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Speaker 1 (00:00):
North Carolina Congressman Mark Harris is with us to react
to the longest shutdown in American history. Chuck Schumer has
made an offer. We'll see if the Congressman is willing
to accept it. Plus, folks are actually a little optimistic
today in California after new polling shows a leading candidate
for governor is a Republican. He's with me here tonight
to talk about his campaign ahead, and Larry Ward will

(00:22):
explain how laws regarding AI overseas could make their way
to the United States to protect us from deep fakes.
Royce White joins us from the campaign trail in Minnesota.
We've got all that and more tonight on the Macads Show.
Let's do this well, shaking up Washington, d C.

Speaker 2 (00:39):
We're breaking the fever.

Speaker 3 (00:40):
Do you haven't watch this guy on television.

Speaker 4 (00:43):
It's like a machine.

Speaker 5 (00:45):
He's great. Matt Gates, Happy Friday everyone.

Speaker 1 (00:52):
We are still on assignment and wondering what is going
on with the shutdown politics. We thought that the election
might lead to some give everyone an off ramp and
get the country back to some semblance of normal, whether
that's air travel or food inspections, or even the lost
productivity that we see that really may be what the
Democrats wanted all along. You see, President Trump had major

(01:15):
elements of his presidency on the rails and moving down
the tracks.

Speaker 5 (01:18):
He passed his.

Speaker 1 (01:19):
One Big Beautiful Bill GDP was growing, the deportation agenda
was working, and Democrats, without a substantive policy reason to resist,
just decided to throw their hands in the air and
shut the government down. President Trump spoke today to a
number of folks, and he believes that the way to
get through this shutdown is not by agreeing to demands
from Democrats, but using the Republican majority.

Speaker 5 (01:42):
We have and breaking the filbuster. Take a listen.

Speaker 3 (01:45):
We have a shutdown, as you probably know, because the
Democrats have gone they're crazy. They're crazy, but they don't
care if they heard the content. We've approved it fourteen times.
We've approved a opening up fourteen times, and they keep
rejecting it. And I guess maybe they will again. Let's
see what happens. They want to have a lot of

(02:05):
bad things happened, bad things for our country. We're not
going to give one point five trillion dollars to people
that came into our country illegally.

Speaker 6 (02:12):
We're not going to do it.

Speaker 3 (02:14):
To people came from prisons, they came from mental institutions,
the drug dealers, and they want to give them medical care.
I am totally in favor of terminating the filibuster, and
we would be back to work within ten minutes after
that vote took place. It doesn't make any sense that
a Republican would not want to do that. Most of

(02:34):
you will admit the Democrats are going.

Speaker 2 (02:36):
To do that, So why aren't we doing it?

Speaker 3 (02:38):
And I think only a foolish person would be against that,
especially when you realize that these are crazed people. These
people are absolutely crazed Trump de arrangement syndrome, whatever it
may be. Here's some of the things that we pass
if we terminated the filibuster. Voter ID, no mail in voting,
no cash bail, no men in women in sports, no

(03:00):
welfare for illegals.

Speaker 5 (03:02):
You could go on and on.

Speaker 3 (03:03):
This is two pages of things we'd do if you
did that. Without it, I don't know that you passed
anything because you can't.

Speaker 2 (03:09):
Deal with them.

Speaker 5 (03:09):
They're really irrational.

Speaker 1 (03:14):
President Trump's instincts seem to be serving him well in
this regard. There's one theory of the case that Republicans
should work with Democrats agree to some series of demands
they've made that we might have otherwise agreed to. The
problem with that is that if you agree to pay
a ransom, then you get more hostage taking. And in

(03:34):
this case, we're trying to get the country freed from
the captivity of Chuck Schumer. But Democrats on the heels
of this week's election aren't looking to end this anytime soon.
I think that there is no reason to surrender now,
every reason to stand firm.

Speaker 7 (03:51):
John Thune brings that vote out tomorrow morning to open
up the government with all dealing with the healthcare crisis.

Speaker 6 (03:57):
We are going to vote no.

Speaker 1 (03:59):
Once again, we are united in our opposition.

Speaker 2 (04:03):
I think it would be a real mistake to not
read this election as endorsement of Democrat's decision for the
first time to fight in the last four.

Speaker 1 (04:11):
Weeks, united in their opposition. But remember what it is
that they're actually opposing. They are opposing Joe Biden's spending levels.
That is what they are unwilling to open the government under.

Speaker 5 (04:24):
And that is insane.

Speaker 1 (04:26):
Now, the Democrat Senate leader Chuck Schumer has recently taken
to the floor with an offer to reopen the government.

Speaker 5 (04:34):
Let's take a listen.

Speaker 8 (04:36):
Democrats are ready to clear the way to quickly pass
the government funding bill that includes healthcare affordability. Leader Thun
just needs to add a clean one year extension of
the ACA tax credits to the c ARE so that
we can immediately address rising healthcare costs.

Speaker 1 (04:56):
In moments, we'll talk to North Carolina Republican Congressman Mark Harris.
He'll tell us whether or not that's an offer he
would be willing to accept in the House of Representatives.
But in the meantime, House Speaker Mike Johnson detailed a
long list of demands that have been part of the
Democrat strategy to hold everyone else to this crazy government
shut down.

Speaker 5 (05:15):
Here's the Speaker.

Speaker 9 (05:16):
When we say the one point five trillion, that is
the actual counter offer that they put on paper and
filed in the Senate, one point five trillion in new
spending on a seven week stopgap funding measure.

Speaker 6 (05:29):
I mean, it's just madness.

