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Speaker 1 (00:00):
We are in day four of the war between Israel
and Iran. Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Green doesn't believe America should
enter that war. She joins me at the top of
the show. Plus, how is President Trump processing the competing
arguments for and against US involvement in another Middle East
regime change war. His former chief of staff, former Congressman
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Mark Meadows, joins me to get inside the commander in
chiefs thinking. A new Breitbart report has the funders of
the No Kings riots exposed, and we will cover the
tragedy in Minnesota where lawmakers were attacked, targeted, one even killed.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
It's all next to the Mack Gates Show. Let's do
this shaking up Washington, d C. We're breaking the fever.
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Do you haven't watch this guy on television.
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It's like a machine.
Speaker 5 (00:46):
He's great Matt Gates.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
Tonight, President Trump is in hot pursuit of peace. He
is working to de escalate the war between Israel and Iran.
Certain President Trump does not want to entangle the United
States in this conflict needlessly. Many of President Trump's pro
Israel friends and advisors are trying to pressure and convince
him that the United States should join airstrikes against Iran
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on this program. We strongly disagree with that assessment and
that Advice President Trump should reject it. So far, President
Trump has wisely resisted the pressure. President Trump knows that
the Bush era doctrine of regime change wars in the
Middle East is foolish, it's costly, and it is counterproductive
as an anti terrorism strategy. The misadventurism of the Bush
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hears probably created a great deal more terrorists than they vanquished.
I'm old enough to remember the last time Israel coaxed
the United States into a regime change war in the
Middle East. Listen to now Prime Minister bb Netan Yahoo
tell us in two thousand and two that invading Iraq
would be a good choice.
Speaker 6 (01:58):
It's not a question of whether you regime should be
taken out, but when should it be taken out. I
think the choice of Iraq is a good choice. It's
the right choice.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
No, no, actually, it was a terrible decision to invade Iraq,
a terrible decision. This was a point President Trump made brilliantly.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
Obviously, the war in Iraq was a big, fat mistake.
George Bush made a mistake. We can make mistakes but
that one was a beauty. We should have never been
in Iraq. We have destabilized the Middle East. They lied,
they said there were weapons of mass destruction.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
There were none.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
I actually think I'm going to make that speech from
Trump at the debate, like my ring tone when he
calls me. Trump deconstructed the argument that regime change adventurism
made the world safer, and history doesn't exactly vindicate Netsan
Yahu's claims.
Speaker 6 (02:48):
By comparison, if you take out Saddam Saddam's regime, I
guarantee you that it will have enormous positive reverberations on
the region.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
Oh guarantee. What is the nature of the guarantee that
nets and Yaho offered here? Is it a money back guarantee?
Is Israel going to refund the three trillion dollars that
America spent in Iraq? The reality is that BB's guarantees
are bs. They aren't backed by anything other than more
phony claims.
Speaker 6 (03:18):
There is no question whatsoever that Saddam is seeking and
is working and is advancing towards the development of nuclear weapons,
no question whatsoever, And there is no question that once
he acquires it, history shifts immediately.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
Watching these clips that are more than twenty years old,
does it make you feel like the israel foreign policy
seduction of the United States is some sort of regime
change madlib where they just say, like, fill in country here,
probably getting nuclear weapons, Join us in some destabilizing effort.
Netan Yahoo wasn't telling the truth about weapons of mass
destruction in Iraq, and not only did the United States
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bel leave him, we parroted his lies to the world.
Speaker 7 (04:03):
Saddam Mussein is harboring terrorists and the instruments of terror,
the instruments of mass death and destruction, and he cannot
be trusted. The evidence indicates that Iraq is reconstituting its
nuclear weapons program. If the Iraqi regime is able to produce, buy,
or steal an amount of highly enriched uranium a little
larger than a single softball, it could have a nuclear
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weapon in less than a year.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
The regime changed war in Iraq cost our great nation treasure, credibility,
and the blood of our bravest patriots. It resulted in
broken limbs, broken families, and broken minds. It also resulted
in a broken Iraq, which ironically has now become a
vassal state of Wait.
Speaker 8 (04:50):
For it Iran. That's right.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
For those keeping track at home, the last time America
listened to NETANYAHUO based on false claims of weapons of
mass destruction, we ended up pouring cash and blood all
over the sands of Mesopotamia, and in the end it
only made Iran stronger. And now they're trying to get
us into war with Iran. I am not offering a
defense of the Islamic Republic of Iran. As a former
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member of the Congressional Armed Services Committee, I know that
Iran is evil. They attack our troops in Iraq, they
undermine the safety of global shifting, they fund mischief around
the world.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
But regime change in.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
Iran or Iraq, or Afghanistan or Libya or Syria, it
does not result in the eruption of some Jeffersonian democracy
or country that's a new signatory to the Abraham Accords.
The reality is that regime change in the Middle East
often leads to civil war, sectarian violence, and the slaughter
of religious minorities and way more terrorism. That's exactly what
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I'm predicting here.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
Bookmark this.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
The most important tactical development of this war is Israel's
establishment of air superiority over Iran. Israel owns this sky
over Iran. Iran has deployed Russia's best air defense system,
the SAM four hundred. Rather deftly, Massad sabotaged a lot
of those systems on the ground. Some were taken out
by Israel's attacks in October and others have been neutralized in.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
The last few days.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
With Israel free to roam the skies over Iran without
any contest, they can relentlessly prosecute targets on the ground
with limited risk to IDF forces flying those missions. Hear me, Now,
this is not going to stop at some bombing campaigns
around Iran's nuclear program. That's just the appetizer, not the entree.
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Israel is pursuing regime change in Iran. That is the
true goal of this campaign. They're already saying as much.
Just check out this Reuter's report where Israel freely acknowledges
that regime change is on the table and things seem
to have gone well past denuclearization when you're talking about
assass and hitting a foreign leader. Axios is reporting that
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President Trump had to veto Israel's plans to execute the
Supreme Leader of Iran.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
At this stage of the war.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
Israel has already killed off Iran's military leadership, They've aspired
to kill off Komani, and they have established air superiority.
At this pace, the war is probably going to end
in regime change. We're actually rather successful at initially dislodging
a foreign government. It's what comes next that has flummixed
Uncle Sam. Does America really want to be Israel's dance
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partner to this siren song?
Speaker 2 (07:36):
Again?
Speaker 1 (07:37):
Israel's bombing target package will expand, their sorties will increase.
They will systemically kill off enough leadership in Iran to
plunge that nation into civil war and chaos.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
They'll gasify Iran.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
Iraq will likely fall back into chaos and death and
terrorism and war.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
President Trump knows this.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
He's literally the person who taught the Republican Park to
kick our regime change war habit. The neo cons want
another fix, though, and we shouldn't fall for their foolishness again.
Joining us now, GOP Congresswoman from Georgia, Marjorie Taylor Green.
Congresswoman Green, you have been a voice of reason and
America First policy. Tell us how you see this conflict
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between Israel and Iron.
Speaker 9 (08:23):
Matt I see it just as you do, and you
laid that out so well. That's the America First message,
but it's also the truth that the American people have
woken up to. We've watched for decades propaganda news. I'll
call out Fox News and the New York Post. They're
known to be the neocon network news. We have propaganda
news on our side, just like the left does, and
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the American people have been brainwashed into believing that America
has to engage in these foreign wars in order for.
Speaker 10 (08:54):
Us to survive. And it's absolutely not true.
Speaker 9 (08:59):
Prime mister net and who said I saw on video
he said today that America first is America dead, and
that sounds like a threat to me. And I completely
completely disagree with him on that. In order for America
to not be dead, it's to stay America first. And
this is what the American people want. It is not
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anti semitic to say that we do not want to
go to war against Iran or any other country. That
is not anti semitic at all. It's actually rational, it's sane,
and it's loving to people all over the world.
Speaker 10 (09:35):
A Middle Eastern.
Speaker 9 (09:36):
War will will pull America back twenty years, just like
you showed in your intro for your show. It's exactly
the lies that we were told after nine to eleven,
and many people know it's not true.
Speaker 10 (09:50):
So I'm completely opposed to this war.
Speaker 9 (09:53):
Of course, we don't want to see the people in
Israel bombed, but they're only being bombed because is attacked
Iran first.
Speaker 10 (10:02):
And that's the truth that we need to be talking about.
Speaker 9 (10:05):
And Matt, I want to add on one more thing
that I think is incredibly important because Fox News and
all these.
Speaker 10 (10:12):
Other news stations are not talking about it.
Speaker 9 (10:14):
Last week, on Thursday, they held a vote in the
Kanesset and net Yahoo only won by two votes. Because
the polling is showing NFL. If an election was held today,
he would lose. What he's doing is not popular among
the people in Israel. They are tired of war. They
are so devastated after October seventh, but they are tired
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of war. And he that vote happened last Thursday, and
then Friday Israel attacked attacked Iran. That's why the bombs
are falling. And it seems very political. And you and
I have seen those types of things before.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
Are you saying you believe that net and Yahoo is
manifesting this conflict against Iran because he has totic political problems.
Speaker 9 (11:03):
I can't say that for certain, but it seems to
be possibly the case.
Speaker 10 (11:09):
Uh, there's no you know, you know how it is after.
Speaker 9 (11:11):
Nine to eleven the country pulled together behind George Bush
because that's what we were told on the news, and
and and America was so devastated after the horrors of
nine to eleven, and here here we're seeing possibly something
similar over in Israel after the the October seventh attack,
which was I mean, it was just terrible. So many
innocent people were killed, but they have they've been going
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through a war, and they're young. People are dying that
are serving in the military in Israel. They're dying in
the war in Gaza, and many innocent people are being
murdered in Gaza. And it's it's sad. People are fatigued
and tired of it in Israel. But I want to
I want to say it's it's not being reported enough
that on Thursday they held a vote in the Kanesset
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and it was only by two votes Thatt and Yahoo won.
If he had lost, they would have had another election
in Israel. And the polling shows that he would lose
if an election were to occur today. But back to
bombing Iran. Uh, that's the only reason that innocent people
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in Israel are having bombs fall on them and they're
being killed. But there's also innocent people in Iran that
are being killed.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
Everything you say makes so much sense to me. You've
been the voice of the base on a lot of
these issues for some time. How are your Republican colleagues
in Congress reacting to this and should we expect that
they'll be, you know, saying the things you're saying, or
are they going to want to go and do another
big aid package to Israel?
