November 9, 2025 • 26 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
Dragnet the documented drama of an actual crime well the
next thirty minutes in cooperation with the Los Angeles Police Department.
If you will travel step by step on the side
of the law through an actual case transcribed from official.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Police violence, from.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
Beginning to end, from crime to punishment, Dragnet is the
story of your police force in action.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
It was Wednesday, February tenth. It was cold in Los Angeles.
We were working the day Watch out of Juvenile Details.
My partner's Frank Smith. The boss is cap'n Powers. My
name's Friday. I was on my way into the office
and it was eight oh one am when I got
to Georgia Street Juvenile Squadron.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Hi, right, well, well what do you think? How about
what rude? What do you think?
Speaker 4 (00:55):
Well? She's nice? Sure?
Speaker 2 (00:57):
Is that all you got to say?
Speaker 4 (00:58):
Well, what do you want me to say?
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Did you like her?
Speaker 4 (01:01):
She's a nice girl?
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Yeah, you got another date with her?
Speaker 4 (01:04):
No.
Speaker 5 (01:04):
I told her I'd call her sometimes, He said, you'd
call her, just say when.
Speaker 4 (01:09):
No, I just said sometimes sometimes.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
I Oh, Fay's not gonna like it.
Speaker 5 (01:15):
Why she's just not Joe, I'm not sure we had
it this time.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
Well, look, Frank, I think it's real nice of you
and Faie to be concerned. I don't think that I
don't appreciate it. But when you asked me over the
last night, I figured we're just gonna have dinner and
sit around and talk.
Speaker 4 (01:27):
I didn't know anything.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
About this girl going to be there, But you think
you should have told me. Let me know, Joe, you
like girls, don't you?
Speaker 4 (01:35):
Well? Of course I like girls.
Speaker 5 (01:38):
We couldn't have done that, you know, would have loused
the whole thing up. If we told you ahead of time.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
We would just wanted you to meet her. Got the
full effect, bang like that.
Speaker 4 (01:46):
You know, I got the full effect. I tried to
set it all up for you.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
See it's pretty, don't you say? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (01:51):
I guess so.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Blue eyes, red hair. I think she's real.
Speaker 5 (01:54):
Pretty, you know, saying me had a whole evening plan
fights from the time you do met.
Speaker 4 (01:59):
I kind of got that idea. What do you mean
when you're about as subtle.
Speaker 6 (02:03):
As a water buffalo?
Speaker 2 (02:04):
Now you tell me where we were obvious? Go ahead
and tell me, well.
Speaker 4 (02:08):
All right? First off, the music that album or records
of yours there? What's it called love music? Or whatever
it was?
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Mood for lovers.
Speaker 4 (02:15):
Yeah, I bought them specially. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (02:18):
And the flowers on the table.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
You've gotta have flowers. You gotta have something for the
center of the table.
Speaker 4 (02:22):
You must have gone a long way for those orange blossoms.
You had to have those. Well, Pha is not gonna
like it. Well, I'm very sorry about that. Train. Oh,
we're just trying to show you the advantages of getting married.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (02:35):
I appreciate you and faate trying, but let me do
it my way. Any mail this born?
Speaker 2 (02:40):
Huh?
Speaker 6 (02:41):
Any mail?
Speaker 2 (02:42):
Yeah, Skipper, put a note in your book.
Speaker 4 (02:44):
Okay, tickets for the police show.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
You gotta sell tickets.
Speaker 4 (02:54):
Huh yeah, so do you? Here's your book.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
You're not mad, are you, Joe?
Speaker 4 (03:03):
Oh Man. It's just that all the time people are
trying to be helpful, you know.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
Well, I kind of hate to say it behind her back.
Speaker 4 (03:11):
Hm, I say, I hate to say it behind her back.
But it was phase idea. I didn't have any part
in it. Yeah, phase idea, phase idea.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
And sure you're not sorry, No, I told you, man, Sure,
I'm sure.
Speaker 4 (03:25):
Frank you know he own groof what. Look, it wasn't
the fact that she was the redhead wasn't ridy. Yeah, yeah,
skip her sister run this down, k the what he got?
(03:52):
Think a look at this.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
Hm there, sir.
Speaker 4 (03:56):
I have some information for you about.
Speaker 5 (03:58):
A big dope ring. It's important I talked to you.
I'll reach you at the street car stop at seventh
and Broadway on the East Side after three forty five
pms in.
Speaker 4 (04:08):
Our afternoon Wednesday.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
That's today.
Speaker 4 (04:10):
Yeah, read the rest of it.
Speaker 5 (04:12):
I can't tell you my name now, but I'll be
wearing a green skirt and a plaid sweater. I'll be
standing right by the street car stop.
Speaker 4 (04:20):
What do you think.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (04:22):
No signature.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
You got ahing The envelope.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
You know, post marked LA addressed a Jeweil division. No
way of telling where it came from.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
I think it's from a crank.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
As one place we can find out, Yeah, seventh and Broadway.
The fact that the note had been addressed to jewnile
divisions instead of narcotics detail indicated that the person who
wrote it had some knowledge of the workings of the
police department.
Speaker 6 (04:48):
It also led us to believe that the writer was
a jeweler.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
We checked again with Captain Powers on the letter, and
it was decided that we would make the meat that afternoon.
Frank and I spent the rest of the morning going
over reports on the case that we just finished.
Speaker 6 (05:00):
At three fifteen pm.
Speaker 4 (05:01):
We left the office.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
Frank stopped the cart eighth and Broadway for a traffic signal,
and I got out and walked the remaining block. There
was no one at the street car stopped dressed in
a green skirt and a plaid sweater. While Frank circle
the block. I waited three forty pm, still no signs.
Speaker 4 (05:16):
At three point fifty two.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
A woman of about twenty three got off the street
car and waited on the corner.
Speaker 4 (05:20):
She was wearing a dark green soup with a plaid blouse.
Speaker 6 (05:23):
I waited for some indication that she might be.
Speaker 4 (05:24):
The person we were waiting for, but she gave none.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
Finally, she turned, walked across the street and disappeared into
the crowd.
Speaker 4 (05:31):
Four o'clock four fifteen.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
Still no sign of a letter writing. Four point thirty
quarter to.
Speaker 4 (05:36):
Five, Frank pulled into a loading zone near.
Speaker 6 (05:38):
The corner, and I went over to talk to him.
Speaker 4 (05:40):
What do you think, Well, I don't know. She's an
hour late now, uh huh noe must have been from
the crank.
Speaker 6 (05:45):
I guess so, well, come on, get in.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
We better go back to the office. Now, hey, wait
a minute, joke, but right there.
Speaker 4 (05:52):
Across the street. Oh yeah, matches the description.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
Let's beat her.
Speaker 3 (05:58):
Well, she's looking this way, I'll check it. She looked
about fifteen, brown hair and a thin young face. She
was carrying an armful of school books. She paused in
the corner and watched me. I walked up to her
and told her I was a police officer. She nodded
and then walked out to the safety zone and climbed
onto a waiting street car.
Speaker 4 (06:18):
I followed her.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
She walked to the back of the car and took
a seat. I sat down next to her. I could
see Frank following us in our car. We rode three
blocks before she spoke, I'm.
Speaker 7 (06:29):
Sorry I was late.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
I'm sorry.
Speaker 7 (06:31):
I usually try to be on time, maybe even a
little early. That's the way it should be, don't you think, Well,
what was it you wanted to talk about?
Speaker 4 (06:37):
Miss?
Speaker 7 (06:37):
I got hung up at school, couldn't get away when
I thought I would. Yeah, that's the reason.
Speaker 4 (06:41):
Late.
Speaker 6 (06:42):
We just said something in the note about a narcotics ring.
Speaker 7 (06:45):
How much am I gonna get involved in this?
Speaker 2 (06:47):
What do you mean?
Speaker 7 (06:48):
How deep am I gonna get? I don't want any
trouble myself. I'm doing this to help somebody, but I
don't want to get mixed up in it myself.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
Maybe you better tell me what it's all about first,
huh wait, and decide the rest of it later.
Speaker 7 (07:00):
That's why it has to be.
Speaker 4 (07:02):
Well, you called us, remember, yeah, I guess. So? What's
your name? Edna? Is your last name?
