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All right guys, welcome back to the Low Carb Consultant podcast.
Today I'm joined by Ben Giles, adiet educator, family man, and
carnivore diet creator known forkeeping it real.
Ben lives in Pennsylvania with his family and shares practical,
honest content about what works,what doesn't, and how to live
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carnivore in cost effective, realistic ways.
He doesn't shy away from the downsize either, letting people
know about the pitfalls, the challenges and how to make real
progress without all the hype. So Ben, man, it's a it's a
pleasure to finally meet you and, and thanks so much for
taking the time and coming on. Dude, I'm so happy to be here.
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Like the fact that you even reached out to me and had me on
the podcast, I was like, oh, let's do it.
Like I could, I could talk for hours about all this stuff.
Like it's, it's definitely a passion of mine.
So I'm I'm just happy to be. Here me too and and and I I'm
glad you you you took me up on the on the invite.
Like I was saying, I came acrossyour profile and Instagram.
You have great content, good messaging, and I was like, I
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just got to reach out to this guy.
So, so great to have you on, man.
I really appreciate you taking the time.
Maybe before we get into all thecarnivore stuff, for some of the
listeners who may not be as familiar with you as I am, could
you give some of the listeners just a real brief background on
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yourself and maybe what even took you down the carnivore
route? Yeah, so quick background.
I was not always a carnivore, diet guy or influencer by any
means, but I've always kind of been in the video space.
I was in a touring rock'n'roll band for 13 years called the
Small Town Titans. I used to drink my face off and
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smoke cigarettes and do all the the rock'n'roll shit, you know.
So that was like where I got, that was the most of my adult
life really was doing that. And I stepped away from that to
be a family man, married with two kids.
And you can't be on the road in a rock'n'roll band all the time
when you want to raise a family.So I stepped away from that and
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I started a media business and started doing video.
And what got me into the carnivore diet was a video that
I saw with Jordan Peterson on Joe Rogan's podcast talking
about his daughter Michaela. And I had always been interested
in, you know, being fit, being healthy, those kind of things.
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Even though I didn't exercise all the best healthy habits in
my past, it was always somethingthat I had been interested in.
So I saw this video and I was like, huh, I never heard of
that. That is the craziest thing.
But all the anecdotes that he was presenting were just so
phenomenal that I was like, let me maybe do some research here
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and, and see what's going on with this.
I can't imagine you can just eatmeat and eggs all the time and
went down the rabbit hole and decided I was like, hey, like
I'm not sick or fat, but I don'twant to get any of these crazy
illnesses that a lot of other people suffer with.
So maybe I can just start eatingmeat everyday.
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I love meat. So it kind of fell.
It was a happy accident. I started doing it and it sucked
at first real bad. Like you go through that whole
keto flu kind of thing, hit in the bathroom, dude.
But then this amazing thing happened where like for me, it
was about a weekend and I just started to feel better than I
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had ever felt before. And I was hooked ever since
then. And I've kind of yo yoed going
on and off of it for the past two years.
But I know for a fact that I am at my best as a human being when
I am eating on the carnivore diet.
And that is just something that it's just speaks volumes to me
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because I believe that most people don't know what it's like
to feel good and they're just inpain and sick and gaining
weight. And they just never saw this
other side. And I'm just like, man, there's
if you, if you try it, if you got nothing else to do, like
give it a go because it's, it's working wonders for me and
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hundreds of thousands of other people.
And I just started making videossharing my experiences with it,
and now we're here. Yeah, very cool.
And and a couple things there. So you, so this was when you
found that Jordan Peterson video, this was a couple years
ago. So you've kind of been doing
carnivore ish for a couple yearsnow?
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Yeah, yeah. So I'm, I'm almost two years in.
I, I forget exactly, but I wouldsay I didn't.
I've been pretty prominent with it for about two years now, over
a year for sure, but yeah. Interesting.
And so you weren't necessarily dealing with a ton of, you know,
because like I said, I, I saw that Jordan Peterson clip too.
And I've seen tons of clips on Michaela Peterson talking about
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all the crazy issues that she was dealing with from when she
was a child all the way up till when she was in, I think college
getting like multiple like jointreplacements because her
inflammation was so bad for arthritis, so bad.
I think she's had like knee and ankle and hip replacements like
pretty crazy for just like a young girl.
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So it's interesting. So you weren't really dealing
with a lot of that. You're just like, hey, this
sounds interesting. I'm going to give it a shot.
Yeah, I was like, I'm not, I'm not sick.
I'm not in pain or anything. I mean, outside of the normal
pain, but I was like, let me just try it.
I've always been into like optimization and stuff like
that. So I was like, let me just try
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it. And then this magical thing
happened and I was like, all right, well then this is just,
if I can figure out how to live this way without breaking the
bank, I'm going to do it. And that's when I started
looking around. I was like, oh, what's this?
What's the best cut of meat thatI can get and make steaks out of
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that's not going to be like thiscrazy price of a rib eye?
And I stumbled upon the Chuck roll.
Somebody else had made a video about cutting the Chuck roll up.
And I was like, I wonder if you can just slice that into steaks.
And I did it and it worked for me.
And I made that one, one video just out of the blue.
My first ever carnivore diet video got like 16 million views
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on TikTok. And then I was like, OK, I
should probably continue to makecontent and share this because
clearly there's a need. People don't know about it.
And yeah. How that's so awesome when So
what? We're just out of curiosity,
what were you eating before carnivore?
Was it just like like were you on any sort of diet?
Was it just basic like kind of standard American ish or nothing
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in particular? No, I I would eat anything
literally like you could put lasagna in front of me and I'd
now I'd now that down and I was known as the garbage disposal in
my family because that we would make dinners.
Everybody would fill their plate, eat part of it and then
just shove the rest of it to me.And I was just eating.
It didn't matter what it was. I'd eat ice cream, cookies,
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pasta, you name it, it was. It was being eaten by me.
So when you went carnivore, I think you said about a week and
a half and that's when you started to notice, you know, you
were feeling different. What was, what was like the
biggest? Was that the biggest change that
you notice or was it anything else?
Or was it just mainly like the the the mental side of things?
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It was mainly the mental side ofthings, but the first thing I
noticed was I was waking up in the morning without like
immediately trying to go get caffeine.
And that was I was like, huh, like I am strangely awake.
This is this is kind of cool. I wonder if it's because of the
diet and I believe it. It was because every time I fall
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off the diet, I start to struggle again and then I get
back on and I just feel better. But for me, I struggle with
ADHD. I was diagnosed as an as an
adult. I thought I was a crazy person
for like most of my life. But when I got diagnosed, it was
kind of like an epiphany. I was like, oh, OK.
