September 12, 2025 • 48 mins
In this inspiring conversation with hosts Chelsea and Jovanna, Dr. Alexandra Perel-Winkler shares her transformative journey from medicine to the mystical arts. She reflects on the importance of authenticity, healing, and community while exploring the challenges creatives face in staying true to themselves. Dr. Perel-Winkler also offers practical grounding techniques to help reconnect with one’s essence. This dialogue celebrates the power of sisterhood and support among women in creative fields, encouraging listeners to embrace their unique voices and walk their paths with confidence.
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Welcome to the creative sisterhood where women take
center stage on screen and behind the scenes.
I'm Jovana Burke, actress, filmmaker, producer and founder
of Grand Blvd. Entertainment.
And I'm Chelsea Hobbs, writer partner in Grand Blvd. and your
copilot on this wild ride through the entertainment
industry. Between the two of us, we've
spent over 50 years carving our own paths in this business, and
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now we're handing you the blueprint.
Each week we dive into real conversations about acting,
creating your own work, buildingyour brand, and surviving this
industry with your soul intact. Whether you're an aspiring
actress and indie filmmaker or just done waiting for permission
to tell your story, this space is for you.
Because here on The Creative Sisterhood, we don't play by the
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rules. We make our own.
Let's get into it, OK? So our guest today isn't an
actor or producer. She doesn't have a background in
film, but she's a physician. She's a multi dimensional
healer, a heart centered coach, and she blends her medical
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background with intuitive gifts to help creatives and beyond
find their career, their clarity, and the meaning in the
midst of modern life. Alexandra Peril Winkler is a
master at teaching us how to find our grounding, stop playing
the good girl role in life and beyond so we can step into our
power. And we thought that she'd be the
perfect person to give us some tips on owning ourselves and
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just making stuff happened. So welcome.
To the back to the pod. Thank you guys.
I'm so happy to be here. OK, so Alexandra, why don't you
just tell us a bit about your journey through medicine and how
it's LED you to now wanting to help people find themselves in
the Mystic arts and sort of whatyou're doing?
Yeah. So really, you know, as so many
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of us, it all starts. From when we.
Were a little kid and for me it was the same thing.
I always had this feeling insidemy heart of yearning of
curiosity, of eagerness. And that was really around
wanting to help others, wanting to understand health and
Wellness. And in my world that meant
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becoming a doctor. You know, I can't see with my
parents. And I was like, hey, I feel this
thing within me. I want to help people.
And they were like, great, I'm adoctor.
And that never felt like the perfect puzzle piece for me.
But because of all of the cultural conditioning around it,
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that's sort of what I did. You know, you spoke to the good
girl stuff. That was the time playing in my
world at the times I went into medicine.
And while I was doing that, or you know, even in my undergrad
as I was leading up to medicine,I was always sort of like the
black sheep. Like I did my undergrad in arts,
I studied the social studies of medicine.
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So like the history of medicine,anthropology, sociology, things
around medicine. I was always like, I owned it.
Yeah. I got into medicine, I did my
medical degree in Ireland, so I went to Ireland.
I was there. I got exposed to different
things while I was there. I studied yoga, nutrition.
I was always like on my own, studying other things.
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But at the time I was like, I want to be an integrative Dr. I
want to be a holistic Dr. Those are sort of like terms to me
that made me feel like, OK, I would be considering the whole
person. And I just kept seeking and
seeking and seeking through becoming a doctor, through
internal medicine residency, through rheumatology fellowship,
and nothing ever felt right. And I had a major moment when my
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father was diagnosed with pancreatic cancer, which was
nine years ago now. And for things who don't know,
that's basically a death sentence.
He was given 5% chance to live and I just had one of those what
I call like a Thunderbolt moment.
It was just this like thunderstruck of clarity where I
was not on the path that I wanted to be on.
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I wanted to help my father in the way that felt like it was
like a soul calling for me and the information that I had, the
tools that I had didn't feel aligned.
It's not that he didn't go through the Western medicine
path as well. It's not that, you know, he
wasn't helped by medications andsurgery and all the other
things, but for me, it just didn't feel aligned.
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And that's where I sort of started taking, you know, my
spiritual path and my yearning off of the shelf and was like, I
need to take this more seriously.
And so it's probably been, yeah,nine years now where I've really
been seeking and learning and doing trainings, but also just
really doing my own work and looking within to really find
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what it is that wanted to come through me.
And it's only been in the last few years that I've really
brought that to others where I can help other people reconnect
with that feeling. Because I think it's.
So whether it's medicine, whether it's, you know, in the
creative work that you guys do, no matter what we're doing, we
all have that yearning to align with who we.
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Are. And really hard in this world.
Yeah, Yeah. It really, really is.
Yeah. As an artist, it's definitely,
it's the center of everything wedo.
And if we're not aligned with who we are really, really well,
then we're never being truly authentic.
And a lot of people are afraid to to get to that center place,
you know? And so I think this is really
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interesting work that you're doing.
Yeah. So do you, do you work with a
lot of people that are trying tonavigate their creative lives
and careers? And do you see, like, clearly
what is stopping people off like, you know, from
accomplishing a lot of like, what stops people the most?
Like, what do you see? So I think the three things come
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to mind initially. So #1 we've sort of been saying
it already that that lack of alignment with our center, with
what I call our soul. I know that's a scary.
Word for a lot of people, but ittruly is the essence of who we
are and so when so sort of goingback to my story, what I
realized was that I was really looking people talk a lot about
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mind, body, soul, mind, body spirit.
That's like the Trinity of what we are and yet in our in
medicine, but also in our general culture, it's like mind
and body is really what people talk about.
We've sort of destigmatize mental health, which is amazing.
So we can talk about anxiety, wecan talk about depression, we
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can talk about sort of our cognitive processes and
patterns, but there's no one actually talking about the soul.
And that was the part that was really feeling amazing.
So I think that the foundation of my work and the foundation of
sort of what you were speaking to Chelsea is like people are
not aligned with that essence ofwho they are.
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And I think the bigger why of that is, well, it's not really
talked about. It's not accepted.
There's been a lot of trauma around religion and spirituality
as well. So people kind of link the soul
or spiritual work with religion and so that makes them
uncomfortable. And then there's these
overarching programs and narratives that exist.
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So you guys are talking about creativity and how it's so
important in your work to align with that essence.
But then of course, there's so much in the dominant culture and
the dominant world around us that is taking people out of
that all the time. It's like, you should look like
this. You should, you know, think like
this, you should appear like this, all of these things.
So people are are looking outward and they're thinking,
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oh, if I fit into XYZ mold, thenI will be successful.
But what is actually true and what we're all saying is like,
no, you actually need to get in Word.
You need to tune in Word and find that unique spark.
So I think it's really, I love that helping people become aware
of those patterns, whether it's familial or cultural, societal,
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intergenerational, and finding how those patterns affect them.
And then it's the good girl piece too, you know, which is
so, so, so dominant. Being really scared to be true,
even if you are tuning into thatessence, to be true to that
essence and to be unapologetic, to be a little bit different, to
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go against the grain. That's so, so huge, especially
the female, like actor or even, you know, an actor that's
stepping into like producing or the creative side, like, you
know, a lot of our listeners are.
And, and 8:00 and 8:00 after 35,you know, that becomes a bigger
thing for us where we're constantly going, wow, I've been
sort of playing the part and going along with it.
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And something does shift in US, especially closer to 40, where
you, you do settle more into that wanting to be authentic to
your, your soul calling and your, your spirit and your
purpose. Like, and I think that it is so
important in our arts, whatever your art is, you know, so that's
really, really wise. I think that there's a almost
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initiation in my my world. That's what I consider it.
That happens around 40 when we're there is this maturing
process where there's this natural sort of energetic
evolution that really wants to happen where we want to.
We're sick of it. We're sick of the good girl.
We're sick of that, like totally, you know, and we're so
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ready to step into that more mature version of ourselves.
And so I think that a lot of people feel that tension too,
because they've been doing the good girl patterning.
Maybe it's been working for them.
And then all of a sudden there'ssomething deeper within them
that's ready to shift and that'sready to sort of go through that
initiation process and go on to that next chapter.
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So what I see often is when we work against the flow, that
resistance can lead to a lot of discomfort and pain.
But when we work with it, we getsort of like, you know, air
under our wings. There's like a natural lift.
It can be really scary, but we step forward into that next
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iteration of ourselves and we kind of get that like natural
kind of energetic push. How would you, you know, kind of
guide somebody who's really pushing against that?
Like where does somebody start? You know, if if they are feeling
that push, but they don't know what to do, Like where do they
begin to, in your opinion, find that authentic, you know, voice
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inside them and then like listento the to the voice inside.
Like what's? What are some things that you
might suggest? Well, so there's there's.
Two places that someone can be with that there's either the
place where the resistance is happening, the pain, the
discomfort, the life is is suffering all around them, but
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they're not feeling the urge andthe yearning.
And it's really hard when that is the case, then then we need
them to listen to this podcast and we need them to be like, is
that me? You know, something needs to
out. So there's some willingness,
right? There's some desire, there's
some yearning. Once you have this sparkle of
yearning, then everything is open to you.
