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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Forty three days.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
That's how long this shutdown lasted. And I'm ready to
get back to business. We've got George Papadoppolis here to
explain where the weaponization agenda goes next.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
Plus I've got.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Two former chair of redistricting panels in a red state
here to discuss how the rest of the country should
react to Gavin Newsom trying to steal an election and
speaking of elections, seventy five thousand voters we're just left
off the rolls in Pennsylvania. The Federalist has the story,
and Breonna Lyman will be here to react and will
of course examine.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
What's going on in the Caribbean.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Right now, as we are on location in Al Salvador,
it's all next to the Matt Gates Show.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
Let's do this.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
We're shaking up Washington, d C. We're breaking the fever.
Speaker 4 (00:41):
Do you haven't watch this guy in television.
Speaker 5 (00:43):
It's like a machine.
Speaker 4 (00:45):
He's great, Matt Gates.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
I'll be honest.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
We don't love the legislation that President Trump had designed
to get out of this shutdown. And as we join
you this evening, the President is glad the country will
have an opportunity to get back to normal, but there
may be an adjustment period, and that will be eased
if we are able to get his policies enacted with
the elimination of the filibuster and an advancement of the
America First Agenda. President Trump signing the legislation.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
Take listen.
Speaker 4 (01:15):
So I'm always willing to work with anyone, including the party.
We'll work on something having to do with healthcare. We
can do a lot better, we can do great. So
much money is involved, and we're willing to pay so
much money to the people. So we're going to pay
a lot of money to the people. They're going to
go out and buy their own healthcare, and we're going
to forget this Obamacare madness. Went through this short term
(01:38):
disaster with the Democrats because they thought it would be
good politically, and it's an honor now to sign this
incredible bill and get our country working again.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
President Trump is right.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
Democrats should not have put us through this. But I
want to get back to the actual agenda that voters
sent President Trump and Republicans in Congress to work on,
and that includes changing a government that has been turned
against the people. We've seen it over and over again.
I examined it frequently in Congress, whether it was the
Department of Justice, intelligence agencies, even the Post Office had
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a program that allowed them to surveil regular Americans.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
It means ensuring.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
That the investigators and prosecutors working to hold people like
James Comey and John Brennan accountable continue their work diligently.
It also means we restore the horrors that were visited
upon whistleblowers and those who stood for the truth, people
like Garrett O'Boyle, who I fought for in Congress when
he stepped out against the FBI's successes and for truth
(02:44):
and JUSTICEBI has been victimized by political capture, and that
politicization has manifested in the targeting of Americans who never
deserved to have this government weaponize against them.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
Whistleblowers saw those.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
Bad acts, they stepped forward, and they were retaliated against
and crushed as a consequence. Law did you break before
the FBI packed up all your stuff and moved it
across the country to Virginia.
Speaker 6 (03:11):
No, true law. The only thing I broke was not
tolling the line for the FBI. Like I said when
I opened my ultess to the constitution, not to the FBI.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
Garrett O'Boyle did get his back pay and we have
seen some restorative justice, but there's a lot more to do,
and we do have confidence in the team of General
Bondi an FBI.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
Director Cash Pttel.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
We need more of this from our good friend, the
FBI director.
Speaker 7 (03:39):
I want to know who was targeted by a weaponized
FBI me. You want to know how and why?
Speaker 5 (03:44):
You want to know what I'm doing to fix it?
Move on, Well, you should read the book.
Speaker 7 (03:48):
Because there's no enemies list on that book. There are
people that violated their constitutional obligations and their duties to
the American people, and they were rightly called out.
Speaker 8 (03:56):
I am doing it's protecting this country, providing historic reforms,
and combating the weaponization.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
Of intelligence by the likes of Europe.
Speaker 8 (04:06):
And we have countlessly proven you to be a lawyer
in Russia Gate in January sixth. You are the biggest
brawd to ever since the United States Senate, a disgrace to.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
This stem and an utter coward.
Speaker 8 (04:19):
You are a political buffoon at best.
Speaker 7 (04:21):
He found this information to expose to politicization by Jacksmith
and the prior Department of Justice.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
I mean, just think about it.
Speaker 7 (04:28):
Eight city United States senators phone records were gathered in
subpoena through the grand jury process, and it was buried
and wormholed. Accountability is coming. You're darn right I fired
those agents. You're darn right. I blew up CR fifteen,
the public corruption squad that led the weaponization at the
w Washington Field Office.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
We're just warming up.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
I've seen the DOJ and FBI be corrupt. That's why
I'm so grateful cash as they're working to clean it up.
We've seen people targeted. Indeed, one of those targets will
be me in just moments. George Papadopolis Martin Meadows is
the former chief of staff to President Trump. He says,
there's only two ways we get after this slow and never.
Speaker 9 (05:08):
Here's what the American people, your viewers want. They want accountability,
and they want it now and anything. There's two ways
things happen on Capitol Hill. You know this slow and never,
and if it goes slowly, it's not going to happen.
So you got to seize on the outrage that's there. Now.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
What Mark Meadows is telling you about slow and never
leans very hard to never. We do have confidence in
people like Tulci Gabbert, who's been advancing a lot of
the truth and getting information before the country. She made
that promise to out viewers on the man Gate Show.
Speaker 10 (05:44):
In the work that we do, we're going to continue
to find the truth wherever it is and bring that about,
to bring truth and transparency, and it must lead to accountability.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
Joining us now, he's the author of Deep State Target,
he was the central figure in the Russia hoax, and
now is with me to react to what we've seen
so far from the administration and what we hope comes next.
Speaker 5 (06:08):
It's great to be with you, Matt. Thanks for having me.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
Yeah, I appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
So now the shutdown is over, We've got the government
back up and running. What are you hoping for expecting
when it comes to unwinding some of the excesses of
these intelligence community violations of people's liberty.
Speaker 11 (06:25):
Yeah, regarding the government shutdown first and foremost, this has
really been a disturbing pattern that the Democrats have really
made a tactic out of, and that is to basically
hold the government hostage to their partisan whims, whether it's
weaponizing the Department of Justice against political opponents, in order
to maintain and to control power, or to hold a
government hostage and close it for forty three.
Speaker 5 (06:47):
Days because they didn't get what they want.
Speaker 11 (06:49):
So moving forward, now that the government has finally been reopened,
I'm very excited to actually once again see this Working
Committee on the Weaponization of Justice come.
Speaker 5 (06:57):
Back into power and actually do its job.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
Martin, a frequent guest on our program, chairs that committee
and has been sending out a lot of correspondents.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
But there have.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Also been grand juries that have been and paneled, and
we see Jim Comey indicted in Virginia. We saw the
referral for criminal process against John Brennan, who lied to
me when I asked about the Steele dossier in the
time when mainstream media was breathlessly talking about the Steele
dossier and the Russia hoax and George Papadopolis as this
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evil figure trying to connect Trump and Putin. I really
wonder if you see that as a series of discreete
events or as one broad conspiracy that you should be
that you think should be subject to some sort of recoaction.
Speaker 11 (07:42):
Yeah, surely we're in an unprecedented moment in American history.
We've actually never had a former FBI director indicted.
Speaker 5 (07:48):
We've never had a CIA director that we know of.
Speaker 11 (07:51):
Under a criminal investigation simultaneously with a former FBI director.
And we've actually never had a DNI actually point a
former president as an alleged ring leader of a treasonous conspiracy.
These are not my words, these are words that came
directly from d and I Gabbard. So what I think
d and I Gabbered, ag Bondi and Director of Patel
are actually working on here is a ten year long
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government conspiracy case that would be tantamount to observing how
a Rico statute might be.
Speaker 5 (08:17):
Applicable to this.
Speaker 11 (08:18):
So certainly I think they're looking at this entire operation
as a massive government conspiracy criminal case.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
I think there are.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
Some really interesting comparisons between the lasting effect of the
shutdown domestically and the lasting effect of the Russia hoax
in our foreign policy. When we think about the end
of the shutdown, it's like, well, when will the flights
be back to normal? When will inspections on our railways
be back up to their normal rigorous pace.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
And when we think about the lasting.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
Effects of the Russia hoax, it's hard not to draw
a line to the conflict that we're seeing right now
between Russia and Ukraine. I mean, are we in more
of a quagmire right now now in Europe as an
aftershock of what Brennan and Obama and Clapper and Komi
were doing to you.
Speaker 11 (09:08):
Yeah, I always called this an operation, and I think
you laid it out very eloquently during year back and
forth with Special Counsel John Durham, where this wasn't an investigation,
This was an operation I think that was utilized to
criminalize diplomacy between the United States and Russia. And by
criminalizing diplomacy and never allowed President Trump to actually foster
good relations with President Putin. Then of course we had
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Joe Biden come into office, the massive disarray that that caused,
and of course the invasion by.
Speaker 5 (09:35):
Russia into Ukraine.
Speaker 11 (09:36):
People have to remember Putin never invaded Ukraine under President Trump.
He invaded under George invaded Georgia under George W. Bush,
crimea under Obama, and a full on invasion under President Obama.
That was all stymied under President Trump's attempt to negotiate
a peace effort during his first term. Now the gloves
are off and he's attempting to once again foster a
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peace deal between these to warring nations. Unfortunately, when you
have peace on your mind, that will hopefully come to
fruition map.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
When you were being vilified, the grave sin that you
were alleged to have commit was you were trying to
negotiate terms for a potential meeting between then candidate Trump
and President Putin. And obviously, as a political strategist, if
you're a candidate and meet with someone who is one
of the most powerful leaders in the world, it is
an elevating feature of candidacy. That meeting didn't happen because
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of the interventions of Obama and his intelligence apparatus.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
If it happened.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
Today, what advice would you give President Trump about going
into that meeting to deal with the problems that we've
inherited from the Biden administration.
Speaker 11 (10:47):
I've always believed I've been a firm champion of putting
America first and putting America in a position of power
when negotiating.
Speaker 5 (10:55):
With foreign governments.
Speaker 11 (10:56):
And that's really exactly what President Trump has done by
renegotiating these trade agreements, by assuring that the Western Hemisphere
is secured for many foreign enemies, like China, Iran or Russia.
That's what he's dealing with Venezuela and actually making the
United States and that exporter of energy, which really curtails
Russia's economy because they overwhelmingly depend on exporting natural gas
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and oil on the foreign market. So by doing these
three major things, President Trump is going into negotiations with
Putin saying we're negotiating here from a position of strength.
If you don't negotiate with Zelinski, we will send arms.
You will continue to lose your soldiers, you won't get
more land, and you're going to ultimately lose a lot
more than you've started with. So that's what I would
advise in mind, I think he's doing a tremendous job,
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and that's why I think these two are.