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And I noticed on the carnivore diet that this mental clarity
started to happen for me. And with ADHD, you just lose
focus. You see squirrels everywhere and
you and you want to chase them. But when I, when I got on
carnivore, I felt so much more focused and clear and it was
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just, it was incredible. I don't know how to say it
because if you put a puzzle in front of me when I'm not on
carnivore, I will do it slower than when I'm on carnivore.
It's you just have this clarity of like, oh, I used to not know
what to do in this situation. Now it's like painfully clear
what I need to do. And that was kind of the moment
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for me. That was like, oh, this might
need to be a lifestyle that I try to adhere to versus a short
term fix or a tool. A. 100%.
Well, because it was. It was unlike anything.
Well, I, and I got to tell you this, I know exactly how you
feel. So I was diagnosed with ADD and
ADHD in elementary school. So I was put on Ritalin when I
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was like in the 1st grade. I took Ritalin.
All the way up into high school,I was put on Adderall and then I
took Adderall all the way up until I was 30.
I'm 40 now. I'd be basically, I was
medicated like the majority of my life and I was just talking
about this on a podcast with Casey Ruff.
I was on his podcast, it's called Boundless Body Radio.
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And basically what I was saying was when I found like, like
ketogenic diets, essentially it,it opened up my mind and allowed
me to basically like, I felt like I was able to tap into
parts of my brain that were never available to me.
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Like, and it was because of the way that I ate just all
throughout, you know, my childhood, adulthood and all
that type of stuff. But even when you're on like
Adderall or Ritalin, that's justa stimulant.
It doesn't give you the effects of a ketogenic diet.
And once I went keto, that was the big thing I noticed.
Like, Oh my gosh, like this is this is on another level.
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Yeah, you're you're you're freaking smarter.
Totally. I don't know how else to say it.
Like when you eat a healthy dietthat's high in fats and lower in
carbohydrates, like you become asmarter person and I will die on
that hill. If anybody says otherwise I'll
be like. I would disagree.
I would no, no, no, I, I would die with you then because it's,
it's a, it's 100%. It's 100% of fact.
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It's just like ketones are with the way your brain operates off
ketones. It's a completely different
level. I did want to touch on because I
know a lot of your content, it'sbasically like some of it's like
carnivore on a budget, which I, I love, but going into some of
the downsides. And I wanted to talk about this
because one of the, you know, one of the posts that you made,
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it was a really open, honest andtransparent post about like, yo
guys, I have fallen off the map on the carnivore diet for like a
week or so. I think you said in the video
I'm back on, but I just wanted to be honest with you guys.
And I honestly, I was one of those people that really
appreciated a post like this. I didn't think you are at all
like a fraud or anything. I'm like, dude, this guy's just
being honest. And guess what?
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We're all human beings. We're, we're all human beings.
We all make mistakes. And it's just like, that's not
even in my opinion. That's not even a mistake.
That's just called life, man. But I was curious, so going back
to maybe let's call it like a little carnivore slip up, what
had you noticed being on the diet for the past couple years
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being like the biggest downside?The downside that I've noticed,
probably just the heaviest, is when you get off the carnivore
diet, you go back to the way youfelt, but it feels worse.
So like that. Then that's what I was saying
where I was like, man, there's so many people out there that I
don't think they know what it's like to feel good.
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I know what it's like to feel good.
And then when you go back to feeling bad, you're like, holy
shit, like what was I doing? So if you go, if you're eating
pasta and cereal and sugary stuff and you switch to
carnivore, you'll notice a change.
But then if you fall off, you will notice the fall hits
harder. And that's I think the biggest
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thing. And it's like you feel worse.
You'll probably get like a headache, you'll be hit in the
bathroom again. You'll be struggling to think,
struggling to sleep your your anxiety or your depression or
whatever. If you had that will will come
back. And it's just that's the biggest
downfall. Once you feel good and you go
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back, you feel worse than you did before.
Yeah, that's, that's really interesting that you said that.
Another thing that you you you said, and you also were touching
on this a little bit earlier. What is interesting is most
people don't know what it's liketo feel good.
And going back to like my experience, like, you know, 30
years being on Adderall or a combination of Ritalin and
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Adderall and then getting into like a ketogenic diet like in my
middish mid, early to mid 30s. Basically what I realized was
wow, I was essentially living the majority of my life in like
with a film or a filter or a fogin my brain and I was like
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everyone else that doesn't eat like this or not necessarily
like this. Exactly.
Right. But like most people are living
like that. And when you're looking at like
the statistics of the US and it's like 6070% of the
population is obese and it's probably because they're eating
a very highly processed diet. Everybody, when you think about
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it like this is crazy. When I just like think about
this and say it out loud, everybody is walking around and
operating on a day-to-day level with that fog going on.
Not even, not even giving, not not even getting to like true
self optimization, if you want to call it that.
But that's what's wild to me. It's just like most people are
just operating at A5 out of a 10or a six out of A10 all day.
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Yeah, all day long and and nobody knows it and they don't
know any different. Exactly.
And it's like, and it's you. I mean, I don't go out there and
try to thump the carnivore diet.Like all of my friends need to
do it. My family needs to do it.
Obviously, no one in my family does carnivore but me.
But like, they would operate better if they did.
And I just truly believe that. And I always like to tell
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people, like if you're operatingon a standard American diet and
you're trying to, like, lose weight or improve your health or
your life in some way, and you've tried everything, the
carnivore diet is your next try.Yeah.
Because if you have nothing left, just try it for three
weeks. And see how you feel because
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yeah, you're right, the Americanpopulation especially is full of
carbs and sugars and gluten and processed everything.
And it's just like, man, you don't, you don't know any
different until you try something that has none of that.
Like it's, it's crazy. It's just crazy.
Yeah. And like you said, like most of
us just don't know any better because like we've only lived
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through one perspective and it'sjust like we've just eaten what
we've always eaten. But we don't know that there is
a completely different view on life you can live if you just
change what you eat. And it's that's just wild to me.
Everyone's operating 5 out of a 10I.
I had another question in terms of just like maybe slip UPS
going back to that one video I was talking about.
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So are you the type of guy like when like, let's say, let's say
you're on the diet, things are going well.
And, and, and I say this becausethis happens to me too.
We're like, I'll have a good run.
And then, you know, something comes up where it's like, let's
say it's a birthday, it's a wedding, it's an event, We're
going to the movies, whatever. And we were talking about this
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before we started recording and like going to the movies with
the family and we're getting popcorn and, you know, the kids
are getting Sour Patch Kids. And in that situation, to me,
that's when I'm kind of like draw the line and say, like, OK,
like this is where I'm going to enjoy myself.
