Dr. Robert Kiltz | The Carnivore Diet: Fat, Protein, Fertility & The Gut | August 3, 2025 Ep. 14 - The Low Carb Consultant

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All right guys, we're rolling. Welcome back to the Low Carb
Consultant podcast. Today we're joined by an
absolute pioneer in fertility, keto, carnivore nutrition and
metabolic health, Doctor Robert Kilts, the Master Carnivore.
He's the founder of CNY Fertility, A reproductive

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endocrinologist, and he leverages the keto and carnivore
diet to heal complex conditions like PCOS, endometriosis, and
infertility. He's a Ted X speaker, book
author, pilot and artist, and doctor Kilts combines heart
centered medicine with engineering precision.
If you've ever wondered how to optimize your fertility,

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longevity with food, you're in for a good one.
So again, Doctor Kilts, welcome.Pleasure to finally meet you
man. It's it's great to have you on.
Max, it's my absolute pleasure. I love this conversation.
We need to be instilling hope and and energy and spark in all
our brothers and sisters becausewe're we're we're getting more

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and more down, depressed, diseased, and and we got to turn
it around. And that's my mission in life,
is to turn it around for all of us.
Yeah, and I think I told you this right before we started
recording here, but, you know, we were talking about our ages
before we jumped up here. I know you're you're you're
turning 70, right? I'm, I just turned 40.

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And one of the reasons why I follow you is I want to be as
vibrant and energetic and youthful at 70 as you are.
So you're, you're, you're a perfect, you're a perfect role
model for your demographic and age group, if I can be honest
with you. Well, that's, yeah, you're, I

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think about, I'm almost 70, so I'm in my 70th year of life
technically. And I've looked back and I'm
like, wow, from zero to 70. It's like yesterday.
It's so fast, like a watch in the night.
It is zipped by and I feel so energized, so much more youthful
than I saw my parents. I think at this age or I ever

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imagine that #70 would be. I turned 70 March 12th of of
next year, but I'm I'm living itwith with passion and joy and
I'm excited to be 8090 a hundred.
I'm looking forward to all thoseages for sure.
Absolutely. Well, I think we're we're going

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to be talking about today what goes into that.
And I think a lot of it has to do with meat and fat and steak
and all the good stuff. So maybe before we jump into all
of that, for the listeners who may not know who you are quite
yet, would you mind giving just a real brief background on
yourself and how I would probably say how maybe you

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became one of the leading influencers in the carnivore
space? Well, let's see my elevator
speeches. I grew up in Los Angeles, kicked
out of school in a gang, couldn't read, father in jail,
ADHDOCD, depression, bowel problems, migraines.
I literally couldn't read and and I hung out with street kids,

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got kicked out of school at one point.
But thankfully I've got arrestedin Los Angeles by a Rampart
division LAP officer when I was probably about 14.
I was like OK, jail or clean it up.
Cleaned it up and I had great. I had great amazing parents that
passed at 93 a few years ago. They had troubles, but they were
always loving, kind and teachingalong the journey.

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I broke a leg at 19, met a hippie Dr. I decided to become a
doctor and I said, wow, this is going to be tough.
But the one thing I was was a worker.
I loved the work took me longer to get to where I wanted to go,
but I was a worker and and from there I became a doctor.
I became an OBGYN doctor than a fertility Dr. And through the

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years I had depression, bowel problems, migraines.
I got sicker and sicker and sicker into my 40s, my late 40s,
I had started seeing like fertility.
I integrated yoga, massage, meditation and positivity and
prayer into my fertility practice and this over 2025

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years ago. And while doing that, some of my
patients were getting pregnant on this thing called paleo diet.
And I'm like, where's Paleo diet?
So I started digging deep into paleo diet.
I'd already written and and blogged about about mindset and
positivity and faith in God. And when I found paleo then I

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tripped over keto. And then I discovered carnivore
online with someone that was looked ripped, didn't exercise,
eat only meat. I personally jumped into
carnivore at 55 and bingo, arthritis, psoriasis, migraines,
kidney stones, bowel bleeding gone.
And I went into medicine to helpmy patients heal.

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And I figured, all right, I'm already integrating mindset and
yoga and acupuncture, massage. Maybe there's something to this
dietary thing because it was forme.
So I started blogging and writing and, and, and sharing it
and, and I focus on it as my primary diet and it's only

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helped me heal and be stronger and, and vibrant.
And I love the communities. I love the social media, all the
podcasting everyone's doing. We're changing it up.
The control of Healthcare is right here and it's individually
your control, not mine. And so the more we could teach

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and inspire people, all the better.
And so I travel the world doing that right about a blog about
it. And I think, you know, it's I
learned to fly airplanes at 55, jets at 62, and I do pottery
painting. I own and run CNY fertility
centers, well over 700 people that helped run it.
We're one of the largest and most affordable yet we integrate

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Eastern and Western practices and everything we do.
And if I can help you heal from whatever and have a baby
naturally, that's my first job in life.
That's my basics, yeah. That's beautiful, man, that's
beautiful. And and going back to something
that you mentioned earlier in terms of how you found the
carnivore diet. So it wasn't really anything
like and I and I think going back to the issues that you were

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talking about earlier, psoriasis, arthritis, all the
different things. I think what's funny is a lot of
people, they're kind of just living with these things, right?
And that's what they think life is.
It's like I'm getting older and this is what happens and I'm
dealing with it. But how you, the way that you
found the carnivore diet, it's not like you were necessarily
looking to fix some of these things or address them.

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You stumbled upon it, you tried it, and then all of a sudden you
felt amazing. Is that kind of the gist of how
it went? I, I again, I had psoriasis,
migraines, bowel bleeding, kidney stones.
I was taking all these drugs. I go to the doctor just kind of
thought it was normal. I was a crazy exercise guy.
Atkins and I looked good, but I was hurting and I went through

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depression, separation, divorce,business problems, relationship
problems, just normal day-to-daystuff.
And when when I found Paleo and started learning about it and
teaching my patients, I noticed for myself I was feeling better.

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And then I found keto feeling even better.
And then it was carnivore for myself that all of those things
went away. My my brain could see the world
in in Technicolor. I felt the energy of life.
I felt God within in more power than I've ever imagined and and

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saw life on a very different different realm.
Mind master and and meet only elevated even more in in my
opinion. Very cool.
And then maybe at what point through all of this transition,
you know, the life things happening, the business stuff
happening, when did you start implementing this type of

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protocol for like your patients?And maybe like, at what point
did you start seeing this work for fertility issues?
Well, as I said, so stress in life often holds us back and
prevents us from moving forward because we're afraid of failure.

