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Speaker 1 (00:00):
We are on assignment in San Salvador, El Salvador. We're
in neighboring Honduras. There is an election that is going
to happen in a few weeks. Two contestants and that
election will be with us, and they're concerned that it
might look a lot more like Venezuela than what we
want to see in the Americas. Plus, Arizona Congressman Andy
Biggs is with us. He'll bring us up to speed
on the latest efforts to end the government shutdown, and
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we'll talk about where we go from here, both politically
and in terms of the real world impacts for everyday Americans.
Sean Ryan joins us to debate whether or not it's
a good idea to have so many Chinese students in
US universities, and even the Olympics is getting a little
based in the Golden Age. No more transgendered athletes in
several of their female events. All that and more Tonight
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on The Mat Gates Show, Let's do.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
This shaking up Washington, d C.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
We're breaking the fever.
Speaker 4 (00:50):
Do you haven't watch this guy on television.
Speaker 5 (00:52):
It's like a machine. He's great.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
Matt Gates, as we join you, this evening, lawmakers are
rushing back to Washington, d C. In the House of
Representatives to vote on the legislation passed.
Speaker 6 (01:07):
By the Senate to end the shutdown.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
Doesn't appear there will be any amendments or changes to
those bills, and they're likely headed to President Trump's desk.
But that doesn't mean that the impacts of this poor
decision to shut down the government will automatically be ameliorated.
We have seen time and again how stops in research,
stops in air traffic control the logistics that keep America working.
Speaker 6 (01:31):
It doesn't just reignite on a dime.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
White House Press Secretary Caroline Levitt was explaining this today.
Speaker 7 (01:37):
It feels like Groundhog Day being up here again talking
about this Democrat shutdown tonight. Thanks to Republicans, the White
House is very hopeful that this shutdown is going to
come to an end. The damage caused by the Democrats
with this reckless government shutdown cannot be forgotten. It is
entirely the fault of the Democrat Party. Just look at
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the vote count. Undreds of thousands of federal employees have
missed their paychecks. Tens of billions in wages and benefits
were withheld impacting vulnerable families. Millions of low income Americans
missed their snap benefits. Nearly twenty thousand flights at airports
across the country were delayed. The Democrats shutdown could end
up decreasing fourth quarter economic growth by two whole percentage points.
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Why have the Democrats put the American people through this
pain for forty three days in a row. And the
answer to that question is pure partisan politics. President Trump
looks forward to being to finally ending this devastating Democrats
shutdown with his signature, and we hope that signing will
take place later tonight.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
President Trump doesn't like shutdowns. He wants to keep the
country moving on his agenda. He views every day as
something that's burning off, and he wants to accomplish as
much as possible. These shutdowns obviously handcuffed the administration in
a number of key areas, including economic growth.
Speaker 6 (03:00):
You see, the.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
Shutdown happened because Chuck Schumer didn't want to look like
such a whimp, and the shutdown ended because eight Democrats
in the Senate broke ranks with Chuck Schumer. They didn't
want to follow him down the path of silliness and
more destruction to the American people. So House Democrats now
have a real issue before them. Are they going to
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be united as they were in opposition to the original
continuing resolution or will you see a substantial number of
House Democrats do what Senate Democrats did and choose logic
and reason over just the normal mud slinging of Washington. Well,
the House Democrat leader Hawking Jeffries wanted to show unity.
He rallied Democrats with an insane speech on the Capitol
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tick Listen.
Speaker 8 (03:44):
House Democrats will continue the fight to address the Republican
healthcare crisis.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
Today.
Speaker 8 (03:49):
House Democrats will introduce legislation to extend the Affordable Care
Act tax credits for three years. This fight is not
over with just getting.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
So you know that Jeffries loses in this shutdown because
he's having to give this speech in the first place.
And by the way, why did the shutdown even occur?
Ostensibly on policy grounds? Because they wanted these Obamacare extension concessions,
and Republicans indicated that they were working on guardrails, they
were working on ensuring there was some fraud or over
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utilization of Obamacare.
Speaker 6 (04:25):
We certainly don't want.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
Every illegal alien on Obamacare.
Speaker 6 (04:29):
And then you're seeing the services for.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
The American people diminished because you have to wait in
longer lines.
Speaker 6 (04:34):
Systems get overrun, and then they.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
Become less effective for those who they were created to
care for. And those are important fellow Americans of ours,
The disabled, the impoverished, seniors, folks absolutely deserve government assistants
to be there for them when they have earned those entitlements.
Speaker 6 (04:52):
And it's often the new.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
Arrivals who were soaking up the most of them without
earning them. But see the shutdown ends with Democrats getting
that concession, without Democrats just having a blank check for
states that are over and rolling their people onto Medicaid.
Speaker 6 (05:08):
And that is a good thing and it's.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
Probably why House Speaker Mike Johnson is confident that he'll
have the votes time.
Speaker 9 (05:15):
We believe the long national nightmare will be over tonight.
It was completely and utterly foolish and pointless in the end,
As we said all along, we're very optimistic about the
vote tally tonight. We think this is going to happen,
and we're sorry that it took this long. So Republicans
are going to deliver for the people. We're ready to
get back to our legislative agenda. We have a very
aggressive calendar for the remainder of this year. There'll be
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some long days and nights here, some long working weeks,
but we will get this thing back on tracks.
Speaker 6 (05:44):
So that's the good part.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
But remember how the Senate has changed the legislation that
came over from the House. And the legislation that came
over from the House was hardly some like conservative outstanding paradise.
It was the spending levels that were approved by Joe.
So what the Senate puts on that allows snap benefits
to be extended for an entire year, It allows the
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legislative branch to continue to get funding for an entire
fiscal year.
Speaker 6 (06:12):
But our troops, our ice, our border.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
Patrol, they only get security and certainty through the end
of January. I had a friend of former constituent reach
out to me and say, why do members of Congress
and the Senate still get paid during shutdowns? And I
of course elected not to get my paycheck during shutdowns,
and many others have done the same thing and deserve
great credit for that. But members of Congress, not only
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you know, we're not willing to en mass at scale
not take pay, they literally secured their own pay and
the pay of their own staff longer then they secure
pay for our troops.
Speaker 6 (06:53):
Think about how hypocritical.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
That is if you just said to average folks on
the street, Okay, there are really complicated questions about how
to fund the government. What are some of the things
that we should definitely pay for with the greatest degree
of stability and security. Funding the staff of lawmakers and
funding the salaries of lawmakers would not make that cut,
but it did in what the Senate passed, and that
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showcases you a lot about how Washington works and how
broken it is. Joining us now, Arizona Congressman and Republican
candidate for governor of Arizona, Andy Biggs, Conressman, Thanks for
joining me. Is Speaker Johnson going to have the votes
tonight to pass the Senate bill?
Speaker 3 (07:32):
He is? He's gonna have it with maybe one despair.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
Matt And do you think that will get out of
this shutdown cycle or do you believe that now with
Democrats having secured funding for their own staff and their
own salaries and snap beneficiaries for an entire year, will
they try to shut down ice and border patrol and
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the military things that Republicans care about.
Speaker 6 (07:59):
In January well, they sure could.
Speaker 10 (08:02):
And I've actually been advocating that that we need to
actually get the do D, Department of Defense, and the
Department of Homeland Security full year spending bills.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
Completed before Christmas.
Speaker 10 (08:17):
If we can get those completed before Christmas, then the
pressure or pain points or the leverage points that the
Democrats might be willing to exercise through another shutdown get smaller.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
It becomes weaker.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
Do you think there is a single Department of Homeland
Security funding bill that can pass the United States Senate?
Speaker 10 (08:43):
No, No, I don't, But it becomes an interesting thing.
Speaker 11 (08:49):
Now.
Speaker 10 (08:49):
Having said that, it becomes an interesting thing because the Democrats,
then the shoe goes on the other foot. But I
think that's the problem, and that that's why, quite frankly,
in my opinion.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
You need to eliminate the sixty vote culture rule.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
Yeah, and that's really where I'm kind of going with this.
If what you're saying is Democrats, through bipartisanship, were able
to fund snap and their own salaries and their legislative salaries,
well the partisan things are going to bring us back
to this moment. And I think you and I both
see what's going on in the Department of Homeland Security
now is very effective. I think your Democrat colleagues are
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going to try to dismantle that. Can you give my
viewers a sense of what some of the demands will
be from House and Senate Democrats to get a funding
bill done for those who are securing our border and
enforcing our immigration laws in the country.
Speaker 10 (09:45):
Well, they're going to start right there and say, you
can't deport people unless they have a secondary criminal offense.
In other words, you can't deport somebody who's here simply
for illegally being here, which by the way, is a
criminal offense, but you're going to have to have something
like a dui, a theft, an assault, a murder, or
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something like that. So they're going to try to preserve
and keep people in. The second thing is they're going
to try to block anything dealing with ID for identification,
for voting rights and those types of things. They will
step on anything that will slow down border security and
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will slow down the removal of illegal aliens.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
From the country, And so that's where they're going to
go first.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
Met I presume that you would be for eliminating these
COVID era Obamacare subsidies altogether.
Speaker 6 (10:46):
But there will be some sort.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
Of bipartisan coalition to try to save them in some fashion.
What do you think that will look like? What are
you watching in that debate?
Speaker 10 (10:56):
So what I'm watching is I'm watching about twelve to
fifteen Republicans to see.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
Where they go.
Speaker 10 (11:02):
I don't believe any Republicans going to vote for a
three year extension, which is what jakeem Jeffries wants. And
I also believe that what you're going to have to
see is the Republicans are going to have to come
in and start talking about.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
And basically lead the narrative. We are not leading the narrative.
Speaker 10 (11:21):
On this, Matt, as you know so often we don't
lead the narrative. But the narrative on this is, guess what.
The Affordable Care Act was never affordable and never provided
good healthcare. It was a bust in every way, and
that's why you have to subsidize it, because it's not
affordable unless you subsidize it.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
And so don't be surprised.
Speaker 10 (11:44):
If you see some kind of attempt to say, well,
we're going to grandfather in.
Speaker 3 (11:51):
People who are on the expansion now, but.
Speaker 10 (11:54):
We're not going to allow it to continue on and
The reason is because the estimate is at least twenty
percent of people don't even realize that they are in
the expansion population and are signed on to get benefits
because there's an automatic reauthorization. And so if you start
winnowing it down by eliminating the grandfather or see me
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just grandfathering.
Speaker 3 (12:16):
It and saying that's it, you cap it.
Speaker 10 (12:17):
At that point it looks like there's a potential that
you could actually get votes to do that. The question
is can you get Democrat votes? And the answer is
probably not. Again, so that's why that filibuster rule, the
cloture rule is so important, Matt, because they're not going
to move and budge on that. And that's the fastest
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growing government program is the Medicaid expansion program.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
In the country, and it.