Have a little bit of food or have some treats, snacks,
whatever you want to call it. But then I kind of make the deal
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with myself. Like, OK, this is the trade off
I'm making. Like I know in this moment I'm
going to enjoy my time with my family.
We're going to watch this movie at the theater and I'm going to
have this popcorn or candy, whatever it is.
And then boom, I'm back on tracktomorrow.
Is that something? And I know everyone's a little
bit different here. That's why I'm asking you, is
that something that would kind of like derail you?
Are you the type of person that's like a moderator or an
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abstainer? Like are you, do you have to
stay on track? Will one thing kind of throw
everything off? Like how do you navigate that
situation? So I am not a moderator, I kind
of like need to stay on track. Got it.
However, it's, it's a, it's risky business for me because I,
I will not deprive myself of thepleasures of life for sure.
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So on, on date night, when I go out with my wife, she has a
glass of wine, I have a glass ofwine.
It's something that I enjoy. It enhances my life.
That's our special time together.
We enjoy doing that. I do not say no to that stuff.
Same with birthdays and weddings.
Like you said, if there's cake there and everybody's having
cake and I just feel like havingcake, I'll allow myself that
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cake so I don't hold myself to an unnecessarily high standard
with it. Because I already know that like
90% of my diet is just pretty much steak and eggs or any kind
of meat and eggs. The risky part for me is when
you have cake or ice cream or any kind of carbs, the cravings
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that you had gotten rid of for all that stuff come roaring
back. So you're, you're going, oh man,
I'm going to give myself this bowl of ice cream because I've
earned it. And half the time you do, you
know, sometimes you don't. But when I have that bowl of ice
cream, 30 minutes later, I'm like, well, geez, it's maybe.
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Fucking cheez its. Man the cheez its have.
Fucked me. Over so many times because they
are so delicious and I hate them.
But yeah. And then that's what happened to
me when I made that honest video.
I had stumbled. Stress.
Stress in life kind of just got to me.
And I start reaching for a comfort thing and I'm telling
myself, oh, I deserve it this time.
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I'll get back on it tomorrow. And I fully mean that when I
tell myself that. But then tomorrow comes and if I
don't have my carnivore diet stuff readily available, I will
reach for convenience again. And that's what happened.
I forgot to defrost my bag of steaks the night before, so when
I woke up, everything was frozenbrick solid.
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And I was like, oh, I guess I'm,you know what?
I'm going to have a bowl of cereal.
Screw it, I'll get back on it. And then you get home that night
and you're like, Oh, well, I'll just, you know.
Steaks are still frozen pasta. Yeah, but like, but or just like
they've defrosted. But then I'm like, all right, I
have my steak and I was guilty of this.
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My wife made an awesome pasta dish.
I topped my steak with pasta. And then, you know, it's just
these little gifts, these littlegifts that you just continuously
give yourself. And then a week into that is
when I was like, damn, I completely ditched the diet and
I stopped making content about it because I, I wasn't on it.
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I wasn't living that. So it, it felt weird to me to go
out there and make a carnivore diet video when I wasn't on
carnivore. And so I was just, I made that
video to be honest about it because we're all human.
We're all going to screw up. You're you're going to screw up.
I'm going to screw up. Any carnivore diet coach out
there screws up whether they tell you they do or not.
So I was just like, you know what, I want to be the honest
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guy. I want to be the one that just
tells everybody how it is. And it's not easy.
It's simple, but it's not easy. Oh, that's, that's a great way
to say it. And, and, and that's interesting
that you say that because I was going to make a YouTube video
about this and it's about it. I would, I was going to call it
scheduling out your cheat day. And I have, I have utilized this
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over the years and it's really, really helped me out.
And the reason why I want to saythis is for some of the
listeners that are going to be listening to this is those life
events happen. You say like the date, the date
night with your wife where you want to enjoy the time.
You don't want to be adhere to some strict way of eating, you
know, birthdays, weddings, whatever the case is.
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It's like, yeah, we have these periods of celebration in our
life where we want to enjoy them.
And So what I was going to make the YouTube video about, and and
I'm saying this because I want to get your two cents to see if
this is something that you wouldever implement.
But scheduling out the cheat of like, OK, our date night is 3
Thursdays away or three Fridays away, right?
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I'm going to be strict carnivoreuntil date night.
And the the deal that I make with myself is one, I've got
food to make the next day. So I defrost whatever meat or
steak that I've got or I have food already ready to go that I
can get back on track the next day.
And two, I get back on track thenext day.
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You know, I, I, I make the, I make the commitment to myself.
Like, OK, like I'm spending all this time staying on track and
I'm going to feel amazing. I'm going to enjoy myself.
The, and the reason why I say make the deal with yourself to
get on track the next day, because I feel where a lot of
the guilt or the shame and like where you start feeling crappy
about yourself comes on is it comes on after the cheat when
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you don't get back on track. And then you, you don't, you
didn't do what you say you wanted to do and when you know
you should have done it and you kind of break the promise to
yourself. And that's where like the
increase in guilt comes up. But if you're prepared and
schedule out the cheat and like you're like, I'm doing this
thing this month, I'm doing thatthing the next month, I'm doing
this thing in December, that kind of gives you those little
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milestones throughout the year to do the thing that you want to
do. But the deal is that you get
back on track and you have food ready to go.
I'm just curious to see before Imake that video if that's
something that you think even makes sense.
I think it makes perfect sense and I think there's there's a
bunch of different personalitiesout there that would either
benefit from that or not benefitfrom that.
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Everybody is like completely different and everybody has
different preferences. But yeah, scheduling out your
your cheat day and knowing like,hey, this is the day I'm going
to do this gives you something to look forward to.
And you just have to be, you just have to, you know, stick
with it until that day and then get right back on it afterwards.
But allow yourself to indulge. And scheduling is something that
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I think is perfectly viable for a lot of people.
However, in my situation, a lot of the times where I have
something off the diet are completely spontaneous.
Gotcha. So my, my, my view on it is as
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long as I eat like 90% meat and eggs, I can have something here
or there. And that is a decision that I
make for myself. I, I won't make that decision or
give that advice to anybody else.
The reason that I make that decision for myself is because
I'm not sick and I'm not fat. If I was sick or fat, I and, and
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wanted to change those, I would stay strict carnivore even
through the, the toughest of temptations because it's that
beneficial. But once you, once you do it and
you get yourself, your body intothe shape that you want, then I
kind of just start being a little bit more free with it and
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allowing myself the spontaneous thing here or there 'cause I'm
always in meetings or doing events or trainings or something
and something might come up and it just, it just happens from
time to time. I think the biggest thing for me
is controlling how how much you cheat.
