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April 24, 2025 54 mins

Today I’m joined by Nicole Chang from the Stanford MBA Class of 1995 and Jesse Cai from the Class of 2025.

Nicole is a powerhouse strategist, entrepreneur, and global executive who’s spent three decades helping companies grow from good to great to legendary—often leading them through ownership transitions, IPOs, and international expansion. With roots in investment banking, consulting, and C-suite leadership across North America, Asia, and Europe, Nicole brings depth, heart, and unstoppable energy to every venture—including a recent creative collaboration with her singer-songwriter daughter.

Jesse is a second-year MBA student and former high-frequency trading leader who now balances part-time work at Hudson River Trading with finishing his final quarter at Stanford. With a background in computer science and a passion for algorithmic problem-solving, Jesse brings curiosity, candor, and a keen awareness of the ethical and cultural shifts shaping the future of AI and finance.

Together, Nicole and Jesse reflect on what it means to lead, adapt, and stay human across wildly different industries, life stages, and eras—from Wall Street to Shanghai, and from startup bootcamps to AI bootstrapping. We explore how culture, courage, and creativity define success—no matter the decade 

CHAPTERS

00:00 Introduction and Backgrounds

03:50 Career Paths and Work Experiences

07:00 High-Frequency Trading Explained

09:58 Diversity and Role Models in Business

13:16 Cultural Reflections and Asian American Identity

15:49 The Evolution of Startups and Technology

18:55 Personal Growth and Career Development

30:57 The Essence of Leadership and Organizational Culture

31:55 Experiences in Beijing: Leadership and Cultural Insights

37:02 Navigating Cultural Expectations and Identity

39:03 The Challenges of Returning to Roots

43:14 The Impact of AI on Technology and Jobs

45:46 Teaching the Next Generation: Creativity and Critical Thinking

52:12 The Role of Creativity in Music and AI

57:50 Reflections on Lifelong Friendships and Personal Growth


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Stanford MBA: From Baby Boomer to Gen Z | Class of ‘95 Meets Class of ‘25

Each of these episodes will feature a different pair of Stanford MBA people -- one from the class of 1995, and one from the class of 2025.

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