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And I think that the first step is, which can be really scary at
the beginning, is the foundational work of tuning in.
You know, it's there. It's there for us, but we need
to tune into it. I sometimes talk to people about
my work and I'm like, I reconnect people to their soul.
How do you do that? And he's like, yeah, OK, so my
work is super esoteric sometimes, you know, I'm doing
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energy work with people and there's guides and there's crazy
energy moving. Sure, it's really cool and fun,
but we can all tune into our soul by really getting quiet and
just doing it. So it's finding the time to sit
down and TuneIn and close your eyes and feel.
I can also we could do like a little guided meditation later
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if we wanted to, but closing theeyes and tuning in and feeling
into that light feeling into that essence that is within you.
I recommend doing it. You know, when you're when
you're seated in a quiet room and won't be interrupted and it
really can take a few minutes, you know, a few moments.
And the more that you tune into that, the more you get
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accustomed to how that feels to be tuned into it and the easier
it gets. I recommend for people to wake
up in the morning and tune into it right away.
So you're lying in bed, you haven't had the mess of kids
around you or the phone immediately in your face or your
do list or your emails. You're not clogged with
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anything. You just wake up and the first
thing you do is just TuneIn Wordand you tune in Word.
You feel that and that's how youstart your day.
So I think that's a really nice practice.
And I also think things like embody practices like walking in
nature or even just going for a walk anywhere you can go for a
walk around your neighborhood, maybe without something in your
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ears, maybe without listening tomusic or without listening to a
podcast and just taking 5 minutes to just feel how you're
feeling and tune into yourself. These, like basic practices, I
think are the foundation. I'm huge on nature healing.
Like I live in North Vancouver, so for me it's very accessible,
but I remember one of my kids was struggling with some stuff
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and a doctor prescribed us nature healing and it was
amazing. I mean, it just forces everybody
to like disconnect and especially when you're alone,
like you said, you get to just look inward and, and you're
forced to, I mean, the best is if you leave your phone, you
can't, you know, you can't be onyour phone and do it obviously
defeats the purpose. But yeah, I'm, I'm big on that.
I think that's like a really good tip because it's a really
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simple way to be forced just to be really present, you know?
Totally. And I think something about
nature also is that when you arein nature, if you really can get
into on a path or in the forest or at the beach, you sort of
feel that essence within nature too.
So it's like the reflection within you and outside of you.
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It's like the same thing. You know, ultimately I believe
that that essence all comes fromsource.
And so it helps amplify that feeling.
When you like look at all the trees and you're feeling that
pulse of energy and aliveness and life force.
It's a bit easier to then TuneInand be like there it is in me
too. Yeah, I love that.
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A. 100% I find for me, water, looking at just the water
rippling really settles my brainbecause I have, I, I suffer from
anxiety and so I have a lot of thoughts all the time that are
going, going, going, going and it like slows me down and forces
me to watch the water and it kind of just like makes me
breathe and like figure things out a little bit.
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So I think there's so many places in nature where you can
find calm and, you know, whetherit's the trees or the water or
whatever it may be for you. But yeah, I definitely think
nature is a healer for sure. Yeah, well, okay, so that's a
good one. And then okay, so talking about
healing, you talk about healing to thrive a lot and as artists
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like we would argue that we needto access so.
Much of our pain. For our art.
And so I think that that's also a really interesting subject in
conversation that I'd love to know your thoughts on because,
yeah, like a lot of people wouldargue that you have to access
your trauma or your pain to makemeaningful art.
And I do think that there are ways, you know, to do that.
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Like, some people successfully do it, but some people really,
really struggle with it. So as an artist, what does
healing look like, like and, andhow can we, you know, come face
to face with that without, yeah,with being able to heal, but
still being able to feel like we're being authentic in our art
without traumatizing ourselves. Totally.
Yeah. I love this because this is just
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about being a 360° human being, right?
Like I believe that healing is wholeness.
And so when we have trauma or wehave the different spectrums of
emotion, like, yes, let's accessit all, let's feel it all, but
let's do that in a way that feels like we have capacity for
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it. So the more that we can be
centered in ourselves, the more we can feel into all aspects of
the spectrum of emotion, but be able to have that equanimity.
So yes, you can go there with your craft and you can like, you
know, in a way that I don't, I don't specialize, but you guys
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do. You can like access that and you
can dip into that, but it doesn't have to be like a trauma
reactivation. So you can have that trauma be
healed in your nervous system and integrated.
So that's what I consider the wholeness.
So it becomes like a tapestry and it's like, yes, this is like
a beautiful and awful, you know,part of my history, but there's
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no like snags. It's just part of the picture
and the tapestry of who I am. And I can go back in there.
I can access that and I can feelthat feeling and it grows our
resiliency in our capacity and our nervous systems capacity to
hold those different emotions because life is always going to
throw us curveballs. So absolutely like the healing
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work is not about love and lightand like always being like
perfect. And you know, that's that good
girl fallacy. It's like, no, sometimes it's
messy. You know, I'm going through this
transition in my work, you know,from leaving medicine and, and
really blossoming into putting this work out there.
And that's scary sometimes. And I have like impostor
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syndrome and I have fear and I have, you know, like the good
girl tendencies or I have thoughts in my head that are
like, you should do the thing that's safe.
There's all all the voices will come up at different times in
our life. And I think that is an important
thing. And a big piece of my work is
also recognizing when you are out of that soul alignment and
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you are identifying with those voices.
I think that that is a huge partof my work and a part of work
that people can do on their own where you can sort of think
about like, oh, if I so for example, I'm doing this
transition I described and I really got the clarity that this
was the right time to do with this transition into, to put my
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work out there. And then I got super scared and
super unsure and all these different voices came at me.
And so for about two weeks, I was like back and forth waffling
until I kind of got some supportand had some people who knew me
really well reflect back to me like, these are the voices.
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These are not. But these are not the voices of
the soul. These are the voices of the
different parts of me that are trying to keep me safe and
they're trying to keep me small.And those voices are never going
to go away. We're always going to live with
those voices, but it's about living in harmony with them so
that you. I love that.
Recognize like, OK, I'm being thrown off the path that I know
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I want to be on and it's OK, that's just a part of me and I
need to come into a good relationship with that part so
that I can tend to that part with compassion but not let it
steer me off course. Yeah, yeah, we've been talking a
lot about that, about the voicesinside and the self doubt and
the imposter syndrome. Right, Joe, absolutely.
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Especially in what we do, it's, it's tough because we're also
transitioning from, you know, working in front of the camera
all the time to now doing more stuff behind the camera and
navigating a new kind of whole new career that way.
And it's really scary and it's very different.
And we have imposter syndrome every single day.
At least I do. So yeah, me too.
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Well, and we come across like a lot of you know, it's a very.
It's still is a. Very male dominated field and
and it's about also as like women or females like finding
our voice and not feeling like we have to like you said, play
the good girl will be. You know, meek or quiet and not
be afraid to ask for what we want and step into our power.
And it's so interesting how muchyou realize you do that when you
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try to not do it. When you're stepping.
Into a a different place like inin a different industry like
that. Yeah, so.
Yeah, totally. Because these parts of us are so
unconscious and then you become aware of them.
And then I, I always see it almost like it's like a fractal
or like a crystal and like you kind of you're like, OK, so I
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see my good girl tendency in my work.
But then all of a sudden you start seeing your good girl
tendency and then you're like, there it is in my relationship.
There it is. You know, when I'm at the
grocery store now I'm finding myhairdresser, she's feeling like
all these it, it comes out in all these different ways.
And the hardest part is becomingaware first.
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Yeah, yeah, that's so. That's so true.
And then living, I think as you guys were saying, like when
you're living with that voice, it's so amazing and it's such
hard work to be living with thatvoice of imposter syndrome, for
example, and doing it anyway. And so I don't.
Yeah. I just wanted to say that
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because that is really powerful work to do.
Yeah. You were also talking about like
centering and I want to, I want to hear more about that because
I feel like that's something that I mean, and maybe it it's
again, tapping into your soul. Maybe it's kind of one in the
same, but centering is somethingthat we as like actors
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definitely I think have have to practice and and get good at.
But then, I don't know, sometimes stepping into other
parts of business in our industry, it can be really hard
to find your center. So what does centering look like
to you and like what can you kind of tell us a little bit
about that? Yeah.
I mean, for me, the centering really is just coming back and
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knowing that that feeling of being in your soul's essence.
So that to me is a centering piece.
There's also grounding techniques, which I think are
more energetic and physical thatI do that I can include later,
where you can kind of be carefulto move your energy into your
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body and into your sort of lowerbody because so much of the
time. So our culture is so
intellectualized, so much of ourenergy is up around our heads.
And that's leading. And I think it's, it's a part of
why we're all feeling really anxious because our energy is
like up and out of our overthinking.
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Yeah. And we're thinking, thinking,
thinking. And you know, in my reality,
being sort of attuned to energy and understanding our systems as
more than just are like physicalform, but understanding we kind
of project energy outward. And then we're also sort of have
spider senses that are understanding the energy around
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us. It sort of is this like loop
where my energy is up here and everyone else's energy is up
here. We're just like ping ponging off
each other, bringing more energyup and out of our bodies.