Speaker 5 (11:40):
About to come to the negotiating table.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
Map, by the.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
Way, that is very Trump the advice to go in
and lay out the case just as you did. We're
here having this discussion in El Salvador. There was talk,
according to some of my sources, that US lawmakers were
thinking about coming here to El Salvador to meet with
Russian lawmakers to discuss how our nations can move forward.
Do you think a summit like that would be helpful
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to President Trump's and Secretary of Rubio's objectives.
Speaker 11 (12:09):
Look, I think a neutral country like El Salvador, which
is going through a renaissance.
Speaker 5 (12:13):
Is my first time in the country.
Speaker 11 (12:14):
It's absolutely tremendous to see where it started and where
it currently is. I see a wonderful positive trajectory for
this wonderful Central American nation state. So I think a
country like this, as a third party state which really
has no stake in the Russia Ukraine conflict, would be
ideal to host a potential summit between Russian diplomats American
diplomats in the Western Hemisphere and hopefully they do come
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to an agreement that does involve the Ukrainians, because obviously
we need all parties and all stakeholders involved here because
we need to stop this war once and for all. Matt,
we need to bring stability to the European continent and
let's all flourish as a global community as a result.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
As I'm listening to this, it is just such common sense,
and it really makes me wonder whether or not so
much of what we went through with the Russia hoax
existed so that there could be the needling of hostilities,
a basis for more weapons sales, a basis for more
of this globalism that President Trump stands against, that we
stand against.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
He's the author of Deep State.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
Target George Papadopolis, an expert on worldly things and what's
going on in our country as well.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
Appreciate you stuff by the program to.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
Join us, thanks so much, Ben, And coming up, Gavin
Newsom is attempting to steal democracy. He is passed Proposition
fifty and five Republican seats will be wiped off the
map in this blue state.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
So how should red states respond.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
I've got two former state lawmakers who actually chaired committees
on reapportionment. They'll join us and bring us inside what
those types of negotiations look like.
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Every Republican in America is furious that California Governor Gavin
Newsom u's political power to attack democracy by wiping five
seats off the map. That means that in a four
seat Republican majority, you could see a speaker Hakim Jeffreys,
Jamie Raskin, AOC empowered with committee chairs.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
It's all on the line now. There's only two kinds of.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
Republicans, those who are doing something about it and those
who aren't. One of them who is actually fighting back
is California State Representative David Tangipa. He's filing lawsuits and
he told us about him.
Speaker 13 (16:31):
We are suing this state for violating the Voter Rights Act.
They have to provide strict justification for why they decided
to use race as a means for their redistrict and
we can prove that the white majority districts actually don't
constitute a barrier for minorities. There is no justification for
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more minority Latino districts when they are the largest population
in the state to California and they have systematically dismantled
other minority voices by doing this.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
We stand with Representative Tanky, but but let's be honest.
The A strategy shouldn't be relied on a California lawsuit
to save the rest of us. If California is going
to squeeze their jurisdictions to get more Democrats elected to Congress,
then red states should do the same thing. I wanted
to get a sense of how that works in state
government because many, like in Indiana and elsewhere, are becoming recalcitrant.
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Joining us now two former state lawmakers from a red state,
the Sunshine State. Two folks who have actually led the
reapportionment process. Doug Holder was chairman of the congressional reapportionment
He's from the Sarasota community. Chris Doorwerth is a former
state representative from.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
The Orlando community.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
He led reapportionment for state legislative districts. Representative Holder, thanks
for joining us. How should Republicans be thinking about having
President Trump's back in these moments where Gavin Newsom has
acted so anti democratically.
Speaker 14 (18:00):
Well, it's very important that the Republicans push back. Whoever
is in control obviously makes decisions that benefit their party,
and that's just simply wrong because the people then don't
get a representative that represents their views in Washington. Therefore
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they end up with someone that is not who the
people actually want they're representing them and Chris, I.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
Think a lot of people watching this would say, well,
of course, Indiana, Florida, Louisiana, they should definitely respond to
what we saw from Newsom. But that isn't happening. They
can't get the votes in Indiana to do another reapportionment.
Bring us inside those smoke filled rooms and talk about
the influences on a lawmaker's choice.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
To go into a redistricting process.
Speaker 15 (18:50):
There's a saying you can't take the politics out of politics,
and unfortunately this is exactly that. If you assume that
the number one thing a member of Congress wants is
to be in the majority, you're wrong.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
They don't get paid more.
Speaker 15 (19:01):
They don't, they don't, they don't have they I guess
they're in charge of a committee. But at the end
of the day, they'd rather have the same district. If
you think about politics and the way we sort of
do it is like every ten years we apportioned districts,
and if we if a politician would rather have the
same district than be in power. So what's happening now?
There's a weird like divergence. On one side, there is
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a need for us to sort of man up, to
do the job, to post up and say we're gonna
take gavenutions, thinking we're gonna beat them at it. The
flip side is the people against it are the folks
who are in office. They're like, I don't want to
do this. I would rather I would much rather be,
you know, just in my safe district. So we have
to fight ourselves in order to make this happen. It's
it's kind of a Backaates celemma.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
Well, it is sad to see parochial interests for one
person's ambition or one person's district dominate over obviously what
the country needs. It is sad to think that somebody
would view their own access to a Senate seat or
a Congressional seat that they might like that might be
for them, is more important than supporting President Trump. How
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do we get some of these establishment lawmakers to wake
up and realize what time it is.
Speaker 14 (20:08):
Well, first of all, we have to stop the politicians
from choosing their voters and make sure that the voters
are able to choose the people that need to that
they want to represent them. That's what's most important. The
jerry mandering, all of these things that we're seeing happening
right now with the Democrats try to stack the deck
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in their favor.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
And have you seen cases where people actually put the
party's interests behind their own? Or you?
Speaker 15 (20:38):
But I mean, I mean you careful, I've never did that,
But you put your like you put the interest of
the people above the party. I don't care about the party.
I mean to me, the parties are ridiculous. These are
these are silly institutions that must be taken down in
some way or another. But the reality is that what
they deal with right now is that you have different
state parties that could easily add five to six, seven,
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eight seats to the build.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
Oh sure, majority told us many as twelve, as many
as twelve more seats could be on the Republican side
if they manned up. Well, if they went in and said, look,
Newsom is recutting his state, so we got to recut
our states. And if that means that there are fewer
Democrats that represent it, they can go thank Gavin Newsom.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
But I think what's happening is.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
They all still want to be at the Chamber of
Commerce luncheon. They all want to go to the you know,
to the local rotary club and have the Democrats there
like them. And they're willing in some of these states
to put the interests of the Trump agenda behind the
ease of running.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
In the same district. What would you say to one
of them if they were right?
Speaker 14 (21:43):
First of all, they're rigging the process, and when you
rig the process, you lose the voter's confidence. They start thinking, well,
what difference does it make? Why do I even need
to vote? Because they're not being represented properly. So we
have to stop these people like Gavin Newsom from doing
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what he's doing by trying to read Yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
I don't I don't know that it's so much that
these lawmakers, you know, are are like being sterling examples
of bipartisanship and like these austere notions.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
Of keeping everything how it is.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
I just think that politicians are predictable animals who want
predictable battle spaces.
Speaker 15 (22:27):
Their paycheck doesn't change. There sometimes I guess their office
might change, but like their committee chairmanship might change, but
their life doesn't change, they still make the same salary
they go to and from. They would much rather keep
the same district than than the they'll do.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
I mean, look, we've seen Chris Lasovita from from President
Trump's campaign come out and say they're going to be
consequences for these lawmakers who don't step up. You've seen
a real pressure campaign from the White House.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
At the end of the day, you know, are some state.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
Capital JV politicians really going to stop President Trump from
getting the majority of the House of Representatives.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
That he needs.
Speaker 15 (23:01):
Well, I mean Trump is a is a transformational figure
and he has to fight every step along the way.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
And this is no different the fact that a bunch
of local.
Speaker 15 (23:10):
You imagine you're a state rep and one day you'd
like to be a congressman, and you and and so
all of a sudden, your congressman comes to you and says,
don't change the districts between us.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
Just don't do it. You probably don't.
Speaker 15 (23:19):
And so I think institutionally there is a there's a
problem where these folks want to keep their jobs and
want to minimize the drama the and I think Donald
Trump needs their support. He needs these folks need to
man up to go do the job. They have to
go out and do that. They have to they have
to make an uncomfortable decision for themselves because it's what
it means to be a leader.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
That's what it means to be the leader of the country.
Speaker 15 (23:38):
I mean, like, if you want to be a congressman, Okay, fine,
it's a harder district.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
Take it there, you go, well, and it'll be these
state lawmakers in the very position you two are in,
dealing with these parochial demands, dealing with the personalities, and
we've got to rise above that. I really worry that
in some of these state capitals they don't understand the
importance of what this House majority means, because on the
other side of that, it gets It may not get
ugly for members that go from the majority of the minority,
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but it will get very ugly for the Trump administration.
I mean, we had George Pavotopolis on the show tonight.
I remember when they were having every person who worked
at the White House have to go get hundreds of
thousands of dollars in legal fees, and they were doing
everything they could to smear good people who are trying
to do good things for the country.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
Let's hope they come to their senses as you two obviously.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
Have a former Representative Doug Holder, former chairman of the
Congressional Reapportionment Committee in Florida, former chairman of the State
House Reportionmit Committee, Chris Dorworth of Orlando.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
Thanks for joining us in the program. There's a huge
story coming.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
Out of the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania. Seventy five thousand voters
left off the voter rolls. We will be fearless and
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Did the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania just lose seventy five thousand voters. Well,
they left seventy five thousand off the rolls, according to
new reporting that we see in the Federalist. Harmi Dillon
is the Deputy Attorney General for the Civil Rights Division.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
Here was her reaction to.
Speaker 16 (27:20):
The news Pennsylvania Chester County had seventy five thousand voters
who were independent. They simply weren't included on the poll book.
And that means that, you know, some of them are
turned away. And it's a real failure to imagine disenfranchising
virtually seventy five thousand people in an election. And there
were you know, three Supreme Court judge races on the election,
(27:42):
very important races. That's the margin, I mean, one vote
is the margin in an election. So that's a massive fail.
So I think people can expect that there will be
follow up action from the DJ.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
Good. It is a massive fail. And this isn't just anywhere.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
Pennsylvania the ultimate prize among the swing states. And remember
President Trump does quite well with non affiliated voters. They
see him as a cure to a system that is
often failing them on a variety of fronts.
Speaker 1 (28:12):
So let's just acknowledge that.
Speaker 2 (28:14):
You're allowed to ask questions about election integrity without being
vilified as some sort of threat to democracy. See, we're
in this position where there's like this unwritten code that
if you even present this type of reporting, if you
ask these questions, if you review this type of data,
that somehow you're trying to get the American people to
(28:34):
not believe.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
In the outcomes of our elections. And it is just
the opposite. The best way to restore.
