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All right, guys, we're rolling. So today we're joined on the Low
Carb Consultant podcast by BrettJames, better known to her
followers as Health Edit by Brett.
A passionate meat based nutrition advocate and real food
coach, Britt has transformed hergut health, built lean muscle
and boosted vitality through an animal first approach and
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targeted strength training, which I love.
And we'll talk about that. She's a believer in ditching
dogma and embracing what truly matters.
Britt combines nutrition, mindset and faith to guide
others towards sustainable health.
Britt, great to have you on here.
Thank you so much for joining me.
I really appreciate you making the time.
Thank you for having me, I'm so excited to be here.
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Yeah, absolutely. And maybe before we jump into
all the good stuff, diet, coaching, exercise, nutrition,
you name it, can you give the listeners maybe just like a real
brief background on yourself andhow you got to this thriving
point in your life? Yes, thriving is the word,
right? It's it's been a journey which I
think a lot of us can relate to the brief.
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I've never briefed Max, but I'm going to do my best.
I no it's OK, take all the time you need.
I struggled with my weight most of my life so I was not always
the naturally thin kid, always in sports, always active, but
ate the same as my sister and mybrother and seemed to have a
little bit more of problems withwith the weight and just overall
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health. Tipping point for me was
probably in my teens. I was diagnosed with PCOS at 15
and by a very smart and curious mother that I have.
She did a lot of research and kind of diagnosed me herself and
got me into one of the best endocrinologist at the Cleveland
Clinic. And that was the first time I've
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ever had a doctor mention diet and nutrition when it came to
making a change, especially for something like hormone health.
And so I'm very grateful for these people way back in the day
that kind of opened up my eyes to these things.
I was always quote UN quote dieting.
I would say someone didn't say in a Safeway luckily young,
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because I had my my mom and my dad that were always just aware.
But you know, we only knew what we knew back then.
We it was a very traditional household of, you know, lower
fat and low calorie everything we had like the remember, like
the 100 calorie snack pack snacks and things like that in
the house. And so I will say we were doing
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the best we had with or best we could with what we had, right.
So Fast forward, my first glimpse with low carb was
through a nutritionist at the Cleveland Clinic actually put me
on a protein spurring modified fast diet.
Very good. Very.
Cool. Long age and so I was fast and
furious into understanding ketosis and checking my urine
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ketones back then. I was in my late teens, early
20s at this point. I had massive success.
I was like a poster child for this program at the Cleveland
Clinic. And then I lost the weight and
quickly wanted to go back. And I say be normal like
everyone else and start eating the same stuff that I used to
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eat. And I gained it all back and
more. And I've done that three times
in my life. And so yes, every single time it
was time to get healthy. And I will say with that, all
the symptoms of PCOS had reversed with my weight loss.
And they all came back with the weight gain along with the
insulin resistance, the A1C, youname it, triglycerides and
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everything else. So here I am.
Fast forward, I'd say 28 was themagic year that I said enough
was enough. I was done with these diets and
I knew it was going to need to be a lifestyle shift at that
point. Found keto, keto turned to
ketovore, turned to carnivore and now I say I'm maybe
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carnivore. And Jason and lost 90 lbs.
I've kept most of it off. I had a little bit of a regain
in the past year that we could probably talk about.
But overall it's definitely lifestyle and I feel my best
when I eat this way. Yeah, no, that, that's, that's
crazy to hear. So going back to maybe a little
bit of the, the yo-yo dieting stuff there a little bit.
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So you were doing a lot of, and I've had Craig Emmerich on.
I'm sure you know Craig Emmerichand Maria Emmerich.
She's actually coming on the podcast I think here next month.
But fantastic people. And I feel like, you know, I was
talking to him about protein sparing modified fasting because
I, I almost feel like they coined the term, but like it, it
existed long before I think theycame up with that, that
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phrasing. So you were doing some protein
sparing modified fasting, but you weren't necessarily keto
yet. But you, what would happen is
you would go back to your traditional or old ways of
eating and then the weight wouldcome back a little bit.
Is that is that kind of what wasgoing on?
Totally. I'm, I'm queen, Yeah.
Of all or nothing mindset. And so I was sitting in there in
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the doctor's office with the nutritionist at the Cleveland
Clinic, and they said, so how would you describe yourself an
all or nothing mindset? And I was like, absolutely.
Like, I was proud. You know, you say that this is
who I am. And, and, and you're exactly
right. I didn't know of Maria Emmerich
or Craig Emmerich. This was about, oh goodness, 17
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years ago. And so this was quite a while.
I since have all Maria's cookbooks, by the way, right
back here, and I've researched them extensively.
So all I knew about keto was ketones at this point, because
they did have me testing my ketones and the protein spraying
modified fast that they put me on.
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It was a temporary solution. I was monitored by doctors.
I got blood work done monthly and it was an aggressive weight
loss for sure. I was eating very lean protein,
super low fat and virtually very, very low carb.
I had some trace carbs in there too, very low calorie.
So it is a traditional, but it was a, we'll call it a medical
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grade, protein sparing quantified fast.
I've since dabbled with PSMS through Maria Emmerich and
Craig's resources. That still does really well for
me. I don't do it quite like I used
to with the Cleveland Clinic, but yeah, same idea.
So I was measuring ketones and everything and I had no idea
what keto was. Yeah, that's so funny.
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And I like, I definitely want toswitch into, you know, cuz I
know you also mentioned keto, ketovore, carnivore, like all
these little diet transitions, which I feel like I had a lot of
the same, you know, when I, I used to own a gym and then I
went into the corporate world, got married, had kids, got fat
That, that that happened to me. So 2017, 20/17/2018 I kind of
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went on my own journey and I feel like it's the same for a
lot of people. You start dabbling in one thing,
it works. And then you try this, you know,
and you kind of make your way through the different, the
different diets as if you want to call them that, you know, to
kind of ultimately find whatever, whatever does work for
you. I was curious then, so how do
you like what, what is a, what is a day in eating look like for
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you now? Like what is your day-to-day
look like? Yeah, I'll definitely share
that. You know, it's funny though, I
will say for a long time, I loveto say that I'm not dogmatic
because I'm not anymore, but I definitely was in the beginning
because you know what, I think it is just by nature, humans
want to belong. We want to belong to a tribe,
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you know. And so I've got thoughts on
this. I've got thoughts on this for
sure. Yeah.