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So I don't want to do that because I might fail.
It's too hard emotionally. XYZ.
And, And so that's when I began to incorporate mindset and
positivity and to try to reduce people's stress, get them the
chance to move forward even in the hard.
And then, and then as the diet and I learned about the

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nutritional, about the, the poisons and plants and the three
to six meals a day, which is deadly.
That's when I began to incorporate that.
But remember, my job as a doctoris to give you tools to help you
heal, along with my standard shots, pills and surgeries,
which I do a ton of those even. But if I can help you learn how

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to change naturally and also help on the Western side, that's
my job. I started writing and blogging
about this 25 years ago to put it into print or, or words in a
way that I'm your coach and cheerleader, not just your
doctor with a white coat behind a desk writing a prescription.

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I want to be out there on the onthe turf, out in the field that
I can help give you some guidance and direction.
And I'm also going to do it myself.
I jumped into acupuncture, massage, yoga, prayer.
I jumped into the nutritional realm.
I'm not going to offer for you to do something I wouldn't do

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myself. That's the part that I'm
learning. And we're all human beings
suffering. So I started blogging 25 years
ago, probably 5 people ever listened to me online way back
when. And and I started writing books
about mindset and and nutrition.I really incorporate over the

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last 10 years plus in this. So healing is my job and my
business and I'm not here to make money.
I'm here to make men, mommies and masters.
That's my mission in life. Oh man, that's a, that's a great
line right there. So OK, let's, let's maybe dive

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deeper into the fertility fertility issue and, and, and
the blog that you were talking about, because your, your blog
does emphasize like keto and carnivore for egg and sperm
health. So why, why and how does this
like a high fat diet, animal based diet work well for people

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from a fertility perspective? Is there like, what's the
mechanism behind it that can help people get pregnant and and
and accomplish that? Well so reproductive dysfunction
is on the rise in men and women.Sperm dysfunction, egg
dysfunction, reproductive organ,testicular, penile, uterus,

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tubes, ovaries, all of them are being damaged by something.
Inflammation in my opinion is caused by 5 things.
Plant sugars, plant chemicals, plant antigens, the fermentation
of the plants in our guts and excessive exercise.
Now 99% of what I'm talking about is a diet that's meant for

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a pig, cow and a sheep, not a lion.
We've been duped to eat a high plant, low animal fat diet.
And that single one thing is theleading 'cause now plenty of
people have babies in the world,but everyone's getting
something. But I can tell you since I've
been in practice of medicine fora near 40 years plus, I've I've

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seen younger and younger and more and more people suffering.
And think about it. The the gut, the
gastrointestinal tract is one ofthe first organ systems to get
damaged. My stomach aches as a kid, my
Constipation, diarrhea. Think about the number of people

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that have died of, of gastrointestinal disorders and
the incidence of colon cancer, Crohn's, IBS, which way is it
going up? OK, so and everyone's eating a
high plant, low animal fat diet.99% of people do not eat much
animal fat. And so the the inflammation, the

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microbes love it. The microbes flourish, they
cause more gut inflammation. The gut inflammation breaks down
what's called the glycocalyx, orthe layer that protects the gut.
So now the microbes and the toxins get into the body.
They get in through the blood vessels, the lymphatics, the

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gut. They go systemically to every
organ system of your body. And ultimately, are we born to
be podcasters or parents? Parents.
Parents. And, and so people are
postponing parenthood or they'rebeing poisoned by the plants
that is decimating parental rights to become apparent in

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life. And so the the microbes and the
plants are both live organisms and neither of those things want
to be eaten. And when you eat them, they
ferment Auto brewery syndrome. You're making alcohol in your
gut. Plus, for women, the microbes go

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out, the rectum, anus, they go right into the vagina, the
bladder, the cervix, the uterus,the tubes, the ovaries.
They cause vaginitis, cervicitis, endometriitis,
endometriosis, endometriosis, damage to the tubes, the
ovaries, polycystic ovarian syndrome, and ovulation.

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I mean, the list goes on and on and on.
And basically the, the microbiome is not your friend.
It wants to take you down. It's everywhere.
The microbes are everywhere, butthat doesn't mean they're good
for you. That's the crazy part of the
story, right? We've been taught so much

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science that is theoretical and it's money mastery, not mommy
and men mastery rights. How can we make more money on
sick human beings? And that's the problem.
We're focused on profits over people.

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And, and so the simplicity is, Imean, I was eating cereals and
crackers and, and, and you know,vegetables I hated, but I ate
them too. Pasta, pizza, bread.
I mean, we all, what is all thatmade of?
Processed crap? Plants, plants.

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See. So you got to be really simple
in this. I'm not a smart guy.
Lions eat sheep and sheep eat plants.
Again, we are omnivores. We can eat everything and
anything. Why some people get disease and
other people don't, the answer is I don't know.
But what's basically happening is the inflammation in the gut

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is going into the, the, the, thebowels, the vessels and every
organ system of your body. And for women, it's going into
the vagina, the, the uterus, thetubes, the ovaries.
And there's something called goitrogenic foods.

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Goitrogenic foods. A A thyroid goiter is
essentially A damaged thyroid gland.
It could be damaged but working normally or damaged and not
working normally, or it could look normal but it's not working
normally. All the plants you know of, all
the fruits, fiber, vegetables, seeds, and nuts are known

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goitrogens. So when they get to the thyroid
gland, they damage it. I believe it's like dust in the
wind. When it gets in your body, it
goes everywhere and it damages every single molecule of, of
your, your body. And it starts in the gut

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essentially. And, and it's really as simple
as that. And as you feed the microbes in
your gut, right, the good bacteria, which ones are good?
Which which? Gut bacteria are good, yeah.
I would say. The the bacteria that's already
living in the gut well. Isn't bacteria living
everywhere? Sure.

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So why is it good and some good and some bad?
Well, it doesn't. Like some bacteria feed off.
Like the bacteria in your gut isbasically going to feed off
whatever it is you're putting inthe gut and then that releases
methane gases, all those types of things.
But they but, but I would say, Idon't know, I guess it just kind
of depends on what you're eating, right.