Speaker 10 (12:45):
Also has, by the way, roughly forty to fifty percent
of it is waste and fraud.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
If you are elected governor of Arizona, what waivers will
you seek from the Trump administration so that Arizona can
design its own medicaid program.
Speaker 10 (13:05):
Well, what we're going to do is try to get
a waiver so we could actually expand and increase the
use of hsas for instance, so that they become really
broad and you can use them for virtually any aspect
of it that you want. But we're going to the point,
and the purpose will be ultimately to allow individuals to
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have their choices so that you have transparency. You know
how much something costs, and the cost is limited. So
they're calling most favored nations. So these are technical issues
that people don't understand. But what people will understand is
if you say, we can reduce your cost for medications,
we can reduce your cost for procedures, and we can
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also let you have more freedom in your choice.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
We want to get out and let you have all.
Speaker 10 (13:53):
The freedom you need to be able to make the
choices because the control the C and the acation should
have stood for control, because the federal government is controlling
every aspect of your medical care.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
You will be running likely against Katie Hobbs, the incumbent
Democrat governor of Arizona. And you know, I'm watching what
Washington Democrats are doing with this very muscular shutdown strategy
opposed Trump at all costs. Do you think it will
be harder for Democrats like Katie Hobbs to say, well,
I'm just a pragmatist. I'm just trying to keep the
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trains running on time when National Democrats are throwing all
of these fits.
Speaker 3 (14:36):
Well, here's the deal.
Speaker 10 (14:37):
Katie Hobbs fits right in with a met She's a
hardcore leftist and so she didn't really have a problem
with what they're doing. But for the fact that she
does feel her advisors tell her, I'm sure this is electorally.
Speaker 3 (14:52):
Not great for us.
Speaker 10 (14:54):
But in Arizona, I think people, even in the independent side,
they want government to work and they want to have
control of their own lives, and they don't want these wild,
crazy leftist politics. And by the way, in Arizona, number
one issue is still the border and public safety.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
Number two is affordability.
Speaker 10 (15:16):
And those are neck and neck, and then everything else
drops way back. But those are the two things that
I think affect everybody throughout the.
Speaker 3 (15:24):
Country, but certainly in Arizona we feel it.
Speaker 10 (15:27):
And the things that aren't affordable in Arizona are gas, housing,
and foods a little bit off yet, but medical care.
Those are the four things that are really not affordable
right now in Arizona.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
Is there anything Congress can do on the affordability issue
ahead of these midterm elections if it's weighing so heavily
on voters.
Speaker 10 (15:54):
Yeah, for one thing, they could fix some of the
tax problems. The second thing is you need to really
make sure that you accelerate the opening up of our
energy fields and energy development, because about forty percent of
the increased prices that Americans are paying is because our
energy costs still remain too high.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
And it's coming down slowly but surely. But if you
could take care of that.
Speaker 10 (16:18):
Matt, all of a sudden, everybody will feel much relieved.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
Arizona Congressman Andy Biggs, current leading Republican candidate for governor
of Arizona.
Speaker 6 (16:30):
We wish you well in the vote tonight.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
We want this shutdown to end, but we hope we're
not setting up for a shutdown in January where Democrats
have banged key victories for themselves and we're out there
fighting for the troops and the border patrol, all these
folks who I know you care deeply about. Thanks for
coming on the show and bringing us up to speed.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
Thank you, Matt. It's always great to be with.
Speaker 6 (16:51):
You and coming up.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
President Trump has made recent comments about the value of
Chinese students in US universe, will debate that subject with
Sean Rhyme after.
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A quick break.
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Speaker 6 (19:20):
Does that mean the.
Speaker 13 (19:21):
H one B visa thing will not be a big
priority for your administration? Because if you want to raise
wages for American workers, you can't flood the country with
tens of thousands or hundreds of dolls.
Speaker 4 (19:31):
And we also do have to bring in talent when
we come.
Speaker 6 (19:34):
To talent, and no, you don't.
Speaker 13 (19:36):
We don't have talent in me now.
Speaker 4 (19:38):
You don't have you don't have certain talents, and you
have to people have to learn. Can't just say a
country's coming in, going to invest ten billion dollars to
build a plant and going to take people off an
unemployment line, who haven't worked in five years and they're
going to start making their missiles.
Speaker 14 (19:53):
It doesn't work that well.
Speaker 13 (19:54):
You've said as many as six hundred thousand Chinese students
could come to the United States. Why, sir, is that
a pro maga position when so many American kids want
to go to school and there are places not for them,
and these universities are getting rich off Chinese money.
Speaker 4 (20:09):
Sure, never said about China, but we do have a
lot of people coming in from China.
Speaker 14 (20:14):
We always have.
Speaker 4 (20:15):
If we were to cut that in half, which perhaps
makes some people happy, you would have half the colleges
in the United States school out of business. But you
would have, as you know, historically black colleges and universities
would all be out of business.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
That was President Trump making the argument that Chinese students
in US universities can be a benefit to both countries.
We wanted to discuss that, so we'll bring in the
founder of the China.
Speaker 6 (20:39):
Market Research Group, Sean Ryan. Sean, thanks for rejoining us.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
What do you think the right number of Chinese students
in US universities is?
Speaker 15 (20:47):
Well, it's great to be here, Matt And on this case,
President Trump is one hundred percent right.
Speaker 5 (20:52):
Let me give you some numbers.
Speaker 15 (20:53):
It's important for American universities to attract the best talent
from China. That's three hundred thousand students a year. Why
because Chinese spend about fifteen billion US dollars every year
in the United States. They're also directly accountable for about
ninety six thousand American jobs. Since China has started sending
its students to America over the last thirty forty years,
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we estimate that Chinese have spent about four hundred billion
US dollars in the United States economy. So the first thing,
Matt is it's important to help the economy with job creation.
But second, and this is more esoteric, but China and
the US are going to be the two world's great
superpowers over the next fifty years. We need to do
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all that we can to figure out how to cohabitate
with the Chinese and how to reduce tension. But having
Chinese come to America, that's the best way for America
to export our super our soft power and get the
Chinese to love America. You know, despite the trade tensions
over the last nine years, most Chinese actually have a
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favorable view of the United States. You know, my wife,
she's from Beijing. She went to the US for her
master's degree. She absolutely loves America. You look at some
of China's leaders. She Jimping the paramount leader today. His
daughter went to Harvard, Johng's m Men, his grandson went
to Harvard, Dungshaoping, his grandkids went to Duke. So they
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weren't going to the Soviet Union. They weren't going to Russia. Now,
the Chinese elite have been sending their top people to
the United States to learn from the US, integrate, bring
back top knowledge to.
Speaker 5 (22:31):
Help implement into China.
Speaker 15 (22:32):
But the important thing is reduce tension between the two countries.
So President Trump is one hundred percent right on this.
You know, people like Laura Logan Mike Flynn should be
ashamed of themselves for criticizing Trump and saying that all
Chinese students are spies. That's just you know bed you know,
Red's under the beds nineteen fifties, McCarthyism, Salem witch trial
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conspiracy theorist Matt.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
Yeah, we don't like to lump groups of people with
characterizations like that. But there is theft of intellectual property
from US universities, and you make the point that all
these Chinese leaders have sent their children to US universities.
What would you say to those who say, well, that
proves it didn't work. Like when j said his daughter
to Harvard, he didn't become less aggressive toward the United States.
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China has become more belligerent in the South China Sea,
and so maybe this experiment hasn't been a great one.
And precisely the circumstances that you've identified.
Speaker 15 (23:31):
Yeah, good points, Matt, So I think on the first,
are there some spies amongst the three hundred thousand students
who come every year? Yes, and if they get caught,
the United States should throw the book at them with
the FBI and arrest them and put them in jail.
Speaker 5 (23:45):
One hundred percent. But let's not be naive.
Speaker 15 (23:47):
The United States also spies on China, and China's not
blocking all Chinese Americans from studying in China. They're actually
trying to get one hundred thousand American students to come
into China to study because they feel that it reduces tension. Now,
this is where you and I will disagree. I don't
think China has become more belligerent towards the United States
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over the last twenty thirty years. I think when I
talk to most of China's leaders, they're kind of like,
why is the US doing this to us?
Speaker 5 (24:16):
Why are they trying to contain us with expert controls.
Speaker 15 (24:19):
On things like Nvidia chips, with sanctions on companies like
Huawei and Zte. I think it's very clear to me
that the Chinese want to rebuild stronger relations with the
United States. I think the US should do that, you know,
keep your eyes open. You know, China is not necessarily,
unfortunately a friendly partner with the United States right now,
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but we can't just say they're an adversary or an
enemy and sort of fear monger and sensationalize the threat
of China. And I have to give you kudos, Matt,
I really thank you for saying that we don't want
to say all three hundred thousand Chinese should be smirched
like what Laura Logan and Mike Flynn is doing.
Speaker 5 (24:57):
That's really a good thing.
Speaker 6 (25:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
Yeah, I think that there are certainly circumstances where Chinese
students at US universities have endured to the benefit of
both countries, but there are also cases where that has
presented a substantial risk, and a lot of folks point
to the fact that these Chinese.
Speaker 6 (25:17):
Students don't stay.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
They go back to China at a pretty healthy clip.
Should that be something that's concerning to Americans that the
full value of the education isn't actually realized creating US
jobs and companies, but it's often realized back with America's competitor.
Speaker 15 (25:34):
Actually, I think I don't have the exact numbers, but
at least forty to fifty percent of Chinese who went
to the US and the nineties and early two thousands
stayed in the United States, became American system citizens and
helped build up the American system. I mean, you look
at Alexander Wong from Scaleai. His parents were mainland Chinese,
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they immigrated to the United States, they worked in Los Alamos,
helped build up the national security of America. So I
think the key, and you might be leading to this
might be visas. I think if America made it easier
for top Chinese talent to work in the United States
long term, that would be getting back some of the
benefits more directly of getting Chinese working in the top
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sectors in the United States. When we interview a lot
of young Chinese students, college kids. They tell me, Sean,
I would like to live in the United States. I'd
like to work in the US. But right now it's
too hard to get a work permit or work visa,
and so they're actually forced to come back to China.
One of the great things Matt about America is that
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we have been a place that the top talent in
the world, from China, from the Soviet Union, from Vietnam,
they all want to come to our country because America
is a great country. It's an exceptional country, and so
we should be making it easier for top talent.
Speaker 5 (26:53):
People who bring.
Speaker 15 (26:54):
In money, bring an intellectual knowledge into the United States.
That's what makes a great and that's what we should
be encouraging. We need to let the h one be visa.