Speaker 2 (28:40):
Trust in elections is to have full transparency. And when
these types of problems arise, we have to fix them quickly.
And will we have the opportunity to do that before
the all important midterms? Joining US now Elections correspondent for
the Federalists Breonna Lyman. So, Brianna, what is going on
in Pennsylvania?
Speaker 17 (28:58):
Yeah, Chester County has had this real big issue. I
think they're still actually counting provisional ballots. So the way
it works in Pennsylvania is you go on election day
and you sign your name in these poll books. But
what happened in Chester County is they only listed Republican
or Democrat voters. They didn't list independent or on affiliated voters,
and so what they had to do that day is
(29:18):
they had to tell all of these independents or unaffiliated
voters to vote provisionally. Now, the big problem with that
is want the amount of time it takes. We're talking
thousands of ballots that these election officials in the county
now have to go through and see if these are
indeed eligible voters. That takes a lot of time. Imagine
if this was a presidential race and it's on the margins,
how on edge we would all be. The other problem,
(29:41):
according to some reporting from the Federalist, is some areas
were not following the regular instructions and instead of giving
an individual a provisional ballot, they were having the individual
sign their name on blank pages in the poll book
and then voting regularly. The issue with that, of course,
is we have secret ballots. So if they voted and
they didn't vote provisionally, once their ballot was cast, you
(30:02):
can't remove that from the tally. What if somebody was
a non citizen, what if they didn't live in the county. Right,
There's a whole host of issues. So there have a
lot of problems over there.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
What you just described is insane. What's next?
Speaker 2 (30:16):
People voting by message in a bottle or a carrier pigeon.
The concerns that you've seen in Chester County, are you
worried that some of these may appear in other counties
in Pennsylvania?
Speaker 9 (30:29):
Oh?
Speaker 17 (30:29):
Absolutely, And again going into the midterms, going into the
presidential election, all eyes are on Pennsylvania given you the
staff foos that we saw in twenty twenty and just
concerns about election integrity. And this is one of those
examples where at the county level you think it's not
that important, but thousands of people had to vote provisionally.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
How do you play defense against this most effectively as
as really a candidate or a political party that just
wants to see a fair election.
Speaker 17 (31:00):
Yeah, I think having parity if I'm correct, I think
there's one Republican official on the county Board of Elections
or the county that deals with elections. So making sure
there's party is a good way to restore some trust.
Voter lists maintenance, I guess polebook maintenance would be good.
I'm not sure how they didn't catch this leading up
to the election. Did they just get the poll books
on Tuesday and say, Okay, we have a problem. So
(31:22):
maybe some kind of process to let them look at
it a week beforehand, make sure there's independence and unaffiliated
voters listed.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
One of the things that we worry about is that
the path to the majority in the House of Representatives
runs through blue states. Like it's not going to be
some swing district in Florida or even likely Georgia or
Texas that decide this thing. California and New York produce
a number of Republican seats, or at least they did
before their states started to cheat with jerrymandering. But where
(31:53):
are the places you're watching that you think still have
the worst systems in place that require the most oversight.
Speaker 17 (32:00):
Well, I think Wisconsin is a really good state. My
colleague Matt Khittle reports on this just wonderfully. And one
of the big issues in Wisconsin is voter list maintenance.
That's actually not unique to Wisconsin, but we see a
lot of issues there. County election officials either they just
had oversight when it comes to voter list maintenance, maybe
they didn't know how to do it, maybe they just
decided not to do it. And we see this in
(32:21):
other states, but Wisconsin's a big one, right. We saw
Wisconsin had their Supreme Court election swung hard left again,
So going into again the midterms and the presidential election,
that's a state I'd be watching.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
And if there are good legislators who want to improve
the hygieniene of elections in their states, where do you
look to and say this is the state if we
could lift up their policies.
Speaker 1 (32:46):
And pollinate them around the country.
Speaker 2 (32:48):
We'd have good chain of custody, good voter ID and fast,
reliable results.
Speaker 1 (32:52):
For the people.
Speaker 17 (32:54):
Yeah, I think there's a few places. Georgia has done
a really good job in terms of voter ID. We
remember the infamous Jim Row two point zero, which really
was just voter ID laws that in fact voters after
twenty twenty one, so they had an easy time voting.
The Washington Post did a report speaking to black voters
who said, this is some of the easiest voting I've
ever done in Georgia. So implementing voter ID laws, look
(33:14):
to Georgia. Over in Texas, they do a decent job
of voterless maintenance. Secretary of State in Texas Nelson, she
does a really good job keeping track. There's still work
to be done, but those are the places I would
look to.
Speaker 3 (33:29):
Well.
Speaker 2 (33:29):
As the midterms approach is the stories. So what are
the places that you think are going to really be
dispositive to see that Republicans are able to make control.
Speaker 17 (33:41):
I mean, I'm looking right now, but my biggest concerns
for twenty twenty six is New York. I'm thinking of
New York seventeen. Mike Waller. He does a good job
presenting his district. He wins it decently, but with the
influx of people leaving Manhattan, especially with mom Donnie's win,
they're going to go up north and you hit Lawler's
district almost immediately. That's a really big seat. I want
to hold on too.
Speaker 1 (34:02):
I also am.
Speaker 17 (34:03):
Concerned about Virginia. We know that Virginia Democrats swept the
House of Delegates race last week. Apparently there's talk of
redistricting there, so we could possibly lose a seat or
two in Virginia, which could be detrimental to Republicans holding
the majority.
Speaker 1 (34:18):
And are there any state laws?
Speaker 2 (34:19):
You mentioned Georgia, And I'm so glad you did, because
Georgia was kind of a laughing stock after the twenty
twenty election.
Speaker 1 (34:26):
They couldn't, you know, they couldn't.
Speaker 2 (34:27):
Explain why some of the results were so late arriving,
particularly in Fulton County and in Florida. There's a requirement
that these results roll in every eight minutes so that
there's not an ecosystem that allows cheating. But Georgia did improve.
Georgia did make things better, and they deserve credit for that.
Are you rooting for any other states that have a
(34:49):
real effort like that underway to have good election integrity.
Speaker 17 (34:55):
I'm trying to think. I was really rooting for Maine.
Actually last week they did have a ballot initiative for
or voter ID. It did not pass, unfortunately, so I
was hoping that some other states would kind of take
that initiative. But again, that brings us to the larger conversation.
We need to have nationwide voter ID laws. We need
to pass the SAVE Act, which is documentary proof of
citizenship to register to vote. Republicans may not have an
(35:17):
opportunity this time next year if they lose the majority,
so they have to get through common sense election integrity
reforms starting with the SAVE Act.
Speaker 2 (35:26):
There is no one we would rather go around the
country with and talk about election integrity than Breonna Lyman,
elections correspondent at the Federalists.
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to send more of your money to foreign countries. We're
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the questions and the answers.
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Speaker 18 (39:02):
These are some of the insane priorities that that organization
has been spending money on. One point five million dollars
to advance DEI in Serbia's workplaces, seventy thousand for a
production of a DEI musical in Ireland, forty seven thousand
for a transgender opera in Colombia thirty two thousand for
a transgender comic book in Peru. I don't know about you,
(39:25):
but as an American taxpayer, I don't want my dollars
going towards this crap.
Speaker 2 (39:31):
So all of that stuff sounds insane to us and
probably to most Americans. That's why it surprised us when
we saw a new poll from the McLaughlin Group suggesting
that there is strong support in the Republican base and
throughout the country for international aid. The survey tounts the
fact that President Trump's base is supporting international aid at
(39:52):
a very high rate. Democrats are the highest supporting group
at eighty six percent. But just listen to how the
question is framed. Here's the Q, and I'll read it
to you. The US government supports our allies abroad, reduces
migration and helps people suffering from starvation and natural disasters,
and improves global health so that Americans are not exposed
to illness.
Speaker 1 (40:12):
Generally speaking, do you support or.
Speaker 2 (40:13):
Oppose the United States providing funding for this type of
international assistance? So that through the question in this particular case,
the polster definitionally cleaves out the very things that often
fill the international aid coffers, and so we wanted to
dissess it more.
Speaker 1 (40:32):
We invited that poster on the program.
Speaker 2 (40:34):
McLaughlin and associates did the poll. Jim McLaughlin is indeed
a polling guru and joins us. Now, so, Jim, what
are you hoping people gather from these numbers that you've
published regarding sentiment on foreign aid?
Speaker 1 (40:48):
Yeah?
Speaker 19 (40:48):
You know what was really interesting, I think a lot
of it what had showed was the confidence they have
in President Trump Secretary of State Rubio that we saw
a lot more confidence in them wanting to give assistance
for both national security reasons and for humanitarian reasons. So
I think it says a lot about the administration and
(41:10):
the trust they have with them. And I think it
also says a lot about the successes that the Trump
that the Trump administration has had in foreign affairs.
Speaker 1 (41:22):
I don't doubt those successes.
Speaker 2 (41:24):
I'm sure that people are with them on it, but
if I can push back a little.
Speaker 1 (41:27):
This also has something to do with the construction of
the question.
Speaker 2 (41:30):
Right, Like the question you ask isn't do you support usaid?
Speaker 1 (41:35):
Do you support foreign aid?
Speaker 2 (41:36):
It's like, well, if it's key for a natural disaster,
and if it's essential for you not getting an illness,
would you support giving money to another country. Do you
think that sentiment would have been different in these numbers
if you would have asked a more general question about
foreign aid or its principle prevey or USAID.
Speaker 1 (41:53):
And look, we didn't.
Speaker 19 (41:54):
The reason we didn't ask about USAID is because what's
one of the things that they liked is the public
private partnerships and they now trust the State Department. They
liked the fact that they're the ones doling out the
foreign aid. And again, I think it goes back to
the confidence that they're showing in President Trump, in Secretary
(42:16):
of State Rubio.
Speaker 3 (42:18):
And look, we all know what.
Speaker 1 (42:20):
Happened during the Biden years.
Speaker 19 (42:22):
During the Biden years, basically they left the playing field.
And what happened was you had you know, former allies
put you know, countries like India, You had you know,
countries like Egypt. We saw all the great things that
the president did with the Abraham Accords, and what was
happening was countries that used to be our allies were
(42:42):
going into the arms of you know, China and Jijingping
and Vladimir Putin and Iran, so what this allows this
administration to do is set up both national security and
economic alliances. And again it shows the confidence that they
have in this administration be able to do it. And look,
it's only zero it's zero point zero two five percent
(43:06):
of the budget. We're not talking about a lot of
a lot of money here. It's money that is going
to be strategically spent to help the country's economic needs
and also the national security needs.
Speaker 2 (43:21):
And I can sede that you do this poll after
a lot of things had been pulled out of foreign aid,
like the transgender comic books in Peru and the pride
parades in Prague and a lot of that, And so
perhaps that's baked in.
