Matt Gaetz Show - Mark Mitchell, Rep. Ralph Norman, Katie Zacheria, Jessi Blake, Adam Weiss

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's election hangover day.

Speaker 2 (00:02):
Democrats won everywhere there was a meaningful competition. But don't
be a pannikin. We'll break it all down with Ace Polster,
Mark Mitchell. Plus, we've got Republican Congressman Ralph Norman here
with the latest on Capitol Hill. Will the election result
hasten an end to the government shutdown that happened as
a result of Chuck Schumer. Will go from state to
state and even to California with Katie Zacharia. It's all

(00:24):
next on the Matt Gates Show.

Speaker 1 (00:25):
Let's do this. We'll shaking up Washington, d C. We're
breaking the fever.

Speaker 3 (00:31):
You haven't watched this guy on television.

Speaker 1 (00:33):
It's like a machine.

Speaker 4 (00:35):
He's great.

Speaker 1 (00:36):
Matt Gates.

Speaker 2 (00:41):
We are on assignment again in the Sunshine State and
all of America's reacting to an election that occurred largely
in blue states and jurisdictions where Democrats held serve. President
Trump reacted to the ongoing shutdown and those election results.

Speaker 1 (00:55):
Take a listen last night.

Speaker 3 (00:57):
It was not expecting to be a vigor agement. I
don't think it was good for Republicans. I don't think
it was good. I'm not sure it was good for anybody.
If you read the pulses, and the shutdown was a
big factor negative for the Republicans, and it is Democrat created.
But I don't think there are any really the blame
that they should. The Democrat radicals and the Senative shown

(01:18):
zero interest in reopening the government. I think these guys
are kamikaze. You'll take down the country if they have to.

Speaker 2 (01:24):
President Trump obviously wants this shutdown to end. It was
Chuck Schumer who created the conditions that led to the
shutdown by refusing to vote for a continuing resolution that
he had supported just repeatedly before. In fact, those were
Biden spending levels. But it's not the blame game President
Trump is interested in. It's the winning game, and that's
where we have to draw central focus. Vikra Maswami is

(01:47):
running for governor of Ohio. He has a message for Republicans.
Take listen.

Speaker 5 (01:51):
We got all handed to us in New Jersey, Virginia,
and New York City. Democrats slept all three. There's two
key lessons for Republicans and carefully. Number one, our side
needs to focus on affordability. Make the American dream affordable,
bring down costs, electric costs, grocery costs, healthcare costs, and

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housing costs, and lay.

Speaker 1 (02:13):
Out how we're going to do it.

Speaker 6 (02:15):
And number two.

Speaker 5 (02:15):
Cut out the identity politics. It doesn't suit Republicans. It's
not for us. That's the woke left's game, not ours.
We don't care about the color of your skin or
your religion. We care about the content of your character.
That's who we are.

Speaker 2 (02:28):
The two pieces of advice delivered by Remeswami are I
think always good pieces of advice.

Speaker 1 (02:33):
It's probably always a.

Speaker 2 (02:34):
Good thing to focus on pocketbook issues and to build
coalitions that are getting larger. That's certainly what President Trump
did in the twenty twenty four election. But don't be
a pannikin vivic what we saw Republicans perform at similar
levels of President Trump. And it's not as if there's
some massive eroding component to President Trump's coalition. Otherwise you
would have seen win some seiers get way fewer votes

(02:56):
than President Trump did by percentage, and that's not the case.
So here we see the coalition largely intact, and I'm
not entirely sure that all of the repositioning of messaging
is necessary. That said, we did hear from James Blair,
President Trump's Deputy chief of Staff, regarding the President's focus
on affordability and pocketbook issues in the wake of these election.

Speaker 7 (03:17):
Results, Seventy five percent of Mickey Sheryl's ads were positive,
overwhelmingly talking about cost of living and heavily talking about
lowering power costs. Jack didn't really talk about that. He
talked about taxes, and he won the tax vote, but
he didn't address those key issues of affordability very effectively.
He was mostly talking generically about change New Jersey. And
I'm not denigrating Jack, but it was not in line

(03:39):
necessarily with what voters were saying.

Speaker 4 (03:40):
Too.

Speaker 7 (03:41):
In Virginia, over half of when some serieres ads talked
about transgender and it's not even the top five issues
according to voters. Why did John Mondani do so well
last night? He relentlessly focused on affordability. People to talk
about communists, they can say all these things, but the
fact is he was talking about the cost of living.

Speaker 2 (03:59):
So it sounds for Blair like there might be a
nip or a tuck here and there, But overall President
Trump's agenda is moving forward. President Trump has created net
negative migration in this country. He has imposed a terraf
regime that has resulted in many billions of dollars in
additional funds for state treasuries while not taking those those
taxes out of the pockets of regular Americans. We didn't

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see the economy crumble. We did see the stock market rebound,
and we think that Republican fortunes will rebound too. But
we wanted to make sure, so we brought in the
smartest numbers guy we know in the business. I got
exactly who I wanted on the program tonight. He is
the head of pulling in operations at Rasmussen Ace Polster.

Speaker 1 (04:39):
Mark Mitchell joins us Mark. What happened last night.

Speaker 4 (04:43):
Uh, something pretty predictable.

Speaker 8 (04:45):
I've been screaming about Republicans and everybody calls me a
black pillar. I like to think of myself actually as
a lookout. I made a really big stink back in
July about the way they handled the Epstein thing, and
guess what, I think that's one of the things that
really made Independence angry. What happened is that last night,
even though the polling never showed that any of the
Republicans was going to win, the Republicans did even worse

(05:07):
than expect It and it's because they didn't get the
independence out now. Back in November at twenty twenty four,
Donald Trump, forty two percent of his support in my
polling came from an independence and crossover Democrats. And look
at a race like New Jersey, Jack CHERRELLI only got
seventy percent of Trump twenty twenty four voters, but Mikey
Cheryl she got eighty nine percent of Harris voters. So

(05:27):
basically what happened, and yeah, there's probably a little bit
of fraud there as well, but basically what happened is
Trump resistance is enough to motive motivate the Democrats.