So getting into the body I thinkis really important.
And then the centering is sort of like the most grounding piece
of being like, OK, I'm going to ground into my body and then I'm
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going to center and really plug into my soul.
Because when we are connected toour soul, we're connected, as I
said, to something that is like more expensive and greater than
ourselves. So there's this crazy when you
do it, there's this crazy feeling that you almost get a
sense of how those parts kind ofshift.
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And I use the term who do you orlike the idea of like, who do
you want to drive your bus? You know, if you have a school
bus, do you want one of your like rowdy children to be
driving that bus? So that's like your imposter or
your, you know, people. And the reality is these these
parts are children, right? Like most of our parts driving
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us are so young. And so they're getting, they're
running the show. And you're like, why am I
letting this person drive my life?
You know? Yeah.
So centering to yourself, you'relike, that's who's driving the
bus. And it's not that those children
are being thrown off the bus, but it's like, just get into the
back, have a snack. Like here's some compassion and
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love for you, but like, you're not driving.
You've got this. It's the sage, old lady.
Driving the bus? Yeah, exactly.
Yeah. Yeah.
I think it's like when you do the action, the idea of
centering and why I like that term is because it's like what's
in the center? It's like who is connecting all
the parts? And when you do the work of
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centering, then the parts almostlike automatically calm down.
And TuneIn, you're like, they'relike, oh, this is who I can sort
of rely on. This is who I I can relax a
little bit because I didn't realize this part could actually
drive. Yeah, I don't care.
Well. It's actually really scary.
Amazing. So, so if we feel like, oh, you
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go ahead. No, I was just going to ask, you
know, if we're feeling so out oftouch with our center, let's
say, and anxiety is taking over our bodies aside from nature,
Like what if we're not in natureor somewhere else?
Like, what else can we do to ground ourselves?
Like I know what I can do as an artist, but like I would love to
hear some ideas from you. My exact question too.
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So let me just TuneIn to what wants to come through for that.
I think that two things, I mean,there's lots of things we can do
and I'd love to hear what you guys do, but some things that
came through is 1 like grounding.
Practices so having. Some what I call energetic
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hygiene. So understanding that we as a
system are not just our physicalform and our active mind, but we
also are this the spirit and energy.
And so we do want to bring that energy down into our bodies and
we can do short meditations where we can imagine energy.
I really often guide people to imagine their energy in their
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pelvis. So you have, you know, you can
even look at the anatomy and seethat you have your pelvic bowl
and you can imagine sort of the orb of light in that pelvic bowl
and you can draw all of your energy in and down to that orb
of light in your pelvic bowl. And then you can extend a cord
from that to the earth below you.
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And so just allowing your energyto come down into your body and
down into the earth and really feel that plug into the earth is
a really, really beautiful practice.
So yes, it's nice to ground. Like you can put your feet on
the earth and you can, you know,walk in nature And those are
very grounding too. But I really like to
energetically ground. It's a really foundational
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practice that I run through withpeople.
I think especially if you are tuning in or if you're an
intuitive, I think a lot of people who are creatives and in
your world will be very energetically sensitive and
intuitive. And so often that also makes us
a little bit prone to having ourenergy up here because it's like
our third chakras open information is coming in.
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So we're like up here and it's exciting sometimes and we can
get downloads and that's really great.
But we want to balance that and that that's very helpful for our
systems. It's a nice like energetic
balancing and it's also really, really nice for the nervous
system. It feels really safe and it
feels really held when it's grounded.
I've never thought to ground like that.
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Like I always ground through my feet and I think of grounding as
obviously that type of grounding.
And I've been told when I've hadlike my aura read all of that,
that, you know, my aura was like6 feet above my head and I
needed to ground and to me that's what it looked like.
I never like. I'm curious as to why the pelvis
is. It's the center right of our
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bodies. I guess, I guess and the.
Bottom and the bottom part. Yeah, you can definitely ground
through your legs. Like that's not wrong.
So if it works for you and it feels good, then go with it.
But you know, that's cool. The chakra, the chakra center is
like as Joe was saying, it really is like from head to the
base of your pelvis. So there is that base chakra at
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the bottom right at the perennium and then in our kind
of womb. Space for us?
Female folks is also such a powerful center, so I like to
incorporate both of those and and draw the energy in and down
from there. That's really.
That's really cool. Yeah.
And then that can really be usedby a lot of people in the arts,
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you know, because we all get anxious when we're about to
perform, audition, pitch, whatever that might be, which a
lot of us are on the spot a lot of the time.
And so doing a practice like that, I feel like that's really
going to help me. And I hope it helps others.
And the other thing, and I don'tknow if this was just coming
through for you, Joe, because you're mentioning water, but
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another practice, it's not really a practice.
It's like a self-care thing. Water.
So bathing with salt. So I put, I, I make one of my
teachers has a practice of ritual baths.
And so I really took that on from her.
But making your bath sort of like a potion for yourself or
whatever you need. So that could just be a warm
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bath with some Epsom salts. And that is phenomenal.
But the salts themselves are very clarifying for the
energetic field and they're alsovery grounding.
So it's really nice if you're working with a lot of people,
which you guys are, you're around tons of people all the
time. Getting into a bath with salt in
it can be just like really clearing and sort of help you
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disconnect from like the energies that you might be
carrying from the day and also super, super grounding.
And then if you're using Epsom salts, you get that nice
magnesium absorption, which is just so good for our.
I'm obsessed with Epsom. Salts.
Yeah, I like to do that. I read somewhere that salt like,
heals everything, right? Salt water, but also your tears,
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like whatever salt that might be, it like heals you.
So like, yeah, I love that. Salt is definitely a healer.
Yeah. And you can make it like kind of
fancy, like if you are having a lot of anxiety putting lavender
and or like choosing a plant or a central oil or a crystal.
And you can be very intuitive and just make it this beautiful.
Yeah, self-care ritual that can be really lovely and fast if you
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don't need to like go and get anything fancy that you don't
have. Yeah, I love that.
Amazing. Yeah, amazing.
OK, Charles. OK, so something we talk about a
lot is being too big and too much and not letting fear take
over. Yeah.
I mean, I guess if we're talkingabout all of that stuff, like I
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think opening up your chakra is really important and I don't
know if you have any practices for that, but what is your take
on on those types of fears or rituals?
Do you feel that way? I have dealt with being too much
and also not enough at the same time.
But yeah, yeah, I. Can relate to that something.
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Within me they're like. You're yanking.
You're. Yank.
Totally. You do like, I mean, even in
your practice, like, you know, it's something I think whether
you're creative or not, like be as females definitely come up
against that all the time. Yeah, yeah.
I mean, I feel like feeling too big is or the too much is really
related again to that people pleasing good girl tendency of
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just wanting to be safe and wanting to be accepted and not
wanting to, you know, push boundaries where someone might
say, oh God, I am too much. We just want that we all have
this innate desire to belong, tohave love, to be accepted by the
tribe. You know, that is the essential
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positioning of our basic nervoussystem.
You know, it's going to help direct us to belonging and
safety. And so when we feel like we're
too much, I think that that is an indication where, wow, that
too muchness is actually your medicine.
That's actually your spark. That's actually the thing that
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is probably the unique thing that we all need.
You know, I've been feeling likeall of this stuff that I'm
talking about right now is too much.
Even when I started talking justnow about like, you know, the
energetics, I was like, oh, I wasn't like planning on going
like too deep into energetic hydrogen.
Like, is this too much you? Know I love.
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It right, but that's like but that's what I am working on
getting comfortable putting out and I think that and that's
what's unique and what I've I guess I've been fighting with my
own too muchness for so many years, and so that's why I see
that because I've looked back somany times where I thought wow,
like I remember when I was wanting to put more of this out
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there eight years ago or six years ago, and there's been so
many times where I stopped myself because it felt like it
was too much or it felt like I wouldn't be afforded or it felt
like it wouldn't land. So I actually feel like the work
is recognizing again, that that is probably your unique
signature that you want to put out into the world and that the
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world needs. Because if it's too much, if it
feels like it's too much, it's probably unique, it's probably
different. It's probably 100% your your
thing. Your voice, that's.
What it is, Yeah. It's your essence, right?
And it's the truth. It's just it's afraid.
It's like a wall. We have to push through it and
just keep pushing. And then and something I was
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just like reviewing a little bitof our conversation, Chelsea,
before we came on in preparationand something that came through
for your audience was the Soul Transmission is magnetic.
And that felt like, you know, I think that that really is what
we're talking about overall. It's like we so many people in
your field want to have that magnetic quality, but if you're
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not willing to be a little bit too much or to be different or
to show up with your that essence, yeah, then it's not
going to really be magnetic. No, you're boring like normal is
boring, I remember my mom telling me.
You're just a basic bitch. Yeah, yeah.
And. If there are basic.
Bitches listening. There's nothing wrong with that.
No, as an artist, as a creative person, like you really do have
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to tune into your center as you've talked about.
As artists, we really need to know ourselves inside and out
and not be afraid of who we really are.
And for a lot of people, it's just like getting to know
yourself better and better through the years.
And you know, for me, at this point in my life, like, I don't
really give a shit what people think anymore.