And I think in the beginning it was this low carb community in
this ketogenic, and then I foundcarnivore for different reasons,
more so food addiction, food noise, those types of things.
I wasn't into the carnivore realm for chronically ill like I
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know a lot of people find it through that and it helped me so
much for my own things I was seeking, but it wasn't quite
that purpose. And and I went very dogmatic.
My husband hates the term carnivore and he's like, he's
like a carnivore. Yeah.
It's like a little carb at nightto make him tired basically.
But he hates the dogmatic everything.
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He was like, please, like you'renot a carnivore.
You like to eat meat. This is what we should be
eating, you know. So it's just funny that I, I
don't, I don't knock anyone who's, you know, claims to be
with us or the other, but I knowthrough coaching women of all
different ages, different goals in mind, that isn't
one-size-fits-all. And I, I've had to learn that
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for myself also humbly. And so that was sort of like the
background with that. But now these days I let's see
what am I eating today? I I had ground beef so grass fed
ground beef with two eggs, an avocado for lunch and I'll
probably do a smoothie later. I love equip personally, like a
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beef isolate. I love equip not to plug
anything. Yeah, I got.
It not, not not to plug anything, but I will just say
like there's only like 4 ingredients in that protein
powder and it's like there's nota paragraph.
It's like, yeah, that checks that checks all my boxes 100%.
Yeah, it does. So I definitely, I don't do
fantastic with whey and overall dairy as sadly I've learned over
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for time. But yeah, I'll do a protein
shake later with some collagen, some colostrum.
And for dinner I have a rib eye that I'll make and sometimes a
little asparagus if I feel like a vegetable.
I kind of eat seasonally. So you know, if something's in
season, I kind of stay away fromfruit and fructose.
I don't seem to do great with that, but love a salad's like my
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cheat meal. It's like a Caesar salad.
It's like one of my favorite things, like a great steakhouse,
you know. So that will be sort of
something I But yeah, I like some.
I kind of stay away from nightshades, high oxalate
vegetables, and for the most part I do pretty well with
everything else so. Very cool.
No, and, and, and, and going back to what you were saying
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earlier, you know, about being dogmatic about some of these
diets. And, you know, I've had the, the
honor to, to interview some pretty fantastic people,
including yourself. And, and I think going back to
what you were saying, that's what that's what happens a lot
with these little, with these little communities.
What happens is I feel like people find something that
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works, right, It works. And then they become slightly
religious about it, right? And what I think, and you were
going, you were talking about this earlier about women.
Women need different things. Humans need different things.
Different people need different things.
What also people need to take into consideration is, you know,
your body changes. Your body five years ago is not
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the same body. You had like your cells turn
over. You're going to have different
muscle mass. You know what I mean?
Like you're you're kind of a different person than you were
five years ago. And So what you have to be able
to do, and this is kind of how Ilook at a lot of these low carb
diets in general, This is why I made the low carb consultant
handle on Instagram is because I've tried keto, I've done
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carnivore, I've done intermittent fasting, I've done
OMAD, I've done protein sparing modified fast.
But what I found was I kind of flexed these different eating
options throughout the week. And what that does is it gives
me a lot of sustainability because the big thing people
will say like, oh, you got to eat carnivore.
And I was like, well, you know, you don't have to, right?
Like I completely understand some people have to eat that way
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because of like chronic disease and illness that they have, like
Michaela Peterson, for instance,and Jordan Peterson, Michaela,
Michaela Peterson specifically. But some people have to eat that
way because they've got chronic issues that they're dealing
with, you know, and that's just like, that's their life, you
know, that's how they have to doit.
But you know, you can kind of flex and leverage these diets
throughout the week that kind ofcreates that long term
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sustainability that people are looking for.
But you also like can stay away from being like religious about
anyone specific diet because it's like, you know, I'm not
trying to be like tied to 1 diet.
I know I'm going to change my interests are going to change my
hobbies are going to change my activity.
Like I might want to train for like another half marathon or
marathon that's going to requirea different type of energy input
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right then then I might be doingnow.
And I think people just got to remember that, you know, you can
leverage all these different lowcarb options to get the body
composition that you want, but also feel the way that you want.
What are your thoughts on that? I love that.
I think that's really well said.And I was really drawn to your
account being the low carb consulting because I feel like
it's rare that you hear just lowcarb these days, you know, like,
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I don't know, at least maybe in the in the groups that I run in.
But you know, I think that you nailed it.
And something that I found that makes this sustainable and very
much of A lifestyle for me, which it truly is at this point
is exactly like what you said. I may arguably feel fantastic
when I'm pretty strict carnivoreif I'm being honest.
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Totally same way. Yeah, from like an inflammatory
standpoint, bloating, so many things.
But I also, I'm really deep intolike microbiome stuff right now.
And I don't know if you've looked into like Mary Ruddick,
any of her work specifically, but she studies, she's like gone
and lived with all these tribes and she studies the microbiome.
It's really fascinating. And, you know, our microbes and
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our microbiome, it's all linked to our gut health, you know, and
so, and it's not just our gut, our microbiomes, our skin, and
we have a microbiome on our nose.
I mean, you name it. So I think when I get into like
the nerdy stuff like that, it makes me excited to sort of
explore. And I've always said, even when
I was coaching and stuff with myclients is, you know, you kind
of need to have a reason why you're cutting everything out.
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Like, I think it became sort of like a rite of passage just to
be like lying diet, you know, like as strict as possible.
And to your point, I've listenedto Michaela Peterson numerous
times where she's like, I wish Ididn't have to eat this way.
Like I, I, I appreciate it and Ido because it makes me feel a
certain way. But I, she wishes she wasn't
completely bound to UN aged strip loin every single day, you
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know, and she's grateful for it cuz it makes her feel good.
But I think like, you start cutting every single thing out.
And then I've noticed for me personally and other people,
sometimes there's sometimes someproblems there that you can come
to. So I feel like the goal is to
get our body resilient, you know, and to tolerate more
variety within reason. I, I've tried to introduce carbs
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and some other things too, and logic doesn't let me go far
because I don't see oatmeal, oatmeal as a health food.
