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Welcome to the High Vibration Reset, the podcast for women
ready to step into their next level of success without
burnout, overthinking, or ever feeling undervalued.
I'm Kira Conlan, your host, and for the past 18 years, I've been
helping women take full ownership of their growth, of
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their voice, their work, and their leadership.
And it's not just to help them succeed personally, but to
create real impact in their communities, workplaces, and in
the world. In today's episode, I'm joined
by the wonderful Moira Giri, a woman whose work has impacted so
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many women, including me. Moira is a mentor, a guide, and
I'm privileged to say a friend and I'm delighted that I can
share her brilliance with you today.
Now, Moira describes herself as a transformational teacher, but
she is a transformational changeagent whose goal is really to
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evolve human awareness and consciousness.
And she does this through her books, her her free Facebook
group, her many programs and live events.
Myra shares her journey in the podcast from nursing to building
probably 1 of Ireland's largest personal development brands.
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And in the podcast, we talk about emotional patterns,
intuition, transformation, and how to shift your perspective so
that you can finally move forward.
What I love? About Moira, apart from her
depth of knowledge and wisdom, is her practical noble approach
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to change. She is a lover of science, but
also, I believe has a deep connection to the divine.
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This week's episode. So hello, Moira, and thank you
so much for joining me on my podcast.
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I'm delighted to have you here. And I would love for you to
start by telling us how did you go from being a nurse to having
one of the top person personal development companies in Ireland
at the moment? Well, first of all, Kier, just
to say thank you so much for having me.
I love having an old podcast chat and particularly with you
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because I know you and umm, I love you so much that it's so
thank you for that. Umm And I suppose to answer your
question in terms of going from being a nurse to then going into
the personal development space and and growing a business, I
don't know if in the top now, but actually it doesn't really
matter where there I am, it is successful and people get the
help and that's the most important thing.
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But so I suppose in nursing and even before nursing, I always
had a great interest in people, specifically why they did what
they did. I'm still fascinated by it.
My poor husband, Jeff, I'm driving him mad because I'd be
saying to him, I think the reason why he did that is this,
this, this because I'd be, you know, working things out.
But anyway, not that, not that Iwould ever say, I know I would
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say, I think put that caveat in.So always hugely interested in
what drives people and why some people, you know, through
nursing very much why, you know,I've met people that were in the
most devastating situations, obviously in hospitals.
And how come some people dealt with it differently to others?
Um, if they were in often situations and then other people
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that were in situations where I would have considered I didn't
free as well, um, huge dealiations and whatever, but
you know, they might have responded in a very different
way. So it always has fascinated me.
And the first book I ever boughtwhen I was about 15 was a book
called Man Watching by Desmond Morris way back.
And it was all about body language and you know, all the
rest of it now, if you read it now, you'd probably think, God,
it was, it was great. It was very, you know, ahead of
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its time then. But it would, I mean, we know so
much more now. So that's where everything kind
of started when I left nursing. I not left nursing when I
finished and qualified as a nurse.
I did a bit of a stint here in Limerick and then Jeff and I got
married and we decided we'd headoff to London.
So going to London in the 80s and nursing in London in the 80s
really opened my mind. First of all that there were
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other, umm, others knew there were other religions, but other
cultures religions. And obviously, you know, I
worked with people from all overthe world and umm, when you
really get into understanding and seeing what how other people
see the world for lots of different reasons and also been
open up to all the modalities, that was the start to it.
I never knew anything about. I mean, I did break nearly 40
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years ago. If I mentioned this when I came
home and holidays, people would think I joined a cult half the
country now and break it on. But like, so I was exposed to
all of that like way, way back and had a huge curiosity.
So there was a lot of the holistic stuff and there was
also a lot of the personal development stuff.
So neuro linguistics, NLPA, lot of those kind of modalities that
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I became aware of and started toget interested in, started to
study. So that was kind of my hobby in
the background. But then I started to have
babies. Now it was 8 years later and we
had Joe and then I was pointing with Dan.
We decided to come home and thenI had Connor quickly and then I
decided to stay at home or we decided I'd stay at home for a
few years at Beast and that was the start of it because I
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couldn't sit still even though Iwas busy with three kids.
I started to dabble and started to, you know, work with people
and, and share some of the knowledge that I had and people
were very interested in it. I then had a very debilitating 4
years where I went into a very deep state of anxiousness and I
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would say even at times the the state I was in was quite
depressed and I I know now what that was about.
It was my own patterns that and I suppose through all of the
personal development I could work it out.
Even though I did go for traditional, I did go to see my
GP eventually and did all of that stuff but in the end I
actually worked it out myself and worked myself out at that
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stage. It took a while, but I suppose I
had to experience that to know that it was possible.
And also after that when when people were asking me about, you
know, helping them to overcome blocks and, you know, feeding
stock or a lot of fear if they wanted to step out in their
businesses or their careers or in relationships that I kind of
thought try this or give that a go or whatever.
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And it actually was working for them.
So that was kind of where it started.
Then I got really attention about it because people were
getting results and I'm very results orientated.
I know I am, which isn't necessarily the best thing if
you want to be in a high vibe, but I am.
That's just my personality. So I suppose what brings me the
most joy or a lot of maybe not the most my boys give me and my
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boys, including Jeff, bring me my most joy.
But the next thing is clients just coming back going.
That was so simple. I I can't believe I didn't
understand or know about that. And my life has changed.
And it can be that I'm not saying everything like I might
want to be doing the happy, happy and the toxic positivity
thing, but I also have huge amounts of evidence that yes,
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someone thing can be enough to literally flip something, change
perspective, reframe something that in itself can have a
massive massively positive impact.
So that's kind of where it went.And then I suppose like I got
also hooked on the whole idea ofonline way back.
And I suppose I was very early to do that in Ireland.
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There weren't many people, if any, doing it when I started.
So we're back to free 2009 I wasstarted my first online program
and that fascinated me that you could actually help people all
over the world and I could do itmy slippers what my.
Lovely snippers they are, yeah. Yeah, yeah.