Speaker 9 (05:30):
And they want almost two hundred billion dollars to be
returned to healthcare benefits for legal aliens. They want to
send all these billions of dollars back over to foreign
countries for social spending and other countries. They wanted to
restore half a billion to the corporation public broadcasting, all
these things, and in that proposal, amazingly shockingly to us,
they put it on paper, they want to repeal the

(05:53):
fifty billion dollar rural hospital fund that Republicans work so
hard to get signed in a ladge your life for us.
That illustrates the very point this was never about one
particular issue. They just wanted to show a fight. They
wanted to look tough to the Marxist rise and their party.
And remember this, Chuck Schumer and Hakim Jeffries are both
New Yorkers, right, we all just saw what happened in
New York City. Mam Dami is all the rage now

(06:16):
and the young Communist are uprising and that scares the
old guard Democrats in Congress.

Speaker 1 (06:23):
Now, as this shutdown continues over whatever demands the Democrats
are coming up with, it's important to note it has
not fully paralyzed the Trump administration in the fulfillment of
the promises they made during the twenty twenty four campaign.
Leading among them is the retaking of America's cities from
illegal immigrants and criminals.

Speaker 5 (06:42):
The National Guard has been deployed in a number of places.

Speaker 1 (06:44):
That's resulted in some Democrat governors and mayors ruffling their
feathers and insisting that they will pursue legal action against
the President as the commander in chief. But underneath those
cozy leaders in blue states are real people who have
to deal with the consequences of actual crime. Take a
listen to this resident of Memphis, Tennessee talk about the

(07:06):
hope that is presented when the National Guard takes on
the criminals and backs the police.

Speaker 10 (07:12):
Yes, I do believe that the guards come here is
really necessary because they say it really needs Claimon.

Speaker 2 (07:19):
Note, Ravonda Liggan's twenty three year old son, John Ryan Ingram,
was shot and killed trying to break up a fight
nearly three months ago.

Speaker 10 (07:27):
If they're going to be a buffer between them and
the police to help minimize the crime, then that's a
great thing.

Speaker 9 (07:37):
The owner of Centro Espano, a Latino tax service in
Hickory Hill for fifteen years.

Speaker 11 (07:41):
Is excited the Guard is coming and not worried about ice.

Speaker 12 (07:46):
We're grateful for the National Guard coming. As far as
crime that's more affecting us than immigration.

Speaker 5 (07:53):
This mission is a critically important one.

Speaker 1 (07:55):
It's directly what President Trump said he would do, and
he is laser focused on it.

Speaker 3 (08:00):
Take a listen to President, and we're sending in our
national Guard, and if we need more than the National Guard,
we'll send more than the national Guard, because we're going
to have safe cities. We're not going to have people
killed in our cities. And whether people like that or not,
that's what we're doing.

Speaker 1 (08:16):
Congressman Mark Harrison North Carolina joins us Now, Congressman, I
want to get to the shutdown in this offer that
Senator Schumer seems to have made in a moment. But first,
President Trump's effort to retake American cities has swept the nation.
What's your reaction to his efforts.

Speaker 10 (08:32):
Well, we're very grateful for what the President has done
to really restore law and order in some of our cities,
and of course, right here in Charlotte, North Carolina, where
I've am, this is something that we believe that we
could use here in our own city, and that's the
reason that we reached out earlier this week to our
governor asking for him to bring in the National Guard

(08:54):
to Charlotte. And really it was a follow up to
a plea that has come from the termal order of
police here in the city of Charlotte who have recognized
that they're down two hundred and seventy three police officers
for where they should find themselves and to do the
policing they need to do. And I believe the National

(09:14):
Guard here would be a great assistance and a great
health for this as well.

Speaker 1 (09:22):
How do you think life would change for the people
in Charlotte if the National Guard were there backing up
an understaffed police department.

Speaker 13 (09:29):
Well, I think the folks would have a sense of calm.

Speaker 10 (09:31):
I think that they would recognize that, particularly in the
uptown area of Charlotte is known for having a number
of events, and people come from all over the state
and particularly in this region to come into downtown for concerts,
for restaurants, for sporting events, all those kinds of things.

Speaker 13 (09:50):
And I think it would really give all of.

Speaker 10 (09:51):
The visitors a sense of calm to know that their
presence is here in Charlotte.

Speaker 5 (09:58):
In Washington, d C.

Speaker 1 (10:00):
Where the National Guard has been deployed over the Halloween activities,
it was someone exposed that they didn't have arrest powers
and gangs of youths.

Speaker 5 (10:08):
Would gather and create a bit of havoc.

Speaker 1 (10:11):
Do you believe that the National Guard should have arrest
powers in Charlotte and throughout the country.

Speaker 10 (10:16):
Well, I'll leave the National Guard if they are able
to fulfill what their responsibility is, they're going to do
a great deal to free up the police to do
what the police here locally and Charlotte want to do
and are able to do. We've just seen a spiking
crime here in the Uptown area, some two hundred percent
increase in the number of murders, and just about every

(10:38):
day it seems we're waking up to another report of
another murder. I believe that the police, being understaffed as
they are right now, have the freedom to do the
work that they need to do.

Speaker 13 (10:48):
We go after the bad guys here in the city.

Speaker 10 (10:51):
Then they're wanting to accomplish a great deal, and I
think the National.

Speaker 13 (10:55):
Guard, providing that support status for them, would say the
bill for what we need here in Charlotte.

Speaker 1 (11:02):
At this point, let's get to the shutdown. Senator Schumer
took to the floor to say that if the President
would agree, the Senate would pass the continuing resolution the
House has passed alongside an extension of these Obamacare tax
credits for an additional year.

Speaker 5 (11:20):
Would you vote for that?

Speaker 6 (11:22):
Now?

Speaker 10 (11:22):
Listen, Matt, we have seen just the perfect example of
Chuck Schumer once again trying to move the goalposts. There's
been a lot of conversations that have been going on,
I understand, over the last several days and looking.

Speaker 13 (11:37):
For an option and a way out. Listen, they need
an exit ramp.

Speaker 10 (11:42):
They got into this thing, They've gotten themselves backed into
a corner, and they simply need an exit ramp and
they're trying to figure it out. But for whatever reason,
they somehow felt in bold and by the election on
Tuesday ninth, I mean, let's.

Speaker 13 (11:55):
Just face it, what are these three statements?