Speaker 7 (07:08):
That isn't gonna help any you don't need it.
Speaker 4 (07:11):
How old are you?
Speaker 7 (07:13):
Fifteen?
Speaker 6 (07:14):
All right?
Speaker 4 (07:14):
What about this dope ring?
Speaker 7 (07:16):
I wanna tell you about it. A friend of mine
is in pretty deep. I think she's hooked bad. I
wanna help her.
Speaker 4 (07:22):
What's your friend's name?
Speaker 7 (07:25):
You have to have that?
Speaker 6 (07:26):
Well, we're not gonna be able to do.
Speaker 4 (07:27):
Very much without it, are we, Catherine?
Speaker 7 (07:31):
I can't give you a last name. I can't.
Speaker 6 (07:33):
How old is she?
Speaker 7 (07:34):
Fifteen?
Speaker 4 (07:35):
All right?
Speaker 2 (07:36):
Now?
Speaker 4 (07:36):
What makes you think she's using narcotics?
Speaker 7 (07:38):
I just know that's all.
Speaker 6 (07:38):
Well, it's a pretty serious charge.
Speaker 4 (07:40):
You must have some reason for saying it's got a reason.
Speaker 7 (07:42):
I've got good reasons. Do you think i'd go to
the crops if I didn't have you think bad?
Speaker 4 (07:46):
What kind of narcotics do you think she's using? Harold?
You know that for sure, do you? Yeah?
Speaker 7 (07:50):
I've seen her take a fix.
Speaker 4 (07:52):
Where where'd she take the fix?
Speaker 7 (07:54):
I've seen her do it in her room at home
place in near school of a Lewis apartments. Louis Lewis Compton.
He got Katherine hooked. He's the one I wanna see.
Speaker 4 (08:05):
You get Hall's he Well, I don't know.
Speaker 7 (08:07):
I think around twenty twenty one.
Speaker 4 (08:09):
Where'd you meet him?
Speaker 7 (08:10):
Down at bal Bol last summer? Katherine and he went
down for a week. We met him then Lewis and Vince.
Speaker 6 (08:15):
You know this Vince's last name?
Speaker 7 (08:17):
I think it's Bill b e l.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
I guess, sir, Well these two boys are they supplying
Katherine with a heroin?
Speaker 7 (08:24):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (08:24):
They got it for how'd you happen to meet him?
Speaker 7 (08:27):
First day we were down at Balbol, we went down
to the beach. We saw him. Then we didn't talk
to him right off, Not the first day. Uh, the
next day they came over to where we were then
laid down on the beach. They had a portable radio
and they were playing it loud. They were playing at
real loud.
Speaker 4 (08:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (08:44):
Well, Lewis asked us if they had the radio on
too loud, and he said no.
Speaker 4 (08:49):
Then we got to talking, all right, go ahead.
Speaker 7 (08:53):
We found out that they knew a lot of the
kids that go to our school, so we talked about them.
We talked and listened to the radio.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
Yeah, were either your or Katherine's parents with you?
Speaker 7 (09:04):
No, Katherine's father's got a friend, Elizabeth Balbo, all the
time we were staying with her.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
All right, go ahead.
Speaker 7 (09:11):
After we knew him a week, one night, they suggested
that we'd go for a ride down the coast towards
San Diego. No, they'd never given us any trouble, so
Katherine and me talked it over and decided to go.
They'd never gotten fresh or anything, so we thought it'd
be all right. We drove down the beach and then
we stopped. Boys had some beer in the car, and
(09:31):
we drank some of it, just a little. We didn't
think it would hurt, just a little, all right. I
guess we drank more than we thought because we both
got a little drunk. First time I ever got drunk.
All I wanted to do was go home and go
to sleep. That's all I wanted to do. I didn't
feel good. I remember that I didn't feel good.
Speaker 4 (09:50):
Go ahead.
Speaker 7 (09:52):
I got out of the car and I walked around
for a while. After I walked, I felt better and
I went back to the car. Katherine and the two
boys were smoking, and I could smell it when I
got in the car. Real sweet sick me. Marijuana, Yeah,
then asked me if I wanted some. Told him I didn't.
They all laughed again, said I was just a little kid,
called me chicken.
Speaker 4 (10:12):
So I did you smoked the marijuana?
Speaker 7 (10:14):
Didn't, Yeah, but not very much. Got sick again, and
I threw the stick away. That made Vince sore because
I hadn't smoked very much. He got out of the
car and found it was left of a cigarette and
put it in a box he had. Then he got
in the car and the three of 'em all drank
some more of the beer and smoked the rest of
the marijuana. They were all laughing and yelling.
Speaker 4 (10:34):
Katherine was smoking too.
Speaker 7 (10:35):
Yes, she was having a great time laughing it up.
Seems like everything that happened was just about the funniest
thing she ever heard. They were all laughing and telling
me what a square I was. Finally I couldn't stand
it anymore, so I said, if they wouldn't take me home,
i'd walked.
Speaker 4 (10:50):
And what'd they say to that.
Speaker 7 (10:52):
Told me to go ahead? Said I was a drag anyway,
and they'd be glad to get rid of me.
Speaker 4 (10:56):
He left.
Speaker 7 (10:56):
Then, Yeah, I tried to get Catherine to go with me.
She said she was having too good a time. She
wasn't leaving. She told me to go home and to
expect her when she walked in. Yep, So I left,
got out of the car and walked up the highway.
Was gonna catch her ride back to town. Pretty scared,
but I wanted to get back. I didn't feel very good.
(11:17):
I waited for the car, but the ones that went
by wouldn't stop. Then Vincent Lewis and Kathern came by.
They told me to get into the car and we
drove home. I had to wait out in front with
Catherine until she sobered up. Said she was too drunk
to go into the house.
Speaker 4 (11:31):
What time did you get home?
Speaker 7 (11:32):
Oh, it must have been three or three thirty.
Speaker 4 (11:36):
To see Vincent Lewis again.
Speaker 7 (11:37):
Well, I didn't, but Catherine did. Every night we were there,
she went out with him I didn't want to have
anything more to do with him. She told me if
I said anything that the people we were staying with,
she'd caused me a lot of trouble. I like Catherine,
she's my best friend. I didn't want to see her
get into any trouble. Thought when we left Balboa, she'd
quit seeing the Fellers, That's what I she'd stop seeing him,
(12:02):
did she no? When the school started again, she was
still going with Lewis. I'd see her around the school,
but she wouldn't have anything to do with me, said
I was a cube, talking all the time about how
she didn't know they grew corners like me anymore.
Speaker 4 (12:16):
How'd you find out she was on Heroin?
Speaker 7 (12:18):
One day? I saw her take a pop. She was
at her house, and I came over to talk to her.
She was pretty sick and she went into her room.
I went in after her to see if I could help,
and I saw her taking a fix. After that, I
didn't see much of her. I guess she didn't want
me around knowing she was hooked. When was all this
about two months ago. I've seen her a couple of
times since. She looks real bad.
Speaker 6 (12:40):
Her parents know anything about the narcotics.
Speaker 7 (12:42):
I don't know. There's just her father. I don't think
he cares much. If he does, he's not doing anything
about it. I'm just telling you all this so you'll
get Lewis and Vince. They're the ones who started her.
They're seeing that she gets the aide.
Speaker 4 (12:55):
M you know where we can find him?
Speaker 7 (12:57):
Yeah, Lewis has a little apartment over in the west Lake.
Speaker 6 (13:00):
You know the address?
Speaker 7 (13:01):
No, but I can show you where it is, all right.
I just want to see you get them, get them good.
She was my best friend. But you won't have anything
to do with me nothing.
Speaker 4 (13:11):
I may wait and straighten it out.
Speaker 7 (13:13):
What do you want to do now.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
Well, first we better get off the street car h
end of the line. Edna and I got off the
street car and Frank picked us up. We stopped at
a drug store and put in a call to the
office requesting that a policewoman be sent out to take
the girl into custody. Ten minutes later, off Sir Irene
Gardner arrived and the four of us drove over to
(13:35):
the Westlake area. The young girl pointed out the building
where she told us that Vince Beale and Lewis Conslin lanked.
She gave us a description of the two suspects, and finally,
after miss Gardner had talked to her, she also gave
us the full name of her.