And always would have the hot water bottle with me as well.
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And the boys used to learn God, ma'am, you know, you don't even
have to go out to work. So I know.
Yeah, yeah. But anyway.
But also lovely clients and people that knew I was in my
slippers and had my hot water bottle.
But anyway, so that's kind of how it happened.
Yeah, and, and I am one of thosepeople that you did transform.
So that is one of the the reasons why I wanted to bring
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you on because you definitely were a catalyst for me for a lot
of a lot of change. And as you know, I've been a
coach for years. Yeah, was doing your.
I'm glad you said that you changed that too, because I
didn't transform you at all. I'm.
I'm probably the catalyst. You did the work.
Because I can't. I didn't.
I don't. I just, you know, if I say
something and it lands with somebody, but it's not me that
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does it. Yeah, Yeah.
And I and I love that about you that yeah, yeah, there's that
humbleness as well and, and how much you do impact people's
lives. But yeah, I did your QTT course
and that was really interesting for me because not only did it
all of the techniques and the tools that you teach people, you
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know, teach me a lot and help meshift some of my emotional
blocks, but interestingly, that was what opened up for me the
probably my healing side. I started to experience and feel
energy from doing that work, which led me on then to, you
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know, like you always want to understand and LED me on to the
path of, you know, doing more energy work and emotional or
intuitive healing and all of that side.
But a lot of your work, while there is that energy element of
it, it's they're very practical science based tools.
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Yeah, yeah. And and I suppose, you know,
even you saying that you say that you went on to the healing
side, whatever. I mean, when I talk about QTT,
which is quantum thinking transformation, I would never
say to somebody, oh, it's a healing modality.
Of course it is. Every coaching is healing.
All of them are healing, but I suppose the client that I
attract more and also my own personality is a bit like you,
Kira, practical, logical, straightforward.
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Here are the steps makes sense and it'll, you know, work it
out. However, I, I was probably in
denial a bit of the whole energyside for a long time.
And it's not that I was afraid to talk about.
I just was in denial. I was because actually I had an
experience where I know I wasn'tlooking after myself
energetically working with a lotof clients.
And then I got a big hit where Iphysically didn't feel well for
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quite a while. And it was all energies that I,
I haven't been protecting myself.
But anyway, that's, that's a whole other a whole other
podcast. But I really feel that the mix
of the two, because when we do the practical stuff, it does
have a massive energetic shift. Huge.
And it's the energetic shift that that's where the really
thing is. But it's hard to describe it
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because it's, you know, the, the, the, the other tools,
you're saying they're scientifically based.
I use a lot of neural linguistics and use all sorts of
personal development tools and, and obviously my own experience.
And then I created a couple of different frameworks that really
work because it's all practical.But it's very easy to explain
that, but it's not so easy to explain the, the woo side.
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So, and I suppose because I liketo be able to explain, explain
as much as I can and as much as I I've experienced or as much as
I know the clients have experienced.
But it's I think they're the twoworking together is perfection.
Yeah, absolutely. And would you, you know, I often
think emotion is just energy. Would you agree with that?
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Or, you know, what do you think is is actually happening when we
are shifting the blocks, shifting all of these things
that have held us back? Well, it's really interesting in
terms of the word emotion because I did a masters in
psychotherapy a few years ago and my research thing was, was
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on emotions and, and the, the basically how you know the, the
impact of emotions in the therapeutic process.
And if you go looking for a definition of emotion, it's
probably one of the most argued things in the whole psychology
world, psychotherapy world, psychiatry world.
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So there isn't really a definitive definition for it.
And I suppose what I understand it to be is that when we have an
experience which is nothing, it isn't the emotion, but it's our
response to an experience that creates a physical sensation and
also an energetic sensation because we can feel it in our
body. It it's, it's that reaction to
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the actual experience. And that reaction is actually
physiological. In other words, when we have
we're exposed to the experience,our endocrine system will fire
off different things like let's say if it's a fright, it's
adrenaline or noradrenaline or court is also the stress
hormones. And when those stress hormones
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are released into our bloodstream, which they are, and
then we start to feel a dry mouth, short of breath, racing
heart, it's just our body reacting to the situation to
keep us safe. So what's happening there is
that we are getting ready to fight or fight or flee.
So to me, an emotion is that feeling that we're feeling
physically in our body. And when we, when we repeat an
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emotion over and over and over and over again, if we go to the
whole neuroscience subject heads, law neurons that fire
together, wired together. In other words, the more often
we repeat an action or a, a memory or a whatever, it is a
behavior where there is emotion attached to it.
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And the more we do it, the more we embedded that behavior.
It's just we gets our subconscious gets used to
knowing and it's very familiar. So it'll fire off the same
feeling. And that's what happened to me
when I had a couple of experiences in my around
academia actually. So school living search, really
an abysmal living search. And I, I remember when I got my
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results, the day, the time, the moment and the shame I felt and
the feeling of isolation and that I didn't belong and all of
those things in that fear of rejection.
So I, I at that moment when thathappened, I would have felt that
feeling. It was again like Hebbs law, the
neurons fired and wired and I would have gone back and thought
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about that a lot. And the more thought about it,
the more fire and wired I then would have squashed that down.
So it's a little bit like tryingto keep a football underwater.
And then I had other experienceswhere I tried to keep footballs
underwater. Another one was my nursing.
I failed my surgery. I was another big football.
I didn't didn't graduate with mygroup.
We were also close, still are close like 40 years later.
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So I had these balls underneath the water and basically any time
I thought of that fear of rejection, that fear of not
being enough, that fear of not being being good enough.
But I also wanted then to get out and have a business or you
know, have a success in some wayin my life.
And when I went to do that and it wasn't this business, it was
another business that I had. It was around skin care and I
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created a beautiful range of skin care products.
But then when, when I went to move out to actually promote
them, I went into absolute unbelievable anxiety where I, I
couldn't function. I, I really wasn't functioning
and it would nothing to do with the business.
It had to do with all of those years of the firing awareness.
