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Speaker 1 (00:00):
South Carolina Congresswoman Nancy Mace is a pistol. She's on
the program to bring us inside the effort to slash
government spending and end this shutdown. President Trump is giving
Canada a frosty energy. We'll see what markets might be
impacted if US Canada tentions continue to escalate. And we'll
hit the campaign trail with a brigadier general congressional hopeful
(00:20):
from Florida and a report from a New Jersey election
that is just days away. It's all next to the
Matt Gates Show. Let's do this shaking up Washington, d C.
We're breaking the fever.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Do you ever watch this guy on television.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
It's like a machine.
Speaker 4 (00:36):
He's great.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
Matt Gates.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
As we join you this evening, the US federal government
remains shut down now in the middle of its third week.
Over half a million federal workers have missed their first
full paycheck. And before that makes you too happy, there
are a lot of patriotic Americans in that group who
do important jobs for all of US. States are warning
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that federal food aid programs like SNAP could be suspended
by November. So rash it out that Halloween candy kids,
because it might be a while before the snap calories
hit the dining room table.
Speaker 4 (01:12):
You have Chuck Schumer to thank for that.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
The shutdown is already costing the economy lost GDP growth,
and I wonder is that the point? Are Democrats willing
to put a wet blanket over the American economy just
because they hate Trump? And if they are, doesn't that
mean they actually hate Trump enough to hate the rest
of US. Senator John Fetterman is shockingly the voice of
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reason in the Democratic Party. He had strong words about
Schumer's shutdown. Take a listen.
Speaker 5 (01:41):
It's groundhog Day, you know, And I'm just saying, and
it's not entertaining. That's a great movie, but this is
and now it's like, now real damage is going to
are now touching the lives of regular Americans and we
all lose, and it's embarrassing.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
Looks like Fetterman maybe getting things right. He's obviously their
twenty twenty eight front runner. The Federal Aviation Administration warned
Americans of possible air travel disruptions due to unpaid air
traffic controllers and other staffing issues.
Speaker 4 (02:14):
Our skies were already.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
Dangerous enough, with Biden having put every DEI higher he
could find an air traffic control.
Speaker 4 (02:22):
Now we're asking these people to go without pay.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
What if the good ones just stop showing up to
work and it's the DEI higher behind them that's having
to do more hours with essential staff working without pay
and absences, rising risks to schedules, inspection and safety oversight
will definitely increase. The continued shutdown undermines confidence in US
governance and borrowing capacity. That's kind of important when we've
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crossed the threshold of thirty eight trillion dollars in debt.
One rating agency sited the shutdown as one of the
negative indicators on America's credit rating. States that rely on
federal funding or services may delays or cuts and reimbursements
that'll make budgeting harder for state and local governments. And
then there's the all important military pay. President Trump directed
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the Department of War to use all available funds, including
eight billion dollars in unobligated research and development money, to
ensure military pay. On October fifteenth, yesterday, President Trump announced
that a donor stepped in to shore up the Department
of worst budget shortfalls.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
Take a listen, a friend of mine, a man that's
great I'm not going to use his name unless he
lets me do it as soon as he can tell
you about this, But he was. He called us the
other day and he said, I'd like to contribute any
shortfall you have because of the Democrat shutdown. But he
gave us a check for one hundred and thirty million dollars,
which was sort of a short for yeah, and it's
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going to go to the military.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
Now, it remains unclear to us if those pay protections
or private donor support will be enough to get us
beyond the next pay period if.
Speaker 4 (03:57):
The shutdown continues.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
Joining us now, South Carolina congresswoman and candidate for governor
of South Carolina, Nancy Mace, a congressman. I know you
care deeply about our military, big military presence in the
Palmetto State. How long can the administration maintain these stopgap
measures to ensure that they're not missing paychecks?
Speaker 6 (04:18):
Well, not much longer. The next paycheck our military should
receive will be on November first. Donald Trump, of course,
was able to find some money in commerce and in
tariffs and some access revenue to get them paid on
the fifteenth. But we are quickly running out of time.
It's not just our troops. It's families who might rely
on SNAP. Those might include our troops. An enlisted E
one soldier is making between twenty six and twenty seven
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thousand dollars a year. They are living below the poverty line.
They also benefit from SNAP and other government programs to
put food on the table. And Democrats they want to
continue the shutdowns so our troops don't get paid because
they're asking for trillions of dollars for things to benefit
illegal aliens. I don't know if you saw this, Matt,
but they want two point three I read million dollars
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for locusts in Africa.
Speaker 4 (05:04):
That's so reopen the government that I had not seen that.
That is very bizarre.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
But with those real impacts you just described, is there
any indication that Senate Democrats are feeling the heat to
vote to reopen the government.