Speaker 10 (11:58):
Is shocking That New Jersey elected a Democrat governor, That Virginia,
a blue state, elected a Democrat governor.

Speaker 13 (12:06):
That New York City elected a self acclaimed socialist.

Speaker 10 (12:10):
Many understand that he's a communist as mayor of New
York City.

Speaker 13 (12:15):
You know, none of those things should really be shocking
to us.

Speaker 10 (12:18):
But for whatever reason, they feel in bold at this
particular point, and so they're moving the goldpost. And I
think it's going to be a non starter in the
Senate quite frankly, and I don't even think that'll make
it over to the House.

Speaker 1 (12:29):
Whatsoever, if the House agrees to take any change to
the continuing resolution you've passed, do you think it would
make it more likely that in the future Democrats would
cause shutdowns in order to extract some policy concession from Republicans.

Speaker 13 (12:49):
I think it would.

Speaker 10 (12:50):
It would be rewarding bad behavior, and I think the
speakers made it clear at this time that we're not
about to reward bad behavior. I think the fact that
they very well play around pass the November twenty first date,
and they may send something back. But listen, we've been
very clear we're not gonna get jammed with something leading
up just to Christmas and then somehow an omnimous bill appear.

(13:13):
And this is something that's gonna have to go into
next year, and it's gonna be something that at best
may have wrapped in appropriation bills that we've already considered
or might considered with it. But outside of that, the
clean CR is the key. And I've told people this
again and again. The Senate can open the government today
if they'll just pass the clean R that will sit

(13:35):
over there, it'll go to the President's desk, he'll sign it.

Speaker 13 (13:38):
Boom. Government is open if.

Speaker 10 (13:40):
They want to delay it, obviously we're gonna have to
get back to Washington from the House, and that's going to.

Speaker 13 (13:45):
Grow on a forty eight hour call back. Then we
would have to deal with that.

Speaker 10 (13:48):
But listen, if the Senate wants to do what's right,
they'll vote for the Clean Sea r and let's be
done with this today.

Speaker 5 (13:58):
That makes a lot of sense. But it doesn't seem
like they're willing to.

Speaker 1 (14:01):
Bernie Sanders reiterated today that they're holding to their position.
Chuck Schumer again continues to make offers to you guys,
but none to actually open the government on a clean
funding bill.

Speaker 5 (14:13):
And so I'm.

Speaker 1 (14:14):
Wondering, Congressman, which feature of the shutdown worries you most.
I mean, we've been talking about Charlotte. It's a major
air hub. We've seen what Secretary Duffy has said about
air traffic control. We've got the Department of War having
to deal with pay for our troops. We've got ice
in very active operations. As you sit at your desk
and think, gosh, this thing's going to roll on to

(14:35):
another day, where's your focus?

Speaker 10 (14:38):
Well, I think every one of those items you just
mentioned is criminal, quite frankly, that we have put the
American people in this position.

Speaker 13 (14:46):
The Chuck Schumer has chosen to.

Speaker 10 (14:48):
Haul them hostage over his just craziness and the things
that they are trying to do. And the reality is
that right now we're in a place.

Speaker 13 (14:57):
Where all of those are critical. Let's face it.

Speaker 10 (15:00):
I think someone pointed out yesterday, you think about the
air travel. If there's one accident, people get killed. We
cannot afford to have our air travel put in jeopardy
like this. And of course they've taken the steps right
now to reduce the air traffic.

Speaker 13 (15:18):
But listen, it's a serious situation. All of those.

Speaker 10 (15:21):
We've got to pay our military, we've got to pay
our custom our ice agents, our customer mortar patrol. We've
got to get back to business as usual. And I
hope and praying that the Democrats at least file them.

Speaker 13 (15:33):
That's all. We need five more to come to their
senses in the Senate.

Speaker 5 (15:39):
We hope they do.

Speaker 1 (15:40):
North Carolina Congressman Mark Harris, thanks for joining us to
reiterate your call to activate the guard in Charlotte and
bring us.

Speaker 5 (15:46):
Up to speed on this crazy Schumer shutdown. We appreciate you.

Speaker 13 (15:49):
Thank you, man, it's always great to be with you.

Speaker 1 (15:54):
Coming up, Larry war joins us because over in Denmark
they believe they've come up with a solution to AI
deep fakes with a regulatory tool. We'll discuss whether or
not that has potential in the United States because Deep
States deep fakes seem to be everywhere and they are annoying.

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Speaker 14 (18:28):
Long to the AI is going to be in charge,
to be totally frank, not humans. If artificial intelligence vastly
exceeds the sum of human intelligence, it is difficult to
mention that any humans will actually be in charge.

Speaker 6 (18:45):
So we just need to make sure that AI is friendly.

Speaker 1 (18:50):
It's an ominous warning that we got from Elon Musk
about the risks of artificial intelligence, and we want to
explore how different jurisdictions are dealing with it. We talked
about California, where there are limitations on the amount of
screen time without some sort of prompt from large AI
language models, maybe recommending something other than continuing.

Speaker 5 (19:10):
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Speaker 1 (19:13):
But in Denmark they're concerned about deep fakes. I haven't
been astonished at the way deep fakes have really entered
our politics, entered our culture and our discourse to the
point where when you see something startling online, the first
question is, now is that AI when Denmark they want
to create a series of consequences, And we're wondering whether
or not the very aggressive posture against deep fakes in

(19:35):
Denmark could make its way across the pond of the
United States joining US now is our favorite guest we
like to bring on to talk about issues around artificial
intelligence and policy, Larry Ward. So, Larry, I saw this
story out of Denmark where they're looking at a tool
to attack deep fakes, and I wanted to get your
perspective on the features of that law and whether or
not we could bring it to the United States.