Speaker 9 (12:44):
Well, you know exactly what they're saying. Uh, they're saying
the same things that they've always said. They're they're America
first until they're ready to go off and bomb any
other country and send our men and women in uniform
to go fight because Israel says they have to. So
the message is completely opposite of what we're saying today.
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It's completely opposite of what the campaign said. The campaign
was America First, and it was America first, unapologetically, and
that means something to me because that's what people voted for.
People voted for President Trump for the first time ever
in their lifetime.
Speaker 10 (13:21):
Voting in an election in twenty twenty four.
Speaker 9 (13:24):
They switched parties and voted for President Trump based on
this America First message and ending foreign wars. But Washington,
of course, doesn't get the message from the American people.
And Matt, let me tell you what's going on. I
really wish you were still there with us, because you'd
be fighting this. They see President Trump's presidency as a
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speed bump. They're just playing along and you know, making
sure that he's happy, so they look good for their
constituents back home. But they have a very clear intention
of returning the Republican Party back to the Party of
the neo cons and back to the establishment, the party
of Romney and Mitch McConnell.
Speaker 10 (14:07):
And that's what I'm.
Speaker 5 (14:08):
Seeing base to it more and more.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
You and I both know the base will not tolerate that.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
I mean, if the United States strikes Iran, what will
that do to President Trump's coalition.
Speaker 9 (14:20):
It's going to fracture it. And it's already fracturing it.
We're seeing it all over online. We're seeing it from people.
I just got back from the grocery store. And someone
came up and talked to me about it. And people
are waking up to this. They do you know what
they're thinking about, Matt. They were happy that gas prices
were finally coming down, and they were enjoying the fact
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that gas was affordable again for their summer vacations. But
yet here they're seen on TV that now we've got
to go fight Iran because Israel said so, and because
Israel picked the fight and attack them first. And we're
being threatened that, oh no, if we don't go do this,
we're going to be bombed out of existence. Well, the
truth is, if we get involved in this war, we
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are going to see terror attacks right here on our
homeland because Biden and the Democrats our border open for
the past four years.
Speaker 10 (15:11):
And that's what Americans are talking about. They're sick and.
Speaker 9 (15:14):
Tired of it. They want to have happy lives. They
don't want to hear about politics. They want to be
able to afford food, and they want to be able
to afford gas, and they just want to have fun
for once.
Speaker 10 (15:25):
In their life.
Speaker 9 (15:25):
They want to have fun without Washington telling them they
have something to be afraid of.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
President Trump clearly prefers a deal to war almost anywhere,
that's not even specific to Israel Iran. I think you'd
rather have a deal with Russia and Ukraine. He worked
to get a deal between India and Pakistan. Do you
think a deal with Iran is possible that is enforceable
and that could bring these hostilities to a close.
Speaker 10 (15:51):
You know, I certainly would hope.
Speaker 11 (15:53):
So.
Speaker 9 (15:53):
I don't think the regime that is leading Iran is
I'll agree with you. They are not good guys, do
not treat their people well. But if they have any
intelligence and all, they would make a deal with President Trump,
and he would make a deal with them, because you
know what the Trump administration wants. President Trump in particular,
maybe not everyone around him, but President Trump in particular,
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he wants peace all over the world, and he wants
everybody to make money. And there's nothing wrong with that.
Great trade deals and making money and peace and prosperity
for people all over the world is wonderful.
Speaker 10 (16:29):
And who can't get behind that message?
Speaker 5 (16:31):
A man?
Speaker 1 (16:31):
Final question for you, Congressman, what do you think happens
if the Iranian regime falls?
Speaker 9 (16:38):
I think that we are going to see the poor
people and our brand fall into utter chaos. There will
be different leaders trying to emerge and control that country.
I think it's going to be very dark days ahead,
but I think America will pay a price. They're not
going There's many people over there that will not allow
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America to get away with it anymore. I think that
we've bombed too many countries, and we've bombed too many people,
too many times.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
An ominous warning from Georgia Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Green, thank
you for carrying the torch for the America First movement
on Capitol Hill.
Speaker 10 (17:16):
Yeah, thank you, Matt, I appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
Coming up, we continue our coverage of the ongoing war
between Israel and Iran with Mark Meadows, President Trump's former
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Speaker 10 (19:47):
Have you heard any.
Speaker 9 (19:48):
Signals or seen any messages from intermediaries that Iran wishes
to de escalate the conflict?
Speaker 8 (19:54):
Yeah?
Speaker 10 (19:55):
What what have you heard? What if you heard from
the iridiance.
Speaker 13 (19:58):
I'd like to talk, but they should have done that before.
I had sixty days and they had sixty days, and
on the sixty for his day, we don't have a deal.
Speaker 8 (20:08):
They have to make a deal.
Speaker 13 (20:09):
And it's painful for both parties. But I'd say Iran
is not winning this war and they should talk, and
they should talk immediately before it's too late.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
That was President Trump at the g seventh summit in
Canada today discussing the ongoing war between Israel and Iran.
My sources are telling me that Trump is getting a
barrage of calls from some of his friends who are
trying to shoehorn him into Israel's war. President Trump has
historically been very skeptical of forever wars.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
We wanted to get a.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
Sense of how the president is going to sift through
the decision matrix. And we know somebody who's been by
his side as he's done it in the past joining
us now former North Carolina Congressman, former White House Chief
of Staff, and current senior partner at the Conservative Partnership Institute,
Mark Meadows. So, Mark, a lot of the President's friends
are trying to get him to strike Iran, bring us inside.
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How the President makes a decision like that.
Speaker 14 (21:04):
Well, obviously he's very reluctant to do that, and bravo
to him for being reluctant. Obviously would he would put
together as national security team, of which they've met multiple
times since Iran actually struck Israel and vice versa in
the last forty eight to seventy two hours.
Speaker 5 (21:26):
But here's what we do know.
Speaker 14 (21:28):
Is I don't anticipate the United States getting involved unless
Iran makes the terrible mistake of actually going after US
basis or US interest in the Middle East and making
a direct strike. Even today at the G seven, Donald
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Trump is talking about one last opportunity, perhaps to negotiate
some type of an agreement where they would keep Iran
from having a nuclear weapon. This is even after he's
been gracious with the sixty days. But a lot of
the warhawks are obviously wanting to strike, have a strike
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first mentality. But I would think that a measured Donald
Trump is what we will see in the coming days.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
This isn't even the first time the neocons have tried
to get President Trump into war with Iran. I remember
when they were trying to start a war over a
down to MQ nine Predator drone, and I was thinking,
that's the reason they're drones and not manned aircraft, so
you don't have to go to war over one if
it's knocked out of the sky. What are those conversations typically, like,
what does the president focus on when having to make
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such a consequential decision.
Speaker 14 (22:46):
Well, if you go back to that particular drone strike
that you were talking about, obviously getting.
Speaker 5 (22:53):
Information from those he trust.
Speaker 14 (22:56):
In Congress at that particular time, you and I both
serving in Congress. And yet what he will do is
talk to a number of the people that he trusts,
very implicitly within within his inner circle. But the other
thing that he'll do, Matt is look at at the
potential for uh, the men and women who serve in
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the harm that may come their their way. Ultimately, what
happens is is that he will will take a more
cautious approach when when looking to deploy US assets, particular US.
Speaker 5 (23:32):
Men and women.
Speaker 4 (23:33):
Uh.
Speaker 14 (23:33):
And yet there's a big push for many of us.
I'm pro Israel and and believe that, Ah, you know,
a nuclear Iran is a threat to Israel but also
a threat to the United States that we can't endure.
But does that mean that we go out in an
all uh, you know, all points bulletin in terms of
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deploying assets in a very aggressive and I would say
the answer to that is no. And most of those
around the President will prevail when it comes to that,
as long as Iran is responsible and didn't go after
US military assets.
Speaker 1 (24:12):
And what do you make of the fact that they
haven't yet, right, I mean, in a way it shows
some restraint on the part of Iran that were four
days into this war and they haven't taken kinetic action
against the United States. Do you expect that to continue
given kind of the paradigm you've laid.
Speaker 14 (24:27):
Out, Well, I do think it will continue because we
have access to military weapons that Israel does not have
access to.
Speaker 5 (24:37):
They know that our involvement would.
Speaker 14 (24:41):
Really put an end to any nuclear ambitions they have.
I do want to stress one thing though, Matt. You
and I have had a number of conversations with the
President and the former president when it comes to these
kinds of decisions, he is always willing to avoid.
Speaker 5 (25:00):
War, but he's not afraid to go to war.
Speaker 14 (25:03):
And yet at the same time, what we see here,
Matt is if if Iran were to actually come and
make the dreaded mistake of actually lobbing a few missiles
towards military bases of ours in the region, it would
prompt him to have to respond, and in doing so,
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it would be an end to their nuclear ambition. And
I will say this, They've been negotiating for decades. I'm
not optimistic at all that they ever negotiated in good faith.
That being said, you know, it's a far cry from
making decision to put men and women on from the
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US on soil in Iran, and most Americans would not
be in favor of that.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
President Trump never gives up on a deal.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
I think that's that part of the real estate developer mentality,
which you're very familiar with, is you never fully give
up on the deal. And I think that's probably why
President Trump didn't sign the statement out of the G seven.
He viewed it as something that could get in the
way of a potential deal.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
Do you think a deal can be made with the Iatola?
Speaker 14 (26:13):
Well, I think a deal can be made, whether it's
a deal that should be made. The President is as
a master at that kind of thing. I will say
that for decades now, they've been playing foot seat and
going along and saying that they're going to actually negotiate.
You know, we're talking about fifteen thousand centertrifuges of potentially
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enriched uranium right now. There was a deal on the
table many many years ago that was a couple of thousand,
and so when we start to see it, the deal
continues to get worse. Donald Trump's not going to make
a bad deal, primarily because Ron's not in a position.
They're not in a strong position. They were stronger a
week ago than they are today. And yet he will
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he can strike a deal. I'm hopeful that he does
and that the escalation of the conflict stops. But if
they continue to target uh, you know, US interest in
in in Israel, Uh, it could be problematic as well.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
So let's let's play out the scenario. You've laid down
here that Israel will continue to prosecute this attack or
this this this war with Iran, that Iran you know,
will likely show sufficient restraint to not go after US
forces if that happens. Do you think Israel will stop
just when they they take out a lot of the
nuclear infrastructure or do you think Israel's real goal here
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is regime change, because frankly, I doubt it. I doubt
that they're going to stop. They have total air superiority
over Iran. I think they're just going to bomb until
until they get rid of the government.