Speaker 6 (13:46):
Friend, Katherine Pilgrim.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
We checked at the building and found that the two
suspects occupied apartment four G. Frank and I talked to
the manager of the place, but she told us that
the pair weren't in and that she didn't know when
they'd be back. She returned to the told Officer Gardener
to take it into Georgia Street, Juvenile and.
Speaker 6 (14:02):
Holder until we could get there. After that, Frank called
the office and ran the names Vincent Viale and Lewis Conflor.
Speaker 4 (14:08):
Through R and I.
Speaker 3 (14:10):
They both had misdemeanor records in California, and Veal had
served time in the county jail for possession of narcotics.
We called Captain Powers and told him what had happened,
and then we returned to the apartment and set up
a surveillance. At seven twenty five pm, we heard someone
coming down the hall.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
Don't worry about it. Things. Who are you throwing me?
All right?
Speaker 4 (14:32):
I'm sick, I know I'll make a call, get you
fixed up.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
This comment hold it right there, police officers, Hey, what
are you doing in here?
Speaker 8 (14:38):
You got no right to break in like this?
Speaker 4 (14:39):
What's this all about?
Speaker 2 (14:41):
Hold it out? Miscog?
Speaker 7 (14:42):
How do you know who I am?
Speaker 4 (14:44):
What are you gonna?
Speaker 8 (14:44):
Don't say anything?
Speaker 4 (14:45):
Kathy? You don't tell him nothing to turn around to deal?
What for?
Speaker 8 (14:48):
Will you shove me around?
Speaker 2 (14:49):
Around? He turn around?
Speaker 6 (14:49):
I'll shake them John, stay, you won't find nothing.
Speaker 4 (14:53):
Cop, I'm clean.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
I call him nothing. Where's conflin?
Speaker 8 (14:56):
You got to figure it's so good?
Speaker 4 (14:58):
You'd tell me? But I watch that mouth kiit is
gonna get in the trouble. You tell me all about it?
Speaker 8 (15:02):
Cop, I got no problem. What are you taking this
in on?
Speaker 4 (15:05):
What's a chart?
Speaker 3 (15:06):
Violation of the Narcotics Act and contributing?
Speaker 4 (15:08):
Yeah, you didn't find anything on me.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
You didn't find anything in the pad.
Speaker 4 (15:11):
You've been on a spike, cop, and you know I
Why didn't you run along?
Speaker 8 (15:14):
And I'll forget all about.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
You being all right?
Speaker 4 (15:15):
Let's go. Where are you taking downtown to Ja? You
call my phone? That's right?
Speaker 7 (15:20):
Well, he won't tell you this, and you won't tell
you get my shut Why I got nothing to hide?
I'm not a HiPE. You ask my father.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
Let me see your arms. Deal huh your sleeves, roll
them up? Come on quick here, where'd you.
Speaker 6 (15:31):
Get those marks?
Speaker 4 (15:33):
You tell me you see your arms, Miss Pilgrim.
Speaker 7 (15:35):
It's not gonna prove anything, not a.
Speaker 4 (15:37):
You see him. Go ahead, honey, if you don't go
along with him to bring out the rubber hose.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
Somebody messed with you a long time ago.
Speaker 4 (15:42):
Come on, miss Pilgrim, let see your arms.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
Well, all right here, how about it, Joe think away? Yeah,
fresh needle marks. We called not Division and asked them
to come out and go over the room and an
attempt to find a trace of narcotics. We put in
a call to the office and Irene.
Speaker 4 (16:05):
Gardner came out and took the Pilgrim girl in the custody.
The steakhout was set up on the apartment to app
for him.
Speaker 3 (16:10):
The other suspect, Lewis Conklin, Frank and I took Vince
Bial to the office and questioned him for over an hour,
but he failed to come up with his sources of
supply for the heroin. He was turned over to officers
from Narcotics Detail and booked in at the main jail
and suspicion of violation of the State Narcotic Act, a felony.
The call had been put into the father of Catherine Pilgrim,
and at nine thirty seven pm he arrived at the office.
Speaker 8 (16:33):
Friday and Smith.
Speaker 4 (16:33):
Where. My name's Friday. What can I do for you?
Speaker 8 (16:36):
I'm Robert Pilgrim. I want my daughter.
Speaker 4 (16:38):
She's downstairs right now. A doctor's taking care of me.
Speaker 6 (16:40):
But pour, well, she's pretty sick.
Speaker 4 (16:42):
Mister Pilgrim, sick.
Speaker 8 (16:43):
What's the matter.
Speaker 9 (16:44):
You've gotten a right to give her any kind of
medication without my approval.
Speaker 4 (16:47):
We couldn't reach you.
Speaker 3 (16:48):
How hard did you try? And called your at home
and your place of business. We got no answer. Our
doctor thought it was best to give the girl something
right away.
Speaker 8 (16:54):
What's wrong with it? What are you doing to it?
Speaker 4 (16:56):
Your daughter's a narcotic addict, mister Pilgrim.
Speaker 8 (16:57):
That is a lie. Now you get up here right now.
You hear me.
Speaker 9 (17:01):
You get on that phone and have I brought this
office right now?
Speaker 8 (17:03):
I'm taking a home.
Speaker 4 (17:04):
Afraid we can't do that.
Speaker 8 (17:05):
Well, you to tell me what's gonna happen. I pay
you a salary officer. Don't forget it.
Speaker 9 (17:09):
If you don't get on that phone and have my
daughter brought up here right now. I'll make some calls
and you'll be pounding the beat out in the tooleys.
I've got a lot of friends in.
Speaker 4 (17:15):
This town, and you've got a daughter who's hooked bad.
Speaker 8 (17:18):
As she told you that.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
No, sir, put all the test point that way. She's
got needle marks all up and.
Speaker 4 (17:22):
Down on iron.
Speaker 9 (17:22):
Well, you better get out and find a lawyer fast,
because I'm gonna pull that ten bags right off.
Speaker 8 (17:26):
That's so, you bet it is?
Speaker 4 (17:28):
How do I get a line down?
Speaker 8 (17:41):
Hello, Jackie?
Speaker 4 (17:41):
Is Bob Pilgrim?
Speaker 8 (17:42):
I'm down at the police station.
Speaker 9 (17:45):
Yeah, Kathy's here. The cop says, she's a hophead. I
want you to tell him here, you talk to.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
Him, Yes, sir, who am I speaking with? Yes, sir,
Well we did find hypodermic marks.
Speaker 4 (18:05):
I see all right. Sure, we'll be checking with you.
Speaker 8 (18:10):
Now, you'll get my daughter.
Speaker 3 (18:11):
I'll ever sent right up. I want to come out
to the hall. Frank, Yeah, would be called as a
family doctor.
Speaker 4 (18:24):
He might not have a case here.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
What's the matter all?
Speaker 3 (18:27):
The doctor says he's been treating the girl for the
past six months. Yeah, been giving her hypodermic injections. With
a doctor's statement, there was nothing we could do but
release the girl to her father, pending for their investigation.
Speaker 6 (18:45):
The parents of the teenager.
Speaker 3 (18:46):
Who had written us the first letter, came to the
office and she was released to them. At eleven forty
pm that night, we got word that the other suspect
had returned to the apartment and had been taken into custody.
It was identified as Lewis Conklin, aged twenty three, was
taken to.
Speaker 4 (19:00):
The main jail and looked on the same.
Speaker 6 (19:02):
Charges as Vincent Veald.
Speaker 3 (19:04):
Their apartment was gone over, but no trace in narcotics
was found. We questioned both suspects again, but they failed
to cooperate with us.
Speaker 4 (19:11):
Frank and I checked out of the office and went home.
The following morning, we drove.
Speaker 3 (19:15):
Out to see the doctor who had told me he
was treating the pilgrim girl. He said the girl was
underweight and highly nervous, and that he had been giving
her vitamin injection, who went on to say that he'd
stopped treating her five months previous at her father's request,
and that he had not seen the girl since then.
February eleventh, ten twenty four am, we checked the car
belonging to Vincent Veal.
Speaker 6 (19:35):
In the trunk we found an.
Speaker 3 (19:36):
Expensive leather jacket that looked too expensive to be worn
by a man who had the reputation of never holding
a job.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
We took the jacket over to the crime lab and.
Speaker 4 (19:44):
Had a check from a cleaning tag.