And I don't know, it's like a. It's porridge.
It's porridge. It's, it's they, they, they fed
it to the poor people and. You know, right?
I mean, when you know too much and you studied like ancestral
health, you know, you're kind oflike, I think I'm good without
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the gluten. Even the sourdough.
I, I respect it. I buy it for my husband.
He loves sourdough bread, you know, but I'm like, for me, it's
not exactly a necessity or a health food.
But I think that, like you said,when I'm in a cutting phase, I
do really well, high protein, moderate fat actually.
And I've done therapeutic ketosis and all the above and
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very low carb. I keep my carbs under 15 on
average, probably total. And that's like an extreme cut
phase if I'm like wanting to feel amazing, reduce
inflammation within a couple of days, like something like that.
And then on the weekends I increase fat and also throughout
my cycle, you know, I'm big about like women syncing goals
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to their cycle and I coach that with my clients.
And I think that that's been a huge thing that's helped me with
hormonal health and just feelinggood throughout the month.
I, I suggest men look into thosethings too.
I know my husband thinks I'm a much kinder person right before
my cycle than I used to be when I'm honoring it because, you
know, women's hormones are on a,on a monthly 30 day cycle.
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So there's a lot of things that we sometimes have to do
differently. I don't always with everything
that they preach about that, by the way, but some of it.
I do 100% and my wife, she used to be a nutritional therapy
practitioner. So the conversations in our
house about what women need and men need they, they tend to get
a little spicy, which makes, which makes things interesting.
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But I would 100% agree like thatwomen in regards to hormonal
health, their cycles and making sure everything's regulated.
Yeah, the, the fasting, the oh, the one meal a day, that type of
stuff. It's, it's probably not the best
for women. Men can do it.
Men can absolutely fast and do long term fasting and, and women
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can too. I think they got to be very
strategic about when they do it right and like what what time of
month that they're, you know, choosing to intermittent fast or
potentially going a long term fast.
But that's interesting that you say during the cycle.
So during the cycle, a women's cycle, you what you'll do is
you'll increase the fat to make sure that the hormones that
you're basically supporting the home hormones in the best way
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possible, correct? Definitely the biggest thing
that yeah, makes it so easy. And you know, I feel like
there's a lot circulating on social media right now too that
like women should never fast andit's terrible for you.
I disagree with that. I I under minute fast pretty
much every day except for when Ifeel hungry, which is usually
right before my cycle. That means my hormones are
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aligned and things are feeling good.
So I have a friend who has a completely she lost like 125
lbs. She's incredible, has kept it
off for seven years and she doesomen pretty much every single
day and she's thriving. And just works for her.
Yeah, I, I So it's like. Once and that goes back to what
we were saying earlier. Everyone's different.
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Everyone's different, including men as men as men comparing to
men and women comparing to women.
And you know, I've practiced fasting a ton, so I, I even
argue at this point. I don't think my body perceives
it as a stressor all the time. And I think that that's probably
why I can get away with doing it.
I understand left in and all of those things.
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And there's a lot of debate about that.
But again, I think it just depends on the person.
But to your point, yes, there's this big conversation about
increasing carbohydrates after like in your ludial phase with
the last half of the cycle. And the point behind that in the
to my knowledge that they've, because I've dug into this into
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the any type of research, which was not much because they always
studied men, by the way, for a very long time.
There's not a ton of research when it comes to women and
women's hormones. But you know, progesterone, you
want to rise during the luteal phase, progesterone hides when
cortisol comes out. So that's why it's always been
said, you know, increase your carbs.
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And that's why women crave carbswhere I think when we are
craving rest, restorative workouts, you're not trying to
PR during that time, more sleep.And I guess to your point, I
increased fat and I do so to take myself out of a caloric
deficit, which is a stressor. So it's more importantly not
even exactly what you're eating or needing carbs for example,
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versus just decreasing stress and what your body perceives as
stress. Got it.
And I wanted to go back to the, the gut health conversation we
were talking about earlier, because I know in social media,
you know, you've, you've credited like a shift more
towards a meat based diet with dramatically improving, you
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know, your, your gut health and helping you to build muscle.
And I want to talk about what you're doing to exercise and
work out. We can get into all that stuff,
But what would you say through that?
Like Journey was the most like the single most surprising.
Change you experienced when you embraced like this particular
way of eating that you're eatingright now.
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I have to say, depression and mental health that I didn't
quite realize that I was dealingwith.
Interesting. And that was really wild.
I've always dealt with a level of anxiety.
I think a lot of people can relate to that.
Luckily, I didn't need to be. Not that there's anything wrong
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with this but medicated or anything so forth for that.
But going throughout this journey and with at first I
thought it was just my weight loss that I just felt happier.
I was more confident, but there it wasn't that there was
something that really lifted mentally for me that made me I
think see the world in almost more color is the best way that
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I can put that it changed my faith and my relationship with
God. I know we're going deep with it,
but. That.
Is the most shocking thing that happened when I changed to just
a more meat based low carb cleaneating diet.
And interestingly, when I go offof that plan and I don't eat
like I normally do, those thingscome back in terms of just maybe
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a heaviness and short fuse, short tempered.
I know I'm not quite as patient and kind as I normally AM, and
that's been the most wild. Interesting.
Let's stay on this because I've so my wife and I, we typically
notice the exact same things andI'm curious to see from your
end, like why? What do you think it is with
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regards to what you might be eating that might change the
mood? The way that you feel, the way
the brain works? What do you think it is?
I think it's twofold. I think, you know, there is a, a
lot of us are living in massive deficiency.
And so I do think that it's massive deficiency of making our
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body and for example, our brain and everything processed the way
that it's supposed to. You know, I mean, we know that
choline, for example, is really important for brain health,
especially for babies. Brain health too, that starts in
utero utero, right? And even for us now and eggs and
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meat, it's high in choline. And so when you look at the
nutritional value of what is in meat, arguably not even grass
fed right, that you can still get these minerals and these
vitamins in meat that's more bioavailable oz for oz than you
can get from any plant food. So I think that it's massive
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deficiency, but a lot of us whenI was eating this way that
really replenished. I was never good.