Speaker 14 (27:49):
What do you think, Well, obviously a regime change is
something that's been discussed uh At at a number of
different levels, at a number of different times, but it's
very difficult to accomplish, as you know, Matt. And yet
having them stop, I think that the Israeli government is
united in this strike. So both the moderates and the
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more conservative side of the Israeli government have all come together,
primarily because Iran continues to attack civilians in and around
Tel Aviv and some of their major metropolitan areas just
outside of Tel Aviv. But that being said, I don't
see them stopping until the nuclear facilities are so degraded
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and yet, but.
Speaker 2 (28:38):
Will they stop trying? Just real quick, do you think
they stopped?
Speaker 14 (28:40):
You know, I do think that they stop sometimes short
of that, because people will get tired of every night
missiles being shot back and forth.
Speaker 5 (28:50):
So the political reality will be tough.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
Mark Meadow's former chief of staff the President Trump senior
partner of the Conservative Partnership Institute.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
Thanks for all you do, my friend.
Speaker 5 (28:58):
Great to be with you. Take care.
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Coming up, who is funding all of these riots around
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Speaker 1 (31:30):
We continue our coverage of the riots and protests consuming
America's streets as President Trump fulfills his campaign promise to
lead the largest deportation in American history. Mass organization of
people like this does not happen organically.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
A leaderless political left.
Speaker 1 (31:45):
In this country believes that funding chaos and fear and
discord will improve their prospects to regain power. That's what's happening.
A report in Breitbart caught our attention. Seamus Brunner is
an experienced investigator with the Government and Accountability Institute. He's
been digging into the funding networks around Riot Inc. He
has exposed billionaires, dark money groups, and foreign influence in
(32:09):
this thoughtful piece, joining us now vice president and Executive
director at Government Accountability Institute and author of the bestseller
Controller Guarks exposing the billionaire class, their secret deals, and
the globalist plot to dominate your life. Seamus Brunner, So, Seamus,
what have you learned about these groups funding the riots?
Speaker 11 (32:28):
Hey mat great to be with you. So yes.
Speaker 15 (32:31):
The preferred dark money vehicle of the Controller Arks is
something called the Arabella Advisors network has got a bunch
of funds clients of Arabella Advisors, the Windward Fund, New
Venture Fund, and others.
Speaker 11 (32:45):
These are the vehicles through which George.
Speaker 15 (32:47):
Soros, Mark Zuckerberg, Bill Gates and many others pump billions
of dollars to fund left wing causes. Well, we crunched
the numbers and found that one hundred and fourteen point
eight million dollars has flowed from the Arabella Network to
the No Kings protest organizers and official partners.
Speaker 11 (33:08):
That's one hundred and fourteen point.
Speaker 15 (33:09):
Eight million more than enough to help fund these gigantic uprisings.
Speaker 1 (33:15):
Does it seem to you that this is a one
time event or do you expect these funding networks you've
discussed to continue these agitations.
Speaker 11 (33:25):
Certainly not a one time event. I mean it was
kind of a flop.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
It was huge.
Speaker 15 (33:28):
I mean it was huge in the sense that there
were so many events, not a whole lot of not
like BLM certainly of twenty twenty. But the Indivisible Project,
which organizes the No Kings events, they're a professional protest organization.
They were behind the Tesla protest, they were behind something
(33:48):
called the May Day protest.
Speaker 11 (33:50):
The President's Day protest.
Speaker 15 (33:51):
So really, all these guys do is mobilize protests. Some
of them term ugly as you see in LA and
Portland and Seattle. Some of them are totally peaceful in
smaller towns across the country.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
The groups that are coming together to do this, is
there an organizing or animating you know, feature to them,
or is there a person leading this or is this
muscle memory for the violent left?
Speaker 15 (34:19):
Yeah, it's it's absolutely muscle memory. I went and checked
out our local No King's protest in Tallahassee.
Speaker 11 (34:25):
It was mostly, uh, you know, old white.
Speaker 15 (34:28):
Boomers who are looking to relive the glory days of
the sixties.
Speaker 11 (34:32):
Not a lot of violence, not a lot of young
people doing any agitations.
Speaker 15 (34:36):
You look out on the West coast in LA and
you have a lot more young people, a lot more
Antifa types. So it's hard to say, you know which
one is your town is going to have. But if
you've got young violent agitators, you got to look out
for the indivisible protests.
Speaker 1 (34:53):
And the protests seem to be taking on a very
egalitarian nature. Like originally I guess it was the Ice Rays,
but I saw a bunch of Hamas flags out there
and it's Pride month, I guess, so that you've got
to have the rainbow flag or you're some sort of bigot,
So like, what what exactly is driving the people to
attend these Is it still the immigration issue or is
(35:13):
it just sort of general angst?
Speaker 11 (35:17):
It's general angst.
Speaker 15 (35:18):
I mean I saw one sign at our local rally
that said, stop giving us reasons to protest.
Speaker 11 (35:24):
It's exhausting.
Speaker 15 (35:25):
And I would say that that's kind of the theme,
is the left is exhausted. I mean, you've got the
muscle memory, they're you know, suffering from TDS, and so
they show up with nothing better to do. They're looking
for meaning and so you know, there it's it's a
catch all. You know, if you're into LGBTQ trans Pride Month,
you'll bring your pride flag.
Speaker 11 (35:44):
If you're trying to.
Speaker 15 (35:45):
Stop ice rayds, well you might bust in the doors,
as they did in Portland. And so it really depends
on the day of the week and month, which which
you know pet cause of the left, these guys are
going to mobilize for seamous.
Speaker 1 (36:00):
You and Peter Sweiser have really exposed a lot of
the worst things that we've seen from our government. What
are going to be some of the projects you're putting
your time into net and going forward? And how can
people follow your work?
Speaker 11 (36:12):
Yeah, thanks Matt. We are looking into right now.
Speaker 15 (36:15):
I mean we have been tracking because the Inflation Reduction
Act and the other Biden boondoggles, the trillions of dollars
that Biden dumped out.
Speaker 11 (36:23):
That's kind of how we got on the No Kings beat.
Speaker 15 (36:26):
Here was how much taxpayer money is going to fund
left wing causes?
Speaker 11 (36:32):
And when Biden dumps out.
Speaker 15 (36:33):
Trillions of dollars through the Inflation Reduction Act hilariously named
and the others, you know, we want to make sure
that that doesn't end up burning down any cities or
anything like that. And so it takes years for some
of this money to work its way down into the
pockets of the organizers and the protesters. And so we're
going to be following these trillions of dollars that Biden released,
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some of which we're not going to know more about
until twenty twenty seven.
Speaker 1 (36:58):
Seamus Brunner, thank you so much for your investigative reporting
and look forward to continue to follow your great work.
Speaker 11 (37:05):
Thanks Matt.
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Mister Bolter was taken into state custody and our office
intends to pursue first degree murder charges against mister Bolter.
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Speaker 1 (41:03):
In Minnesota, authorities have captured Vance Luther Bolter after an
extensive manhunt on Saturday around two am. Bolter first attacked
Senator John Hoffman and his wife Yvette in their Chaplain home.
They both survived serious injuries. About an hour later, disguised
as a police officer, complete with badge, vest, mask and
(41:24):
using a fake police style vehicle, he went to the
home of former Minnesota House Speaker and current lawmaker Melissa Hortman,
and that was in the Brooklyn Park area. He fatally
shot her and her husband Mark, and then exchanged gunfire
with arriving officers before fleeing in his vehicle's Authorities found
a manifesto and a hit list including about seventy names.
Speaker 2 (41:45):
It was pro.
Speaker 1 (41:46):
Choice advocates, abortion providers, politicians, just terrible stuff. The state
has launched its largest manhunt in history, with FBI getting
involved in a fifty thousand dollars reward. His vehicle was
found about fifty miles away in Sylbey County, along with
a cowboy hat in some of his possessions. Last night,
Bolter was arrested in a wooded area near Green Isle
(42:08):
into Sylby County after a forty eight hour search involved
being hundreds of officers and twenty swat teams. He faces
two counts of second degree murder and two counts of
attempted murder. Joining us now, columnist for a town hall
dot Com Dustin Gregie, Dustin tell us how the picture
is developing in the.
Speaker 2 (42:26):
Story in Minnesota.
Speaker 4 (42:28):
Yeah, great question, Matt.
Speaker 16 (42:29):
So basically, right now they're just kind of going through
the process of how this trial's gonna actually go about.
Speaker 4 (42:37):
So state has already put out.
Speaker 16 (42:40):
Their different charges, which right now it's just second degree murder,
and simply the only reason for that at this point,
for my understanding, is that they actually have to indict
the man, and then from there they can increase these
charges like first degree murder and so on and so forth.
But the much bigger development today is that the Feds
(43:01):
are actually going to be doing their own investigation and
own charges in this case, which greatly.
Speaker 4 (43:07):
Opens the door.
Speaker 16 (43:08):
I had made it kind of a joke the other day,
but I was mostly serious that we could make the
death penalty a bipartisan issue in the state of Minnesota.
Currently it's not the law of the land, and the state.
It's not like Florida in that manner.
Speaker 4 (43:22):
But being that this.
Speaker 16 (43:25):
Is going to come on federal charges as well, that
now opens the door to have the death penalty in
this scenario, which has been a huge significant part of this.
But right now we basically are just seeing criminal complaints,
so just kind of the general sketch of the timeline
of what has actually occurred to this point. And now
I believe on the twenty seventh they're going to be
(43:48):
meeting again to actually go over a trial to actually
lay out how that process looks. But in the meantime,
the individual suspect at hand is now in federal prison
at this time, being held on a five million dollar bail.
Speaker 4 (44:05):
Which is just kind of what I'm told.
Speaker 16 (44:10):
Just a general thing like everyone in the state of
Minnesota has to be offered bail. There's not just simply
no bail options. But that's quickly getting closed here now
that it's going to the Feds, which I think has
been the initial thing here, So now he can't get
on bail now that it's being handed over to them.
Speaker 1 (44:27):
You're right, in Florida, the death penalty is pretty popular.
