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All right, guys, we're rolling and welcome back to the Low Carb
Consultant podcast. So I'm thrilled today to host
Doctor Sabrina Solt, a board certified Naturopathic Dr.
Regenerative Medicine expert andfounder of Stem Cell Therapy
Professionals in Scottsdale, AZ.So since 2013, Doctor Salt has
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been at the forefront of anti ageing, peptide therapy, stem
cell injections and carnivore based in nutrition.
She's helped thousands heal, recover and become biologically
younger, empowering everyone from the lead athletes to
everyday people. So Doctor Salt also educates
widely through content, podcastsand public summits.
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And today we're diving into the science and real world
application of low carb regenerative protocols.
So Doctor Salt, thanks so much for making the time.
It's a pleasure to finally meet you.
Oh. Well, thank you so much for
having me. That was a very lovely intro.
Thank you. Thank you.
So maybe before we jump into everything, because like I said,
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before we start the recording, I'm excited to talk about the
peptide stuff, excited to talk about stem cells and PRP and all
that good stuff. Maybe before we get into that,
could you give the listeners whowho may not know who you are
quite yet, just a real brief background on yourself and how
you specifically progressed towards this particular medical
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route? Yeah, so I knew from a young age
that I wanted to be a doctor. And so I kind of did.
I did my schooling geared towards that.
And when I was in college, I actually learned about what
naturopathic medicine was. And to me, it made the most
sense because they were teachingthat, oh, you actually figure
out what the root cause of a disease is, and then you start
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to heal people from that. And it made no sense.
And I was like, OK, you know what, let's do that.
So I decided I was going to apply to naturopathic medical
school and got in, of course, and during my time there got a
decent education. I feel like I got a pretty good
education. But honestly, the majority of
the things that I learned happened after medical school
where I kind of really started to specialize in the stuff that
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I do now, and that is the regenerative medicine stuff.
So I was able to learn from other doctors who were doing
regenerative injections on theirpatients.
I was able to learn more advanced stem cell therapies.
So being able to utilize stem cells that we actually take from
the patient's own body via theirown fat or their own bone
marrow, various other injection techniques.
And then of course, learning allabout things like peptides and
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stuff. So a lot of my education did
come host medical school even though I am trained as a
naturopathic Dr. Very cool. And it sounds like to me like
right now currently your work, it basically integrates like a
lot of these different stem, stem cell peptide PRP therapies,
but also with like a low carb orketogenic carnivore animal based
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approach. So I was curious and then again,
one of the reasons why I, I really wanted to have you on
like, how do you pair these two elements together to accelerate
whether it's healing, recovery or performance?
Well, the main reason that I pair it that way is because the
average American is metabolically unhealthy.
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I would say. I think the statistic is
something like maybe only 12% might even be less of Americans
are metabolically healthy. And a lot of that comes from
just poor diet and lifestyle choices that people makeover
many, many years and they develop things like insulin
resistance, pre diabetes, cardiovascular disease,
technically all lifestyle based diseases that can be corrected
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with the proper proper nutrition.
So when I have patients in my office and say they have a
concern of degenerative joints or a rotator cuff tear that
didn't heal or something else that happens.
A lot of times people can sustain one of those injuries.
And while the body should be able to heal it, it often
doesn't because of the the load of their terrible life choices
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leading up to it. And I shouldn't say terrible,
but choices that they didn't necessarily know would make them
more difficult, like have a moredifficult time healing in the
long term because they're poorlynourished.
They don't get enough protein in, they're just inflamed all
the time. And so that creates a recipe for
disaster. So when I get patients in and
they're say in their 40s, fifties, sixties, 70s, a lot of
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the time they've got these injuries and we have to fix them
from multiple angles because I was to just go in there and just
shoot stem cells into a joint, for example.
But they're still on those chronic inflammation because
their diets rich in processed foods, seed oils, alcohol, you
name it, they're just not going to get better longer.
And my goal is to always make sure that my patients are
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getting the best results that they possibly can.
And This is why we combine things and thankfully, you know,
with like my social media presence and the way that I'm
able to reach people through things like podcasts.
Thankfully, a lot of people whenthey come to me, they kind of
know what they're going to get. They know that we're talking
about low carb, carnivore keto, and they know we're going to be
combining a lot of these therapies.
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We know they know we're going totalk about hormones, we're going
to talk about peptides, and we're going to utilize
regenerative injections to really create this like robust
plan that actually allows them to heal in a way that they
wouldn't be able to. Yeah, that's, that's really,
really awesome that you find a way to kind of combine like, you
know, basically because low carb, ketogenic, carnivore, it's
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it's 100% like an anti-inflammatory diet.
And so it would make sense, right, if someone's coming in
that you would pair them up withnot only like a treatment plan,
but also a diet plan to lower inflammation as much as we
possibly can. But that's 100% going to
accelerate healing. And that makes all the sense in
the world to me. So here, here's when, where I
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wanted to get into like the peptide stem cell stuff.
Because you know, I, I feel likewe hear about all these, these
treatments all the time. Like on Joe Rogan talks about
going down, getting stem cells in his shoulder and all those
types of things and PRP and hormones and all those types of
things. So like when and maybe what
situation or injury or circumstance would you use a
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peptide and then PRP and then stem cells like, because then we
could, because I want to talk toyou about BPC 157, which is a,
which is a very, I would say at this point well known peptide
for like recovery and, and, and those types of things.
But I guess in what severity of injury and what case do you use
these different protocols, if that makes sense?
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Yeah. I would say so.
Anything that's like an acute sprain or strain, you'll want to
get some BPC 157 in there. I think it's peptide.
It's one of the ones that's actually available direct to
consumer and it's pretty safe, very well tolerated by pretty
much everybody and it's effective.
And sometimes some people respond faster to it or better
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to it than others. So some people they can take it
for a month and they can notice really big changes.
Some people have to be on it longer somewhere three to six
months and then they'll finally start to notice those changes.
When it comes to something like PRP, that's going to be our, for
your, I would say mild concerns.You're not going to want to
throw PRP into like a very severely degenerated knee.
You'll, you'll maybe want to useit on a knee that has mild
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degeneration or a mild rotator cuff tear.
It's, it's can be, it's great. PRP is wonderful, but the
quality of the PRP can change depending on the individual
patient's age and general healthstatus.
And that's the blood. That's the blood spinning 1,
correct? Yep.
So got it. Stands for platelet rich Plasmas
and it's, it's something that weget from a person's own blood.
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The amount of blood that we takeout is usually about a 10th of
what you might give in a blood donation, just depending on how
much we need and what how many areas we're treating.
So it's not a large amount at all.
So, and it's no more difficult than a simple blood draw the
whole time you're in the clinic,at least in my space, it's about
an hour start to finish to do a treatment of one or two areas.