Speaker 3 (27:04):
Maybe.
Speaker 6 (27:06):
I think there's a deal.
Speaker 1 (27:07):
There's a deal there that is going to have to
peg to some protection of American intellectual property in China
to a higher degree than it is right now. I
think if Chinese want to come here and start businesses
and have universities and have visas and do all these things,
if they take our stuff, go back commercialize it in
China and then replace American innovation that's not going to
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fly for us, and so I know that es central
to a lot of the negotiations that are going on
right now between the United States and China, and perhaps
these issues of students and IP protection can go together
in one big grand deal. But we appreciate you coming
on to talk about it, Sean Ryan, the expert we
like to always engage with on issues regarding the Middle Kingdom.
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All eyes are on Latin America as the USS gerald
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potentially prepares for conflict with Venezuela. Nicholas Maduro has continued
saber rattling despite every reasonable analysis indicating that the Venezuelan
military would not survive two hours in traditional combat with
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new decision tactically in Venezuela to take their military and
distribute it throughout the country.
Speaker 6 (30:59):
They preparing for conventional war.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
Wherever folks stand on US military engagement in Venezuela, they're
not going to tee this thing up like it's the
Red Coats.
Speaker 6 (31:08):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
They are getting into the jungles, they are going out
into the villages, and they are preparing to cause chaos
on the streets of Caracas and make it look as
though Venezuela is ungovernable in the absence of Nicholas Manduro.
Speaker 6 (31:20):
That indeed is their plan.
Speaker 1 (31:21):
And we are watching closely how a variety of America's
allies throughout Latin America are reacting to this and responding,
and it seems to be indeed two different paths. Now
we also are watching closely what's happening in Mexico, where
Mexican President Claudia Shinbaum has decided to erect large barriers
outside of the presidential palace, so much for the populism
(31:42):
that she brought to her opposition to the United States
building a wall on our border that protected our country.
Seems as though President Scheinbaum is really into walls when
they protect her, but maybe not so much neighboring Americans.
And that brings us to the elections that are upcoming
in Honduras. Honduras is a country we've been covering very
clearly because we believe it could be at the center
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of this real question in Latin America as to whether
or not there's going to be a strong left turn
in the ilk of Cuba, Venezuela and others who made
the wrong decisions, or whether or not the model we
see in Argentina in El Salvador will be one that
Honduras woyd will be able to enjoy as the consequence
(32:23):
of the vote of the people in that country. We
recently had a Kilbert Bertrand, a candidate for the equivalent
of the Honduran Congress, on our program. He predicted that
there could be some real mischief in the elections.
Speaker 6 (32:37):
Take listen.
Speaker 17 (32:38):
There is a huge risk for rigged elections in Andura's
at the hands of the righty call Left, a party
which is totally backed by Maduro's narcoal regime. They are
enemies of democracy, they are enemies of free election.
Speaker 1 (32:52):
Kilbert Bertrand is with me in studio along with Frank Ali.
They are both very involved in these upcoming elections. So Frank,
let to start with you, what should America expect in
these elections that are coming in Honduras.
Speaker 18 (33:05):
Well, Furse all, thank you Max for covering what is
happening in Honduras. Hondura's elections in the end will be
a national security interest for sure for the United States,
basically because we are right in the heart of the
American continent and for us it's a good pathway for
good things but also for bad things. And obviously we
have lee migration going up, and it's tatist sis to
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reasons one in twenty twenty four not giving a good
ratings for this socialist government that we have right now.
So in the end, the Hondura's elections will impact some
way or somehow the US voters not only on immigration,
but also on drug trafficking. You know, General Attorney General
Pammondi said that this current government, in this current Honduras
(33:45):
is being a bridge for the narcotics. She said in
a live TV that's a very hard accusation. In the end,
that's why she's right.
Speaker 16 (33:52):
I think she's one.
Speaker 6 (33:53):
Hundred percent right.
Speaker 18 (33:54):
I mean, also the House Foreign Affairs Committee on their ex.
Speaker 6 (33:58):
Page posted about it, about.
Speaker 18 (34:00):
This links that are public now with this regime now
that we have in Honduras, the socialist regime with Somadam
and medl Talaya with the Narco Terairis is in Venezuela.
So in the end, it is a US public interest
the elections that we have right now, and I think
we in the National Party have the best candidates not
only for the presidency but for all levels in Indian
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We are the US allies.
Speaker 14 (34:23):
As historically we have been.
Speaker 1 (34:24):
When you made reference to the election and regularities you
were expecting in Honduras, I reached out to some of
my sources and they told me that there are a
suspicious number of Venezuelans who have made their way to
Honduras in preparation for these elections.
Speaker 6 (34:39):
Are you worried that Maduro is going to use some
of the same.
Speaker 1 (34:43):
Tactics that they used in Venezuela to discredit the vote
of the people in Honduras.
Speaker 17 (34:47):
Well, first of all, thank you again for giving us
this time and putting hundreds in the attention of the
United States, because, like Frank said, it is directly involved.
The United States has to be directly involved here because
there's a threat to the United States.
Speaker 16 (35:01):
We're not worried.
Speaker 17 (35:02):
We're sure that Venezuela is putting their hands in Honduras.
Speaker 16 (35:06):
There's not only Venezuela, and.
Speaker 17 (35:07):
There are a lot of Cubans that are these guys
does medics that go to Hojuras and they go to
give some public service, but we know that they are
not really medics that they go for another reason. There's
a lot of irregalia irregularies going right now on in Honduras.
Speaker 16 (35:21):
We have, for example, basically all.
Speaker 17 (35:24):
The institutions attacking the Electoral Commission. For example, we have
right now as we speak, we have one of the
most important authorities in electoral cases that is right now
in the exile because he's got an arresta warrant from
the Attorney general. Why because ruling for ruling forgiving some
(35:49):
opinion about something about legally doing something. So that tells
you a lot about how the officials right now in
Honduras are working.
Speaker 1 (35:58):
And this is some way that just see if this
left wing government is able to keep power.
Speaker 6 (36:04):
What do you think what happened in the United States?
Speaker 18 (36:06):
Venezuela two point zero. You're not going to get them out.
You're going to have another venezuela, just as you had
twenty years ago when Chavis came to five in two thousand.
So in the end, they're the polls does and does
it even show them at third place or fourth place?
They're at the bottom of the line. In the end,
the election will come down to the National and the
Liberal Party.
Speaker 14 (36:24):
But in the end also we.
Speaker 18 (36:26):
Think that people will choose and that is important the
US takes into account. This is that in Hunduras that
we have patriots under US. We have people that think
of Honduras first and America versus Agendas are not different.
Speaker 14 (36:39):
They could be aligned. We've seen that.
Speaker 1 (36:41):
We've seen that strong nations with strong borders like we
have in a Salvador are better for the Americas, better
for all of the countries and involved.
Speaker 6 (36:50):
And when you just create.
Speaker 1 (36:51):
A playground for narco traffickers and thugs and criminals, then
it's bad for everybody.
Speaker 18 (36:57):
Actually, one of the oldest allies in the region, not
only in Central America, but Las America's in general, has
been Honduras as a US ally for decades and now
this is the first socialist government has come in power
in history and anti American, anti Trump administration that we
have right now in Honduras.
Speaker 14 (37:14):
They're trying to read the elections.
Speaker 1 (37:15):
Yeah, we had a socialist, anti American government just elected
in the New York City mayoral race. And there are
a lot of people who look at that and they
saw divisions on the political right. You know, they saw
some folks choosing a centrist candidate like a former Governor Cuomo,
people who felt they were carrying the true torch for
the right, supporting Curtis Sliwa, and that division allowed someone
(37:37):
on the left to win with higher margins. Are you
worried that the left may be more centrally aligned in
Honduras right now behind the current regimes chosen candidate, and
the right maybe be fractured.
Speaker 17 (37:52):
Not really mad, because there are two candidates, well, one
right candidate, okay, and one the other one that I
was actually an ally of them who made an alliance
and in that alliance they got into power.
Speaker 16 (38:05):
That's something very important to say.
Speaker 17 (38:07):
Okay Cans, the candidate right now for the Liberal Party
wasn't an alliance with them on twenty twenty one elections.
Speaker 14 (38:15):
He was the vice president.
Speaker 19 (38:16):
He was the vice president kind of like Andrew Cuomo
was a Democrat downer and had a bunch of Republicans
ended up supporting because they thought it was more practical,
kind of like, what would you say to folks observing
this and saying, you know, the National Party really ought
to support Nosrala and there's really not a lot about
Nosrala that you can't get along with, I guess.
Speaker 18 (38:36):
And just before that, you know who supported Mandani right now,
the Liberal Libre Socialist Party candidate in our country tweeted
about it, said, oh, the Democratic Socialists in New York,
they're aligned in the end, and yes, we cannot speak
a lot about. He gave them the pathway to get
into power. He was by their vice president, he put
(38:57):
the president of Congress, he put ministers in the cabinet,
and now he wants to be an anti socialist regime.
They didn't he wake up like three years ago or
what happened now. In the end, the National Party has
been the party of conservative values, of patriotism. You know,
we have our own agendas and in the end, we
think that the best cooperation is the one that is
not done by handouts, that is not costing tax prayers for.
Speaker 16 (39:20):
You or for us.
Speaker 18 (39:21):
In the end, the best is commerce, protecting our borders
and protecting also our sovereignty in our land. I think
that's the best way, and that is what the National
Party stands for.
Speaker 1 (39:31):
It does seem like a closing argument to make to
your voters.
Speaker 6 (39:34):
And if the.
Speaker 1 (39:35):
National Party does come into power in the selection, what
are some of the things in the first few days
that you would see really changing the direction.
Speaker 17 (39:43):
First of all, First of all, we're going to change
for completely the relationship that we have with the US
right now. Right now, we have a very difficult relation
with the United States of America. Why because basically the
ones that are governing US see Donald Trump's agenda like
a total opposition for what they're doing, what they think.
So first of all, that's going to change. Second of all,
(40:05):
we are going to try again to have all this
clear political pathway to the things that really and actually
care for the United States or matter for the States.
Migration laws, for example, we are trying to get the
most inversion investments in on Juris, I'm sorry, the most
investments in the Duris.
Speaker 16 (40:26):
So that we attack poverty.
Speaker 17 (40:28):
Poverty and insecurity are one of the main conses of migration,
which is basically one of the biggest problems that the
US has with Enduras and the original you have.
Speaker 6 (40:38):
To do security to get that the reason.
Speaker 16 (40:41):
And that was that was my second point. In security.
Speaker 17 (40:44):
Obviously, we have a special plan for security that we
are going to make with our candidate, the President Tito,
who's going to be the president of on Duris, and
we're going to make decision of decisive actions to battle
and to confront what we are right now.