Speaker 4 (05:17):
No, not yet.
Speaker 6 (05:18):
In fact, we're seeing some Democrats actually acknowledge that people
are going to feel pain, and their pain and suffering
is leverage for the Democrats, which is really disgusting because
we're talking about in order for them to reopen the government,
they want one point five trillion dollars in spending, to
include two hundred billion dollars for health care for illegal aliens,
two point three million dollars for insects in Africa, tens
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of millions of dollars for LGBTQI and Zimbabwe, feminine democracy
and Honduras, like millions of dollars for all these programs
that don't benefit Americans and don't.
Speaker 7 (05:50):
Share our values.
Speaker 6 (05:51):
By the way, that's what they want, and you know
they're going to keep the government shut down, it seems
like for the longest government shutdown in US history, all
because Chuck Schumer doesn't want to be primary by a
former bartender named AOC.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
How are you telling your constituents to prepare for the
risk of this extended shutdown if they're so dug in.
Speaker 6 (06:12):
Well, we are talking with financial institutions, banks, and credit
unions here in South Carolina encouraging them to ensure that
if someone misses a car payment, who's a federal government
worker or who's in the military, that their car doesn't
get repossessed, that their homes they don't get kicked out
of their homes. Right now, we're also encouraging some of
our financial institutions to offer emergency short term loans at
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a very low rate of two or three percent very
short time until the government reopens, and would be paid
back when those federal government employees get back pay things
that will be helpful to the community, that are smart,
that are effective, don't break the bank, and keep people
in their homes and keep their cars and keep food
on the table.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
Democrats are saying that there is this cliff with the
Obamacare subsidies that they want to extinguish. It, of course,
was a cliff of their own construction. But what do
you think the right policy choice is there ultimately on
the extension of some of these COVID subsidies. Should they
go away, should they be guardrailed? What would be your approach?
Speaker 6 (07:11):
Well, they I mean, the sub seeds are actually part
of the problem of what's making healthcare so expensive. I
don't know if you saw Mark Cuban's a video the
other day, I found I was shocked that I would
actually agree with Mark Cuban. But the regulatory environment in
the marketplace in the healthcare has created these spikes, including
the subsidies, and including things like the middleman like PBMs,
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the lack of transparency and pharmaceutical pricing, which is why
trump RX is such a great idea. So people can
get the best bang for their buck when it comes
to paying for prescription drugs and the pricing and the
transparency they're Trump did that. I think it's going to
take a lot of work to repeal some of the
things that are the reason why healthcare is so expensive.
(07:56):
I know, in my own home state of South Carolina,
I had author a bill when I was a state
lawmaker years ago that would ban the government from keeping
hospitals and medical facilities for oak from opening, which was
called a certificate of need, another burdensome government regulation when
the market could decide what medical care is needed in
a certain region or county or whatever. But there are
many regulations that have and subsities that have caused the
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cost of healthcare to skyrocket.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
And a lot of times, as you and I both know,
states don't have the flexibility to be able to design
their own healthcare systems or social safety net systems.
Speaker 4 (08:29):
Because they would impair their federal draw down.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
I actually think this is an underutilized feature of the
Trump administration. Not enough governors are requesting waivers from these
federal requirements to go and innovate and do their own thing.
What are some of the waivers you would request from
the Trump administration as governor of South Carolina.
Speaker 8 (08:48):
Well, you could do.
Speaker 6 (08:49):
That with Medicaid. You could do that at the state level,
and that's one of the things that we would do
as governor. But also you know, in our state of
South Carolina, the Certificate of Need program away about two
years ago. That was a recommendation by the early first
Trump administration December of twenty eighteen when the report came
out of the administration to do away with the regulations
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that we're preventing competition in the marketplace. One of the
other things that we have in South Carolina, we have
these burdensome contracts. So if you're you're a doctor working
at a hospital, there are provisions in there that don't
allow you to work in the same county or the
same area where you were previously employed. And so you
have doctors and positions at the move out of town
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to keep working. And so some of these contracts we
have to I think go back and renegotiate with hospitals,
with hospital associations to say, wait a minute, if someone
leaves the hospital, they shouldn't be banned from working in
the same town that they were working. In previously. So
competition in the marketplace is a good thing, and Trump's
trump rx dot Com is a great step in the
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right direction having transparency, But there's a lot more to
do at the federal and the state level.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
Do you think Speaker Johnson will bring members of Congress
back to Washington to do some of that productive work
that you described, or is this a matter where you
guys are staying out of Washington until Senate Democrats come
to their senses and reopen the government.
Speaker 6 (10:13):
We've been told to stay out of DC until Democrats
do the right thing and vote for the American people.