I would dabble with supplements,but I was never good about
staying consistent. And you know, a supplement to me
now, I believe in supplements, Iuse them, but they're an
insurance policy. They don't do much for me or for
anyone that I've ever recommended if the foundation
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isn't there of the nutrition. So I feel like that nutrient
element of what meat provides inthe diet is so critical and I
think it changes a lot of thingsand that the number one thing is
probably inflammation. Inflammation of the brain, I
think before walking around angry and upset and ready to
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argue with everyone. It's like, look at the division
that we are dealing with, you know, in our country.
And I think that we have a very inflamed, sick population.
Oh, we. Absolutely.
Do. I mean, what is it now?
It's, I feel like these stats change all the time.
It used to be 50% of the population's overweight, then
it's 60, then it's like 5. It's like most people are
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overweight, type 1 diabetic, andobviously if they have all those
issues, they're chronically inflamed and experiencing a
bunch of other issues and conditions that they don't even
know about, you know, cuz it's just they're just walking around
like a dumpster fire. Yeah.
Yeah, the the mental health stuff I started digging pretty
deep into Georgia EADS work and Chris Palmer and they have some
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fascinating testimonies and of patients.
I mean everything from like yourscariest of scary of
schizophrenic, right, being healed from a meat based diet
all the way to what most of us, you know, how many people are
walking around, especially women, I will say on
antidepressants, on anti anxietymedication, it's majority almost
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at this point. And that's a pretty wild thing
that people are coming off of their medications.
I know so many personally. And so for me, that's very
telling when it's just diet and we're not even touching all the
environmental toxins and everything else that I'm a big
believer in as well. That's pretty miraculous, I
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think. 100%, yeah. And we can go down the
environmental toxins route. Like quality of life is
absolutely dictated. Like where you live, are you
like in a city? What type of air are you
breathing in? Office space around you, all
those like endocrine disruptors can play a huge role in just
your day-to-day life and you're not even really recognizing it,
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you know. Yeah, yeah, that's crazy.
And going back to the the dogma thing that we were talking about
earlier, because I wanted to talk about some common myths
that you see that you try to squash, you know, when you're
talking with clients or you're just talking with people in
general. But what's typically like one of
the more common myths around animal based carnivore that
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you're seeing right now in the health world that you just feel
like needs to be smashed right now?
Is it the cholesterol thing? Some people say it's other
things. I was curious to get your two
cents. Oh, yeah, I feel like I'm so far
removed from some of that stuff because I've been like such a
like a squasher of a cholesterolfor so long now.
But yeah, that's a huge 1, you know, so many people.
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I mean, the first thing to realize is that majority of
heart attack patients in the hospitals have low cholesterol
and that's been shown. And so the fact of demonizing
and fearing cholesterol is wild.And I can tell you also, I'm a
lean mass hyper responder. So the leaner I go, Oh yeah, the
leaner I go, the higher my LDL goes, the lower my triglycerides
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go, the lower my A1C, the lower my inflammation.
It's wild. And I actually had a really
interesting conversation with Sean Baker at Hacker Health last
year about this. And he was like, yeah, we're
doing this case study, and he couldn't release anything but
him. And I don't think he was a part
of it. But Dave Feldman came out.
Are you familiar with Dave Feldman?
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Yep, and he the author of the website The Cholesterol Code,
right? Yes, I believe so well and also
Fung and some of those people are part of it too, but Dave
Feldman, he was a lean mass hyper responder.
So him and I believe it's DoctorNick Norowitz who was Harvard
MD, they had that massive study of I think it was over 1000
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participants that were lean masshyper responders.
So meaning they, the leaner theygot eating a animal based low
carb ketogenic type of diet and the higher they're went and
they, I want to say I don't quote me, but it was a massive
percentage, if not 100% had a zero CAC scan.
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And so when I always tell peoplewith this, and I'll give you 1
better, this is some good tea. She won't mind me saying this.
My mom also eats this way and I'll tell you she's in her late
60s. She looks unbelievable.
She lost 30 lbs years ago, has reversed osteoporosis with this
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diet is fantastic medication. Yes, and she also does osteo
strong, which is doctor, I can'tthink of his name who started
it, but anyways, that so strength training essentially
and diet. One thing that was changing for
her was her LDL. Her LDL went up.
The doctor was concerned want toput her on a statin and she
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knows better and she's not goingto go on a statin.
And I said you need to keep eating the way that you're
eating and the night before yourthis is not medical advice, by
the way. Sure, we want to just plug that,
not medical advice. I said the night before your
blood test you need to fast, youknow, 14 hours, no more than
that and have two of Dad's cookies before you go to bed.
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And do you know that she took her blood test the next day and
dropped her LDL 100 points? No way.
Have you heard about the Oreo cookie test?
No. Tell, tell.
Tell me about it. Tell me.
About it, oh boy, Doctor Norwitzdid this whole case study not
case study this whole Enigl's one experiment on himself with
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Oreo cookies. And so he intentionally raised
his LDL, which he knows how to do with the carnivore diet,
which is basically how I think he eats, like a ketogenic.
And then he lowered it over the course of 30 days.
And he would do the blood markers.
I don't know how often he did them, but with Oreo cookies is
the only thing that lowered the LDL.
It's pretty fascinating. But that's crazy, I never heard
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of that. So that's what I say about
cholesterol. Cholesterol is it's the only
cook in the kitchen, you know, with that, and I think people
get all up in arms. I'm way more interested in
triglycerides. I'm way more interested in HDL
and that ratio too of overall metabolic health and CRP, you
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know, A1C what, What's your glucose doing?
Fasting insulin that no one everwants to test.
I think it's one of the most important health markers to get
checked. So yeah, cholesterol I I find
irrelevant. I get nervous when I see LDL
dropping too much to be honest. It's very protective.
Interesting. And while we're on the topic of
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all these different, you know, markers, cholesterol, you know,
and I know you, you, you, you coach a lot of people and so we
can kind of get into that as well.
But at what point do you feel like for some people diet, it's
is not enough? Like when a low carb approach or
a carnivore approach isn't enough?
How do you know when someone I guess, needs to go beyond just
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the diet and maybe incorporate exercise or something else in
regards to moving the needle? I think it's a great question
and I have two answers for it. I've worked primarily with a lot
of very obese people and very overweight.