We take the position that only God can judge, but
we can help set up the meeting. In this case,
what do we know about the person who committed these
heinous acts?
Speaker 4 (44:42):
Good question.
Speaker 16 (44:44):
Honestly, there's so much out there that's mixed around. I've
heard every single theory under the sun, and you know,
all of those options are honestly still on the table.
There's still a full investigation to be coming out of this.
But at the end of the day, what I think
in how I'm perceiving this is he only targeted Democrats.
(45:06):
While initially when honestly, when this news broke right out
of the gate, I had one of my contacts contact me.
I was like on a run at six thirty in
the morning when this all started hitting. He's like, you
got to jump on Twitter right now, and I was like, no,
I'm on a run. I can't tell me what it is.
And he tells me that Melissa Hortman has been shot.
My brain instantly went to, well, we just got a
(45:28):
special session this week and she was the lone Democrat
to vote to strip healthcare from illegal immigrants.
Speaker 4 (45:34):
Maybe that's what this is about. Very good theory I
out of the gate.
Speaker 16 (45:38):
However, the other individual who was targeted and this was
John Hoffman, who voted the exact opposite in the Senate,
So that's where that theory kind of falls apart a
little bit.
Speaker 4 (45:47):
But at the end of the day, I do think
this is, you.
Speaker 16 (45:50):
Know, someone who identified as a Republican, Now should republic
do any I haven't met a single Republican who actually
like endorses.
Speaker 4 (45:56):
What this guy did.
Speaker 16 (45:58):
In fact, the only bridge to the guy unlike the left,
where I mean Luigi is the patron saint right now
for the left. So that is the massive difference here
between the right and the left. I think we have
to acknowledge that, Yeah, this guy probably is going to
end up coming out having been identifying himself as a Republican. However,
Republicans are going to reject him. We're not going to
(46:19):
treat him like Luigi who murderer. Also another Minnesota man
by the name of John Thompson who is a United
Healthcare CEO here in the state of Minnesota.
Speaker 4 (46:29):
Only about twenty five minutes down the road from where
I live.
Speaker 16 (46:31):
So it's incredible how Minnesota has just kind of become
this central hub for all this violence. Unfortunately, but that
is kind of the reality we're dealing with here.
Speaker 1 (46:41):
It is so sad to see, and we do reject
political violence in any form. Politics is supposed to be
a substitution for violence. We should be able to debate
our ideas and run an elections without the fear that
someone could, you know, attack and assassinate and engage in
these just tear terrible crimes. You're familiar with Minnesota, Dustin,
(47:04):
tell us a little bit about the victims here. What
type of political profile did they have in the state,
and what was the defining characteristic of their service or
their approach to public service.
Speaker 16 (47:17):
Yeah, and I'll honesty, I don't know too much about
John Hoffman. I learned a lot more this week in
general about him, and a lot of the focus is
honestly ben on Melissa Hartman. Which I could say about
Melissa like she was a bleeding heart liberal, But at
the end of the day, she did a very very
(47:38):
hard thing and did the right thing in my opinion,
when she actually came to the table when we had
a split legislature here and said, hey, this is something
that our side's going to have.
Speaker 4 (47:49):
To deal with.
Speaker 16 (47:50):
She was the lone Democrat in the state House that
voted to strip illegals from their healthcare benefits here in Minnesota.
At the end of the day, Hey, I disagreed with
her on just about everything under the sun. But she
ended up coming to the table here and she was
extremely respectful while members of her caucus were banging on
(48:12):
the governor's door during a press conference when he announced that, Hey, yes,
this is the agreement.
Speaker 4 (48:18):
We came to. Tim Wallas came to this agreement. It
was that conclusive.
Speaker 16 (48:22):
But their caucus was bane on the door and throwing
up their hands and attacking federal agents in some cases
for their Democrat activists in Minneapolis the week prior to that, no,
the weeks after that at that point with the bane
on the door, but they were attacking federal agents. One
of their activists ended up getting actually detained for kicking
(48:43):
and punching a federal agent during a drug and human
trafficking bus, which Ice was involved with. So that's kind
of the craziness that we're dealing with here in Minnesota.
But Melissa Hortman an honorable individual who did the right
thing when all of that craziness was pushing against her.
So you have to appreciate what she was able to
(49:06):
do there. Even when you see those disagreements.
Speaker 1 (49:09):
We saw an emotional response from Minnesota Senator Amy Klobashar
talking about the children of the slain having to endure
a Father's Day with no father and no mother. Governor
Waltz has also made statements, how have you observed the
bipartisan reaction out of Minnesota to this violence.
Speaker 16 (49:28):
Honestly, it's been quite incredible. My favorite state representative, Walter
Hudson here in Minnesota. He's a Republican, prelivery oriented guy,
normally just always attacking the left and they're always attacking him.
He made a comment this week where hey, you know,
I'm getting people attacking me from both sides.
Speaker 4 (49:47):
And I've never retweeted a Democrat probably.
Speaker 16 (49:50):
In my entire life, but I've done it dozens of
times now this week because there is this coalition of
coming together to try to lower the temperature a little bit,
and which I think is good. This is a good
thing that is coming out of this. Obviously a terrible,
terrible tragy, but hopefully we learned something out of this,
because just me looking at and honestly, I have a
(50:11):
little bit of a personal experience with this, Like many
on the show are familiar.
Speaker 4 (50:16):
With the swatted.
Speaker 16 (50:17):
I was one of them, unfortunately, but as kind of
the lone Minnesota guy, where you know, a lot of
them are from around the country in North Carolina, Texas,
so and so forth. I'm just kind of the lone
guy up here in the Midwest who got it. I'm
familiar with it. I had a swat team come to
my home and try to attempt murder on me and
(50:38):
my family by proxy. I think just our family loans
had over thirty of those pizza deliveries sent to us
throughout this process. Some of them have had hundreds in
some cases on the worst case, like Gunther, who's probably
had the worst brunt of.
Speaker 4 (50:52):
All of this.
Speaker 16 (50:53):
But you kind of see all of this and you
look at the rhetoric from Democrats, which I'm gonna be
nice to him for a little bit here, and I'm
gonna give him a chance to, you know, kind of
fix his language here a little bit. But Tim Walls,
who we're all familiar with, was the central part of.
Speaker 4 (51:12):
A lot of this rhetoric.
Speaker 16 (51:13):
I mean, we saw in the presidential cycle when he
was Ryan's vice president before he became the nominee, for
weeks before he came the nominee. He basically said, well, Trumps,
I want to be dictator. Well then Trump gets shot
on stage and then we're like, oh, whoa, let's lower attentions.
And then the next week he just keeps going. And
(51:34):
now we're at Nazi rallies and he's a dictator and
you know, down to today where law enforcement are now
his personal gestapo. So like, you look at some of
this stuff and you're like, this has to stop.
Speaker 5 (51:47):
Now.
Speaker 16 (51:47):
I haven't seen him do it since I'm gonna give
him some credit here for at least in the small meantime,
but the moment he slips up, and I do think
he will because we've seen this story before, and I
hope he learns his lesson throughout this, but you know,
we'll just kind of see how that ends up playing
out here.
Speaker 4 (52:05):
And hopefully this is kind.
Speaker 16 (52:08):
Of like World War Two in the sense of like
the war that ends all wars and we don't have
to come back here again. Sure, hopefully we can stop
calling the president a Nazi and stopped attempts on his
life and so on and so forth, because this has
been a huge problem mostly with Lectus throughout the past
six you know, six to twelve months now more recently,
(52:29):
I do think this was a Republican But.
Speaker 4 (52:31):
At the end of the day, this has to stop
on both sides.
Speaker 2 (52:34):
There's no question about it.
Speaker 1 (52:35):
There's no equivocating, there's no cheering when there's harm to
the other side.
Speaker 2 (52:39):
You pointed out.
Speaker 1 (52:40):
That it's we view it as very corrosive to society
when we see the celebration of figures like Luigi Mangioni,
we do learn a lot about leaders in times of
crisis and where others are grieving, because it gives presidents, governors,
mayors the opportunity to show their bedside in or for
(53:00):
a community that's going through something, or a state going
through something. As we're watching Governor Waltz here and his
own oscillations on calls for or just this crazy rhetoric.
Are the people of Minnesota planning on him running for president?
Do you really think this is a guy who after
getting a taste of the national political stage maybe once
(53:21):
a little more in twenty twenty.
Speaker 4 (53:22):
Eight, Well, and this has kind of been my climb
to fame.
Speaker 16 (53:27):
I guess if you want to say that has been
outlining the timeline of Tim Walls, and I just can't
say that this has been something he's been wanting to
do for decades. Really, this has kind of been his
final goal. It's been on a track, and now he's
on the track. And Yeah, I do believe he's going
to run in twenty twenty eight. There's no question about that.
More of the question is will he run for governor
(53:49):
in twenty twenty six, which is still up in the air.
I do think he's going to do it. He had
a little bit of favorable pulling coming out here, so
you might think he's going to be in a good
enough position to just sweak by and be able to
hold a position to actually kind of rebrand himself a
little bit going twenty twenty eight. But yeah, he's definitely
intending on doing it. There's no question about that. It's
(54:10):
not really, you know, a minor thing to be pushed around.
He's pretty eloquent in saying this behind closed doors, and
he's not even that great at publicly saying no, I'm.
Speaker 8 (54:21):
Not going to do it.
Speaker 4 (54:22):
So do you think he'll be there? Tim Memes will continue.
Speaker 1 (54:27):
Well, Dustin, We are excited for your continued coverage of
all the political matchinations in Minnesota and certainly the governor there.
How can folks continue to follow your work?
Speaker 16 (54:37):
Oh, you can follow me on Twitter at greg E,
Dustin g r A g E d U s t
I N. Also, we're going to be putting up some
more columns here in the next week.
Speaker 4 (54:45):
On town hall dot com.
Speaker 16 (54:47):
And if you also want to just subscribe to my newsletter,
which we're going to start putting out more frequently, that's
at Dustin Gregy dot com. That's just my name, d
U s t A N g R A g dot com.
And yeah, appreciate you guys support, and we'll keep reporting
on all this and hopefully some sanity comes.
Speaker 4 (55:04):
On of it at the end of the day.
Speaker 2 (55:05):
Dustin GREGI, thanks as always for joining us.
Speaker 4 (55:09):
Thank you Matt.