And who knows when that's going to be, but it
looks like we're going to have that. We're here for
the long haul and that it will be probably the
longest government shut down in US history.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
South Carolina also has hundreds of thousands of people who
see their jobs tied to trade. You have huge ports,
you have a lot of manufacturing in South Carolina. How
do you assess the Trump trade agenda thus far and
how do you think you can help the president as
the governor of South Carolina.
Speaker 6 (10:46):
Well, it has actually been very good for South Carolina,
particularly with the vehicle and car manufacturing industry. We have
BMW here, Volvo, Mercedes, Benz vans here that are looking
to expand because of the incentives to come back and
make those things in America, and so we're looking at
some of these companies expanding their manufacturing here in South Carolina,
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which then means other companies, small businesses, subcontractors coming in
and also filling the market. Our biggest challenge in South Carolina,
because of the benefit and the incentives that Trump has
to bring manufacturing back to the States and back to
places like South Carolina, is having this skilled workforce here
in our state so that we're not importing workers from.
Speaker 7 (11:28):
Out of state.
Speaker 6 (11:28):
Because we are the fourth fastest growing state in the
country right now, and the growth is exponential. It has
drastically increased the cost of living. And my goal as
governor is to ensure that if you're not going to college,
that you graduate from high school certified in a trade
so you can take one of these high paying, high
skilled jobs immediately right off the shelf. As an eighteen
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year old kid.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
Boeing told me, that's why they expanded in South Carolina
precisely because there was a there was a desire I
think that was when you were in the legislature to
really lash the relevance of what you're training to what
somebody can do in their economic output. Final question for you, Congresoman,
how long is this going to last? I mean, should
we expect this to be the new normal, just a
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rolling shutdown for months on end, or do you think
at some point, after paychecks are missed over and over
there'll be enough pressure on these Democrats to do the
right thing.
Speaker 6 (12:23):
It's really hard to say. I thought after the first
paycheck was missed and after the No Kings protest on
Saturday last weekend, that Democrats would come to their senses,
and they are not. Their heels are dug in. They
are looking on with glee at the suffering of American
citizens and thinking that's somehow, some way that they can
play chess, and it's ridiculous. I wanted to add one
(12:44):
more thing on your last comment about boeing in South
Carolina is that South Carolina is a right to work state.
So if you want to get rid of employees who
are part of unions, labor unions and other states, you
need to look at South Carolina because that doesn't fly here.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
She's already, she's already the pitching South Carolina as a
place of economic opportunity. The congressom Nancy may stay safe
on the trail. I hope you're able to get back
to Washington and work on some of those good.
Speaker 8 (13:10):
Ideas soon and to see you.
Speaker 6 (13:12):
Thank you, Matt.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
And coming up, we see rising tensions between the United
States and Canada. President Trump has issued a threat the
Canadians are running bad TV ads. We can't wait to
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I Tariffs inevitably leave to retaliation by foreign countries and
the triggering of fierce trade wards.
Speaker 10 (15:47):
Then the worst happens.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
Market shrink and collapse, businesses and industry shutdown, and millions.
Speaker 7 (15:54):
Of people lose their jobs.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
Throughout the world.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
There's a growing realization that the way to prosperity for
oral nations is rejecting protectionist legislation and promoting fair and
free competition.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
What you just watched is the seventy five million dollar
foreign propaganda video that led President Trump to terminate tariff
negotiations with Canada. In a truth social post last night,
the President accused Canada of interfering with our courts and
trying to get favorable rulings on tariffs. Here's how Secretary
of State Marco Rubio reacted. Take a listen.
Speaker 11 (16:30):
What happened is one of the leaders in Canada was
running ads in the United States entree on tariffs that
took President Reagan's words out of context. Even the Reagan
Foundation criticized them for it.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
So before we even get into the merits of the clip,
I cannot help but think what a terrible return on
investment for spending seventy five million dollars. It almost makes
USAID's thirty two thousand dollars investment in Peruvian transgender comic
books look like a really sound choice by comparison, And
it wasn't even effective propaganda that's the hilarious part. For
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seventy five million dollars, you would hope to bring people
to your viewpoint on something, but here quite the opposite happened.
Since President Trump implemented his tariffs. By all appearances, the
stock market is surging, manufacturing investment is going through the roof,
and Americans are being paid better than ever. Here with this,
now to discuss an economist at the Heritage Foundation, doctor
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Peter saint On. Doctor saint O, thanks for joining us.
How are you currently assessing the current rise in US
Canada attentions?
Speaker 12 (17:34):
Yeah, Canada has actually been a lot thornier than I
think people expected so far.
Speaker 7 (17:38):
Mark Carney has not wanted the deal.