And the cool thing with PRP is that we can use it for pretty
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much anything. Literally head to toe.
You can put PRP almost anywhere.Interesting.
OK. So then when would the the the
stem cell portion come into playor I guess is that maybe a
little bit more when it a littlebit more of a severe injury?
Stem cells are going to be really, really powerful.
So you want to think about usingstem cells for things that are
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more severe. In my clinical experience, any
sort of labral tear, whether it's the shoulder labrum or the
hip labrum, almost always requires stem cells.
PRP just usually isn't strong enough for those.
And then anytime you have reallysevere damage or degeneration in
the area, things like really severe spinal injuries, the
things like degenerative just disease, the set arthropathies,
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other issues that can occur in the spine.
There's a addition that I treat a lot of called arachnoiditis.
And it's actually a severe tethering and scar tissue
formation of the spinal cord that often causes patients to
completely lose function of bowel, bladder, sexual function.
Sometimes they even end up paralyzed in wheelchairs, lose
the ability to walk, intense pain.
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We've used stem cells successfully in those cases with
some pretty great results and. Is that just out of curiosity,
is that just like an autoimmune issue that gets worse over time
or like the. Majority of the cases of
arachnoiditis that I see actually began as a result of a
of a medical injury. We'll say so.
Got. It I was.
Like an epidural gone wrong. So whether it was a villain
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childbirth or somebody who had just garden variety back pain
will say, like maybe they had one slipped disc and they go in
for an epidural for pain relief and something gets messed up
there. And then it can eventually lead
to arachnoiditis. So pretty sad, yeah.
No, that's, that's terrible. OK, So in terms of like peptides
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like right now, I mean, I would say BPC 15 sevens out there,
Surmarellan's out there. I, I was curious, what do you
find your 'cause I, so from whatI know, correct me obviously if
I'm wrong here, but I think a lot of people, they, they're
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hearing about these peptides andI feel like some people get a
little skittish or scared like they're getting close to like
maybe like the steroid route, but that's not, that's not
really peptide at all. I, I feel like there's a little
bit of a, there's a little bit of a, a thing there with people
not really fully understanding them.
But peptides, from what I know, are naturally occurring elements
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or compounds within our body that that we actually can make
the peptide out of, right? Exactly.
Yeah, they're just sequences of amino acids.
So anytime that you like, we're in the low carb space, we eat a
lot of protein. Anytime your body takes in some
sort of protein and it goes through your digestive system,
it cleaves that protein into individual amino acids.
And then your body is very intelligent.
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It has enzymes and things that basically come in and say, OK,
we're going to take these individual amino acids and we're
going to rebuild them into a peptide.
And then that peptide is what will actually signal in your
body to do a job. The most common peptide that
people are people. We know what we know about
collagen, of course, and people know about insulin and we're
familiar with those. So collagen is.
A peptide, technically. Yeah, it's just three different.
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Interesting. OK.
And then, sorry, I didn't mean to cut you off.
Where were the other ones? Insulin?
Really basic peptide, right? So keep, I usually explain that
people, yeah, those are peptides.
They're they're signaling molecules.
They're useful in the body, but there's thousands of peptides
that run different things in thebody.
So like BPC 157 for example, stands for Body Protection
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compound 157. And that's actually naturally
occurring in our own digestive juices, in our own in our
stomach basically. And what's really neat about
that is that because it's naturally occurring in our
stomach, that's why we can actually take that one as an
oral peptide. Whereas many of them, they do
have to be delivered via either injection or sublingual, or
sometimes there's a nasal spray.Because like I was saying, with
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the digestive process, again, ifyou take in those peptides or
those amino acids, the body willjust break them apart, except
for BPC 157. Interesting.
So here's why I asked about BPC 157.
So I saw a clip about you is on Instagram talking about peptide
timing injections and timing theinjections around when your body
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is naturally either producing the element or the hormone.
If it's like a Surmarellan type of like GH shot, you want to do
it at night. Is that true for all peptides or
some of them? Because for instance, I took
Surmarellan and I was injecting that mainly because I got my
blood work done. I was a little low on growth
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hormone. I get my blood work done through
Merrick. So that's, that's what I, I
ended up giving a shot and it worked.
The sleep was amazing, by the way, on Summerlin, it was wild
how deep the sleep was, but I was injecting that like 20
minutes before bed. And right now I injured my knee
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last month on a run and I am injecting BPC 157 directly into
the kneecap into like the the the fatty area of the knee where
there's no pain. I don't have any issues doing
it. But I was curious like are
there, is that true for all peptides, the timing around them
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you want to be aware of when you're injecting certain
peptides and the timing And is that true for all of them
basically not? All of them have to have
specific timing, but you are right that some of them do.
So like any growth hormone releasing peptide, you do want
to get it into your system shortly before bedtime because
that's when your body is going to naturally want to produce
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growth hormone. So that's when you want to be
causing that stimulation. And it's important to also make
sure that that one with the timing is that it's at least
about two hours after your last meal.
So people who generally eat lateat night, sometimes those
peptides don't mesh well with their with their lifestyle
because you want to be finished eating and then taking it kind
of right before you go to bed. So it's kicking in when you're
heading those first stages of sleep.
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There's another peptide called aPidalon and this one, it's
actually great for helping lengthen telomeres, but it has
an effect on sleep too. So that's another one that you
would want to be doing at bedtime, but that one's usually
only three nights a week. There's another peptide that's
the copper peptide, the GHKCU. That one is great for collagen
synthesis, skin health. It helps activate some anti
aging genes. Great for overall blood flow.
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It's got a lot it's, it's a great peptide.
That one I tell people to usually actually inject that
during the day because it alwaysstings and makes the area where
you inject it really quite itchy.
So it can be very irritating if you take that one at night.
There's another peptide out there called PT141.
It also goes by the name Bremelanotide and it also is
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actually available as a prescription medication called
Vyleesi, and it's approved for what we call what they call
female hypo arousal disorder. Basically women who have a
difficult time getting in the mood.
Got you. Now this one, you have to have
time before you want to engage in intimacy, understood by
anywhere from 30 minutes to two hours.
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There's a couple other ones likeMOT C for example.
Really, it's kind of like an exercise mimetic to a degree,
but you'll actually want to timethat one for about 30 minutes
prior to your heaviest workouts of the week because that's
usually only twice a week dosingone.
What's that? One called.
MOT. C MOT.
C and and what how does it work?What is it?
What does it enhance? Like just overall energy or it's
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a. Mitochondrial enhancer, Yeah, it
can be really stimulating for a lot of people, for sure.
Very, very cool. Yeah.
So there's, there's so many out there.