Speaker 4 (05:38):
They have a really great machine.

Speaker 8 (05:40):
Jack CHERRELLI ran like a Republican in a blue state
and he got his butt handed to him because he's
not trying to really change the system in a way
that people thought that Donald Trump was so right now,
the Republican Party, I just don't think is inspiring people
that their Trump's actually going to be able to get
his O MAGA focused Democrat domestic agenda through.

Speaker 4 (06:01):
And you got to look at what's the backdrop here.

Speaker 8 (06:04):
You have a government shut down, and I said they
should shut the government down, but it was always as
like a hammer to actually get things from America. Well,
that's not happening. They don't have a plan. They look
completely ineffectual. Donald Trump's jet setting all over the world,
not focused on domestic policy, and what do you have
the right doing? Eating each other alive over a made
up issue that they shouldn't be focusing on right now.

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So it's a complete mess. Like no wonder non Republican
Trump voters didn't turn out.

Speaker 2 (06:34):
Let me give some pushback. This was Democrats holding surf.
This was Democrats doing what they typically do in blue states.
Virginia always gives a rebuttal to which way the national
election went in their off year gubernatorial elections, and other
than New Jersey, where you're right, there was a real
underperformance from Chitdarelli. You saw sears about where Trump was

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in Virginia. You saw California do what California does in Jersey,
like Chitarelli was a uniquely flawed candidate. The guy had
run three times, voters were used to voting against him.
They'd already been conditioned to vote against him. So maybe
I'm not as panicked as you are. I don't see
a major component of the Trump coalition eroding. I think

(07:16):
it's indeed a matter of getting those low propensity voters motivated.
But I still think we can write the ship is
my is my optimism unfairly tilted to the sunshine.

Speaker 8 (07:28):
I think the writing's on the wall, Matt for traditional
conservatism and the establishment Republican Party. And yeah, you could say,
all right, maybe let's not freak out about this, like
jd Vance came out and said, yeah, blue states elected
blue people. Well, Jack Chitterly went from minus three to
minus thirteen. That's a pretty big deal. But you know
it's a big deal because Donald Trump invited all, actually

(07:49):
commanded all of the Republican senators this morning to a
breakfast so he could rail against them and how the
shutdown is messing things up, and how they need to
use the nuclear option, something I've been calling for for
least February.

Speaker 4 (08:02):
And so let's look very specifically.

Speaker 8 (08:03):
I think that the young people are really the future
of where this country is going to go. And right
now the Democrats have adopted the youth position, which is
democratic socialism, in a way that feels to them probably
like they're coming home. It feels really great, we can
finally be the socialists that the right has been fearing
that we're going to become But on the right, what

(08:24):
do you see. You see all these boomer cons clinging
with white knuckles to a set of values that has
not worked for the younger generation. Republicans don't have an
answer for them, and it's going to get worse and
worse and worse because people overwhelmingly say they want to
see more economic populism. But the Democratic Party is perceived
by everybody to be the economic populist platform. We all

(08:44):
know the Republican Party doesn't want economic populism at all.
They want more form born workers to come in and
drive wages down, which is what destroyed the middle class.
And so I think, you know, the youth looking at
the Republican Party and saying, like, what's your plan for us?

Speaker 4 (08:59):
Right now?

Speaker 8 (08:59):
You're just fighting over Nick Flentes and not getting anything done.
If you look at the eighteen to thirty nine year
old age bracket, they gave Trump a sixty percent job
approval rating just back in February. It was the highest
of any age group. The eighteen to twenty nine are
at thirty five percent right now. That's absolutely plunged. And
so when was Donald Trump most popular with those people.

(09:21):
It's when they were seeing on the Internet that he
was ripping apart the government. The internet matters. People say,
the Internet's not real life. Well guess what to everybody
under fifty it is. Baron Trump knows this because they
ran that campaign. I joked about it today, But they
should make Baron Trump a deputy chief of staff. Like
they need to get better messaging because they these young

(09:42):
people want aggressive action because they perceived that the economy
is at crisis levels.

Speaker 4 (09:47):
Their future has been stolen from them.

Speaker 8 (09:49):
They tell us that time and time again in the polling,
and if they can't get it fixed through Trump, they're
going to vote Democrat Socialist.

Speaker 2 (09:57):
The question is can you resolve this with that candidate's election? Right,
If the Republican Party takes as a message from this election,
maybe get away from the knuckle clutching boomer cons and
embrace younger candidates, candidates who are going to talk about
change and ripping apart the system in a compelling way.
Does that get the Republican Party? It's mojo back from

(10:18):
your perspective.

Speaker 8 (10:20):
I think people want to see authenticity. I think people
want to see based they don't care about conservative values,
that the word doesn't mean anything to them. There's a
lot of things that the boomers value that don't mean
anything to the zoomers. They don't care about traditional marriage,
they don't care about Western values, they don't care about
free market capitalism. They just want these situations fixed, and
they're kind of on the cusp of being able to
do it themselves. Politically, all of the people under fifty.

(10:42):
Just look at how much the country's turned on Israel
in the last two years. And I don't want to
make it about Israel, but that's just a very salient
thing that we've been pulling on. Eighteen to twenty nine
are only twenty one percent supportive of Israel, but the
sixty five and older are fifty nine percent. It's they're
like fifty that points apart. And what do you see
right now, complete fight over this issue. Well, what happens

(11:03):
when because of young people, the country turns on like
let's say NATO, like this is the future. And again
they still keep running these candidates. Now, that's fine, pick
better candidates. But I've polled in MAGA states or sorry,
I've pulled in blue states for MAGA candidates, and I
see this pattern over and over again. The state has
an establishment Republican party. Everybody I poll says they would

(11:24):
rather have a MAGA candidate.

Speaker 4 (11:25):
They don't.