I myself have lost 90 lbs. I've worked with clients who've
lost up to 200 lbs. And so with that diet is
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everything now. And, and I say that because I
think it's really important. And I say that for a lot of
people, you know, if you're immobile, if you are addicted to
junk food, you know, those things there's we get in our
head when we first start out. And, and I think this is pretty
universal for most people. When you're first starting out,
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just get the diet right. You know, like just get
breakfast, right. Like, I think that that is like
so critical because what I find is people want to add in so much
at once, they get overwhelmed and then the first thing to slip
when they get overwhelmed is their diet.
And so conversely, in order to lose weight and sustain that
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weight loss and to change body composition, that diet can't
slip until we build enough muscle mass that maybe you have
a little bit more flexibility there, which takes a long time,
you know, for a lot of people. Now on the other side, when we
have 2530 lbs to lose, or for mepersonally, when I was about
halfway through, I lost maybe the 1st 30 lbs seamlessly with
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just diet. Then the scale starts moving as
quick. So that's when I think
lifestyle. When I was doing my coaching, I
have different pillars of health.
It was an acronym. Let's see if I can remember it.
Simple is what it was and it wasnot just food.
So it was sleep. I think sleep is so critical and
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something we really miss. Intermittent fasting told you
I'm a big fan of the of the fasting even for women.
Let's see, movement was another one.
Prioritized protein. I'm big about high protein
approach and there's different variations when it comes up for
ketogenic. But for me personally, I always
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coach high protein, keto, limiting carbs and environment.
I think environments also reallycritical.
Yeah, I'm a big fan of the high protein approach.
And it was funny, I just posted a podcast yesterday with Kenner
Shock. He's a huge fitness influencer,
dude consults with clients on diet.
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And he was just like, yeah, man,if you just eat more protein,
you will eat less calories from fat and carbs by default.
You know what I mean? So I think with people, and we
were talking about protein spared modified fasting at the
very beginning, especially for people who are obese or have a
ton of weight to lose, just switching to higher protein can
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literally change the game and then move the needle until, you
know, eventually they're going to they plateau and then they're
going to make maybe another little shift or change or
whatever. But just going high protein,
yeah, can completely change the game.
Thermogenic, right? So it's like, you know, you're
burning calories just digesting protein, which people don't even
realize, you know? And also when you have so much
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excess body fat, you have energy.
That's energy on your body that you can use.
And I really love Maria and Craig Emmerich's work about this
because, you know, going back tothe Mythbusters, cholesterol is
one. Another really big one is
falling into the high fat. Let's talk about this.
Keto. Let's talk about this.
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This is a this is a big one. This is a big one, yeah.
Jenny Mitish is a friend of mineand I was on her channel
recently and we were talking about it and she was like,
you're going to get backlash forthis and I'm OK with it because
it is a massive disservice. I have had very few clients that
have been successful eating, nottracking and eating however much
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fat they want. Very few.
And I can tell you tell you the ones that have been successful
with that had other things goingon, massive autoimmune
conditions and problems. And so I heard Vanessa Spina,
ketogenic girl, she's say on a podcast and I think she worded
it really great for women, especially if you were trying to
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heal something, a high fat ketogenic approach is probably
the answer for you. And I think where people get
this wrong when it comes to highfat carnivore too, there are
very few people that are coaching this correctly because
maintaining ketosis, eating specifically carnivore is very
hard for a lot of people becauseof the protein.
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So you have to really learn how to have your ratios that you can
maintain a state of ketosis. I know one person in the space
that's coaches that very well and that's about it.
And I only know because Maria talks about all the time and
other people that are going, I've had them too, coming from
other groups having gained weight and not feeling, you
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know, successful at all. I get messages all the time of
saying, like, I've been carnivores for six months.
I can't get the spiel to move, you know, like, so discouraged.
And I think we are massively overeating fat for most of us
and exceeding that threshold. And when you get those, you
know, find that balance for yourself, it does become easy.
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You don't need AGLP 1, You know,I mean, it's pretty seamless,
but it's a personal fat threshold too.
And so you got to figure out what that is.
Oh my God, yeah. It's crazy that that we're
talking about this because so I had, I was able to have on
Doctor Kilt a handful of weeks ago and one of his, one of his
reels about this went went absolutely crazy.
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And then I had Craig Emmerich onas well when we were chatting
about this. But here's what's wild about
what Craig was saying. He was like especially
especially for women who are like inactive and again, not
medical advice, but especially for women who are inactive that
have weight to lose high fat carnivore is not the way to go.
He he was telling me they have hundreds of case studies of
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clients coming in from the high fat carnivore space or way of
eating. I guess you could say that are
gain like he he had. He said he had multiple women
gain weight on high fat carnivore blood markers and came
in like insulin resistant, right?
And completely screwed up blood markers across the board.
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But they're just taking in too much fat.
And I think what people need to realize is carbohydrates and fat
are energy sources. Like yes, if we drop the carbs,
OK, then we can, we can use fat as fuel.
That's correct. But if you have too much fat
coming into the diet, the body, why?
This is what I think people needto understand.
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If you have too much fat coming into the body, why would your
body want to tap into stored body fat as an energy source?
Your body, yeah, your body wantsto use that for from from an
evolutionary standpoint, your body's going to use that for
protection. If your body is sensing so many
calories coming in from fat, whywould it tap into stored body
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fat? It's going to use the fat that
you're eating as a fuel source. You'll never tap into stored
body fat. And that's why people plateau
1000%. Yes, and I, I wanted to finish
that thought on Vanessa's fina because she said if you're
trying to heal something, go go keto like actual ketogenic,
which again is hard if you're trying to build something,
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you're trying to build a baby pregnancy or muscle and AKA if
you want to lose body fat, you want to build muscle, go high
protein. Like those are your two options.
There's a place for both of themand you'll appreciate this.
I had I was at meat stock. OK, this.
Are you familiar with Meat stock?
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This past May and I was in a vanwhich I probably am so lucky to
even be in this van, but Courtney Luna is one of my good
friends. Yeah, I think I saw.
I think I saw a podcast with youtoo.
You were on her podcast, I believe it was on YouTube.
Yeah, I watched it. Yes, OK, cool.
And so I was with Courtney Doctor.