Because I have a very addictive personality.
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And instead of eating a little bit of Mac and cheese, I'll be
like, fill that bowl. Up.
Yeah, so like that's my problem and I think that's just
something that I got to get better at is just not cheating
to the Max. Well, you, you now you just made
me think of a really good caveatfor that YouTube video I want to
make. And here's the caveat.
So let's say, because you're right, you are in a completely
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different situation. If someone has, let's say it's
like 50 or £100 to lose and you're not out your goal weight.
I don't want to use the word earn it, but technically you
kind of haven't earned it yet. Like don't, don't be cheating.
Don't be cheating all the time if you're not at your goal
weight. Like put it right, make the
cheat when you get to your goal and then get back on track if
that's how you want to do it, and then going.
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I'll say it, I'll say it. If you're sick or fat, you don't
deserve. It get.
Get your get your shit together.Yeah, exactly.
But there's another thing that you said I was that that's
interesting and you laid out like the 9010 rule or like the
8020. And I think for like someone
like once you get down and you have earned it, let's say, and
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you're maybe like at a position where you're at where you're
not, you're not overweight, you're not sick.
You know, you just like to feel good.
And that's why you eat the way that you eat.
I mean, technically, if you really want to do, you could,
you could get away with doing like like the 8020 principle
where it's like the majority of the week you're staying on track
with carnivore and then you're cheating on a on a Saturday or
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whatever the case is. And then you're back on track
with Sunday. Like you could as long as you
don't allow yourself or you havelike the willpower to not eat,
eat that full bowl of Mac and cheese or eat the Mac and cheese
and then the cheese that's afterit.
As long as you get back on track.
I guess there's a little bit of self-awareness that goes into
it, but it's like that is somewhat doable.
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Now. I understand too, though, some
people have food addictions, sugar addictions and that just
doesn't work. So I guess maybe the other
caveat would be like having a little bit of self-awareness
around how you have behaved in the past and your relationship
with food. And if that doesn't work, being
strict is the way that that you got to do it the majority of the
time, then maybe that's just what you got to do in order to
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feel the way you want to feel. Yeah, yeah.
You have to structure your diet or your plan in a way that like,
you know, treat yourself like your friend.
Like what I do, I trust myself to stick to this structure.
Or am I setting myself up to fail?
Because if you structure, if you're, you know, really in need
of getting healthy or losing a lot of weight and maybe maybe
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don't allow yourself those cheatdays because they are very
slippery. One cheat day leads to two and
then you're a week out and then you say screw it to the whole
diet in general. So like it depends on your
goals. If you're, if you're decently
happy with the way you are, you can have a cheat day here or
there. And if you know that you're
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disciplined enough to get back on it, then it's OK.
If you're at a point where you're like, bro, I'm 350 and I
have autoimmune diseases. Like I've tried everything.
Try strict first, no cheat days,Don't even schedule them in.
And you're just going to have tosay no every time and be that
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annoying friend that's like, oh,I can't come over for dinner
unless you have steak. You know this It's, it's
definitely, it's that definitelydependent on the, on the person
and their state a. 100. Percent what they can do with
cheat days and I'm just lucky enough to be able to do it every
now and then and I'm not wearingthat like a badge of honor.
But yeah, if I was unhealthy I would stay strict carnivore 100%
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of the time. Well, and then the last thing on
this, because I do want to talk about carnivore on a budget, but
I think one of the things that goes into my mind is when I do
cheat on my diet, I want to get back to feeling the way I want
to feel as quickly as possible. And what I know is that if I
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continue to cheat, it's just going to elongate me not getting
there, you know, so it's like when I cheat, I'm almost like,
all right, let's it's, you know,it's, it's a Saturday, go out to
the movies, have popcorn, candy,ice cream, whatever the case is
Sunday, I'm back on track, you know, because I want to get back
to feeling the way that I felt as quickly as possible.
And I remind myself of that. That's that's kind of how I go
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about it. Carnivore on a budget.
So and the reason why I want to bring this.
Up real quick though, Should I? Should I add one thing to what
you're saying? Yeah.
Absolutely. This is something that I've
noticed about myself and it has to do with cheating.
When you cheat on the carnivore diet, you have to make it worth
it. So for instance, I I hate going
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to the gym, but I do it when I'mdone.
I've never regretted going to the gym ever in my life.
I love pasta and lasagna. I've always regretted having it
when I've done it. I love red wine.
If I have just a little bit withmy wife, I don't regret it.
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And that's because that cheat enhanced my life and built a
relationship and was a part of the experience that I had.
If you're cheating just to sit on the couch and like have a
chocolate bar and it's not like enhancing your life in any other
way, then you're you're just cheating for a mouth pleasure.
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Cheating, I think, has to like put the rule in place that like
if I cheat, it has to like benefit me in a relationship or
an experience that I'm having. That's when cheating I think is
OK. That is, that is great advice.
And I would 100% agree with you on that one.
And and that goes back to like birthdays celebrations, like if
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you're at some sort of an experience, yeah, if it's going
to enhance the experience, like for sure do it.
But like, like you said, if it'sjust like it's Sunday and you
know, you're sitting on the couch watching football and
you're just like eating chips because it's maybe a cheat day
or you want to call it a cheat day, but you're just being a
lazy fat ass, you know, then like, yeah, man, like you're
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right. I agree with you.
It's it's not worth it to deal with the repercussions.
You might as well save it when you're doing something, an
experience that's going to make it worth it.
Yeah, if it's your first time inChicago and you've never had a
deep dish pizza, that's an experience.
Yeah, that's not, that's not sitting at home and let me have
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some chips because. 100% well said.
Well said. I'm glad you stopped me there
because that's a good one. So carnivore on a budget, What
are your top tips for doing carnivore while on a budget
without compromising maybe the quality of the food, the meat,
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whatever the case is? So the first thing I would tell
anybody is figure out your preference of eating.
And I say that because everybodymakes fun of me for cutting the
Chuck roll that I get into steaks instead of just doing
what everybody else does with it, which is they roast it, they
pull it, they pull it apart, they make pot roasts, whatever.
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I found out the hard way from that.
I did that and I meal prepped itand I put it in the fridge and I
had a couple of steaks. And I noticed that I always
reached for a steak no matter what.
And then that pot roast or that Chuck roast just kind of stuck
in my fridge and eventually wentbad because I was always
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reaching for steaks. And when I would eat the Chuck
roast like in a, in a bowl of just meat and salt and stuff, I,
if I ate too much or how much I felt like I needed to eat
because I was still hungry, I would always feel sick after
that. So I narrowed it down through
trial and error that like the steak format, a slab of meat is
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what does best for me. So figure out what you like to
eat and then just double down onthat.