It's like, OK, you know, here I am, take me or leave me.
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You don't like me? Whatever.
Yeah. Moving on, you know?
And so that's kind of like, it'ssuch a freaking thing, but it's
taken years to get here. So it's like, how can we help
those people that aren't here yet get here so they can feel
free too? Yeah.
I think a lot of times it's about awareness first.
Like it, I feel like a broken record on that, but it's you
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have to figure out that that is the thing that's going on in
your system. And then you have to be, you
have to do the thing that makes you a little bit uncomfortable.
You have to push yourself out there and and you know, in the
somatic world, call it titration, like you don't want
to just go crazy and be like, OK, I'm going to do a 360
because then all your parts are going to go crazy and, and react
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away again. So it's like, oh, what can I do
to like open up that that throator, or speak my truth in a way
that might feel safe. So maybe I'm like opening up and
bring with a good friend the thesecret that I really want to do.
Or maybe I'm just like step by step by step you do the thing so
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you can grow that that safety inthat capacity.
And then I think it's also that constant recognition, like you
were saying, Joe, it's like I live with the imposter syndrome
every day while you live with, you know, that tendency towards
that, that people pleasing part or that good girl part every
day. And you see her and you see her
tendency and you're like, I'm going to choose differently.
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And eventually she just kind of calms down.
Yeah, it's like the it's like the devil on your shoulder.
They say, like in acting school,you know, like you're always
going to have the devil say you can't do it.
You just have to learn how to shut that voice up and just tell
them to shut the hell up and like, just like, play it.
Yeah, see you later. Like, we're going to do this.
And yeah. Yeah, absolutely.
Yeah, but it but it is, it is different when you're stepping
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into a new field because there is so much unknown.
There is no guarantee, there's no certainty.
I mean, it is whatever you're stepping into, it's such a risk.
It's the risk of failure, the fear of failure or not
acceptance. I mean, that's it.
It takes brave people to do that.
But I think that we're all capable of it.
Yeah. And I think what's important,
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you know, what comes up for me is intuition.
So when you are in your center, your intuition is much more
aligned. So then when you're not just
like, OK, screw you, good girl, I'm going to do the thing.
And then you're sort of you are too much in a moment.
You know, some maybe you can't handle that.
Maybe you do need help. Maybe you'd need to learn a
task. So it's like when you are in
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your center, then you can also navigate step by step and being
like, OK, this is like, it's notme being too much.
I actually need help here. Or maybe I'll need a resource or
maybe I need a coach for this orwhatever it is.
So it's not either or, it's it'sbeing able to like, intuitively
navigate. That's huge.
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Yeah, that's, that's definitely huge knowing when to call in for
help. And, and we talked a lot about
community and sisterhood. And I think that's a really, you
know, important conversation as well, because there's only so
much that we can do ourselves. And not having the fear of
reaching out to other people forhelp is, I think, a really
other, another really big thing.Absolutely like reaching out to
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you or you know, to any anybody that wherever you're kind of at
a loss. It's really, really.
People who calm your nervous system, who are, you know,
supportive, obviously, I mean, you have to know where to find
your people as well. Which which kind of leads us
into the sisterhood a little bit, right?
Like, you know, you coming here,it's part of like our sisters
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and our sisterhood of, of learning about who we are and
trying to push the boundaries and be better people,
understanding ourselves and all of that.
So what does that mean to you? Like, what does it mean to have
kind of a community of of folks around you in your world?
Yeah, it's, it's evolving for mefor sure.
It's, it's a, it's an actively evolving thing for me.
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And I think it's so essential. And I think that that we're
really at a moment right now where women are stepping forward
in such a powerful way as you guys are showing here to support
one another. And that's what I'm really,
really excited about where I think we're really moving past
this cultural, this time in our society and in our culture where
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there was a lot of competition between women and I think that
there was an unconscious sort oftakedown or or you know, that
catfight sort of like it all. Goes back to Brandy and Monica,
the boys mind. I didn't even realize how, Yeah,
there are so many sick things about the not around us.
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Yeah, around us as we were, as we were growing up.
And so I think that it's a really exciting time where I've
been having amazing conversations with women in
different fields where people are excited to lift each other
up. And I think that that is what
sisterhood, like a mature sisterhood is really about, is
about being really excited aboutother people's projects and
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really excited to say, like, oh,you're doing this thing, I want
to support you and I'm doing this thing and I need your
support, you know, asking for that help too, and being, and
having that relationship or thatthere's that safety and, and
that network where people want to show up for one another.
And I think it's a really, really powerful.
It's going to be a really. Very powerful force in the
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world. Yes, yeah, I agree.
We are no stranger to children, so that is just fine.
OK. Is there anything that you think
that we could do? You want to walk us through like
a couple minutes, like a quick thing before we say goodbye?
Yeah, absolutely. So, yeah, so I will say that,
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you know, what I'm talking abouthere is very like at home, what
happens in sections with me can be a little Wilder because.
Because I'd love to, yeah, so much can shift and move.
But I think that everything we talked about here is really the
foundational work that if you doon your own at home, it's going
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to be super powerful. I can lead us through a few
minutes of a guided meditation, which can include some grounding
and centering or anyone listening.
Don't do this while you're driving a car.
Pull over. Pull over.
OK, so if you're comfortable, you can close your eyes.
If it takes a few moments for you to feel comfortable going
inward right away, you can just look at a few objects around you
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and your surrounding environmentto just tune into the here and
now. And for anyone listening, I also
want to honor that if something doesn't feel good for you.
Everything that I say is an option for you to do is an
invitation, but just go with what feels right for you.
So with your eyes closed, starting to bring your breath in
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and out through the nose, imagining the breath coming down
in and around the heart space. And as you breathe out, just
imagining clearing the heart space, bringing nutrition and
vitality into the heart space asyou breathe in and letting go of
any dense energy that is no longer needed on the way out.
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And then I'll switch your focus,if you feel ready, to that area
in the pelvis we were talking about earlier.
Imagining a red, orange, golden orb of light floating in the
center of your pelvis and takinga moment to imagine the
energetic tendrils that might beconnected to, to do lists, to
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conversations, interactions, stresses, projects, your social
media feed, your emails. Imagine how your energy is
connected to all of these things, and I just want you to
allow your energy to disconnect for this moment in time and
bring that energy in and down into that orb of light in the
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center of your pelvis, hauling all parts of you back in and
down. You might even feel to shift
something visceral as you call all parts of you back.
And when that feels complete, you can reconnect with that orb
of light. Feel how you're more in your
body, feeling your bum on your chair, maybe your feet on the
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ground or tucked underneath you.And now you can imagine some
energy from this orb of light hobbling down through the area
of your body, touching your seatand flowing down through the
floorboards of your building andinto the earth below you.
Allowing this energy to flow down through layers of soil and
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silt and sand and rock, past communities of roots of plants,
in underground networks of animal homes, micellial
networks, salt, stone, underground waterways.
You could imagine your energy flowing wider and deeper, like
your own root system of a tree grounding you down into the
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earth. Taking a few moments to feel
that connection, taking a few breaths here.
And when you feel rooted and grounded, you can bring your
energy, sorry, your attention back up to the center of your
chest and look deeply within your chest, deeper than your
heart space deep within the center of yourself, and find
your light. It might be a flame, it might be
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a glow, it might be a felt senseof an essence and allow that to
expand and grow as you tune intoit.
Perhaps it grows just a little bit brighter, but you might also
feel it expanding with a warmth across your chest, maybe into
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your shoulders and down into your belly, maybe down into your
pelvis, up into your face, maybeeven expanding out into your
energetic fields. And feel how when we tune into
this essence of your light and when it's expanding into your
field, you might notice a clearing or releasing of other
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energies that are old, that no longer serve you, that are no
longer aligned with your highesttimeline.
Allow that to occur. Allow me to transmit this
blessing to you and your fields.And when you feel ready, you can
come back. Wow.
That was amazing. That was amazing.
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We're going to have to like separate that and leave it as a
guided meditation. That was incredible.
That was that's my gift. Thank you.
Thank you for that gift. That was.
Thank you. Thank you so much.
You've taken up way too much of your time.
It's so amazing having you on the podcast and listening to
your insights and your wonderfulenergy.
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So where can people find you andwhat can we look forward to
seeing you do in the? Yes, I'm so excited.
As I was saying, I'm expanding. I really feel like it's an
important time where we all needto be tuning into our soul.
A big part of what I'm going to be talking about a lot is just
there's so many changes coming in the world with AI and
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technology making our lives feelso much more anxious,
overwhelming. And so I feel like it's, as I
said, really time for me to stepforward and help people tune
into themselves in this way. So I have my mailing list, which
is really the place to come because there's so much to
that's going to be happening in my world.
So if I will give you guys the link that people can get on my
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mailing list. And if you join my mailing list,
there will be a nice little sequence of emails that will
come to you that will offer you different exercises and guided
meditations similar to what we just did and different
exercises. So join my mailing list.
Instagram is the Mystic medicineand that's my website as well,
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www.themysticmedicine.com. You can find my booking links
and all of that there. And I'm so excited to work with
more intuitive, creative people,so.