So to me, that's what the emotion, how what, where the
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emotion gets started, what it isand how it can actually impact
us. Now that is in a negative way.
Obviously, I had loads of experiences where it would, they
would have impacted me in a verypositive way too, because I
wouldn't be riffen to be to go out and do things unless.
So by working on that pattern and releasing all of that energy
out of my body, out of my physical body, that means that
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or meant that when I went to step out and do something, I
wasn't feeling the fear anymore,which meant that I actually
could go out and do something, do what I need to do.
And that then starts to build your confidence because once you
start doing something and there's a good result, you start
to create a belief system aroundit.
And that will just start to to grow and grow and grow and the
belief will get stronger. So in a positive way.
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Yeah, I know. It's brilliant.
You were your first Guinea pig. So everything you teach people,
you tried out on yourself and you saw that that worked.
Yeah, to. Be honest, Kira, that's I, I in
the beginning I only really talked about things that worked
for me because how, why would I talk about other things?
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It was I'm, I'm, I'm really intoexperiential.
So if I didn't experience it, how can I teach it to somebody
else? Now, as the years went on,
obviously I'm, I worked with clients where they got results
in areas that I hadn't experienced, but that meant that
Oh well, at least I, I mean, I, I knew their story in great
depth and I support them throughworking through their blocks in
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different areas. So yes, I could use that then
with other clients going forward, even though I haven't
necessarily experienced those things.
But to be honest, at the end of it, the end of the day, it's
really fundamental. It doesn't matter what's
happening to somebody. It's about the emotion and it's
about to be blocked in our bodies and it's about working on
that really, but not always justthe emotion.
But no matter what you work on, the emotion is going to change
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because really all people want is to feel a different way.
That's really ultimately what we're looking for is that if you
were to narrow the whole thing down, the reason why people are
listening to this podcast, the reason why we read books, what
we're looking to do is to know that we can feel different.
And it's not that we're all feeling bad, it's that we might
want to feel a little bit more excitement or a bit more joy or
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a bit more whatever. And that's really what we're
looking for. Happiness, peace, flow, all of
those, all of the good stuff. Yeah.
Yeah. So it doesn't really.
The technique is the same regardless of of what you're
dealing with, whether it's fear,shame, guilt.
We use the same techniques to release those blocks and just to
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explain how does that emotional and mental connection happen?
You know, how do we? Because when we're working on a
block, it's not just enough to release the emotion from the
body. We also need to do something
with the mind, as you say, the neurons that that higher wire
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together over time. Yeah, absolutely.
So, so one of the biggest thingsthat I would have experienced
personally and also observed with clients in relation to that
is that when we see something from a different perspective,
that is enough to completely flip something.
Because let's just say you're looking at something in a
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particular way and you, you can't see it any other way
because that's the way you've experienced it.
And that's the way you've lived,lived right life around it.
And you're really blocked and stuck and you, you don't know
how to move forward. Well, then you're going to stay
stuck. Whereas if somebody else that
has had a different experience was to come in and talk about
their experience and how they overcame that thing, that would
kind of open your mind to what Ithere's actually.
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A possibility that I can fix this.
Now remember, once you've seen what they've said, you can't
don't see it. So you can't ever go back to the
way you are. But remember the way you are
seeing now that is dictating howyou're feeling.
It always does. So how we see the world would
dictate how we feel. So if I'm feeling stuck and
blocked and whatever awful all the time and I can't see an
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answer to changing my situation,but somebody over here now has
offered me way of looking at it differently.
And while I'm looking at it through their eyes, what will
happen is I have to feel differently.
So once you feel differently from another angle, it means
that you can never go back to fully unless you choose to.
And often when we're in victim mode and at that lower energy
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that that very slow vibration, then we often people will go
back. And because it's comfortable and
safe to stay here, even though it's miserable that sometimes
people will stay stuck. But the but I would have noticed
over the years a perceptual change or a reframe and and
that's I suppose like what the power of coaching been asked
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good questions. You know, it's just fabulous
because it just gets people to open their minds and see things
differently. Simple technique.
The problem, not problem in the seven day positivity project,
same thing. What we're doing is we're
getting people to disassociate from the problem and pushing it
out, not throwing it away, leaving it there, but also going
the solution's never in US. The solution is in what we call
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the nut problem, which is everywhere else.
And when people, when people actually experience that, you
can see in their body, everything expands.
It's just, there's a just a whole big release and that can
be enough to do it. Something as simple as that.
So tell me this, you know, a lotof coaches or a lot of
techniques out there, they promise, they promise
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transformation. And the experience for some
people is that, you know, it might work for a certain
percentage of people, but it doesn't seem to work for
everybody. So you've worked with a hell of
a lot of women at this stage. And people, lots of people, men
and women, but predominantly women.
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And Moira do. You see in.
Your experience that you know that every individual is
different and has a different amount of healing to do?
Or do you see that if they follow a certain process,
there's enough of a change or a transformation?
You know what I'm I'm trying to get to here.
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And I know what you're talking about.
Yeah, yeah. So there's kind of two angles on
that, but I just would would like to talk about.
So the first thing is that a lotof people wouldn't said to me
over the years, God more you getgreat results for clients and I
I did and the reason was I vetted them.
Well, that's the first thing. So I mean, made sure that we had
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really good conversations aroundwhere they're ready to do the
work, where they're willing to do the work.
And also that if they were to work with me one to one, which I
don't do anymore, by the way, wewere looking at two or three
sessions and that they weren't going to be with me for months.
And some people didn't like that.
So they weren't my right for me.So I had people that were
willing to do the work, knew what they wanted to work on.
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And so that was one reason why the results for good.
The second is the techniques areincredible.
So that was the second. The third one then would be
checking the ecology for the person.
So and it's because it's never Ijust think it's awful to ever
try and decide as a coach, therapist, whatever you are, you
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know, personal development practitioner that you know,
somebody has to change because you found a pattern that's not
working for them. We've no right effort to decide
that. So it would be always that the
client and I would always check and you know that from training
when QTT we always check the ecology.