Speaker 6 (19:46):
We got the name of the cleaner who'd serviced the jacket.
Speaker 3 (19:49):
We contacted him and he remembered the jacket as having
been among several stolen from his store. With this information,
we went back to the main jail and had the
conflent boy brought from his cell.
Speaker 6 (19:58):
He told us that the jacket.
Speaker 4 (19:59):
Belonged to Vincent Beale, who was brought into the interview room.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
This leather jacket belonged to Evince.
Speaker 4 (20:05):
No, I never saw it before, Conklin says, it's yours.
Speaker 6 (20:08):
I don't know, maybe it is.
Speaker 8 (20:09):
What difference does it make?
Speaker 2 (20:10):
Take a look?
Speaker 4 (20:11):
We want to know.
Speaker 6 (20:13):
Yeah, yeah, mind, where'd you get it?
Speaker 8 (20:16):
Where do you think I bought it?
Speaker 4 (20:17):
You know someplace you can get these without buying them?
Speaker 6 (20:19):
Yeah, the same place you picked this one up.
Speaker 4 (20:21):
So what's that supposed to mean?
Speaker 2 (20:22):
You know a man named Ted Hartman who Ted Hartman.
Speaker 5 (20:26):
Ted Hartman never heard him.
Speaker 4 (20:27):
He knows you.
Speaker 8 (20:28):
Maybe he's got a better memory than me.
Speaker 4 (20:30):
He says he used to work for him. Yeah right, yeah,
how about it?
Speaker 2 (20:34):
Maybe I did. I had a lot of jobs.
Speaker 4 (20:36):
A cleanner says, you worked for him a couple of
weeks last December.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
It's a long time ago.
Speaker 3 (20:40):
Says this jacket was stolen from him. But where do
I finky think she's stolen?
Speaker 8 (20:43):
He's crazy, He's.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
Sure enough to make a complaint.
Speaker 4 (20:46):
Laugh, am out of court. Conklin says, it's yours.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
I told you I bought it. Conklin wants no part
of a burglary rap?
Speaker 4 (20:54):
What Conklin tell you? Maybe we ought to get your
side of it.
Speaker 8 (20:57):
Huh, what did he tell you?
Speaker 4 (20:58):
I got to write to know.
Speaker 5 (21:00):
Look, he's gonna make a beef like that.
Speaker 8 (21:01):
I mean I got a right to know what he said.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
He wants no part of it.
Speaker 4 (21:03):
He lays it all on you. He's no good.
Speaker 7 (21:07):
I didn't figure for a guy I could trust.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
He did all right on the deal.
Speaker 4 (21:10):
Luke kept us both going, what do you mean I
thought he told you all about it?
Speaker 3 (21:15):
Well, we want to hear it from you. A lot
of time stories get all mixed up. Now we want
to get it right.
Speaker 4 (21:20):
Now.
Speaker 8 (21:20):
We knocked the place, but it was both of us.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
Lou was in on it all the way go ahead.
Speaker 9 (21:25):
When we were scratching for h we had a real bad
We needed some way out.
Speaker 8 (21:29):
I thought about the cleaning.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
Place, figured we could score good.
Speaker 4 (21:32):
But we did all right.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
Took care of three of us for a long time.
Speaker 4 (21:34):
You confident on the Pilgrim girls. It yeah, that's it.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
What were you shooting?
Speaker 4 (21:38):
Me and Luke kept it down the Pilgrim kids.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
She built up fast.
Speaker 4 (21:41):
She was using five caps a day.
Speaker 3 (21:44):
I should have listened to Louis kept telling me to
drop her leaver alone.
Speaker 4 (21:48):
There wasn't anything between us.
Speaker 6 (21:49):
It just for last and then all of a sudden
she was hooked bad.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
We had to do something.
Speaker 5 (21:53):
He stole her jacket so we could keep her supplied.
Speaker 8 (21:55):
Five caps a day and that's a lot of h.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
I tried to break her down. I tried to cut
her habit.
Speaker 8 (22:00):
I did what I could.
Speaker 6 (22:02):
You can see that catch.
Speaker 8 (22:03):
I did everything I could.
Speaker 4 (22:05):
How much was that?
Speaker 3 (22:11):
Five twenty three pm, Frank and I, along with the
policewoman iron guard and go out to.
Speaker 6 (22:15):
The Pilgrim residence.
Speaker 4 (22:16):
They went up to the front porch and rang the bell.
Speaker 8 (22:19):
Yeah, what do you want?
Speaker 4 (22:21):
Like to see your daughter?
Speaker 2 (22:22):
Now?
Speaker 8 (22:22):
You get out of here. You get out of here
right now. I've had enough of this shoving around from you.
It's about time you learned your place.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
It might be better if we came in.
Speaker 9 (22:29):
Anything you've got to say to me, you can say here.
I don't want any cops in my house.
Speaker 4 (22:32):
You want to get your daughter? What for? You're gonna
have to take it down to juvenile home.
Speaker 8 (22:37):
You guys, just don't give up. Do you you want
me to call my doctor again?
Speaker 4 (22:40):
We talked to him this afternoon.
Speaker 8 (22:41):
And you know the story. And I get out of here.
Speaker 6 (22:43):
Do you want to get your daughter?
Speaker 8 (22:44):
Look, I've got a gun inside. If you're still here
when I come back, I'm gonna go.
Speaker 6 (22:47):
You listen to me, mystery.
Speaker 4 (22:48):
You've been making like a big man long enough. You
can play the part of the outrage apparent with your family,
but don't try to.
Speaker 8 (22:53):
I'm not going to have you talk to me like that.
Speaker 3 (22:55):
Not much you can do about it. We've got the
boys been supplying your daughter with narcotics.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
It's pretty clear that this.
Speaker 4 (22:59):
Home is in the place for.
Speaker 8 (23:00):
She's a good girl. We didn't say she wasn't, And
why don't you leave her alone?
Speaker 4 (23:03):
You know better than that.
Speaker 8 (23:05):
You can do your boy some good downtown. I got
a lot of friends.
Speaker 4 (23:08):
You're gonna need them all right.
Speaker 9 (23:10):
You want to make a case out of this, I'll
fight you in every court in the country before I
let you take my daughter away from me.
Speaker 8 (23:14):
Now you just tried.
Speaker 4 (23:15):
Your daughter's a drug addict. She's sick. She's got to
be straightened out. She needs help.
Speaker 8 (23:19):
Who are you to set yourself up as a jury.
Speaker 4 (23:21):
You've got a fine girl in there.
Speaker 3 (23:22):
She got all the breaks except somebody who thinks enough
of her to stand by her.
Speaker 8 (23:25):
There isn't anything she wants she doesn't have.
Speaker 3 (23:26):
What about the things she needed? You let her run
all over the town by herself. She gets in trouble
and you won't take the time to care for What.
Speaker 8 (23:34):
About those two men who got her started? What are
you gonna do with them? They're guilty. If it hadn't
been for those two, this never would have happened.
Speaker 4 (23:39):
They'll be taken care of. You lay the blame any
place you want, mister, but if you're honest, you'll keep it.
Speaker 8 (23:45):
What's gonna happen to her.
Speaker 6 (23:46):
She'll be giving the medical attention.
Speaker 4 (23:47):
We'll do what we can.
Speaker 9 (23:49):
I can't afford to take care of her. I've got
the money. I'll hire the best people. I wanted to
have the best.
Speaker 8 (23:53):
Yeah, she's mine. I'm a father. I've got the right
to take care of her.
Speaker 4 (23:57):
Yes, sir, that's right. Hm, why didn't she?
Speaker 1 (24:09):
Vincent Norman Beale and Lewis Shelman Conklin were tried and
convicted of one count of burglary and additional charges of
violation of the State Narcotic Act of Colony and contributing
to the delinquency of a minor. They received sentences as
prescribed by law. Burglary is punishable by imprisonment for a
period of not less than five years in the state prison.
(24:29):
Catherine Lourene Pilgrim had a hearing in juvenile Court and
was made award of that court. You have just heard Dragnet,
the Authentic Story of your Police Force in Action and
starring Jack Webb, a presentation of the United States Armed
Forces Radio Service.
Speaker 10 (25:00):
Step step that s that's that's stopper set step that's
(25:51):
that's stoppiness.