Speaker 16 (40:58):
We are suffering. We are one of the most insant
countries in the world.
Speaker 17 (41:01):
We have one of the highest unemployment rates in the world.
That makes them durists basically heaven for people.
Speaker 16 (41:08):
To migrate from. You've given it they go to the
United States.
Speaker 6 (41:12):
You've given people plenty of reasons to leave.
Speaker 1 (41:14):
The current government has, Frank, I want to bring us
to election data. If the current government calls the election
for their allies, if they do so corruptly and illegitimately,
what are you going to look to the United States
to do?
Speaker 14 (41:30):
We need one hundred percent.
Speaker 18 (41:31):
We saw today an AX from the Deputy Secretary of
State Land out talking about election integrity, about the consequences
if they want to rig this election, they're going to lose,
and they're going to try to call elections in favor
for them. And there's nothing that they fear more is
that international coalitions of conservative but also just common sense
(41:52):
people talking about what's going on and denouncing that. If
we can have that combine of what the job we
have to do inside the country, we will not let
them steal the election.
Speaker 14 (42:02):
In the enda, I just.
Speaker 18 (42:02):
Want to make a point here, Matt. We don't want
our people to leave. We want our people to stay
in These are beautiful countries in Central America. I know
if you visited some of them, you've seen what we
have here in hundreds. We have a beautiful country. Nobody
wants to really leave. Nobody wants to send them on
a dangerous path that is filled with drug trafficking, human trafficking,
child trafficking and everything, and almost also murders right on
(42:24):
that pathway.
Speaker 14 (42:24):
We don't want our people to leave, and.
Speaker 18 (42:26):
The only answer we have for that is that the
US and hundre Is and all these regional partners can
come along and see who the right partners are.
Speaker 14 (42:33):
And in this case it is the National Party.
Speaker 18 (42:35):
And we're not asking to put the election on favor
of someone or of someone else. We're just asking just
to respect the election integrity and if we can have
it tonational.
Speaker 1 (42:45):
That is what Secretary of landou seems to be indicated
to National Relicious and we wish you safety on the trail.
We know this is a dangerous place to run for office,
and you're both patriots for your willingness to do so.
Cure and thank you Abali and Kilvic bertrand best of
luck in the upcoming.
Speaker 6 (42:59):
Election, and I'll look forward to following it very close.
Speaker 14 (43:01):
Thank you, thank you, thank you, And.
Speaker 1 (43:03):
Coming up, we'll continue to follow what's.
Speaker 6 (43:05):
Going on in the Olympics.
Speaker 1 (43:07):
We've got a Jackie Tarbarov with her analysis. Moms have
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To look now.
Speaker 1 (45:31):
But the Olympics might actually become a little more base.
They're not going to allow transgender athletes in some of
their competitions, and it means you'll get fewer moments where
people like Leah Thomas are able to just completely destroy
the field.
Speaker 6 (45:45):
Take a listen, get that lane line. She's having a
great race here and she's gonna get second.
Speaker 2 (45:52):
That will give her a lot of confidence.
Speaker 6 (45:54):
Remember she's just a freshman. Leah Thomas pulling away.
Speaker 12 (45:57):
Over the final one hundred and fifty had you worked
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She was pushed over the first three hundred and fifty meters.
Thomas wins the NCAA Championship.
Speaker 1 (46:09):
Watching a man in a woman's swimsuit is certainly not
the thing we normally associate with sports, and neither is
watching a man beat a woman senseless, which the Olympics
gave us in this moment.
Speaker 6 (46:21):
Will you know?
Speaker 2 (46:23):
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Speaker 16 (46:31):
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Speaker 5 (46:53):
Repetition is all pretty.
Speaker 1 (46:54):
Impact joining us now, The author of Super Moms activated
to Jackie Toberoff. So, Jackie, we see the Olympics now
taking a stand against these men participating in women's sports
through the fiction of transgenderism.
Speaker 6 (47:14):
What's your reaction?
Speaker 20 (47:15):
Yeah, I mean, look, this has been going on way
too Long's long science is settled.
Speaker 5 (47:22):
Male have advantages.
Speaker 20 (47:23):
They're stronger, they're taller, They overperform and they outperform women
who are the same age, same training schedule by almost
thirty percent. We have images of that boxer Immani Khalif
boxing his female opponent so hard she had to withdraw
and he won the gold medals. So, I mean, the
(47:45):
Olympics have pretty much codified beating up women, and we
see this trickling down. There's a video that's just gone
viral of Trish Hyman who was thrown out of Gold's
gym because she objected to men in the life locker room.
Speaker 1 (48:03):
When we think about the Olympics, we think a lot
about wokism. I mean, I think they had the transsexual
little Last Supper thing that they did as part of
their opening ceremonies previously. The fact that the Olympics is
thinking about banning this practice now, does that signal that
there's been a societal cultural shift on these questions.
Speaker 20 (48:26):
I mean, there's no doubt there's been a societal cultural shift.
We've seen companies from Target to Nike to Victoria's Secret
that have lost money because they've adopted these these woke
policies and people that no one is interested in. And
we don't want to see men beating up women in
the Olympics and then getting awarded a medal for it,
(48:47):
just like we don't want to see men in a
female locker room.
Speaker 1 (48:53):
Yeah, do you think that moms will think about these
issues when voting?
Speaker 6 (48:57):
In the upcoming midterms.
Speaker 1 (48:59):
We saw some candidates maybe over focus on this question
in the off year elections. But if it's something that
parents are worried about, it might be at the forefront
of their minds.
Speaker 20 (49:10):
I mean, look, I think moms do care about this.
We talk about this. I have two kids who play sports,
and parents talk about this for a long time.
Speaker 5 (49:18):
For the past five.
Speaker 20 (49:19):
Years, they've had to whisper because they're afraid about the
ramifications of their kids not being able to play. And
it's terrible for these young girls that get scholarships, specifically
black and Hispanic girls that really benefit from these scholarships, who.
Speaker 5 (49:34):
Now you know, their future is in jeopardy.
Speaker 20 (49:37):
Because they're competing against guys. So yeah, I think moms
do care about this, and they continue to care as
this Really it seems like in some blue cities and
states they're doubling.
Speaker 13 (49:48):
Down on this.
Speaker 1 (49:51):
Does it give you the sentence that the Olympics could
potentially be redeemable, that we could actually have like a
wholesome Olympics experience like we're used to from the nineties
and early two thousands.
Speaker 20 (50:02):
You know, sports is supposed to be the unifier, it's
supposed to just transcend all of this political stuff, and
it's supposed to be entertaining and of course full of merit.
I mean, I couldn't play professional football. I couldn't be
a professional mel boxer. These are things athletes train so
hard to get to this level, and we want to
celebrate them without any of the BS and the woke stuff.
(50:26):
And I hope so I hope they course correct.
Speaker 6 (50:31):
Yeah, let's hope.
Speaker 1 (50:32):
So my own athletic career was cut short to a
complete lack of talent. But you know, maybe I could
have been participating in the women's I probably still would
have lost in the women's sports.
Speaker 6 (50:42):
I would have been getting dunked on in women's.
Speaker 1 (50:45):
Basketball if I'd have gone our direction. So probably best
for me to be on the debate team. Jackie tober Off,
the author of Supermongs Activated, thanks so much for joining
me on the program.
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Thank you for having me.
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to any of you.
Speaker 2 (54:37):
Forget politics, disrespect.
Speaker 11 (54:40):
We're in Brazil, one of our great trading partners, one
of the world's great democracies, instead of Middle Finger with
fifty percent terriffs.
Speaker 3 (54:48):
That's shameful.
Speaker 11 (54:48):
Who wants to open offshore drilling and he intentionally aligned
that to opening a cop Well, he's weakness, by the way,
masquerading his strength, chilling to me to see those scenes
of the United States of America blowing up boats with
no transparency, and now we have an invasive species in
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the vernacular climate.
Speaker 14 (55:13):
By the name of Donald Trump.
Speaker 2 (55:14):
And at this moment, I'm just trying to.
Speaker 3 (55:17):
Pull those weeds.
Speaker 1 (55:19):
That was California Governor Gavin Newsom at COP.
Speaker 6 (55:21):
Thirty the UN's Climate Conference.
Speaker 1 (55:23):
Here to react is Republican candidate for Congress in California, Vinkrudavinti.
Speaker 6 (55:28):
Vin, thanks for joining me.
Speaker 1 (55:29):
What was it like seeing your governor in Brazil talking
bad about the United States and President Trump.
Speaker 21 (55:36):
Gavin new Scam is a generational scam artist who's consistently
scammed the people of California. Now with his presidential ambitions,
he's up his antics with the new Green scam.
Speaker 3 (55:50):
We've got the.
Speaker 22 (55:50):
Highest gas taxes, the highest energy costs in the country,
and one of the last in Kate Well. Education systems
are empty, one point five to eight million acres of
forest fire because of his mismanagement, ninety seven million billion
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dollars of budget surplus goes to sixty eight billion in deficit,
one twenty five billion dollars of trained to nowhere, and
billions of unaccounted money in trying to fix the homelessness.
I could write a complete book on this camster. And
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now he has completely surrendered to China, who burns more
cold than the rest of the world combined.
Speaker 21 (56:40):
But he's lecturing California and US about emissions. This is
not climate policy, this is self inflicted economics surrender.
Speaker 1 (56:55):
Indeed, and what I saw that they were bringing Gavin
Newsome to Brazil, I felt like, what do they want
want to light the rainforest on fire? Do they want
somebody around to make it where they're just never ending disasters?
Because that does seem to be what he brings. If
you were in Congress, would you be supporting the conservatives
who want to kick all of the illegal immigrants on
California's Medicaid system off of public assistance.
Speaker 21 (57:17):
Absolutely, we got to take care of our people first,
country first, America first.
Speaker 5 (57:24):
And look at what they've done.
Speaker 21 (57:26):
They've shut down our government for so long just to
make sure that illegals have the healthcare system, I mean
healthcare benefit.
Speaker 16 (57:35):
Real.
Speaker 21 (57:36):
This is like so comical that he lectures from a
world stage and like he's completely delusioned and like really
subtracted from the reality.
Speaker 1 (57:49):
Vidgrudevinti is a Republican running for Congress in California, and
he's had enough with the way Gavin.
Speaker 6 (57:54):
Newsom has been doing things. Thanks for joining us. That's
all the time we have.
Speaker 1 (57:58):
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Speaker 6 (58:13):
Let's go get them at
We are on assignment in San Salvador, El Salvador. We're
in neighboring Honduras. There is an election that is going
to happen in a few weeks. Two contestants and that
election will be with us, and they're concerned that it
might look a lot more like Venezuela than what we
want to see in the Americas. Plus, Arizona Congressman Andy
Biggs is with us. He'll bring us up to speed
on the latest efforts to end the government shutdown, and
(00:21):
we'll talk about where we go from here, both politically
and in terms of the real world impacts for everyday Americans.