She's coming on too. She's coming on, too.
Good. Courtney's the best.
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Such a breath of fresh air. She's so real, too.
So she's the best. So we're talking to Doctor Kiltz
right in front of us, and Maria is in rows ahead.
So this is like my personal Disneyland.
I don't even care about celebrities, but these are my
celebrities, right? And Doctor Kiltz is an
unbelievable, so is Maria. But they have some differing
opinions about things. Now, you know, Doctor Kiltz's
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background, he's a fertility Dr., You know, So it's like you
start cutting out all the fat and losing too much weight and
those types of things that's gonna affect fertility.
And, you know, and so it's a fine balance.
And I go back to like, you know,sometimes overall health and
weight loss are two different goals.
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And that's hard for people to hear sometimes, but it can be
true. It can be the same goal, I think
for a while. But if we're doing bikini
competition or are we optimizingfertility, you know, there's
some different things or overallnervous system regulation that
was part of my weight gain of this past year.
And that could be a different topic, but.
That's important. And I said to doctor Kilts
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because that was my thing. I said, you know, I've done the
beef, butter, bacon, eggs. I was doing, you know, the high
fat carnivore. I felt good at 1st and then like
I felt sluggish and I was gaining weight and all these
things. And he was like, well, he's
like, you know, the higher protein, you know, I could see
for a period of time being really effective.
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And Maria popped up from like the front.
She was laying down because we were like at this farm all day.
And she was like, I heard that he was like, well, and they like
talked about it. And it was like such a moment.
I was like, why are we not filming this?
Because it was so good. But it just gave the that exact
thing, you know, what are your goals right now?
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And, you know, I actually have fertility goals that I've been
talking talk to doctor kilts about.
And sometimes those are two different paths and that's also
OK. But I think goes back to like,
what are your goals? And for a lot of women that are
messaging me, I'm sure that coming to you, it's like weight
loss. And it's like, all right, let's
get let's get real about this and what your body's asking for
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amino acids. So that makes all the sense in
the world. Going back to what Vanessa Spina
was saying. If the game plan is like health
or hormones and healing, making a baby fertility high fat
carnivore can be the be the way to go for sure.
But if it's weight loss or in trying to build muscle mass,
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that's when we're going to need to have a higher protein,
potentially lower fat ratio in order to get us to where we want
to go on that side of things. That's what we're saying, I
think, yeah. And I think people, here's where
people get it wrong. Some people think you need
protein sparing modified fast ratios.
You don't unless you want to lose 20 lbs in a month and a
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half. Well, then yeah, you can do
that. But I mean, like the and Craig
Emerick, I think that they've gotten so much heat about this
because from like the dogmatic, you know, community, because
they're, they're, you know, thinking that drop your fat
completely. No, I get by.
I, I've lost 90 lbs having about100 grams of fat.
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That's not low fat, you know, I mean, that's for me.
And then maintenance, you know what I was able to do when I
built muscle mass, pop my fat upto mash my protein.
I mean, I was able to eat like that and get away with it with
muscle mass for a long time until I start losing muscle
mass. And then what happens is like
the game. So I feel like, you know, they
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very much don't preach low fat. It's moderating the fat and
that's the. Yeah, and just so the listeners
know that that's essentially, I think you and I actually eat the
same type of way because I always ran into.
I did, I did keto for a year, I did carnivore for a year.
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I ran into some nasty digestive problems when the fat was too
high like my, my, my, my stomachjust didn't like bringing in so
much fat at one time. I never could deal with it well
and I tried so many different things to kind of play with the
fat intake at certain meals times a day.
So when I came across like a lotof Ted Neiman's work right you
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know, I started to switch my, the way I look at my diet.
I eat like a 2 to one protein tofat ratio because I work out a
lot. I weigh 180 lbs right now.
I eat like 200 grams of protein a day and then half of that will
come from carbs and fat or all fat.
So it's like I'll have 100 gramsof fat or I'll have 100 grams of
carbs or 50 and 50, whatever thecase is.
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But I keep the fat moderate, theproteins high.
I stay full and satiated. Satiated, but I also know too
I'm lean but I'm not I'm not walking around at 4% body fat.
I'm probably walking around at like 11 or 12% body fat.
I have fat on my frame, so if I keep the protein high, the fat
moderate. I know I'm getting enough
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through the diet and what is on my frame to be able to stain.
Whatever it is I'm trying to do is how I feel, how I want to
work out, and the body composition I'm trying to go
after. Yes, yeah, no, nailed it.
And I think from a women's perspective, I do.
I don't have my and I've played with this for a long time too.
I don't have my protein quite that high.
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I don't seem to metabolize or that's not the right word.
Digest it fantastic when I have massive, but I keep my protein
around 125 to 150g and that's like a big variation, but it
depends on how lean I'm eating and and what I'm consuming just
in terms of like weight loss, you know, type of goals.
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But on the weekends I increase fat or like I said before my
cycle and like for me, that keeps my hormones happy.
It keeps this very sustainable and that's even for weight loss
goals. That's where it's really helped
my mindset. I'm really big about the mindset
factor when it comes to goals ingeneral, but especially for
weight loss and just consistencyis I had to have like, you know,
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it's like the old keto days of like a cheat, you know, like we
everyone's obsessed with like the Sunday cheat meal.
And then it's like it's if you're insulin resistant and you
don't have a lot of muscle mass,that's going to completely
derail your whole week and everything you just did.
And women need to hear that because I think it's so
disheartening that you're following people on social media
or these men that are, no offense, Max with 11% body fat
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that are like, I can probably, you might not want to and you
might not do this, but can kind of get away with like having
maybe a little cheat meal or a little splurge here and there
where a lot of women, if you're overweight and you don't have a
lot of muscle mass and your insulin resistance, I hate to
tell you, you kind of can't. And that's like the really hard
line. So my way around that is I
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increase fat. I eat pretty lean all week.
I eat at home and I have a lot of standards for myself for
that. And then I can get away with
having blue cheeseburgers and wings and things like that out
on the weekends or eating out with all the oils and
everything. I'm not crazy dogmatic about it,
but my body then kind of uses out almost like a refeed.
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And then I'll wake up Monday morning with a drop on the
scale. Interesting.