Speaker 1 (43:34):
But I mean, Jim, if you just.
Speaker 2 (43:36):
Asked the question of the American body politic, do you
trust the State Department, their numbers would be pretty bad,
wouldn't they wouldn't people be more I mean, I worry
that people would read your poll and say, oh, well, gosh,
we should give more money to other countries.
Speaker 1 (43:52):
And I actually don't think that's what the American people want.
Speaker 19 (43:55):
Yeah, but what it is is we tied it back
to the America First agenda, and that's what they trust
when we said, you know, it was literally clear majorities
they supported the international assistants. And we use the word
international assistants. And it's because it's tied back to President
Trump's America First agenda. And again, look, the American people,
(44:16):
whether it's Republicans, whether it's Conservatives, whether it's Democrats or independents,
they know we can't be isolationists.
Speaker 1 (44:25):
And that's been one.
Speaker 19 (44:26):
Of the great successes of President Trump's you know, first
year in office, has been the fact he's been able
to build these alliances. And you know, it's funny, he's
been attacked by the media, he's been attacked by the Democrats.
But what the President has done is a brilliant job
of tying our economic security along with our national security.
Speaker 1 (44:47):
I mean, think about it.
Speaker 19 (44:48):
He's already brought brought in what over fifteen trillion dollars
in new investment into the United States, and they realize
that it's all tied together. And again we're not talking
about a lot of money.
Speaker 2 (45:01):
You think people realize, well, hold on, all, you made
a big elite there. Do you think people link other
countries making investments in the United States to US.
Speaker 1 (45:10):
Giving foreign aid?
Speaker 2 (45:11):
What's your basis for that position, because it seems to
me that that the investment is a consequence of the
tearff policy, not our foreign aid policy.
Speaker 19 (45:19):
Yeah, and look, that's what they understand is with President Trump,
it's gonna be about America first and whether it's getting
us better trade agreements, better economic agreements, He's gonna do
the same thing when it comes to putting America's interests
first to make sure. Look when he you know, he
got a lot of flat for what he did with Argentina,
(45:42):
but the reason he did that it's much better for
us to have Argentina as an ally and have somebody
like jabber Malay in charge versus one of these Marxist dictators.
And we all know how that has worked out in
a lot of these other countries.
Speaker 2 (45:58):
No, we've we've been studying it closely, and we don't
want to see Latin America fall to the leftists and
the tyrants. Jim McLaughlin, thank you for bringing us the
numbers and chopping it up with me.
Speaker 1 (46:09):
Always a pleasure. Thank you, Matt, thank you.
Speaker 2 (46:14):
And coming up, we will look into that campaign in
the Caribbean to take on the narco traffickers and we'll
get a sense about how other Latin American countries are
seeing these efforts from Secretary of Hegseth and President Trump
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Speaker 20 (48:37):
Ever, my advice to foreign terrorist organizations do not get
in a boat. I mean, if you're trafficking drugs to
poison the American people, and we know you're from a
designated terrorist organization, you're a foreign terrorist and a trafficker.
We will find you and we will kill you. No
(48:57):
one is better at tracking and networking, in math and
hunting than the American military, honing those skills for many
decades in foreign lands. Now we're doing it in defense
of the American people with all the authorities. We got
lawyers on lawyers, all the authorities necessary to do so.
Treating these terrorists like the Al Qaeda of the Western hemisphere.
Speaker 2 (49:20):
That's your Secretary of War, Pete Hegseth, And the man
does sound like he's on a war path against the
narcos and traffickers who have had a promissive environment in
the Eastern Pacific and the Gulf of America for far
too long. This is drawing a great deal of focus
on the nation of Venezuela, functionally a narcos state, a
state where a lot of the drugs that are grown
in Columbia, Oblivion, Peru can make their way into the
(49:42):
United States of America. Secretary Rubio commented on the subject
and said intervention alone wouldn't be enough.
Speaker 21 (49:49):
The problem is in addictions alone are not effective. You
have to incentivize this industry that these terrorists are using
to flood our country with heroin, with cocaine, with fetanyl.
Interdictions have to no deterrent effect these drug organizations. They've
already baked in the fact they may lose five percent
of their drug shipments, it doesn't stop them from coming
continuing to do it. What you have seen is an
(50:10):
impact on drug boats. You have seen them much less
of you're starting to see it. It's in both the
Pacific and in the Caribbean base and especially in the Caribbean.
This is a counter drug operation and if they stop
sending drug boats there won't be any problem.
Speaker 2 (50:24):
Amazingly, and indeed surprisingly, Europe has responded to the United
States cleaning up its own backyard. We had the French
born Foreign Minister weighing in saying that there wasn't a
lawful authority for the strikes that the United States has
been carrying out and likely will continue to carry out
against these narco traffickers. Of course, Secretary Rubio had something
to say about that.
Speaker 21 (50:45):
I don't think that the European Union gets to determine
what international laws. They certainly don't get to determine is
how the United States defense its national security. The United
States is under attack from organized criminal narco terrorists in
our hemisphere, and the President is responding in the defense
of our country. I do find it interesting that all
these countries want us to send, you know, and supply,
(51:06):
for example, nuclear capable Tomahawk missiles to defend Europe. But
when the United States positions aircraft carriers in our hemisphere
where we live, somehow, that's a problem. So I would
say that the United States is and this president has
made very clear his job is to protect the United
States from threats against the United States, and that is
what he's doing in this operation.
Speaker 2 (51:25):
Joining us now to discuss as political strategists and expert
on Latin American affairs, Gamian Merleau Damien, what is Europe
doing weighing in on the United States policing the Gulf
of America.
Speaker 22 (51:37):
Well, thanks for having me, mad, It's great to be
here in the South. They're safest country in the hemisphere.
Can't be said the same thing about men Azuela at Caracas.
I think, you know, the United States is doing the
right things. You know, we're taking care of our hemisphere.
You know, we're always asked to take care of other
countries far far away from America, from American shores.
Speaker 1 (51:56):
This is our third border.
Speaker 5 (51:57):
You know, the golf is.
Speaker 22 (51:59):
A place where a lot of drug trafficking is taking place.
And you know, in Venezuela we have a narco state
where not only do they harbor narco terrorists, but the
country's actually run by a head of a cartel as
designated by the US State Department and Department of Justice
and the Treasury Department. So I think you know what
the United States doing, the Secretary of War, the Secretary
(52:21):
of State, there's just protecting American lives by taking out
these narco terrorists that are trying to bring Alista drugs
in the United States.
Speaker 2 (52:30):
You know so much about the body politic in Latin America,
and I get it that we have a sword history here.
You know, the United Fruit and Standard food days weren't great.
Not all of the decisions the United States made on
who to back in Latin America were good ones.
Speaker 1 (52:46):
And by the way, that goes through the Biden.
Speaker 2 (52:48):
Administration, I would say, do you think the people in
Latin America will react favorably if the United States uses
military force to really neutralize these cartels?
Speaker 22 (53:01):
Well, I think I think they do. I mean, I
think you see a trend all over Latin America. There's
a trend of shifting to the right. In countries like Bolivia,
for over twenty years was led by leftists, you know,
quasi communist leaders now have a pro US conservative new
president's just sworn in last week, and so I think
(53:21):
in Latin America people see the United States as finally
paying attention to the Hemisphere.
Speaker 1 (53:27):
And you know, let's not joke ourselves.
Speaker 22 (53:30):
A lot of this spread of this leftist movements throughout
the region originate with Cuban intelligence and Venezuela and funding.
And so I think this goes way far beyond just
dealing with the Madure regime. This will have repercussions for
security throughout the hemisphere.
Speaker 2 (53:47):
I just want the right to win, and I think
that this is a place where that's really for grads. Right,
We've got the Cuba Venezuela increasingly Columbia model that is
trying to pull continent to the left. And then you
have the bucel A model for strong nations, strong borders,
the Mila model that is, you know, for austerity when necessary,
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to try to have a physically conservative approach to spending.
And you know, can can this be a constant struggle
or does one side win and one side lose? Or
is this just something we're gonna we're gonna be fighting
over for the next two decades.
Speaker 22 (54:24):
Well, I think that they're always there's always gonna be
this struggle. What I think what you see here in
El Salvador, which is great, you know, it's the safest
country in the MSPs have said, you've got a president
that's implementing more than left or right policies, have COmON sense.
You know, people are just tired of not being able
to walk the streets at night, not feeling safe in
their own neighborhoods, in their own cities. And so what
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you see in a lot of these countries is that
conservative policies tend to favor the rule of law, whereas
the leftists tend to be more of a Kumbai approach,
let everyone do what they want, including criminals. You've see
year in Elsautha, their whites it's safe because they've put
behind bars all the criminal gang members. And what you've
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seen in leftist countries is they have this sort of
approach where, oh, you know, it's not their fall, the
community and the society has failed them, and that's not
really the case.
Speaker 1 (55:15):
So the struggle is that is left.
Speaker 22 (55:16):
And right, and I do think the conservative movements are
going to come out on top, but it's all about
common sense.
Speaker 2 (55:23):
The conservative movement seem to arise from a populism and
a need for security like the Maslow's hierarchy of needs
that we all learn being indeed met by right leaning leaders.
But the left's main ally has been these NGOs Open
Society foundation funded by George Soros, but many funded by
US taxpayers. Are you still seeing those NGOs operationally effective
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in Central America throughout Latin America or did the reforms
that Secretary of Rubio and Elon Musk implemented a handicapped
them in any meaningful way.
Speaker 22 (55:58):
Well, I think they've been greatly handicapped on two fronts. One,
I think President Trump get rid of USAID, which was
ridiculous because they were funding groups that were chanting anti
American slogans. So we were essentially funding people that were bashing.
Speaker 5 (56:12):
Our own policies.
Speaker 22 (56:13):
And second, what you see with groups like George Soros
is that they've seen their influence diminished, and so by
having their influence diminished, they almost.
Speaker 1 (56:21):
See it as an investment. What do I get out
of it?
Speaker 22 (56:23):
And so in a country like Olsavadra, source hit a
brick wall, as President Muquela eloquently said at Sepack, and
so they've kind of retreated, and you know, they've realized
that you know at one point when this just don't
have the power to influence leftist governments that you know,
the average citizens sees through their bull crap. Excuse my French,
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and this just don't believe it anymore.
Speaker 2 (56:46):
We will not excuse the French while they're criticizing us
for attacking Arco's and the Gulf of America.
Speaker 1 (56:50):
But your point is well taken.
Speaker 2 (56:51):
We want to see those NGOs retreating and surrendering to
the will of the people in these countries, and we
know that that will lead them the right way. Damian Merleau,
political strategist, expert on Latin American affairs.
Speaker 1 (57:03):
Thanks for joining us. That's all the time we have.