Sean Ryan joins us to debate whether or not it's
a good idea to have so many Chinese students in
US universities, and even the Olympics is getting a little
based in the Golden Age. No more transgendered athletes in
several of their female events. All that and more Tonight
(00:43):
on The Mat Gates Show, Let's do.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
This shaking up Washington, d C.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
We're breaking the fever.
Speaker 4 (00:50):
Do you haven't watch this guy on television.
Speaker 5 (00:52):
It's like a machine. He's great.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
Matt Gates, as we join you, this evening, lawmakers are
rushing back to Washington, d C. In the House of
Representatives to vote on the legislation passed.
Speaker 6 (01:07):
By the Senate to end the shutdown.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
Doesn't appear there will be any amendments or changes to
those bills, and they're likely headed to President Trump's desk.
But that doesn't mean that the impacts of this poor
decision to shut down the government will automatically be ameliorated.
We have seen time and again how stops in research,
stops in air traffic control the logistics that keep America working.
Speaker 6 (01:31):
It doesn't just reignite on a dime.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
White House Press Secretary Caroline Levitt was explaining this today.
Speaker 7 (01:37):
It feels like Groundhog Day being up here again talking
about this Democrat shutdown tonight. Thanks to Republicans, the White
House is very hopeful that this shutdown is going to
come to an end. The damage caused by the Democrats
with this reckless government shutdown cannot be forgotten. It is
entirely the fault of the Democrat Party. Just look at
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the vote count. Undreds of thousands of federal employees have
missed their paychecks. Tens of billions in wages and benefits
were withheld impacting vulnerable families. Millions of low income Americans
missed their snap benefits. Nearly twenty thousand flights at airports
across the country were delayed. The Democrats shutdown could end
up decreasing fourth quarter economic growth by two whole percentage points.
(02:23):
Why have the Democrats put the American people through this
pain for forty three days in a row. And the
answer to that question is pure partisan politics. President Trump
looks forward to being to finally ending this devastating Democrats
shutdown with his signature, and we hope that signing will
take place later tonight.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
President Trump doesn't like shutdowns. He wants to keep the
country moving on his agenda. He views every day as
something that's burning off, and he wants to accomplish as
much as possible. These shutdowns obviously handcuffed the administration in
a number of key areas, including economic growth.
Speaker 6 (03:00):
You see, the.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
Shutdown happened because Chuck Schumer didn't want to look like
such a whimp, and the shutdown ended because eight Democrats
in the Senate broke ranks with Chuck Schumer. They didn't
want to follow him down the path of silliness and
more destruction to the American people. So House Democrats now
have a real issue before them. Are they going to
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be united as they were in opposition to the original
continuing resolution or will you see a substantial number of
House Democrats do what Senate Democrats did and choose logic
and reason over just the normal mud slinging of Washington. Well,
the House Democrat leader Hawking Jeffries wanted to show unity.
He rallied Democrats with an insane speech on the Capitol
(03:43):
tick Listen.
Speaker 8 (03:44):
House Democrats will continue the fight to address the Republican
healthcare crisis.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
Today.
Speaker 8 (03:49):
House Democrats will introduce legislation to extend the Affordable Care
Act tax credits for three years. This fight is not
over with just getting.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
So you know that Jeffries loses in this shutdown because
he's having to give this speech in the first place.
And by the way, why did the shutdown even occur?
Ostensibly on policy grounds? Because they wanted these Obamacare extension concessions,
and Republicans indicated that they were working on guardrails, they
were working on ensuring there was some fraud or over
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utilization of Obamacare.
Speaker 6 (04:25):
We certainly don't want.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
Every illegal alien on Obamacare.
Speaker 6 (04:29):
And then you're seeing the services for.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
The American people diminished because you have to wait in
longer lines.
Speaker 6 (04:34):
Systems get overrun, and then they.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
Become less effective for those who they were created to
care for. And those are important fellow Americans of ours,
The disabled, the impoverished, seniors, folks absolutely deserve government assistants
to be there for them when they have earned those entitlements.
Speaker 6 (04:52):
And it's often the new.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
Arrivals who were soaking up the most of them without
earning them. But see the shutdown ends with Democrats getting
that concession, without Democrats just having a blank check for
states that are over and rolling their people onto Medicaid.
Speaker 6 (05:08):
And that is a good thing and it's.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
Probably why House Speaker Mike Johnson is confident that he'll
have the votes time.
Speaker 9 (05:15):
We believe the long national nightmare will be over tonight.
It was completely and utterly foolish and pointless in the end,
As we said all along, we're very optimistic about the
vote tally tonight. We think this is going to happen,
and we're sorry that it took this long. So Republicans
are going to deliver for the people. We're ready to
get back to our legislative agenda. We have a very
aggressive calendar for the remainder of this year. There'll be
(05:37):
some long days and nights here, some long working weeks,
but we will get this thing back on tracks.
Speaker 6 (05:44):
So that's the good part.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
But remember how the Senate has changed the legislation that
came over from the House. And the legislation that came
over from the House was hardly some like conservative outstanding paradise.
It was the spending levels that were approved by Joe.
So what the Senate puts on that allows snap benefits
to be extended for an entire year, It allows the
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legislative branch to continue to get funding for an entire
fiscal year.
Speaker 6 (06:12):
But our troops, our ice, our border.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
Patrol, they only get security and certainty through the end
of January. I had a friend of former constituent reach
out to me and say, why do members of Congress
and the Senate still get paid during shutdowns? And I
of course elected not to get my paycheck during shutdowns,
and many others have done the same thing and deserve
great credit for that. But members of Congress, not only
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you know, we're not willing to en mass at scale
not take pay, they literally secured their own pay and
the pay of their own staff longer then they secure
pay for our troops.
Speaker 6 (06:53):
Think about how hypocritical.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
That is if you just said to average folks on
the street, Okay, there are really complicated questions about how
to fund the government. What are some of the things
that we should definitely pay for with the greatest degree
of stability and security. Funding the staff of lawmakers and
funding the salaries of lawmakers would not make that cut,
but it did in what the Senate passed, and that
(07:16):
showcases you a lot about how Washington works and how
broken it is. Joining us now, Arizona Congressman and Republican
candidate for governor of Arizona, Andy Biggs, Conressman, Thanks for
joining me. Is Speaker Johnson going to have the votes
tonight to pass the Senate bill?
Speaker 3 (07:32):
He is? He's gonna have it with maybe one despair.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
Matt And do you think that will get out of
this shutdown cycle or do you believe that now with
Democrats having secured funding for their own staff and their
own salaries and snap beneficiaries for an entire year, will
they try to shut down ice and border patrol and
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the military things that Republicans care about.
Speaker 6 (07:59):
In January well, they sure could.
Speaker 10 (08:02):
And I've actually been advocating that that we need to
actually get the do D, Department of Defense, and the
Department of Homeland Security full year spending bills.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
Completed before Christmas.
Speaker 10 (08:17):
If we can get those completed before Christmas, then the
pressure or pain points or the leverage points that the
Democrats might be willing to exercise through another shutdown get smaller.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
It becomes weaker.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
Do you think there is a single Department of Homeland
Security funding bill that can pass the United States Senate?
Speaker 10 (08:43):
No, No, I don't, But it becomes an interesting thing.
Speaker 11 (08:49):
Now.
Speaker 10 (08:49):
Having said that, it becomes an interesting thing because the Democrats,
then the shoe goes on the other foot. But I
think that's the problem, and that that's why, quite frankly,
in my opinion.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
You need to eliminate the sixty vote culture rule.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
Yeah, and that's really where I'm kind of going with this.
If what you're saying is Democrats, through bipartisanship, were able
to fund snap and their own salaries and their legislative salaries,
well the partisan things are going to bring us back
to this moment. And I think you and I both
see what's going on in the Department of Homeland Security
now is very effective. I think your Democrat colleagues are
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going to try to dismantle that. Can you give my
viewers a sense of what some of the demands will
be from House and Senate Democrats to get a funding
bill done for those who are securing our border and
enforcing our immigration laws in the country.
Speaker 10 (09:45):
Well, they're going to start right there and say, you
can't deport people unless they have a secondary criminal offense.
In other words, you can't deport somebody who's here simply
for illegally being here, which by the way, is a
criminal offense, but you're going to have to have something
like a dui, a theft, an assault, a murder, or
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something like that. So they're going to try to preserve
and keep people in. The second thing is they're going
to try to block anything dealing with ID for identification,
for voting rights and those types of things. They will
step on anything that will slow down border security and
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will slow down the removal of illegal aliens.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
From the country, And so that's where they're going to
go first.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
Met I presume that you would be for eliminating these
COVID era Obamacare subsidies altogether.
Speaker 6 (10:46):
But there will be some sort.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
Of bipartisan coalition to try to save them in some fashion.
What do you think that will look like? What are
you watching in that debate?
Speaker 10 (10:56):
So what I'm watching is I'm watching about twelve to
fifteen Republicans to see.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
Where they go.
Speaker 10 (11:02):
I don't believe any Republicans going to vote for a
three year extension, which is what jakeem Jeffries wants. And
I also believe that what you're going to have to
see is the Republicans are going to have to come
in and start talking about.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
And basically lead the narrative. We are not leading the narrative.
Speaker 10 (11:21):
On this, Matt, as you know so often we don't
lead the narrative. But the narrative on this is, guess what.
The Affordable Care Act was never affordable and never provided
good healthcare. It was a bust in every way, and
that's why you have to subsidize it, because it's not
affordable unless you subsidize it.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
And so don't be surprised.
Speaker 10 (11:44):
If you see some kind of attempt to say, well,
we're going to grandfather in.
Speaker 3 (11:51):
People who are on the expansion now, but.
Speaker 10 (11:54):
We're not going to allow it to continue on and
The reason is because the estimate is at least twenty
percent of people don't even realize that they are in
the expansion population and are signed on to get benefits
because there's an automatic reauthorization. And so if you start
winnowing it down by eliminating the grandfather or see me
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just grandfathering.
Speaker 3 (12:16):
It and saying that's it, you cap it.
Speaker 10 (12:17):
At that point it looks like there's a potential that
you could actually get votes to do that. The question
is can you get Democrat votes? And the answer is
probably not. Again, so that's why that filibuster rule, the
cloture rule is so important, Matt, because they're not going
to move and budge on that. And that's the fastest
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growing government program is the Medicaid expansion program.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
In the country, and it.