Speaker 8 (11:26):
They hate their state party. It's it's establishment. They run
cowardly candidates and then the MAGA person does better, but
they're going to lose, and so they go to the
Trump administration. Administration doesn't want to talk to them because
they're not going to endorse them because they're not going
to win. The RNC, the NRSC, the RGA, they don't
want to talk to them because they're not going to
spend money on losers.

Speaker 4 (11:46):
And so we're taking these.

Speaker 8 (11:47):
Like purpleish to only somewhat blue states completely writing them off,
running nothing ideologically, and across the country, these people don't
even know what to run on. They try and make
it a local election and they get slaughtered because everybody's
voting to resist Trump. So something has to change. They
need they to centralized strategy, they need money.

Speaker 2 (12:07):
Yeah, and well, I believe better candidates go a long way.
And I think that you describe a dynamic and politics
often where the establishment is established for a reason, they're
typically good at it. And if we don't break through
that in some way, then it could be a more
dangerous mid term than we had originally anticipated. Mark Mitchell,
ahead of polling and operations at Rasmussen. Thanks for joining

(12:30):
us on the program and sharing your expertise.

Speaker 4 (12:32):
Great to be here.

Speaker 2 (12:35):
Coming up, Congressman Ralph Norman has all the latest on
the rumors on Capitol Hill of a potential deal to
end the shutdown. We'll talk about what that means for
policy and politics.

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Speaker 1 (15:04):
Welcome Back.

Speaker 2 (15:04):
President Trump was on Capitol Hill today and he gathered
Republicans in a series of strategy sessions to discuss what
to do next in the wake of the election results
and the government shutdown that is now the longest in
US history.

Speaker 1 (15:17):
Here was the message from the President.

Speaker 3 (15:20):
It's time for Republicans to do what they have to do,
and that's terminate the filibuster. It's the only way you
can do it. And if you don't terminate the filibuster,
you'll be in bad shape. We won't pass any legislation.
There will be no legislation passed for three in a quarter.
We have three and a quarter years, so it's a
long time. And we should do our own bills. We
should get out, We should do our own bills. We

(15:40):
should open up. We should start tonight with the country's
open congratulations. Then we should pass a voter ID, we
should pass.

Speaker 4 (15:49):
No mail in voting.

Speaker 3 (15:50):
We should pass all the things that we wanted to pass,
make our elections secure, and say because California is a disaster,
many of the states are disasters.

Speaker 2 (16:00):
There's a lot of signal in that message. President Trump
understands that it's not enough to just rest on laurels
and continue to point to the One Big, Beautiful Bill Act.
Though the implementation of that legislation will lead to a
lot of popular consequences like lower energy prices and lower
costs for a lot of the groceries that people have
to acquire on a weekly basis.

Speaker 1 (16:20):
So President Trump here is saying there's a lot.

Speaker 2 (16:22):
There's the voter id issue that has to be addressed,
and by the way, that may be essential to winning
some of these states that have traditionally been so blue
and where the Republican infrastructure still needs to be built
up substantially. So President Trump indeed working on that, calling
for an end to the filibuster. We've heard Marjorie Taylor
Green call for similar things on this program, and we

(16:44):
think the message may be getting through to people who
are in the Senate or even Senate aspirans. Very Moore
is an Alabama congressman who's running for the Senate, and
he seems to think that President Trump's leadership on the
issue could be the deciding factor.

Speaker 1 (16:58):
Take listen, now where they go from here?

Speaker 4 (17:00):
Do they in fact use a nuclear option?

Speaker 10 (17:02):
I think in some ways the Republicans will look like
the heroes if they go in and open the government.
I don't know what that looks like for our country
down the road. We've ran it this way for two
hundred and fifty years without that.

Speaker 4 (17:11):
So just have seat. It shakes out at this point.

Speaker 10 (17:13):
I don't know what I would do on that until
I visit with the President and got some clarification on
what his position was and why it feels like this
is the right thing to do.

Speaker 2 (17:23):
So, as President Trump is calling on Republicans to pass
Republican priorities with the Republican majority that voters gave, Democrats
want a meeting. We got this message from Hakim Jefferies
and Chuck Schumer. They want to negotiate with President Trump
directly anytime anywhere. We think President Trump has probably got
a good sense of what Republicans need to do to

(17:45):
get out of this mess. And we'll be chatting with
one of the key voices in moments Republicans. South Carolina
Congressman and candidate for governor of South Carolina, Ralph Norman
joins us. Now, so, Ralph, let's start with this letter
from Chuck Schumer and Hakim Jefferies to President Trump. They
say they on a meeting anytime anywhere. Should President Trump
indulge this meeting and sit down with the Democrat.

Speaker 4 (18:05):
Leadership, Absolutely not.

Speaker 11 (18:07):
They got one choice signed the c R and let's
put let's open up the government back up, or let's
just stay shut down.

Speaker 4 (18:14):
It's that simple.

Speaker 11 (18:15):
Matt their requests to extend the subsidies make no sense,
and I think it's it's pretty clear really.

Speaker 2 (18:24):
So, Ralph, there's talk of a potential deal where the
Senate would pass the House Continuing Resolution, but then there
would be commitments to pass a series of mini bus
appropriation bills to fund the government going forward. Those would
be negotiated with Democrats. Have you heard about any of
the elements of that deal.

Speaker 4 (18:42):
Yes.

Speaker 11 (18:43):
What I've heard, Matt is that they wanted to if
they signed the c R, they wanted to put restrictions
on extended the Obama subsidies and making a minibus at
the end of the year around Christmas.

Speaker 6 (18:53):
That's the oldest trick in the.

Speaker 11 (18:54):
Book, is you know, it's just another way to fund
the illegals and fund their Christmas tree on ornaments. Set
going to cost the taxpayers one point five to three
and it's not going to happen.

Speaker 2 (19:07):
You've been one of the most consistent voices in Congress
for less spending. What is the position right now that
fiscal hawks are taking relative to the year end.

