, Even in
that monotony of work, work,work, work, work, there's an
intended purpose behind it andyou've got to find it.
You've got to recognize thatGod is using it for one reason
or the other.
Are you supposed to be aminister at that place, and what
(18:48):
is God using it for your futurewith your family?
Like we had many nights, manydays early on in our marriage
where those 16-hour doubles andtriples and quadruples.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
They were very abundant early on in our
marriage and, and it was hard itwas tough and we didn't have
children during that time.
We were married a whole sevenyears before we had children.
Um, and there may have beenintentionality behind that there
was definitely purpose behindthem.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
Yeah, there was I.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
It would have definitely been difficult having
a child involved with theschedules that that you were on
yeah um, there would have beenno way for you to have been
present to be honestly the waythat you, that you wanted to,
but everything in our lifeshould have intentionality, and
(19:38):
this is something.
This is a quote that I saw theother day, and so you know that
we're always going to go back tocoffee and running and jesus,
but um.
So this one in particular isabout fitness.
But, uh, fitness isn'teverything, but everything is
harder if you aren't fit.
It has just that has stuck withme, and it says there is more
(20:00):
to life than fitness.
However, there is more to lifewith fitness.
How much more can we do, calvin?
Because we can maintain a highheart rate.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
True.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
You know I was thinking about this and I've
said this before.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
Okay, Like first line of defense, I can run yeah,
yeah, if you're under attack,you can get away from it.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
We have always talked about this.
In this situation, you knowlike we're not going to talk
about guns and and weapons andall that stuff, um, second
amendment rights and all of that.
But even in our talks about youknow me carrying or things like
that, it's still the firstthing that you want to do is get
away from the situation period,and so a lot of times when I'm
(20:48):
running I think about this.
I think, okay, I could sprint.
How long could I sprint to getaway from them?
First of all, because theymight get sprint faster than me,
right?
Speaker 2 (20:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
But I might can sprint longer than they, they
could sprint, and so y'all maythink I'm crazy, okay.
So like when I'm out there andI'm doing these like intervals,
it's like I'm not just trainingfor a race at nakalula or for a
half marathon, it's for my lifeyeah you know, um, and I hope
(21:19):
that I never have to.
I'm never in a situation whereI'm having to run from somebody,
or, you know, or even if I wasneeding to run to something like
to help someone.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
That's where my mind goes with it, Because the last
thing I would want to be is tobe a father who doesn't have the
ability to run to his kids andto run to his spouse and do
everything I can to protect them.
Like could I grapple withsomeone you know, two minutes
solid, tensing every muscle inmy body, trying to give you the
(21:53):
chance to run away.
You know, am I going to be ableto lock up two or three guys to
give you a chance at survival?
Speaker 1 (21:59):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
You know, even if it costs me my life, can I survive
long enough for you to last?
You know and and that's wheremy mind goes with it, and so I
was just thinking about thiswhen I was talking there was a
situation I had at um, on the ona plant floor the other day,
where a guy was uh cuttingsomething and and a razor blade,
(22:21):
um, he was cutting.
He, always he I know this guy.
He always cuts away fromhimself, but for some reason he
was frustrated and he cuttowards himself and he cut right
into the meat of his thumb.
Oh, I mean, it laid it openabout a I think it was about an
inch and a half, and blood justautomatically was like shooting
out, right, and and I went into,um, you know bloodborne
(22:43):
pathogen training, right, likeworried about, I don't know,
this person.
I don't know, if they've gotsomething, I automatically.
I ran to my box, got my med kit, came back out there, threw on
gloves, put on pressure,designated people to do cleanup
and bleach and everything andheaded off with him to the
bathroom, started doing coldwashes and antiseptics and
(23:04):
pressure, and I got it by thetime I was done with him.
It was all wrapped up, it wasclean, everything was perfectly
fine.
And I look back on that, andthat was just and that was just
a small gaping wound, but I lookback on it, I was like if I
hadn't have had the walkthroughsin my mind with my training to
be able to be able to, it wassecond nature.
(23:26):
It felt like this was justnatural.
This was the next step to take.
This was the next thing Ineeded to do to protect this
wound, to sanitize it, to makesure he didn't have infection,
to make sure it stopped bleeding.
You know, I was looking for I'd, even like I'd even when I
opened it up to really assess it, when he got a good look at it
underwater, I was like, is thissomething that I'm going to have
to literally hold his hand forthe next two hours to make?
(23:52):
sure he doesn't bleed out.
You know, like I don't know, doI need a tourniquet, you know?
So all those things are goingthrough my head and when it was
all said and done, I steppedback and I was like if I hadn't
have prepared for this in mymind of what I would have needed
to have done in that situation,would I have been able to
(24:13):
handle this correctly?
And I wouldn't have.
So there's a whole level ofpreparedness that God is
building up for us in our livesby saying these are the way that
you handle things.
This is the most efficient wayfor you to protect your family,
to provide for your kidsspiritually and nourishment.
Wise, to be the wise aunt.
(24:36):
You know and do the things thatyou need to do and act the way
that you're.
That I'm calling you to actBecause when life hits you,
you'll have the resources to beable to handle it.
You will be prepared.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
You can run if you need to run.
You can stay if you need tostay.
You know because you're ready,because there was already so
much intention put in behind itand we talked about this knowing
our why we do things.
It's funny how a lot of thesepodcast topics they fold into
one another, right, but theyreally do Like, why are you
(25:09):
doing the things that you do?
It should make sense and Godknew exactly why he was doing
what he was doing and the factis that we can trust him when
we're reading that and you'rereading about the fuzzy, leprous
, creepy spot.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
The pus.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
Yes, and you're like, oh my gosh, I see so much of
him in that now, and it is soamazing to me that you can read
that.