And if you like variety, figure out a bunch of things that you
like to eat and then make sure you have those with you.
So that's number one, eating on a budget.
If you prefer steaks like me, the Chuck roll is the best way
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to eat fatty steaks for 1/4 of the price of rib eye.
And I started making those videos and that was where when I
realized like all the comments section was like, Oh my God,
this is a crazy deal. The carnivore diet is so
expensive, but it's it's really not if you do it the right way,
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ground beef, eggs, chucks, Chuckroasts, that's probably the the
cheapest way that I do it. I don't, I don't fuck around
with all kind of supplements or all kind of ingredients and all
this stuff. And when you do carnivore,
right, and you're doing it rather strictly, you're not
going out to the grocery store and buying 17 different
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ingredients for one dish. I mean, I don't know how many
times I went out and got an onion, used half of it, and then
the other half of the onion wentbad, sat in the fridge before I
used it again. And that goes with every
ingredient. Like I got spices in my cabinet
that have been in there for three years.
And it's just like I bought thatonce for a dish two years ago
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and it and it's just still sitting there.
So you save so much money actually, because you're not
getting anything else. Like meat feels expensive, but
it's so much more satiating thanall the other stuff that if you
just cut that out, you eat less of one thing.
Like I eat 2 meals a day. I have a steak and four eggs for
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breakfast and a steak and four eggs for dinner and, you know,
cost me 450 bucks a month for myself and I eat a lot.
So I mean, my steaks are pretty big.
Yeah. But like a lot of people's
grocery budget is pretty wild and they think that it's like,
how many, how many times has hashave you gone to Sheets or
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McDonald's or all this other stuff like add up how much
you've actually eaten in the month and then your grocery
budget doesn't seem that bad. I, I, I was going to ask you a
question on eating like the sametype of steak over and over and
over again, because I'm sure youget some comments around, Oh my
gosh, the carnivore diet or maybe there's no, that could,
and I'm saying this because thisis what I've typically seen is
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people saying, Oh, I just can't eat the same thing over and over
and over again. Now I over time have felt,
especially if you are doing the carnivore diet or like right
now, I mean, I eat the same thing for lunch every single
day. I eat the same thing.
My dinner changes up, but mostlyfor lunch Monday through Friday,
I'm eating the same thing. And it's just, it's just, it
makes my life so simple, just knowing what I'm going to eat.
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I don't have to think about whatI'm going to cook, all those
types of things. But for the, for some of the
people that are out there that are maybe commenting to you and
saying like, how do you eat the same thing over and over over
again? Do you ever get bored?
Like what are your thoughts on that?
How do you typically respond to people like that?
So my answer to that would be no, I don't get bored.
I actually look forward to having the same single thing
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every single day. And I know that that takes a
special kind of person to feel that way.
My wife cannot do that. She loves variety.
So it's just. Yeah, Yeah.
So in that sense, the carnivore diet is just not for everybody.
But but if you're if like I keepsaying, if you're sick or fat,
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like just try it. You can, you can get over the
variety in in order to improve your health and and well-being
for a little bit. But yeah, eating the same thing
every day is. It's liberating.
I feel like it's deliberate a problem with that.
Yeah. You don't have to think about
it. You just wake up in the morning
and you're like, all right, let me make my breakfast.
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I know how to do it. It's dumb.
Simple to make. And then you have the same thing
at dinner. You improve your workflow.
You just get better at all the little parts of preparing it.
And it just becomes it becomes your thing.
And I've grown very fond of justeating meat and eggs.
It's. I love simplicity.
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Yeah. So that's it's.
I, I, I'm the same and I'm the same in that way too.
Like I, I like my meals to be simple, effective and efficient.
And I don't mind eating the samething over and over and over
again. And this kind of leads me into
my next question because you were talking about your wife,
who's similar to my wife. I do all the meal prep in the
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house on Sunday. I'm meal prep.
I put on my Instagram stories like I'm grilling, I'm cooking
in the kitchen all day long. I cook her food or kids food, my
food for the week on the big meal prepper.
But she needs variety. She is like the opposite of me.
She cannot eat the same thing over and over and over again.
So how do you balance like the family side of things, kids
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cooking, even the budget with maintaining carnivore meals,
especially when maybe not everyone in the house eats the
same way that you do? Yeah, so that is a very good
question and it's one of the biggest struggles.
I'm not going to lie to you and I'm not going to sit here and
say, hey, I got this all figuredout.
But I will talk tell you about some things that we've noticed
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and improvements that we've made.
So I'm on carnivore, nobody elsein my family is.
We typically choose a meat to make for dinner and that is the
main course, right. So if we're having ground beef
on Taco night, we have, we do Taco Tuesday, I make the ground
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beef, I eat the ground beef and a few eggs.
And then the ground beef that's there is just goes in a tortilla
with whatever else they want. And we just, we just kind of
keep repeating that same processwhere it's like, OK, so we want
to have chicken tonight. Cool, make the chicken, I eat
the chicken and maybe some eggs and then they have the chicken
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with whatever sides they want and that can be frozen
vegetables, mashed potatoes, anykind of thing.
We just we pretty much just set it up where the meat that we're
making is the main course and then everybody else in the
family can kind of add sides to it.
And my wife will also just everynow and then make a A1 pot meal
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of something that they can have and they enjoy all of that.
And then I just make steak and eggs because it's really simple
to make steak and eggs. Oh if you have a family you just
have to almost make 2 dinners sometimes or just split it up
properly. But like choosing a meet as the
main course and then letting them add whatever sides they
want has been working. Interesting.
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Yeah, we're kind of the same way.
I'll operate the same way like on usually after the week on a
Friday will grill something up, whether it's, you know, maybe
some meat or we'll do you like tacos a lot or put some shrimp
on a barbecue and do the whole Taco thing.
But you know, you can find a wayto like eat carnivore doing
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that. Like I don't necessarily have to
have like the tortillas or whatever the case is.
You know, you can you can find away to make it work.
It just, it takes a little bit of work, you know?
Yeah, it does. It's you're, you're cooking at
home, which a lot of people justdon't even do because it takes a
lot of work. There's no way around that.
If you're, if you're going to eat healthy, you have to have
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some level of preparing food at home and learn to enjoy it and
figure out how it works in your family.
Because I, I mean, I, I, you can, a million people can
probably prove me wrong on this.But if you're getting
prepackaged frozen stuff, it's it's processed like most of the
time you can probably find stuffhealthy.
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But like the best way to make sure you know what you're
getting in your body is is to cook at.