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Let's go get them
We are in day four of the war between Israel
and Iran. Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Green doesn't believe America should
enter that war. She joins me at the top of
the show. Plus, how is President Trump processing the competing
arguments for and against US involvement in another Middle East
regime change war. His former chief of staff, former Congressman
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Mark Meadows, joins me to get inside the commander in
chiefs thinking. A new Breitbart report has the funders of
the No Kings riots exposed, and we will cover the
tragedy in Minnesota where lawmakers were attacked, targeted, one even killed.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
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this shaking up Washington, d C. We're breaking the fever.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
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Speaker 4 (00:44):
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Speaker 5 (00:46):
He's great Matt Gates.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
Tonight, President Trump is in hot pursuit of peace. He
is working to de escalate the war between Israel and Iran.
Certain President Trump does not want to entangle the United
States in this conflict needlessly. Many of President Trump's pro
Israel friends and advisors are trying to pressure and convince
him that the United States should join airstrikes against Iran
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on this program. We strongly disagree with that assessment and
that Advice President Trump should reject it. So far, President
Trump has wisely resisted the pressure. President Trump knows that
the Bush era doctrine of regime change wars in the
Middle East is foolish, it's costly, and it is counterproductive
as an anti terrorism strategy. The misadventurism of the Bush
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hears probably created a great deal more terrorists than they vanquished.
I'm old enough to remember the last time Israel coaxed
the United States into a regime change war in the
Middle East. Listen to now Prime Minister bb Netan Yahoo
tell us in two thousand and two that invading Iraq
would be a good choice.
Speaker 6 (01:58):
It's not a question of whether you regime should be
taken out, but when should it be taken out. I
think the choice of Iraq is a good choice. It's
the right choice.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
No, no, actually, it was a terrible decision to invade Iraq,
a terrible decision. This was a point President Trump made brilliantly.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
Obviously, the war in Iraq was a big, fat mistake.
George Bush made a mistake. We can make mistakes but
that one was a beauty. We should have never been
in Iraq. We have destabilized the Middle East. They lied,
they said there were weapons of mass destruction.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
There were none.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
I actually think I'm going to make that speech from
Trump at the debate, like my ring tone when he
calls me. Trump deconstructed the argument that regime change adventurism
made the world safer, and history doesn't exactly vindicate Netsan
Yahu's claims.
Speaker 6 (02:48):
By comparison, if you take out Saddam Saddam's regime, I
guarantee you that it will have enormous positive reverberations on
the region.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
Oh guarantee. What is the nature of the guarantee that
nets and Yaho offered here? Is it a money back guarantee?
Is Israel going to refund the three trillion dollars that
America spent in Iraq? The reality is that BB's guarantees
are bs. They aren't backed by anything other than more
phony claims.
Speaker 6 (03:18):
There is no question whatsoever that Saddam is seeking and
is working and is advancing towards the development of nuclear weapons,
no question whatsoever, And there is no question that once
he acquires it, history shifts immediately.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
Watching these clips that are more than twenty years old,
does it make you feel like the israel foreign policy
seduction of the United States is some sort of regime
change madlib where they just say, like, fill in country here,
probably getting nuclear weapons, Join us in some destabilizing effort.
Netan Yahoo wasn't telling the truth about weapons of mass
destruction in Iraq, and not only did the United States
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bel leave him, we parroted his lies to the world.
Speaker 7 (04:03):
Saddam Mussein is harboring terrorists and the instruments of terror,
the instruments of mass death and destruction, and he cannot
be trusted. The evidence indicates that Iraq is reconstituting its
nuclear weapons program. If the Iraqi regime is able to produce, buy,
or steal an amount of highly enriched uranium a little
larger than a single softball, it could have a nuclear
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weapon in less than a year.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
The regime changed war in Iraq cost our great nation treasure, credibility,
and the blood of our bravest patriots. It resulted in
broken limbs, broken families, and broken minds. It also resulted
in a broken Iraq, which ironically has now become a
vassal state of Wait.
Speaker 8 (04:50):
For it Iran. That's right.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
For those keeping track at home, the last time America
listened to NETANYAHUO based on false claims of weapons of
mass destruction, we ended up pouring cash and blood all
over the sands of Mesopotamia, and in the end it
only made Iran stronger. And now they're trying to get
us into war with Iran. I am not offering a
defense of the Islamic Republic of Iran. As a former
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member of the Congressional Armed Services Committee, I know that
Iran is evil. They attack our troops in Iraq, they
undermine the safety of global shifting, they fund mischief around
the world.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
But regime change in.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
Iran or Iraq, or Afghanistan or Libya or Syria, it
does not result in the eruption of some Jeffersonian democracy
or country that's a new signatory to the Abraham Accords.
The reality is that regime change in the Middle East
often leads to civil war, sectarian violence, and the slaughter
of religious minorities and way more terrorism. That's exactly what
(05:48):
I'm predicting here.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
Bookmark this.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
The most important tactical development of this war is Israel's
establishment of air superiority over Iran. Israel owns this sky
over Iran. Iran has deployed Russia's best air defense system,
the SAM four hundred. Rather deftly, Massad sabotaged a lot
of those systems on the ground. Some were taken out
by Israel's attacks in October and others have been neutralized in.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
The last few days.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
With Israel free to roam the skies over Iran without
any contest, they can relentlessly prosecute targets on the ground
with limited risk to IDF forces flying those missions. Hear me, Now,
this is not going to stop at some bombing campaigns
around Iran's nuclear program. That's just the appetizer, not the entree.
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Israel is pursuing regime change in Iran. That is the
true goal of this campaign. They're already saying as much.
Just check out this Reuter's report where Israel freely acknowledges
that regime change is on the table and things seem
to have gone well past denuclearization when you're talking about
assass and hitting a foreign leader. Axios is reporting that
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President Trump had to veto Israel's plans to execute the
Supreme Leader of Iran.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
At this stage of the war.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
Israel has already killed off Iran's military leadership, They've aspired
to kill off Komani, and they have established air superiority.
At this pace, the war is probably going to end
in regime change. We're actually rather successful at initially dislodging
a foreign government. It's what comes next that has flummixed
Uncle Sam. Does America really want to be Israel's dance
(07:34):
partner to this siren song?
Speaker 2 (07:36):
Again?
Speaker 1 (07:37):
Israel's bombing target package will expand, their sorties will increase.
They will systemically kill off enough leadership in Iran to
plunge that nation into civil war and chaos.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
They'll gasify Iran.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
Iraq will likely fall back into chaos and death and
terrorism and war.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
President Trump knows this.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
He's literally the person who taught the Republican Park to
kick our regime change war habit. The neo cons want
another fix, though, and we shouldn't fall for their foolishness again.
Joining us now, GOP Congresswoman from Georgia, Marjorie Taylor Green.
Congresswoman Green, you have been a voice of reason and
America First policy. Tell us how you see this conflict
(08:20):
between Israel and Iron.
Speaker 9 (08:23):
Matt I see it just as you do, and you
laid that out so well. That's the America First message,
but it's also the truth that the American people have
woken up to. We've watched for decades propaganda news. I'll
call out Fox News and the New York Post. They're
known to be the neocon network news. We have propaganda
news on our side, just like the left does, and
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the American people have been brainwashed into believing that America
has to engage in these foreign wars in order for.
Speaker 10 (08:54):
Us to survive. And it's absolutely not true.
Speaker 9 (08:59):
Prime mister net and who said I saw on video
he said today that America first is America dead, and
that sounds like a threat to me. And I completely
completely disagree with him on that. In order for America
to not be dead, it's to stay America first. And
this is what the American people want. It is not
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anti semitic to say that we do not want to
go to war against Iran or any other country. That
is not anti semitic at all. It's actually rational, it's sane,
and it's loving to people all over the world.
Speaker 10 (09:35):
A Middle Eastern.
Speaker 9 (09:36):
War will will pull America back twenty years, just like
you showed in your intro for your show. It's exactly
the lies that we were told after nine to eleven,
and many people know it's not true.
Speaker 10 (09:50):
So I'm completely opposed to this war.
Speaker 9 (09:53):
Of course, we don't want to see the people in
Israel bombed, but they're only being bombed because is attacked
Iran first.
Speaker 10 (10:02):
And that's the truth that we need to be talking about.
Speaker 9 (10:05):
And Matt, I want to add on one more thing
that I think is incredibly important because Fox News and
all these.
Speaker 10 (10:12):
Other news stations are not talking about it.
Speaker 9 (10:14):
Last week, on Thursday, they held a vote in the
Kanesset and net Yahoo only won by two votes. Because
the polling is showing NFL. If an election was held today,
he would lose. What he's doing is not popular among
the people in Israel. They are tired of war. They
are so devastated after October seventh, but they are tired
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of war. And he that vote happened last Thursday, and
then Friday Israel attacked attacked Iran. That's why the bombs
are falling. And it seems very political. And you and
I have seen those types of things before.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
Are you saying you believe that net and Yahoo is
manifesting this conflict against Iran because he has totic political problems.
Speaker 9 (11:03):
I can't say that for certain, but it seems to
be possibly the case.
Speaker 10 (11:09):
Uh, there's no you know, you know how it is after.
Speaker 9 (11:11):
Nine to eleven the country pulled together behind George Bush
because that's what we were told on the news, and
and and America was so devastated after the horrors of
nine to eleven, and here here we're seeing possibly something
similar over in Israel after the the October seventh attack,
which was I mean, it was just terrible. So many
innocent people were killed, but they have they've been going
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through a war, and they're young. People are dying that
are serving in the military in Israel. They're dying in
the war in Gaza, and many innocent people are being
murdered in Gaza. And it's it's sad. People are fatigued
and tired of it in Israel. But I want to
I want to say it's it's not being reported enough
that on Thursday they held a vote in the Kanesset
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and it was only by two votes Thatt and Yahoo won.
If he had lost, they would have had another election
in Israel. And the polling shows that he would lose
if an election were to occur today. But back to
bombing Iran. Uh, that's the only reason that innocent people
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in Israel are having bombs fall on them and they're
being killed. But there's also innocent people in Iran that
are being killed.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
Everything you say makes so much sense to me. You've
been the voice of the base on a lot of
these issues for some time. How are your Republican colleagues
in Congress reacting to this and should we expect that
they'll be, you know, saying the things you're saying, or
are they going to want to go and do another
big aid package to Israel?