Speaker 15 (19:58):
Look, I think it's a great law, and I hate
to compliment Europe when they come when they typically come
up with stuff that is business killing and and really
hard on regulation. But Denmark actually came up with a
great solution for deep fakes, and that is to give
every citizen copyright over their own image, their own voice,
their own likeness, the same way that celebrities get that

(20:21):
copyright over their image and likeness and voice. And it
is very important because deep fakes are rampant in terms
of crime right now. You know, you hear the deep
fakes of the person calling the grandparents with the voice
of their grandson who they say is in trouble. Wire
me money now, and there's deep fakes in terms of

(20:42):
you know, revenge porn and things like that will be
pushed around on social media. And these type of things
have to have some sort of off switch where where
the platforms can absolutely what they're doing right now with
copyright takedowns, take down these videos for copyright infringement.

Speaker 1 (21:03):
Let's talk about enforcement, because that seems to always be
a real challenge in the digital world. Do you think
that if everyone had this type of right around their name,
their voice, that they would actually be able to go
enforce it against deep fake perpetrators.

Speaker 15 (21:19):
Well, I don't think they're going to be able to
enforce it against defake perpetrators. Look, when you commit fraud,
you do a revenge porn, there are laws on the
books for that already.

Speaker 4 (21:26):
You're going to have to go through the legal process.

Speaker 15 (21:28):
But what this law does is this, this law gives
the ability and actually the mandate to the platform companies,
to the companies hosting the content on the Internet, to
take it down and to take it down for a
copyright violation. And if they don't, then those platforms can
be in trouble.

Speaker 5 (21:49):
So how is this going to go, Larry?

Speaker 1 (21:51):
Are we going to see more states do what California
has done and go about this their own way, or
are we going to see this type of national policy
see like Denmark has adopted.

Speaker 15 (22:02):
I think we're going to see more states adopted because
the states typically adopted quicker. But eventually there's going to
have to be a national law to kind of, you know,
bring all of these ideas together and take them the
good ones and get rid of the bad ones.

Speaker 13 (22:17):
You know.

Speaker 15 (22:18):
It's it's something that we have to actually start looking
at and say, you know, there's harm that's going to
come out of AI.

Speaker 4 (22:25):
There's no question there's going to be harmed.

Speaker 15 (22:26):
There's bad actors, and it's a very very powerful technology.
So we have to get our arms around it and
put together the rules in terms of and the laws
in terms of you know, how not to do harm.

Speaker 1 (22:39):
Yeah, I know there are a lot of state lawmakers
who watch our program.

Speaker 5 (22:42):
So you could go.

Speaker 1 (22:43):
File a bill that would mirror what we saw in
Denmark and see that your state had the ability to
protect your citizens, and Larry Ward will probably help you
when you do it. There is another AI story I
want to talk about.

Speaker 6 (22:53):
Larry.

Speaker 1 (22:53):
We saw the CEO of and Nvidia come out and
say that China could very well win the AI race
against the United States.

Speaker 5 (23:00):
Why do you think that is? And do you agree
with the assessment?

Speaker 15 (23:04):
Well, why that is is actually something I wrote about
in January. I said, don't sput nick AI because I
knew this was going to happen when Deep Seat came
out and everybody panicked in the stock market crash in
the beginning of the year, because you know, they they
were able to create AI for six million dollars, which
was a lie.

Speaker 4 (23:21):
By the way, I don't know when we started believing.

Speaker 15 (23:23):
China, but when when when they everybody start went to
a panic and it says, this is a Sputnik moment, Well,
this is not a Sputnik moment.

Speaker 4 (23:30):
Sputnik. We built a spaceship.

Speaker 15 (23:33):
That depends on who you believe that went to the
went to the moon and back and and hey, we
were done, right, it was accomplished.

Speaker 4 (23:40):
We beat Sputnik, We beat the Russians to the moon.
This is this is different.

Speaker 15 (23:45):
AI is going to be involved in every single aspect
of our lives, and we can't rush to to recklessly
build this technology as fast as possible. And that's that's
really what Jensen Hung was was trying to do. He
was trying to scare the United in the state's government
into into deregulation, into you know, maybe some financial support,

(24:06):
whatever it is, into letting letting him sell into China.
Whatever the reason is. He's trying to get the government
to deregulate so AI can build faster and faster, so
he can take in as many profits as possible right now.
But that is the wrong approach. We have to build responsibly,
not recklessly.

Speaker 1 (24:28):
You know what I worry about, Larry, I worry about
AI starting a war when I think about these deep
fakes and how good they get at voice mockery. When
I see the way that emails increasingly are just robots
writing messages back and forth to each other. When I
think about our weapons systems and how many of them
are getting AI.

Speaker 5 (24:49):
Programmed into them. But do you think that we could
see a day in this world where a war is
literally begun by some future of AI.

Speaker 15 (24:59):
Well, I don't actually think that's a futuristic thing. I
think AI is capable of doing that right now. You know,
it's just a matter of you know, will people use
it in that capacity or not?

Speaker 4 (25:11):
Do we have the defenses to protect it?

Speaker 7 (25:14):
You know?

Speaker 4 (25:14):
And and quite frankly, I.

Speaker 15 (25:15):
Am very concerned that we're bringing AI into the d
O D and we're bringing AI into you know, like
like like when when d O D s uh brought
these four companies, gave these four companies massive two hundred
million dollar contracts to uh Ai AFI the the d
O D.

Speaker 4 (25:34):
Which some people will.

Speaker 15 (25:35):
Say that is very important, But the question I ask is,
you know, like every single person that works at the
d D took an oath of office. Did anybody think that, Hey,
maybe we should make the AI take the oath of
office and and take the oath of you know, and
actually do the background checks that we do.

Speaker 4 (25:56):
You know, with with humans, we.

Speaker 15 (25:58):
Have to start looking at AI as hiring an employee,
not hiring not licensing a technology.

Speaker 1 (26:08):
Wow, well with the human in the loop. Now, I
don't think AI has started any worse yet, but I
think it's possible with the way we're going with the
rapid adoption.

Speaker 5 (26:17):
Larry Ward, thanks.