Home Oh dude, I was talking to so I had Maria Emmerich on the
podcast and I don't know if you're familiar with her at all,
but she has she's she's like shemakes all she's I think she's
written like 20 different books on keto recipes, carnivore
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recipes, low carb recipes, and you make all your and we were
talking about and just cooking at home.
Even if you're not carnivore. If people just started cooking
their own food rather than goingout to dinner, ordering DoorDash
or Uber eats and getting some crap food that's cooked in a
bunch of crap with a whole bunchof ingredients that to be honest
with you, you don't really know what's in there to make the
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taste good food taste good. It's going to be probably going
to have a bunch of like MSG, seed oils and a whole bunch of
other shit. Like if you just start cooking
your own food at home you will by default become healthier and
probably just lose weight, even if it wasn't carnivore.
Absolutely. If you just eat Whole Foods,
that if you go get vegetables and meats and what like anything
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that's a real food, like you're going to be healthier.
You will see a lot of the same benefits from as you would on
the carnivore diet just by eating Whole Foods.
And a lot of people, you know, will argue that like, yeah,
that's actually the best way to go.
And I'm like, yeah, like do that.
I just prefer eating neaten eggsbecause that's where.
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Why I feel best 100%. I kind of wanted to go back into
not necessarily like the family dynamic, but we were talking
about this a little bit earlier,you know, cheating on at an
event or when something an experience, right?
How do you deal with cravings ormaybe like social pressures when
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you are dining out with your wife or the family and you're
trying to do strict carnivore? Do you have any strategies or
whenever you guys go out, are you typically like I'm just
going to eat the food here or are you usually going into that
scenario trying to stay on track?
Like how do you deal with just like normal dining out in
general when it's maybe not a special occasion?
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Right, so if we're just going going out to eat for no real
reason, not a special occasion, the best tip I can give every
anybody is just ask for shit that's not on the menu because
you're not going to go to every restaurant and they're and
they're going to have like a ready made carnivore meal for
you. But you can actually look on the
menu and pick out sides a la carte that are completely
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carnivore. And a perfect story I have for
you is I went to a restaurant inHarrisburg, PA.
The cheapest thing on the menu was like 24 bucks.
My wife got it 24 bucks. She had her meal.
It was happy and she it was a very small meal.
And I said hey, what do I got todo to get like maybe just four
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over easy eggs and like 2 side orders of bacon.
And they were like oh OK yeah wecan do that. 14 bucks.
I got 4 over easy eggs and six gigantic strips of 6 of thick
cut bacon for for half the priceof my wife's like little meal
with like scallops and rice and stuff.
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So like there's that. Happens at a lot of restaurants
too. You can get sides and have a
complete carnivore meal when it's not on the menu.
You just ask for it. Yeah.
Here's here's the problem I run into when I eat out because
probably similar to you, I eat alot of food when I eat I'm A2
meal a day guy. And so when we got and this,
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this happened when my mom was visiting us, we went out to
dinner at a nice restaurant and,you know, I was looking at some
of these dishes and it was like for sea bass, it was 60 bucks
for a plate of sea bass. And whatever was else on there,
it was mashed potatoes and it tried, they came out all fancy.
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But my biggest question to the person is like, how many ounces
is the sea bass, right. Because like, yeah, exactly.
It's it's, it's a joke basically.
And so a lot of times what I have to do to be honest with you
is I'll, I'll eat some food before I go to dinner.
Like I'll have two dinner, like I'll have to eat food and then I
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will go to dinner with the family and then I'll eat dinner
there. And to some people that might
sound ridiculous, but I'm, I mean, I'm sorry, the the food
that you get out a lot of restaurants, it's just not
enough food. Now, if you're going to a steak
place and you don't care about money and you're going to, you
know, buy like the tomahawk rib eye, yeah, sure, you're going to
have enough food. But like I just, the issue I run
into is it's just not enough food and I'm still hungry.
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And then if I'm still hungry at dinner, you know, if kids get
dessert, then I'm crushing on that.
But it's like, you know, that that's my main problem.
But the other thing here is I feel like you're going to and
you're going to like a normal like let's call it like a burger
place. I'll always double up on the
meat. So like if I get like a burger,
maybe I'll ask it for a bun list.
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But I'll ask even though I do have to pay extra, I would
rather pay extra and get like another Patty or two more
patties then eat the burger and still be hungry and then crushed
a bunch of other crap that I know is going to make me feel
like trash. Like what are your thoughts on
nose trash I. Mean, I think, yeah, I mean,
you're, you're, you're asking for more of what you actually
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want, right. So like, I mean, there's a
there's a million ways to go about it with a with, with a
restaurant. I just always ask for stuff that
that's that's not on the menu and just kind of build your own
meal. But yeah, like if I, if I try to
get a steak at a restaurant, which often times I do, I always
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ask for like a side of bacon instead of all that other stuff.
But the steak is still like, youknow, you get like an 8 ounce
steak and you're like, I could crush three of these.
Yeah, so. And, and it's 60 bucks.
So, yeah, when we go out to eat,I don't necessarily rely on that
experience to be my dinner. It's always like, I'm going to,
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I'm going to go enjoy myself. I'll have something I can have,
but like when I get home, I'm probably going to have to crush
more real food, right? But there is this weird thing
that, that I've noticed with thecarnivore diet, when you're
eating a lot of fatty meat regularly, your hunger level
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goes way, way down. So I, I haven't had lunch in
probably 8-8 or nine months and it gives me an hour of time back
every single day. So I just have a big gigantic
breakfast, breakfast. And that's, I'm talking like 16
ounce steak, four eggs. And then that holds me over to
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dinner. I mean, I don't even have, yeah,
I don't even have to eat dinner.Like I don't get to dinner time
and go fuck, man, I'm dying. Like I need something.
It just gives you, you're satiated, you're sustained.
So when you find yourself in oneof those situations where you're
like, man, if I get the sea bass, I'm going to get 4 ounces
of fish and maybe something elseI can have with it.
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But like it's a tiny amount of food for what I really need.
Like that's it. It's it's easier to get through
that because you're not starving.
Oh man, I'll so one I, I will tell you this, the one of the
main reasons why I'm driven to these like low carb carnivore
ish eating strategies. It's it's mainly because you're
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so damn full. You're not thinking about food
and your day doesn't revolve around food like.
Exactly. Yeah, and, and, and you said
something about like that's you get an hour back in your time.
That's what I was saying earlier, that a lot of these
diets are liberating. Really.
They're the reason why they're liberating is like like, yes,
it's just the simplicity of I know what I'm going to eat
tonight. But also too, you're just not
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constantly thinking about food. Your life doesn't revolve around
food. You get so much of your freaking
time back because because you'rejust not hungry because you ate
something that was nutritious and had a bunch of protein and
had a bunch of fat or amino acids in it that gave you real
nutrients. So you don't need to eat
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multiple times throughout the day.