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Well, but. You just say it releases methane
gas. Well, that's.
From if you're eating a lot of plants, that's where you get the
methane gas, right? Well.
What about alcohol? Are you making alcohol in your
gut? Well, I guess from what you were
saying I got, I didn't even knowabout this or think about this,
but I guess apparently we might be based off what you just said

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if there's fermentation going on, correct?
Well. Well, when bacteria and yeast
eat food, what do they do? When bacteria and that's called
fermentation. Yeah, OK.
All right. And so which bug is good today
and bad tomorrow? Any of them?
Because in fact, they're not good.

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They're not bad, they're there. They're because they're
everywhere. But we've made a science in
order to make money on probiotics, claiming that the
bugs are good and you just have to add some new ones to you.
But what if the good bacteria could be the bad bacteria

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tomorrow? Because which one of those
bacteria, yeast or viruses do you want in your bloodstream?
I guess I don't know do you want?
Any of them in your bloodstream,It doesn't.
Sound like I do what's not? Yeah, we accept what we're
taught from the experts in the science field, don't we?

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True. Yes, we do.
Because they have your best intentions at heart, don't they?
Apparently. Well, that's what they tell us,
yes. So you're telling me that a lot
of these supplements that we might be buying at the store,
these, these microbiome supplements in the refrigeration

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aisles at the Whole Foods, there's basically potentially
just a load of crap? They make crap.
I mean, essentially, you know, microbes breakdown plants and
make and make crap, right? Yeah.
And that's what it all is, right?
How do you make manure? Right?

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And, and so think about it. Fermentation of plants and
proteins. Remember, proteins are
fermentable. Fat is not fermentable.
So what's a standard diet? It's fruit, fiber, vegetables,
seeds and nuts and lean meat, correct?
Well, that's the. Paleo diet, right right there.
Well, that's. Just that.
Let's say standard diet. Fruit, fiber, vegetables, seeds,

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nuts, lean meat. What's it missing?
Fat are plant oils fat or they industrial produced oils that
must be extracted, including olive oil and coconut oil.
Yeah, they're. Extracted.
They're extracted. So there's only there's only

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animal fats and plant oils all in my opinion are potentially
toxic. I don't use them.
Yeah, I, I, I had a question about that.
You know, in terms of so like interms of like all olive oils,
coconut oils, all of those are basically from what we from what

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from your standpoint, it's it's it's basically all no good
rancid potentially. OK, so I'm Italian.
I love olive oil. I do.
I'm not saying stay away from these things, but let's be real.
Let's go out to nature and hunt some olive oil.
It relies on large agriculture, peasants, slave soldiers and the

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mob. All right.
And, and ultimately it's it is, I love it.
It's good. I'm not saying don't do it, by
the way. I'm being all facetious and
crazy a little bit. But it is a plant oil and a seed
oil, is it not? Yes, so I thought seed oils were
no good, but how is olive oil OK?

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Because it's mostly from crushedseeds the whole the whole fruit.
Now you can buy the deseeded pulp oil, but it's still a plant
product, not an animal product. Got it, got it.

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So going back to when we're basically everything that we
were just laying out, let's call, let's call it the the rant
we did. All right.
When we're, when we have clientscoming in new patients and we're
talking to them about infertility and we're

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transitioning them to potentially, and we're talking
about a diet like this. Like how, how, how do you
typically present the diet to tothe potential patient?
Like they, and I know it's probably on a case by case basis
and everyone's a little bit different, but I'm curious to
see how you go about it and bring it up to them and talking
about it with them. Are you?
Biologically, physiologically and biochemically different than

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I am. I would say no, no, generally.
Generally, we're all, we got thesame mechanics.
I mean, we're all. Dying of the same 20 diseases or
some number in between, wouldn'tyou agree?
OK, By the way, I'm not saying that olive oil and plant oils
are all bad, by the way. I just be careful on that.
I'm just being very sort of overall encompassing.

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But if someone comes to me with the medical condition and
generally coming to me because they're infertile, I want to
know about their medical history.
I want to know about their reproductive history, and I want
to know that. I want to know about what they
eat, drink and put in and on their body.

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So I asked them, what do you eat?
The answers are healthy, clean, organic.
What did that tell me? Yeah.
They're probably yeah, well, or they're probably if they're
eating a lot of organic, I mean,who knows if they might have a
lot of plants in their diet, whatever the case is, but well,
and the. Reason I go to plants and not
just remember you and I didn't process our food.

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Someone else typically did anyway.
But plants contain more poisons than than pesticides do.
And and so it may be I just needto listen and learn.
Are you? And I ask, are you, you eat
fruit, fiber, vegetables, seeds,nuts.
Go down the list. What meats do you eat?
And and then I give them some direction.

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OK, here's the Western things you could do.
He's the Eastern things you could do.
And here's the nutritional things you could do.
And, and so, OK, I only eat plants.
You're a vegan, All right? They're harder, but not
impossible. OK, I'm a vegetarian or a
Mediterranean or a pescatarian, A carnivorean.
All right, you can eat eggs, cream, butter and cheese, right?

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Where do those come from? Animals.
Right. Now, that might not be the top
of the line to me, but I'm goingto say, hey, listen, I recommend
carnivore diet. But if you're at least keto and
you do one meal a day, eat less frequently.
We're not grazing animals, eating less frequently and doing

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more fasting is the best way to kill the gut because remember,
the microbes in the gut are yourbiggest problem because they're
proliferating. If you look at James Henry
Salisbury's work, he was a physician, graduated Albany Med
1850s. He went on to the Civil War.

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His men were dying of pneumonia and dysentery.
He switched them a meat based diet and they got better.
And he wrote, he wrote books andideas and and really did science
on this one. And so I try to explain those
things and well, Doctor Kilt's, I'll never eat meat.
OK. But again, I'm here to give you

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ideas. I have nothing to do with what
you do. And I see a tremendous number of
people who do keto get pregnant,carnivore get pregnant.
Some people don't. And because it depends how deep
the damage and diseases before they get there.
I share my books online, my podcasting, everything.