So we check with them. Is it good for them?
It's a good for their relationships, is a good for the
family is a good for their. So they sit and they go, OK, do
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I really want to make this change?
When you're at that stage of theprocess, that's very important.
And I think that's another reason why I would a lot of my
clients would have gotten reallygood results.
Now, the other thing there is and that's the reason why I
would have gotten good results with myself.
However, I do believe and, and I, and actually it's interesting
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because I've had an incredible experience over the last couple
of years. Not nice, but an incredible
experience. And I definitely am coming out
the tunnel now. It's like I, I feel like I'm 98%
out. So I talked about the anxiety
many years ago and processing that and I probably in my
naivety went, Oh my God, I'll never go back to that, which I
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don't think I ever will go back to that because that that was
just what, what it was. And, and that anxiety and fear
of not being enough and not being good enough and all that
carry on. However, I have experienced a
very strange and I don't even know how to describe a kind of
energetic shift in the last two years.
And a lot of things happened in my life kind of outside of me.
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I nearly died of COVID, got breast cancer diagnosis was was
anyway fear mongering debate around bone density.
What else happened about my my boys are all gone.
That was devastating to me anyway.
So IA load of stuff. Mum died, 2 good friends died.
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Just a lot of stuff where it literally made me stop.
And then we evaluate. But I went through an awful lot
of very deep emotional stuff andmassive grief, massive grief.
And I processed that over the last, I'm going to say over the
last two years. People say, Oh my God, does it
take that long? Not necessarily, but I kind of
do it slowly because it's almostlike I'm documenting and then
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I'll be able to use all of the stuff that I learn.
So I put myself through the through the ringer a bit.
So so when you're saying like, do people get great results and
you know that are obviously trying to whatever.
Yeah, absolutely. And then after a while, I
believe, and that's why I believe that's why we're here.
We're here to learn, evolve and grow.
I think I had huge learning, evolving and growing many years
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ago when I overcame that anxietyand not that I was able to help
an awful lot of people since then.
And I think that I, my next involvement was this last two
years and it has been cathartic to say the least.
It's been massive. And you probably have seen that
a lot of people would have seen that.
I haven't been as out there. I haven't.
I didn't run an event for two years.
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We did one recently and it was amazing and sold out in 48
hours. And you know, like it was just
so easy and everybody turned up and even my energy afterwards, I
didn't have to sit and recover for days.
So I know that I've done the work on myself.
So what I think is that we have different stages in life where
we're going to evolve. Yes, the way the massive
transformations on the way, but it doesn't mean you've all the
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work done. Definitely Notion.
Yeah, much as we wish that it that we can put a final date on
it. That's me.
I'm enlightened. I'm healed.
But yeah, there's always more layers.
But, you know, I know what you mean exactly about people being
ready for it. And that's why I used to do
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calls to, you know, with clientswho wanted to work with me in my
life fellow program. And you know, and it is people
feel like it's it's as it's somekind of a sales technique, but
it's not really. It's to check that you can
actually help that person, You know, like you and I are are are
similar in that you don't want somebody's money if you can't
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help them. You don't want somebody as a
client if you know, this is, youknow, that's not who we are.
So it's really important to havethat check in to know that yeah,
I really believe I can help you and that you can change.
But, you know, so there's an element for people.
There's an element obviously, and being ready or being
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coachable, but there's an element of timing.
But how do we no, because we'll hear there's a lot from people
that oh, I'll just wait until, you know, maybe after the summer
or until the kids are, you know,back in school or they're a lot
of the time people use timing asan excuse not to move forward,
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not to take that action. How can people know you know
intuitively that the timing is not right?
Or how do they know if it's, youknow, an excuse,
procrastination, fear of taking that next step?
What would your advice be? There to the person, I suppose
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what I would say to that always is that when the when the pain
of staying the same gets greaterthan the than the fear of
changing, then they will move. But sometimes that's too late.
You know, why would you let yourself get to that pain?
So, you know, I mean, I, I know I would have said this to to
friends and friends that I know well able first over the years,
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when I'd hear the same thing, you know, a bit of a droning
about an issue or a problem. And then the next time I'd meet
them, either we talked about it's the same thing.
And sometimes just to pattern interrupted, I would say to
them, so how long do you want tostay feeling like that?
And So what do you mean? I said, well, you would last
time you were here, you were feeling it's time for we were
here. You feel it time for we talked
about it, but you've done nothing.
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And it's not that I'm telling you to do anything or that you
should do anything, but it's up to you to decide how long you're
going to stay in that pain. And I need even with them
generally that's, I mean, it's not for me to say that anybody
should change. But also I suppose with friends
then, you know, I and as I say, you know, I'd be very careful
with this now and who let's say to, but you know, I would be
kind of saying to them that really when we're together, it
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would be nice if we had a different conversation or you
know, I'm happy to help you withthat.
But if you're, if you're going to stay stuck on us, then you
know. Yeah, Yeah, one of the the
questions I would ask is what, what would your ideal future
self? What decision would they make?
You know, because it's getting out of that stuckness to kind of
visualize who do I really want to be and how will I behave when
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I am that person? Yeah.
So, you know, you're a very intuitive person and I've heard
you many times in the past, you know, make business decisions
based on giving yourself space and time.
Is this right for me, first of all, before I can go out and
serve others? How have you developed that
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intuition? Over the years, I, I definitely
had a number of kind of blows with that where my eager would
jump in and and whatever. Yeah.
So I suppose it I, I, I've learned to tune into it based on
looking at what my motivation is.
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So back in pre 2009, around 2009when I said I went online here
at home, the boys were teenagersand were young teens and all of
the work that Jeff had went overnight and worked in
construction. And that was one of the biggest
shocks to me because basically our income was completely wiped
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out overnight. So that was a big, big thing.
And it really made, you know, quite a difference to how we
all, you know, experienced life and, and, and what what was
going on for us. So because of that, I was
motivated by fear and my motivation was all about we need
to make enough of a living to feed our children and whatever.