Speaker 12 (17:41):
He's wanted to protect Canada's own financial industry and agriculture industries.
You're very powerful in Canada, specifically, the dairy industry is
bizarrely powerful up there.
Speaker 7 (17:51):
He does want to open things up.
Speaker 12 (17:52):
And so you pair that together with the fact that
Canada's new Prime Minister, Mark Carney, he sort of framed
himself as the anti te and that's really that's really
the reason.
Speaker 7 (18:03):
Why he won the election. He was trailing in the polls.
Speaker 12 (18:06):
It looked like a shoe in for the Conservative and
then he framed it as this elbows up.
Speaker 7 (18:11):
Now skeptics say elbows.
Speaker 12 (18:13):
Up, pants down, But at any rate, he's framed himself
as the anti Trump, the Trump fighter, the defender of
Canadian sovereignty.
Speaker 7 (18:20):
So he's kind of backed himself into a corner.
Speaker 12 (18:23):
And then when it really blew up in this past week,
is that the Province of Ontario, which is headed by
another guy, Doug Ford, who's been similarly combative towards Trump.
The Province of Ontario did a massive ad by across
two hundred American cities where they manipulated a video of
Ronald Reagan to create the impression that Ronald Reagan was
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uniformly against tariffs.
Speaker 7 (18:46):
So, first of all, that's false. Reagan put a lot.
Speaker 12 (18:50):
In fact, about twenty percent of our imports under Ronald
Reagan were under protectionist policies who were primarily against the Japanese,
who at the time were sort of conquering the entire country.
So Reagan had a very nuanced opinion about tariffs. He
thought that they were a positive thing if we needed
to protect our own industries or to count our unfair trade.
Speaker 7 (19:12):
But more than that, I think Trump was really sort.
Speaker 12 (19:14):
Of offended because this massive ad by He felt like
it was going around him in the negotiations, and that
the Province of Ontario was essentially trying to tip the balance,
almost like election interference. They were trying to get to
the Supreme Court. A huge part of the ad buy
was in the Washington, DC market, so he I think
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for Trump felt like they were sort of negotiating in
bad faith. So he posted on truth Social he said,
deals off, We're not interested.
Speaker 7 (19:41):
We're not going to talk to you guys. We don't
think that you're negotiating in good faith.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
Yeah, we don't even let the Marlborough Man advertise in
the United States. But the notion that we're going to
let a foreign government try to influence policy here that
way is quite something. What do you think the sweet
spot is for this trade negotiation and is there still
path where both sides can win?
Speaker 7 (20:03):
Yeah?
Speaker 12 (20:03):
Well, I think Canada is definitely hurting a lot more
About one in five jobs in Canada is exporting.
Speaker 7 (20:09):
To the United States. They need a deal.
Speaker 12 (20:13):
Jeep just announced they were pulling a thirteen billion dollar
deal out of Canada. That's a lot of money in Canada.
It was also jeep's biggest overseas investment ever. They just
pulled that out of Canada. They brought it into Ohio
and Illinois. So Canada economically is in trouble. The trick
is that carneie like the people who are losing their jobs, right,
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if Canadian car factories go or if Canada can't export oil,
the people who are losing their jobs are blue collars.
These are not people who voted liberal anyway, right, these
are conservative voters.
Speaker 7 (20:44):
So politically he might keep fighting. You know, Trump has
been pretty clear since the start.
Speaker 12 (20:49):
That what he wants is for Canada open up its markets.
There are obscene levels of tariffs. I think on milk
it's like one hundred and forty five percent. It's just
comical levels of tariffs that they put again and stu
us And that's bizarre because you know, saying that one
in five Canadian jobs exports to America, for US, it's
like one in forty. In other words, Canada needs us
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much more than we need them.
Speaker 7 (21:12):
Yet for you know.
Speaker 12 (21:14):
Decades, American politicians, if let Canada get away with these
obscene tariffs, and then we've never done anything in return.
Speaker 7 (21:20):
So I think what Trump expects is that.
Speaker 12 (21:22):
Canada is going to open up these long protected markets
and there may be a tariff stuck on there. It
may look like Japan or Europe, where you've got a
fifteen percent tariff that's one sided, so our goods go
in free, their goods coming at fifteen percent, and given
the power imbalance, that would make a lot of economic sense.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
Yeah, that might be the place that it ultimately lands,
and if you're right about the points of leverage, will
probably get there sooner rather than later. But if we
are going to isolate and analyze the impact in US markets,
I am curious where you think that will emerge. I
mean in Florida as long as they still keep approving
for the visas for the Canadian snowbirds, like well, you know,
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the blue Light special and the three pm dinner will
still be okay. But throughout the country, where do you
see that impact being felt?