Speaker 10 (12:45):
Also has, by the way, roughly forty to fifty percent
of it is waste and fraud.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
If you are elected governor of Arizona, what waivers will
you seek from the Trump administration so that Arizona can
design its own medicaid program.
Speaker 10 (13:05):
Well, what we're going to do is try to get
a waiver so we could actually expand and increase the
use of hsas for instance, so that they become really
broad and you can use them for virtually any aspect
of it that you want. But we're going to the point,
and the purpose will be ultimately to allow individuals to
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have their choices so that you have transparency. You know
how much something costs, and the cost is limited. So
they're calling most favored nations. So these are technical issues
that people don't understand. But what people will understand is
if you say, we can reduce your cost for medications,
we can reduce your cost for procedures, and we can
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also let you have more freedom in your choice.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
We want to get out and let you have all.
Speaker 10 (13:53):
The freedom you need to be able to make the
choices because the control the C and the acation should
have stood for control, because the federal government is controlling
every aspect of your medical care.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
You will be running likely against Katie Hobbs, the incumbent
Democrat governor of Arizona. And you know, I'm watching what
Washington Democrats are doing with this very muscular shutdown strategy
opposed Trump at all costs. Do you think it will
be harder for Democrats like Katie Hobbs to say, well,
I'm just a pragmatist. I'm just trying to keep the
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trains running on time when National Democrats are throwing all
of these fits.
Speaker 3 (14:36):
Well, here's the deal.
Speaker 10 (14:37):
Katie Hobbs fits right in with a met She's a
hardcore leftist and so she didn't really have a problem
with what they're doing. But for the fact that she
does feel her advisors tell her, I'm sure this is electorally.
Speaker 3 (14:52):
Not great for us.
Speaker 10 (14:54):
But in Arizona, I think people, even in the independent side,
they want government to work and they want to have
control of their own lives, and they don't want these wild,
crazy leftist politics. And by the way, in Arizona, number
one issue is still the border and public safety.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
Number two is affordability.
Speaker 10 (15:16):
And those are neck and neck, and then everything else
drops way back. But those are the two things that
I think affect everybody throughout the.
Speaker 3 (15:24):
Country, but certainly in Arizona we feel it.
Speaker 10 (15:27):
And the things that aren't affordable in Arizona are gas, housing,
and foods a little bit off yet, but medical care.
Those are the four things that are really not affordable
right now in Arizona.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
Is there anything Congress can do on the affordability issue
ahead of these midterm elections if it's weighing so heavily
on voters.
Speaker 10 (15:54):
Yeah, for one thing, they could fix some of the
tax problems. The second thing is you need to really
make sure that you accelerate the opening up of our
energy fields and energy development, because about forty percent of
the increased prices that Americans are paying is because our
energy costs still remain too high.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
And it's coming down slowly but surely. But if you
could take care of that.
Speaker 10 (16:18):
Matt, all of a sudden, everybody will feel much relieved.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
Arizona Congressman Andy Biggs, current leading Republican candidate for governor
of Arizona.
Speaker 6 (16:30):
We wish you well in the vote tonight.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
We want this shutdown to end, but we hope we're
not setting up for a shutdown in January where Democrats
have banged key victories for themselves and we're out there
fighting for the troops and the border patrol, all these
folks who I know you care deeply about. Thanks for
coming on the show and bringing us up to speed.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
Thank you, Matt. It's always great to be with.
Speaker 6 (16:51):
You and coming up.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
President Trump has made recent comments about the value of
Chinese students in US universe, will debate that subject with
Sean Rhyme after.
Speaker 6 (17:02):
A quick break.
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Speaker 6 (19:20):
Does that mean the.
Speaker 13 (19:21):
H one B visa thing will not be a big
priority for your administration? Because if you want to raise
wages for American workers, you can't flood the country with
tens of thousands or hundreds of dolls.
Speaker 4 (19:31):
And we also do have to bring in talent when
we come.
Speaker 6 (19:34):
To talent, and no, you don't.
Speaker 13 (19:36):
We don't have talent in me now.
Speaker 4 (19:38):
You don't have you don't have certain talents, and you
have to people have to learn. Can't just say a
country's coming in, going to invest ten billion dollars to
build a plant and going to take people off an
unemployment line, who haven't worked in five years and they're
going to start making their missiles.
Speaker 14 (19:53):
It doesn't work that well.
Speaker 13 (19:54):
You've said as many as six hundred thousand Chinese students
could come to the United States. Why, sir, is that
a pro maga position when so many American kids want
to go to school and there are places not for them,
and these universities are getting rich off Chinese money.
Speaker 4 (20:09):
Sure, never said about China, but we do have a
lot of people coming in from China.
Speaker 14 (20:14):
We always have.
Speaker 4 (20:15):
If we were to cut that in half, which perhaps
makes some people happy, you would have half the colleges
in the United States school out of business. But you
would have, as you know, historically black colleges and universities
would all be out of business.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
That was President Trump making the argument that Chinese students
in US universities can be a benefit to both countries.
We wanted to discuss that, so we'll bring in the
founder of the China.
Speaker 6 (20:39):
Market Research Group, Sean Ryan. Sean, thanks for rejoining us.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
What do you think the right number of Chinese students
in US universities is?
Speaker 15 (20:47):
Well, it's great to be here, Matt And on this case,
President Trump is one hundred percent right.
Speaker 5 (20:52):
Let me give you some numbers.
Speaker 15 (20:53):
It's important for American universities to attract the best talent
from China. That's three hundred thousand students a year. Why
because Chinese spend about fifteen billion US dollars every year
in the United States. They're also directly accountable for about
ninety six thousand American jobs. Since China has started sending
its students to America over the last thirty forty years,
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we estimate that Chinese have spent about four hundred billion
US dollars in the United States economy. So the first thing,
Matt is it's important to help the economy with job creation.
But second, and this is more esoteric, but China and
the US are going to be the two world's great
superpowers over the next fifty years. We need to do
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all that we can to figure out how to cohabitate
with the Chinese and how to reduce tension. But having
Chinese come to America, that's the best way for America
to export our super our soft power and get the
Chinese to love America. You know, despite the trade tensions
over the last nine years, most Chinese actually have a
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favorable view of the United States. You know, my wife,
she's from Beijing. She went to the US for her
master's degree. She absolutely loves America. You look at some
of China's leaders. She Jimping the paramount leader today. His
daughter went to Harvard, Johng's m Men, his grandson went
to Harvard, Dungshaoping, his grandkids went to Duke. So they
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weren't going to the Soviet Union. They weren't going to Russia. Now,
the Chinese elite have been sending their top people to
the United States to learn from the US, integrate, bring
back top knowledge to.
Speaker 5 (22:31):
Help implement into China.
Speaker 15 (22:32):
But the important thing is reduce tension between the two countries.
So President Trump is one hundred percent right on this.
You know, people like Laura Logan Mike Flynn should be
ashamed of themselves for criticizing Trump and saying that all
Chinese students are spies. That's just you know bed you know,
Red's under the beds nineteen fifties, McCarthyism, Salem witch trial
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conspiracy theorist Matt.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
Yeah, we don't like to lump groups of people with
characterizations like that. But there is theft of intellectual property
from US universities, and you make the point that all
these Chinese leaders have sent their children to US universities.
What would you say to those who say, well, that
proves it didn't work. Like when j said his daughter
to Harvard, he didn't become less aggressive toward the United States.
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China has become more belligerent in the South China Sea,
and so maybe this experiment hasn't been a great one.
And precisely the circumstances that you've identified.
Speaker 15 (23:31):
Yeah, good points, Matt, So I think on the first,
are there some spies amongst the three hundred thousand students
who come every year? Yes, and if they get caught,
the United States should throw the book at them with
the FBI and arrest them and put them in jail.
Speaker 5 (23:45):
One hundred percent. But let's not be naive.
Speaker 15 (23:47):
The United States also spies on China, and China's not
blocking all Chinese Americans from studying in China. They're actually
trying to get one hundred thousand American students to come
into China to study because they feel that it reduces tension. Now,
this is where you and I will disagree. I don't
think China has become more belligerent towards the United States
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over the last twenty thirty years. I think when I
talk to most of China's leaders, they're kind of like,
why is the US doing this to us?
Speaker 5 (24:16):
Why are they trying to contain us with expert controls.
Speaker 15 (24:19):
On things like Nvidia chips, with sanctions on companies like
Huawei and Zte. I think it's very clear to me
that the Chinese want to rebuild stronger relations with the
United States. I think the US should do that, you know,
keep your eyes open. You know, China is not necessarily,
unfortunately a friendly partner with the United States right now,
(24:40):
but we can't just say they're an adversary or an
enemy and sort of fear monger and sensationalize the threat
of China. And I have to give you kudos, Matt,
I really thank you for saying that we don't want
to say all three hundred thousand Chinese should be smirched
like what Laura Logan and Mike Flynn is doing.
Speaker 5 (24:57):
That's really a good thing.
Speaker 6 (25:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
Yeah, I think that there are certainly circumstances where Chinese
students at US universities have endured to the benefit of
both countries, but there are also cases where that has
presented a substantial risk, and a lot of folks point
to the fact that these Chinese.
Speaker 6 (25:17):
Students don't stay.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
They go back to China at a pretty healthy clip.
Should that be something that's concerning to Americans that the
full value of the education isn't actually realized creating US
jobs and companies, but it's often realized back with America's competitor.
Speaker 15 (25:34):
Actually, I think I don't have the exact numbers, but
at least forty to fifty percent of Chinese who went
to the US and the nineties and early two thousands
stayed in the United States, became American system citizens and
helped build up the American system. I mean, you look
at Alexander Wong from Scaleai. His parents were mainland Chinese,
(25:55):
they immigrated to the United States, they worked in Los Alamos,
helped build up the national security of America. So I
think the key, and you might be leading to this
might be visas. I think if America made it easier
for top Chinese talent to work in the United States
long term, that would be getting back some of the
benefits more directly of getting Chinese working in the top
(26:18):
sectors in the United States. When we interview a lot
of young Chinese students, college kids. They tell me, Sean,
I would like to live in the United States. I'd
like to work in the US. But right now it's
too hard to get a work permit or work visa,
and so they're actually forced to come back to China.
One of the great things Matt about America is that
(26:39):
we have been a place that the top talent in
the world, from China, from the Soviet Union, from Vietnam,
they all want to come to our country because America
is a great country. It's an exceptional country, and so
we should be making it easier for top talent.
Speaker 5 (26:53):
People who bring.
Speaker 15 (26:54):
In money, bring an intellectual knowledge into the United States.
That's what makes a great and that's what we should
be encouraging. We need to let the h one be visa.
Speaker 3 (27:04):
Maybe.
Speaker 6 (27:06):
I think there's a deal.