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So it was really real, like we just, we had to like, you know,
to pay mortgage, to pay anythingelse.
And that motivation, I, I, I, I even, I think back to it now, I
can actually feel the feeling ofthe motivation in my body.
And again, it goes back to getting familiar with how things
feel. So I got more and more tuned
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into, uh, that over the years because I suppose I was teaching
that, that you know, about emotions and about feelings and,
and, and all of that. So when I got used to
understanding that and actually that that all the decisions I
would have made in the early days were actually very aligned
to that and they worked out quite well, even though it was
fear based, which is interesting.
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But as time went on and businessgot better and it didn't, it
didn't all get better all the time.
Things changed, things moved, you know, so, but I would
definitely have learned an awfullot about intuition through that
business because there were things shifting and changing so
often. So that was probably one of my
biggest, I don't know, classrooms really in terms of
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learning, but also in terms of friendships and in terms of, you
know, the way you, let's just say you were interviewing
somebody for a job and they camein and on paper everything looks
great and they come across really well an interview.
But there's just something in the back of your mind that goes
something off here, but you cannot explain it and you can't
say it. So and you take the person on.
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And this happened before when I was in nursing because I used to
interview a lot and then the person would turn up and they
turn up for the job and then something would go wrong and
you'd go that was it. But I couldn't put my finger on.
So that's an intuitive nudge or,or a hunch.
And when we practice, and I would have done a lot of
practice over this with this over the years.
So, and I actually teach it in, in 5G living intuition and how
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you know, all the different levels.
But that would be the first one is, you know, check in with
yourself and see how many hunches have I had?
What did the specific feeling feel like when I had the hunch
and how many of them were right or not?
And that's what would start to teach you.
Oh, I'd like I, I, I felt that feeling really strongly.
And I know that feeling. And that was those ones were
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always right. And those ones, even though
there was a hunch there was something different about that
feeling and they were all alwayswrong.
And actually recently, this is with the, the, in the last two
years where I've had all of thisnew learning and cathartic
stuff. I literally had that sense that
I needed to pull back and not run some of my programs,
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including QTT. Haven't run the QTT for two
years, not to run live events. And then I was like, this is
completely ridiculous from a business perspective.
Like this doesn't make any sense.
But there was that feeling inside that I knew what I knew.
Now, the other thing that that Igot was open a membership and I
was going, I've always said I would never, ever open a
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membership because it means thatI'm always on.
Yeah. And I just knew the feeling told
me to do it. And it actually has been my
saving grace because it's been amazing supporting people in
that membership over the last few years and my own evolvement
because I could. That was a lot easier in ways
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than running big events, doing big launches, running, you know,
training. Programs energy more gradual,
yeah. But The thing is that the, the
finances of both sides actually has not been massively
different. So I'm working, I suppose a lot
less. But it was all based on
nutrition. And I kept saying, I even sent
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it to the Mint PPC. I kept saying, don't know why
I'm doing this guys, but I've been told to do it, so I'm going
to go with it. And I said it's just, I'm sad.
I've been told and I don't people think, Oh my God, you
hear a voice. No, it's, it's, it's an
intuitive feeling for yourself and you just, I don't know where
you don't know. But it's most that has come with
practice. It's just I know because I know.
I'll tell you, Karen, the day, the day I had the mammogram
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where I had the breast cancer diagnosis, I knew when I had
that mammogram. I've had loads of mammograms in
the years before and I never would have had any feeling
around it. I was sitting at this desk the
day the results came. I didn't know that the results
came. Jeff walked into the office and
he left the envelope on the table.
The minute the envelope hit the table, I went into fighter
blight. I would complete fighter flight
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and I opened it and I was calledback to court.
Now if anybody listened to this,I was very lucky it was caught
so early that you know, my, my treatment was was quite small,
but but still, it was a significant thing to happen.
But I knew now I've had other tests and I've I've gone back
for mammograms. Obviously I'm I'm going to be
checked for for whatever number use when I'm going now for
mammograms went so far. Anyway, I know that everything's
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OK. It's not.
Yeah. It's.
You just get so familiar with that feeling in your body that
you absolutely know. Yeah.
Yeah. And it is something you have to
cultivate. But I think it's really
important that what you said, that people often confuse that
fear feeling the fear response. We feel that fear and the, you
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know, the depth of our belly. Yeah, because we often say the
gush gut feeling, but it's distinguishing that getting to
know that feeling. And in my experience, intuition
is always lighter. And there's that, you know, I
always said I'm not starting a podcast.
And look at me, look at us. Yeah, and and you know, I, I
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agree with you. It's a lighter feeling and also
it's like, it's almost like something comes into my body and
it's grounded and solid and it'sthe word is yes or the word is
no. It's like it's like I can't
explain it. It's just I know because I know
this is the right thing to do and I could not give you logical
A logical explanation, but this is what I need.
To do this is what's important and it's trying to get out of
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that. You know that that mind response
that for you, as you say in thisdoesn't make business sense for
me not to run these programs, but something is telling me and
it's to have that trust. I suppose it's not always easy
because not everyone is in that position that, you know, they
have a business set up. And I've experienced that, that
fear of I need to I need to pushforward, I need to do something.
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But anytime I've pushed and pushed, which is a lot, I must
say, it doesn't it doesn't flow.Whereas this podcast has just
everything has flowed. I have had this most beautiful
guests say yes and everything has been easy.
And that's that experience of that lightness and following it
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rather than logically, I don't have time is my what my mind was
telling me, but my body was justfollowing the the the flow that
was calling me. But yeah.
So one of the ways in which people start to work with you is
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through your seven day positivity project, which is a
way to kind of get started into this a very, you know, gentle
introduction to all that you do.Tell us a little bit more about
what's in that and you know how that benefits people.
So first of all, just to let people know that it's free and a
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lot of people again would say that makes no financial sense.
It's worth at least 190. There's a lot in it.
I agree it is, but I have a very, you know, I mean,
everybody that that's around me for a while would know that
there's a statement that we have.
