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August 18, 2025 41 mins

Fresh off of Stefany's birthday weekend in NYC, we're back in studio for a debate on Taylor Swift's first pod performance, an insider's look at the science behind getting 10hrs of uninterrupted sleep (it can be done!), and the idea of sleep shaming. Stick around for the end as we take an unexpected turn into another dimension of spirituality and religion. We're light on the motherhood and big on the mysticism in this episode. It's random, but so are we.

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