Speaker 1 (19:17):
Is there the hope for a year.

Speaker 2 (19:19):
Long continuing resolution or is this just a bill to
open the government through the holidays.

Speaker 11 (19:24):
Well, I think it's probably a combination of both. There
are people suffering Matt as you know with the Whig program,
women and children not getting paid with snap benefits, not
being paid, law enforcement, all of the above. But the
thing that makes the most sense, and we've run out.
We've got the date of November twenty first to try
to pass or remain in appropriation bills. That's not going

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to happen in that timeframe. So the talk I hear
among Republicans is extend the date into January February and
then work on the top line items and see if
we can get them pass. The Democrats are simply they're
ludicrous on what they're doing, and it's total anarchy at best.

Speaker 2 (20:06):
President Trump called on Republicans to use the nuclear option
to pass the Continuing Resolution with only Republican votes that
would abolish the filibuster. In this context, should Republican senators
do as the President's asked.

Speaker 11 (20:21):
You know, with what they're doing mad all across the country,
with what they have done with PROMP fifty, Yeah, I
think it probably should be used.

Speaker 6 (20:30):
They're going to do it if.

Speaker 11 (20:31):
And when they get back in power. Anyway, they know,
no bounds, and so I think it's probably the time
has come. I probably wouldn't have said that had the
Democrat Party been a different party. But they're ruthless, they're socialistic,
and they'll do anything, and this is just one of
the two that we.

Speaker 5 (20:49):
Ought to use.

Speaker 2 (20:52):
You are running for governor of South Carolina in twenty
twenty six. We've heard a number of high profile candidates
in these midterm elections talk about the need to focus
on affordability. Do you agree with that assessment and how
will you work an affordability message into your campaign for governor.

Speaker 11 (21:09):
Well, affordability of housing is what I hear the most about,
and that's what our company did for many years. We've
got to it's pretty simple, Matt. We're spending more than
we make. Government has grown for the last ten years.
The infrastructure, the education in South Carolina is abysmal. It's
falling apart. We've got to reprioritize. We've got to have

(21:30):
a Doze commission. It's going to explain to the South
Carolinians where every dollar is and cut taxes, but yes,
cut spending. We don't have an income problem, We've got
a spending problem, as many states do. But affordability will
come with getting our balance sheet in order and sticking
to it.

Speaker 2 (21:50):
Mike Johnson has been holding a number of press conferences
as how speaker, saying that Democrats are losing on the polling,
that the American people don't support this shutdown. Democrats are
now crowing that they swept the elections last night. What's
your reaction to the election results should be?

Speaker 11 (22:08):
The election results last night ought to be a wake
up call to every American. You know, you and I
both served with span Berger, we served with Mickey. They're
socialist and you know they supported the insane Biden administration
from day one. So it's a wake up call. They

(22:28):
know no means the Prop fifty is another problem. But
we've got to take seriously.

Speaker 6 (22:33):
It's time.

Speaker 11 (22:34):
It's a wake up call and we Conservatives are gonna
have to be recruited, and we've got to take seriously
every election at every level.

Speaker 2 (22:41):
To be honest with you, Yeah, I wanted to get
to Prop fifty next This could mean five fewer Republicans
in the United States House of Representatives. What message would
you give to red states that could potentially redistrict and
enhance the Republican majority.

Speaker 11 (22:58):
Here's what's disturbing about what fifty does in California. One,
they had twenty nine percent of the vote, over six
million votes that came into mail, and you can imagine
what the where they came from. And secondly, they've abolished
the commission that I think was set up by Arnold
Sarsen Nick Jagob when he was he was governor that

(23:19):
had a fair process. The Democrats with Newsom are going
back to thold political ways. They spent over George Sore
spent ten million dollars and it's a total two hundred
and twenty million spent as opposed to about nine million
spent opposing Prop fifty. So it's all our war, Matt.

(23:39):
We've got to take it like that. South Carolina has
got District six with Jim Clyburn. The first thing I'm
doing on my desk is redistricting the district six, which
if you look at it, look at the lines, you
have to be a surveyor and a mystic in a
psyche to figure out what what priest think to go
vote to. So it's the time has come. North Carolina

(24:02):
and other states I think have done it. But we
cannot let the Democrats hijack our election process like their
hijacking the American people on the shutdown.

Speaker 2 (24:15):
Congressman Ralph Norman putting Jim Cliburn on notice. If Norman
becomes governor, Cliburn is not going to have that cozy
Jerrymander district that he has held onto for so many decades.

Speaker 1 (24:26):
Congressman Norman, thanks for joining us.

Speaker 2 (24:28):
Stay safe on the trail, and we hope you guys
are able to find a way out of this that
doesn't just completely grift the taxpayer.

Speaker 1 (24:34):
I appreciate you being here.

Speaker 4 (24:35):
Thank you.

Speaker 11 (24:36):
Matt, appreciate it.

Speaker 1 (24:39):
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (24:40):
And coming up, Katie Zachariah will bring us deeper into
this decision by California to wipe five Republican districts off
the map. What will it mean for national Republicans and
is there any response coming to be a counterbalance to
what we see from Gavin Newsom.

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California, What is wrong with you? If you went to
sleep early on the East Coast, you may have missed that.
In California, Gavin Newsom's ballot proposition Proposition fifty, to essentially
wipe five Republican congressional districts off the map, passed, and
it didn't just passed. It had an almost two to
one margin over those who showed up to vote against

(27:36):
the measure. This has Newsome crowing, It has Republicans in
Congress worried. And this move by Newsom was undeniably done
to launch his presidential aspirations. But the result over the
next two years could be a speaker Hakem. Jefferies could
be an AOC leading the Oversight Committee. This is not
something we want to see in the United States Congress.

(27:58):
It's something caused by the left wing lunatics in California.
Gavin Newsom sounds like a man on a national campaign.

Speaker 1 (28:05):
Take a listen.