We love it. Yes, myself.
Thank you so much here Doctor Alex online if you feel
inspired, listener, if you feel excited, energized, go follow
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her on socials and join her mailing list.
I know I will D get on the list.We all need a little more
grounding. Grounding and.
Centering got to do it. Yeah.
Thank you so much, it was lovely, lovely to have you.
My absolute pleasure, I love what you guys are doing.
Thanks for putting it out there.Thank you.
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We don't play by the rules. We make our own.
Welcome to the creative sisterhood where women take
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I'm Jovana Burke, actress, filmmaker, producer and founder
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And I'm Chelsea Hobbs, writer partner in Grand Blvd. and your
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Because here on The Creative Sisterhood, we don't play by the
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rules. We make our own.
Let's get into it, OK? So our guest today isn't an
actor or producer. She doesn't have a background in
film, but she's a physician. She's a multi dimensional
healer, a heart centered coach, and she blends her medical
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background with intuitive gifts to help creatives and beyond
find their career, their clarity, and the meaning in the
midst of modern life. Alexandra Peril Winkler is a
master at teaching us how to find our grounding, stop playing
the good girl role in life and beyond so we can step into our
power. And we thought that she'd be the
perfect person to give us some tips on owning ourselves and
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just making stuff happened. So welcome.
To the back to the pod. Thank you guys.
I'm so happy to be here. OK, so Alexandra, why don't you
just tell us a bit about your journey through medicine and how
it's LED you to now wanting to help people find themselves in
the Mystic arts and sort of whatyou're doing?
Yeah. So really, you know, as so many
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of us, it all starts. From when we.
Were a little kid and for me it was the same thing.
I always had this feeling insidemy heart of yearning of
curiosity, of eagerness. And that was really around
wanting to help others, wanting to understand health and
Wellness. And in my world that meant
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becoming a doctor. You know, I can't see with my
parents. And I was like, hey, I feel this
thing within me. I want to help people.
And they were like, great, I'm adoctor.
And that never felt like the perfect puzzle piece for me.
But because of all of the cultural conditioning around it,
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that's sort of what I did. You know, you spoke to the good
girl stuff. That was the time playing in my
world at the times I went into medicine.
And while I was doing that, or you know, even in my undergrad
as I was leading up to medicine,I was always sort of like the
black sheep. Like I did my undergrad in arts,
I studied the social studies of medicine.
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So like the history of medicine,anthropology, sociology, things
around medicine. I was always like, I owned it.
Yeah. I got into medicine, I did my
medical degree in Ireland, so I went to Ireland.
I was there. I got exposed to different
things while I was there. I studied yoga, nutrition.
I was always like on my own, studying other things.
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But at the time I was like, I want to be an integrative Dr. I
want to be a holistic Dr. Those are sort of like terms to me
that made me feel like, OK, I would be considering the whole
person. And I just kept seeking and
seeking and seeking through becoming a doctor, through
internal medicine residency, through rheumatology fellowship,
and nothing ever felt right. And I had a major moment when my
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father was diagnosed with pancreatic cancer, which was
nine years ago now. And for things who don't know,
that's basically a death sentence.
He was given 5% chance to live and I just had one of those what
I call like a Thunderbolt moment.
It was just this like thunderstruck of clarity where I
was not on the path that I wanted to be on.
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I wanted to help my father in the way that felt like it was
like a soul calling for me and the information that I had, the
tools that I had didn't feel aligned.
It's not that he didn't go through the Western medicine
path as well. It's not that, you know, he
wasn't helped by medications andsurgery and all the other
things, but for me, it just didn't feel aligned.
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And that's where I sort of started taking, you know, my
spiritual path and my yearning off of the shelf and was like, I
need to take this more seriously.
And so it's probably been, yeah,nine years now where I've really
been seeking and learning and doing trainings, but also just
really doing my own work and looking within to really find
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what it is that wanted to come through me.
And it's only been in the last few years that I've really
brought that to others where I can help other people reconnect
with that feeling. Because I think it's.
So whether it's medicine, whether it's, you know, in the
creative work that you guys do, no matter what we're doing, we
all have that yearning to align with who we.
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Are. And really hard in this world.
Yeah, Yeah. It really, really is.
Yeah. As an artist, it's definitely,
it's the center of everything wedo.
And if we're not aligned with who we are really, really well,
then we're never being truly authentic.
And a lot of people are afraid to to get to that center place,
you know? And so I think this is really
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interesting work that you're doing.
Yeah. So do you, do you work with a
lot of people that are trying tonavigate their creative lives
and careers? And do you see, like, clearly
what is stopping people off like, you know, from
accomplishing a lot of like, what stops people the most?
Like, what do you see? So I think the three things come
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to mind initially. So #1 we've sort of been saying
it already that that lack of alignment with our center, with
what I call our soul. I know that's a scary.
Word for a lot of people, but ittruly is the essence of who we
are and so when so sort of goingback to my story, what I
realized was that I was really looking people talk a lot about
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mind, body, soul, mind, body spirit.
That's like the Trinity of what we are and yet in our in
medicine, but also in our general culture, it's like mind
and body is really what people talk about.
We've sort of destigmatize mental health, which is amazing.
So we can talk about anxiety, wecan talk about depression, we
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can talk about sort of our cognitive processes and
patterns, but there's no one actually talking about the soul.
And that was the part that was really feeling amazing.
So I think that the foundation of my work and the foundation of
sort of what you were speaking to Chelsea is like people are
not aligned with that essence ofwho they are.
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And I think the bigger why of that is, well, it's not really
talked about. It's not accepted.
There's been a lot of trauma around religion and spirituality
as well. So people kind of link the soul
or spiritual work with religion and so that makes them
uncomfortable. And then there's these
overarching programs and narratives that exist.
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So you guys are talking about creativity and how it's so
important in your work to align with that essence.
But then of course, there's so much in the dominant culture and
the dominant world around us that is taking people out of
that all the time. It's like, you should look like
this. You should, you know, think like
this, you should appear like this, all of these things.
So people are are looking outward and they're thinking,
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oh, if I fit into XYZ mold, thenI will be successful.
But what is actually true and what we're all saying is like,
no, you actually need to get in Word.
You need to tune in Word and find that unique spark.
So I think it's really, I love that helping people become aware
of those patterns, whether it's familial or cultural, societal,
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intergenerational, and finding how those patterns affect them.
And then it's the good girl piece too, you know, which is
so, so, so dominant. Being really scared to be true,
even if you are tuning into thatessence, to be true to that
essence and to be unapologetic, to be a little bit different, to
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go against the grain. That's so, so huge, especially
the female, like actor or even, you know, an actor that's
stepping into like producing or the creative side, like, you
know, a lot of our listeners are.
And, and 8:00 and 8:00 after 35,you know, that becomes a bigger
thing for us where we're constantly going, wow, I've been
sort of playing the part and going along with it.
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And something does shift in US, especially closer to 40, where
you, you do settle more into that wanting to be authentic to
your, your soul calling and your, your spirit and your
purpose. Like, and I think that it is so
important in our arts, whatever your art is, you know, so that's
really, really wise. I think that there's a almost
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initiation in my my world. That's what I consider it.
That happens around 40 when we're there is this maturing
process where there's this natural sort of energetic
evolution that really wants to happen where we want to.
We're sick of it. We're sick of the good girl.
We're sick of that, like totally, you know, and we're so
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ready to step into that more mature version of ourselves.
And so I think that a lot of people feel that tension too,
because they've been doing the good girl patterning.
Maybe it's been working for them.
And then all of a sudden there'ssomething deeper within them
that's ready to shift and that'sready to sort of go through that
initiation process and go on to that next chapter.
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So what I see often is when we work against the flow, that
resistance can lead to a lot of discomfort and pain.
But when we work with it, we getsort of like, you know, air
under our wings. There's like a natural lift.
It can be really scary, but we step forward into that next
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iteration of ourselves and we kind of get that like natural
kind of energetic push. How would you, you know, kind of
guide somebody who's really pushing against that?
Like where does somebody start? You know, if if they are feeling
that push, but they don't know what to do, Like where do they
begin to, in your opinion, find that authentic, you know, voice
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inside them and then like listento the to the voice inside.
Like what's? What are some things that you
might suggest? Well, so there's there's.
Two places that someone can be with that there's either the
place where the resistance is happening, the pain, the
discomfort, the life is is suffering all around them, but
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they're not feeling the urge andthe yearning.
And it's really hard when that is the case, then then we need
them to listen to this podcast and we need them to be like, is
that me? You know, something needs to
out. So there's some willingness,
right? There's some desire, there's
some yearning. Once you have this sparkle of
yearning, then everything is open to you.
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And I think that the first step is, which can be really scary at
the beginning, is the foundational work of tuning in.
You know, it's there. It's there for us, but we need
to tune into it. I sometimes talk to people about
my work and I'm like, I reconnect people to their soul.
How do you do that? And he's like, yeah, OK, so my
work is super esoteric sometimes, you know, I'm doing
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energy work with people and there's guides and there's crazy
energy moving. Sure, it's really cool and fun,
but we can all tune into our soul by really getting quiet and
just doing it. So it's finding the time to sit
down and TuneIn and close your eyes and feel.