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And you know, that's kind of howI lead it with here are the
things you could do. Here's a spelled out.
We have courses and coaching online books.
We write TE DX talk and and the more we talk about it like
you're doing and give doctors they don't control healthcare

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anymore. Sorry, the these devices, social
media, the information, my friend did this, my friend did
that or so. And so I saw this person,
Michaela Peterson, Jordan Peterson, Demi person, you know,
Max Helmer up. That's that's where modern world
is going. It's right on these devices and

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and we want to learn it and wantto take control of it.
But the trick here is, does obesity cause disease?
I, I think it contributes to it very, very highly.
I, I think there's a lot of other factors that go into it,
but most of the doctors that I've spoken with and most of the

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things that I'm seeing online isit, I think yes.
I if you were to just answer, ifI had to answer a yes or no
question, I I think I would say yes, no.
Way. There's no way that fat and
obesity cause disease. It's caused by a plant protein
low animal fat diet that does the damage that we blame on

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adipose tissue but has nothing to do with the fat on your body.
Your body. Interesting.
Is doing. One thing that it wants to do
bigger and better than anything you've ever known.
It wants to get fat because there's no food for six months
and you're skinny. Where are you?
You're in a grave. You're dead.

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And so we've made obesity as thescapegoat, when in fact it's the
drive to be skinny and a plant protein low fat diet that's
killing all of us. Interesting perspective and and
again. Polar bears must get mighty fat

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to survive without ring seals, and bears must hibernate six
months. If they don't get fat, they're
dead. I was just.
Thinking about a bear hibernating, Yeah, that's a good
point. And a.
Butterfly cannot migrate withoutenough fat in its body.
It does not use sugar as energy.No animal uses sugar directly as

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energy except the microbes that ferment them, so I just.
Wanted to go back and touch on this because I think this is in,
in my opinion, I, I would say that this is a pretty polarizing
statement. So going back and just to
clarify here, what you're sayingis you don't necessarily think
it's the excess amount of fat anobese person has on their body

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that's contributing to their disease?
Exactly. 100% adipose tissue andobesity is not the cause of
disease so. Would you say though then it's
the function of their diet that's maybe creating them to
get get fat, whether it's highlyprocessed excess carbohydrates,
foods that that they're over consuming, certain types of

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foods that are not nutrient dense like meat for instance in
eggs that they might not be consuming as much of is is.
Are you saying that it's more ofthe foods rather than the fat on
the frame? It's.
Not the fat in the frame one bitbecause.
Because are there fat People Cutcarrying an extra 100 to 200
three, £100 around walking everyday?

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Yeah, yeah, there are if I put a. 102 hundred £300 on your
frame right now. Here's a 200 LB coat.
Could you carry it around all day?
I I would. Hope that I could.
I, I, I I would hope that I could if.
I gave you £100 weight and say Max carry this around all day.
I I would try, but I mean, obviously, yes, it would be

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difficult, no. No, nobody.
Very few people. Remember, you can only do it so
long, and then you're going to get tired, right?
Yeah, sure. Right.
And, and so my point a little bit is extra weight.
Those people are stronger than you.
And I know #1 #2 is, are are youa heroin addict or an alcoholic

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or a, a, a tobacco addict? Now, remember, if the
environment you live in is full of those things, free and easy,
cheap, what are the odds that most of us are addicts High.
Yeah. OK.
Now, now I'm going to raise you and all my children in a highly

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addictive world of processed plant products.
And then I'm going to blame themfor their disease.
Who's at fault? OK.
OK, now. Now, children, you go, do we go
through the market as a kid, allI want this and this and this,

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you know, what does a parent to do?
They fill their cart up to bringit home.
Now wait a minute, Where do we shop?
And that's what we're taught to eat.
OK, so by the way, again, it's their fault for eating processed
food. Well it's not completely

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because, but it because it's hard to be a carnivore and only
eat meat. Because what does the propaganda
tell you to do? Well, you know the other trash
that's out there, but when you. Use the word trash.
Be careful because it says eat fruit, fiber, vegetable, seeds
and nuts. How many people are allergic to
fruit, fiber, vegetable seeds and nuts?

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I mean, there's a lot of people that are allergic to them.
How many people are getting colon cancer that are healthy
and need a healthy diet? Lots.
One of my best friends, healthiest dudes around, gets
cancer, dies. One of my other good friends,
cancer dies. The number of healthy people
getting cancer today is on the rise because the the major

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health, health and fitness words, words for all of us, from
the doctors, the masters, the universities.
They say red meat is bad, eat plenty, don't eat fat.
That that saturated animal fat is 'cause it can't cause heart
disease, right? And So what is a regular human

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being to do? I grew up in LA, kicked out of
school and again, couldn't read Father in jail.
I had just watched all the stupid shit that I'm listening
to every day. How can I be discerning about
that? Yeah, Yeah, it.
Makes sense? I don't blame one obese person

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for their problem. I blame our healthcare system
and our marketing system and thegovernment system because if you
are a a bear in in ripe fall season with ton of fish and ton
of berries and I said, hey, watch your weight, don't eat it,

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what's he going to do? Yeah, well, I mean, he's, he's
going to eat, OK. So now your brain is as ancient
as that bear. It only knows.
Wait a minute. Look at all this food.
What are the odds there's a war,a disease, a pestilence, and

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there's no food next week in themajority of our evolution around
this globe? Go to Gaza.
Go to Somalia. Right?
So the human brain is smarter than you and I are, because it
knows the odds that an atomic bomb or some massive fire or

(34:36):
storm of shit's going to take away your access to food and
you're skinny. Yeah, the survival rate.
Survival rate is basically lower.
Yeah, right. So, so the people that are, you
know, so we're trying to help them share a new message that

(34:57):
that eating fatty rare to raw meat is the health food and
eating all these fruits and vegetables, seeds and nuts is
not, you know, and. And just going back to what you
were saying about like when we were using like the bears an
analogy and, you know, talking about going through periods of

(35:18):
of, of not eating right. So because I think, and this is
going to kind of correlate to what we're just talking about, I
do very much believe that human beings are not supposed to be
grazers. We're not supposed to eat 4 to 6
meals a day. And also aligning with what
you're saying you go through, ifyou kind of look at the majority
of the time humans beings were on this planet, right, there's

(35:40):
going to, there were periods where we went days, weeks
without eating. That's just was the case.
And now we just have like an abundance of food and now we
just eat way too much and way too frequently.
But you just did a 15 day fast and I was following along.
All the posts that you were doing were absolutely amazing
and inspiring. And it was kind of cool to see
your energy and, and how you were throughout the day-to-day

(36:02):
on your Instagram stories and stuff.
Can you walk us through maybe like what prompted that
endeavor? You know, maybe it's the
birthday coming up that we were talking about earlier.
You know, you're going into your70th year.
Maybe I that was part of it, buthow did that go?
What prompted it? When did it get hard?
When did it get easy? Can you kind of walk us through

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how you felt through the entire thing?
Well, I claimed it from day one of what I'm doing and and I
always say the mind is the true master I you put it out to.
The universe saying I'm I'm going to make it this amount of
time I. Create the universe.
Every thought you think creates the universe and life you live.