Speaker 12 (28:07):
We stood tall and we stood firm in response to
Donald Trump's recklessness. Donald Trump's efforts to rig the midterm
election continue to this day. Donald Trump called up the
Border Patrol, sent them to Dodger Stadium and through a
fastball at free speech, right at the head free expression,

(28:32):
to suppress the vote people waiting up three hours to
cast their vote, to send a message to Donald Trump.
No crowns, no thrones, no kings. That's what this victory represents.
We need the state of Virginia. We need the state
of Maryland. We need our friends in New York and

(28:54):
Illinois and Colorado. We need to see other states meet
this moment head on as well to recognize what we're
up against. In twenty twenty six, we can defacto end
Donald Trump's presidency as we know it.

Speaker 2 (29:09):
Katie Zachariah is the general counsel for Fixed California and
she joins us. Now, Katie in California, it seemed like
the bottom just fell out. Is this the launch of
Gavin Newsom's presidential campaign?

Speaker 13 (29:21):
We know Gavin Newsom launched his presidential campaign months ago,
or maybe even years ago, Matt, Prop fifty was doomed
to fail. For Republicans, we don't have a The registered
amount of registered voters is pretty low for conservatives.

Speaker 12 (29:38):
However, if you look, Matt.

Speaker 13 (29:40):
At what happened, six million, over six million Republicans turned
out to vote for President Trump in California in twenty
twenty four, and about two point eight million turned out
on Prop fifty to vote no. So we see a
huge mark of Republicans not showing up. If they had
showed up, if every single Republican who had showed up

(30:01):
to vote for President Trump showed up to vote No.
One to fifty, we would have wiped Gavin Newsom's Prop
fifty out.

Speaker 2 (30:07):
Matt, does that mean that Californians just aren't angry enough
that it just isn't enough that your border was left open?
Your state is more than ten billion dollars in debt,
You had to endure lockdowns and fire hydrants that didn't work.
But at the end of the day, people are just
chill as long as the surf's up.

Speaker 13 (30:27):
Well, what's motivating voters right now? As we saw with Zororn,
as we saw with spam Berger, as we saw across
the board, Mikey Cheryl is there is this sentiment among
Democrats that the Trump rangement syndrome is so strong, in fact,
so much stronger among Democrats than the motivation for Republicans
to get out and vote. Is that those that are
turning out to vote for Prop fifty even though they

(30:50):
don't really know what it's about, even though they most
of them have preferred the Independent Redistricting Commission that Prop
fifty up ends out of spite for Donald trum and
how they campaigned the entire Prop fifty. They are voting
yes on Prop fifty because they hate Donald Trump so much.

Speaker 1 (31:07):
Matt Well, is this the end of it?

Speaker 2 (31:11):
Or is there still a litigation path to stop the
stealing of these congressional districts?

Speaker 13 (31:17):
Well, what's look at what it's looking like. The President
yesterday truthed out and his Press secretary Caroline Lovitt talked
about the illegal immigrants, illegal aliens that are voting in
the elections, that a lot of these mail in ballots
were sent to them. There's also a lot of I
think Dylan Law Group has filed a lawsuit. We've given
a support of brief discussing all the irregularities and all

(31:38):
of the problems that we've seen with Prop fifty, and
Carl Demio ahead of Prop fifties launch, filed a lawsuit
and basically showed that an outline that it's in violations
of three sections of our state constitution and federal constitutional laws. So, Matt,
there's a path forward if one wants to pursue it.

(31:59):
I think it is being pursued, and we could tie
up Prop fifty in litigation to the point where maybe
Gavin Newsom does not get his way. But I also
don't think even if he is successful, even if Prop
fifty is successful, the Republicans around the country are doing
exactly what they should be doing and should have been
doing all along, which is proper jerrymandering, proper redrawing of districts.

(32:20):
In addition to that, the Supreme Court will hear Louisiana v.
Calais next year, as Justice Thomas has said, and they'll
probably make a decision on that in twenty twenty six,
ahead of the midterms, and that will be a decisive victory,
hopefully in the Supreme Court on the Voting Rights Act,
particularly on Section two.

Speaker 2 (32:39):
Matt, so Prop fifty passed because not enough Republicans took
the warning that you and many others associated with fixed
California have been putting out, and so now like issue
the warning to the rest of the country, like this
is happening in California and we have red states that
are sitting on their hands, that aren't squeezing every possible

(33:01):
Republican congressional seat out of their populations. What would you
say to the Republican legislatures in Middle America and in
the South, who we're just choosing to not respond to
what Gavin Newsom has done.

Speaker 13 (33:15):
Most of the pundits and political commentators have been saying,
Matt that the reason we've lost Virginia, New Jersey and
New York is because President Trump wasn't on the ballot.
This is what I have to say to America in
twenty twenty six. President Trump's name might not be on
the ballot, However, his name is ostensibly on the ballot

(33:35):
because guess what if we lose the House, Matt in
twenty six, it will be the end of the effective
presidency because they will the Republican the Democrats in Congress
will tie up President Trump after impeachment in query hoax
hoax hoax out one after the next and if a
King Jeffreys and the AOC's of the House get their way,

(33:56):
you know darn well that's exactly what they're going to do.
So if this did not prove to Republicans across the country,
those that can redistrict and redraw lines, you have got
to get motivated to do it. For twenty six we
do not have a choice. We have to have a
full four years of President Trump.

Speaker 1 (34:16):
That's exactly right.

Speaker 2 (34:18):
If you don't do it, you get Gavin Newsom, and
you get Gavin newsom Ism, and you get the worst
features of the United States Congress represented in the leadership
of that institution.

Speaker 1 (34:28):
Katie Zachariah, thank.

Speaker 2 (34:29):
You for all you do for California and conservatives all
around the country. We appreciate you working with Fixed California
and hope.

Speaker 1 (34:36):
That you'll be back with us soon.

Speaker 13 (34:37):
Thank you so much, Matt.