I can also we could do like a little guided meditation later
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if we wanted to, but closing theeyes and tuning in and feeling
into that light feeling into that essence that is within you.
I recommend doing it. You know, when you're when
you're seated in a quiet room and won't be interrupted and it
really can take a few minutes, you know, a few moments.
And the more that you tune into that, the more you get
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accustomed to how that feels to be tuned into it and the easier
it gets. I recommend for people to wake
up in the morning and tune into it right away.
So you're lying in bed, you haven't had the mess of kids
around you or the phone immediately in your face or your
do list or your emails. You're not clogged with
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anything. You just wake up and the first
thing you do is just TuneIn Wordand you tune in Word.
You feel that and that's how youstart your day.
So I think that's a really nice practice.
And I also think things like embody practices like walking in
nature or even just going for a walk anywhere you can go for a
walk around your neighborhood, maybe without something in your
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ears, maybe without listening tomusic or without listening to a
podcast and just taking 5 minutes to just feel how you're
feeling and tune into yourself. These, like basic practices, I
think are the foundation. I'm huge on nature healing.
Like I live in North Vancouver, so for me it's very accessible,
but I remember one of my kids was struggling with some stuff
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and a doctor prescribed us nature healing and it was
amazing. I mean, it just forces everybody
to like disconnect and especially when you're alone,
like you said, you get to just look inward and, and you're
forced to, I mean, the best is if you leave your phone, you
can't, you know, you can't be onyour phone and do it obviously
defeats the purpose. But yeah, I'm, I'm big on that.
I think that's like a really good tip because it's a really
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simple way to be forced just to be really present, you know?
Totally. And I think something about
nature also is that when you arein nature, if you really can get
into on a path or in the forest or at the beach, you sort of
feel that essence within nature too.
So it's like the reflection within you and outside of you.
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It's like the same thing. You know, ultimately I believe
that that essence all comes fromsource.
And so it helps amplify that feeling.
When you like look at all the trees and you're feeling that
pulse of energy and aliveness and life force.
It's a bit easier to then TuneInand be like there it is in me
too. Yeah, I love that.
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A. 100% I find for me, water, looking at just the water
rippling really settles my brainbecause I have, I, I suffer from
anxiety and so I have a lot of thoughts all the time that are
going, going, going, going and it like slows me down and forces
me to watch the water and it kind of just like makes me
breathe and like figure things out a little bit.
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So I think there's so many places in nature where you can
find calm and, you know, whetherit's the trees or the water or
whatever it may be for you. But yeah, I definitely think
nature is a healer for sure. Yeah, well, okay, so that's a
good one. And then okay, so talking about
healing, you talk about healing to thrive a lot and as artists
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like we would argue that we needto access so.
Much of our pain. For our art.
And so I think that that's also a really interesting subject in
conversation that I'd love to know your thoughts on because,
yeah, like a lot of people wouldargue that you have to access
your trauma or your pain to makemeaningful art.
And I do think that there are ways, you know, to do that.
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Like, some people successfully do it, but some people really,
really struggle with it. So as an artist, what does
healing look like, like and, andhow can we, you know, come face
to face with that without, yeah,with being able to heal, but
still being able to feel like we're being authentic in our art
without traumatizing ourselves. Totally.
Yeah. I love this because this is just
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about being a 360° human being, right?
Like I believe that healing is wholeness.
And so when we have trauma or wehave the different spectrums of
emotion, like, yes, let's accessit all, let's feel it all, but
let's do that in a way that feels like we have capacity for
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it. So the more that we can be
centered in ourselves, the more we can feel into all aspects of
the spectrum of emotion, but be able to have that equanimity.
So yes, you can go there with your craft and you can like, you
know, in a way that I don't, I don't specialize, but you guys
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do. You can like access that and you
can dip into that, but it doesn't have to be like a trauma
reactivation. So you can have that trauma be
healed in your nervous system and integrated.
So that's what I consider the wholeness.
So it becomes like a tapestry and it's like, yes, this is like
a beautiful and awful, you know,part of my history, but there's
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no like snags. It's just part of the picture
and the tapestry of who I am. And I can go back in there.
I can access that and I can feelthat feeling and it grows our
resiliency in our capacity and our nervous systems capacity to
hold those different emotions because life is always going to
throw us curveballs. So absolutely like the healing
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work is not about love and lightand like always being like
perfect. And you know, that's that good
girl fallacy. It's like, no, sometimes it's
messy. You know, I'm going through this
transition in my work, you know,from leaving medicine and, and
really blossoming into putting this work out there.
And that's scary sometimes. And I have like impostor
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syndrome and I have fear and I have, you know, like the good
girl tendencies or I have thoughts in my head that are
like, you should do the thing that's safe.
There's all all the voices will come up at different times in
our life. And I think that is an important
thing. And a big piece of my work is
also recognizing when you are out of that soul alignment and
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you are identifying with those voices.
I think that that is a huge partof my work and a part of work
that people can do on their own where you can sort of think
about like, oh, if I so for example, I'm doing this
transition I described and I really got the clarity that this
was the right time to do with this transition into, to put my
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work out there. And then I got super scared and
super unsure and all these different voices came at me.
And so for about two weeks, I was like back and forth waffling
until I kind of got some supportand had some people who knew me
really well reflect back to me like, these are the voices.
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These are not. But these are not the voices of
the soul. These are the voices of the
different parts of me that are trying to keep me safe and
they're trying to keep me small.And those voices are never going
to go away. We're always going to live with
those voices, but it's about living in harmony with them so
that you. I love that.
Recognize like, OK, I'm being thrown off the path that I know
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I want to be on and it's OK, that's just a part of me and I
need to come into a good relationship with that part so
that I can tend to that part with compassion but not let it
steer me off course. Yeah, yeah, we've been talking a
lot about that, about the voicesinside and the self doubt and
the imposter syndrome. Right, Joe, absolutely.
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Especially in what we do, it's, it's tough because we're also
transitioning from, you know, working in front of the camera
all the time to now doing more stuff behind the camera and
navigating a new kind of whole new career that way.
And it's really scary and it's very different.
And we have imposter syndrome every single day.
At least I do. So yeah, me too.
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Well, and we come across like a lot of you know, it's a very.
It's still is a. Very male dominated field and
and it's about also as like women or females like finding
our voice and not feeling like we have to like you said, play
the good girl will be. You know, meek or quiet and not
be afraid to ask for what we want and step into our power.
And it's so interesting how muchyou realize you do that when you
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try to not do it. When you're stepping.
Into a a different place like inin a different industry like
that. Yeah, so.
Yeah, totally. Because these parts of us are so
unconscious and then you become aware of them.
And then I, I always see it almost like it's like a fractal
or like a crystal and like you kind of you're like, OK, so I
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see my good girl tendency in my work.
But then all of a sudden you start seeing your good girl
tendency and then you're like, there it is in my relationship.
There it is. You know, when I'm at the
grocery store now I'm finding myhairdresser, she's feeling like
all these it, it comes out in all these different ways.
And the hardest part is becomingaware first.
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Yeah, yeah, that's so. That's so true.
And then living, I think as you guys were saying, like when
you're living with that voice, it's so amazing and it's such
hard work to be living with thatvoice of imposter syndrome, for
example, and doing it anyway. And so I don't.
Yeah. I just wanted to say that
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because that is really powerful work to do.
Yeah. You were also talking about like
centering and I want to, I want to hear more about that because
I feel like that's something that I mean, and maybe it it's
again, tapping into your soul. Maybe it's kind of one in the
same, but centering is somethingthat we as like actors
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definitely I think have have to practice and and get good at.
But then, I don't know, sometimes stepping into other
parts of business in our industry, it can be really hard
to find your center. So what does centering look like
to you and like what can you kind of tell us a little bit
about that? Yeah.
I mean, for me, the centering really is just coming back and
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knowing that that feeling of being in your soul's essence.
So that to me is a centering piece.
There's also grounding techniques, which I think are
more energetic and physical thatI do that I can include later,
where you can kind of be carefulto move your energy into your
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body and into your sort of lowerbody because so much of the
time. So our culture is so
intellectualized, so much of ourenergy is up around our heads.
And that's leading. And I think it's, it's a part of
why we're all feeling really anxious because our energy is
like up and out of our overthinking.
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Yeah. And we're thinking, thinking,
thinking. And you know, in my reality,
being sort of attuned to energy and understanding our systems as
more than just are like physicalform, but understanding we kind
of project energy outward. And then we're also sort of have
spider senses that are understanding the energy around
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us. It sort of is this like loop
where my energy is up here and everyone else's energy is up
here. We're just like ping ponging off
each other, bringing more energyup and out of our bodies.
So getting into the body I thinkis really important.
And then the centering is sort of like the most grounding piece
of being like, OK, I'm going to ground into my body and then I'm
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going to center and really plug into my soul.
Because when we are connected toour soul, we're connected, as I
said, to something that is like more expensive and greater than
ourselves. So there's this crazy when you
do it, there's this crazy feeling that you almost get a
sense of how those parts kind ofshift.