Speaker 1 (26:18):
As always for coming on and sharing your expertise in
this space.

Speaker 4 (26:21):
Hey, thanks for having me.

Speaker 5 (26:24):
And coming up.

Speaker 1 (26:25):
Steve Hilton is the leading candidate for governor of California.

Speaker 5 (26:29):
You heard that right.

Speaker 1 (26:30):
He's not just the leading Republican candidate. He is the
leading candidate and we needed some good news in California
after two days election as results.

Speaker 5 (26:38):
Steve Hilton with me.

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Speaker 5 (29:00):
California is really an enigma.

Speaker 1 (29:02):
We wondered whether or not there was any hope for
the Golden State after Tuesday's election, when by a margin
of about two to one, voters agreed with Gavin Newsom
that five Republican congressional districts should be wiped off of
the map simply because they could. They literally embraced partisan
jerrymandering for the purpose of securing power. That's not politics
for the people. That's politics for the service of an ideology,

(29:26):
even when people are voting a different way in certain
congressional districts.

Speaker 5 (29:29):
So we were worried about California.

Speaker 1 (29:31):
We thought maybe every reasonable rational person was devoid of
participation in the political process. But Katie Zachariah came on
the program and she said that the hope lies in
the millions of Californians who are Republican and conservative who
didn't vote against Proposition fifty but might be inspired by
a particularly useful candidate Takeolisen to Katie.

Speaker 16 (29:53):
Now, with six million Republicans turned out to vote for
President Trump in California in twenty twenty four, and about
two point eight million turned out on Prop fifty to
vote No. So we see a huge mark of Republicans
not showing up. If they had showed up, if every
single Republican who had showed up to vote for President
Trump showed up to vote No. One to fifty, we

(30:15):
would have wiped Gavin Newsom's Pop fifty out.

Speaker 1 (30:19):
Getting people to show up for elections requires inspiration and perspiration.
I know, having won seven elections and lost.

Speaker 5 (30:27):
None of them.

Speaker 1 (30:27):
Now we're wondering who in California can be that catalyst.

Speaker 5 (30:32):
Enter Steve Hilton.

Speaker 1 (30:33):
He's been a television personality, a business owner, a technologist,
a strategist for a lot of the conservative policies that
we saw in the United Kingdom. Don't look now, but
Steve Hilton is the leading candidate for governor of California.

Speaker 5 (30:47):
According to two recent polls.

Speaker 1 (30:49):
EMC Research has him at about twenty percent and we've
got him at about eighteen percent. I'm sorry, that's sixteen
percent in the Emerson poll. That's a poll that is
tracking a very, very wide array of candidates. Katie Porter
does appear to be in second place. We hope she's
left the Halloween costume behind. Joining us now literally from

(31:10):
the campaign trail where he's talking to California voters. Steve Hilton,
the leading candidate, gush, Steve, when I saw that you
were running against Katie Porter, who's run statewide before, Bassera,
who was a member of the cabinet. Eric Swalwell's in
these polls. He's a famous congressman. You've never run for
office before, and you top the entire field.

Speaker 5 (31:32):
What's your reaction to this exciting data?

Speaker 11 (31:35):
Yeah, and you can add to that Antonio via Ragoso,
who was the former mayor of Los Angeles. Look, it's
obvious people are sick of what's going on in California.
The corrupt machine, Democrat one party rule, Gavin Newston's machine,
Nancy Pelosi's machine. She's still pulling the strings, we hear.
And they're sick of it because it's just such a
disaster for regular working people. California has become a state where,

(31:59):
under this fifteen of one party rule, this corruption, the
rich have got richer, but regular working people are screwed.
Small businesses are having a nightmare. I used to be
a small business own ue to run restaurants back in
the day in England. I know how hard that is.
I'm on the road as you can see. I'm right
in the Central Value of California today talking to farmers,
and this evening we're going to be doing an event

(32:21):
with restaurant owners own It's just a nightmare for people,
and they're sick of it. They know we need something different,
and that's why. Actually, however people may think, oh, are
Republican's never going to win in California, I think those
days are over. I think we're sick of it and
next year is going to be a political revolution here
and I'm very honored to be leading it.

Speaker 1 (32:43):
Katie Porter is the leading Democrat candidate for governor. She's
one of the meanest people I've ever met, and you're
actually one of the nicest. Do you think mean versus
nice would be a feature of this campaign in ways
that might run counter to traditional orthodoxies about Democrats and Republicans.

Speaker 5 (32:59):
I don't know.

Speaker 11 (32:59):
I mean, I appreciate you saying that. I think that
you know it's changed. It's definitely changed. Versus more of
the same. I mean, that's a classic one in politics.
But that's where we are right now, and it's common
sense versus insanity. I mean, these people are in you know,
the policies are insane. I mean, right now in the
Central Valley, they're taking water away from our farmers. We
have the greatest egg industry in the world, but they're

(33:20):
crushing it deliberately by in the name of some ridiculous
climate zealotry. You look at the fact that we're shutting
down our oil and gas industry in California, and we've
got abundant oil and gas reserves, and yet we pay
the highest gas prices in the whole country, higher than
Hawaii in the middle of the Pacific Ocean. None of
it makes sense. It's ideology, it's insanity. Just this week

(33:41):
we saw another example. The woman in Los Angeles at
the gym. I went to see the gym. I went
there to highlight the story. She's in the women's locker
room and a biological man comes in and starts going
on about showing you know you all the naked women
in there. You want to see men's private parts. I'm
not going to say that, and it's the woman that

(34:02):
gets thrown out. It's insane, and we've put up with
it for too long. In California, the homelessness is insane.
You don't see that in other parts of the country,
let alone the world. It's illegal to camp on the streets,
but they turn a blind eye. The way that illegal
immigrants get free healthcare when Californians can't afford to pay healthcare.

(34:23):
It's all insane, and I think people just want common
sense and insanity, practical things that are going to make
their life better, and that's what I'm offering.