Speaker 12 (22:12):
Yeah, I mean short term, the Canadian media, which is
uniformly left wing. It's like the US media, like pre
brush limball, so they've been hyping these stories about Canadians
not buying American goods or not coming to Florida. Fundamentally,
things are much cheaper here. You look at house prices
in Canada, they're absolutely off the charts, like everywhere in
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Canada at San Francisco level, the wages in Canada West
Virginia level. You know, people say one thing, but when
it comes down to the pocketbook, I think you're going
to continue to see Canadian tourists coming in. You're going
to continue to see snowbirds, people buying property overseas. You've
got thousands of Canadians who come to America for medical
care because they're on a nine month wait.
Speaker 7 (22:54):
List for a hip replacement.
Speaker 12 (22:56):
I don't think, you know, media up north is going
to hype all this. Fundamentally, people Canadians buy American goods,
they come to America, they vacation here for other reasons.
It's the weather, it's the prices, it's the home prices. Honestly,
I think that you know, in this interim period, everybody's
sort of waiting and seeing where it's going to come out.
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I think most likely we're going to come out at
fifteen percent. It's going to look a lot like the
European and the Japanese deals. And either way, I don't
think long term there's gonna be a big impact to
the relationship or to you know, spending by Canadians in
the US.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
Let's hope it's a temporary spat. Peter saint IgE, thank
you so much for joining us and share your perspective.
Speaker 7 (23:35):
Thanks for having me on and.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
Coming up, we will look into the campaign over Proposition
fifty in California. This would dilute Republican representation in Congress
across the country. Vincrudevendi is running for Congress in California
and he's here to explain.
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Next.
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California Governor Gavin Newsom runs a state that cleans up
best when Chinese communists come to visit most of the time,
Californians have to balance perfect weather and boundless natural resources
with vagrant homeless, crippling taxes, schools that might trans your kids,
and criminals who are rarely incarcerated.
Speaker 4 (26:26):
But we will give him this.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
He's not shy about seizing power, and an election is
happening right now in California to dilute your power no
matter where you live in this country. It's called Proposition
fifty and it's featured messaging from Newsom himself and former
President Barack Obama. If passed, Proposition fifty would jerrymander California,
zapping as many as five Republican seats just off the map.
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Indiana recently had the opportunity to redraw their maps. In response,
they refused. Call it midwestern nice. That's not what they're outstanding.
Senator Jim Banks wanted to see Indiana.
Speaker 10 (27:05):
We're having this conversation Governor Braun, and the state legislature
is looking at redrawing the maps. Indiana is a very
republican state. We have nine congressional seats, seven Republicans and
two Democrats, so you can fairly draw the districts in
Indiana to end up with a nine to zero Republican maps.
I think the evidence in front of us, and my
letter to Secretary of Utnik yesterday justifies the Indiana legislature
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redrawing those maps.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
The current Republican majority in the House is about four seats.
Newsom is set to steal five.
Speaker 4 (27:36):
And if he.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
Can claim that this little move that he orchestrated is
the reason AOC and Jamie Raskin and Hockeim Jeffries have
power to torment President Trump and his administration, Newsom might
just sail to the Democrat nomination for the presidency in
twenty twenty eight. So how is the effort going to
(27:57):
stop Newsom's steal? Joining us now now California congressional candidate
Vin CRIDIVENTI So, Vin, you and I held a rally
this week in Fresno against Proposition fifty.
Speaker 4 (28:08):
The crowd was great.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
The people were really enthusiastically opposed to that measure. Are
you hearing that folks are getting out and telling their
friends to motivate against this attack on our democracy.
Speaker 13 (28:20):
The biggest issue, Congressman Gates has been the turnout Republican
voter turnout, and your presence definitely helped rally up a
lot of Bagga Republicans, but if you look at the
number of ballots returned, the number is really low, and
then we could do a lot better. And we think
(28:41):
in the coming days we need to step up as
Republicans and then get the vote out. But definitely picking up,
but not to my satisfaction.
Speaker 4 (28:50):
Though you're running for Congress in the Central Valley.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
Why is Republican representation in the House of Representatives important
to Californians?
Speaker 13 (29:00):
So Central Valley fits half of the nation and it's
mostly rural agriculture, and with this jerry mandering, what's happening
is they're mixing rural with parts of like you know,
cities and examples. Some of the cities are broken up
(29:21):
into like four or six parts. And this jerry mandering
is so bad that if you look at Congressman Kevin
Kylie's district, it looks like an elephant trunk and all
the weird shapes, like you know, some looks like really
cobwebs and some look like you know, really canals like
you know, going up and down the state. So this
(29:43):
is really important to have representation for the rural voices,
to make sure that the things that matter them. Really
their voices are heard in Congress.