And the interesting thing, I mean, and then there's some
that'll, that we can do those nasal sprays for cognitive
functioning. You'll definitely want to do
those during the daytime becauseagain, they can be stimulating,
they can prevent you from sleeping.
But there's, and there's just somany.
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And it really depends like what the goals are, because a lot of
times what we'll do is we'll stack 2 to 3 peptides at a time
and we might do a cycle for about 3 months and then we'll
move on to something else. Gotcha.
What do you find are like the most common peptides that you're
prescribing right now 'cause I'msure like some are more popular
than others and more common. Yeah.
And a lot of times we start withsomething like ABPC and a
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Sermoralin combination, plus like one other one, depending on
what our goals are. If somebody has an autoimmune
disorder, I almost always throw in the thymus and A1 peptide.
I've had phenomenal results withwith that one in my patients
that have Hashimoto's, rheumatoid arthritis.
Even in my patients that just have really severe seasonal
allergies, that peptide has beenamazing.
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Very cool, very cool. Going back to the diet stuff
really quickly because this justpopped into my mind because I'm
sure you know, going through, you know, traditional like
medical school and stuff like you.
I, I'm, I'm pretty sure they weren't talking about carnivore
diets. And in there what, what
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initially gave you the idea of like going carnivore in the
first praise place? Like were you running into any
like of your own issues where it's like, I'm going to try this
or like, how did that, how did that come about so.
The person that actually inspired me to do carnivore was
my now ex-husband when we were married at the time.
And he started doing it to help with his and he had talked about
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this openly on his YouTube channel, Instagram.
So I'm not saying anything that hasn't already been said, but he
had originally went on it to help with controlling his
addictive personality. He wanted to basically remove as
much as he could, start healing things.
And I was like, well, you're completely crazy because I was
trained as a naturopath doctor and naturopathic medical school.
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Everything is all about plants and all the great things that
plants can do for you and very much plant based diets like
people doing green juices all the time.
Like it was a whole 9 with plants.
And so I thought he was crazy. But at that time I had, I had
been suffering with health issues for probably going on 2
decades, digestive issues, I would get acne.
I had really severe upper back and neck pain.
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Gosh, I had, I said I had acne anxiety was the other one.
So I was not in a great place. And I was like, you know what, I
watched him get better over likea few months.
I saw like the whites of his eyes get whiter.
He was in a better mood. He was more stable.
It's like, you know what, there's something to this.
I'm just going to give it a shot.
And within about six months, allof my health issues went away.
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It was. It was.
Really dramatic. And so that was about about 3
1/2 years ago, beginning of 20, like very beginning of 22.
And I've, I've been on it ever since and it's been, you know,
people think like, Oh my gosh, it's so restrictive whatnot.
And it's not, it's actually the most freedom that I've ever had
because I know what I need to eat to make me feel my best and
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to keep me just in a high performance state pretty much
all the time. It's been wonderful.
I would First off, that's, that's amazing that you had that
experience with it. And I to be honest with you, I,
I mean, I had done keto for a year.
I've done start carnivore for a year.
And now I, you know, I, I kind of flex all these different low
carb variations. Like I like one day I'll have
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low carb, one day it's keto, oneday it's carnivore.
And it just gives me a lot of meal variety and it works well
for me and what I'm doing. But like, yeah, it is so funny.
I talked to so many people about, you know, their
experience with carnivore. It's literally just the same
story over and over and over again in a matter of months,
like all the health issues, skinissues, autoimmune problems,
digestive issues, mental health issues literally just vanish.
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You know, it's wild. It's wild.
Very that's very, very cool. So take me through a day like
like, let's say, because I want to get into like your workouts
and how you train. And if anyone obviously I'll put
like your Instagram into the show notes and people are going
to go there and be like, OK, wow, Sabrina Sultan, fantastic
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shape. Like what is she doing?
Can you take me through a day just like a like a typical day
from the time you get up? Like when do you have your first
meal? Do you drink coffee?
When do you work out? And then till till the evening
time. Just so we can get a good idea
of what what Sabrina's routine looks like.
Yeah. And thank you for saying that.
It's, you know, I've always really been into like health and
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fitness, but as far as like maintaining body composition and
just being the state that I'm atnow, it's been the easiest that
it's been my entire life. And I'm obviously the oldest
that I've ever been. So I think that's a testament to
to just the power of a proper diet.
And I agree with you. Like low carb, I think is the
thing that works best for a lot of people.
I wouldn't say I'm not 100% strict carnivore.
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Like I do eat things like avocado.
I throw in coffee I am guilty ofindulging in like a gluten free
dessert if it still checks my other boxes.
Like it still has to be gluten free, still has to be seed oil
free, like it still has to checkother other things.
But once in a while if it's not going to bother me I'll go for
it. But a normal day I would say
work days because they're a little different than weekends.
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Work days I'm usually up some somewhere between 5:00 and 6:00
in the morning. I always have my red light on as
I'm like getting ready during the day.
I love I love red light. Now I usually have coffee.
I know I'm terrible. People are going to be like, Oh
my gosh, she has coffee first thing in the morning, but I'm.
I'm trying to cut back too. So I'm yeah, that was another
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thing that the blood work was telling me to like, you got to
reel that in. And I have, but it's hard.
It's it's hard it. Is, and you know what I, I'm
under my labs too, of course, and I'm always really try to, I
try to be very cognizant of whatmy hormones are doing with my
cortisol's doing and it just accordingly right now my coffee
is working for me, but I do, I do a really fatty coffee, so I
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add in I usually do, I put some salt in it because coffee does
deplete your mineral, but I willalso add in I usually do heavy
cream, MCT oil and butter. So it's.
Almost like a bullet. A bulletproof ish coffee, yeah.
I would say it's probably a goodlike 400 calories of just like a
fat bomb and that's enough to keep me in ketosis and keep me
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going until my first meal, whichdepending on the day is sometime
usually between like 11:30 and 1:00 or 2:00.
Just depends on where my hungry cues are that day.
And if I'm at my office, I usually get a burger Patty with
cheese, bacon, avocado, and that's usually enough to get me
until when I'm home. And then once I'm home, dinner
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is usually I go back and forth depending on what I'm in the
mood for. Some weeks, I'll go to Costco,
I'll pick up a pack of rib eyes and that'll be my dinner for
that week. Just the rib eyes.
Sometimes I'm in a mood for ground beef.
And what I usually do is I'll make ground beef and I'll put
eggs in it. And I love how like the egg
yolks when you cook it with the ground beef will actually like
soak up all the excess rendered fat.
So ends up just being like this really high fat, delicious meal
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dessert. I love.
Like there's this one specific yogurt.
It's like the Painter Land Sisters yogurt.
I don't know if you've ever had it, but it's like I feel like.
I've seen it. They don't sell it at Costco
because I was at Costco today. Sprouts, I get it at Sprouts.