Speaker 9 (12:44):
Well, you know exactly what they're saying. Uh, they're saying
the same things that they've always said. They're they're America
first until they're ready to go off and bomb any
other country and send our men and women in uniform
to go fight because Israel says they have to. So
the message is completely opposite of what we're saying today.
(13:05):
It's completely opposite of what the campaign said. The campaign
was America First, and it was America first, unapologetically, and
that means something to me because that's what people voted for.
People voted for President Trump for the first time ever
in their lifetime.
Speaker 10 (13:21):
Voting in an election in twenty twenty four.
Speaker 9 (13:24):
They switched parties and voted for President Trump based on
this America First message and ending foreign wars. But Washington,
of course, doesn't get the message from the American people.
And Matt, let me tell you what's going on. I
really wish you were still there with us, because you'd
be fighting this. They see President Trump's presidency as a
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speed bump. They're just playing along and you know, making
sure that he's happy, so they look good for their
constituents back home. But they have a very clear intention
of returning the Republican Party back to the Party of
the neo cons and back to the establishment, the party
of Romney and Mitch McConnell.
Speaker 10 (14:07):
And that's what I'm.
Speaker 5 (14:08):
Seeing base to it more and more.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
You and I both know the base will not tolerate that.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
I mean, if the United States strikes Iran, what will
that do to President Trump's coalition.
Speaker 9 (14:20):
It's going to fracture it. And it's already fracturing it.
We're seeing it all over online. We're seeing it from people.
I just got back from the grocery store. And someone
came up and talked to me about it. And people
are waking up to this. They do you know what
they're thinking about, Matt. They were happy that gas prices
were finally coming down, and they were enjoying the fact
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that gas was affordable again for their summer vacations. But
yet here they're seen on TV that now we've got
to go fight Iran because Israel said so, and because
Israel picked the fight and attack them first. And we're
being threatened that, oh no, if we don't go do this,
we're going to be bombed out of existence. Well, the
truth is, if we get involved in this war, we
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are going to see terror attacks right here on our
homeland because Biden and the Democrats our border open for
the past four years.
Speaker 10 (15:11):
And that's what Americans are talking about. They're sick and.
Speaker 9 (15:14):
Tired of it. They want to have happy lives. They
don't want to hear about politics. They want to be
able to afford food, and they want to be able
to afford gas, and they just want to have fun
for once.
Speaker 10 (15:25):
In their life.
Speaker 9 (15:25):
They want to have fun without Washington telling them they
have something to be afraid of.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
President Trump clearly prefers a deal to war almost anywhere,
that's not even specific to Israel Iran. I think you'd
rather have a deal with Russia and Ukraine. He worked
to get a deal between India and Pakistan. Do you
think a deal with Iran is possible that is enforceable
and that could bring these hostilities to a close.
Speaker 10 (15:51):
You know, I certainly would hope.
Speaker 11 (15:53):
So.
Speaker 9 (15:53):
I don't think the regime that is leading Iran is
I'll agree with you. They are not good guys, do
not treat their people well. But if they have any
intelligence and all, they would make a deal with President Trump,
and he would make a deal with them, because you
know what the Trump administration wants. President Trump in particular,
maybe not everyone around him, but President Trump in particular,
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he wants peace all over the world, and he wants
everybody to make money. And there's nothing wrong with that.
Great trade deals and making money and peace and prosperity
for people all over the world is wonderful.
Speaker 10 (16:29):
And who can't get behind that message?
Speaker 5 (16:31):
A man?
Speaker 1 (16:31):
Final question for you, Congressman, what do you think happens
if the Iranian regime falls?
Speaker 9 (16:38):
I think that we are going to see the poor
people and our brand fall into utter chaos. There will
be different leaders trying to emerge and control that country.
I think it's going to be very dark days ahead,
but I think America will pay a price. They're not
going There's many people over there that will not allow
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America to get away with it anymore. I think that
we've bombed too many countries, and we've bombed too many people,
too many times.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
An ominous warning from Georgia Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Green, thank
you for carrying the torch for the America First movement
on Capitol Hill.
Speaker 10 (17:16):
Yeah, thank you, Matt, I appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
Coming up, we continue our coverage of the ongoing war
between Israel and Iran with Mark Meadows, President Trump's former
chief of staff. He'll bring us inside the thinking of
the commander in chief in these trying times. Back in
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Speaker 10 (19:47):
Have you heard any.
Speaker 9 (19:48):
Signals or seen any messages from intermediaries that Iran wishes
to de escalate the conflict?
Speaker 8 (19:54):
Yeah?
Speaker 10 (19:55):
What what have you heard? What if you heard from
the iridiance.
Speaker 13 (19:58):
I'd like to talk, but they should have done that before.
I had sixty days and they had sixty days, and
on the sixty for his day, we don't have a deal.
Speaker 8 (20:08):
They have to make a deal.
Speaker 13 (20:09):
And it's painful for both parties. But I'd say Iran
is not winning this war and they should talk, and
they should talk immediately before it's too late.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
That was President Trump at the g seventh summit in
Canada today discussing the ongoing war between Israel and Iran.
My sources are telling me that Trump is getting a
barrage of calls from some of his friends who are
trying to shoehorn him into Israel's war. President Trump has
historically been very skeptical of forever wars.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
We wanted to get a.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
Sense of how the president is going to sift through
the decision matrix. And we know somebody who's been by
his side as he's done it in the past joining
us now former North Carolina Congressman, former White House Chief
of Staff, and current senior partner at the Conservative Partnership Institute,
Mark Meadows. So, Mark, a lot of the President's friends
are trying to get him to strike Iran, bring us inside.
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How the President makes a decision like that.
Speaker 14 (21:04):
Well, obviously he's very reluctant to do that, and bravo
to him for being reluctant. Obviously would he would put
together as national security team, of which they've met multiple
times since Iran actually struck Israel and vice versa in
the last forty eight to seventy two hours.
Speaker 5 (21:26):
But here's what we do know.
Speaker 14 (21:28):
Is I don't anticipate the United States getting involved unless
Iran makes the terrible mistake of actually going after US
basis or US interest in the Middle East and making
a direct strike. Even today at the G seven, Donald
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Trump is talking about one last opportunity, perhaps to negotiate
some type of an agreement where they would keep Iran
from having a nuclear weapon. This is even after he's
been gracious with the sixty days. But a lot of
the warhawks are obviously wanting to strike, have a strike
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first mentality. But I would think that a measured Donald
Trump is what we will see in the coming days.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
This isn't even the first time the neocons have tried
to get President Trump into war with Iran. I remember
when they were trying to start a war over a
down to MQ nine Predator drone, and I was thinking,
that's the reason they're drones and not manned aircraft, so
you don't have to go to war over one if
it's knocked out of the sky. What are those conversations typically, like,
what does the president focus on when having to make
(22:43):
such a consequential decision.
Speaker 14 (22:46):
Well, if you go back to that particular drone strike
that you were talking about, obviously getting.
Speaker 5 (22:53):
Information from those he trust.
Speaker 14 (22:56):
In Congress at that particular time, you and I both
serving in Congress. And yet what he will do is
talk to a number of the people that he trusts,
very implicitly within within his inner circle. But the other
thing that he'll do, Matt is look at at the
potential for uh, the men and women who serve in
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the harm that may come their their way. Ultimately, what
happens is is that he will will take a more
cautious approach when when looking to deploy US assets, particular US.
Speaker 5 (23:32):
Men and women.
Speaker 4 (23:33):
Uh.
Speaker 14 (23:33):
And yet there's a big push for many of us.
I'm pro Israel and and believe that, Ah, you know,
a nuclear Iran is a threat to Israel but also
a threat to the United States that we can't endure.
But does that mean that we go out in an
all uh, you know, all points bulletin in terms of
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deploying assets in a very aggressive and I would say
the answer to that is no. And most of those
around the President will prevail when it comes to that,
as long as Iran is responsible and didn't go after
US military assets.
Speaker 1 (24:12):
And what do you make of the fact that they
haven't yet, right, I mean, in a way it shows
some restraint on the part of Iran that were four
days into this war and they haven't taken kinetic action
against the United States. Do you expect that to continue
given kind of the paradigm you've laid.
Speaker 14 (24:27):
Out, Well, I do think it will continue because we
have access to military weapons that Israel does not have
access to.
Speaker 5 (24:37):
They know that our involvement would.
Speaker 14 (24:41):
Really put an end to any nuclear ambitions they have.
I do want to stress one thing though, Matt. You
and I have had a number of conversations with the
President and the former president when it comes to these
kinds of decisions, he is always willing to avoid.
Speaker 5 (25:00):
War, but he's not afraid to go to war.
Speaker 14 (25:03):
And yet at the same time, what we see here,
Matt is if if Iran were to actually come and
make the dreaded mistake of actually lobbing a few missiles
towards military bases of ours in the region, it would
prompt him to have to respond, and in doing so,
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it would be an end to their nuclear ambition. And
I will say this, They've been negotiating for decades. I'm
not optimistic at all that they ever negotiated in good faith.
That being said, you know, it's a far cry from
making decision to put men and women on from the
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US on soil in Iran, and most Americans would not
be in favor of that.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
President Trump never gives up on a deal.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
I think that's that part of the real estate developer mentality,
which you're very familiar with, is you never fully give
up on the deal. And I think that's probably why
President Trump didn't sign the statement out of the G seven.
He viewed it as something that could get in the
way of a potential deal.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
Do you think a deal can be made with the Iatola?
Speaker 14 (26:13):
Well, I think a deal can be made, whether it's
a deal that should be made. The President is as
a master at that kind of thing. I will say
that for decades now, they've been playing foot seat and
going along and saying that they're going to actually negotiate.
You know, we're talking about fifteen thousand centertrifuges of potentially
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enriched uranium right now. There was a deal on the
table many many years ago that was a couple of thousand,
and so when we start to see it, the deal
continues to get worse. Donald Trump's not going to make
a bad deal, primarily because Ron's not in a position.
They're not in a strong position. They were stronger a
week ago than they are today. And yet he will
(26:58):
he can strike a deal. I'm hopeful that he does
and that the escalation of the conflict stops. But if
they continue to target uh, you know, US interest in
in in Israel, Uh, it could be problematic as well.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
So let's let's play out the scenario. You've laid down
here that Israel will continue to prosecute this attack or
this this this war with Iran, that Iran you know,
will likely show sufficient restraint to not go after US
forces if that happens. Do you think Israel will stop
just when they they take out a lot of the
nuclear infrastructure or do you think Israel's real goal here
(27:38):
is regime change, because frankly, I doubt it. I doubt
that they're going to stop. They have total air superiority
over Iran. I think they're just going to bomb until
until they get rid of the government.