That is, that was, in my opinion, one of the best parts
about being on a diet like this.Is it just your Your day just
doesn't revolve around food. Right.
And it's like so many, I go backto the times when when I wasn't
on carnivore and like 12:00 would roll around and I'd be
like, what am I having for lunch?
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Oh, I got to go figure that out.And then your, your brain just
goes into food mode and there's so many obstacles that like
people just hurdle without even realize they're hurling those
all the time. Like if you forget to pack your
lunch, like you're kind of screwed.
Now you got to eat out. Where you going to go?
How far of a drive is it? How long is that going to take?
Will I get stuck in traffic and get back to the office on time?
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There's so many like pitfalls with it.
And when I stopped having to have lunch, I was just like,
how, how does how does nobody else want that?
Like, if you didn't have to eat lunch ever again in your life,
you would save, I mean, an hour a day at least of your life.
Like, how many hours is that in a lifetime that you just get
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back where you're not searching for, trying to find food and
then eating something in your car that you probably shouldn't
have because, like, where where are you going to get healthy
food out there? I mean, everything that's
advertised as healthy is probably not that healthy.
Yeah. Like, how many times have have
people just eaten Chipotle in their car?
And it's just like, man, Chipotle is delicious.
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But if you didn't have to have Chipotle, like you would just
get so much. You'd be so much more efficient
as a human. Oh yeah, 100% yeah.
It's it's probably one of the best.
The the one of the best positives about being on a
carnivore diet or carnivore ish diet is just the satiation, not
constantly thinking about food. I agree with you, man.
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And what's wild is dude, we're, we're, we're almost up here on
time and I want to be respectfulof what you got going on for the
rest of your day. I've got some rapid fire
questions. But before we go into the rapid
fire. So I do the rapid fire questions
with a lot of the guests at the end of the the podcast before
you wrap up. But I know obviously we've been
talking about the carnivore dietfor the majority of the podcast.
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Like what do you think people misunderstand the most about
carnivore in your opinion? That it's expensive, I think, I
think it's not as expensive as everybody assumes it is.
And it's because you're not spending so much money on the
other stuff. I would, I would challenge
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anybody to to look at their monthly statement and see how
much money they spent on food out and then compare that to if
could they have bought a Chuck roll or a big old rib eye and
made a bunch of steaks? Probably.
So I think that's it. Yeah, that's a good one.
All right, so for the first rapid fire question, what's the
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biggest lie people believe aboutthe carnivore diet that drives
you crazy? I don't know if there's a lie.
I don't know. Are there lies about it?
I think the biggest lie is like,you're going to die.
You're not going to die. Like nobody's died from the
carnivore diet. Everybody's like you're going
to, your cholesterol is going togo through the roof and you're
going to die. Never happens.
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What do you say? What do you?
Typically when? When people leave comments like
that, I'm sure, I mean, I'm sureyou've got a lot of followers.
You'll probably get comments from that like that from time to
time, probably from some crazy vegan people.
But what do you typically what? How do you typically respond
when you do get a comment like that about cholesterol?
I I just respond honestly, like my cholesterol.
I haven't gotten my blood work done.
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I was going to ask you. I was going to ask you about
blood work. Yeah, I I actually have it
scheduled to do soon, but I knowfor a fact my cholesterol is
going to be high and that is naturally going to be that way
because you're eating so many fats and proteins.
However, like I follow Sean Baker and Ken Berry and just
studies that they're doing is like high cholesterol when
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you're on carnivore is not unhealthy.
It's not unsafe. It's just the way your body
reacts to being on this diet, your brains made out of
cholesterol like and fats like. So it's just it.
The misconception is when you eat carnivore diet, your blood
work's going to go crazy. It's going to clog up your veins
and you're going to die. But that is just not true.
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It actually clears up your veinsall the all the vein things like
that's from like the vegan diet.And I'm not hating on vegans at
all, but like a lot of that stuff is what happens with that
diet. There's no, there's nobody's
ever had any kind of super Mal effects from eating, eating
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meat. It's just not.
It's not out there. It's not real.
Yeah, and there's there's some good people out there doing
research on cholesterol. Are you familiar at all with
Dave Feldman? I haven't, no.
I haven't followed him too much so.
He, he, he's an engineer that actually studies cholesterol.
So a lot, a lot of the engineersare pretty good at figuring out
like I think he has a website called the cholesterol code, but
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he does all these crazy experiments on himself.
But in it. But a lot of the engineers that
I've spoken with and just in terms of like diet, the human
body, right? Because they have like a
system's brain and the, and the body kind of works a lot like
like a system, right? And so he's got some good stuff
on cholesterol. If just for the listeners out
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there, if they want more information on cholesterol or
Dave Feldman, I think his website ischolesterolcode.com,
he's got a lot of good like crazy, all these different
studies that he's done on cholesterol and he does all
these different studies with olive oil and meat and all that
type of stuff. But anyways, what I was going to
say was going back to what you were saying about the blood
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marker stuff and cholesterol specifically.
Your body, like your body makes cholesterol and then what
happens is if your body senses that you have cholesterol coming
in through the diet, your body'sgoing to lower that cholesterol
down. Like it's going to stop making
it if it senses you're bringing it in.
So the cool thing about the human body, it has all these
like self regulating feature that come along with it to kind
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of protect you, you know? But yeah, cholesterol is like a
critical hormone, you know? Yeah.
OK. If someone had just 20 bucks to
spend on carnivore meals for theweek, what would you tell them
to buy? Ground beef, 20 bucks.
Go get yourself some ground beefmaybe maybe a carton of eggs and
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mix that up. Add salt to it and you're good
to go. If you if you eat ground beef
and eggs your carnivore you're going to be just fine and just
get the fatty stuff. Get the 8020, not the 93.7.
Yeah, I well and and I actually go for the leaner side sometimes
when things are too fatty. I'm I'm, I'm heading for the
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bathroom. But the one thing I do like
about just getting like packagedground ground beef that comes in
like the 1 LB bricks, it's like you can just pop plop that into
a pan. It takes like 5-7 minutes to
just, I cook it on a wok. I just stir it up, throw in the
spices, whatever, salt, pepper or whatever it is.
And like, dude, it's, it's a pound of meat.
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Like a pound of meat is really satiating.
It's going to have, you know, almost 100 grams of protein,
depending on how lean it is, 5040 grams of fat or more than
that. But like it's a solid meal to
get a bunch of protein and for sure, and it's super easy to
make. Oh.