We probably have it at Whole Foods too, but it's like thick
like this, like ice cream and it's just so decadent.
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I love it. And then before bed, I usually
have a magnesium drink and that's pretty much my day.
I do take a couple supplements in the morning.
I was going to ask. You about supplements?
Yeah, Yep. I so when I was nursing, I'm
still doing it now, but I was mainly doing it for when I was
nursing my last baby. I would take like half a scoop
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of a prenatal, like a powdered prenatal and I would put it in
my coffee just because when you're nursing babies, you just
are so nutrient depleted regardless.
And I just kind of kept that habit going.
I don't feel like I need it, butit's just nice to have an extra
boost. And then I also see I have a
supplement that I actually brought to market.
It's called Oyster Boom. And it is a lot of people have
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heard of liver pills, right? Sure.
So it's same concept, but oysters.
So all the benefits that you would get from eating oysters
except in a capsule form, SO1 serving is like you would just
like eating seven large oysters.So you get all the minerals that
you'd normally get. So.
Cool, it's. Phenomenal.
I, I took it for six months, tried it myself before.
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I like, I decided to put my namebehind it and like put it out
there. But I love that stuff and I take
it continuously. I take it every single day.
It's one of my favorite supplements.
And then I usually will actuallytake a BPC 157 and I'll kind of
cycle that like I'll take it fora month.
I might take a week off just cuzI'm always in the gym, I'm
always working out And so I'm always just trying to make sure
I'm healing as best as I can. What else do I take?
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Oh, I started taking, it's been about, I'm like about month 4 of
taking a Urolithin A it's, it's called Mitopure.
It's by a company called fine line.
I don't know if you've heard of it, but the whole idea behind
that is that it helps you just create more muscle by enhancing
mitochondrial function. And I was like, OK, I'm kind of
suspicious of this. It's one supplement.
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The research seems pretty good. I'm just going to see how it
goes. And so as far as my workouts go,
I do workout with the trainer and we have an app that tracks
all my workouts, all my weights and everything.
And in month 2, the amount that I was able to increase on my
weights, reps, all the things just month over month was
astounding. My trainer was like, what the
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heck did you do? I was like, the only thing I did
was I started this supplement and it was crazy.
I was thinking about about 2 1/2months.
I put on like 3 lbs of muscle. What?
What was the name of that supplement again?
I don't know. Look into it.
It's. Uro, it's urolithin a that's the
that's the ingredient. The company that I use.
It's called timeline and it's like the name.
That's like mido pier. And I'm not trying to plug it on
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purpose. I'm just like I I was floored by
it in my own personal results. You still have to put in the
work, but even if you don't likework out, you're still going to
put on some muscle, which was wild to me because this is a
battle that I have with patientstoo, is that, I mean, I need, I
need my patients to have more muscle.
Everybody should have more muscle like arguably.
So that's, that's been a really neat supplement for sure.
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And that's really it. I'm kind of a minimalist on
supplements, believe it or not, especially being a naturopathic
Dr. But I'll usually do things short term as needed just for
just for whatever purpose I'm trying to achieve at the time.
And then as far as workouts go, I work out, I have a trainer
that I work out with two days a week for an hour.
And again, we have very specificgoals.
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I really started going to him because I realized that I had
some imbalances in my body and, you know, my shoes were wearing
weird on one side and I was like, there's something going
on. Like things are just imbalanced.
And with being a mom, you're always carrying a child on one
side. My dude, it's so funny that you
said that. So my wife, me, it was wild
because I remember with our first born, he was always on
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momma's hip and it was funny because she was like one day she
she's like Max come in here and like look at look in the mirror
with me real quick. And from carrying carrying our
son on the side of her hip, her whole entire body, like her
whole frame was like literally shifted cock eyed basically.
And she had to go through like several rounds of going through
a chiropractor. But yeah, it's funny that you
said that cuz my wife had the exact same thing.
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It's. True, I think it happens to a
lot of women more than we notice.
And then because my whole, my whole practice, my whole what I
do for a living is I put people back together who didn't fix
these problems when they first started.
So I'm very hyper aware of my own life and things that I need
to be doing to basically preventhaving to ever need me.
So I'm very cognizant about that.
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So I work out with my trainer, we purposely rebalance sort of
things. And then I usually work out two
other times a week, but I'm on my own.
So both 4 workouts a week, usually about an hour each.
And then I really try to prioritize getting enough sleep.
I usually get anywhere from like7 to 8 hours, very rarely closer
to 6. Gotcha.
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OK, very cool. And it's typically like like
strength training. Lifting.
Heavyweight compound movements type of deal.
All weight training. I don't really do cardio, and
not because I don't like cardio or don't believe in cardio, but
I was born with something calleda patent frame in Ovalli, which
is a hole in my heart. So anytime I do any sort of
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sustained cardio, I can't breathe.
Even going upstairs too fast, I can't breathe.
And it's actually I I felt embarrassed my entire life
because I'm like, I'm not out ofshape, but I can't ever breathe.
And it wasn't until I actually had a mini stroke last January
that they figured out what that they figured out that was the
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problem. Oh, you didn't even.
Know you had it until like untilI was like 1/2 a year ago, yeah.
A year and a half ago, yeah, I went, I went basically my entire
life with doctors always tellingme, oh, you're just out of shape
because I'd be like, hi, I can'tbreathe.
Like, help me out here. And they'd be like, oh, yeah,
you just need to get in better shape.
I'm like, I've been doing that for decades.
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And Nope. And finally.
And, you know, thankfully, blessing in disguise.
And it was, it was very scary time for sure, but it got the
diagnosis. Now I know.
And so now I'm just, you know, very cognizant of making sure
that I'm that I'm extra careful about how I live my life to not
do anything that may potentiallycause any sort of embolism or
potential future stroke. Yeah.
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Well, and that obviously makes alot of sense, and I think it
kind of reminds me of all the Peter Attia stories I'll see on
Instagram where he's talking about VO2 Max and those types of
things. But like really at the end of
the day, I think for people to get the most out of their body,
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their lifespan and improve and increase longevity and keep it
as high as we possibly can. Like it's, it really is just
comes down to strength training.You know, it's like you don't
necessarily need to be able to run like 1/2 marathon or a
marathon, you know, but if you can like pick up heavy weights,
that's going to help with your bone density.
That's what's probably going to get you the biggest bang for the
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buck no matter what and no matter what kind of health
circumstance you were born with or what you're dealing with.
You know what I mean, 100. Percent and I will say I can run
sprints, so I was gonna. Ask about if you do that.
Yep. So I can hit like 30 seconds
really hard and then take the like minute, minute and a half
break, hit the 30 seconds and that seems to do fine.
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But any sort of like up down movements I really struggle
with. I'll do them like I'll do split
squats, I'll do my goblet squats.