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And I use the term who do you orlike the idea of like, who do
you want to drive your bus? You know, if you have a school
bus, do you want one of your like rowdy children to be
driving that bus? So that's like your imposter or
your, you know, people. And the reality is these these
parts are children, right? Like most of our parts driving
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us are so young. And so they're getting, they're
running the show. And you're like, why am I
letting this person drive my life?
You know? Yeah.
So centering to yourself, you'relike, that's who's driving the
bus. And it's not that those children
are being thrown off the bus, but it's like, just get into the
back, have a snack. Like here's some compassion and
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love for you, but like, you're not driving.
You've got this. It's the sage, old lady.
Driving the bus? Yeah, exactly.
Yeah. Yeah.
I think it's like when you do the action, the idea of
centering and why I like that term is because it's like what's
in the center? It's like who is connecting all
the parts? And when you do the work of
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centering, then the parts almostlike automatically calm down.
And TuneIn, you're like, they'relike, oh, this is who I can sort
of rely on. This is who I I can relax a
little bit because I didn't realize this part could actually
drive. Yeah, I don't care.
Well. It's actually really scary.
Amazing. So, so if we feel like, oh, you
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go ahead. No, I was just going to ask, you
know, if we're feeling so out oftouch with our center, let's
say, and anxiety is taking over our bodies aside from nature,
Like what if we're not in natureor somewhere else?
Like, what else can we do to ground ourselves?
Like I know what I can do as an artist, but like I would love to
hear some ideas from you. My exact question too.
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So let me just TuneIn to what wants to come through for that.
I think that two things, I mean,there's lots of things we can do
and I'd love to hear what you guys do, but some things that
came through is 1 like grounding.
Practices so having. Some what I call energetic
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hygiene. So understanding that we as a
system are not just our physicalform and our active mind, but we
also are this the spirit and energy.
And so we do want to bring that energy down into our bodies and
we can do short meditations where we can imagine energy.
I really often guide people to imagine their energy in their
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pelvis. So you have, you know, you can
even look at the anatomy and seethat you have your pelvic bowl
and you can imagine sort of the orb of light in that pelvic bowl
and you can draw all of your energy in and down to that orb
of light in your pelvic bowl. And then you can extend a cord
from that to the earth below you.
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And so just allowing your energyto come down into your body and
down into the earth and really feel that plug into the earth is
a really, really beautiful practice.
So yes, it's nice to ground. Like you can put your feet on
the earth and you can, you know,walk in nature And those are
very grounding too. But I really like to
energetically ground. It's a really foundational
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practice that I run through withpeople.
I think especially if you are tuning in or if you're an
intuitive, I think a lot of people who are creatives and in
your world will be very energetically sensitive and
intuitive. And so often that also makes us
a little bit prone to having ourenergy up here because it's like
our third chakras open information is coming in.
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So we're like up here and it's exciting sometimes and we can
get downloads and that's really great.
But we want to balance that and that that's very helpful for our
systems. It's a nice like energetic
balancing and it's also really, really nice for the nervous
system. It feels really safe and it
feels really held when it's grounded.
I've never thought to ground like that.
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Like I always ground through my feet and I think of grounding as
obviously that type of grounding.
And I've been told when I've hadlike my aura read all of that,
that, you know, my aura was like6 feet above my head and I
needed to ground and to me that's what it looked like.
I never like. I'm curious as to why the pelvis
is. It's the center right of our
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bodies. I guess, I guess and the.
Bottom and the bottom part. Yeah, you can definitely ground
through your legs. Like that's not wrong.
So if it works for you and it feels good, then go with it.
But you know, that's cool. The chakra, the chakra center is
like as Joe was saying, it really is like from head to the
base of your pelvis. So there is that base chakra at
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the bottom right at the perennium and then in our kind
of womb. Space for us?
Female folks is also such a powerful center, so I like to
incorporate both of those and and draw the energy in and down
from there. That's really.
That's really cool. Yeah.
And then that can really be usedby a lot of people in the arts,
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you know, because we all get anxious when we're about to
perform, audition, pitch, whatever that might be, which a
lot of us are on the spot a lot of the time.
And so doing a practice like that, I feel like that's really
going to help me. And I hope it helps others.
And the other thing, and I don'tknow if this was just coming
through for you, Joe, because you're mentioning water, but
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another practice, it's not really a practice.
It's like a self-care thing. Water.
So bathing with salt. So I put, I, I make one of my
teachers has a practice of ritual baths.
And so I really took that on from her.
But making your bath sort of like a potion for yourself or
whatever you need. So that could just be a warm
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bath with some Epsom salts. And that is phenomenal.
But the salts themselves are very clarifying for the
energetic field and they're alsovery grounding.
So it's really nice if you're working with a lot of people,
which you guys are, you're around tons of people all the
time. Getting into a bath with salt in
it can be just like really clearing and sort of help you
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disconnect from like the energies that you might be
carrying from the day and also super, super grounding.
And then if you're using Epsom salts, you get that nice
magnesium absorption, which is just so good for our.
I'm obsessed with Epsom. Salts.
Yeah, I like to do that. I read somewhere that salt like,
heals everything, right? Salt water, but also your tears,
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like whatever salt that might be, it like heals you.
So like, yeah, I love that. Salt is definitely a healer.
Yeah. And you can make it like kind of
fancy, like if you are having a lot of anxiety putting lavender
and or like choosing a plant or a central oil or a crystal.
And you can be very intuitive and just make it this beautiful.
Yeah, self-care ritual that can be really lovely and fast if you
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don't need to like go and get anything fancy that you don't
have. Yeah, I love that.
Amazing. Yeah, amazing.
OK, Charles. OK, so something we talk about a
lot is being too big and too much and not letting fear take
over. Yeah.
I mean, I guess if we're talkingabout all of that stuff, like I
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think opening up your chakra is really important and I don't
know if you have any practices for that, but what is your take
on on those types of fears or rituals?
Do you feel that way? I have dealt with being too much
and also not enough at the same time.
But yeah, yeah, I. Can relate to that something.
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Within me they're like. You're yanking.
You're. Yank.
Totally. You do like, I mean, even in
your practice, like, you know, it's something I think whether
you're creative or not, like be as females definitely come up
against that all the time. Yeah, yeah.
I mean, I feel like feeling too big is or the too much is really
related again to that people pleasing good girl tendency of
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just wanting to be safe and wanting to be accepted and not
wanting to, you know, push boundaries where someone might
say, oh God, I am too much. We just want that we all have
this innate desire to belong, tohave love, to be accepted by the
tribe. You know, that is the essential
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positioning of our basic nervoussystem.
You know, it's going to help direct us to belonging and
safety. And so when we feel like we're
too much, I think that that is an indication where, wow, that
too muchness is actually your medicine.
That's actually your spark. That's actually the thing that
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is probably the unique thing that we all need.
You know, I've been feeling likeall of this stuff that I'm
talking about right now is too much.
Even when I started talking justnow about like, you know, the
energetics, I was like, oh, I wasn't like planning on going
like too deep into energetic hydrogen.
Like, is this too much you? Know I love.
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It right, but that's like but that's what I am working on
getting comfortable putting out and I think that and that's
what's unique and what I've I guess I've been fighting with my
own too muchness for so many years, and so that's why I see
that because I've looked back somany times where I thought wow,
like I remember when I was wanting to put more of this out
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there eight years ago or six years ago, and there's been so
many times where I stopped myself because it felt like it
was too much or it felt like I wouldn't be afforded or it felt
like it wouldn't land. So I actually feel like the work
is recognizing again, that that is probably your unique
signature that you want to put out into the world and that the
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world needs. Because if it's too much, if it
feels like it's too much, it's probably unique, it's probably
different. It's probably 100% your your
thing. Your voice, that's.
What it is, Yeah. It's your essence, right?
And it's the truth. It's just it's afraid.
It's like a wall. We have to push through it and
just keep pushing. And then and something I was
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just like reviewing a little bitof our conversation, Chelsea,
before we came on in preparationand something that came through
for your audience was the Soul Transmission is magnetic.
And that felt like, you know, I think that that really is what
we're talking about overall. It's like we so many people in
your field want to have that magnetic quality, but if you're
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not willing to be a little bit too much or to be different or
to show up with your that essence, yeah, then it's not
going to really be magnetic. No, you're boring like normal is
boring, I remember my mom telling me.
You're just a basic bitch. Yeah, yeah.
And. If there are basic.
Bitches listening. There's nothing wrong with that.
No, as an artist, as a creative person, like you really do have
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to tune into your center as you've talked about.
As artists, we really need to know ourselves inside and out
and not be afraid of who we really are.
And for a lot of people, it's just like getting to know
yourself better and better through the years.
And you know, for me, at this point in my life, like, I don't
really give a shit what people think anymore.
It's like, OK, you know, here I am, take me or leave me.
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You don't like me? Whatever.
Yeah. Moving on, you know?
And so that's kind of like, it'ssuch a freaking thing, but it's
taken years to get here. So it's like, how can we help
those people that aren't here yet get here so they can feel
free too? Yeah.
I think a lot of times it's about awareness first.
Like it, I feel like a broken record on that, but it's you
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have to figure out that that is the thing that's going on in
your system. And then you have to be, you
have to do the thing that makes you a little bit uncomfortable.