Yeah, ground ground beef is yoursaving grace if you're if you're
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starting carnivore on a super budget.
Yeah, what's what's the hardest part about eating carnivore that
nobody talks about? Oh, just your surroundings, the
people that you're around, the temptations, you know, sea and
cheese. It's in my freaking cabinet
every day. Like that's that's the hardest
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part. Like just just being able to to
stick with it because you live. We live in a world of complete
temptation. We are does everything around us
is designed to get us to screw up and do something we shouldn't
do. Like that.
Yeah, yeah. Just just the temptations all
the time, just right there in your face.
What's 1 carnivore Food people think is healthy but you'd never
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touch being on the carnivore. Diet, carnivore, food that
people think is healthy but I would never touch.
I don't know. Well, I know I don't.
I don't. Know that there is a carnivore
food, like a carnivore diet approved food that isn't
healthy. I probably I wouldn't touch
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milk. I don't drink milk, but a lot of
people have issues with dairy. It's it's made for babies like
milk is for babies. So that's probably the thing
that I would say I don't, I don't do.
Yeah. And just to twist that question
up a little bit, one, the one thing that I wish I could eat,
but there there's there's two things.
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One is anchovies. They're really healthy for you.
I can't do them like they can't.The canned sardines, the canned
sardines that people will take down.
I I can't do it. You'll never catch me eating
sardines either. And the same.
And honestly, I hate saying it, but liver, I have tried so many
times. I don't know if you've ever
tried going the liver route or figuring out ways to cook it.
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I've tried so many ways to cook liver man.
It's just every time I eat it and I know it's it's so healthy
for you. It every time I put it in my
mouth, it feels like my body, ifmy body is telling me don't eat
this. Basically, it's so hard to take
down. Have you ever?
Have you tried liver? Yes, so I have had the same
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struggles as you. I, I can't just eat a liver and
just call that dinner. But what I've noticed I'm able
to do is if you kind of treat itlike a supplement or like a
medicine, you can cook a little piece of liver with your steak
and eggs or whatever and then just pick up a piece of steak,
maybe some egg yolk and just choke that piece of liver down.
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If that makes you feel better about getting more nutrients and
stuff in there and do that everynow and then.
You're you're good to go. Yeah, but you won't catch me.
Just. Hey, what's for dinner?
Liver. That's it.
Yeah, no way, No way. I and I've tried, I've tried a
couple other things because I know it's so good for you.
So over the past, like I've tried cutting it up into chunks
and just swallowing it, like just just tossing it back with a
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glass of water or something and just doing it in small little
chunks. Also what I've done is cut it up
and wait it out and like made made basic like little pills.
And then you freeze them. And I made like bags of frozen
liver pills, like with real liver.
And then I would take them out and I would like throw them in
my mouth and swallow it like a pill.
And it would just be like takinga pill.
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That's the only way I found thatI can do it.
Like cooking it, eating it normal like it is.
My mom makes liver and onions and I'm like can't do it.
Can't do. It yeah, I mean, dude, the way
the way that you've described that is probably what, what I
would start doing because like I, I choose to take creatine.
Yeah. And a lot of people dump
creatine and they swirled aroundand drink it.
I freaking hate that I dry scoopit.
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You dry scoop. Creatine.
Oh yeah, dude. I take a little bit of water, I
put it in my mouth. I scoop A creatine, I go wash it
down with a little bit, shake myhead and just like mix it around
in my mouth and I swallow it andit's it's like it was never even
in there. I don't even taste it or.
Nothing. Is it flavored or is yours
flavored or unflavored? Completely unflavored that I I
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would I would assume that would be like taking in a mouthful of
chalk. Yeah, it actually dissolves.
You got to get the, the, the sugar, the consistency.
That's sugar. That's the best creatine to
dissolve. If you get the like the real
powdery stuff, that's what I got.
That sucks. Yeah.
But if you get I, I do Optimum Nutrition micronized creatine
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and it's like the sugar consistency and that's what I
take. And it's dry scooping is so much
easier than than than it seems. Yeah, good to know.
Good to know. Well, Ben, I mean this, this has
been awesome. Before we start wrapping up
here, like anything new coming up for you that you want to
touch on? Like anything crazy going on
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with work or Instagram? Man, I don't know.
I think I'm just like, I think I'm trying to figure out how I
can make a bigger impact in thisspace.
And there's so many million things to do.
Like what's the end goal? Who knows?
But I do notice that meat pricesare going way up like way.
Up I saw your post. I noticed your post the other
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day on that. It was wild.
Yeah, and it's, it's kind of depressing because that's a
super easy reason for people to be like, I'm going to eat less
meat now. I just can't afford it.
And that sucks. And I think there's, there's
some things that I want to do later in life where I, I want to
start making content or videos or something asking questions on
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how we can solve that problem inthe world.
Because I, I'm not a super smartguy, but I do know that all of
the companies like General Millsand Kellogg's and companies like
that have this huge demand. They're selling a lot of
products. Therefore, they were able to
build an infrastructure to get this product to people at a
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very, very low cost. And I think the meat industry is
just a little bit behind on thatbecause it's not as huge of a
demand because of all the research that was demonizing it
for such a long time. And I kind of want to take that
and reverse it and start, start knocking down cornfields and
putting in paddle fields somehow.
I mean, I want to, I want to be able to throw my hat in the
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ring, not necessarily become a rancher because I don't know if
that's really something I can feasibly do.
But to to be able to invest in that somehow and figure out a
way to get meat out to people atat a price that's affordable or
make some sort of impact in the infrastructure space.
Like, that's my big like sun goal.
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That's like it's way out there. I don't know if we'll ever get
there, but yeah, I believe in this way of eating so much that
I would definitely go down that route and investigate how to
figure that. Out Well, I hope you do it man.
You'll have a supporter and somesomeone over here rooting for
you man. So if you end up going that
route, keep us updated, make posts about it.
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I hope that's something that youdo because that would be cool.
Awesome man. Well I appreciate you having me
dude. This has been a blast.
Yeah, it's been a blast. So where can people find you
online and get in contact with you?
All of that stuff or follow you?You can just yeah, you can go to
Instagram, TikTok, Facebook, then dot dials I think is my
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handle and and you know, I have a a link tree and stuff.
You guys can check that out. I'm trying to build a a store
with like vetted carnivore products in it that I actually
know like and trust and use and then, yeah, trying to just throw
the space. So just find me online.
That's where I live. Yeah, and not to worry, I'll I
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can drop all that stuff in the show notes so people know like
where to find you and follow youand and all that good stuff.
So I got you covered there and thanks guys for listening to the
Low Carb Consultant podcast. We'll catch you guys on the next
one.