Speaker 2 (57:05):
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Speaker 1 (57:22):
Let's go get them at
Forty three days.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
That's how long this shutdown lasted. And I'm ready to
get back to business. We've got George Papadoppolis here to
explain where the weaponization agenda goes next.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
Plus I've got.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Two former chair of redistricting panels in a red state
here to discuss how the rest of the country should
react to Gavin Newsom trying to steal an election and
speaking of elections, seventy five thousand voters we're just left
off the rolls in Pennsylvania. The Federalist has the story,
and Breonna Lyman will be here to react and will
of course examine.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
What's going on in the Caribbean.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Right now, as we are on location in Al Salvador,
it's all next to the Matt Gates Show.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
Let's do this.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
We're shaking up Washington, d C. We're breaking the fever.
Speaker 4 (00:41):
Do you haven't watch this guy in television.
Speaker 5 (00:43):
It's like a machine.
Speaker 4 (00:45):
He's great, Matt Gates.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
I'll be honest.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
We don't love the legislation that President Trump had designed
to get out of this shutdown. And as we join
you this evening, the President is glad the country will
have an opportunity to get back to normal, but there
may be an adjustment period, and that will be eased
if we are able to get his policies enacted with
the elimination of the filibuster and an advancement of the
America First Agenda. President Trump signing the legislation.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
Take listen.
Speaker 4 (01:15):
So I'm always willing to work with anyone, including the party.
We'll work on something having to do with healthcare. We
can do a lot better, we can do great. So
much money is involved, and we're willing to pay so
much money to the people. So we're going to pay
a lot of money to the people. They're going to
go out and buy their own healthcare, and we're going
to forget this Obamacare madness. Went through this short term
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disaster with the Democrats because they thought it would be
good politically, and it's an honor now to sign this
incredible bill and get our country working again.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
President Trump is right.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
Democrats should not have put us through this. But I
want to get back to the actual agenda that voters
sent President Trump and Republicans in Congress to work on,
and that includes changing a government that has been turned
against the people. We've seen it over and over again.
I examined it frequently in Congress, whether it was the
Department of Justice, intelligence agencies, even the Post Office had
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a program that allowed them to surveil regular Americans.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
It means ensuring.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
That the investigators and prosecutors working to hold people like
James Comey and John Brennan accountable continue their work diligently.
It also means we restore the horrors that were visited
upon whistleblowers and those who stood for the truth, people
like Garrett O'Boyle, who I fought for in Congress when
he stepped out against the FBI's successes and for truth
(02:44):
and JUSTICEBI has been victimized by political capture, and that
politicization has manifested in the targeting of Americans who never
deserved to have this government weaponize against them.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
Whistleblowers saw those.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
Bad acts, they stepped forward, and they were retaliated against
and crushed as a consequence. Law did you break before
the FBI packed up all your stuff and moved it
across the country to Virginia.
Speaker 6 (03:11):
No, true law. The only thing I broke was not
tolling the line for the FBI. Like I said when
I opened my ultess to the constitution, not to the FBI.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
Garrett O'Boyle did get his back pay and we have
seen some restorative justice, but there's a lot more to do,
and we do have confidence in the team of General
Bondi an FBI.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
Director Cash Pttel.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
We need more of this from our good friend, the
FBI director.
Speaker 7 (03:39):
I want to know who was targeted by a weaponized
FBI me. You want to know how and why?
Speaker 5 (03:44):
You want to know what I'm doing to fix it?
Move on, Well, you should read the book.
Speaker 7 (03:48):
Because there's no enemies list on that book. There are
people that violated their constitutional obligations and their duties to
the American people, and they were rightly called out.
Speaker 8 (03:56):
I am doing it's protecting this country, providing historic reforms,
and combating the weaponization.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
Of intelligence by the likes of Europe.
Speaker 8 (04:06):
And we have countlessly proven you to be a lawyer
in Russia Gate in January sixth. You are the biggest
brawd to ever since the United States Senate, a disgrace to.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
This stem and an utter coward.
Speaker 8 (04:19):
You are a political buffoon at best.
Speaker 7 (04:21):
He found this information to expose to politicization by Jacksmith
and the prior Department of Justice.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
I mean, just think about it.
Speaker 7 (04:28):
Eight city United States senators phone records were gathered in
subpoena through the grand jury process, and it was buried
and wormholed. Accountability is coming. You're darn right I fired
those agents. You're darn right. I blew up CR fifteen,
the public corruption squad that led the weaponization at the
w Washington Field Office.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
We're just warming up.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
I've seen the DOJ and FBI be corrupt. That's why
I'm so grateful cash as they're working to clean it up.
We've seen people targeted. Indeed, one of those targets will
be me in just moments. George Papadopolis Martin Meadows is
the former chief of staff to President Trump. He says,
there's only two ways we get after this slow and never.
Speaker 9 (05:08):
Here's what the American people, your viewers want. They want accountability,
and they want it now and anything. There's two ways
things happen on Capitol Hill. You know this slow and never,
and if it goes slowly, it's not going to happen.
So you got to seize on the outrage that's there. Now.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
What Mark Meadows is telling you about slow and never
leans very hard to never. We do have confidence in
people like Tulci Gabbert, who's been advancing a lot of
the truth and getting information before the country. She made
that promise to out viewers on the man Gate Show.
Speaker 10 (05:44):
In the work that we do, we're going to continue
to find the truth wherever it is and bring that about,
to bring truth and transparency, and it must lead to accountability.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
Joining us now, he's the author of Deep State Target,
he was the central figure in the Russia hoax, and
now is with me to react to what we've seen
so far from the administration and what we hope comes next.
Speaker 5 (06:08):
It's great to be with you, Matt. Thanks for having me.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
Yeah, I appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
So now the shutdown is over, We've got the government
back up and running. What are you hoping for expecting
when it comes to unwinding some of the excesses of
these intelligence community violations of people's liberty.
Speaker 11 (06:25):
Yeah, regarding the government shutdown first and foremost, this has
really been a disturbing pattern that the Democrats have really
made a tactic out of, and that is to basically
hold the government hostage to their partisan whims, whether it's
weaponizing the Department of Justice against political opponents, in order
to maintain and to control power, or to hold a
government hostage and close it for forty three.
Speaker 5 (06:47):
Days because they didn't get what they want.
Speaker 11 (06:49):
So moving forward, now that the government has finally been reopened,
I'm very excited to actually once again see this Working
Committee on the Weaponization of Justice come.
Speaker 5 (06:57):
Back into power and actually do its job.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
Martin, a frequent guest on our program, chairs that committee
and has been sending out a lot of correspondents.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
But there have.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Also been grand juries that have been and paneled, and
we see Jim Comey indicted in Virginia. We saw the
referral for criminal process against John Brennan, who lied to
me when I asked about the Steele dossier in the
time when mainstream media was breathlessly talking about the Steele
dossier and the Russia hoax and George Papadopolis as this
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evil figure trying to connect Trump and Putin. I really
wonder if you see that as a series of discreete
events or as one broad conspiracy that you should be
that you think should be subject to some sort of recoaction.
Speaker 11 (07:42):
Yeah, surely we're in an unprecedented moment in American history.
We've actually never had a former FBI director indicted.
Speaker 5 (07:48):
We've never had a CIA director that we know of.
Speaker 11 (07:51):
Under a criminal investigation simultaneously with a former FBI director.
And we've actually never had a DNI actually point a
former president as an alleged ring leader of a treasonous conspiracy.
These are not my words, these are words that came
directly from d and I Gabbard. So what I think
d and I Gabbered, ag Bondi and Director of Patel
are actually working on here is a ten year long
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government conspiracy case that would be tantamount to observing how
a Rico statute might be.
Speaker 5 (08:17):
Applicable to this.
Speaker 11 (08:18):
So certainly I think they're looking at this entire operation
as a massive government conspiracy criminal case.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
I think there are.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
Some really interesting comparisons between the lasting effect of the
shutdown domestically and the lasting effect of the Russia hoax
in our foreign policy. When we think about the end
of the shutdown, it's like, well, when will the flights
be back to normal? When will inspections on our railways
be back up to their normal rigorous pace.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
And when we think about the lasting.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
Effects of the Russia hoax, it's hard not to draw
a line to the conflict that we're seeing right now
between Russia and Ukraine. I mean, are we in more
of a quagmire right now now in Europe as an
aftershock of what Brennan and Obama and Clapper and Komi
were doing to you.
Speaker 11 (09:08):
Yeah, I always called this an operation, and I think
you laid it out very eloquently during year back and
forth with Special Counsel John Durham, where this wasn't an investigation,
This was an operation I think that was utilized to
criminalize diplomacy between the United States and Russia. And by
criminalizing diplomacy and never allowed President Trump to actually foster
good relations with President Putin. Then of course we had
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Joe Biden come into office, the massive disarray that that caused,
and of course the invasion by.
Speaker 5 (09:35):
Russia into Ukraine.
Speaker 11 (09:36):
People have to remember Putin never invaded Ukraine under President Trump.
He invaded under George invaded Georgia under George W. Bush,
crimea under Obama, and a full on invasion under President Obama.
That was all stymied under President Trump's attempt to negotiate
a peace effort during his first term. Now the gloves
are off and he's attempting to once again foster a
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peace deal between these to warring nations. Unfortunately, when you
have peace on your mind, that will hopefully come to
fruition map.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
When you were being vilified, the grave sin that you
were alleged to have commit was you were trying to
negotiate terms for a potential meeting between then candidate Trump
and President Putin. And obviously, as a political strategist, if
you're a candidate and meet with someone who is one
of the most powerful leaders in the world, it is
an elevating feature of candidacy. That meeting didn't happen because
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of the interventions of Obama and his intelligence apparatus.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
If it happened.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
Today, what advice would you give President Trump about going
into that meeting to deal with the problems that we've
inherited from the Biden administration.
Speaker 11 (10:47):
I've always believed I've been a firm champion of putting
America first and putting America in a position of power
when negotiating.
Speaker 5 (10:55):
With foreign governments.
Speaker 11 (10:56):
And that's really exactly what President Trump has done by
renegotiating these trade agreements, by assuring that the Western Hemisphere
is secured for many foreign enemies, like China, Iran or Russia.
That's what he's dealing with Venezuela and actually making the
United States and that exporter of energy, which really curtails
Russia's economy because they overwhelmingly depend on exporting natural gas
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and oil on the foreign market. So by doing these
three major things, President Trump is going into negotiations with
Putin saying we're negotiating here from a position of strength.
If you don't negotiate with Zelinski, we will send arms.
You will continue to lose your soldiers, you won't get
more land, and you're going to ultimately lose a lot
more than you've started with. So that's what I would
advise in mind, I think he's doing a tremendous job,
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and that's why I think these two are.
