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September 11, 2025 65 mins

Josh Peterson sits down with Jim Smith, founder and CEO of Proper Sky, to unpack the messy, real work of scaling an MSP. From losing 90% of MRR and rebuilding, to building a sales engine (HubSpot + PSA), hiring leaders, and living the mantra “Who, not what,” Jim shares what actually moves the needle.n this From the Trenches episode, Josh Peterson talks with Jim Smith of Proper Sky (https://propersky.com) about growing an MSP the hard—but right—way.

Jim traces his path from one-big-client risk (and the painful collapse that followed) to rebuilding with discipline: owner-led sales, a clear message (“IT the proper way”), and purpose-built systems in HubSpot (https://www.hubspot.com) tied to ConnectWise PSA (https://www.connectwise.com). If you’re wrestling with churn, pipeline, or leadership layers, this conversation is a blueprint for maturing your MSP without losing your soul. Mentioned: IT Nation (https://www.connectwise.com/it-nation) and Entrepreneurs’ Organization (https://www.eonetwork.org). For proven MSP playbooks—pricing, sales comp, service KPIs, and the Vision system—tap the resources at https://beringmckinley.com

[MSP growth] [MSP sales process] [HubSpot CRM for MSP] [ConnectWise PSA] [MSP onboarding] [MRR diversification] [service gross margin] [SDR/BDR for MSPs] [MSP marketing] [EOS for MSPs] [who not what hiring] [owner-led MSP selling] [top-down vs bottom-up sales] [building MSP sales infrastructure] [effort vs results in sales] [IT Nation networking] [HubSpot–ConnectWise integration] [MSP pipeline metrics] [client NPS and eNPS targets] [avoiding single big client risk]

#msp , #FromTheTrenches, #ProperSky,#mspgrowth ,#mspsales ,#hubspotcrm ,#connectwise ,#SDR,#bdr ,#mrr ,#onboarding , #WhoNotWhat, #eos , #ITNation,#entrepreneurship #Entrepreneurship, #BeringMcKinley

 

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