Speaker 1 (29:56):
California has sent different kinds of Republicans to Congress. Some
of the very best, like Devin Nunaz, came out of
the Central Valley and really stood right with President Trump.
Others we sort of find hiding under their bed. Whenever
there's an important fight. What kind of Republican will you
be in the House of Representatives?
Speaker 13 (30:13):
I am an America First Trump Republican, and one of
the biggest things that's really important to me is to
win this back for us and stand with President Trump
when it matters the most. We do not seem to
side with the best president the US had in this history,
and we need to do what is right for the country.
(30:36):
Imagine like you know, the things, the big, best, greater
things that happened to our country within like first ten months.
And we do not want all of the Russia hoaks
nonsense to start again. And we need to make sure
that we deliver the numbers and stand with President Trump.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
President Trump is working to rescue the American economy amid
this shutdown. You've got extensive business experience. You help small
businesses still to this day. How do you think you
can help President Trump achieve his economic goals.
Speaker 13 (31:13):
Basic and foremost thing is like, you know, balance the budget, right,
And some of the nonsense that we hear is that like, oh,
like we need to stop raising our threshold for the budget.
But it is like having a line of credit. You're
(31:34):
not spending it, but you need it when you need it.
So from all of the rhetoric about the economy tanking,
now look at where our stock market is the highest
it's ever been. We've got every single country at knocking
it our doorstep to make a deal. This is the
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presidency where we have to be one hundred percent behind
eight wars ended so far, and what else can you imagine,
like can you expect from a president? He's delivered what
many presidents couldn't deliver in forty years.
Speaker 4 (32:14):
You mentioned balancing the budget.
Speaker 1 (32:16):
One way the Trump administration reduced unnecessary expenditures was in
the area of foreign aid, and now Democrats are demanding
all of that foreign aid be restored to reopen the
government for essential services here in our country. What do
you think is the right foreign aid budget for the
United States?
Speaker 13 (32:36):
Once we take care of our people internally, there is like,
you know, rest of the things that we can worry
about our veterans are on the streets, Our veterans are homeless,
There is a lot of unemployment. But then in the
name of foreign aid, Democrats sent billions of dollars outside
(32:57):
brought in through like nonprofit and then it went right
back into their pockets. The right amount of foreign aid
is where we can say this benefits America first, there's.
Speaker 1 (33:15):
Sure and right now it might be even beyond foreign aid.
There might be some domestic reductions in federal spending through
this shutdown. Where would you want to see the Office
of Management and Budget really bear down and squeeze, squeeze
the budget and get the dollars out for the taxpayer.
Speaker 13 (33:32):
We are Republicans, right, and what that means is small
government and efficiencies and better we like you know, there
are ways to improve our efficiencies. We have to look
at ways and means. The way is to balance the
budget is to increase the top line or slash like
(33:54):
your expenses. So what we've seen so far billions and millions,
in fact, hundreds of billions of dollars in investment that
President got for us. That's going to increase the bottom line.
Doage cuts and like you know, all of the rest
of the things are improving the bottom line, and this
is a golden opportunity for us to gut all of
(34:17):
the waste that these Democrats want to like slash. They
want to prioritize health care for illegals, then take care
of Americans. And it is a Schumer shutdown.
Speaker 4 (34:30):
It truly is.
Speaker 1 (34:31):
And we hope that what they want to do is
get a majority in the House of Representatives so that
they can always force these shutdowns and hold good policy hostage.
And they're trying to steal seats from good folks in California,
and Vin's out there on the campaign trail trying to
stop them. So am I Vinkrudavinti, candidate for Congress in
the Central District, An America, First Republican.
Speaker 4 (34:51):
Thanks for joining us on the program. We wish you well,
stay safe on the trail.
Speaker 13 (34:55):
Thank you, Congressman Gates.
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It's an honor.
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Speaker 1 (38:15):
In just days, on November fourth, New Jersey will elect
a new governor. Jersey is a blue state, but in
off year elections, Republicans can sometimes catch the opposition off guard,
and these off year governor's races are often a prelude
to the all important mid terms. The key difference in
the Republican approach in twenty twenty four and twenty twenty
(38:36):
five compared to I would say twenty twenty and twenty
sixteen is ballot harvesting.
Speaker 4 (38:41):
We are making a real effort at this on the.
Speaker 1 (38:43):
Political right, door to door phone calls, sometimes even broader
voter harassment to get folks to submit their ballot. Cliff
Maloney led the successful Pennsylvania ballot chase effort. He's been
deployed to New Jersey and offered this assessment of the race.
Speaker 14 (38:59):
Recently, on our we have launched a New Jersey chase program.