Speaker 1 (34:33):
I was recently campaigning in the Central Valley against Proposition fifty.
You've campaigned against Proposition fifty. It passed because about four
or three and a half four million people who voted
for President Trump didn't show up and vote for or
against Proposition fifty. Why is it that more Californians weren't

(34:55):
inspired to vote in this last election?

Speaker 5 (34:57):
And how are you going to.

Speaker 1 (34:59):
Be the the solution to bridge that enthusiasm gap.

Speaker 11 (35:04):
So Prop fifty, if you look at the actual substance
of it, was about something very obscure for regular people,
very detached from their daily life, redistricting who draws the maps.
Obviously we can have a long and serious conversation about that.
It's very important. I'm not dismissing it. But in terms
of the things that people are worried about, you know
that the gas prices, their electric bill more than double

(35:25):
the national average, the cost of rent, and all of
that stuff all sky high because of Democrat policies. That was,
in a sense, nothing to do with Prop fifty. The
Democrat machine, the corrupt machine, with the government union money
and all of that. They had way more the sorrow's
money coming in from out of state. They had ad
after ad that made it very simple. It's all about Trump.
If you don't like Trump, vote for Prop fifty. And

(35:48):
that was successful because it wasn't it wasn't relatable to
your daily life. It's gonna be very different next year
when the issues will be your life here in California,
and my message will be very very clear and simple
as it already is three dollar gas, cut your bills
in half, a home that you can afford to buy,
more prisons, less crime, simple practical things that are going

(36:11):
to make your life better, contrasted with more of the
same far left insanity and cost and hassle and bureaucracy
and nanny state nonsense from the Democrats. After fifteen years
of next year will be sixteen years of one party rule.
So I think it's going to be a very very
different election next year, and I'm really confident we can
pull it off. But the way you started is exactly right.

(36:32):
We've got to get the Trump base, the Trump voter,
to turn out next year. And the point that I
always make it when I made it in my first
conversation with you as a candidate, which is that if
everybody who voted for President Trump last year in California
votes for me next year for governor, then I will
be the next governor with two hundred thousand votes to spare.

(36:53):
So it's all about getting that turned out. Final thing,
I'll say, we've got a really good shot at that
because of something that I know you've been campaigning for
as well, which is Vote ID. And I've been there
with my friend Carl Demayo on this bus tour getting
signatures right now for a ballot initiative to put vote
ID on the ballot next November. That will really help
get the Republican turnout as high as we need it.

Speaker 6 (37:15):
To be.

Speaker 1 (37:18):
Steve Hilton, Republican candidate for Governor of California, Leading candidate
for Governor of California on the campaign trail right now.
Thanks for checking in, Stay safe on the trail, my friend.

Speaker 11 (37:27):
Great to be with you. Thank you, Matt, and.

Speaker 1 (37:31):
Coming up, we stay on the campaign trail and head
to Minnesota where Senate candidate Royce White is facing an
attack from the Republican Jewish Coalition.

Speaker 5 (37:40):
It was pretty surprising to us.

Speaker 1 (37:41):
Will allow candidate Royce White to respond after a quick break.

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Speaker 1 (40:07):
On this program, we like to cover interesting candidates for
public office, and maybe the most interesting candidate in America is.

Speaker 5 (40:13):
Former NBA player Royce White.

Speaker 1 (40:16):
He was a first round Pick in the NBA to
the Houston Rockets, had a brief NBA career before playing overseas,
and now is running for the United States Senate in Minnesota.
We bring it up because the Republican Jewish Coalition issued
a statement recently blasting White's campaign. They said he's eager
to promote anti Semites, and they took particular exception with

(40:36):
White's description of Israel as an ethno nationalist state. Now,
at the same time the Republican Jewish Coalition is criticizing
Royce White, the IDF is having a bit of a
day itself, not on the battlefield.

Speaker 5 (40:50):
But in public relations.

Speaker 1 (40:52):
That's because Reuters is now reporting that the United States
has intelligence that military lawyers with the.

Speaker 5 (41:00):
IDF told the IDF.

Speaker 1 (41:03):
That their actions, the actions the decisions of the Israeli
government could likely be charged as war crimes, war crimes
in Gaza. And the allegation doesn't come from me, Does
it come from Tucker Carlson, Does it come from Candice Owens.
It comes from the military lawyers for the IDF. And

(41:23):
so there is only one explanation for why the military
lawyers for the IDF are criticizing the Israeli government, they
must be anti Semitic, because, of course, if anyone criticizes
the Israeli government, they must be anti Semitic. We say
this in jest, of course, because there can be legitimate criticisms,
and those legitimate criticisms can even emerge from the legal

(41:45):
team of the very military that could be committing war
crimes in Gaza. Joining us now former NBA player and
current Republican candidate for the United States Senate in Minnesota,
Royce White. So, Royce, I saw this attack against you
from the Republican Jewish Coalition and they have accused you
of promoting anti Semites. So I guess I want to

(42:07):
ask the question this way, what have you done to
promote the anti Semitic lawyers for the IDF who told
the Israeli government that they were likely.

Speaker 5 (42:17):
Committing war crimes in Gaza. What have you done to
promote those anti Semites.

Speaker 7 (42:21):
I've done absolutely nothing to promote those anti Semites at all.

Speaker 5 (42:27):
So what, where, where where is this coming from? Is it?

Speaker 1 (42:30):
Are we now in a time in American politics where
if you simply don't want to engage in foreign wars,
your your views on like big a tree are questioned.