Dragnet the documented drama of an actual crime well the
next thirty minutes in cooperation with the Los Angeles Police Department.
If you will travel step by step on the side
of the law through an actual case transcribed from official.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Police violence, from.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
Beginning to end, from crime to punishment, Dragnet is the
story of your police force in action.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
It was Wednesday, February tenth. It was cold in Los Angeles.
We were working the day Watch out of Juvenile Details.
My partner's Frank Smith. The boss is cap'n Powers. My
name's Friday. I was on my way into the office
and it was eight oh one am when I got
to Georgia Street Juvenile Squadron.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Hi, right, well, well what do you think? How about
what rude? What do you think?
Speaker 4 (00:55):
Well? She's nice? Sure?
Speaker 2 (00:57):
Is that all you got to say?
Speaker 4 (00:58):
Well, what do you want me to say?
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Did you like her?
Speaker 4 (01:01):
She's a nice girl?
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Yeah, you got another date with her?
Speaker 4 (01:04):
No.
Speaker 5 (01:04):
I told her I'd call her sometimes, He said, you'd
call her, just say when.
Speaker 4 (01:09):
No, I just said sometimes sometimes.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
I Oh, Fay's not gonna like it.
Speaker 5 (01:15):
Why she's just not Joe, I'm not sure we had
it this time.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
Well, look, Frank, I think it's real nice of you
and Faie to be concerned. I don't think that I
don't appreciate it. But when you asked me over the
last night, I figured we're just gonna have dinner and
sit around and talk.
Speaker 4 (01:27):
I didn't know anything.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
About this girl going to be there, But you think
you should have told me. Let me know, Joe, you
like girls, don't you?
Speaker 4 (01:35):
Well? Of course I like girls.
Speaker 5 (01:38):
We couldn't have done that, you know, would have loused
the whole thing up. If we told you ahead of time.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
We would just wanted you to meet her. Got the
full effect, bang like that.
Speaker 4 (01:46):
You know, I got the full effect. I tried to
set it all up for you.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
See it's pretty, don't you say? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (01:51):
I guess so.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Blue eyes, red hair. I think she's real.
Speaker 5 (01:54):
Pretty, you know, saying me had a whole evening plan
fights from the time you do met.
Speaker 4 (01:59):
I kind of got that idea. What do you mean
when you're about as subtle.
Speaker 6 (02:03):
As a water buffalo?
Speaker 2 (02:04):
Now you tell me where we were obvious? Go ahead
and tell me, well.
Speaker 4 (02:08):
All right? First off, the music that album or records
of yours there? What's it called love music? Or whatever
it was?
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Mood for lovers.
Speaker 4 (02:15):
Yeah, I bought them specially. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (02:18):
And the flowers on the table.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
You've gotta have flowers. You gotta have something for the
center of the table.
Speaker 4 (02:22):
You must have gone a long way for those orange blossoms.
You had to have those. Well, Pha is not gonna
like it. Well, I'm very sorry about that. Train. Oh,
we're just trying to show you the advantages of getting married.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (02:35):
I appreciate you and faate trying, but let me do
it my way. Any mail this born?
Speaker 2 (02:40):
Huh?
Speaker 6 (02:41):
Any mail?
Speaker 2 (02:42):
Yeah, Skipper, put a note in your book.
Speaker 4 (02:44):
Okay, tickets for the police show.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
You gotta sell tickets.
Speaker 4 (02:54):
Huh yeah, so do you? Here's your book.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
You're not mad, are you, Joe?
Speaker 4 (03:03):
Oh Man. It's just that all the time people are
trying to be helpful, you know.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
Well, I kind of hate to say it behind her back.
Speaker 4 (03:11):
Hm, I say, I hate to say it behind her back.
But it was phase idea. I didn't have any part
in it. Yeah, phase idea, phase idea.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
And sure you're not sorry, No, I told you, man, Sure,
I'm sure.
Speaker 4 (03:25):
Frank you know he own groof what. Look, it wasn't
the fact that she was the redhead wasn't ridy. Yeah, yeah,
skip her sister run this down, k the what he got?
(03:52):
Think a look at this.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
Hm there, sir.
Speaker 4 (03:56):
I have some information for you about.
Speaker 5 (03:58):
A big dope ring. It's important I talked to you.
I'll reach you at the street car stop at seventh
and Broadway on the East Side after three forty five
pms in.
Speaker 4 (04:08):
Our afternoon Wednesday.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
That's today.
Speaker 4 (04:10):
Yeah, read the rest of it.
Speaker 5 (04:12):
I can't tell you my name now, but I'll be
wearing a green skirt and a plaid sweater. I'll be
standing right by the street car stop.
Speaker 4 (04:20):
What do you think.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (04:22):
No signature.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
You got ahing The envelope.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
You know, post marked LA addressed a Jeweil division. No
way of telling where it came from.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
I think it's from a crank.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
As one place we can find out, Yeah, seventh and Broadway.
The fact that the note had been addressed to jewnile
divisions instead of narcotics detail indicated that the person who
wrote it had some knowledge of the workings of the
police department.
Speaker 6 (04:48):
It also led us to believe that the writer was
a jeweler.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
We checked again with Captain Powers on the letter, and
it was decided that we would make the meat that afternoon.
Frank and I spent the rest of the morning going
over reports on the case that we just finished.
Speaker 6 (05:00):
At three fifteen pm.
Speaker 4 (05:01):
We left the office.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
Frank stopped the cart eighth and Broadway for a traffic signal,
and I got out and walked the remaining block. There
was no one at the street car stopped dressed in
a green skirt and a plaid sweater. While Frank circle
the block. I waited three forty pm, still no signs.
Speaker 4 (05:16):
At three point fifty two.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
A woman of about twenty three got off the street
car and waited on the corner.
Speaker 4 (05:20):
She was wearing a dark green soup with a plaid blouse.
Speaker 6 (05:23):
I waited for some indication that she might be.
Speaker 4 (05:24):
The person we were waiting for, but she gave none.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
Finally, she turned, walked across the street and disappeared into
the crowd.
Speaker 4 (05:31):
Four o'clock four fifteen.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
Still no sign of a letter writing. Four point thirty
quarter to.
Speaker 4 (05:36):
Five, Frank pulled into a loading zone near.
Speaker 6 (05:38):
The corner, and I went over to talk to him.
Speaker 4 (05:40):
What do you think, Well, I don't know. She's an
hour late now, uh huh noe must have been from
the crank.
Speaker 6 (05:45):
I guess so, well, come on, get in.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
We better go back to the office. Now, hey, wait
a minute, joke, but right there.
Speaker 4 (05:52):
Across the street. Oh yeah, matches the description.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
Let's beat her.
Speaker 3 (05:58):
Well, she's looking this way, I'll check it. She looked
about fifteen, brown hair and a thin young face. She
was carrying an armful of school books. She paused in
the corner and watched me. I walked up to her
and told her I was a police officer. She nodded
and then walked out to the safety zone and climbed
onto a waiting street car.
Speaker 4 (06:18):
I followed her.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
She walked to the back of the car and took
a seat. I sat down next to her. I could
see Frank following us in our car. We rode three
blocks before she spoke, I'm.
Speaker 7 (06:29):
Sorry I was late.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
I'm sorry.
Speaker 7 (06:31):
I usually try to be on time, maybe even a
little early. That's the way it should be, don't you think, Well,
what was it you wanted to talk about?
Speaker 4 (06:37):
Miss?
Speaker 7 (06:37):
I got hung up at school, couldn't get away when
I thought I would. Yeah, that's the reason.
Speaker 4 (06:41):
Late.
Speaker 6 (06:42):
We just said something in the note about a narcotics ring.
Speaker 7 (06:45):
How much am I gonna get involved in this?
Speaker 2 (06:47):
What do you mean?
Speaker 7 (06:48):
How deep am I gonna get? I don't want any
trouble myself. I'm doing this to help somebody, but I
don't want to get mixed up in it myself.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
Maybe you better tell me what it's all about first,
huh wait, and decide the rest of it later.
Speaker 7 (07:00):
That's why it has to be.
Speaker 4 (07:02):
Well, you called us, remember, yeah, I guess. So? What's
your name? Edna? Is your last name?
Speaker 7 (07:08):
That isn't gonna help any you don't need it.