Speaker 2 (34:41):
And coming up, we'll head to the Commonwealth of Virginia,
where Democrats are again celebrating victory. Now, is this some
monumental shift in the tectonic plates of our politics or
is it just Virginia being Virginia offering their typical historical rebuttal.
We'll talk about it next, don't go anywhere.

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Speaker 2 (37:08):
Today, the Commonwealth of Virginia saw Congresswoman Abigail Spamburger, Democrat,
win the governorship in that state. And as there are
many looking at Zoron Mamdani and wondering is he the
new face of the Democratic Party, there are activists on

(37:30):
the left who see that that is a shrinking coalition
and indeed, if there's any hope for Democrats to be
a national political party, they have to have candidates and
figures who appeal to the center.

Speaker 1 (37:41):
Enter Abigail Spamburger.

Speaker 2 (37:43):
They believe that her pragmatic talk is something that can
appeal to voters nationally, as it did in a state
that often reflects some of the sentiments of suburban America.
Here was Congresswoman Spamburger, Governor elect Spamberger now is victory speech.

Speaker 14 (37:58):
And tonight, as the governor elect, I call on Congress,
Republicans and Democrats and our president to make real progress
on bringing this shutdown to an end. And to those
across the Potomac who are attacking our jobs and our economy,
I will not stand by silently while you attack Virginia's workers.

Speaker 2 (38:21):
There will be those who say that Virginia is a
flip for Democrats. Indeed, Glenny Youngkin holds the governor's mansion. Now, However,
if you look at history, Virginia is a state that
holds these off yr elections and often utilizes them as
a rebuttal to whichever way the national election went.

Speaker 1 (38:39):
In twelve of the last.

Speaker 2 (38:41):
Thirteen governor's elections in Virginia, they've simply gone the opposite
direction of whoever holds the White House at that time.
I think the one example was a victory by Terry
mccaliffe when Barack Obama was President of the United States.
So again, don't be a pannikin, but we do want
to dig deeper into Virginia and see how some of
these suburban districts went overwhelmingly for Spamberger when President Trump

(39:03):
was a bit more competitive there. Jesse Blakely is the
state director of the Family Foundation Action Group in Virginia.
She joins me, Now, so what happened, Jesse in the Commonwealth?
How did we get this win from Spamberger?

Speaker 15 (39:19):
Yeah, so I would say, really the loss of this
election happened in about a year ago, honestly, November twenty
twenty four, when Governor Younkin decided to clear the primary
field for whin some Seers against the better recommendations of
many people behind the scenes.

Speaker 1 (39:38):
What do you think were the flaws of the Sears campaign?

Speaker 15 (39:42):
Well, so, one of the issues with Sears as a
candidate is something that really tracks all the way back
to twenty twenty one. So in twenty twenty one, Younkin
sidelined her for part of his campaign because quite frankly,
she was responsible for a lot of the gaffs that
we've seen on this campaign, and so that's something that
was predictable. Since then, her office as Lieutenant governor went

(40:04):
through staff on a pretty regular basis. So behind the scenes,
you know this was known that she probably didn't have
what it takes to lead a ticket, and we saw
her underperform every other statewide candidate, and that was something
that people were throwing up warning flags about in the background. Unfortunately,
the governor didn't want to hear it, wanted to clear

(40:25):
the primary field, and so as a result, we have
a candidate who wasn't tested in a primary, who quite frankly,
a lot of folks in the base believed didn't represent
the MAGA movement, the direction the party was going in,
and so the enthusiasm wasn't there for her.

Speaker 1 (40:42):
You make a really good point about primaries, and there
are some who say, you know, when you.

Speaker 2 (40:47):
Avoid primaries, you're able to save resources, you're able to
avoid attacks on your ultimate nominee.

Speaker 1 (40:53):
But I actually think you're right.

Speaker 2 (40:54):
I think that competitive primaries bring out the best in
our ultimate winners. And if you have someone in bubble
wrap throughout the primary, then inevitably you're going to get
gaffes and other negative circumstances on the campaign trail in
the general election. So maybe there's a lesson in that
for Republicans nationwide, but in Virginia specifically, I want to

(41:15):
think about that Youngkin coalition. Do you think it could
be reconstituted where you get folks from the rural areas
voting reliably Republican, but also in suburbia, in the Hampton
Roads areas and in northern Virginia a willingness to change
over and support someone that maybe folks hadn't supported previously.

Speaker 15 (41:35):
Yeah, I will say that the Young and coalition that
existed in twenty twenty one is still there. But our
base shows up for us when we show up for them.
They showed up last year. In twenty twenty four, Trump
actually had the margin by which you lost Virginia. So
even though it was still a loss, it was half
of what the loss was in twenty twenty. And that's
a result of a lot of those same dynamics that
you talked about. The rural areas that are very reliably

(41:58):
read that are Trump country showed up in force. But
even in Loudon County last year, we had a Commonwealth's
Attorney flip for a Republican And so we did have
folks in blue northern Virginia show up and join the
coalition under the Trump campaign last year, which was fantastic.

Speaker 1 (42:14):
What we didn't see this.

Speaker 15 (42:16):
Year was a doubling down on that coalition. We saw
a candidate that quite frankly, didn't have a message to
run on. She was running on it's my turn, and
so was Abigail Spanberger for that matter. Both of them
didn't face primaries from their parties. Both of them had
the field cleared and sort of showed up and said
it's my turn. This really was Republican's year to lose,

(42:36):
and even with the headwinds of the Trump administration, Virginia's
usually countercyclical, So even with those headwinds, I think there
was a pathway to at least perform quite a lot
better than we did, if not to win the race.
But we just didn't have a candidate with a message
that fired up the coalition. I mean, she got the
least votes of any statewide candidate.

Speaker 1 (42:59):
Let's talk about what you're preparing for now.

Speaker 2 (43:01):
Abigail Spamberger would like to present herself as.

Speaker 1 (43:04):
The non zoron mom Donnie version of.

