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June 27, 2025 48 mins

About the episode:

In this episode, Michael and Ben chat about upskilling sales teams, how sales methodologies are often overhyped, and why focusing on the basics might be the real key. They also talk about finding those ‘wow moments’ with buyers and making the whole process way simpler and more effective.


About the guest:

Ben Stokes is a seasoned VP of Sales. He's been building high performing teams for companies like ProofPoint and AdvancedMD. And now he is the VP of Sales at Responsive and the CEO of ForgePRO.


Where to find Ben Stokes:

LinkedIn ⁠⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/stokesben/


Where to find Michael (Founder & CEO @ SellMeThisPen AI):

Email: ⁠⁠michael@sellmethispen.ai⁠⁠

LinkedIn ⁠⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/michaelocean/⁠⁠


Try SellMeThisPen AI @ ⁠⁠https://www.sellmethispen.ai/⁠⁠

🌟 SellMeThisPen AI is the only all-in-one AI sales coaching platform that helps sellers in every step of their journey.


Before client calls - Role-play realistic sales conversations with AI to perfect your pitch and practice objection handling, without burning precious leads.


During client calls - Receive real-time guidance to handle objections consistently and get reminded to ask the right questions so you can win deals faster.


After client calls - Get unbiased feedback so you can improve next time. And it doesn't stop there—SMTP takes care of your notes and CRM updates so you can focus on selling instead of admin work.

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