Speaker 4 (07:11):
How old are you?
Speaker 7 (07:13):
Fifteen?
Speaker 6 (07:14):
All right?
Speaker 4 (07:14):
What about this dope ring?
Speaker 7 (07:16):
I wanna tell you about it. A friend of mine
is in pretty deep. I think she's hooked bad. I
wanna help her.
Speaker 4 (07:22):
What's your friend's name?
Speaker 7 (07:25):
You have to have that?
Speaker 6 (07:26):
Well, we're not gonna be able to do.
Speaker 4 (07:27):
Very much without it, are we, Catherine?
Speaker 7 (07:31):
I can't give you a last name. I can't.
Speaker 6 (07:33):
How old is she?
Speaker 7 (07:34):
Fifteen?
Speaker 4 (07:35):
All right?
Speaker 2 (07:36):
Now?
Speaker 4 (07:36):
What makes you think she's using narcotics?
Speaker 7 (07:38):
I just know that's all.
Speaker 6 (07:38):
Well, it's a pretty serious charge.
Speaker 4 (07:40):
You must have some reason for saying it's got a reason.
Speaker 7 (07:42):
I've got good reasons. Do you think i'd go to
the crops if I didn't have you think bad?
Speaker 4 (07:46):
What kind of narcotics do you think she's using? Harold?
You know that for sure, do you? Yeah?
Speaker 7 (07:50):
I've seen her take a fix.
Speaker 4 (07:52):
Where where'd she take the fix?
Speaker 7 (07:54):
I've seen her do it in her room at home
place in near school of a Lewis apartments. Louis Lewis Compton.
He got Katherine hooked. He's the one I wanna see.
Speaker 4 (08:05):
You get Hall's he Well, I don't know.
Speaker 7 (08:07):
I think around twenty twenty one.
Speaker 4 (08:09):
Where'd you meet him?
Speaker 7 (08:10):
Down at bal Bol last summer? Katherine and he went
down for a week. We met him then Lewis and Vince.
Speaker 6 (08:15):
You know this Vince's last name?
Speaker 7 (08:17):
I think it's Bill b e l.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
I guess, sir, Well these two boys are they supplying
Katherine with a heroin?
Speaker 7 (08:24):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (08:24):
They got it for how'd you happen to meet him?
Speaker 7 (08:27):
First day we were down at Balbol, we went down
to the beach. We saw him. Then we didn't talk
to him right off, Not the first day. Uh, the
next day they came over to where we were then
laid down on the beach. They had a portable radio
and they were playing it loud. They were playing at
real loud.
Speaker 4 (08:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (08:44):
Well, Lewis asked us if they had the radio on
too loud, and he said no.
Speaker 4 (08:49):
Then we got to talking, all right, go ahead.
Speaker 7 (08:53):
We found out that they knew a lot of the
kids that go to our school, so we talked about them.
We talked and listened to the radio.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
Yeah, were either your or Katherine's parents with you?
Speaker 7 (09:04):
No, Katherine's father's got a friend, Elizabeth Balbo, all the
time we were staying with her.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
All right, go ahead.
Speaker 7 (09:11):
After we knew him a week, one night, they suggested
that we'd go for a ride down the coast towards
San Diego. No, they'd never given us any trouble, so
Katherine and me talked it over and decided to go.
They'd never gotten fresh or anything, so we thought it'd
be all right. We drove down the beach and then
we stopped. Boys had some beer in the car, and
(09:31):
we drank some of it, just a little. We didn't
think it would hurt, just a little, all right. I
guess we drank more than we thought because we both
got a little drunk. First time I ever got drunk.
All I wanted to do was go home and go
to sleep. That's all I wanted to do. I didn't
feel good. I remember that I didn't feel good.
Speaker 4 (09:50):
Go ahead.
Speaker 7 (09:52):
I got out of the car and I walked around
for a while. After I walked, I felt better and
I went back to the car. Katherine and the two
boys were smoking, and I could smell it when I
got in the car. Real sweet sick me. Marijuana, Yeah,
then asked me if I wanted some. Told him I didn't.
They all laughed again, said I was just a little kid,
called me chicken.
Speaker 4 (10:12):
So I did you smoked the marijuana?
Speaker 7 (10:14):
Didn't, Yeah, but not very much. Got sick again, and
I threw the stick away. That made Vince sore because
I hadn't smoked very much. He got out of the
car and found it was left of a cigarette and
put it in a box he had. Then he got
in the car and the three of 'em all drank
some more of the beer and smoked the rest of
the marijuana. They were all laughing and yelling.
Speaker 4 (10:34):
Katherine was smoking too.
Speaker 7 (10:35):
Yes, she was having a great time laughing it up.
Seems like everything that happened was just about the funniest
thing she ever heard. They were all laughing and telling
me what a square I was. Finally I couldn't stand
it anymore, so I said, if they wouldn't take me home,
i'd walked.
Speaker 4 (10:50):
And what'd they say to that.
Speaker 7 (10:52):
Told me to go ahead? Said I was a drag anyway,
and they'd be glad to get rid of me.
Speaker 4 (10:56):
He left.
Speaker 7 (10:56):
Then, Yeah, I tried to get Catherine to go with me.
She said she was having too good a time. She
wasn't leaving. She told me to go home and to
expect her when she walked in. Yep, So I left,
got out of the car and walked up the highway.
Was gonna catch her ride back to town. Pretty scared,
but I wanted to get back. I didn't feel very good.
(11:17):
I waited for the car, but the ones that went
by wouldn't stop. Then Vincent Lewis and Kathern came by.
They told me to get into the car and we
drove home. I had to wait out in front with
Catherine until she sobered up. Said she was too drunk
to go into the house.
Speaker 4 (11:31):
What time did you get home?
Speaker 7 (11:32):
Oh, it must have been three or three thirty.
Speaker 4 (11:36):
To see Vincent Lewis again.
Speaker 7 (11:37):
Well, I didn't, but Catherine did. Every night we were there,
she went out with him I didn't want to have
anything more to do with him. She told me if
I said anything that the people we were staying with,
she'd caused me a lot of trouble. I like Catherine,
she's my best friend. I didn't want to see her
get into any trouble. Thought when we left Balboa, she'd
quit seeing the Fellers, That's what I she'd stop seeing him,
(12:02):
did she no? When the school started again, she was
still going with Lewis. I'd see her around the school,
but she wouldn't have anything to do with me, said
I was a cube, talking all the time about how
she didn't know they grew corners like me anymore.
Speaker 4 (12:16):
How'd you find out she was on Heroin?
Speaker 7 (12:18):
One day? I saw her take a pop. She was
at her house, and I came over to talk to her.
She was pretty sick and she went into her room.
I went in after her to see if I could help,
and I saw her taking a fix. After that, I
didn't see much of her. I guess she didn't want
me around knowing she was hooked. When was all this
about two months ago. I've seen her a couple of
times since. She looks real bad.
Speaker 6 (12:40):
Her parents know anything about the narcotics.
Speaker 7 (12:42):
I don't know. There's just her father. I don't think
he cares much. If he does, he's not doing anything
about it. I'm just telling you all this so you'll
get Lewis and Vince. They're the ones who started her.
They're seeing that she gets the aide.
Speaker 4 (12:55):
M you know where we can find him?
Speaker 7 (12:57):
Yeah, Lewis has a little apartment over in the west Lake.
Speaker 6 (13:00):
You know the address?
Speaker 7 (13:01):
No, but I can show you where it is, all right.
I just want to see you get them, get them good.
She was my best friend. But you won't have anything
to do with me nothing.
Speaker 4 (13:11):
I may wait and straighten it out.
Speaker 7 (13:13):
What do you want to do now.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
Well, first we better get off the street car h
end of the line. Edna and I got off the
street car and Frank picked us up. We stopped at
a drug store and put in a call to the
office requesting that a policewoman be sent out to take
the girl into custody. Ten minutes later, off Sir Irene
Gardner arrived and the four of us drove over to
(13:35):
the Westlake area. The young girl pointed out the building
where she told us that Vince Beale and Lewis Conslin lanked.
She gave us a description of the two suspects, and finally,
after miss Gardner had talked to her, she also gave
us the full name of her.