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And so that's my foundation. Jesus Christ to me
philosophically is the master. I read them all though.
I think all religions and cultures have really evolved to
who we are. But the mindset.
So I've done 7 days. I've never done more than that.
I I wanted, I wanted to do it something I hadn't done before.

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14 days was my number and I claimed it.
Doctor Nelson has done 10 days. I think he's now done 14.
He's kind of kind of online withme.
I mean, I can do, I could do 40 days.
I could do that right now. Is it necessary?
I mean, I'm 150 lbs. I'm fine.

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I don't have a lot of fat on my body.
You know, I'm good. And I was like, you know, this
is a good number. This is 15 days for me.
I waited to 15 because I did notwant to eat, was on the road
because I sometimes get diarrheaoften and it's either an hour or
five hours and you never know. And I was flying and I was like,
OK, but yeah, interesting. This time I, I refed with bone

(37:54):
broth, whipped egg in the in thein the broth and in a, in a
hamburger, very rare cooked withbutter.
And I just ate that and and I, Idid great this time nothing.
And I could tell you that I, my mind is really the master and
I'd like I was making I made dinner with for people.

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I went to dinner three times. I sat with people having food.
I ate 0. Now I've been off coffee for 2
1/2 years. I did have a little coffee
during that time and an electrolyte mix with a little
bit of stevia, but that was likenot every day.
And it was a little bit here andthere, but mostly it was.
I lick salt and my mind is the master in all this and everyone

(38:39):
and anyone can do it when you begin to claim it as done.
And, and that's the thing. I, I, I write books on daily
inspiration and blog about it. I mean, I think I don't care if
you're vegan, vegetarian, Mediterranean, pescetarian or
carnivarian. The mind is the ultimate master
of all of it. And, and when you can take the

(39:02):
mind to that level, that's, that's where I, I think it is.
So, you know, it was, it was a lot of fun.
Yeah. Put myself in times where people
came over here, let me make you a steak.
I cut it up. You know, I went to dinner twice
at my one of my favorite restaurants.
And I sat there and watched. I went to a fundraiser meet up

(39:26):
in, in, in in Vegas with Scott Brandlin.
And they had food for everyone. Oh gosh.
You. Know and so I just wanted to
prove myself what is possible and during that time it's all
life is spiritual by the way, this is a spiritual journey.

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Everything that happens to you happens for you to build you and
be stronger and love, kindness, generosity, faith are like my
foundations every single day. And you need to look in the
mirror and say to that beautiful, amazing human being
how much you love them every single day.
That's like, to me, one of the most.
Amazing and powerful things we should be doing every day, but I

(40:13):
broke it on, on, on on Sunday. Then yesterday.
I don't even know my days of theweek anymore.
Today's Wednesday, the Monday, the Monday I went, I went to, I
went out to Capital Grille, had lunch with a friend.
I had, I had pork belly and I had a bone in filet with a ton

(40:38):
of butter, black and blue. And and then yesterday I, I made
a rib eye on my grill. I ate raw rib eye steak.
I don't like raw fatty meat is the healthiest thing to eat in
my opinion. But, and now I'm going to go,
I'm going to go out to dinner here about an hour.
I'm having tomahawk, lobster, oyster, beautiful, and I might

(41:01):
even have a few fries dipped in sour cream and the grease from
the pan. I sometimes eat cookie cake, ice
cream or martini or French fries.
Those are the. Those are the few exceptions
that you'll make. Those are.
My look at I drive cars, fly planes, I'd walk across the

(41:21):
street, I operate on people withknives flying everywhere, and I
live with another human being. Eating, eating, eating some
plants sometimes is not likely your problem, but eating a rib
eye steak will never be your problem.

(41:42):
But you could have an anaphylactic reaction to a plant
or remember they're contaminatedmore than rib eye steak has ever
contaminated plants. Oh yeah.
I had a question for you on protein because so I am a big
fan of, and I know you know a lot of these people, Doctor

(42:05):
Gabrielle Lyon, Ted Naman, I've had him on Craig Emerick.
I interviewed him on on Monday and they're talking about, you
know, and I'm seeing this a lot in in the space in terms of the
evolution of keto and carnivore and as it pertains to weight
loss. And I know you're a big like

(42:27):
higher fat guy. What are your thoughts on people
leveraging like a higher proteindiet for moving thing, moving
past things like weight loss plateaus or trying to put on
muscle mass? Like what are your thoughts on
that? I was I was just curious to get
your perspective. A bear that hibernates for six

(42:49):
months grows one to four little baby bears.
They lose no muscle mass and they lose no bone mass.
What did they lose? Adipose tissue.
Little bit of weight? Yeah.
No adipose tissue. No.
They lost a lot of weight and they lost adipose tissue.

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Well, wait a minute. 4 Bears contain muscles, bones, nerves,
organs, correct? Where did the building blocks of
those organs come from? What you're saying is it's their
adipose tissue, so. Adipose tissue is actually the
number one most important tissueon your body.

(43:32):
This is where people, I believe,have it wrong.
OK, OK, what is a cell made of? A cell is made of membranes
which contain fatty acids, cholesterol and fats.
It contains embedded proteins and it contains sugars, the

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glycocalyx. OK.
You do not eat protein, you eat plant cells or animal cells,
correct? Correct.
So every. Cell of every plant and every
animal contains amino acids, simple sugars and fatty acids,

(44:18):
correct? Correct.
So how do you separate amino acids from an animal or plant?
I don't know how you do that. And and, and remember, you eat
lean meat because you're eating mostly the muscle meat, but
you're not eating the adipose tissue, correct?