Speaker 2 (43:07):
The Democratic Party, someone who's pragmatic, who served in the military.
But glennae Unkin did do a lot by executive order
that really changed quality of life for the better in Virginia.
What do you think she's going to undo from the
Young Cain agenda on day one.

Speaker 15 (43:24):
Yeah, I think we can expect to see a lot
of the governor's executive orders overturned on day one. But
the Democrats are also pushing to redistrict Virginia, so they
held a special session less than a week before election
day to start the process of amending Virginia's constitution to
change the way that we draw our lines so that
hopefully they can redistrict Virginia, or at least, according to them,

(43:45):
hopefully they can redistrict Virginia ahead of the twenty twenty
six midterms. So that's something that a lot of people
haven't even heard about yet because it happened in the
last days of the campaign. But I'm sure that as
soon as we see Governor elect span and our new
members of the House of Delegates take their oath of
office in January, they're going to have a bill ready

(44:07):
to forward that constitutional amendment. So this is some radical
change that we're going to see right off the bat.
They've already signaled that they're ready to do this, and
quite frankly, the losses in our House, even with win
some running down as far as she did, and dragging
a lot of good people down with her. The leadership
in our House of Delegates, Terry Kilgore, who was our

(44:29):
minority leader, really deserves some of the blame for last
night too, because about two to five of the seats
that we lost didn't have to be lost. And what
that means is we have a lot less voice on
committees and subcommittees in the House of Delegates to oppose
these radical changes when they happen.

Speaker 2 (44:45):
Wow, Jesse Blakely with a stark warning and some honest
talk from the Commonwealth of Virginia. Thanks for joining the
program and sharing your insights from the ground.

Speaker 15 (44:54):
Thank you so much for having me.

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New Yorker can expect following the election of Zar Mam
Donnie as mayor. And we'll check in on New Jersey
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of President Trump or even prior versions of Chitarelli.

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Speaker 6 (48:23):
Ever.

Speaker 16 (48:29):
Just look at the result of yesterday's election in New York,
where their party installed a Communists as the mayor of
the largest city in the nation. As I've worn for
many years, our opponents are held bent and turning America
into a communist Cuba or socialist.

Speaker 3 (48:46):
Done as well, and you see what happened to those places.

Speaker 2 (48:51):
Zoran Mamdani is the mayor elect of New York. President
Trump seemed to take notice as a former New Yorker
who's made his way to Florida. Here there are a
million peopeople who may be evacuating the Empire State in
search of a place where success isn't hunted and people
aren't judged by the color of their skin. You'd think that,
Mam Donnie, but use this opportunity to reach out to
other New Yorkers who have trepidation about his potential leadership,

(49:14):
but he doubled down on bitterness and meanness and anti
trump Ism.

Speaker 1 (49:18):
It was quite ugly to a listen.

Speaker 17 (49:20):
If anyone can show a nation betrayed by Donald Trump
how to defeat him, it is the city that.

Speaker 4 (49:26):
Gave rise to him.

Speaker 17 (49:28):
And if there is any way to terrify a despot,
it is by dismantling the very conditions that allowed him
to accumulate power.

Speaker 4 (49:36):
We will hold bad landlords.

Speaker 17 (49:38):
To account because the Donald Trumps.

Speaker 4 (49:41):
Of our city have grown far too.

Speaker 17 (49:43):
Comfortable taking advantage of their tenants.

Speaker 4 (49:46):
New York will remain.

Speaker 17 (49:47):
A city of immigrants, a city built by immigrants, and
as of tonight, led by an immigrant.

Speaker 2 (50:00):
It was a successful invasion. It appears in New York
becoming a sanctuary city meant that there was a large,
diverse voting population there from Mam Donni that likely didn't
face the most rigorous review of whether or not they
were voting legally or in the United States legally. It
is a place that has allowed chaos, and it is
more chaos that they will sow. And we see this

(50:21):
trend of democrats socialists getting elected possibly spreading to other
places around the country. It could be the front end
of the wave, which could spell trouble for Democrats who
were still trying to build a nationwide coalition. Mam Donnie
was running a campaign rooted in some degree of economic populism,
and that's why I called it. Check out this tweet

(50:43):
from several days ago where I predicted that Mam Donnie
would get over fifty percent of the vote. Indeed he did,
and that means that all the talk about coalition building
against him was for not. The conditions had already been
set in New York following the mayorship of Deblasio, the
failed time of Eric Adams, and now we'll all see
what comes next. So Mikey Cheryl won her election in

(51:05):
New Jersey as well, right across the river. That was
one where Republicans had been hopeful based on a prior
just respectable performance by Jack Chiarelli. But they were running
him for the third time. He got beat by this
lady who will now be New Jersey's governor.

Speaker 18 (51:19):
But man, with this vote, you guys just screamed from
the rooftop here in New Jersey, we know that this
nation has not ever been, nor will it ever be,
ruled by Kings and as the President is backing away
from this ideal cutting snap, ripping away healthcare.

Speaker 13 (51:38):
Terminating Gayway, we here in New Jersey are bound to
fight for a different future for our children.

Speaker 1 (51:46):
Joining us now.

Speaker 2 (51:47):
Political strategist and host of media exposed on Real America's Voice,
Adam Weiss, So, Adam, let's start with New York. Zoron
got over fifty All of this discussion about an anti
Zoron coalition that could l was nascent.

Speaker 1 (52:01):
He made it to a majority of the vote.

Speaker 2 (52:03):
What does it say about where the metropolitan iconic capital
of capitalism itself is headed?

Speaker 19 (52:10):
Well, Matt all the Day sayers, I know talking heads
to say this is anti Trump. I mean, this is
New York City. I remember twenty four years ago, Congressman
I went to an electure party. I said, I'm going
to go to a GOP election party two thousand and one.
My friend said, no, don't go. Don't go to a Republican.
Go to the Democrat. Mark Green, He's run against Bloomber.

Speaker 6 (52:30):
I said, why.