Speaker 6 (13:46):
Friend, Katherine Pilgrim.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
We checked at the building and found that the two
suspects occupied apartment four G. Frank and I talked to
the manager of the place, but she told us that
the pair weren't in and that she didn't know when
they'd be back. She returned to the told Officer Gardener
to take it into Georgia Street, Juvenile and.
Speaker 6 (14:02):
Holder until we could get there. After that, Frank called
the office and ran the names Vincent Viale and Lewis Conflor.
Speaker 4 (14:08):
Through R and I.
Speaker 3 (14:10):
They both had misdemeanor records in California, and Veal had
served time in the county jail for possession of narcotics.
We called Captain Powers and told him what had happened,
and then we returned to the apartment and set up
a surveillance. At seven twenty five pm, we heard someone
coming down the hall.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
Don't worry about it. Things. Who are you throwing me?
All right?
Speaker 4 (14:32):
I'm sick, I know I'll make a call, get you
fixed up.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
This comment hold it right there, police officers, Hey, what
are you doing in here?
Speaker 8 (14:38):
You got no right to break in like this?
Speaker 4 (14:39):
What's this all about?
Speaker 2 (14:41):
Hold it out? Miscog?
Speaker 7 (14:42):
How do you know who I am?
Speaker 4 (14:44):
What are you gonna?
Speaker 8 (14:44):
Don't say anything?
Speaker 4 (14:45):
Kathy? You don't tell him nothing to turn around to deal?
What for?
Speaker 8 (14:48):
Will you shove me around?
Speaker 2 (14:49):
Around? He turn around?
Speaker 6 (14:49):
I'll shake them John, stay, you won't find nothing.
Speaker 4 (14:53):
Cop, I'm clean.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
I call him nothing. Where's conflin?
Speaker 8 (14:56):
You got to figure it's so good?
Speaker 4 (14:58):
You'd tell me? But I watch that mouth kiit is
gonna get in the trouble. You tell me all about it?
Speaker 8 (15:02):
Cop, I got no problem. What are you taking this
in on?
Speaker 4 (15:05):
What's a chart?
Speaker 3 (15:06):
Violation of the Narcotics Act and contributing?
Speaker 4 (15:08):
Yeah, you didn't find anything on me.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
You didn't find anything in the pad.
Speaker 4 (15:11):
You've been on a spike, cop, and you know I
Why didn't you run along?
Speaker 8 (15:14):
And I'll forget all about.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
You being all right?
Speaker 4 (15:15):
Let's go. Where are you taking downtown to Ja? You
call my phone? That's right?
Speaker 7 (15:20):
Well, he won't tell you this, and you won't tell
you get my shut Why I got nothing to hide?
I'm not a HiPE. You ask my father.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
Let me see your arms. Deal huh your sleeves, roll
them up? Come on quick here, where'd you.
Speaker 6 (15:31):
Get those marks?
Speaker 4 (15:33):
You tell me you see your arms, Miss Pilgrim.
Speaker 7 (15:35):
It's not gonna prove anything, not a.
Speaker 4 (15:37):
You see him. Go ahead, honey, if you don't go
along with him to bring out the rubber hose.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
Somebody messed with you a long time ago.
Speaker 4 (15:42):
Come on, miss Pilgrim, let see your arms.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
Well, all right here, how about it, Joe think away? Yeah,
fresh needle marks. We called not Division and asked them
to come out and go over the room and an
attempt to find a trace of narcotics. We put in
a call to the office and Irene.
Speaker 4 (16:05):
Gardner came out and took the Pilgrim girl in the custody.
The steakhout was set up on the apartment to app
for him.
Speaker 3 (16:10):
The other suspect, Lewis Conklin, Frank and I took Vince
Bial to the office and questioned him for over an hour,
but he failed to come up with his sources of
supply for the heroin. He was turned over to officers
from Narcotics Detail and booked in at the main jail
and suspicion of violation of the State Narcotic Act, a felony.
The call had been put into the father of Catherine Pilgrim,
and at nine thirty seven pm he arrived at the office.
Speaker 8 (16:33):
Friday and Smith.
Speaker 4 (16:33):
Where. My name's Friday. What can I do for you?
Speaker 8 (16:36):
I'm Robert Pilgrim. I want my daughter.
Speaker 4 (16:38):
She's downstairs right now. A doctor's taking care of me.
Speaker 6 (16:40):
But pour, well, she's pretty sick.
Speaker 4 (16:42):
Mister Pilgrim, sick.
Speaker 8 (16:43):
What's the matter.
Speaker 9 (16:44):
You've gotten a right to give her any kind of
medication without my approval.
Speaker 4 (16:47):
We couldn't reach you.
Speaker 3 (16:48):
How hard did you try? And called your at home
and your place of business. We got no answer. Our
doctor thought it was best to give the girl something
right away.
Speaker 8 (16:54):
What's wrong with it? What are you doing to it?
Speaker 4 (16:56):
Your daughter's a narcotic addict, mister Pilgrim.
Speaker 8 (16:57):
That is a lie. Now you get up here right now.
You hear me.
Speaker 9 (17:01):
You get on that phone and have I brought this
office right now?
Speaker 8 (17:03):
I'm taking a home.
Speaker 4 (17:04):
Afraid we can't do that.
Speaker 8 (17:05):
Well, you to tell me what's gonna happen. I pay
you a salary officer. Don't forget it.
Speaker 9 (17:09):
If you don't get on that phone and have my
daughter brought up here right now. I'll make some calls
and you'll be pounding the beat out in the tooleys.
I've got a lot of friends in.
Speaker 4 (17:15):
This town, and you've got a daughter who's hooked bad.
Speaker 8 (17:18):
As she told you that.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
No, sir, put all the test point that way. She's
got needle marks all up and.
Speaker 4 (17:22):
Down on iron.
Speaker 9 (17:22):
Well, you better get out and find a lawyer fast,
because I'm gonna pull that ten bags right off.
Speaker 8 (17:26):
That's so, you bet it is?
Speaker 4 (17:28):
How do I get a line down?
Speaker 8 (17:41):
Hello, Jackie?
Speaker 4 (17:41):
Is Bob Pilgrim?
Speaker 8 (17:42):
I'm down at the police station.
Speaker 9 (17:45):
Yeah, Kathy's here. The cop says, she's a hophead. I
want you to tell him here, you talk to.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
Him, Yes, sir, who am I speaking with? Yes, sir,
Well we did find hypodermic marks.
Speaker 4 (18:05):
I see all right. Sure, we'll be checking with you.
Speaker 8 (18:10):
Now, you'll get my daughter.
Speaker 3 (18:11):
I'll ever sent right up. I want to come out
to the hall. Frank, Yeah, would be called as a
family doctor.
Speaker 4 (18:24):
He might not have a case here.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
What's the matter all?
Speaker 3 (18:27):
The doctor says he's been treating the girl for the
past six months. Yeah, been giving her hypodermic injections. With
a doctor's statement, there was nothing we could do but
release the girl to her father, pending for their investigation.
Speaker 6 (18:45):
The parents of the teenager.
Speaker 3 (18:46):
Who had written us the first letter, came to the
office and she was released to them. At eleven forty
pm that night, we got word that the other suspect
had returned to the apartment and had been taken into custody.
It was identified as Lewis Conklin, aged twenty three, was
taken to.
Speaker 4 (19:00):
The main jail and looked on the same.
Speaker 6 (19:02):
Charges as Vincent Veald.
Speaker 3 (19:04):
Their apartment was gone over, but no trace in narcotics
was found. We questioned both suspects again, but they failed
to cooperate with us.
Speaker 4 (19:11):
Frank and I checked out of the office and went home.
The following morning, we drove.
Speaker 3 (19:15):
Out to see the doctor who had told me he
was treating the pilgrim girl. He said the girl was
underweight and highly nervous, and that he had been giving
her vitamin injection, who went on to say that he'd
stopped treating her five months previous at her father's request,
and that he had not seen the girl since then.
February eleventh, ten twenty four am, we checked the car
belonging to Vincent Veal.
Speaker 6 (19:35):
In the trunk we found an.
Speaker 3 (19:36):
Expensive leather jacket that looked too expensive to be worn
by a man who had the reputation of never holding
a job.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
We took the jacket over to the crime lab and.
Speaker 4 (19:44):
Had a check from a cleaning tag.