We've got one hundred and five individuals in the state
of New Jersey. I'm here right now out in Morristown,
New Jersey, but we're chasing ballots. I mean poles recently
have it as tightened as forty four, forty four, forty three,
forty three. If we compete by mail and early, and
we do what we did in twenty one in terms
(39:20):
of turnout, Jack Chitarelli will be the next governor of
New Jersey.
Speaker 1 (39:25):
So where does the race stand now? Just days away
from a reckoning, We'll voter as gift Democrat Congresswoman Mikey
Cheryl a chance. She's the congresswoman who couldn't remember how
much stock trading had made her as a lawmaker.
Speaker 11 (39:38):
So when Newsmax claimed that you made seven million dollars
from stock trades, what are you talking about?
Speaker 15 (39:44):
News Max is first of all, a very questionable organization
that is.
Speaker 4 (39:49):
Paying multiple fines. I'm not sure what they're talking about. Well,
did you make seven million in stock trades at all?
I I haven't.
Speaker 12 (39:59):
I don't believe I did, but I'd have to go
see what that was alluding to a rough moment.
Speaker 1 (40:06):
Well, we see that ascend to leadership? Or will Jack Chitarelli,
a former state lawmaker, find the magic in his second
run for the governorship, joining us now Chairman of the
America First Republicans of New Jersey Mike Chrispy. So, Mike,
is this one going to be a nail bier in
the New Jersey governor's race?
Speaker 15 (40:24):
You know, everybody in twenty twenty four didn't think that
President Trump had a shot in New Jersey, and he
ended up coming within five points. He sent a message
that this state is in play. Jack Chinarelli is running
a great campaign. He's embraced President Trump's message. He's collaborating
and working with him, holding teletown halls, going around with
(40:45):
other Trump surrogates around the state. And right now all
the polling mat has this race within three points. I
think if the pollsters are saying that, that means this
thing is even closer than that. I think Jack Chitarelli,
who came within three points last time, has an amazing
shot to win this thing and take the lead here
in the final eleven days.
Speaker 1 (41:05):
Yeah, Chitdarelli did run four years ago, and came up
just short. And in that race, he refused to endorse
President Trump or seek President Trump's support. Do you think
he would have won four years ago if he'd have
done that.
Speaker 15 (41:18):
I think he would have actually, And you know, when
he was running that race, he had some people around him.
I can tell you from personal experience, some advisors that
were telling him to stay away from President Trump. And
if you look at the numbers, President Trump got two
million votes in the state of New Jersey. Jack Chitarelly
in his last election got one point one million votes.
So the enthusiasm factors on Trump's size. The voters are
(41:39):
here in the state that vote for President Trump. And
if Jack Chittarelli I always said, if he can excite
the Trump base and engage those low propensity to moderate
propensity Trump voters, he will win this election.
Speaker 3 (41:51):
Thank goodness, he's done it. I was there that night
when he got.
Speaker 15 (41:54):
Together with President Trump at Bedminster and buried the hatchet.
I'm glad they're working together, and I'm glad they're a
find of the most important issues.
Speaker 1 (42:01):
Matt And what are those issues in the issue matrix
that seem to be driving voters interest in the race.
Speaker 15 (42:07):
Well, the first and foremost thing is obviously deporting illegal aliens.
We have a massive problem in this country where our
own commerce woman, La Monica mcguiver, this thug is throwing
her body in front of ice officers attempting to do
their job. So people see that, they see the way
in which they want to keep this sanctuary state, and
they say no way. That is the first and foremost
most important thing, law and order. Additionally, we have the
(42:31):
Democratic candidates who want to defund the police at unleash anarchy.
And additional to that mat we have people who want
to essentially have more expensive energy at the expense of
having a green New deal initiative that makes them feel good.
Speaker 3 (42:47):
So that's what we're faced with right now.
Speaker 15 (42:49):
President Trump and jection really are going to work together
the lower costs and keep our community safer and get
the illegals on delay back out of the country.
Speaker 1 (42:57):
So many folks in New Jersey interact with the New
York media.
Speaker 4 (43:02):
They see it. They many work in New York.
Speaker 1 (43:05):
And with New York City poised to elect Zoron Mamdani
as mayor a socialist, do you think that could have
some more centrist voters in Jersey thinking that maybe a
Republican governor, maybe a red state, just a bridge or
a tunnel away might be a really important thing to
support an embrace.
Speaker 3 (43:23):
Well, it's a great question.
Speaker 15 (43:25):
And Mikey Cheryl, the Democrat nominee, she endorsed so on Mandanbie.
Speaker 3 (43:29):
So how far apart are they on the issues?
Speaker 15 (43:32):
Anytime Mikey has had the chance to cut out as
a moderate, he's come out as a radical. She's the
one who called Charlie Kirk a vile Christian nationalist days
after his assassination.