Speaker 1 (27:07):
There's a deal there that is going to have to
peg to some protection of American intellectual property in China
to a higher degree than it is right now. I
think if Chinese want to come here and start businesses
and have universities and have visas and do all these things,
if they take our stuff, go back commercialize it in
China and then replace American innovation that's not going to
(27:29):
fly for us, and so I know that es central
to a lot of the negotiations that are going on
right now between the United States and China, and perhaps
these issues of students and IP protection can go together
in one big grand deal. But we appreciate you coming
on to talk about it, Sean Ryan, the expert we
like to always engage with on issues regarding the Middle Kingdom.
(27:49):
Appreciate you, Thank you, Matt, And coming up we will
have real focus on the current circumstances in Latin America.
Venezuela is getting hot in Mexico. They are erecting barriers
you won't believe where, And we'll check in on the
Honduran election that some are saying could be the next
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All eyes are on Latin America as the USS gerald
Ford Carrier Battle Group enters the Gulf of America and
potentially prepares for conflict with Venezuela. Nicholas Maduro has continued
saber rattling despite every reasonable analysis indicating that the Venezuelan
military would not survive two hours in traditional combat with
the Department of War. That's probably why there's been a
(30:54):
new decision tactically in Venezuela to take their military and
distribute it throughout the country.
Speaker 6 (30:59):
They preparing for conventional war.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
Wherever folks stand on US military engagement in Venezuela, they're
not going to tee this thing up like it's the
Red Coats.
Speaker 6 (31:08):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
They are getting into the jungles, they are going out
into the villages, and they are preparing to cause chaos
on the streets of Caracas and make it look as
though Venezuela is ungovernable in the absence of Nicholas Manduro.
Speaker 6 (31:20):
That indeed is their plan.
Speaker 1 (31:21):
And we are watching closely how a variety of America's
allies throughout Latin America are reacting to this and responding,
and it seems to be indeed two different paths. Now
we also are watching closely what's happening in Mexico, where
Mexican President Claudia Shinbaum has decided to erect large barriers
outside of the presidential palace, so much for the populism
(31:42):
that she brought to her opposition to the United States
building a wall on our border that protected our country.
Seems as though President Scheinbaum is really into walls when
they protect her, but maybe not so much neighboring Americans.
And that brings us to the elections that are upcoming
in Honduras. Honduras is a country we've been covering very
clearly because we believe it could be at the center
(32:02):
of this real question in Latin America as to whether
or not there's going to be a strong left turn
in the ilk of Cuba, Venezuela and others who made
the wrong decisions, or whether or not the model we
see in Argentina in El Salvador will be one that
Honduras woyd will be able to enjoy as the consequence
(32:23):
of the vote of the people in that country. We
recently had a Kilbert Bertrand, a candidate for the equivalent
of the Honduran Congress, on our program. He predicted that
there could be some real mischief in the elections.
Speaker 6 (32:37):
Take listen.
Speaker 17 (32:38):
There is a huge risk for rigged elections in Andura's
at the hands of the righty call Left, a party
which is totally backed by Maduro's narcoal regime. They are
enemies of democracy, they are enemies of free election.
Speaker 1 (32:52):
Kilbert Bertrand is with me in studio along with Frank Ali.
They are both very involved in these upcoming elections. So Frank,
let to start with you, what should America expect in
these elections that are coming in Honduras.
Speaker 18 (33:05):
Well, Furse all, thank you Max for covering what is
happening in Honduras. Hondura's elections in the end will be
a national security interest for sure for the United States,
basically because we are right in the heart of the
American continent and for us it's a good pathway for
good things but also for bad things. And obviously we
have lee migration going up, and it's tatist sis to
(33:25):
reasons one in twenty twenty four not giving a good
ratings for this socialist government that we have right now.
So in the end, the Hondura's elections will impact some
way or somehow the US voters not only on immigration,
but also on drug trafficking. You know, General Attorney General
Pammondi said that this current government, in this current Honduras
(33:45):
is being a bridge for the narcotics. She said in
a live TV that's a very hard accusation. In the end,
that's why she's right.
Speaker 16 (33:52):
I think she's one.
Speaker 6 (33:53):
Hundred percent right.
Speaker 18 (33:54):
I mean, also the House Foreign Affairs Committee on their ex.
Speaker 6 (33:58):
Page posted about it, about.
Speaker 18 (34:00):
This links that are public now with this regime now
that we have in Honduras, the socialist regime with Somadam
and medl Talaya with the Narco Terairis is in Venezuela.
So in the end, it is a US public interest
the elections that we have right now, and I think
we in the National Party have the best candidates not
only for the presidency but for all levels in Indian
(34:21):
We are the US allies.
Speaker 14 (34:23):
As historically we have been.
Speaker 1 (34:24):
When you made reference to the election and regularities you
were expecting in Honduras, I reached out to some of
my sources and they told me that there are a
suspicious number of Venezuelans who have made their way to
Honduras in preparation for these elections.
Speaker 6 (34:39):
Are you worried that Maduro is going to use some
of the same.
Speaker 1 (34:43):
Tactics that they used in Venezuela to discredit the vote
of the people in Honduras.
Speaker 17 (34:47):
Well, first of all, thank you again for giving us
this time and putting hundreds in the attention of the
United States, because, like Frank said, it is directly involved.
The United States has to be directly involved here because
there's a threat to the United States.
Speaker 16 (35:01):
We're not worried.
Speaker 17 (35:02):
We're sure that Venezuela is putting their hands in Honduras.
Speaker 16 (35:06):
There's not only Venezuela, and.
Speaker 17 (35:07):
There are a lot of Cubans that are these guys
does medics that go to Hojuras and they go to
give some public service, but we know that they are
not really medics that they go for another reason. There's
a lot of irregalia irregularies going right now on in Honduras.
Speaker 16 (35:21):
We have, for example, basically all.
Speaker 17 (35:24):
The institutions attacking the Electoral Commission. For example, we have
right now as we speak, we have one of the
most important authorities in electoral cases that is right now
in the exile because he's got an arresta warrant from
the Attorney general. Why because ruling for ruling forgiving some
(35:49):
opinion about something about legally doing something. So that tells
you a lot about how the officials right now in
Honduras are working.
Speaker 1 (35:58):
And this is some way that just see if this
left wing government is able to keep power.
Speaker 6 (36:04):
What do you think what happened in the United States?
Speaker 18 (36:06):
Venezuela two point zero. You're not going to get them out.
You're going to have another venezuela, just as you had
twenty years ago when Chavis came to five in two thousand.
So in the end, they're the polls does and does
it even show them at third place or fourth place?
They're at the bottom of the line. In the end,
the election will come down to the National and the
Liberal Party.
Speaker 14 (36:24):
But in the end also we.
Speaker 18 (36:26):
Think that people will choose and that is important the
US takes into account. This is that in Hunduras that
we have patriots under US. We have people that think
of Honduras first and America versus Agendas are not different.
Speaker 14 (36:39):
They could be aligned. We've seen that.
Speaker 1 (36:41):
We've seen that strong nations with strong borders like we
have in a Salvador are better for the Americas, better
for all of the countries and involved.
Speaker 6 (36:50):
And when you just create.
Speaker 1 (36:51):
A playground for narco traffickers and thugs and criminals, then
it's bad for everybody.
Speaker 18 (36:57):
Actually, one of the oldest allies in the region, not
only in Central America, but Las America's in general, has
been Honduras as a US ally for decades and now
this is the first socialist government has come in power
in history and anti American, anti Trump administration that we
have right now in Honduras.
Speaker 14 (37:14):
They're trying to read the elections.
Speaker 1 (37:15):
Yeah, we had a socialist, anti American government just elected
in the New York City mayoral race. And there are
a lot of people who look at that and they
saw divisions on the political right. You know, they saw
some folks choosing a centrist candidate like a former Governor Cuomo,
people who felt they were carrying the true torch for
the right, supporting Curtis Sliwa, and that division allowed someone
(37:37):
on the left to win with higher margins. Are you
worried that the left may be more centrally aligned in
Honduras right now behind the current regimes chosen candidate, and
the right maybe be fractured.
Speaker 17 (37:52):
Not really mad, because there are two candidates, well, one
right candidate, okay, and one the other one that I
was actually an ally of them who made an alliance
and in that alliance they got into power.
Speaker 16 (38:05):
That's something very important to say.
Speaker 17 (38:07):
Okay Cans, the candidate right now for the Liberal Party
wasn't an alliance with them on twenty twenty one elections.
Speaker 14 (38:15):
He was the vice president.
Speaker 19 (38:16):
He was the vice president kind of like Andrew Cuomo
was a Democrat downer and had a bunch of Republicans
ended up supporting because they thought it was more practical,
kind of like, what would you say to folks observing
this and saying, you know, the National Party really ought
to support Nosrala and there's really not a lot about
Nosrala that you can't get along with, I guess.
Speaker 18 (38:36):
And just before that, you know who supported Mandani right now,
the Liberal Libre Socialist Party candidate in our country tweeted
about it, said, oh, the Democratic Socialists in New York,
they're aligned in the end, and yes, we cannot speak
a lot about. He gave them the pathway to get
into power. He was by their vice president, he put
(38:57):
the president of Congress, he put ministers in the cabinet,
and now he wants to be an anti socialist regime.
They didn't he wake up like three years ago or
what happened now. In the end, the National Party has
been the party of conservative values, of patriotism. You know,
we have our own agendas and in the end, we
think that the best cooperation is the one that is
not done by handouts, that is not costing tax prayers for.
Speaker 16 (39:20):
You or for us.
Speaker 18 (39:21):
In the end, the best is commerce, protecting our borders
and protecting also our sovereignty in our land. I think
that's the best way, and that is what the National
Party stands for.
Speaker 1 (39:31):
It does seem like a closing argument to make to
your voters.
Speaker 6 (39:34):
And if the.
Speaker 1 (39:35):
National Party does come into power in the selection, what
are some of the things in the first few days
that you would see really changing the direction.
Speaker 17 (39:43):
First of all, First of all, we're going to change
for completely the relationship that we have with the US
right now. Right now, we have a very difficult relation
with the United States of America. Why because basically the
ones that are governing US see Donald Trump's agenda like
a total opposition for what they're doing, what they think.
So first of all, that's going to change. Second of all,
(40:05):
we are going to try again to have all this
clear political pathway to the things that really and actually
care for the United States or matter for the States.
Migration laws, for example, we are trying to get the
most inversion investments in on Juris, I'm sorry, the most
investments in the Duris.
Speaker 16 (40:26):
So that we attack poverty.
Speaker 17 (40:28):
Poverty and insecurity are one of the main conses of migration,
which is basically one of the biggest problems that the
US has with Enduras and the original you have.