Speaker 6 (19:46):
We got the name of the cleaner who'd serviced the jacket.
Speaker 3 (19:49):
We contacted him and he remembered the jacket as having
been among several stolen from his store. With this information,
we went back to the main jail and had the
conflent boy brought from his cell.
Speaker 6 (19:58):
He told us that the jacket.
Speaker 4 (19:59):
Belonged to Vincent Beale, who was brought into the interview room.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
This leather jacket belonged to Evince.
Speaker 4 (20:05):
No, I never saw it before, Conklin says, it's yours.
Speaker 6 (20:08):
I don't know, maybe it is.
Speaker 8 (20:09):
What difference does it make?
Speaker 2 (20:10):
Take a look?
Speaker 4 (20:11):
We want to know.
Speaker 6 (20:13):
Yeah, yeah, mind, where'd you get it?
Speaker 8 (20:16):
Where do you think I bought it?
Speaker 4 (20:17):
You know someplace you can get these without buying them?
Speaker 6 (20:19):
Yeah, the same place you picked this one up.
Speaker 4 (20:21):
So what's that supposed to mean?
Speaker 2 (20:22):
You know a man named Ted Hartman who Ted Hartman.
Speaker 5 (20:26):
Ted Hartman never heard him.
Speaker 4 (20:27):
He knows you.
Speaker 8 (20:28):
Maybe he's got a better memory than me.
Speaker 4 (20:30):
He says he used to work for him. Yeah right, yeah,
how about it?
Speaker 2 (20:34):
Maybe I did. I had a lot of jobs.
Speaker 4 (20:36):
A cleanner says, you worked for him a couple of
weeks last December.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
It's a long time ago.
Speaker 3 (20:40):
Says this jacket was stolen from him. But where do
I finky think she's stolen?
Speaker 8 (20:43):
He's crazy, He's.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
Sure enough to make a complaint.
Speaker 4 (20:46):
Laugh, am out of court. Conklin says, it's yours.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
I told you I bought it. Conklin wants no part
of a burglary rap?
Speaker 4 (20:54):
What Conklin tell you? Maybe we ought to get your
side of it.
Speaker 8 (20:57):
Huh, what did he tell you?
Speaker 4 (20:58):
I got to write to know.
Speaker 5 (21:00):
Look, he's gonna make a beef like that.
Speaker 8 (21:01):
I mean I got a right to know what he said.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
He wants no part of it.
Speaker 4 (21:03):
He lays it all on you. He's no good.
Speaker 7 (21:07):
I didn't figure for a guy I could trust.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
He did all right on the deal.
Speaker 4 (21:10):
Luke kept us both going, what do you mean I
thought he told you all about it?
Speaker 3 (21:15):
Well, we want to hear it from you. A lot
of time stories get all mixed up. Now we want
to get it right.
Speaker 4 (21:20):
Now.
Speaker 8 (21:20):
We knocked the place, but it was both of us.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
Lou was in on it all the way go ahead.
Speaker 9 (21:25):
When we were scratching for h we had a real bad
We needed some way out.
Speaker 8 (21:29):
I thought about the cleaning.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
Place, figured we could score good.
Speaker 4 (21:32):
But we did all right.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
Took care of three of us for a long time.
Speaker 4 (21:34):
You confident on the Pilgrim girls. It yeah, that's it.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
What were you shooting?
Speaker 4 (21:38):
Me and Luke kept it down the Pilgrim kids.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
She built up fast.
Speaker 4 (21:41):
She was using five caps a day.
Speaker 3 (21:44):
I should have listened to Louis kept telling me to
drop her leaver alone.
Speaker 4 (21:48):
There wasn't anything between us.
Speaker 6 (21:49):
It just for last and then all of a sudden
she was hooked bad.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
We had to do something.
Speaker 5 (21:53):
He stole her jacket so we could keep her supplied.
Speaker 8 (21:55):
Five caps a day and that's a lot of h.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
I tried to break her down. I tried to cut
her habit.
Speaker 8 (22:00):
I did what I could.
Speaker 6 (22:02):
You can see that catch.
Speaker 8 (22:03):
I did everything I could.
Speaker 4 (22:05):
How much was that?
Speaker 3 (22:11):
Five twenty three pm, Frank and I, along with the
policewoman iron guard and go out to.
Speaker 6 (22:15):
The Pilgrim residence.
Speaker 4 (22:16):
They went up to the front porch and rang the bell.
Speaker 8 (22:19):
Yeah, what do you want?
Speaker 4 (22:21):
Like to see your daughter?
Speaker 2 (22:22):
Now?
Speaker 8 (22:22):
You get out of here. You get out of here
right now. I've had enough of this shoving around from you.
It's about time you learned your place.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
It might be better if we came in.
Speaker 9 (22:29):
Anything you've got to say to me, you can say here.
I don't want any cops in my house.
Speaker 4 (22:32):
You want to get your daughter? What for? You're gonna
have to take it down to juvenile home.
Speaker 8 (22:37):
You guys, just don't give up. Do you you want
me to call my doctor again?
Speaker 4 (22:40):
We talked to him this afternoon.
Speaker 8 (22:41):
And you know the story. And I get out of here.
Speaker 6 (22:43):
Do you want to get your daughter?
Speaker 8 (22:44):
Look, I've got a gun inside. If you're still here
when I come back, I'm gonna go.
Speaker 6 (22:47):
You listen to me, mystery.
Speaker 4 (22:48):
You've been making like a big man long enough. You
can play the part of the outrage apparent with your family,
but don't try to.
Speaker 8 (22:53):
I'm not going to have you talk to me like that.
Speaker 3 (22:55):
Not much you can do about it. We've got the
boys been supplying your daughter with narcotics.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
It's pretty clear that this.
Speaker 4 (22:59):
Home is in the place for.
Speaker 8 (23:00):
She's a good girl. We didn't say she wasn't, And
why don't you leave her alone?
Speaker 4 (23:03):
You know better than that.
Speaker 8 (23:05):
You can do your boy some good downtown. I got
a lot of friends.
Speaker 4 (23:08):
You're gonna need them all right.
Speaker 9 (23:10):
You want to make a case out of this, I'll
fight you in every court in the country before I
let you take my daughter away from me.
Speaker 8 (23:14):
Now you just tried.
Speaker 4 (23:15):
Your daughter's a drug addict. She's sick. She's got to
be straightened out. She needs help.
Speaker 8 (23:19):
Who are you to set yourself up as a jury.
Speaker 4 (23:21):
You've got a fine girl in there.
Speaker 3 (23:22):
She got all the breaks except somebody who thinks enough
of her to stand by her.
Speaker 8 (23:25):
There isn't anything she wants she doesn't have.
Speaker 3 (23:26):
What about the things she needed? You let her run
all over the town by herself. She gets in trouble
and you won't take the time to care for What.
Speaker 8 (23:34):
About those two men who got her started? What are
you gonna do with them? They're guilty. If it hadn't
been for those two, this never would have happened.
Speaker 4 (23:39):
They'll be taken care of. You lay the blame any
place you want, mister, but if you're honest, you'll keep it.
Speaker 8 (23:45):
What's gonna happen to her.
Speaker 6 (23:46):
She'll be giving the medical attention.
Speaker 4 (23:47):
We'll do what we can.
Speaker 9 (23:49):
I can't afford to take care of her. I've got
the money. I'll hire the best people. I wanted to
have the best.
Speaker 8 (23:53):
Yeah, she's mine. I'm a father. I've got the right
to take care of her.
Speaker 4 (23:57):
Yes, sir, that's right. Hm, why didn't she?
Speaker 1 (24:09):
Vincent Norman Beale and Lewis Shelman Conklin were tried and
convicted of one count of burglary and additional charges of
violation of the State Narcotic Act of Colony and contributing
to the delinquency of a minor. They received sentences as
prescribed by law. Burglary is punishable by imprisonment for a
period of not less than five years in the state prison.
(24:29):
Catherine Lourene Pilgrim had a hearing in juvenile Court and
was made award of that court. You have just heard Dragnet,
the Authentic Story of your Police Force in Action and
starring Jack Webb, a presentation of the United States Armed
Forces Radio Service.
Speaker 10 (25:00):
Step step that s that's that's stopper set step that's
(25:51):
that's stoppiness.
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