Speaker 5 (11:40):
About to come to the negotiating table.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
Map, by the.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
Way, that is very Trump the advice to go in
and lay out the case just as you did. We're
here having this discussion in El Salvador. There was talk,
according to some of my sources, that US lawmakers were
thinking about coming here to El Salvador to meet with
Russian lawmakers to discuss how our nations can move forward.
Do you think a summit like that would be helpful
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to President Trump's and Secretary of Rubio's objectives.
Speaker 11 (12:09):
Look, I think a neutral country like El Salvador, which
is going through a renaissance.
Speaker 5 (12:13):
Is my first time in the country.
Speaker 11 (12:14):
It's absolutely tremendous to see where it started and where
it currently is. I see a wonderful positive trajectory for
this wonderful Central American nation state. So I think a
country like this, as a third party state which really
has no stake in the Russia Ukraine conflict, would be
ideal to host a potential summit between Russian diplomats American
diplomats in the Western Hemisphere and hopefully they do come
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to an agreement that does involve the Ukrainians, because obviously
we need all parties and all stakeholders involved here because
we need to stop this war once and for all. Matt,
we need to bring stability to the European continent and
let's all flourish as a global community as a result.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
As I'm listening to this, it is just such common sense,
and it really makes me wonder whether or not so
much of what we went through with the Russia hoax
existed so that there could be the needling of hostilities,
a basis for more weapons sales, a basis for more
of this globalism that President Trump stands against, that we
stand against.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
He's the author of Deep State.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
Target George Papadopolis, an expert on worldly things and what's
going on in our country as well.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
Appreciate you stuff by the program to.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
Join us, thanks so much, Ben, And coming up, Gavin
Newsom is attempting to steal democracy. He is passed Proposition
fifty and five Republican seats will be wiped off the
map in this blue state.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
So how should red states respond.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
I've got two former state lawmakers who actually chaired committees
on reapportionment. They'll join us and bring us inside what
those types of negotiations look like.
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Every Republican in America is furious that California Governor Gavin
Newsom u's political power to attack democracy by wiping five
seats off the map. That means that in a four
seat Republican majority, you could see a speaker Hakim Jeffreys,
Jamie Raskin, AOC empowered with committee chairs.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
It's all on the line now. There's only two kinds of.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
Republicans, those who are doing something about it and those
who aren't. One of them who is actually fighting back
is California State Representative David Tangipa. He's filing lawsuits and
he told us about him.
Speaker 13 (16:31):
We are suing this state for violating the Voter Rights Act.
They have to provide strict justification for why they decided
to use race as a means for their redistrict and
we can prove that the white majority districts actually don't
constitute a barrier for minorities. There is no justification for
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more minority Latino districts when they are the largest population
in the state to California and they have systematically dismantled
other minority voices by doing this.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
We stand with Representative Tanky, but but let's be honest.
The A strategy shouldn't be relied on a California lawsuit
to save the rest of us. If California is going
to squeeze their jurisdictions to get more Democrats elected to Congress,
then red states should do the same thing. I wanted
to get a sense of how that works in state
government because many, like in Indiana and elsewhere, are becoming recalcitrant.
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Joining us now two former state lawmakers from a red state,
the Sunshine State. Two folks who have actually led the
reapportionment process. Doug Holder was chairman of the congressional reapportionment
He's from the Sarasota community. Chris Doorwerth is a former
state representative from.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
The Orlando community.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
He led reapportionment for state legislative districts. Representative Holder, thanks
for joining us. How should Republicans be thinking about having
President Trump's back in these moments where Gavin Newsom has
acted so anti democratically.
Speaker 14 (18:00):
Well, it's very important that the Republicans push back. Whoever
is in control obviously makes decisions that benefit their party,
and that's just simply wrong because the people then don't
get a representative that represents their views in Washington. Therefore
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they end up with someone that is not who the
people actually want they're representing them and Chris, I.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
Think a lot of people watching this would say, well,
of course, Indiana, Florida, Louisiana, they should definitely respond to
what we saw from Newsom. But that isn't happening. They
can't get the votes in Indiana to do another reapportionment.
Bring us inside those smoke filled rooms and talk about
the influences on a lawmaker's choice.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
To go into a redistricting process.
Speaker 15 (18:50):
There's a saying you can't take the politics out of politics,
and unfortunately this is exactly that. If you assume that
the number one thing a member of Congress wants is
to be in the majority, you're wrong.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
They don't get paid more.
Speaker 15 (19:01):
They don't, they don't, they don't have they I guess
they're in charge of a committee. But at the end
of the day, they'd rather have the same district. If
you think about politics and the way we sort of
do it is like every ten years we apportioned districts,
and if we if a politician would rather have the
same district than be in power. So what's happening now?
There's a weird like divergence. On one side, there is
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a need for us to sort of man up, to
do the job, to post up and say we're gonna
take gavenutions, thinking we're gonna beat them at it. The
flip side is the people against it are the folks
who are in office. They're like, I don't want to
do this. I would rather I would much rather be,
you know, just in my safe district. So we have
to fight ourselves in order to make this happen. It's
it's kind of a Backaates celemma.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
Well, it is sad to see parochial interests for one
person's ambition or one person's district dominate over obviously what
the country needs. It is sad to think that somebody
would view their own access to a Senate seat or
a Congressional seat that they might like that might be
for them, is more important than supporting President Trump. How
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do we get some of these establishment lawmakers to wake
up and realize what time it is.
Speaker 14 (20:08):
Well, first of all, we have to stop the politicians
from choosing their voters and make sure that the voters
are able to choose the people that need to that
they want to represent them. That's what's most important. The
jerry mandering, all of these things that we're seeing happening
right now with the Democrats try to stack the deck
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in their favor.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
And have you seen cases where people actually put the
party's interests behind their own? Or you?
Speaker 15 (20:38):
But I mean, I mean you careful, I've never did that,
But you put your like you put the interest of
the people above the party. I don't care about the party.
I mean to me, the parties are ridiculous. These are
these are silly institutions that must be taken down in
some way or another. But the reality is that what
they deal with right now is that you have different
state parties that could easily add five to six, seven,
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eight seats to the build.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
Oh sure, majority told us many as twelve, as many
as twelve more seats could be on the Republican side
if they manned up. Well, if they went in and said, look,
Newsom is recutting his state, so we got to recut
our states. And if that means that there are fewer
Democrats that represent it, they can go thank Gavin Newsom.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
But I think what's happening is.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
They all still want to be at the Chamber of
Commerce luncheon. They all want to go to the you know,
to the local rotary club and have the Democrats there
like them. And they're willing in some of these states
to put the interests of the Trump agenda behind the
ease of running.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
In the same district. What would you say to one
of them if they were right?
Speaker 14 (21:43):
First of all, they're rigging the process, and when you
rig the process, you lose the voter's confidence. They start thinking, well,
what difference does it make? Why do I even need
to vote? Because they're not being represented properly. So we
have to stop these people like Gavin Newsom from doing
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what he's doing by trying to read Yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
I don't I don't know that it's so much that
these lawmakers, you know, are are like being sterling examples
of bipartisanship and like these austere notions.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
Of keeping everything how it is.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
I just think that politicians are predictable animals who want
predictable battle spaces.
Speaker 15 (22:27):
Their paycheck doesn't change. There sometimes I guess their office
might change, but like their committee chairmanship might change, but
their life doesn't change, they still make the same salary
they go to and from. They would much rather keep
the same district than than the they'll do.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
I mean, look, we've seen Chris Lasovita from from President
Trump's campaign come out and say they're going to be
consequences for these lawmakers who don't step up. You've seen
a real pressure campaign from the White House.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
At the end of the day, you know, are some state.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
Capital JV politicians really going to stop President Trump from
getting the majority of the House of Representatives.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
That he needs.
Speaker 15 (23:01):
Well, I mean Trump is a is a transformational figure
and he has to fight every step along the way.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
And this is no different the fact that a bunch
of local.
Speaker 15 (23:10):
You imagine you're a state rep and one day you'd
like to be a congressman, and you and and so
all of a sudden, your congressman comes to you and says,
don't change the districts between us.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
Just don't do it. You probably don't.
Speaker 15 (23:19):
And so I think institutionally there is a there's a
problem where these folks want to keep their jobs and
want to minimize the drama the and I think Donald
Trump needs their support. He needs these folks need to
man up to go do the job. They have to
go out and do that. They have to they have
to make an uncomfortable decision for themselves because it's what
it means to be a leader.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
That's what it means to be the leader of the country.
Speaker 15 (23:38):
I mean, like, if you want to be a congressman, Okay, fine,
it's a harder district.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
Take it there, you go, well, and it'll be these
state lawmakers in the very position you two are in,
dealing with these parochial demands, dealing with the personalities, and
we've got to rise above that. I really worry that
in some of these state capitals they don't understand the
importance of what this House majority means, because on the
other side of that, it gets It may not get
ugly for members that go from the majority of the minority,
(24:03):
but it will get very ugly for the Trump administration.
I mean, we had George Pavotopolis on the show tonight.
I remember when they were having every person who worked
at the White House have to go get hundreds of
thousands of dollars in legal fees, and they were doing
everything they could to smear good people who are trying
to do good things for the country.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
Let's hope they come to their senses as you two obviously.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
Have a former Representative Doug Holder, former chairman of the
Congressional Reapportionment Committee in Florida, former chairman of the State
House Reportionmit Committee, Chris Dorworth of Orlando.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
Thanks for joining us in the program. There's a huge
story coming.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
Out of the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania. Seventy five thousand voters
left off the voter rolls. We will be fearless and
asking questions about election integrity because if we don't do it,
the midterms are lost. Join us on the campaign to
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Speaker 2 (27:05):
Did the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania just lose seventy five thousand voters. Well,
they left seventy five thousand off the rolls, according to
new reporting that we see in the Federalist. Harmi Dillon
is the Deputy Attorney General for the Civil Rights Division.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
Here was her reaction to.
Speaker 16 (27:20):
The news Pennsylvania Chester County had seventy five thousand voters
who were independent. They simply weren't included on the poll book.
And that means that, you know, some of them are
turned away. And it's a real failure to imagine disenfranchising
virtually seventy five thousand people in an election. And there
were you know, three Supreme Court judge races on the election,
(27:42):
very important races. That's the margin, I mean, one vote
is the margin in an election. So that's a massive fail.
So I think people can expect that there will be
follow up action from the DJ.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
Good. It is a massive fail. And this isn't just anywhere.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
Pennsylvania the ultimate prize among the swing states. And remember
President Trump does quite well with non affiliated voters. They
see him as a cure to a system that is
often failing them on a variety of fronts.
Speaker 1 (28:12):
So let's just acknowledge that.
Speaker 2 (28:14):
You're allowed to ask questions about election integrity without being
vilified as some sort of threat to democracy. See, we're
in this position where there's like this unwritten code that
if you even present this type of reporting, if you
ask these questions, if you review this type of data,
that somehow you're trying to get the American people to
(28:34):
not believe.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
In the outcomes of our elections. And it is just
the opposite. The best way to restore.