(44:42):
Which? One contains more minerals,
vitamins and building blocks of your body.
It's in the adipose tissue. But remember, how do most people
get adipose tissue? They render the fat, they melt
the fat, you glycate it, you damage the molecular structure.
OK, so now I built muscle over my two week fast.

(45:09):
Oh really? Yes.
Where did the building blocks ofthat muscle come from?
Your adipose tissue and cells. And so I'm not a fan of high
protein diet, except you mean you're eating a lower fat diet,

(45:29):
which means you have lower caloric intake.
That means you're burning your your, your caloric intake is
less and the best way. OK, Maria Emerick, Craig
Emerick's protein sparing modified fasting.
But when you use the word protein, you mean muscle
sparing. You don't mean protein sparing

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because a muscle cell is made out of what?
Fatty acids, amino acids, simplesugars?
Every cell contains those main components.
But we're talking about adipose tissue as fat.
Now, when a muscle when a When abodybuilder wants to go to a
show, do they focus on building muscles or losing fat?

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Well, when they're going to a show, they want to maintain
their muscle mass and they want to drop their body fat.
That's correct. Remember, a bear loses no muscle
mass six months of hibernation. So we actually may be misinform
misinterpreting loss of muscle mass because remember, what does

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a muscle have in between its muscle segments?
Intramuscular fat? What's the purpose of
intramuscular fat? Provide what energy you see?
Interesting. Gluco.
Gluco. Look at this.
Took me a while to figure this one out all right.

(47:03):
Because. When when I learned about bears
hibernating, they lose no musclemass because everyone says oh
you can't fast because you'll lose muscle mass.
How do you build muscle resistance work?
Yeah, Right. Yes.
OK, So now can I convert my adipose tissue into muscle mass?

(47:26):
Yes, you can. Remember what's the building
blocks for muscle? It comes from fat cells.
All right. Interesting.
So just to clarify then, becauseobviously we've got, we've got
people in the space like keto savage, right, Great, great

(47:49):
example, Keto, deleveraging, a ketogenic diet, high fat diet to
build muscle mass. So then what, what in your
opinion, what does, what is the role of protein then?
OK. All right, So what do you know
about about protein production? Where does it happen?

(48:13):
OK, so remember, you eat plants and animals.
They're broken down into amino acids, simple sugars and fatty
acids. Now the amino acids and simple
sugars go to the liver, and insulin goes to the liver.

(48:33):
What does insulin make in the liver?
That you will die without fat. That's it.
When you eat fat, fat goes to the lymphatics via chylomicrons,
and a chylomicron is a syntheticmicrocell which has a fatty

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membrane. It has lipids, cholesterol,
amino acids and simple sugars that then are sucked into the
lymphatics and taken to every cell of your body.
OK, so now every cell of your body except a red blood cell

(49:17):
makes proteins. OK, so in the the DNA tells the
RNA to make a protein. So now these amino acids, right,
All these aminos you're eating go to to the endoplasmic

(49:38):
reticulum and make a protein structure.
Now what happens to the protein structure?
Is it just a protein now? It's not, it's not functional.
It must be post translationally modified glycation,

(49:59):
hydroxylation, methylation. There, there are like hundreds
of post translational modifications that nobody's
talking about in this world. And you know what the number one
leading one post translation modification is?
It's adding a sugar to a proteinthat makes it a

(50:21):
glycolipoprotein, which are thenput together in the liver and
sent around the body as very lowdensity lipoproteins, which is
the building block of every cellof your body.
Remember, we break it down into simplicity, but it's much more

(50:42):
complicated because the functionof insulin is thought to be to
put sugar in your cell, correct?That's not true.
I bet, I'll bet you the functionof insulin is to make sugar.
I'm sorry to make that in the liver, and here's how you know

(51:04):
that. Have you ever seen a type 1
diabetic that never received insulin?
What do they look like? They're emaciated and skinny,
and then they die hyperglycemic,but they're missing the only
fuel for the mitochondria, whichis fat.

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OK, now what does a liver failure patient look like?
Are they fat or skinny? They're skinny.
They're emaciated. Remember, all they are is they
are sarcopenic. They're wasting away.
Remember how many people eat a high fat diet in this world?

(51:47):
Very few. Most carnivores cook their meat.
They render the fat. Rendered fat is not the same as
adipose tissue. Interesting.
Now again I'm. Giving you very radical, but I
will bet a billion dollars most of our colleagues are wrong.

(52:09):
No animal eats protein. Remember, protein that you're
buying in aminos is a processed food product, isn't it?
Yeah, it's a. It's a processed amino acid.
How do you know? What's in it?
Good question. I I.
Don't know that, but again, I'm not, I'm not denying people
using it because what's it missing?

(52:31):
Fat. Now you're eating a lean diet.
OK, What happens to amino acids when you eat them?
Where do they go? To the liver, what hormone is
stimulated when you eat protein?OK, now again I'm throwing.
I'm looking. You should not know this, all
right? But look, I'm not a very smart

(52:52):
guy. I went 15 days without any
carbohydrates, any protein, any fat.
What was my insulin level? Under one?
Always. What was my sugar level?
Under 70? Always.

(53:13):
What was my energy? Amazing.
Always. Did I do my workout?
My weights? Yes.
All right. OK, now wait a minute.
But I thought insulin's job is to regulate your blood sugar,
right? What if insulin's only a
digestive enzyme? But it is not a regulating
hormone at all. Again, this is.

(53:39):
Wild. We accept.
We accept the science we're taught, don't we?
Correct. What if?
All of it is wrong. No, Remember, if you're in a
world of bodybuilding, OK, you're in a bodybuilding world
and you want to build more muscles and have bigger muscles,

(54:00):
you're going to listen to what other people have done already,
Correct? Correct.
Now, does that mean it's optimalor right?
It's what the world is when you go stand on stage and you want
to look like Robert Sykes, right?
That's what it takes. OK, But this?
Is go ahead, go ahead. Sorry, because this is this is

(54:21):
an interesting take doctor kilts.
I got to tell you like this is this is this is awesome.
Well, I. Appreciate you even listening to
my stuff. It's crazy, but look at SO.
Just just to just to so I don't lose, so I don't lose this one.
So what what you're basically saying, like in a nutshell, is

(54:41):
there is not necessarily. An.
Optimal protein number we shouldbe going after in terms of like
lean body mass, body weight. You know that that this is this
is what your thoughts are. There's not necessarily we

(55:02):
shouldn't even really be caring about the actual protein hitting
certain numbers based off if even building muscle.
What we're trying to like gain the protein.
What what you're basically saying is the protein number
doesn't necessarily matter or from what I'm gathering even
matter at all. Is that is that an accurate
assessment? Not.
One bit. Show me the studies that

(55:24):
randomized 100,000 people and showed it.
You don't have it. The problem is the thing that's
missing from the diet that's themost deadly is actually animal
fat, not protein. Nobody's protein deficient.
Nobody. And if you show me someone that
cannot get up and walk, all right, I will find a disease

(55:44):
that's secondary to a plant protein, low fat diet and
neurotoxins and the microbes in their gut and their body.
That's their problem. Maria Emmerich and Craig
Emmerich, are they bodybuilders?They are not.
They're not. What's their body frame look
like? Very skinny and lean.