Speaker 19 (52:31):
He says Republicans never lose, I never win. Giuliani was
a fluke. We went to the Democrat. He said the
party is a more fun with Democrats back then. So
we went to the Democrat election and Bloomberg ended up winning.
That was twenty four years but that's the last time
there was a Republican. Zorn was a brilliant you know campaigner,
brilliant with the gen Z crowd, brilliant you know organizer.

(52:54):
But that's what the DSA do is all they do
for a living is organize, and all they do is
are activists. So they're really good at that stuff. And
that's what we got now. So that's why we have
a mayor on Donnie and and you know, Plomo's old school,
so he couldn't compete with the social media and the fury.
He just jumped in the Democratic primary, thought his name
was going to take him over to victory line and

(53:15):
didn't realize what the Democrat he's actually become this these days.

Speaker 2 (53:21):
Do you think Zorn moderates now that he's won the election,
or is he really going to try to make New
York the center of American socialism.

Speaker 19 (53:31):
I was hopeful, and you know, all the criticism was
getting I didn't think it was that fair because he
did walk around with a smile. He was taking a
lot of incoming fire from all sorts of Jewish activists,
mag activist, Dems, activists, Republicans, and they were just really
hitting him hard. And I said, the guy was he's
a young activist, Yay, he says some stupid things. He's

(53:52):
with say, let's give him a chance. But last night
that can you know, the victory speech was turned from
happy warriors, smiley warrior to a mean, bitter guy who
went on the attack defter Trump. He didn't reach out
to the Jewish community, he didn't reach out to conservatives,
he didn't reach out to Republicans. And you combine all
the other you know, the Cuomo and Sliva, they got

(54:14):
practically fifty percent. If you're going to be the mayor,
be the mayor for the whole city, reach out to them.

Speaker 12 (54:19):
You won.

Speaker 19 (54:20):
Glombo gave a nice speech, he told people in the audience,
and it is at his concessions speech. Quiet, let's congratulate him,
Let's offer our help. That's the way you do it
in politics. The problem with this DSA and these new
generation liberals, Matt, you know that they are vicious. You
can't even have a drink with them.

Speaker 5 (54:38):
At the end of the day.

Speaker 19 (54:39):
When I grew up, we were able to fight it out.

Speaker 2 (54:44):
Yeah, I'm not sure that Zorn's going to be able
to do this utopia. I think there's going to be
substantial resistance, even from Democrats who are tied to a
lot of the entrenched interests in New York that make
the city run for better or worse. But I also
want to get your take on neighboring New Jersey. Now,
this is the one place where we did see the
Republican underperform President Trump's outstanding victory in twenty twenty four.

(55:10):
To me, Jack CHADRELLI just looked like a guy who
people had voted against twice before, and it was hard
to believe that in his third run for the governorship
he was going to grow the coalition. What do you
make of the outcome of New Jersey?

Speaker 19 (55:23):
When he did really well last time against governor the
governor it was one year into COVID and this governor
was pushing lockdowns, pushing masks, so people were pissed off,
so they didn't think he did really well. It was
unexpected this time around. He did get an endorsement for Trump,
but it was a zoom call, right, You know, if
you're going to really perform well, in Jersey, you got

(55:45):
to bring in the big guy. Let's say, I mean trying.
Remember Trump had a rally there with the Hindu community,
Indian community, and he bought one hundred thousand people I
think out that were so excited to see that. He
should have bought Trump in because Trump came close to
Kamal maybe it was five or six point and that's
really close intow Jersey and Jack just sat back and
on an off year, you need you need to really

(56:08):
rally the independence, the Conservatives or Republicans at any shot,
because you know, at the end of the day, Jersey
is a blue state, and he underperformed. He didn't really
bring in Trumpet. Like I said, the inner cities came
out big, so that's you know, that's pretty much to
call on. I don't And he didn't hit hard enough
that this woman was take it right out, became a millionaire,

(56:30):
she became a multi millionaire or stop treat and he
didn't hit her hard enough because I think he was
afraid to be called anti woman.

Speaker 1 (56:39):
In Jersey.

Speaker 2 (56:40):
I think you can hit pretty hard in the politics,
and I think you're right they should have brought Trump
into Jersey.

Speaker 1 (56:47):
But let me give the.

Speaker 2 (56:48):
Republicans in Jersey some advice, get Jack should a rally out,
like is the third defeat.

Speaker 1 (56:54):
Enough for you guys to be able to move on
this guy.

Speaker 2 (56:57):
Even when people were as angry as they could possibly
be at the Democrats in Phil Murphy following the lockdowns
you just described, they still didn't go out and elect
Jack Chitarelli. So here's why call to New Jersey Republicans
nominate Alena Habba in four years. Alena Habba is an energetic, attractive,
successful US attorney there. She's tough on criminals, and I

(57:21):
think would be an outstanding candidate for statewide office in
New Jersey.

Speaker 1 (57:25):
But give us somebody more dynamic, like Alena Hobba. Are
you in? Are you in? Adam Weis? You think that'd
be a creative option, I'll give you the last word.

Speaker 5 (57:32):
It's a great creative option.

Speaker 19 (57:33):
You know, when I go down to South Florida, from
Palm Beach to Miami, they have young Republicans, they have
energetic people, they have crowds different you know, one hundred group,
the Maga group, this group all New York City's dead.
And these billionaires, these rich elite businesses, they come out,
you know, when they come out three weeks before the
election and all of a sudden they become political. That's
why we get a mayor of zon donnise. The business

(57:56):
elites aren't involved in politics like other states, other Midwest
states and other world Here the week.

Speaker 2 (58:04):
They're all coming to Florida, Adam, they're following you. They're
they're coming to Florida. And here's my message to all
the New Yorkers who now want to leave because you've
got Mayor zoron. You're welcome in the Sunshine State, but
leave your Democrat voter registration north of the Mason Dixon line.

Speaker 1 (58:19):
Adam Weys, thanks for coming on and chopping up with me.

Speaker 11 (58:21):
My friend, Thank you, thank you.

Speaker 2 (58:26):
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