But like they really tax me because again, the blood, it
shunts across my heart where it's not supposed to go.
So I'm not getting fully oxygenated.
And it's it's just like really easy for me to get dizzy, pass
out potentially. So it's like typically on
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specific movements like a down up, like you were saying, like a
squat, like going down and lifting up like that, that that
type of movement is what kind ofgives you aggravation.
Yep. Those types of movements, they
say going up and down stairs andthen any sort of steady state
cardio, I can't keep up with that for more than like 5
minutes. Gotcha.
So what what are your typical lifts in the gym when you go in
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and strength train taking into consideration like the the
condition you're kind of trying to work around?
We do a lot of hinge based stufflike we'll do a lot of squats,
we'll do a lot of hip thrusts. We do a lot of like squat
variations, lunge variations andthen we'll do a lot of like push
pull stuff. So we'll do you know, and and it
varies like a lot of it is just a lot of it is compound
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movements. Like we don't necessarily go in
and do like biceps and triceps. We'll do pull ups and we'll do
different variations of pull ups, different arm positions and
one not same with different pulldowns.
You might do narrow grip, wide grip, just overall building,
Yeah, no. That makes all the sense in the
world to me because I the individual I had on right before
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you, it was Ted Naman and we were talking about working out
and all that guy does is pull ups and dips and like lunges and
that's basically his whole entire workout.
Like very minimal weight, just all body weight.
And that's what he does. But no, that's really, really
awesome. And I'm, I'm, I'm curious going
back to like your practice and who you typically see.
So is the majority of like the patients you see, is it, is it
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like a 5050 split between femaleand male?
Is it primarily more male? I was just kind of curious to
see who you're you're dealing with on a regular basis.
I would. Say I actually see a lot more
women than men, but a lot of thetime once the female comes in,
usually her partner husband is to some degree.
And I think it's because just women are more, they just search
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out this stuff more, I think. And I not to say that men don't,
there's definitely a fair share of men that they find their way
to me, but I do work a lot more with women.
Interesting. Yeah, I'll my, my, my wife would
probably love working with you. She's into all this stuff just
as I am. And you know, we, it's kind of
like, I guess you could say likehelps keep the marriage alive a
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little bit having like those, those things in common.
But you know, she's on her own little personal health journey
trying to fix all the little things.
I'm, I'm doing the same thing, trying to fix all the little
things. So I'll, I'll definitely make
sure to point, point her in yourdirection.
Yeah, no, very cool. Going back to what we were
talking about earlier when in regards to like when you were
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talking about nursing and we were chatting about kids a
little bit earlier. I, I think you were on a
podcast, I forgot the name of it, but you were dressing
pregnancy like breastfeeding, fertility and I think erectile
dysfunction on like a carnivore diet.
Like, what are the top considerations you find
clinicians are overlooking when they're treating these different
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aspects that people are ultimately trying to solve or
work through? I'll give you a really
interesting, an interesting example.
So when women are pregnant and they have to undergo that
glucose tolerance test, I was actually just talking to a
friend of mine. He's a physician as well.
And his wife is very low carb, pretty much carnivore.
She like she's and she's pregnant currently.
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And he was talking to me and he's like, listen, he's like she
did her glucose tolerance test and she failed it.
I was like, OK, let's talk aboutthis.
And he's like, she's low carb, she's basically carnivore, like
she's enough. No health problems whatsoever.
She's a completely normal size, normal weight.
She's fit, she lifts weights, she's healthy as can be young.
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Her A1C was like 4.6. Her fasting insulin was super
low. Her blood glucose was running
normally, but she failed the glucose tolerance test and they
wanted to slap on a diagnosis ofher gestational diabetes.
They wanted to get her on insulin.
And I was like, in my opinion, and this is not medical advice
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to anybody listening, you shouldstill talk to your doctor.
But in my opinion, they created a pathology in her because in no
way, shape or form would she actually consume that much pure
glucose in one sitting to be able to harm the baby.
So to my, in my, in my opinion, I think that that aspect for a
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healthy person who may be going into pregnancy, low carb or
carnivore, to just be cognizant that you may fail that test, but
it doesn't mean that you actually have gestational
diabetes. It could just be that that
pathology was created because you had such a massive amount of
glucose that your body wouldn't normally take in any way.
And so I just, I get so frustrated by the traditional
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model in some ways. And this is one of them.
And they they really do create it is these circumstances around
pregnancy that make a woman completely doubt her ability to
to carry this pregnancy successfully.
And everything is doctor's visits and as you should take
this vaccine that's ever been tested in pregnant women and you
should be, you know, here you should definitely like avoid,
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you know, fish, for example, because the potential announce
of mercury. But you know, when, when you get
those like WIC coupons, like thewomen and children financial aid
stuff, they can buy all the processed food they want.
And so it, to me, it's just sucha backwards messed up system.
And I personally, I, I have a video on my YouTube channel and
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it's when I had my last pregnancy, I basically did a
whole recollection of my first like 25 weeks of that pregnancy.
And I didn't do a second one because nothing had really
changed. But women still find it and they
still get, I think a lot of helpfrom it because I just kind of
went through and I normalized like what the experience, my
experience was doing carnivore from breastfeeding a previous
child, getting into pregnancy. And then of course, I did
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breastfeed while being carnivorefor that second one, for that
third one too. Yeah.
No, that's really interesting. And that kind of leads that
almost like easily segues me into the next question I wanted
to ask you about because, you know, you're pretty, I would say
open in terms of sharing like your life, your family, your
kids, how you guys live and eat on Instagram.
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And it shows kind of like familylife on on a carnivore diet.
How you know now that your kids are getting a little bit older.
And I forgot the ages when you were talking about earlier, but
it sounds like they're beyond nursing and they're starting to
eat, right. Yeah.
How do you manage your like kidsnutrition?
Like do you find that difficult to do or not so much Just out of
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curiosity and like what it wouldhave been kind of like the
trials and tribulations there. Yeah, so I've got currently they
are 7 four and the baby's actually almost 2 now, which is
crazy to me because I like it feels not too long ago at all.
And it is challenging because they're all very different.
And my daughter, my oldest, she was of course a baby and a
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toddler before I was carnivore. So she got exposed to other
things. And this girl's adorable.
Like the other day she begged meto take her to this, this like
fast food place here and it's called salad and go.
And they let they make these like organic salads.
And this girl wanted a salad. And I was just, I just to myself
and I'm like, you know what, I feel like no matter how you
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raise your children, like they're going to just want to do
the opposite because that's whatchildren do.