You have to push yourself out there and and you know, in the
somatic world, call it titration, like you don't want
to just go crazy and be like, OK, I'm going to do a 360
because then all your parts are going to go crazy and, and react
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away again. So it's like, oh, what can I do
to like open up that that throator, or speak my truth in a way
that might feel safe. So maybe I'm like opening up and
bring with a good friend the thesecret that I really want to do.
Or maybe I'm just like step by step by step you do the thing so
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you can grow that that safety inthat capacity.
And then I think it's also that constant recognition, like you
were saying, Joe, it's like I live with the imposter syndrome
every day while you live with, you know, that tendency towards
that, that people pleasing part or that good girl part every
day. And you see her and you see her
tendency and you're like, I'm going to choose differently.
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And eventually she just kind of calms down.
Yeah, it's like the it's like the devil on your shoulder.
They say, like in acting school,you know, like you're always
going to have the devil say you can't do it.
You just have to learn how to shut that voice up and just tell
them to shut the hell up and like, just like, play it.
Yeah, see you later. Like, we're going to do this.
And yeah. Yeah, absolutely.
Yeah, but it but it is, it is different when you're stepping
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into a new field because there is so much unknown.
There is no guarantee, there's no certainty.
I mean, it is whatever you're stepping into, it's such a risk.
It's the risk of failure, the fear of failure or not
acceptance. I mean, that's it.
It takes brave people to do that.
But I think that we're all capable of it.
Yeah. And I think what's important,
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you know, what comes up for me is intuition.
So when you are in your center, your intuition is much more
aligned. So then when you're not just
like, OK, screw you, good girl, I'm going to do the thing.
And then you're sort of you are too much in a moment.
You know, some maybe you can't handle that.
Maybe you do need help. Maybe you'd need to learn a
task. So it's like when you are in
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your center, then you can also navigate step by step and being
like, OK, this is like, it's notme being too much.
I actually need help here. Or maybe I'll need a resource or
maybe I need a coach for this orwhatever it is.
So it's not either or, it's it'sbeing able to like, intuitively
navigate. That's huge.
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Yeah, that's, that's definitely huge knowing when to call in for
help. And, and we talked a lot about
community and sisterhood. And I think that's a really, you
know, important conversation as well, because there's only so
much that we can do ourselves. And not having the fear of
reaching out to other people forhelp is, I think, a really
other, another really big thing.Absolutely like reaching out to
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you or you know, to any anybody that wherever you're kind of at
a loss. It's really, really.
People who calm your nervous system, who are, you know,
supportive, obviously, I mean, you have to know where to find
your people as well. Which which kind of leads us
into the sisterhood a little bit, right?
Like, you know, you coming here,it's part of like our sisters
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and our sisterhood of, of learning about who we are and
trying to push the boundaries and be better people,
understanding ourselves and all of that.
So what does that mean to you? Like, what does it mean to have
kind of a community of of folks around you in your world?
Yeah, it's, it's evolving for mefor sure.
It's, it's a, it's an actively evolving thing for me.
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And I think it's so essential. And I think that that we're
really at a moment right now where women are stepping forward
in such a powerful way as you guys are showing here to support
one another. And that's what I'm really,
really excited about where I think we're really moving past
this cultural, this time in our society and in our culture where
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there was a lot of competition between women and I think that
there was an unconscious sort oftakedown or or you know, that
catfight sort of like it all. Goes back to Brandy and Monica,
the boys mind. I didn't even realize how, Yeah,
there are so many sick things about the not around us.
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Yeah, around us as we were, as we were growing up.
And so I think that it's a really exciting time where I've
been having amazing conversations with women in
different fields where people are excited to lift each other
up. And I think that that is what
sisterhood, like a mature sisterhood is really about, is
about being really excited aboutother people's projects and
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really excited to say, like, oh,you're doing this thing, I want
to support you and I'm doing this thing and I need your
support, you know, asking for that help too, and being, and
having that relationship or thatthere's that safety and, and
that network where people want to show up for one another.
And I think it's a really, really powerful.
It's going to be a really. Very powerful force in the
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world. Yes, yeah, I agree.
We are no stranger to children, so that is just fine.
OK. Is there anything that you think
that we could do? You want to walk us through like
a couple minutes, like a quick thing before we say goodbye?
Yeah, absolutely. So, yeah, so I will say that,
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you know, what I'm talking abouthere is very like at home, what
happens in sections with me can be a little Wilder because.
Because I'd love to, yeah, so much can shift and move.
But I think that everything we talked about here is really the
foundational work that if you doon your own at home, it's going
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to be super powerful. I can lead us through a few
minutes of a guided meditation, which can include some grounding
and centering or anyone listening.
Don't do this while you're driving a car.
Pull over. Pull over.
OK, so if you're comfortable, you can close your eyes.
If it takes a few moments for you to feel comfortable going
inward right away, you can just look at a few objects around you
(41:38):
and your surrounding environmentto just tune into the here and
now. And for anyone listening, I also
want to honor that if something doesn't feel good for you.
Everything that I say is an option for you to do is an
invitation, but just go with what feels right for you.
So with your eyes closed, starting to bring your breath in
(42:00):
and out through the nose, imagining the breath coming down
in and around the heart space. And as you breathe out, just
imagining clearing the heart space, bringing nutrition and
vitality into the heart space asyou breathe in and letting go of
any dense energy that is no longer needed on the way out.
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And then I'll switch your focus,if you feel ready, to that area
in the pelvis we were talking about earlier.
Imagining a red, orange, golden orb of light floating in the
center of your pelvis and takinga moment to imagine the
energetic tendrils that might beconnected to, to do lists, to
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conversations, interactions, stresses, projects, your social
media feed, your emails. Imagine how your energy is
connected to all of these things, and I just want you to
allow your energy to disconnect for this moment in time and
bring that energy in and down into that orb of light in the
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center of your pelvis, hauling all parts of you back in and
down. You might even feel to shift
something visceral as you call all parts of you back.
And when that feels complete, you can reconnect with that orb
of light. Feel how you're more in your
body, feeling your bum on your chair, maybe your feet on the
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ground or tucked underneath you.And now you can imagine some
energy from this orb of light hobbling down through the area
of your body, touching your seatand flowing down through the
floorboards of your building andinto the earth below you.
Allowing this energy to flow down through layers of soil and
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silt and sand and rock, past communities of roots of plants,
in underground networks of animal homes, micellial
networks, salt, stone, underground waterways.
You could imagine your energy flowing wider and deeper, like
your own root system of a tree grounding you down into the
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earth. Taking a few moments to feel
that connection, taking a few breaths here.
And when you feel rooted and grounded, you can bring your
energy, sorry, your attention back up to the center of your
chest and look deeply within your chest, deeper than your
heart space deep within the center of yourself, and find
your light. It might be a flame, it might be
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a glow, it might be a felt senseof an essence and allow that to
expand and grow as you tune intoit.
Perhaps it grows just a little bit brighter, but you might also
feel it expanding with a warmth across your chest, maybe into
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your shoulders and down into your belly, maybe down into your
pelvis, up into your face, maybeeven expanding out into your
energetic fields. And feel how when we tune into
this essence of your light and when it's expanding into your
field, you might notice a clearing or releasing of other
(45:26):
energies that are old, that no longer serve you, that are no
longer aligned with your highesttimeline.
Allow that to occur. Allow me to transmit this
blessing to you and your fields.And when you feel ready, you can
come back. Wow.
That was amazing. That was amazing.
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We're going to have to like separate that and leave it as a
guided meditation. That was incredible.
That was that's my gift. Thank you.
Thank you for that gift. That was.
Thank you. Thank you so much.
You've taken up way too much of your time.
It's so amazing having you on the podcast and listening to
your insights and your wonderfulenergy.
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So where can people find you andwhat can we look forward to
seeing you do in the? Yes, I'm so excited.
As I was saying, I'm expanding. I really feel like it's an
important time where we all needto be tuning into our soul.
A big part of what I'm going to be talking about a lot is just
there's so many changes coming in the world with AI and
(46:37):
technology making our lives feelso much more anxious,
overwhelming. And so I feel like it's, as I
said, really time for me to stepforward and help people tune
into themselves in this way. So I have my mailing list, which
is really the place to come because there's so much to
that's going to be happening in my world.
So if I will give you guys the link that people can get on my
(47:01):
mailing list. And if you join my mailing list,
there will be a nice little sequence of emails that will
come to you that will offer you different exercises and guided
meditations similar to what we just did and different
exercises. So join my mailing list.
Instagram is the Mystic medicineand that's my website as well,
(47:25):
www.themysticmedicine.com. You can find my booking links
and all of that there. And I'm so excited to work with
more intuitive, creative people,so.
We love it. Yes, myself.
Thank you so much here Doctor Alex online if you feel
inspired, listener, if you feel excited, energized, go follow
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her on socials and join her mailing list.
I know I will D get on the list.We all need a little more
grounding. Grounding and.
Centering got to do it. Yeah.
Thank you so much, it was lovely, lovely to have you.
My absolute pleasure, I love what you guys are doing.
Thanks for putting it out there.Thank you.
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Thank you. Bye.
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