Speaker 14 (27:49):
What do you think, Well, obviously a regime change is
something that's been discussed uh At at a number of
different levels, at a number of different times, but it's
very difficult to accomplish, as you know, Matt. And yet
having them stop, I think that the Israeli government is
united in this strike. So both the moderates and the
(28:12):
more conservative side of the Israeli government have all come together,
primarily because Iran continues to attack civilians in and around
Tel Aviv and some of their major metropolitan areas just
outside of Tel Aviv. But that being said, I don't
see them stopping until the nuclear facilities are so degraded
(28:36):
and yet, but.
Speaker 2 (28:38):
Will they stop trying? Just real quick, do you think
they stopped?
Speaker 14 (28:40):
You know, I do think that they stop sometimes short
of that, because people will get tired of every night
missiles being shot back and forth.
Speaker 5 (28:50):
So the political reality will be tough.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
Mark Meadow's former chief of staff the President Trump senior
partner of the Conservative Partnership Institute.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
Thanks for all you do, my friend.
Speaker 5 (28:58):
Great to be with you. Take care.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
Coming up, who is funding all of these riots around
the country. We've seen a great report in Breitbart from
Seamus Bruner. He is the vice president and executive director
at the Government Accountability Institute, and he will bring us
all the.
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Speaker 1 (31:30):
We continue our coverage of the riots and protests consuming
America's streets as President Trump fulfills his campaign promise to
lead the largest deportation in American history. Mass organization of
people like this does not happen organically.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
A leaderless political left.
Speaker 1 (31:45):
In this country believes that funding chaos and fear and
discord will improve their prospects to regain power. That's what's happening.
A report in Breitbart caught our attention. Seamus Brunner is
an experienced investigator with the Government and Accountability Institute. He's
been digging into the funding networks around Riot Inc. He
has exposed billionaires, dark money groups, and foreign influence in
(32:09):
this thoughtful piece, joining us now vice president and Executive
director at Government Accountability Institute and author of the bestseller
Controller Guarks exposing the billionaire class, their secret deals, and
the globalist plot to dominate your life. Seamus Brunner, So, Seamus,
what have you learned about these groups funding the riots?
Speaker 11 (32:28):
Hey mat great to be with you. So yes.
Speaker 15 (32:31):
The preferred dark money vehicle of the Controller Arks is
something called the Arabella Advisors network has got a bunch
of funds clients of Arabella Advisors, the Windward Fund, New
Venture Fund, and others.
Speaker 11 (32:45):
These are the vehicles through which George.
Speaker 15 (32:47):
Soros, Mark Zuckerberg, Bill Gates and many others pump billions
of dollars to fund left wing causes. Well, we crunched
the numbers and found that one hundred and fourteen point
eight million dollars has flowed from the Arabella Network to
the No Kings protest organizers and official partners.
Speaker 11 (33:08):
That's one hundred and fourteen point.
Speaker 15 (33:09):
Eight million more than enough to help fund these gigantic uprisings.
Speaker 1 (33:15):
Does it seem to you that this is a one
time event or do you expect these funding networks you've
discussed to continue these agitations.
Speaker 11 (33:25):
Certainly not a one time event. I mean it was
kind of a flop.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
It was huge.
Speaker 15 (33:28):
I mean it was huge in the sense that there
were so many events, not a whole lot of not
like BLM certainly of twenty twenty. But the Indivisible Project,
which organizes the No Kings events, they're a professional protest organization.
They were behind the Tesla protest, they were behind something
(33:48):
called the May Day protest.
Speaker 11 (33:50):
The President's Day protest.
Speaker 15 (33:51):
So really, all these guys do is mobilize protests. Some
of them term ugly as you see in LA and
Portland and Seattle. Some of them are totally peaceful in
smaller towns across the country.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
The groups that are coming together to do this, is
there an organizing or animating you know, feature to them,
or is there a person leading this or is this
muscle memory for the violent left?
Speaker 15 (34:19):
Yeah, it's it's absolutely muscle memory. I went and checked
out our local No King's protest in Tallahassee.
Speaker 11 (34:25):
It was mostly, uh, you know, old white.
Speaker 15 (34:28):
Boomers who are looking to relive the glory days of
the sixties.
Speaker 11 (34:32):
Not a lot of violence, not a lot of young
people doing any agitations.
Speaker 15 (34:36):
You look out on the West coast in LA and
you have a lot more young people, a lot more
Antifa types. So it's hard to say, you know which
one is your town is going to have. But if
you've got young violent agitators, you got to look out
for the indivisible protests.
Speaker 1 (34:53):
And the protests seem to be taking on a very
egalitarian nature. Like originally I guess it was the Ice Rays,
but I saw a bunch of Hamas flags out there
and it's Pride month, I guess, so that you've got
to have the rainbow flag or you're some sort of bigot,
So like, what what exactly is driving the people to
attend these Is it still the immigration issue or is
(35:13):
it just sort of general angst?
Speaker 11 (35:17):
It's general angst.
Speaker 15 (35:18):
I mean I saw one sign at our local rally
that said, stop giving us reasons to protest.
Speaker 11 (35:24):
It's exhausting.
Speaker 15 (35:25):
And I would say that that's kind of the theme,
is the left is exhausted. I mean, you've got the
muscle memory, they're you know, suffering from TDS, and so
they show up with nothing better to do. They're looking
for meaning and so you know, there it's it's a
catch all. You know, if you're into LGBTQ trans Pride Month,
you'll bring your pride flag.
Speaker 11 (35:44):
If you're trying to.
Speaker 15 (35:45):
Stop ice rayds, well you might bust in the doors,
as they did in Portland. And so it really depends
on the day of the week and month, which which
you know pet cause of the left, these guys are
going to mobilize for seamous.
Speaker 1 (36:00):
You and Peter Sweiser have really exposed a lot of
the worst things that we've seen from our government. What
are going to be some of the projects you're putting
your time into net and going forward? And how can
people follow your work?
Speaker 11 (36:12):
Yeah, thanks Matt. We are looking into right now.
Speaker 15 (36:15):
I mean we have been tracking because the Inflation Reduction
Act and the other Biden boondoggles, the trillions of dollars
that Biden dumped out.
Speaker 11 (36:23):
That's kind of how we got on the No Kings beat.
Speaker 15 (36:26):
Here was how much taxpayer money is going to fund
left wing causes?
Speaker 11 (36:32):
And when Biden dumps out.
Speaker 15 (36:33):
Trillions of dollars through the Inflation Reduction Act hilariously named
and the others, you know, we want to make sure
that that doesn't end up burning down any cities or
anything like that. And so it takes years for some
of this money to work its way down into the
pockets of the organizers and the protesters. And so we're
going to be following these trillions of dollars that Biden released,
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some of which we're not going to know more about
until twenty twenty seven.
Speaker 1 (36:58):
Seamus Brunner, thank you so much for your investigative reporting
and look forward to continue to follow your great work.
Speaker 11 (37:05):
Thanks Matt.
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Speaker 16 (40:47):
Mister Bolter was taken into state custody and our office
intends to pursue first degree murder charges against mister Bolter.
Speaker 9 (40:55):
These violin acts strike at the heart of our democracy
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Speaker 1 (41:03):
In Minnesota, authorities have captured Vance Luther Bolter after an
extensive manhunt on Saturday around two am. Bolter first attacked
Senator John Hoffman and his wife Yvette in their Chaplain home.
They both survived serious injuries. About an hour later, disguised
as a police officer, complete with badge, vest, mask and
(41:24):
using a fake police style vehicle, he went to the
home of former Minnesota House Speaker and current lawmaker Melissa Hortman,
and that was in the Brooklyn Park area. He fatally
shot her and her husband Mark, and then exchanged gunfire
with arriving officers before fleeing in his vehicle's Authorities found
a manifesto and a hit list including about seventy names.
Speaker 2 (41:45):
It was pro.
Speaker 1 (41:46):
Choice advocates, abortion providers, politicians, just terrible stuff. The state
has launched its largest manhunt in history, with FBI getting
involved in a fifty thousand dollars reward. His vehicle was
found about fifty miles away in Sylbey County, along with
a cowboy hat in some of his possessions. Last night,
Bolter was arrested in a wooded area near Green Isle
(42:08):
into Sylby County after a forty eight hour search involved
being hundreds of officers and twenty swat teams. He faces
two counts of second degree murder and two counts of
attempted murder. Joining us now, columnist for a town hall
dot Com Dustin Gregie, Dustin tell us how the picture
is developing in the.
Speaker 2 (42:26):
Story in Minnesota.
Speaker 4 (42:28):
Yeah, great question, Matt.
Speaker 16 (42:29):
So basically, right now they're just kind of going through
the process of how this trial's gonna actually go about.
Speaker 4 (42:37):
So state has already put out.
Speaker 16 (42:40):
Their different charges, which right now it's just second degree murder,
and simply the only reason for that at this point,
for my understanding, is that they actually have to indict
the man, and then from there they can increase these
charges like first degree murder and so on and so forth.
But the much bigger development today is that the Feds
(43:01):
are actually going to be doing their own investigation and
own charges in this case, which greatly.
Speaker 4 (43:07):
Opens the door.
Speaker 16 (43:08):
I had made it kind of a joke the other day,
but I was mostly serious that we could make the
death penalty a bipartisan issue in the state of Minnesota.
Currently it's not the law of the land, and the state.
It's not like Florida in that manner.
Speaker 4 (43:22):
But being that this.
Speaker 16 (43:25):
Is going to come on federal charges as well, that
now opens the door to have the death penalty in
this scenario, which has been a huge significant part of this.
But right now we basically are just seeing criminal complaints,
so just kind of the general sketch of the timeline
of what has actually occurred to this point. And now
I believe on the twenty seventh they're going to be
(43:48):
meeting again to actually go over a trial to actually
lay out how that process looks. But in the meantime,
the individual suspect at hand is now in federal prison
at this time, being held on a five million dollar bail.
Speaker 4 (44:05):
Which is just kind of what I'm told.