But in the house, we, I really try to prioritize like when I'm
making them meals like breakfasts and dinners, we just,
they eat what I'm going to eat. My daughter, she like if I'm
making like a ground beef and egg dish, for example, she likes
sauerkraut on hers. Fine, I'll give her the
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sauerkraut. Like I'm not, I'm not opposed to
it. It's not anything bad but like
they're or like if we're, if I'mgonna eat some meatballs, for
example, they might have like a gluten free rice pasta with it
cuz they want that and I don't withhold things like that from
them. Or like if they're out at a
party or something. I'm not like insanely strict
because it's very, very few and far between for their lunches, I
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usually make sure that the majority of their lunches is
either like meat based or fruit.And then maybe like one sort of
like snack thing like I'll buy like the organic snack things
like the organic gummies and stuff like that for them.
And they still eat like they'll eat those, but they eat their
good stuff too. And my, my goal, I just don't
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want to create. I don't want to create super
picky eaters. I don't want to create any sort
of food disorders. I don't call them eating
disorders, but just like disordered thinking and
selection around food. I want them to basically
understand why we eat the way that we do and how they feel
when they eat that way. So even if they are going out
somewhere like to a birthday party and they have a piece of
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cake or they have something else, we'll talk about how they
feel after. And they know like they know
that hurt my stomach. They know that they have a
headache, like they know that their body doesn't feel good.
And so my goal is to just educate so that they do make
better choices when they do become an adult, because
ultimately they will like they're, they're going to be
not, they're going to be making more, more and more food choices
away from me than they are goingto be with me as they get older.
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So the my goal is, is not to do it rigid and rule like, but in a
way that teaches and educates them.
A. 100%, I would 1000% agree with you.
Like that's basically all you can do, you know, and that's,
that's essentially what we're trying to do with our, our
children right now, especially, you know, my daughter who's 6.
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Like I'm very careful, you know,in regards to like, you know
what, not not just what we buy, I'm very particular about like
what we buy and what we feed ourkids.
But like also too, I don't want her to kind of see sometimes I
worry about not like the way that I eat is crazy.
Like it's, it's, it's not, it's,it's, I would say it's low carb
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kit. It's in a carnivore approach.
But I'm also cognizant of sometimes thinking to myself
like, OK, like my daughter for here's a great, for example, my
daughter the other day was like,Daddy, how come you don't eat
breakfast? You know, and I was like, how do
I answer this question? Because, you know, I know that
my answers, this might be potentially a big one that
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sticks in her mind and, you know, kind of cultivates how she
does things and makes decisions like down the line, you know,
and I just said, you know what? Daddy's not really hungry, you
know, Daddy, Daddy just has a big lunch and a big dinner.
And and not that works for Daddy, but breakfast is
important for you, you know, So what, what I try to do is like,
again, like going back to what you're saying, I try to avoid
anything that might create any sort of like potential
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disordered eating situation. And at the same time, too, I
want to just let them be kids, you know?
But like, I can control as long as I can control the food in the
house and what's available to them.
And then they can kind of make their own decisions and we can
maybe guide them along the way. That's kind of how we go about
it. But I'm kind of picking up what
you're putting down there. Yeah.
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And it's never gonna be easy. You think you're gonna do
everything right, and there's always going to be something
unexpected, unfortunately. And the best that we can do is
just the best that we can do. And I, it's not something that I
want to be a point of stress because, you know, I, I grew up
in like a very traditional Italian family.
And so meals were always just a place of connection and being
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together. And while they didn't
necessarily serve me long term, you know, I grew up eating a lot
of pasta and ended up with a gluten tolerance, right?
Like it just, it didn't work forme, but food was, it was a place
of joy. It wasn't a place of stress.
And that's what I want to createfor my children is that, hey,
food, food's delicious. Food can nourish us.
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Food can help us like reach our goals.
And then I try to model that too, just like you and my, my
kids do ask me, like they've asked me why I don't eat
breakfast or they ask like, oh, why are you just eating steak?
Or why that's what? And I, I just explained to them,
like, even if we go out, like I take my kids to in and out and I
get just like the Flying Dutchman.
And the more that I do that, they're so.
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Good too. But the more that they see me
doing that, the more they actually want to change what
they're getting. So my daughter has said before
she goes, oh, well, maybe I can get it with, like, the lettuce
wrap instead of the bun. And I was like, yeah, for sure.
But I'm not going to force it, You know, It's so they learn,
watch. And I think leading by example
is an important thing to do too.100%, no, very, very well said.
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And I wanted to kind of flip back and talk more about like
the clinical work and regenerative approach that you
take in terms of like what wouldyou say and what you see right
now, Like what's like the biggest nutrition or
regenerative myth that you're encountering like on a
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day-to-day basis? How do you typically like debunk
it? Like you have people coming in
with like certain types of like thoughts, ideas around carnivore
or peptides or stem cells or hormones.
Like what do you typically see alot when you have incoming
patients? The.
Biggest myth that I'm still dispelling, I would say multiple
times a week at this point is the cholesterol myth that high
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cholesterol definitely means that your arteries are clogged
and you're going to die of heartdisease and that eating a
carnivore diet is going to causethat and, or make it worse.
So of course in this space, people, if they're watching a
channel, I'm sure they're, they're more than aware that,
you know, the high cholesterol doesn't mean the cholesterol is
problematic and it doesn't necessarily mean that it's
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causing ethology in the body. You have to investigate further.
It also doesn't mean that going on a carnivore diet and the
increase that you may see in cholesterol is immediately going
to start causing problems too. So a lot of it is education with
people just surrounding how sugar and car processed
carbohydrates, processed foods, seed oils in the diet are
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actually the things that are more problematic than saturated
fat. And eventually it's just
switching their minds that ever so slightly.
So they do start to believe thatthese that saturated fat is way
more friendly to them than the heart healthy canola oil.
Totally. Totally.
Yeah. I mean, and who, I was talking
to the carnivore Dr. the other week and she's been on a say
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that again, Doctor. Lisa yes.
Yeah, Doctor Lisa, and I mean, she's been carnivore for I
believe 16 years and she's doinggreat.
I mean, she's thriving, she's living life and she looks great
for her age and all the things. And it's just like pretty
simple, you know, like, you know, we were talking about like
going down to like a Whole Foodsbased approach.
Like if it comes in like a bottle or a box or a bag or a
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jar, it's like, you know, I guarantee, not necessarily
guarantee, but it's pretty closeto a guarantee.
Like that food is manufactured for like shelf life.
It's not healthy if you stick tolike meat, primarily meat
protein and veggies or meat, veggies, fruit.
Like if you want to stick with those three things and like kind
of navigate your way through what works for you and what
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doesn't, that's probably a pretty good place to start.
But like getting the oils that come in the plastic jars or the
big jugs or whatever, it's like,you know, are you really, you
really you really sure that that's doing you any favors down
the line and that's better for you than maybe like the fat
that's on the the cap of a rib eye, Like no.