It's all part of my brand, whichis that no soldiers left behind.
So I would hate to believe in this planet thinking that I made
everybody pay for something, youknow, couldn't get a bit of me
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unless they unless they exchangemoney, even though money is
wonderful, don't get me wrong. And you know, it's really
important and I asked there's nothing that women need to get
their act together around. Money's beautiful energy and
it's really important that we charge for what we do.
However, I do know that sometimes people just maybe need
at a taste or something that's free or somebody needs a program
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that's free that will help them.So we've had both, We've had
people where they get the taste of seven day positivity project.
They go, I know I need, I need to work more with Myra or they
get 7 day positivity project andit just changes everything for
them. They might never need to work
with me again. In fact, I met a woman, uh, I
was at a Brett's work workshop acouple of months ago and at the
lunch break, umm, we were outside and she came to me and
she said. I didn't see anything inside
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today, but I was on all your free stuff through COVID and she
said you initially saved my life.
Her husband died of cancer and she's a boy that unfortunately
died by suicide. And she said kept her going.
I never knew the woman, never met her, didn't know anything
about her. But my intention always would be
when I'm giving something out for free that I just hope it'll
land in the right place. And if somebody wants to work
with me and wants to pay me, that's absolutely fine.
If they don't, that's OK too. So the 70 positivity project,
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there is a lot in it. So, and the reason why there's a
lot in it is there's no point tobe given the kind of something
kind of, you know, a bit there black and without people being
able to get the results. However, if somebody did
download it, which you're all very welcome to do, you need to
do a bit of work. You need to be open a little bit
like what we were talking about earlier on in the podcast.
You need to be just a little bitopen to maybe looking at things
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a different way. So I covered the golden rules in
that here. So that's kind of a way of
living. Give you an example of one of
the golden rules, which would beunderstanding and that we all
have our own unique model of theworld.
They might be thinking, OK, what's that about?
So I see things one way, my sister sees them another way.
My brother sees them another way.
Even though we might been in a room when we were children and
something happened and we all believed we experienced the same
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thing, but we all perceive it differently based on our past
experiences and our beliefs are based on how we were on that
day, etcetera. And because that is my model of
my world just going to dictate what I do next and next and next
and next. So when you're in your 30s and
parties and you're chatting withyour siblings under having a
real Archie bargie about the waysomebody was treated that day
and you're going other words that we're in the same room.
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So basically we all have our ownunique model of the world.
And the point is that we don't judge.
It's just our model of the world.
And when we start to see and believe that and live, this is
the whole thing about the positivity project.
Yeah, you can watch all the videos, but if you start to live
by it and go out and observe people and think, Oh my God,
she's got a really unique model of the world, it's very
different to mine. That doesn't mean that hers is
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wrong, doesn't mean that mine isright or mine is wrong.
It's just they're different. So that is just one of the
golden news. But this forum, I also go
through the codes, the seven behavior codes, which is a
framework that I've created myself based on my experience
with clients. And I say that it is a framework
that helps us to understand behaviour.
Now I'm not saying that it is, you know, obviously there are
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loads of ways of looking at behaviour.
But for me and for QT tears, QT practitioners and for clients,
it's a very simplistic frameworkthat dictates that we have 7
things that we're looking to fulfill every moment of every
day in a bid to be happy. So when we've all of these
things fulfilled, basically our subconscious mind or our ego or
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our spirit or our soul will be happy.
And very briefly, they are to besafe and secure, but also to a
bit of variety and excitement, which they are almost like
opposites. But we need both because you
have a very boring life. If you're just safe and secure
and you don't have bright excitement, but you have a very
wildlife. If you only had bright, the fact
that you didn't have any safety and security.
So there needs to be balance. That's two.
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And the third one is significance.
That was my one. That was where I really had a
lot of imbalance in that area and that was in that sits in the
solar plexus in the body. And that's where I used to feel
all of my anxiety. Then we go up to the next one,
which is all around love. We need love, giving, receiving,
self love. We need to express ourselves
authentically. That's the next one.
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And then we need to progress andgrow, which is huge.
We always need that feeling thatwe're moving forward.
And then the last one is about connection and that sense of no
separateness and that we belong.So once we've all of the sense
of all of those things quite balanced in in our life, then if
you meet people and you were to ask them how are all those
things in life? If you find that they're very
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happy people, most likely they'll be balanced in all of
those things. So that's the code and then I'll
go to load this, load some otherlittle, little techniques and
they're the one with the lemon, um, which shows you how when we
look at different thoughts and pictures in our mind that our
body will actually have a reaction to that.
So, um, where we can create stress where we're hallucinating
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about things rather than actually anything actually
happening, Um, so. Powerful our mind, yes.
Yeah, so much more in this. I can't even think now what else
is in it, but there's loads. And we'll, we'll put the link in
the show notes. Yeah, yeah.
After this welcome, yeah. So Mario, you know, my goal with
this podcast is to help people kind of step into that higher
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vibrational state where our mindand body is in alignment,
coherent. For you, whenever you feel your
vibration slipping, when you're maybe in a little bit of a low
mood, low vibration. What?
Techniques do you reach for first?
What are your go to habits? It's.
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Interesting 'cause it's probablychanged in the last two years.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. So the first thing I think is
that that is massive here is awareness.
So if we're not aware that it's happening, then you're in a road
to nowhere. So I would say to anybody that's
watching this, and if you're fairly new on your journey to
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make a commitment to being aware.
And what I mean by that is just noticing what is going on.
And often how I get people to todo that is to, you know, we all
have devices that do have alarmsand chimes and things.
So have something that might do a little being every hour and
then in a check with yourself and say, OK, in the last hour,
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how aware was I of, you know, whatever behavior or, or
whatever, whatever it was. And that just helps us to become
aware. Now, if you weren't aware for,
for if you're only aware for twominutes, that's fine.
Don't beat yourself up. Just see if you could be aware
for three minutes the next hour or 4 minutes the next hour.