Speaker 7 (42:41):
That that seems to be it. Everywhere I go on
the campaign trail right now, I tell people that our
foreign policy is at the beating heart of the Maga movement.
You know that the Maga movement is is in some
respects rooted in our foreign policy, and that our foreign
policy for so long, and you know, well since after
World War Two, has been dedicated on a number of things,

(43:01):
but namely around our relationship with Israel, or at Israel
as a strategic ally as they say, in that region.
And I continue to tell people America doesn't even have
authentic foreign policy. All of our foreign policy is great
Britain's foreign policy. We're in a war with Russia, We're
in a war with China, which is an opium war
we're getting paid back for right now. We're in a

(43:22):
war in the Middle East. All of it is a
great Britains foreign policy. But you know, I don't know
where we're at. I mean, I've been on the record
defending Israel a number of times. And I don't say
defending Israel because I apologize or cape up form. I
just talk about things the way that they are. I
do feel like there is an Israel conversation that's like
it's all the Jews fault. I would never say it's
all anybody's fault, because it takes away the culpability that

(43:44):
I and black people and white people and everybody other,
you know, every other group of American citizens has in
what's happened to this country. However, you know, they are
stretching the definition of anti Semitism to a place similar
to the liberals change science the term science or the
term you know, spirit, now you've got too spirit, and

(44:09):
to talk about gender. It's the exact same thing. And
then they call us the woke right. We're not the
woke right. You guys have changed the definition of anti
Semitism to fit whatever you need it to mean to
go after whoever doesn't go along with the agenda.

Speaker 6 (44:21):
It's completely and utterly shameful.

Speaker 7 (44:24):
I think it's hurtful to the Jewish people and the
state of Israel, and it's certainly harmful to American citizenship
and the conversation about American policy.

Speaker 1 (44:35):
That has beautifully said, we do not just hold these
views because we firmly believe they're best for America.

Speaker 5 (44:40):
We actually think it would be.

Speaker 1 (44:41):
Better for the Jewish people in Israel if Israel absolutely
not following Benjamin Netsan Yahoo into every war, and there's
nothing anti Semitic about that at all. And if everything
is anti Semitism, then nothing is anti Semitism. Now I
want to ask you about your race specifically because the
current head of the Republican Republican Jewish Coalition is a

(45:03):
former United States Senator from Minnesota. Is he helping you
in your campaign?

Speaker 6 (45:08):
Of course he isn't.

Speaker 7 (45:09):
I mean, he's the reason why they RJC put out
that statement in the first place. He and five other
Republican stalwarts came out against me after I had won
the endorsement from the rest of the party at our
state convention. So they basically said, which the Republican establishment
does all across the country in these primaries and endorsements,
if we get the candidates we want, then you know,

(45:29):
let's play as a team, right, everybody's on one big
Republican team. If any grassroots or MAGA or two extreme
anti Semites win their state endorsement, which I did, then
then we say, you know, out with the you know,
with the rules and the expectation of honoring the endorsement.
And that's what Norm Coleman, Tim Plenty, you know, Rudy Boschowitz,
Kendall Qualls who's now running for governor, Michelle Benson, Paul

(45:52):
Gazelka used to be our state minority leader. So you know,
all of these people are And it's funny to me.
I leive you look Lindsay Graham and I go, why
is it that all of these people who the entire
MAGA movement knows isn't really Maga. Why is it that
they all have the same exact view on foreign policy

(46:12):
in Israel? Take them on down the line. You got
Lindsey Graham, you got Mitch McConnell, you got you know,
Ted Cruz even you know, in some respects you could
throw him on.

Speaker 6 (46:22):
The list, Mark Levin. I mean all of them.

Speaker 7 (46:25):
They all have the exact same take on our foreign
policy and specifically Israel, and we're supposed to.

Speaker 6 (46:31):
Just ignore it.

Speaker 7 (46:32):
Like Norm Coleman, for example, he was a never Trumper
back in twenty sixteen. And I know people can change.
I get that, but you were never Trumper and now
all of a sudden, and take this for example, I
see President Trump out there saying we need same day
paper ballots. That has to be the new standard for
us to have a republic they say they're maga, they
say they support them in public, but behind the scenes

(46:54):
they have ballot chasing, early voting, you know organizations, right,
so they're undermined them almost in public. I'm just not
going to take it. I don't know Norm Coleman. I
know some people who know Norm Coleman, but I have
no allegiance to Norm Coleman.

Speaker 6 (47:08):
I don't care what the RJC says.

Speaker 7 (47:10):
I don't care what APEC says, I don't care what
any of this Israeli lobby says. It's the same. And
I'm sorry to go on a tangent, but I take
a personal offense because here I am again a Black Republican,
a Black Conservative, and I take crap from both sides,
from all sides. Really, there's not a lot of room
for your black conservatives other in the mag of movement, right.
I mean, we just aren't really liked by anybody more

(47:32):
or less. But you know, it's no more reasonable to
say that any critique of black people is rooted in
racism than it is to say any critique of Jewish
people is rooted.

Speaker 6 (47:42):
In anti Semitis. Both things.

Speaker 7 (47:44):
Both things are equally ridiculous and if anybody said to me,
that's right, Oh you can't.

Speaker 6 (47:49):
Yeah, go ahead, you know.

Speaker 1 (47:52):
And just like the left over used the term racism
so as to give it no meaning, I do feel
like the.

Speaker 5 (48:00):
Unwoke right is doing the same thing.

Speaker 1 (48:02):
And by the way, just on this thing about the
woke right, if being part of the unwoke right means
you have to sign up for George W. Bush's foreign policy,
I will lead the woke right. I will lead you
woke right people away from the wars and toward your
own people.

Speaker 5 (48:17):
And by the way, so will Royce White.

Speaker 1 (48:19):
Rose White should get the support of every single Republican
in Minnesota and any independent or Democrat with a brain.

Speaker 5 (48:25):
We are glad you are running. We have your back,
and we appreciate you coming on the show as always.

Speaker 6 (48:30):
Thank you, brother, God speak to you man.

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Sean Stone, the son of Oliver Stone, has made a
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enigmatic Kennedy family.

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We've got sewn stone with us. Next, don't go anywhere?