Exactly. And the other thing too is like,
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I will sometimes drive down the road and I look around and I see
all the fast food restaurants and I see they're large.
They're on these big plots of lands.
They all have cars in the drive throughs.
There's people in there and there's hundreds of them and I
think to myself like, man, it's just a seed oil storm out there
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because that's all of these foods are in and you just look
in general at all the restaurants that are out there
and they're all still open. It's because people are still
making these choices and they are eating at these places.
And you know, we're in kind of like our own little bubble.
And I don't want to necessarily call it an echo chamber, but the
the truth is, is that there are so many people out there that
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they really need their way of thinking challenge.
And I just think of a, if we could even just tap into like 1%
of that, the ripple effect that it would have with how they
would start telling their friends and family they would
get off their medications, they would become healthier.
Like there's still so much work that we have to do.
And I'm so grateful for people like you could do the podcast.
And Doctor Lisa has been, you know, speaking on this for like
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since 16 years she's been on thecarnivore diet.
And not everybody, I think like she was saying has to go
carnivore, but we if we can at least get them away from these
processed food places, all thesefast food restaurants, we would
see a totally different world. Oh. 1000% And I, I, I, I, I
think about this all the time and I, I really honestly think
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it, it just comes down to ease and comfort, right?
Like, and obviously to like a lot of these foods are hyper
palatable, but this is what I was also talking to her about.
It's like everything that's on ashelf in a grocery store.
It's like they have millions of dollars behind that product with
testing, marketing scientists like engineering the food.
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So it's got a crunch, it tastes good.
It hits our, it hits our tongue.It like all the dopamine
receptors go crazy. Like we want to buy more of it.
Like that's why it's designed. It's literally designed for us
to buy it and consume more of it, not for our health.
But with the fast food thing, it's like the, the, the one
thing that I think we're we're probably always going to have
trouble with is human beings like being comfortable and they
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like things that are easy and going through a drive through is
easy. Not only is the food delicious
because it's designed that way, but it's also easy.
You don't have to cook right? You don't have to put in any
time or effort into cooking. You don't got to go to the
store. You don't got to figure out
what's for dinner. You pop in through the drive
through. I do get it.
I do forget that, but I think ifpeople were to maybe just kind
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of open their eyes a little bit and just and just realize like,
you know what, like even if people just started cooking at
home, that would be like more cooking at home.
Yes, it's it's a little time consuming 100% like a meal prep
every Sunday. It's a couple hours, but it's
like we got food for the entire week, but it's like the whole
entire week is set up. We don't really care or know or
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have to guess about what's for dinner.
It's already made ready to go, you know what I mean?
And I think if more people were to even just go like the home
cooking route rather than what'seasy, that would help a lot with
just health in general. But then it then then the shift
also needs to be around, OK, like, well, now what type of
food are we cooking at home? Like, are we cooking, like, the
pastas and the Cup of noodles, or are we making bacon and eggs
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and steak and, like, things thatare going to nourish our body
and help us live longer? I don't know what your thoughts
are on that. But like, I just think it's the
ease thing. People wants what's easy.
And the problem is I just don't know if that's ever going away.
Yeah. And it's such a good point.
And I think like in our little sphere, our little circle that
we're in, we're in this like, I would say even less than 1% of
the population where we've takenthis diet stuff to a very, I
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wouldn't call it an extreme because for us it's not, it's
just how how we live and it works for us.
But it can look extreme to somebody else who's like who's
just living a standard American lifestyle.
And I'll tell you an example. I had a patient and it had been
I think over a year since I had seen him.
He'd come in for a procedure. We came in back for another one.
And his follow up, he was like, yeah, I lost 85 lbs.
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And this is a gentleman from theSouth.
He's from the South. OK, for him to lose 85 lbs, all
he did was cut out Coca-Cola, chocolate milk and orange juice.
Wild. So wild.
Pounds and so I think I'm like, you know what, it's not that
great. Like it doesn't need to be a big
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shift for a lot of these people.Maybe it's even just one meal
that they start cooking at home and it can still produce great
results. You know, us like we're like
we're looking for that like narrow edge, like what's going
to get me into that next? You know, muscle, like muscle
growth phase. What's going to get me like my
cognitive function working so much better?
What's going to dial me in even more?
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But man, the average person, they don't, they don't
necessarily need that. They need like just some small
changes that are going to produce some great results for
them. I mean, could you imagine £85
from chocolate milk, Coca-Cola and orange juice?
That's so. Wild yeah and I mean I'm in
Austin, TX. So it's like, you know, it's
like it's not like the deep, Deep South, but it's like we've
got enough, you know we got enough BBQ out here, but I mean
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it's delicious, but it's like it's the things that come with
the BBQ like the Mac and cheese and the potatoes and the yadda
yadda, yadda and the chicken fried steaks and all those types
of things like yeah, IA 100% agree with you and it's wild
like for the people that are listening like I would just say
this it's really not that hard. It's really not as hard as you
think. What what, what I think there
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there does need to be sometimes is not necessarily like a rock
bottom. I don't, I don't want to say
rock bottom that's almost like too severe or far, but it's
like, I do think the individual has to get to a point to where
they're uncomfortable. They're they're uncomfortable
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enough walking around in their own skin, the weight that
they're at. They feel terrible enough
because that's where I was at atone point in time when I started
making my own shifts in like 20/17/2018.
I was uncomfortable enough to where like I cannot live like
and eat and do what I'm doing. I hate feeling the way that I
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feel. And I think that if the
individual doesn't get there, there's not going to be the
enough motivation to change. Or maybe there's some blood, bad
blood markers that come back from a doctor, like, yo, you're
at risk for like diabetes. You have to make a change.
Maybe that sometimes kicks people to gear and it does.
But I think the person has to get to some or certain level of
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uncomfortability where they're like, I cannot do this anymore,
and I'm willing to put in the work to at least research what I
can do or at least stop eating what I'm eating.
And then that's what kind of creates the cycle.
And then boom, the momentum justgoes from there, you know?
Yeah. And I will tell you the top
three things that I see in clinical practice that are those
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and, and not rock bottoms, but just like, wow, I've hit my
limit of what I'm willing to accept as far as my health goes.
And for both genders, it's some degree of pain.
They're in some sort of pain, whether it's digestive issues,
chronic vasculio cell pain, headaches.
Maybe they can. It's.
Some sort of pain they're experiencing secondary to that.
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For women, it usually comes downto some degree of vanity and how
they look. They're starting to look old,
their skin sagging, they're gaining weight, they can't lose
the weight. They hate how they feel in their
clothes. And then that pushes them over
the edge. And then for men, it's erectile
dysfunction. Once things stop working down
there, they men don't care if they necessarily gain weight.