So that's just and you're observing how you're feeling and
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also maybe observe what might have happened outside of you to
create that feeling on the inside.
And remember that we are nothingoutside of us can make us feel a
certain way. That's something that we
unconsciously choose to be. And I know that we do a lot of
that by default, as in fear reactions and things like that.
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Obviously what happened and sad doesn't hurt, you know,
somebody, if somebody breaks up with you or whatever, of course,
the natural reaction would be tofeel hurt and you know,
abandoned or whatever. And it's really important that
we allow ourselves to feel that and just to become aware.
And so awareness definitely would be, would be, would be my
first. Now, I suppose when we look at,
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you know, getting low and getting a bit flat or, you know,
our vibration going down, If I just explain just very briefly
the, the kind of four, four, Well, I, I, these are, are,
there are 4 levels of consciousness, if you want to
call them that, that Peter Sage talks about.
I don't know if you're familiar with them, Kira, but I, I use
them a lot of my teachings. I think they're very helpful.
The first level is to me consciousness, which is very
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victim, very flash, that's very dense and it's very low
vibration. So that is where people are
really stuck and they're blamingeverything outside of the cells
for the stockness. Nothing wrong with that.
And remember, that's the level of consciousness that they're
at. And so there's no judgement on
that. That's just the way, the way
and, and all of us could be stuck on that if we didn't have
the opportunity to have help or,or to be aware that there is
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help available. So, you know, when you meet
somebody that's stopped at that,please don't be offered to them.
Even though I find it very draining being around someone
that's in that energy. It's just because it's a low
vibration. That's that's what it is.
OK. The second one then is what we
call by me consciousness. And that's really about where
you realize, Oh, I can make a change and I'm an achiever and I
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I'm going to take the steps and I'm going to take the action and
the whole coaching world would be very around.
I'm not saying only but but coaching is great for getting
people to buy me. So they take responsibility, get
on to do it. The next one is through me
consciousness. And that's where we go into
higher vibe and it's more aroundmanifestation and understanding
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and knowing that you doesn't have to be hired.
And that's kind of flow state. So that's really beautiful.
And the last one is the most divine.
And this is the one that that I've been I've been invited to
go into over the last two years.And that's more as me
consciousness and that's where we connect with oneness.
And that's back to me. And I mean, I'm not going to say
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like anybody can can do that. And there's lots of practices
you can do to, to go there. And it's basically where you go
deeper within rather than ever looking outside of you to create
your, your happiness and your joy and your bliss.
And it's the lightest and the freest vibration and it's
beautiful. And also, am I in it all the
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time? Absolutely not.
Do I get triggered? Yes, I do.
Do I go back to the victim? Yes, I do.
We all go up and down through them all the time.
So I don't want anybody to thinkI know I'm so evolved.
I'm sitting up there, you know, arming and doing, being, you
know, everyone all the time. If you are, you're not human.
So we all are human. We all have ego.
So we're going to go up and downthrough them all.
But I suppose my focus now is more bringing people to that, to
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that more expanded consciousnessand, and, and PPC the, the
membership. That's what happened because
when we, we went in first, I hadthe founding members launched.
So a lot of people knew me and Ihad a load of things organised
and set up for them in there. And they told me no, no, no, we
don't want that. We don't want that.
So I ended up doing a lot less in there than I thought I ever
would. And I'd I'd coaches set up and
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odd starts not, not, not they didn't want.
And what, what was really was the feedback was they wanted
more and more of understanding that more expanded
consciousness. So yeah, we use practical stuff
and we talk about practical stuff all the time too.
But there's a lot of what I callIams.
They're a type of a meditation and activation that I used to
bring them into that state. Yeah, yeah.
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That's kind of, I suppose, a long winded answer, I suppose
again. It's fabulous.
Yeah, Yeah. And it's interesting that I just
heard David G saying recently I was on a live with him on Inside
Timer and somebody asked the question of, you know, when
people are in that to me consciousness Now they didn't
they didn't phrase it that way. But the victim, you know, blame
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is not my fault. How do we protect ourselves from
that energy? And he said, you don't protect
yourself from that energy. You raise your vibration.
When you raise your vibration, no, you know, nothing's going to
affect you. So I just thought that was a
beautiful shift. And, you know, a lot of the time
we get caught up with this thinking, you know, that we have
to protect ourselves from the negativity of the world.
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But if we focus on ourselves, onour healing, on our own love,
self love and raising ourselves,everything else fades into the
the. Distance, I'm not going to say
this is this next bit is going to be easy, but it's it's it's
like you say, you know what, what tips would would I have?
So and I need to explain those levels of consciousness first
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and to say that I'm not always in the the top one, don't think
for a second, but I am. But if I do get a low time or a
low day or, or a, you know, feeling that, you know, even
I've noticed because a lot, a lot of things that Jeff does
triggers me. That's my husband, by the way.
And like we go around blaming them all and I've noticed we're
very open about it. We talk about it all the time.
And I've said, Oh God, can you do that?
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It'll try so much. So I've I and that's just a
simple example, but also I woulduse this for bigger examples.
And it goes back to the as me consciousness.
So if I, if I feel that there's a trigger coming, I just start
myself and I just go, OK, go inside and just just TuneIn to
yourself and tune into all that's available to you on the
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inside. Happiness, joy, bliss.
Is it really important that I need to comment on what just
happened there? Do I really need to do that?
And if I do, who's who's having the fun?
And it's my ego. It's my ego that's having the
fun. So I just come back to me
because I'm not my ego. I step separate myself back from
it and then I can kind of have alittle bit of a little bit of
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sense of humour around my littlehuman that's just decided that
she wanted to have a bit of a hazy fish because she wanted to
Jeff that she was right and he was wrong.
So, and I'm looking at it from this higher consciousness going
are you for real, boy right. Like, you know.
And there you go again. No, that you know, and that
actually sets me free. That sets me free.
So that really does help me now and I might say it and, and sure
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people can if it's right for somebody who will be the power
of now. Eckhart Tolle has really helped
me with that now. But I'm going to put a caveat
now. I bought that book 15 years ago.