Speaker 6 (40:38):
To do security to get that the reason.
Speaker 16 (40:41):
And that was that was my second point. In security.
Speaker 17 (40:44):
Obviously, we have a special plan for security that we
are going to make with our candidate, the President Tito,
who's going to be the president of on Duris, and
we're going to make decision of decisive actions to battle
and to confront what we are right now.
Speaker 16 (40:58):
We are suffering. We are one of the most insant
countries in the world.
Speaker 17 (41:01):
We have one of the highest unemployment rates in the world.
That makes them durists basically heaven for people.
Speaker 16 (41:08):
To migrate from. You've given it they go to the
United States.
Speaker 6 (41:12):
You've given people plenty of reasons to leave.
Speaker 1 (41:14):
The current government has, Frank, I want to bring us
to election data. If the current government calls the election
for their allies, if they do so corruptly and illegitimately,
what are you going to look to the United States
to do?
Speaker 14 (41:30):
We need one hundred percent.
Speaker 18 (41:31):
We saw today an AX from the Deputy Secretary of
State Land out talking about election integrity, about the consequences
if they want to rig this election, they're going to lose,
and they're going to try to call elections in favor
for them. And there's nothing that they fear more is
that international coalitions of conservative but also just common sense
(41:52):
people talking about what's going on and denouncing that. If
we can have that combine of what the job we
have to do inside the country, we will not let
them steal the election.
Speaker 14 (42:02):
In the enda, I just.
Speaker 18 (42:02):
Want to make a point here, Matt. We don't want
our people to leave. We want our people to stay
in These are beautiful countries in Central America. I know
if you visited some of them, you've seen what we
have here in hundreds. We have a beautiful country. Nobody
wants to really leave. Nobody wants to send them on
a dangerous path that is filled with drug trafficking, human trafficking,
child trafficking and everything, and almost also murders right on
(42:24):
that pathway.
Speaker 14 (42:24):
We don't want our people to leave, and.
Speaker 18 (42:26):
The only answer we have for that is that the
US and hundre Is and all these regional partners can
come along and see who the right partners are.
Speaker 14 (42:33):
And in this case it is the National Party.
Speaker 18 (42:35):
And we're not asking to put the election on favor
of someone or of someone else. We're just asking just
to respect the election integrity and if we can have
it tonational.
Speaker 1 (42:45):
That is what Secretary of landou seems to be indicated
to National Relicious and we wish you safety on the trail.
We know this is a dangerous place to run for office,
and you're both patriots for your willingness to do so.
Cure and thank you Abali and Kilvic bertrand best of
luck in the upcoming.
Speaker 6 (42:59):
Election, and I'll look forward to following it very close.
Speaker 14 (43:01):
Thank you, thank you, thank you, And.
Speaker 1 (43:03):
Coming up, we'll continue to follow what's.
Speaker 6 (43:05):
Going on in the Olympics.
Speaker 1 (43:07):
We've got a Jackie Tarbarov with her analysis. Moms have
been activated and you will hear about it next.
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Speaker 6 (45:30):
To look now.
Speaker 1 (45:31):
But the Olympics might actually become a little more base.
They're not going to allow transgender athletes in some of
their competitions, and it means you'll get fewer moments where
people like Leah Thomas are able to just completely destroy
the field.
Speaker 6 (45:45):
Take a listen, get that lane line. She's having a
great race here and she's gonna get second.
Speaker 2 (45:52):
That will give her a lot of confidence.
Speaker 6 (45:54):
Remember she's just a freshman. Leah Thomas pulling away.
Speaker 12 (45:57):
Over the final one hundred and fifty had you worked
for it.
Speaker 6 (46:01):
She was pushed over the first three hundred and fifty meters.
Thomas wins the NCAA Championship.
Speaker 1 (46:09):
Watching a man in a woman's swimsuit is certainly not
the thing we normally associate with sports, and neither is
watching a man beat a woman senseless, which the Olympics
gave us in this moment.
Speaker 6 (46:21):
Will you know?
Speaker 2 (46:23):
But do you know what we.
Speaker 16 (46:31):
I'm at the Amori al majoria. How did you with
a when?
Speaker 10 (46:41):
What to us?
Speaker 16 (46:41):
Did you exact?
Speaker 13 (46:45):
Travis lal kanz coelicana.
Speaker 5 (46:53):
Repetition is all pretty.
Speaker 1 (46:54):
Impact joining us now, The author of Super Moms activated
to Jackie Toberoff. So, Jackie, we see the Olympics now
taking a stand against these men participating in women's sports
through the fiction of transgenderism.
Speaker 6 (47:14):
What's your reaction?
Speaker 20 (47:15):
Yeah, I mean, look, this has been going on way
too Long's long science is settled.
Speaker 5 (47:22):
Male have advantages.
Speaker 20 (47:23):
They're stronger, they're taller, They overperform and they outperform women
who are the same age, same training schedule by almost
thirty percent. We have images of that boxer Immani Khalif
boxing his female opponent so hard she had to withdraw
and he won the gold medals. So, I mean, the
(47:45):
Olympics have pretty much codified beating up women, and we
see this trickling down. There's a video that's just gone
viral of Trish Hyman who was thrown out of Gold's
gym because she objected to men in the life locker room.
Speaker 1 (48:03):
When we think about the Olympics, we think a lot
about wokism. I mean, I think they had the transsexual
little Last Supper thing that they did as part of
their opening ceremonies previously. The fact that the Olympics is
thinking about banning this practice now, does that signal that
there's been a societal cultural shift on these questions.
Speaker 20 (48:26):
I mean, there's no doubt there's been a societal cultural shift.
We've seen companies from Target to Nike to Victoria's Secret
that have lost money because they've adopted these these woke
policies and people that no one is interested in. And
we don't want to see men beating up women in
the Olympics and then getting awarded a medal for it,
(48:47):
just like we don't want to see men in a
female locker room.
Speaker 1 (48:53):
Yeah, do you think that moms will think about these
issues when voting?
Speaker 6 (48:57):
In the upcoming midterms.
Speaker 1 (48:59):
We saw some candidates maybe over focus on this question
in the off year elections. But if it's something that
parents are worried about, it might be at the forefront
of their minds.
Speaker 20 (49:10):
I mean, look, I think moms do care about this.
We talk about this. I have two kids who play sports,
and parents talk about this for a long time.
Speaker 5 (49:18):
For the past five.
Speaker 20 (49:19):
Years, they've had to whisper because they're afraid about the
ramifications of their kids not being able to play. And
it's terrible for these young girls that get scholarships, specifically
black and Hispanic girls that really benefit from these scholarships, who.
Speaker 5 (49:34):
Now you know, their future is in jeopardy.
Speaker 20 (49:37):
Because they're competing against guys. So yeah, I think moms
do care about this, and they continue to care as
this Really it seems like in some blue cities and
states they're doubling.
Speaker 13 (49:48):
Down on this.
Speaker 1 (49:51):
Does it give you the sentence that the Olympics could
potentially be redeemable, that we could actually have like a
wholesome Olympics experience like we're used to from the nineties
and early two thousands.
Speaker 20 (50:02):
You know, sports is supposed to be the unifier, it's
supposed to just transcend all of this political stuff, and
it's supposed to be entertaining and of course full of merit.
I mean, I couldn't play professional football. I couldn't be
a professional mel boxer. These are things athletes train so
hard to get to this level, and we want to
celebrate them without any of the BS and the woke stuff.
(50:26):
And I hope so I hope they course correct.
Speaker 6 (50:31):
Yeah, let's hope.
Speaker 1 (50:32):
So my own athletic career was cut short to a
complete lack of talent. But you know, maybe I could
have been participating in the women's I probably still would
have lost in the women's sports.
Speaker 6 (50:42):
I would have been getting dunked on in women's.
Speaker 1 (50:45):
Basketball if I'd have gone our direction. So probably best
for me to be on the debate team. Jackie tober Off,
the author of Supermongs Activated, thanks so much for joining
me on the program.
Speaker 20 (50:54):
Thank you for having me.
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is emerging in the United States. But I hope people
stayed of mind globally is that he is not a
permanent mixture of my country. Going on in my country,
not one person from the administration to show any respect
to any of you.
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Forget politics, disrespect.
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We're in Brazil, one of our great trading partners, one
of the world's great democracies, instead of Middle Finger with
fifty percent terriffs.
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That's shameful.
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Who wants to open offshore drilling and he intentionally aligned
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the vernacular climate.
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By the name of Donald Trump.
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And at this moment, I'm just trying to.
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Pull those weeds.
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That was California Governor Gavin Newsom at COP.
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Thirty the UN's Climate Conference.
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Here to react is Republican candidate for Congress in California, Vinkrudavinti.
Speaker 6 (55:28):
Vin, thanks for joining me.
Speaker 1 (55:29):
What was it like seeing your governor in Brazil talking
bad about the United States and President Trump.
Speaker 21 (55:36):
Gavin new Scam is a generational scam artist who's consistently
scammed the people of California. Now with his presidential ambitions,
he's up his antics with the new Green scam.
Speaker 3 (55:50):
We've got the.
Speaker 22 (55:50):
Highest gas taxes, the highest energy costs in the country,
and one of the last in Kate Well. Education systems
are empty, one point five to eight million acres of
forest fire because of his mismanagement, ninety seven million billion
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dollars of budget surplus goes to sixty eight billion in deficit,
one twenty five billion dollars of trained to nowhere, and
billions of unaccounted money in trying to fix the homelessness.
I could write a complete book on this camster. And
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now he has completely surrendered to China, who burns more
cold than the rest of the world combined.
Speaker 21 (56:40):
But he's lecturing California and US about emissions. This is
not climate policy, this is self inflicted economics surrender.
Speaker 1 (56:55):
Indeed, and what I saw that they were bringing Gavin
Newsome to Brazil, I felt like, what do they want
want to light the rainforest on fire? Do they want
somebody around to make it where they're just never ending disasters?
Because that does seem to be what he brings. If
you were in Congress, would you be supporting the conservatives
who want to kick all of the illegal immigrants on
California's Medicaid system off of public assistance.
Speaker 21 (57:17):
Absolutely, we got to take care of our people first,
country first, America first.
Speaker 5 (57:24):
And look at what they've done.
Speaker 21 (57:26):
They've shut down our government for so long just to
make sure that illegals have the healthcare system, I mean
healthcare benefit.
Speaker 16 (57:35):
Real.
Speaker 21 (57:36):
This is like so comical that he lectures from a
world stage and like he's completely delusioned and like really
subtracted from the reality.
Speaker 1 (57:49):
Vidgrudevinti is a Republican running for Congress in California, and
he's had enough with the way Gavin.
Speaker 6 (57:54):
Newsom has been doing things. Thanks for joining us. That's
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