They don't really care if like they're feeling a little more
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sluggish. But as soon as Ed kicks in,
that's when they're motivated. You know, I mean that that
sounds like it does it, you knowthat that would do it for a lot
of guys. I know for sure see those.
Are the top three things that actually get people to make a
move. And it's sad, you know, I guess
we're we're in this place. And at least personally, I was
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explaining like, I want to prevent all those things.
And that's why I do what I do. And I probably on social media
come across maybe a little bit crazy as far as like, yeah, I do
all this stuff. But it's because I don't ever
want to have to deal with any ofthat.
I don't want to have to try to correct years of circumstances
that led to those changes. I would rather just be proactive
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and not have to go through it atall, yeah.
Or, you know, like another way to look at it too.
It's like, you know, we're, we're living life is going on
right now. Instead of like correcting
things down the line, like why don't I just take care of myself
right now and live the life thatI got and feel good now rather
than dealing with a bunch of issues down the line?
You know, I know we're coming uphere on.
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Go ahead. Go ahead.
Yeah, the. Good news though is that we can
fix it like those things are fixable.
It just does take a lot of time and intentional effort.
And it can be. It can be sometimes more
difficult than if you would havejust started earlier and done
the things in the 1st place 100.Percent.
Well said. I 1000% agree with you.
And like I was saying, I know we're coming up here on time and
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you got a family to attend to and I want to be respectful of
what you got going on here. So looking ahead, because I got
a couple questions about what you might have coming up next
and what's in front of you here coming down the line.
But looking ahead just in, in the space that you're in, like
what innovations and like stem cells, peptides or diet do you
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think will be coming down the pipe here in the next three to
five years in terms of just medicine, what's available,
protocols, all those types of things, like anything new and
cool that maybe you could fill us in on?
At conferences lately we've actually been hearing a lot
about various gene therapies that may becoming more
available. So being able to activate
certain anti aging genes, being able to activate certain genes
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that help with muscle production.
And it's really neat to think about.
So I think there is some gene editing happening currently.
You have to go offshore for it. But I think what they're trying
to do is they're going to be trying to actually make it so
that it is more accessible, moreaffordable.
And I wouldn't say to the to theaverage person right now, but to
people that may have the means to pursue something like that.
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Should that be something that they're interested in in the
stem cell world? I'm really optimistic with this
new administration because I know that RFK is very pro stem
cell therapy. So I'm optimistic that we're
actually going to get more, moreeyes on it, more research in it,
so that that field can actually keep progressing because it's
honestly still in its infancy. Very cool.
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Going back to the the gene, how did you phrase it?
Was it called gene therapy or like gene?
Like actual gene editing there. Gene editing, Yeah.
Real quick, like what? What is exactly does that mean?
Like what does that entail? Like it would that like entail
like a medicine or like would you have to go into a clean up?
Like how does that even work? So I'm friends with a woman
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named Liz Parrish, and she was actually patient zero for I
believe it was a telomerase. I don't quote me.
You may not quote me on this. I'd have to.
I'd have to double check. I'm sure if people Google her,
they'll be able to find it. And where she actually did have
this gene therapy done again, patient zero, first person ever.
And I've known her for many years.
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I think her and I met back in like 2019.
And I'll usually run into her ata conference once or twice a
year. And when I tell you she looks
better every single year like this woman, it, it did
something. It's definitely done something
to her in a positive way. She looks phenomenal.
She's like top of her game. She's so, she's so bright, so
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great to talk to, just an incredible human.
But what they did and I believe in, they use what's called like
a viral vector. Well, they'll actually
administer a virus to you that carries the coding for that
genetic edit and that will somehow make its way into yours.
And I'm not an expert on this, so if I'm getting this wrong for
me, but it will actually change your gene expression to express
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more of whatever the desired outcome is.
What? That is wild.
That is wild. So I'm just thinking of like,
OK, like let's say for instance,I'm just tossing out an idea.
I don't know if this works, but like let's say I want more fast
twitch muscle fibers or something like that.
Are you saying that there is a way at some point potentially
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down the line where it's like I can inject, We a doctor injects
us with like a virus and it the gene, the virus will essentially
like make its way through our bloodstream and into our genes,
but it would be able to turn on certain functions within the
body that do build more fast twitch muscle fibers.
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More or less, yes. And there, there are some, some
genes that they're studying right now.
And again, there's, I know that what's his name, Dave Asprey had
something done, forget which onehe had done.
Billy said Liz Parrish has done it.
And I'm sure there's other people that have that we just
don't know about because these places, they exist and they're
there and they are offshore. And you do have to have probably
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6 figures plus to be able to invest in something like that.
But it's happening. And the fact that it's happening
means that it will continue to progress.
And just the way that technologyis progressing nowadays, I feel
like in our lifetime we'll be able to see it to where it gets
to a point where it may be relatively affordable.
Very cool and also very, very exciting.
That's that's that would that would be awesome once we get to
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that point. Well, real quick before we wrap
up here, what what's next? What's coming down the pipeline
for you? Anything new coming up?
Projects you want to talk about?Things you're doing?
Yeah, I've got a couple, got a couple speaking engagements
coming up. I'm actually going to be
speaking at Hack Your Health in Tampa coming up in November.
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And so that's what, 5 months, 4 1/2 months from now from when
we're recording this. And then I'll actually be
speaking at meat stock, which will be coming up next May.
And that's like a carnivore based retreat that actually
happens in Tennessee. So I'll be able to.
Those. Very cool, very cool.
I got some friends out in Tennessee.
Maybe maybe all you said that was in March.
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It's. Next May.
Next. May got it.
OK, perfect. Well, that is exciting.
And before we wrap up here, where can people find you
online, Doctor Saul? Well, how can people get in
touch with you, work with you, whether they're maybe you like
your, your local area going to aclinic, Like what are all those,
those items? Yeah.
So I'm most active on Instagram as far as social media goes, and
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my handle on there is just at Doctor Solt.
So DRSOLT, my clinic website is stem cell therapy pro.com and on
there people can sign up for a free discovery call with my team
and they'll be able to go over with you.
Basically the various options that we have for working
together. I am currently licensed in
Arizona and California. So patients in those two states
are who I can work with in kind of like my my highest capacity.
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But we do have other options forpatients who are maybe outside
of those states or even outside the country.
Very cool. Like I said, I'm going to turn
my wife your direction. I think she'd love you.
Well, this, this was awesome. Doctor Salt, I really do
appreciate your time. This was fantastic.
I think the listeners are going to get a ton of value out of
this. Got to get you back on to down
the line to talk about everything else going on and
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dive deeper into all the good stuff.
So again, appreciate you coming on here.
And to everybody else, thanks guys for listening to the Low
Carb Consultant podcast. We'll catch you all on the next
one.