(56:05):
Yeah, right. I'm not.
I love those. They're my brother, brother and
sister. But but that's now.
Now a famine hits. There's no food for three
months. Where are you at?
That body type? You're dead.
In trouble. Yeah.
You might in trouble you're. Dead.
OK, Yeah, so so so yeah. Again, our biggest problem is a

(56:32):
low fat diet. So I, I, I, I've got a question
here then for you. Yep, Yep.
Let's let's. Take maybe Sean Baker, I'm sure
he's a a buddy, friend of yours,colleague like you.
He's in all the carnivore spaces, large dude, strong dude.
Obviously he works out like a freaking animal world record and

(56:55):
like rowing and all these types of strings, competitions, all
those types of things. What would you say he he he
would think about about this like in terms of like the the
protein number, OK. So remember Sean's in the
bodybuilding world, He has his opinions about the protein
content, but nobody eats protein.

(57:17):
You eat lean meat, fatty meat. You eat plants when you agree.
And if you're eating powdered stuff, that's not normal or
natural, and none of us really know what's in it because it's
made in some manufacturing plant.
That would not be something normal.
But if you're talking like whey.Protein.
Like whey protein? Yeah.

(57:37):
Right on. Because yeah, yeah, yeah, right.
And so I'm not denying any of the conversations.
And hey, you want to look like this and do this, do that
because that's a formula that works and we've proved it,
right. But but a human healthy body

(57:59):
should be eating raw animal fat in my opinion without it.
So you ever notice butter never molds well?
Well I'm not saying never, but almost never.
I mean you can leave it on the counter in your refrigerator.
Do you ever notice the white stuff on the steak?
Leave it there. It never molds.

(58:21):
Now you haven't noticed it yet, but it doesn't because fat is
antimicrobial. Your immune system, fatty acids
are critical. It's normal function now.
Ever heard of protein poisoning?Rabbit starvation?

(58:44):
It's real. OK, and it may be more prevalent
than we know because very few people eat fatty meat.
Like I eat it rare or raw or eata stick of butter and and the
microbes in our gut would be suppressed by the fat if you ate

(59:06):
it that way, which would then keep them at Bay.
Might reduce a lot of the infections and inflammation were
all suffering from by simply adding raw fat to the meal.
But that's still counter to mostpeople.
Like I'm not doing that right. And so and so these are really

(59:30):
radical ideas. But have you ever heard of
hepatogenous diabetes? You haven't, have you ever heard
of the glycocalyx and the sugar layer?
You see, your blood type is determined by a sugar.
Did you know that? No, not a protein.

(59:52):
Your your human leukocyte antigen is determined by a
sugar, not a protein. Most diseases, including heart
disease and strokes, are causes by the damage to the sugar layer
in, in and on every vessel, every every cell of your body.

(01:00:12):
When the when the sugar layer's damaged, you now have changed
the charge of the molecules and the cells and you cause
inflammation. You cause stickiness.
Have you ever heard of a plant phytohemoglutinin?
Phyto plant hemagglutinin, bloodclotter.

(01:00:33):
They're in lectins of plants. Did you know that?
Did you know that all plants make some form of heroin,
cocaine or marijuana or nicotine?
Again, these are radical concepts that in our standard
world, you know, it's like bacon, eggs, butter, beef and

(01:00:55):
salt is like my diet. It's the baby's diet because
it's got all the the food groups.
No, I can't eat raw this or I can't.
Don't. If you want to be like a
bodybuilding world, listen to the bodybuilders.
All right? What are they doing?
But they've slimmed down, leaneddown, and now there's a massive,

(01:01:21):
a massive of infection that I mean, millions of people die
every year of infections. Do you know this?
And, and, and the majority of the world is eating a plant
protein, low fat diet and most their food is overcooked.

(01:01:41):
You have to look at Pottinger's cats.
He did an experiment. He fed cats raw meat,
pasteurized milk. I'm sorry, Raw milk, raw meat,
pasteurized milk and cooked meat.
The cooked and pasteurized animals were sicker and their
subsequent generations were sicker, including miscarriages

(01:02:03):
and infertility and all sorts ofthings.
When they fed them raw, they were healthy.
Because remember, if you cook something and heat it up, what
do you do to the to the molecular structure of that that
molecule? I think you basically destroyed
in some form and fashion so. Advanced glycation products.

(01:02:24):
You've ever heard of those AG ESages and rages?
So basically if you set fire to your house in a charred all
over, Smokey and brittle, but itdidn't fall down, would you move
into it and live it and be fine?No, that's the food you're
eating. That's a that's a really
interesting way to look at it. I mean, I never really thought

(01:02:46):
of it like that, but when you put it like that, it makes
sense. So basically when we cook our
meat, we want to cook their meat, our meat, but we don't
want to even come close to overcooking the meat is
basically what you're saying raw?
Meat is the healthiest thing youcan eat.
Cooked plants are less toxic, but not non-toxic.

(01:03:12):
You see, plants are edible because we figured out to soak
them, ferment them, cook them, grind them, roast them and all
sorts of things. But it was, it was the invent.
It was a discovery of fire whichled us down to bad roads,
overcooking our meat and, and, and thinking we could just cook

(01:03:37):
the plants and they'll be OK forus because they're not, I mean,
eat raw flour versus cooked flour, right?
They're they're different in their accessibility and their
toxicity. So we we were talking about the
fasting and obviously now we're talking about and now I'm

(01:03:58):
getting a pretty good sense to probably how you eat, but like,
can you walk me through then andmaybe help the listeners
understand like, So what are youeating on a day-to-day doctor
kill? It's like from the time like you
get up and like what your morning routine looks like to
the first thing you put in in your mouth and when that might
be water, electrolytes, first meal exercise, like what?