I could not read it. I couldn't get beyond.
Oh, it was like, it was like wading through quicksand.
I absolutely, but I say devouredit in the last year or two.
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I didn't read it quickly and I normally I read very quickly,
even personal development books because I take it on and I say
I'm going to take that with me and I'm going to use that and
use that, use that. But I usually go through
quickly. So it took me months to read it.
Bosch, I absolutely loved every word because I suppose my own
level of consciousness was different to what it was 15
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years ago. So I was ready for it.
And that has helped me hugely with being present, being in the
now because all we have is this moment.
You know, we can project into the future and we can make it
really exciting, which I'd, I'd really encourage people to do.
Or we can make it really scary, which I would say please don't.
So. And if you're doing that, come
back to the now because all you have is now.
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And definitely what's happened in the past is gone.
It's done. I'm not saying that we don't
learn from it. Of course we do.
And what we get the learnings, we let go of the feeling and we
stay in the now. Yeah.
Yeah. And I would have had a very
similar experience. And I think we're alike and that
we're fast movers where we like results, we like, you know, to
achieve goals. And I think it was, I don't know
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how old that book is, but it possibly is 20 years ago that my
sister-in-law gave it to my husband.
And I was like, Oh my God, this is just too slow.
And another book of his stillness speaks.
And, you know, again, over the years, I'll come back to it and
come back to it. I've done his course, become a
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teacher of presents, and yeah, gradually we can really
understand the beauty and the peace and the joy that comes all
in that present moment. But just to step back to what
you were saying there about being triggered, because when
I'm triggered, it's gratitude that releases me.
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I'll always shift into gratitude.
I've got that practice now wherewhen I feel the irritation or
the anger start to come, it's OK.
What can I see that I'm gratefulfor in this moment, in this
person, in this experience. And and it really just opens you
back up to, as you say, that higher consciousness space of,
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you know, who do I want to be? Yeah, yeah.
And you know, like when I'm teaching about triggers to my
students or everybody that's in PPC, we've great fun with them.
When someone says obviously triggered, I said, God, you're
so lucky. And they go, yeah, you're so
lucky because once we're triggered, all that is, is just,
it just is a reaction in us about something that the next
thing we need to work on or lookat.
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And again, if we detach ourselves from the human and the
heart of us that's having the hissy bit, we can work it out
and we can do it with compassionand we can do it with love and
we can take care of our human. But also, it doesn't mean that
we've sustained that awful energy of being triggered and,
you know, feeling that this conflict or longer conflict on
our lives. And that's what creates peace
and joy. I mean, the number of people
that would say even with the positivity project where they're
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saying their family situation, particularly with siblings, has
transformed because they've juststarted to apply some of the
golden rules and understanding that we're not our triggers,
we're not our responses, you know, and just be a bit
compassionate ourselves. Absolutely.
I haven't been. Yeah, Yeah.
And and tell me this about joy. What's bringing you joy right
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now? OK.
So the, the biggest thing in my life that will always bring me
joy is my three boys, my three sons, Jordana Connor, 30/28/27
at the moment. But they are Absolutely Fabulous
and I, they just bring me so much joy as does Jeff.
Don't get me wrong. It's like Jeff and I are kind of
like, you know, I would say this, you know, when people say,
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oh, he makes me complete, No, hedoesn't.
I'm complete, he's complete. We're both complete beside each
other, but we are so solid and like we, we're together all the
time, which is lovely. So they would be my my favorite
people and they bring me so muchjoy.
But last year we bought a campervan Kira, and that's
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bringing me joy at the moment. Now the jury was really out in
the beginning. I just was saying, Oh, I don't
know about this now, you know, but anyway, we did a trip
recently and we did the NC 500 in Scotland, which is the whole
North Coast of Scotland, 500 mile thing.
And we had the most divine weather.
It's like unbelievable in May not and Midgee anywhere.
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And it was absolutely stunning. And so that was joy.
And we've done all of Ireland last year in it, even in
February we were up in Sligo. And so it's great fun, great
fun. And will it be something that'll
bring me joy in through your stuff?
I don't know. But if it isn't, we'll do
something else travelling and myboys, my four boys, that's my
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joy. And also work.
I mean, like people say to me, you know, will you ever retire?
Or even with a conversation withsomebody, with lunch with them
during the week. They were saying, you know, like
you've got to stay down. And I know that it's great that,
you know, I don't have to force the business or I don't have to
work, which probably sounds a little bit, you know, egoic, but
I don't have to work. But at the same time, I I can't
imagine not doing something because it does.
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I could watching watching a person get a realization where
it's going to change their lives.
Like I mean, you know what, you've seen this, you know your
clients the same, but when you see somebody do that and I know
that we and I don't feel that thing of oh, I did that because
actually I used to feel that a bit and it's actually not that
I've said that that actually feels a bit ick.
I don't like that feeling, but when you watch somebody just
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just get it and you think, Oh myGod, that's just amazing.
That's joy. Yeah.
That is joy, yeah. And I hope one day to have the
impact that you have had in the world and so far, and I know
there will be a lot more to come.
And you know, I want to thank you and, and I'll do that on
behalf of all the, the thousands, hundreds of
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thousands, probably at this stage more of, of, of people
that you've helped. So thank you for being in my
life, for being my friend, my mentor and teacher over the
years. And thank you so much for coming
on the podcast and sharing your wisdom and beauty with the
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world. You're so welcome Kira, and
thank you for having me. It was just lovely having the
chats. So I hope you found this
conversation as valuable as I did.
Moira's wisdom, her honesty, andher grounded approach to
transformation is always a reminder that change doesn't
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have to be dramatic. You just have to want it first
of all, and then take the first step.
The support and the help is out there.
Moira has some really great programs like Wake Up and Change
Your Life, Wealthy Minds, and a membership program called the
Positive Pulse Collective. But as she.
Mentioned in this interview, probably the best place to start
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is with her seven day positivityproject, and this free training
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