Today, I’m joined by Jason Lorber from the Stanford MBA Class of 1995 and David Goehring Freed from the Class of 2025.
Jason is a consultant, comedian, and former Vermont legislator whose eclectic career has spanned politics, activism, and executive development. After earning his MBA at Stanford, Jason founded Aplomb Consulting and later served eight years in the Vermont House of Representatives, advocating for reforms in prison policy and public accountability. As a stand-up comic who once opened for Joan Rivers, Jason now brings the principles of improvisation into leadership coaching—helping teams find clarity, connection, and courage amid complexity.
David is a second-year MBA student at Stanford GSB. Before business school, he worked at Walmart across capital markets, fintech, and international finance. This summer, he’ll join BCG in Boston, but he’s also building an aircraft maintenance company with his father—a venture rooted in safety, purpose, and generational partnership. At Stanford, David is co-leader of the R-Chucklers improv troupe and has discovered a deep commitment to authenticity and vulnerability as foundations of leadership.
Together, Jason and David reflect on the power of improvisation as a life practice—from comedy stages to boardrooms to legislative chambers. They explore risk, reinvention, and the art of listening—reminding us that the best leaders don’t come armed with all the answers, but with a willingness to co-create what comes next.
CHAPTERS:
00:00 Reconnecting and Backgrounds
01:54 Life Changes and Relocation
04:50 Improv and Its Impact
07:52 The Role of Improv in Leadership
10:57 Navigating Career Paths
14:02 Legislative Experience and Public Service
16:51 Career Choices and Family Business
19:54 Comedy and Self-Expression
30:25 The Joy of Comedy Nights
34:04 The Art of Stand-Up: Preparation vs. Improvisation
37:47 Improv Skills in Business
42:07 Learning from Failure
49:02 AI in Retail: Enhancing Creativity
55:55 Navigating the Current World: Perspectives of a New Generation
Join the Podcast Series
Stanford MBA: From Baby Boomer to Gen Z | Class of ‘95 Meets Class of ‘25
Each of these episodes will feature a different pair of Stanford MBA people -- one from the class of 1995, and one from the class of 2025.
Remember to rate, review, and subscribe to stay connected with future episodes!
📺 Also available on YouTube:
Entire series playlist:
https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLSaVisoF0D_GKxVmHmakNxdpAJCb5_VTP
More info: https://www.katharinemclennan.com/
Contact: kath@katharinemclennan.com
Popular Podcasts
Bookmarked by Reese's Book Club
Welcome to Bookmarked by Reese’s Book Club — the podcast where great stories, bold women, and irresistible conversations collide! Hosted by award-winning journalist Danielle Robay, each week new episodes balance thoughtful literary insight with the fervor of buzzy book trends, pop culture and more. Bookmarked brings together celebrities, tastemakers, influencers and authors from Reese's Book Club and beyond to share stories that transcend the page. Pull up a chair. You’re not just listening — you’re part of the conversation.
On Purpose with Jay Shetty
I’m Jay Shetty host of On Purpose the worlds #1 Mental Health podcast and I’m so grateful you found us. I started this podcast 5 years ago to invite you into conversations and workshops that are designed to help make you happier, healthier and more healed. I believe that when you (yes you) feel seen, heard and understood you’re able to deal with relationship struggles, work challenges and life’s ups and downs with more ease and grace. I interview experts, celebrities, thought leaders and athletes so that we can grow our mindset, build better habits and uncover a side of them we’ve never seen before. New episodes every Monday and Friday. Your support means the world to me and I don’t take it for granted — click the follow button and leave a review to help us spread the love with On Purpose. I can’t wait for you to listen to your first or 500th episode!
Dateline NBC
Current and classic episodes, featuring compelling true-crime mysteries, powerful documentaries and in-depth investigations. Follow now to get the latest episodes of Dateline NBC completely free, or subscribe to Dateline Premium for ad-free listening and exclusive bonus content: DatelinePremium.com