(01:04:20):
What does that typically look like just a normal day-to-day
for you? I get up.
Typically 3 to 4 AMI do my 100 push ups, my meditation, prayer.
I will I drink hot water, water.I've been off coffee for 2 1/2
years. I had a little last week.
That's about it. And I, I, I get online at
AT-456-O clock in the morning byreading and listening, watching

(01:04:42):
what you're doing and other people like yourself that are
influencing, giving good health information.
I usually read some biblical texts, journaling.
I usually start seeing patients at 6:00 to 7:00 AM every day
And, and, and I go to work everyday.
I'm always excited about this. I'm and and I typically have my

(01:05:04):
one meal, which is usually some form of beef rib eye, fatty, dry
aged, slice it up, eat it raw. I like it black and blue with
some blue cheese butter on it. I'm going to go to dinner
tonight at at summer House on onSiesta Key with my team.
I'm going to have I'm going to have oysters raw.

(01:05:26):
I'm going to have a tomahawk. Rib eye lobster dipped in butter
Sounds delicious. Oh my God, new.
Fries, extra crispy tallow, no skin and I might even have a
little dish of ice cream and a martini, but that's rare.
My customary day-to-day is my one steak, one meal a day.

(01:05:48):
I do about a fistful. I don't overeat, I don't eat.
I don't like Oh, I got to eat more.
I don't full. I'm done.
Got it. So you said a.
Fistful. Like probably like 8912 oz Like,
yeah. Yeah, typically.
And I'll eat, I'm done, I'll save the rest.
I'll eat the next day. Today I actually had a little

(01:06:08):
bite of left nice steak this morning.
Unusual. I usually don't touch in the
morning. I'll have my one meal at night.
I go to bed early. I'll I do my some reading,
watching meditation. I like Game of Thrones.
I love, I watch 1883 right now. I love it.
I love I love stories of human hardship and that and that we're

(01:06:31):
we're pushing the paradigm of life.
We're all going to die. And before you die, you push the
envelope. You put it out there, you learn
new things, you question everything.
My sister died of diabetes at age 52, heart failure.
My best friend Dave Kilmer died at 52 of cancer.
I'm learning that what we're sharing in the standard keto

(01:06:53):
carnivore world and all this stuff, there's missing some
things. I believe.
Again, I'm only sharing a story that that I question myself.
Sure. That is the only fuel for
mitochondria. Glucose is not.
Glucose is a glycosylating agent.

(01:07:15):
Post translational modification and production of proteins is
happening at the speed of light in almost every cell of your
body. OK, how fast do you need sugars
for that? There are 9 sugars in the human
body. Do you know what they are?
Most people do not, but there are nine of them and without

(01:07:36):
them you're dead. Every Organism has their own
barcode of sugars that determines self or non self.
That's why your blood type is determined by sugar.
Your HLA determines sugar. The immune system, your sperm
and egg, they can Only Connect if the sugar layers properly
intact. Did you know that?

(01:07:58):
And so think of the sugars, the glyco Biome, the glyco K looks
like a a barcode or transmitter and receiver.
It's all electromolecular energyand, and we're communicating an
electromolecular energy. You cannot see what's really
happening in this world. It's happening on that molecular

(01:08:20):
level, the electromolecular level and what are we capable
of? Anything you can think of isn't
that simple. That's awesome.
It's awesome when. You put it like that, Yeah.
And we are. Faith in God is the most

(01:08:43):
powerful, important creation that man has evolved, discerning
and defining. We are all the gods.
God is within each and every oneof us.
Go at it, create your dream and make it happen.

(01:09:03):
That's what we're here to do, and we're going to become
fertilizer. But make yourself the very best
fertilizer. And remember, electromolecular
energy is infinite. That's why we're all here to to
inspire and share and interject ideas that aren't the standard
science. Beautiful.

(01:09:26):
Well said. What's next for you, Doctor
Kiltz? Anything coming up, coming down
the pipeline? They're working on books,
things, places. I'm working on a.
Couple of books I have a new keto carnivore I like though
Keto in there 'cause invites everyone but ultimately we're
carnivores. Carnivore book cookbook coming
out, you know, cooking a steak is like show the fire and eat
it. That's done.
Be it, be it. But I'm I'm writing a new book

(01:09:50):
called Christ carnivore. I believe, I believe that faith
in God is number one for all of us, no matter your political,
your religious, whatever it is you're eating habits and, and we
need to connect with our brothers and sisters and help
each other out. We're here for service.
I'm going to hack your health. I'm going to Keto San Diego, Low
Carb San Diego. We'll see if they let me talk

(01:10:13):
and share my ideas or they shut me down.
Or, you know, I'm not looking for some other scientific
project to say I'm right. I'm here to share a story that
says what if, even in our standard world, were wrong?
What if? Yeah, why not?

(01:10:34):
Amazing. Well, Doctor Kilts, by the way,
where can people go and find youonline?
I can put everything in the shownotes in terms of I know you
have a podcast, Carnivore Conversations.
I can put all that stuff, the YouTube channel in there.
Where can people find you online?
Get in touch with you, work withyou all that doctor.
Kiltz Dr. Kiltz that's it. DOCDRKILTZ all of it dot kiltz

(01:11:00):
online, you know, books, podcasts, all of this.
And I I invite everyone do it toreach out everyone, because
we're all brothers and sisters. We are all equal in the eyes of
God. And that I think is really
important to honor each other that way.
But I my cell phone you can findonline, people text me, call me.

(01:11:21):
I do my best. I'm going to jet training next
week. I got to.
I got to recertify Every year they try to kill me in a
simulator. That's.
All fun, it's all good. It's all good, all good so well.
Doctor Kiltz, I mean, this was amazing.
It was a pleasure to finally meet with, meet, meet you pick
your brain here a little bit like hear your ideas.

(01:11:43):
This was great. I had a blast chatting with you
and to everyone else out there, hope hopefully you guys enjoyed
the show. Thanks guys for listening to the
Low Carb Consultant podcast. We'll catch you guys on the next
one. Take care.
Love you my brothers and. Sisters, thanks Max appreciate
you. You got.
It.

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