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Speaker 1 (52:06):
RFK Junior he's an enigmatic figure in American politics, having
run for president as a Democrat and Independent, and that
was just in this last election cycle before ultimately joining
the Republican team and endorsing President Trump. You know, leads
HHS where we're proud of many of the changes that
have been made personnel and otherwise. But there's a bigger
story here about an important American legacy. That's where Sean

(52:29):
Stone comes in. He's the son of Oliver Stone and
has put together a film about RFK Junior and his
relationship with one of the most iconic American families.

Speaker 5 (52:40):
Take a listen, do you.

Speaker 4 (52:41):
Think there's the Kennedy Kurz.

Speaker 6 (52:45):
And your father changed.

Speaker 17 (52:46):
When the app you're my uncle's dad, my father was shattered.

Speaker 12 (52:51):
His first call was to the CIA and said, did
you guys kill my brother?

Speaker 4 (52:57):
And then Robert Kennedy announced he was going to run.

Speaker 12 (52:59):
For I run to seek new policy.

Speaker 2 (53:02):
He was making alliances with small businessmen, with farmers, with Republicans.

Speaker 11 (53:06):
My thanks to all of you and how it's on
to Chicago.

Speaker 13 (53:09):
And let's win the.

Speaker 4 (53:12):
I want to ask you about your father's assassination.

Speaker 17 (53:15):
Anybody who reads that report will understand that Sir n
could not have killed my father. He accepted his burden
and he did his duty. We have to make an
effort to get beyond these rather difficult times. We have
to stop trying to destroy each other.

Speaker 9 (53:31):
What we need in the United States is not division.

Speaker 17 (53:34):
We have to find that place of the light of empathy,
of compassion. I don't know if there's a curse. We
do what we're supposed to do. The outcomes in God's hands.

Speaker 1 (53:51):
RFK legacy is the film. Seanstone is the filmmaker, and
he joins us now. So Sean, what do you hope
viewers take away from this flick.

Speaker 6 (54:00):
Right to the point.

Speaker 12 (54:02):
I would say that, first of all, it's a very emotional,
heartfelt documentary. I think it'll be surprising to an audience
that maybe hasn't seen a documentary quite like this. You
get the parallel stories of RFK Senior and junior right
how much RFK Jr. Despite what the media wants us

(54:24):
to believe, is very much walking in the footsteps of
his father and his uncle JFK. And so through the
course of the story, we really dive into some of
the questions around conspiracy of why JFK and his brother
RFK were murdered. You know, I believe in my father,
who executive produced this with me, we believe that it
was by conspiracies. So you'll get a sense of why,

(54:47):
and then you'll also get a sense of why RFK
Junior has suffered a different type of assassination, a character
assassination for challenging the status quo when it came to
things like, you know, vaccine safety, questioning the COVID narrative
and whatnot. So I think that what people take away
will be hopefully an emotional journey into the tragedy of

(55:13):
the assassination of great leaders and the effect that's had
across our psyche as a nation.

Speaker 1 (55:21):
As you were making this film, what did you find
to be the most endearing quality of RFK Junior.

Speaker 12 (55:28):
You know what, I really appreciate. I've known him a
little bit over the years, and I've just seen a
consistency to his authenticity in his quest for truth, even
on things that I don't necessarily agree with him about,
you know, when it comes to politics or issues. I've
always felt that he's someone who will listen, and I

(55:51):
mean he's publicly acknowledged it. Back in twenty one or
twenty two, he said publicly that my father and I
helped him understand the fact that the Russian conspiracy was
very much a non conspiracy, or you could say it
was an intelligence community conspiracy right by our own FBI
and intelligence agencies run against Trump as opposed to the

(56:11):
idea of, you know, Trump being a Russian agent. So
he credited us, my father and I with helping him
to realize that in the course of conversations. And I
think that's that's very very much who he is as
a person, that he's someone who is willing to listen
and if you if you present evidence, I think he can,
you know, he can change his his perspective, he can
change his mind.

Speaker 1 (56:34):
Will viewers of RFK Legacy, the film, will they get
a sense of RFK Junior's demons as well?

Speaker 12 (56:42):
To a certain extent, Yes, you know, with the Kenedy
Kennedy family, I think there's a lot there's there's plenty
of demons, and there's been a lot of work books
and documentaries, right, I mean, we you can point to
things like the womanizing, the you know, the Marily Monroe tragedy.
There's there's a lot of questions and still around her death.
And we don't dive into these aspects of either of

(57:07):
either the father, the uncle or the son simply because
it wasn't the focus of the narrative. So yeah, the
demons that we focus on are are more about the loss,
the tragic loss of life and how the death of JFK.
You know, I could say, you know shattered RFK Senior
and you'll see, I think a very humbled man as

(57:30):
a result, you know, after seeing his brothers, after seeing
his brother killed, you know, he was very much humbled
by that experience and became more compassionate. And we see,
you know, how he was transformed, and likewise we see
how r.

Speaker 6 (57:44):
F K Jr.

Speaker 12 (57:45):
Was transformed by his father's death and that led him
to drug abuse and ultimately redemption through his environmental work.
So to a certain extent, yes, we show, you know,
we show aspects of the demons, but it's not This
is not a full you know, this is not a
full biography of any of these people. It's more a
story of I think, courage in the face of an

(58:09):
establishment that doesn't want to change, right that it's a
military industrial establishment that includes big pharma and big agriculture.
There are all aspects of this massive government, you know,
infrastructure that doesn't want these rebels, these people that question
and think for themselves, and I think that's the most
that's the main thrust of what we're trying to get

(58:31):
across in this piece.

Speaker 1 (58:35):
Well, if that's your interest, I cannot wait to call
you to make the Matt Gates movie. But until then,
we hope people go and see RFK legacy. Seanstone, incredible
filmmaker and really really one of the great stories.

Speaker 5 (58:46):
Of one of the most iconic American families. Thanks for
coming on explaining it.

Speaker 6 (58:51):
Thank you, Matt.

Speaker 5 (58:54):
That's all the time We have.

Speaker 1 (58:55):
We'll be back Monday, nine o'clock Eastern six specific Make
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Enjoy the weekend and stay right here. A fine point
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