That's cool, because you going back to what you were just
saying, I'll I'll do a little bit of a refeed on Saturdays.
You know, Saturday's the day where we might take the kids to
go see some movies or or something like that.
Like I'll have the popcorn, you know, I'm not going to just sit
there and like not eat anything or my kids going to hand me Sour
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Patch kids. I'm going to have some freaking
Sour Patch kids. I'm sorry, Like I'm at the
movies. I'm going to do it, you know,
and I might have a few handfuls of it.
OK, what? I look at that as like an excess
energy intake day. I don't call it a good cheat
day. So it's not so like, yeah, but
then it's just like back on track, you know what I mean?
But like, I'll, I'll do if you want to call it a refeed.
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Sure. That's that's what I'll call it.
I might stoke the fire with someextra calories, carbs, sugar
that I wouldn't normally have. And then it typically tapers off
throughout the week and then I'mback on track.
But yeah, like, and that goes back to what we were saying
earlier, the whole entire point of all this stuff and all these
different diets. And what I suggest people do is
try these different things or work with Someone Like You.
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We can talk about that here in alittle bit.
Work with Someone Like You that can help you find what works the
best for them. You know, because like you said,
and I feel like we've been saying the entire time, we're
all different. We all need different types of
nutrition strategies and people to bounce ideas off of.
Speaking of clients, and I know we're coming up here on time,
I'm going to do a quick time check because I've got some
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rapid fire fun questions here that we're going to do before we
before we wrap up. But in terms of maybe people
that you've worked with, can youshare like like a client success
story where you know, someone's health drastically improved
when, you know, weight loss maybe even wasn't even the main
outcome? I know we were talking earlier
about I think people you've worked with that lost like a
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couple £100. I think you said what, what's
your, what is the one client success story that comes to your
mind that that, that, that you tell everyone about?
That was just wild. I and and the preface to the one
that lost a couple £100 worked with me with another program as
well And then be on my own. So I don't want to take all the
credit for that, but gotcha. So impressive.
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But gosh, I will say there's so many.
There's two. OK, so there's one.
Can I give you 2? Yes, yes you can.
Because I'm so proud of them andthey're so impressive.
And also I think it's really important to hear the ages.
So I worked with one who had a very high stress job.
She was divorced, had a had a daughter that was super
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successful in college. She lived in New York City and
she was a badass. OK, so you could just tell her
name's Irene, and Irene ended upand everything that Irene, I
would tell her things. And she's like, I just can't do
that. I'm like, well, you can.
I mean, but if you say you can't, you can't, you know, like
we had a funny relationship, butthat girl, I was a tool for her.
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But she finally got out of her own way.
And she was, gosh, I guess in her fifties, 50s or 60s, I think
50s. She'll be so mad at me if I get
that wrong. But anyway, she ended up losing.
She went carnivore because she was all or nothing.
She went carnivore and she endedup, I just wanted everyone to
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understand the, the ripple effect here.
She lost the weight, but not only that, she got off of all of
her medication. She was on blood pressure
medication. She was on like gastro issue
medication. She was like literally in the
hospital for gastritis, like wild things got off of all
medication. On top of that, she left her job
for a massive raise and which she would have never had courage
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to do. And she says that and
interviewed and got this unbelievable job in New York.
She started dating this like ex athlete.
They would go and like, look, and I just say because she would
tell me these things. And she's like, Can you believe
it? Like Can you believe that this
is my life now? And I'm like, yes, I can because
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I always did believe in you. But like, that's the point.
This is so much more than just weight loss.
It's what I witness is people literally getting their life
back when they thought it was over in many ways.
Not to be dark. That's.
No, that's an awesome story. That's an awesome story.
She's a pretty awesome person. We are still friends.
And another one in her name's Tammy.
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She lives in Texas and she's a good friend of mine too.
Tammy lost over 90 lbs. She the wild thing about her is
she had this very rare and I'm going to butcher what it is, but
it's like where her trach would close up and it was scar tissue
and the only way to open it was to go in and get surgery.
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And she was progressively havingto get this surgery.
It turned out to be at the end there every six months that she
would have to go in and get thissurgically removed.
It was. Every six months she would have
to do the surgery over again. Yes, and it was awful and it
would lead up to it and you would hear her voice change.
She couldn't breathe. You couldn't catch her breath.
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She wasn't able to work out all of these things.
Well, she did coaching with me and she did Doctor Boz Annette
Bosworth's fasting protocol. And between the two of those
things, she lost 90 lbs. She kept it off.
She got crazy active doing all of these wild kettlebell
exercise workouts all the day out in Houston, TX.
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Heat, mind you, and she was ableto prolong those surgeries I
think by almost two years. She still has to get it, but
that's how much it took the inflammation away where they
told her that this was her new normal forever and she's been
able to prolong having to get those just through diet and
lifestyle. That's wild.
So First off, that's absolutely incredible that she's had made
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that change in her life and she's able to prolong her
surgeries. But like just out of curiosity,
is it just like a growth in her throat that that grows?
It's like is it tumor or cancer related?
Is that what it's? Not cancer related and I would
need her to explain it to and it's more of like a scar tissue
type of thing that just kind of grows back.
I she believes due to inflammation.
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So inflammation and so having the fasting and she would do
like 3 day fasts every week. I mean she was for eight weeks
she did that and that in eating carnivore, she did carnivore
pretty higher fat at 1st and then she ended up switching to
higher protein. She does well with both
honestly. And that really reduced that
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inflammation where not only did it prolong it, but she could
breathe again. She could work out she was
active like traveling. I mean completely has changed
her life, which she did, you know.
That's really cool. Yeah, that's really cool.
That's a great story. All right, so I know we're
coming up here on time and I want to be respectful of what
you got going on for the rest ofthe day.
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I've got some, I've got some rapid fire questions here that I
thought I would ask you. So #1 what's the biggest health
food lie you think people need to stop believing today?
God, there's so many Macs, so this is a good the biggest
health food lie that. The biggest health food lie you
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think people need to stop believing today?
I would say that carbs are essential, that we need carbs.
That's a good one, yeah. If someone ditched plants
tomorrow and went meat only, what's the first change they'd
likely notice? Oh gosh, so many things.