Speaker 2 (28:40):
Trust in elections is to have full transparency. And when
these types of problems arise, we have to fix them quickly.
And will we have the opportunity to do that before
the all important midterms? Joining US now Elections correspondent for
the Federalists Breonna Lyman. So, Brianna, what is going on
in Pennsylvania?
Speaker 17 (28:58):
Yeah, Chester County has had this real big issue. I
think they're still actually counting provisional ballots. So the way
it works in Pennsylvania is you go on election day
and you sign your name in these poll books. But
what happened in Chester County is they only listed Republican
or Democrat voters. They didn't list independent or on affiliated voters,
and so what they had to do that day is
(29:18):
they had to tell all of these independents or unaffiliated
voters to vote provisionally. Now, the big problem with that
is want the amount of time it takes. We're talking
thousands of ballots that these election officials in the county
now have to go through and see if these are
indeed eligible voters. That takes a lot of time. Imagine
if this was a presidential race and it's on the margins,
how on edge we would all be. The other problem,
(29:41):
according to some reporting from the Federalist, is some areas
were not following the regular instructions and instead of giving
an individual a provisional ballot, they were having the individual
sign their name on blank pages in the poll book
and then voting regularly. The issue with that, of course,
is we have secret ballots. So if they voted and
they didn't vote provisionally, once their ballot was cast, you
(30:02):
can't remove that from the tally. What if somebody was
a non citizen, what if they didn't live in the county. Right,
There's a whole host of issues. So there have a
lot of problems over there.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
What you just described is insane. What's next?
Speaker 2 (30:16):
People voting by message in a bottle or a carrier pigeon.
The concerns that you've seen in Chester County, are you
worried that some of these may appear in other counties
in Pennsylvania?
Speaker 9 (30:29):
Oh?
Speaker 17 (30:29):
Absolutely, And again going into the midterms, going into the
presidential election, all eyes are on Pennsylvania given you the
staff foos that we saw in twenty twenty and just
concerns about election integrity. And this is one of those
examples where at the county level you think it's not
that important, but thousands of people had to vote provisionally.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
How do you play defense against this most effectively as
as really a candidate or a political party that just
wants to see a fair election.
Speaker 17 (31:00):
Yeah, I think having parity if I'm correct, I think
there's one Republican official on the county Board of Elections
or the county that deals with elections. So making sure
there's party is a good way to restore some trust.
Voter lists maintenance, I guess polebook maintenance would be good.
I'm not sure how they didn't catch this leading up
to the election. Did they just get the poll books
on Tuesday and say, Okay, we have a problem. So
(31:22):
maybe some kind of process to let them look at
it a week beforehand, make sure there's independence and unaffiliated
voters listed.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
One of the things that we worry about is that
the path to the majority in the House of Representatives
runs through blue states. Like it's not going to be
some swing district in Florida or even likely Georgia or
Texas that decide this thing. California and New York produce
a number of Republican seats, or at least they did
before their states started to cheat with jerrymandering. But where
(31:53):
are the places you're watching that you think still have
the worst systems in place that require the most oversight.
Speaker 17 (32:00):
Well, I think Wisconsin is a really good state. My
colleague Matt Khittle reports on this just wonderfully. And one
of the big issues in Wisconsin is voter list maintenance.
That's actually not unique to Wisconsin, but we see a
lot of issues there. County election officials either they just
had oversight when it comes to voter list maintenance, maybe
they didn't know how to do it, maybe they just
decided not to do it. And we see this in
(32:21):
other states, but Wisconsin's a big one, right. We saw
Wisconsin had their Supreme Court election swung hard left again,
So going into again the midterms and the presidential election,
that's a state I'd be watching.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
And if there are good legislators who want to improve
the hygieniene of elections in their states, where do you
look to and say this is the state if we
could lift up their policies.
Speaker 1 (32:46):
And pollinate them around the country.
Speaker 2 (32:48):
We'd have good chain of custody, good voter ID and fast,
reliable results.
Speaker 1 (32:52):
For the people.
Speaker 17 (32:54):
Yeah, I think there's a few places. Georgia has done
a really good job in terms of voter ID. We
remember the infamous Jim Row two point zero, which really
was just voter ID laws that in fact voters after
twenty twenty one, so they had an easy time voting.
The Washington Post did a report speaking to black voters
who said, this is some of the easiest voting I've
ever done in Georgia. So implementing voter ID laws, look
(33:14):
to Georgia. Over in Texas, they do a decent job
of voterless maintenance. Secretary of State in Texas Nelson, she
does a really good job keeping track. There's still work
to be done, but those are the places I would
look to.
Speaker 3 (33:29):
Well.
Speaker 2 (33:29):
As the midterms approach is the stories. So what are
the places that you think are going to really be
dispositive to see that Republicans are able to make control.
Speaker 17 (33:41):
I mean, I'm looking right now, but my biggest concerns
for twenty twenty six is New York. I'm thinking of
New York seventeen. Mike Waller. He does a good job
presenting his district. He wins it decently, but with the
influx of people leaving Manhattan, especially with mom Donnie's win,
they're going to go up north and you hit Lawler's
district almost immediately. That's a really big seat. I want
to hold on too.
Speaker 1 (34:02):
I also am.
Speaker 17 (34:03):
Concerned about Virginia. We know that Virginia Democrats swept the
House of Delegates race last week. Apparently there's talk of
redistricting there, so we could possibly lose a seat or
two in Virginia, which could be detrimental to Republicans holding
the majority.
Speaker 1 (34:18):
And are there any state laws?
Speaker 2 (34:19):
You mentioned Georgia, And I'm so glad you did, because
Georgia was kind of a laughing stock after the twenty
twenty election.
Speaker 1 (34:26):
They couldn't, you know, they couldn't.
Speaker 2 (34:27):
Explain why some of the results were so late arriving,
particularly in Fulton County and in Florida. There's a requirement
that these results roll in every eight minutes so that
there's not an ecosystem that allows cheating. But Georgia did improve.
Georgia did make things better, and they deserve credit for that.
Are you rooting for any other states that have a
(34:49):
real effort like that underway to have good election integrity.
Speaker 17 (34:55):
I'm trying to think. I was really rooting for Maine.
Actually last week they did have a ballot initiative for
or voter ID. It did not pass, unfortunately, so I
was hoping that some other states would kind of take
that initiative. But again, that brings us to the larger conversation.
We need to have nationwide voter ID laws. We need
to pass the SAVE Act, which is documentary proof of
citizenship to register to vote. Republicans may not have an
(35:17):
opportunity this time next year if they lose the majority,
so they have to get through common sense election integrity
reforms starting with the SAVE Act.
Speaker 2 (35:26):
There is no one we would rather go around the
country with and talk about election integrity than Breonna Lyman,
elections correspondent at the Federalists.
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that says that all of you, the American people, want
to send more of your money to foreign countries. We're
not so sure that's right, so we'll ask him about
the questions and the answers.
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Speaker 18 (39:02):
These are some of the insane priorities that that organization
has been spending money on. One point five million dollars
to advance DEI in Serbia's workplaces, seventy thousand for a
production of a DEI musical in Ireland, forty seven thousand
for a transgender opera in Colombia thirty two thousand for
a transgender comic book in Peru. I don't know about you,
(39:25):
but as an American taxpayer, I don't want my dollars
going towards this crap.
Speaker 2 (39:31):
So all of that stuff sounds insane to us and
probably to most Americans. That's why it surprised us when
we saw a new poll from the McLaughlin Group suggesting
that there is strong support in the Republican base and
throughout the country for international aid. The survey tounts the
fact that President Trump's base is supporting international aid at
(39:52):
a very high rate. Democrats are the highest supporting group
at eighty six percent. But just listen to how the
question is framed. Here's the Q, and I'll read it
to you. The US government supports our allies abroad, reduces
migration and helps people suffering from starvation and natural disasters,
and improves global health so that Americans are not exposed
to illness.
Speaker 1 (40:12):
Generally speaking, do you support or.
Speaker 2 (40:13):
Oppose the United States providing funding for this type of
international assistance? So that through the question in this particular case,
the polster definitionally cleaves out the very things that often
fill the international aid coffers, and so we wanted to
dissess it more.
Speaker 1 (40:32):
We invited that poster on the program.
Speaker 2 (40:34):
McLaughlin and associates did the poll. Jim McLaughlin is indeed
a polling guru and joins us. Now, so, Jim, what
are you hoping people gather from these numbers that you've
published regarding sentiment on foreign aid?
Speaker 1 (40:48):
Yeah?
Speaker 19 (40:48):
You know what was really interesting, I think a lot
of it what had showed was the confidence they have
in President Trump Secretary of State Rubio that we saw
a lot more confidence in them wanting to give assistance
for both national security reasons and for humanitarian reasons. So
I think it says a lot about the administration and
(41:10):
the trust they have with them. And I think it
also says a lot about the successes that the Trump
that the Trump administration has had in foreign affairs.
Speaker 1 (41:22):
I don't doubt those successes.
Speaker 2 (41:24):
I'm sure that people are with them on it, but
if I can push back a little.
Speaker 1 (41:27):
This also has something to do with the construction of
the question.
Speaker 2 (41:30):
Right, Like the question you ask isn't do you support usaid?
Speaker 1 (41:35):
Do you support foreign aid?
Speaker 2 (41:36):
It's like, well, if it's key for a natural disaster,
and if it's essential for you not getting an illness,
would you support giving money to another country. Do you
think that sentiment would have been different in these numbers
if you would have asked a more general question about
foreign aid or its principle prevey or USAID.
Speaker 1 (41:53):
And look, we didn't.
Speaker 19 (41:54):
The reason we didn't ask about USAID is because what's
one of the things that they liked is the public
private partnerships and they now trust the State Department. They
liked the fact that they're the ones doling out the
foreign aid. And again, I think it goes back to
the confidence that they're showing in President Trump, in Secretary
(42:16):
of State Rubio.
Speaker 3 (42:18):
And look, we all know what.
Speaker 1 (42:20):
Happened during the Biden years.
Speaker 19 (42:22):
During the Biden years, basically they left the playing field.
And what happened was you had you know, former allies
put you know, countries like India, You had you know,
countries like Egypt. We saw all the great things that
the president did with the Abraham Accords, and what was
happening was countries that used to be our allies were
(42:42):
going into the arms of you know, China and Jijingping
and Vladimir Putin and Iran, so what this allows this
administration to do is set up both national security and
economic alliances. And again it shows the confidence that they
have in this administration be able to do it. And look,
it's only zero it's zero point zero two five percent
(43:06):
of the budget. We're not talking about a lot of
a lot of money here. It's money that is going
to be strategically spent to help the country's economic needs
and also the national security needs.