And maybe the first time youread it you're like I hate
reading this, this is so grossor it's so boring.
And now I'm like, oh my gosh, Ilove this.
Let's see all these little,what I deemed crazy little laws
(25:49):
at first, you know, but it washis protection.
It's his love.
His love is throughout thewhole Bible.
It truly is a love story.
Yeah, truly Yep.
And I guess, like when you can,by the time you get to the New
Testament and Jesus has actuallycome and he has fulfilled all
that, and he says it is finished.
(26:11):
We, we, one of our girls thatcomes on our bible recap nights
she talked about that.
How profound that was to herwhen she read.
When he said it is finishedbecause after you've read the
law and the prophets, you know.
You know what he was talkingabout.
Yeah, he wasn't talking aboutjust his physical life dying.
He was saying everything that Icame here to do has just now
(26:32):
been fulfilled and I can and.
I can die.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
So you know, I can't remember if I told you this, but
did I tell you the thing aboutthe Jace Um, what's his name?
From duck dynasty Um?
Speaker 1 (26:44):
what's their names?
Speaker 2 (26:45):
Uh, goodness Phil and Roberson's yeah.
But Jace was um doing a messageone time in front of a church
and I can't remember where itwas, but it was like a big
conference, whatever and he saysI'm gonna sum the bible up in
30 seconds and and he saidgenesis to malachi, jesus is
(27:05):
coming you know, and it's likeyou, I'm thinking about it as
we're going, really goingthrough it and deep, diving deep
into it.
You know, like yes, yes, this ispaving the way for jesus to
come.
And then he said he saidmatthew, mark, luke and john,
jesus is here.
Yes, you know, and it's justthe story of jesus, you know and
(27:26):
and and, what happened, what hedid here and how he fulfilled
the law.
And then he says, from acts torevelations, he's coming again.
You know, and I was like yes,yes, like like the fulfillment
of the law isn't um, like sayingthat, like this person who is
separated because of something,it's not saying that that person
(27:49):
is separated, but're we'resetting the stage to help
everyone survive and thrive andgrow.
And if this disease was to taketheir life, they followed the
law right.
They weren't separated becauseof necessarily.
I know the mariam thing wasdifferent, but yes but they
(28:09):
weren't separated because of,necessarily, sin.
They could have just caught adisease yeah and god was
protecting everyone, but theyweren't separated because of,
necessarily, sin.
They could have just caught adisease and God was protecting
everyone, but they were stillwithin the law by obeying it and
putting themselves apart fromthe camp.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
That's right.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
So it's really important for us to just really
truly understand that God has apurpose in our life.
God has planned it out For usto just really truly understand
that.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
God has a purpose in our life.
God has planned it out.
He's not just trying to controlus.
No, here's the thing, though.
I want him to control it,because I'm terrible at this.
I don't want to control it.
I'm like God control me BecauseI've read his word.
(28:52):
I have full trust in him thatit's only going to be good,
right, so why would I not wanthim to control me?
Speaker 2 (28:55):
When God bakes something in the oven, you don't
have to worry about it beingover full and setting off the
smoke alarm because he burnt it.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
He's talking about me right now.
He's saying that he has toworry about that with me, I do
Um.
Speaker 2 (29:09):
The smoke alarm has been jerked off the wall many
times in our household or thealarm company is calling us.
Is your house on fire?
Speaker 1 (29:16):
It's not, and I promise y'all I'm not a bad cook
.
Okay, no, just a few spellshere and there.
I'm very busy and I'm usuallydoing a thousand things while
I'm cooking.
Speaker 2 (29:25):
But God's recipe and His design, and when he's baking
it it's all going to come outjust the way.
That was a cheesy littleanalogy.
It's all going to come out ofthe oven, just perfect it really
is no flatbread no, like we cantrust him.
Speaker 1 (29:39):
That's all he wants.
And when we obey him and wetrust him, we're showing him
that we love him, and I do lovehim, I, and I want everything in
my life to be honoring to him.
And I know that everything inmy life isn't, but I'm striving
for it to be, you know, I'mstriving for it to be.
I want my life to be a life ofintention, that the intentions
(30:02):
are for him.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
Mm-hmm.
So, yeah, there we go.
Speaker 1 (30:06):
Thank y'all for listening to us.
It's really super late rightnow, and so I'm probably going
to go to bed after we get donewith this, we'll crash and
upload this tomorrow.
Yes.
So thank you for hanging outwith us for episode 13.
We're going to have some guestssoon.
We're moving into a new seasonof you know.
Summer's coming up.
I always love summer because mykids are home.
(30:28):
I'm one of those moms thatdoesn't, that really doesn't
like my kids being at school,because I like having them
around.
I really do enjoy my kids, but Icould I also could not do the
homeschool thing unless I had to, but, um, yeah.
So anyway, I think we're goingto be having some guests on here
and we're going to have somefun things coming up with
(30:50):
running and starting our rungroup.
We are going to be doing thatthis summer.
So stay tuned.
And if you want to startrunning and you want to start
with some new intentions andactually fulfill them, see them
through with running, then youcan join us.
(31:10):
And through the Bible as well,like reading your Bible.
If you didn't start with theBible recap when we started, it
doesn't matter.
Pick up where we're at rightnow or just start from the
beginning, it doesn't matter.
God is not saying, oh, she'snot on day 105.
You know, then, none of this isany count.
No, he doesn't care.
(31:30):
He just wants you to seek himout, be intentional with your
relationship with him, so wewill see you next time.
The Lord bless you, keep youand make his face shine upon you
.
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