Speaker 16 (44:10):
Just a general thing like everyone in the state of
Minnesota has to be offered bail. There's not just simply
no bail options. But that's quickly getting closed here now
that it's going to the Feds, which I think has
been the initial thing here, So now he can't get
on bail now that it's being handed over to them.
Speaker 1 (44:27):
You're right, in Florida, the death penalty is pretty popular.
We take the position that only God can judge, but
we can help set up the meeting. In this case,
what do we know about the person who committed these
heinous acts?
Speaker 4 (44:42):
Good question.
Speaker 16 (44:44):
Honestly, there's so much out there that's mixed around. I've
heard every single theory under the sun, and you know,
all of those options are honestly still on the table.
There's still a full investigation to be coming out of this.
But at the end of the day, what I think
in how I'm perceiving this is he only targeted Democrats.
(45:06):
While initially when honestly, when this news broke right out
of the gate, I had one of my contacts contact me.
I was like on a run at six thirty in
the morning when this all started hitting. He's like, you
got to jump on Twitter right now, and I was like, no,
I'm on a run. I can't tell me what it is.
And he tells me that Melissa Hortman has been shot.
My brain instantly went to, well, we just got a
(45:28):
special session this week and she was the lone Democrat
to vote to strip healthcare from illegal immigrants.
Speaker 4 (45:34):
Maybe that's what this is about. Very good theory I
out of the gate.
Speaker 16 (45:38):
However, the other individual who was targeted and this was
John Hoffman, who voted the exact opposite in the Senate,
So that's where that theory kind of falls apart a
little bit.
Speaker 4 (45:47):
But at the end of the day, I do think
this is, you.
Speaker 16 (45:50):
Know, someone who identified as a Republican, Now should republic
do any I haven't met a single Republican who actually
like endorses.
Speaker 4 (45:56):
What this guy did.
Speaker 16 (45:58):
In fact, the only bridge to the guy unlike the left,
where I mean Luigi is the patron saint right now
for the left. So that is the massive difference here
between the right and the left. I think we have
to acknowledge that, Yeah, this guy probably is going to
end up coming out having been identifying himself as a Republican. However,
Republicans are going to reject him. We're not going to
(46:19):
treat him like Luigi who murderer. Also another Minnesota man
by the name of John Thompson who is a United
Healthcare CEO here in the state of Minnesota.
Speaker 4 (46:29):
Only about twenty five minutes down the road from where
I live.
Speaker 16 (46:31):
So it's incredible how Minnesota has just kind of become
this central hub for all this violence. Unfortunately, but that
is kind of the reality we're dealing with here.
Speaker 1 (46:41):
It is so sad to see, and we do reject
political violence in any form. Politics is supposed to be
a substitution for violence. We should be able to debate
our ideas and run an elections without the fear that
someone could, you know, attack and assassinate and engage in
these just tear terrible crimes. You're familiar with Minnesota, Dustin,
(47:04):
tell us a little bit about the victims here. What
type of political profile did they have in the state,
and what was the defining characteristic of their service or
their approach to public service.
Speaker 16 (47:17):
Yeah, and I'll honesty, I don't know too much about
John Hoffman. I learned a lot more this week in
general about him, and a lot of the focus is
honestly ben on Melissa Hartman. Which I could say about
Melissa like she was a bleeding heart liberal, But at
the end of the day, she did a very very
(47:38):
hard thing and did the right thing in my opinion,
when she actually came to the table when we had
a split legislature here and said, hey, this is something
that our side's going to have.
Speaker 4 (47:49):
To deal with.
Speaker 16 (47:50):
She was the lone Democrat in the state House that
voted to strip illegals from their healthcare benefits here in Minnesota.
At the end of the day, Hey, I disagreed with
her on just about everything under the sun. But she
ended up coming to the table here and she was
extremely respectful while members of her caucus were banging on
(48:12):
the governor's door during a press conference when he announced that, Hey, yes,
this is the agreement.
Speaker 4 (48:18):
We came to. Tim Wallas came to this agreement. It
was that conclusive.
Speaker 16 (48:22):
But their caucus was bane on the door and throwing
up their hands and attacking federal agents in some cases
for their Democrat activists in Minneapolis the week prior to that, no,
the weeks after that at that point with the bane
on the door, but they were attacking federal agents. One
of their activists ended up getting actually detained for kicking
(48:43):
and punching a federal agent during a drug and human
trafficking bus, which Ice was involved with. So that's kind
of the craziness that we're dealing with here in Minnesota.
But Melissa Hortman an honorable individual who did the right
thing when all of that craziness was pushing against her.
So you have to appreciate what she was able to
(49:06):
do there. Even when you see those disagreements.
Speaker 1 (49:09):
We saw an emotional response from Minnesota Senator Amy Klobashar
talking about the children of the slain having to endure
a Father's Day with no father and no mother. Governor
Waltz has also made statements, how have you observed the
bipartisan reaction out of Minnesota to this violence.
Speaker 16 (49:28):
Honestly, it's been quite incredible. My favorite state representative, Walter
Hudson here in Minnesota. He's a Republican, prelivery oriented guy,
normally just always attacking the left and they're always attacking him.
He made a comment this week where hey, you know,
I'm getting people attacking me from both sides.
Speaker 4 (49:47):
And I've never retweeted a Democrat probably.
Speaker 16 (49:50):
In my entire life, but I've done it dozens of
times now this week because there is this coalition of
coming together to try to lower the temperature a little bit,
and which I think is good. This is a good
thing that is coming out of this. Obviously a terrible,
terrible tragy, but hopefully we learned something out of this,
because just me looking at and honestly, I have a
(50:11):
little bit of a personal experience with this, Like many
on the show are familiar.
Speaker 4 (50:16):
With the swatted.
Speaker 16 (50:17):
I was one of them, unfortunately, but as kind of
the lone Minnesota guy, where you know, a lot of
them are from around the country in North Carolina, Texas,
so and so forth. I'm just kind of the lone
guy up here in the Midwest who got it. I'm
familiar with it. I had a swat team come to
my home and try to attempt murder on me and
(50:38):
my family by proxy. I think just our family loans
had over thirty of those pizza deliveries sent to us
throughout this process. Some of them have had hundreds in
some cases on the worst case, like Gunther, who's probably
had the worst brunt of.
Speaker 4 (50:52):
All of this.
Speaker 16 (50:53):
But you kind of see all of this and you
look at the rhetoric from Democrats, which I'm gonna be
nice to him for a little bit here, and I'm
gonna give him a chance to, you know, kind of
fix his language here a little bit. But Tim Walls,
who we're all familiar with, was the central part of.
Speaker 4 (51:12):
A lot of this rhetoric.
Speaker 16 (51:13):
I mean, we saw in the presidential cycle when he
was Ryan's vice president before he became the nominee, for
weeks before he came the nominee. He basically said, well, Trumps,
I want to be dictator. Well then Trump gets shot
on stage and then we're like, oh, whoa, let's lower attentions.
And then the next week he just keeps going. And
(51:34):
now we're at Nazi rallies and he's a dictator and
you know, down to today where law enforcement are now
his personal gestapo. So like, you look at some of
this stuff and you're like, this has to stop.
Speaker 5 (51:47):
Now.
Speaker 16 (51:47):
I haven't seen him do it since I'm gonna give
him some credit here for at least in the small meantime,
but the moment he slips up, and I do think
he will because we've seen this story before, and I
hope he learns his lesson throughout this, but you know,
we'll just kind of see how that ends up playing
out here.
Speaker 4 (52:05):
And hopefully this is kind.
Speaker 16 (52:08):
Of like World War Two in the sense of like
the war that ends all wars and we don't have
to come back here again. Sure, hopefully we can stop
calling the president a Nazi and stopped attempts on his
life and so on and so forth, because this has
been a huge problem mostly with Lectus throughout the past
six you know, six to twelve months now more recently,
(52:29):
I do think this was a Republican But.
Speaker 4 (52:31):
At the end of the day, this has to stop
on both sides.
Speaker 2 (52:34):
There's no question about it.
Speaker 1 (52:35):
There's no equivocating, there's no cheering when there's harm to
the other side.
Speaker 2 (52:39):
You pointed out.
Speaker 1 (52:40):
That it's we view it as very corrosive to society
when we see the celebration of figures like Luigi Mangioni,
we do learn a lot about leaders in times of
crisis and where others are grieving, because it gives presidents, governors,
mayors the opportunity to show their bedside in or for
(53:00):
a community that's going through something, or a state going
through something. As we're watching Governor Waltz here and his
own oscillations on calls for or just this crazy rhetoric.
Are the people of Minnesota planning on him running for president?
Do you really think this is a guy who after
getting a taste of the national political stage maybe once
(53:21):
a little more in twenty twenty.
Speaker 4 (53:22):
Eight, Well, and this has kind of been my climb
to fame.
Speaker 16 (53:27):
I guess if you want to say that has been
outlining the timeline of Tim Walls, and I just can't
say that this has been something he's been wanting to
do for decades. Really, this has kind of been his
final goal. It's been on a track, and now he's
on the track. And Yeah, I do believe he's going
to run in twenty twenty eight. There's no question about that.
More of the question is will he run for governor
(53:49):
in twenty twenty six, which is still up in the air.
I do think he's going to do it. He had
a little bit of favorable pulling coming out here, so
you might think he's going to be in a good
enough position to just sweak by and be able to
hold a position to actually kind of rebrand himself a
little bit going twenty twenty eight. But yeah, he's definitely
intending on doing it. There's no question about that. It's
(54:10):
not really, you know, a minor thing to be pushed around.
He's pretty eloquent in saying this behind closed doors, and
he's not even that great at publicly saying no, I'm.
Speaker 8 (54:21):
Not going to do it.
Speaker 4 (54:22):
So do you think he'll be there? Tim Memes will continue.
Speaker 1 (54:27):
Well, Dustin, We are excited for your continued coverage of
all the political matchinations in Minnesota and certainly the governor there.
How can folks continue to follow your work?
Speaker 16 (54:37):
Oh, you can follow me on Twitter at greg E,
Dustin g r A g E d U s t
I N. Also, we're going to be putting up some
more columns here in the next week.
Speaker 4 (54:45):
On town hall dot com.
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And if you also want to just subscribe to my newsletter,
which we're going to start putting out more frequently, that's
at Dustin Gregy dot com. That's just my name, d
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on all this and hopefully some sanity comes.
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Dustin GREGI, thanks as always for joining us.
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Thank you Matt.
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