Speaker 2 (43:21):
And I can sede that you do this poll after
a lot of things had been pulled out of foreign aid,
like the transgender comic books in Peru and the pride
parades in Prague and a lot of that, And so
perhaps that's baked in.
Speaker 1 (43:34):
But I mean, Jim, if you just.
Speaker 2 (43:36):
Asked the question of the American body politic, do you
trust the State Department, their numbers would be pretty bad,
wouldn't they wouldn't people be more I mean, I worry
that people would read your poll and say, oh, well, gosh,
we should give more money to other countries.
Speaker 1 (43:52):
And I actually don't think that's what the American people want.
Speaker 19 (43:55):
Yeah, but what it is is we tied it back
to the America First agenda, and that's what they trust
when we said, you know, it was literally clear majorities
they supported the international assistants. And we use the word
international assistants. And it's because it's tied back to President
Trump's America First agenda. And again, look, the American people,
(44:16):
whether it's Republicans, whether it's Conservatives, whether it's Democrats or independents,
they know we can't be isolationists.
Speaker 1 (44:25):
And that's been one.
Speaker 19 (44:26):
Of the great successes of President Trump's you know, first
year in office, has been the fact he's been able
to build these alliances. And you know, it's funny, he's
been attacked by the media, he's been attacked by the Democrats.
But what the President has done is a brilliant job
of tying our economic security along with our national security.
Speaker 1 (44:47):
I mean, think about it.
Speaker 19 (44:48):
He's already brought brought in what over fifteen trillion dollars
in new investment into the United States, and they realize
that it's all tied together. And again we're not talking
about a lot of money.
Speaker 2 (45:01):
You think people realize, well, hold on, all, you made
a big elite there. Do you think people link other
countries making investments in the United States to US.
Speaker 1 (45:10):
Giving foreign aid?
Speaker 2 (45:11):
What's your basis for that position, because it seems to
me that that the investment is a consequence of the
tearff policy, not our foreign aid policy.
Speaker 19 (45:19):
Yeah, and look, that's what they understand is with President Trump,
it's gonna be about America first and whether it's getting
us better trade agreements, better economic agreements, He's gonna do
the same thing when it comes to putting America's interests
first to make sure. Look when he you know, he
got a lot of flat for what he did with Argentina,
(45:42):
but the reason he did that it's much better for
us to have Argentina as an ally and have somebody
like jabber Malay in charge versus one of these Marxist dictators.
And we all know how that has worked out in
a lot of these other countries.
Speaker 2 (45:58):
No, we've we've been studying it closely, and we don't
want to see Latin America fall to the leftists and
the tyrants. Jim McLaughlin, thank you for bringing us the
numbers and chopping it up with me.
Speaker 1 (46:09):
Always a pleasure. Thank you, Matt, thank you.
Speaker 2 (46:14):
And coming up, we will look into that campaign in
the Caribbean to take on the narco traffickers and we'll
get a sense about how other Latin American countries are
seeing these efforts from Secretary of Hegseth and President Trump
don't go anywhere.
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decades in foreign lands. Now we're doing it in defense
of the American people with all the authorities. We got
lawyers on lawyers, all the authorities necessary to do so.
Treating these terrorists like the Al Qaeda of the Western hemisphere.
Speaker 2 (49:20):
That's your Secretary of War, Pete Hegseth, And the man
does sound like he's on a war path against the
narcos and traffickers who have had a promissive environment in
the Eastern Pacific and the Gulf of America for far
too long. This is drawing a great deal of focus
on the nation of Venezuela, functionally a narcos state, a
state where a lot of the drugs that are grown
in Columbia, Oblivion, Peru can make their way into the
(49:42):
United States of America. Secretary Rubio commented on the subject
and said intervention alone wouldn't be enough.
Speaker 21 (49:49):
The problem is in addictions alone are not effective. You
have to incentivize this industry that these terrorists are using
to flood our country with heroin, with cocaine, with fetanyl.
Interdictions have to no deterrent effect these drug organizations. They've
already baked in the fact they may lose five percent
of their drug shipments, it doesn't stop them from coming
continuing to do it. What you have seen is an
(50:10):
impact on drug boats. You have seen them much less
of you're starting to see it. It's in both the
Pacific and in the Caribbean base and especially in the Caribbean.
This is a counter drug operation and if they stop
sending drug boats there won't be any problem.
Speaker 2 (50:24):
Amazingly, and indeed surprisingly, Europe has responded to the United
States cleaning up its own backyard. We had the French
born Foreign Minister weighing in saying that there wasn't a
lawful authority for the strikes that the United States has
been carrying out and likely will continue to carry out
against these narco traffickers. Of course, Secretary Rubio had something
to say about that.
Speaker 21 (50:45):
I don't think that the European Union gets to determine
what international laws. They certainly don't get to determine is
how the United States defense its national security. The United
States is under attack from organized criminal narco terrorists in
our hemisphere, and the President is responding in the defense
of our country. I do find it interesting that all
these countries want us to send, you know, and supply,
(51:06):
for example, nuclear capable Tomahawk missiles to defend Europe. But
when the United States positions aircraft carriers in our hemisphere
where we live, somehow, that's a problem. So I would
say that the United States is and this president has
made very clear his job is to protect the United
States from threats against the United States, and that is
what he's doing in this operation.
Speaker 2 (51:25):
Joining us now to discuss as political strategists and expert
on Latin American affairs, Gamian Merleau Damien, what is Europe
doing weighing in on the United States policing the Gulf
of America.
Speaker 22 (51:37):
Well, thanks for having me, mad, It's great to be
here in the South. They're safest country in the hemisphere.
Can't be said the same thing about men Azuela at Caracas.
I think, you know, the United States is doing the
right things. You know, we're taking care of our hemisphere.
You know, we're always asked to take care of other
countries far far away from America, from American shores.
Speaker 1 (51:56):
This is our third border.
Speaker 5 (51:57):
You know, the golf is.
Speaker 22 (51:59):
A place where a lot of drug trafficking is taking place.
And you know, in Venezuela we have a narco state
where not only do they harbor narco terrorists, but the
country's actually run by a head of a cartel as
designated by the US State Department and Department of Justice
and the Treasury Department. So I think you know what
the United States doing, the Secretary of War, the Secretary
(52:21):
of State, there's just protecting American lives by taking out
these narco terrorists that are trying to bring Alista drugs
in the United States.
Speaker 2 (52:30):
You know so much about the body politic in Latin America,
and I get it that we have a sword history here.
You know, the United Fruit and Standard food days weren't great.
Not all of the decisions the United States made on
who to back in Latin America were good ones.
Speaker 1 (52:46):
And by the way, that goes through the Biden.
Speaker 2 (52:48):
Administration, I would say, do you think the people in
Latin America will react favorably if the United States uses
military force to really neutralize these cartels?
Speaker 22 (53:01):
Well, I think I think they do. I mean, I
think you see a trend all over Latin America. There's
a trend of shifting to the right. In countries like Bolivia,
for over twenty years was led by leftists, you know,
quasi communist leaders now have a pro US conservative new
president's just sworn in last week, and so I think
(53:21):
in Latin America people see the United States as finally
paying attention to the Hemisphere.
Speaker 1 (53:27):
And you know, let's not joke ourselves.
Speaker 22 (53:30):
A lot of this spread of this leftist movements throughout
the region originate with Cuban intelligence and Venezuela and funding.
And so I think this goes way far beyond just
dealing with the Madure regime. This will have repercussions for
security throughout the hemisphere.
Speaker 2 (53:47):
I just want the right to win, and I think
that this is a place where that's really for grads. Right,
We've got the Cuba Venezuela increasingly Columbia model that is
trying to pull continent to the left. And then you
have the bucel A model for strong nations, strong borders,
the Mila model that is, you know, for austerity when necessary,
(54:09):
to try to have a physically conservative approach to spending.
And you know, can can this be a constant struggle
or does one side win and one side lose? Or
is this just something we're gonna we're gonna be fighting
over for the next two decades.
Speaker 22 (54:24):
Well, I think that they're always there's always gonna be
this struggle. What I think what you see here in
El Salvador, which is great, you know, it's the safest
country in the MSPs have said, you've got a president
that's implementing more than left or right policies, have COmON sense.
You know, people are just tired of not being able
to walk the streets at night, not feeling safe in
their own neighborhoods, in their own cities. And so what
(54:45):
you see in a lot of these countries is that
conservative policies tend to favor the rule of law, whereas
the leftists tend to be more of a Kumbai approach,
let everyone do what they want, including criminals. You've see
year in Elsautha, their whites it's safe because they've put
behind bars all the criminal gang members. And what you've
(55:05):
seen in leftist countries is they have this sort of
approach where, oh, you know, it's not their fall, the
community and the society has failed them, and that's not
really the case.
Speaker 1 (55:15):
So the struggle is that is left.
Speaker 22 (55:16):
And right, and I do think the conservative movements are
going to come out on top, but it's all about
common sense.
Speaker 2 (55:23):
The conservative movement seem to arise from a populism and
a need for security like the Maslow's hierarchy of needs
that we all learn being indeed met by right leaning leaders.
But the left's main ally has been these NGOs Open
Society foundation funded by George Soros, but many funded by
US taxpayers. Are you still seeing those NGOs operationally effective
(55:48):
in Central America throughout Latin America or did the reforms
that Secretary of Rubio and Elon Musk implemented a handicapped
them in any meaningful way.
Speaker 22 (55:58):
Well, I think they've been greatly handicapped on two fronts. One,
I think President Trump get rid of USAID, which was
ridiculous because they were funding groups that were chanting anti
American slogans. So we were essentially funding people that were bashing.
Speaker 5 (56:12):
Our own policies.
Speaker 22 (56:13):
And second, what you see with groups like George Soros
is that they've seen their influence diminished, and so by
having their influence diminished, they almost.
Speaker 1 (56:21):
See it as an investment. What do I get out
of it?
Speaker 22 (56:23):
And so in a country like Olsavadra, source hit a
brick wall, as President Muquela eloquently said at Sepack, and
so they've kind of retreated, and you know, they've realized
that you know at one point when this just don't
have the power to influence leftist governments that you know,
the average citizens sees through their bull crap. Excuse my French,
(56:44):
and this just don't believe it anymore.
Speaker 2 (56:46):
We will not excuse the French while they're criticizing us
for attacking Arco's and the Gulf of America.
Speaker 1 (56:50):
But your point is well taken.
Speaker 2 (56:51):
We want to see those NGOs retreating and surrendering to
the will of the people in these countries, and we
know that that will lead them the right way. Damian Merleau,
political strategist, expert on Latin American affairs.
Speaker 1 (57:03):
Thanks for joining us. That's all the time we have.
Speaker 2 (57:05):
We'll be back tomorrow night, nine o'clock East from six specific.
Make sure to sign up for the OA and Live
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