I would say bloating. They would notice that their
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rings would get loose and their bracelets if they were a girl
and their stomach, their bloating would drastically
change and their digestion. I think the digestion piece is
absolutely huge, 100% if you could ban just one food from
every grocery store shelf, what would it be and why?
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Oh my gosh. Oh this is easy.
Max seed oils. Every single thing that contains
any seed oils. How?
Imagine how wonderful that wouldbe.
Yeah, 100% that would do I that would.
Wipe out enough for me to be happy I think.
I think I agree with you on thatone totally.
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What's 1 health hack you swear by?
That sounds totally crazy, but absolutely works.
Health ha gosh, these are kind of hard because it's like you
want the perfect answer and I have a couple with us that I
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swear by that totally works. Increasing fat eating carnivore
and increasing fat the week before your cycle you will not
have PMS symptoms and you'll have a much better cycle women.
I'm going to remind my wife on that one.
Don't be mad at me. All right, last one here, you've
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got 3 foods. We didn't even get to the
exercise stuff and I really wanted to get into that, but I,
I, I wanted to ask you, ask thislast one to you.
You got 3 foods to eat for the rest of your life.
What are they and why? Oh probably.
Honestly it's a toss up here. It has to be red meat.
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I'm going to say rib eye becauseit's delicious, but I would go
grass fed to make it a little leaner.
Eggs because they're a super food.
I'd say that that's my multivitamin every day.
And avocado because I'm not a dogmatic carnivore anymore.
Love that answer. That's awesome.
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How how are you on time? I wanted to ask you about the
exercise stuff real quick. Did you have maybe a couple more
minutes? Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm honest.
Yeah. And, and I like to ask guests
what they do for just exercise, movement, whatever it is.
And I know we were talking a little bit earlier about how
your your, your day-to-day in terms of diet, what's your
day-to-day in terms of working out when you get your movement
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in, what is it? Do you train, you do strength
training every day? Do you incorporate, incorporate
cardio? Like what does that look like?
Yeah, I'll tell you, it's lookeda little bit different.
So I had a little bit of a nervous system issue this past
year, more so related to a long virus that's very familiar with
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everybody that we won't name. So you're not shadow band, but I
so before that I was strength training probably three to five
days a week, two to three days aweek, twice a week, typically
with a trainer. It was very disciplined and I
felt amazing. On top of that, I was walking or
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I have a Peloton and so I would always do some type of cardio
pretty steady state though neverintense cardio.
So I've always been way more successful with building muscle
mass and also with weight loss when I pulled off on the really
intense cardio. So I am a non negotiable now.
I had to work through some de stressing.
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My body was in fight or flight for a while and so that was
really hard because exercise is like my anchor habit.
It's what makes me happy. It's my de stressor.
It's anxiety, it's so many things that it helps me with,
but I had to really tone that back because my body was not
able to keep up with the demandsof what I was doing before.
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And so with that, I need a non negotiable and I still do this
and I do a poll every single dayon my Instagram.
Have you moved your body? So movement for me is non
negotiable. And you know, I hear so often
people are like walking is not exercise.
And I would agree with that. If you're in the thick of your
fitness journey, but I think most of America is sedentary and
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most of us are not moving our body.
We a lot of us have desk jobs and we're indoors and we aren't
even wearing, I don't even wear a tracking device anymore
personally, But we're not getting the movement and we
don't have that incentive, you know, And so I'm a big advocate
for just moving your body. I walk every single day, seven
days a week. Sometimes it's 30 minutes,
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sometimes it's an hour and a half if it's a really good
podcast. And so that's non negotiable
with that. I do strength training now about
twice a week. And so I keep it really simple.
Yeah. Very good.
No walking is absolutely fantastic walking after meals.
I've my wife and I will try to take a a walk right after we eat
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dinner just around the block. We do too.
Yeah, and it helps with digestion.
It helps with especially like for me, like I, I'll eat a lot
of food and sometimes I can get a little bit sluggish because
I'll just, I'll put down so muchfood, but it's just nice to like
go take a walk, let everything digest.
And also too, I sleep better. I've noticed I sleep better too,
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just like just that little, justthat little bit of walking right
after you eat. And I, you know, it's funny, I
used to share this with my clients too.
It's, you know, I, I worked witha range of strict carnivore to,
you know, eating 70 total carbs a day that we're still counting
ketogenic. So wide variety of what worked
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for different people. And I always said that when it
comes to, you know, weight loss,especially in insulin
resistance, it's just learning to manage blood sugar.
That's why ketogenic is so helpful.
But learning about body weight squats after you eat.
Or a walk, just like a 10 minutewalk like what you were saying
can blunt a glucose response by up to 40%.
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I think it's like 40 to 60%. And so, you know, it's really
helpful if you are someone that you consume or you feel good
with the more carbs or maybe having some carbs on the weekend
or even as we know a lot of protein, you know, can breakdown
in a little gluconeogenesis action there.
But doing the squats or going for a walk along with everything
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else that it aids with digestionand bring brings blood pressure
down and so many things, it can blunt that glucose response by
that much, which is pretty wild.Oh 1000% for a while what I was
doing was every time after I ateI would do no matter what it
was. I would do 30 push ups, 30
squats, you know? And honestly it felt better
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because a lot of times I was just saying if I I usually eat 2
meals a day, big lunch, big dinner, that's it.
But it's a lot of food. But I do 30 push ups, 30 squats
afterwards. I feel like it kind of helps,
helps how I feel and how helps how I digest everything 100%.
I'm a big believer in that. Yeah, for sure, I am too.
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It's a. It's a big hack for sure.
Yeah. Well, Britt, this was
absolutely, this was fun and it was really fantastic.
Where, Where can people find youonline, Get in contact with you?
Work with you? Yeah, I, you know, I paused my
coaching program for a little bit last year and I'm in the
process of trying to bring it back.
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So I am corresponding with people.
I might start a wait list here soon for that.
And I'm just on Instagram. I keep it simple.
I can't keep up with with the kids, you know, and all the
different platforms. So Instagram Health edit by
Britt with two TS at the end is where you can find me.
Very cool. And I'll put everything in the
show notes. This was again, amazing.
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Thanks so much for your time andand to all you guys listening to
the Low Carb Consultant podcast.We'll catch you guys on the next
one. Thanks so much.