Speaker 3 (43:43):
That's not moderate policies.
Speaker 15 (43:45):
She's the one defending La Monica mcguiver, the one who
assaulted the Iceholt, So that's not moderate policies. She's the
one who said she would not take off the table
raising the sales tax. That's not moderate policies. So I
think Matt, that people see this. I think they see
what's going on with Zoron. They understand that New York
is really at this point, there's no way you can
(44:05):
slice it. It's headed for an implosion, and that New
Jersey can be the bastion and it can be the
safeguard for people with common sense who have family members
in the area. Who might want to leave New York
and have a safe haven for them to live just
a normal life.
Speaker 8 (44:19):
Matt.
Speaker 15 (44:19):
That's what this is about, and I think is going
to help Jack here, especially as this second debate with
Zoron just concluded and people see his radical policies on
full display.
Speaker 1 (44:30):
We saw that dynamic when Glenn Youngkin was elected governor
of Virginia.
Speaker 4 (44:34):
As DC got worse and worse.
Speaker 1 (44:36):
Youngkin gave people hope that they could cross the river
and criminals would actually be thrown in jail, there would
be fair tax policies, the schools wouldn't embrace some of
the strangest features of critical race theory and gender identity
are some of those culture war issues playing out in
the New Jersey race. Are those issues that Republicans believe
(44:57):
will actually help motivate their voters.
Speaker 15 (45:00):
Say, one of the biggest issues in this state is
that our teachers Union, okayt the NJEA controls the curriculum,
and they have second graders learning sex said and learning
about just perverse things they won't even say on the air.
That's New Jersey policy. We used to have public schools
that are ranked number two in the country. Now are
ranked number twelve, and the only difference in that time
(45:21):
are the radical teacher union bosses who have put this
depraved ideology as a mandate into the classrooms in.
Speaker 3 (45:28):
Our public schools.
Speaker 15 (45:29):
It is definitely on the front lines and the issue
of men playing in women's in girls' sports, multiple instances
of that throughout the state. If you look at the
way our education system, which used to be a proud
point in New Jersey, people used to say, we had
great public schools. It was working great, it was a
great system. We are now failing. We're going to be
at the middle of the pack of the whole country.
And what do we do We pay the most in taxes.
(45:50):
How does that make any sense? Check Cindarelli is going
to fix that. Share will only continue with Matt.
Speaker 1 (45:56):
These governors' races that we get in off years, oftentimes
times portend to broader themes that we see developed in
the midterm elections. What are you seeing in this race
in Jersey that you can say, I can tell you
right now this is something that's going to be litigated
in a number of the swing districts around the country.
Speaker 15 (46:14):
Well, this is obviously the lynchpin for the mid terms.
People are talking already about twenty twenty eight. It's unbelievable.
And I think if you look at the way the
Democrats right now are running this race in New Jersey,
and if you look at what's happening in Washington and
around swing states, this issue of the government shutdown, Mikey
Cheryl is running Trump Trump shut down in the government
(46:35):
and Jack Chitarelli is going to be Trump's puppet, and
that message again, they continue to run it, they continue
to say it. It's every other word you hear on
the campaign trail from the Democrats, but it's not resonating
with voters. Matt, they don't even know the government shut down, okay.
So I think that this is a tell, it's a
tael that if they can't run on the shut down narrative,
what else are they going to run on? So I
(46:56):
think we're going to see more of that. That's why
I think they're going to keep the government shut down,
because they're going to throw it all on the table.
They've got nothing left. They've tried everything to derail Trump.
It hasn't worked. I guess they're going to keep the
shutdown scam, going to keep themselves having a talking point, Matt,
I think.
Speaker 4 (47:11):
No, it's a really good point you're making.
Speaker 1 (47:12):
Actually, you're what you're saying is that Democrat candidates, even
in places where they're trying to demonstrate themselves as moderates,
they basically have to swallow the whole hook.
Speaker 4 (47:21):
On the shutdown.
Speaker 1 (47:22):
You can't be a Democrat seeking Democrat donors, trying to
rally Democrat activists and hold the view that Senator Fetterman
does that the Democrats should get together and open the
government up. But in places like New Jersey where you
have a lot of federal workers, that becomes really noxious
with folks who might otherwise be pretty motivated to vote
for a Democrat candidate. But yeah, actually, as you lay
(47:44):
it out there, they're gonna have to run on this
in the midterms. Do you assess that by the time
we get to the midterms, this shutdown will be really,
really tough as a point of persuasion to get persuadable
voters to vote for a Democrat.
Speaker 15 (48:00):
Well, I saw the video you're probably alluding to, Matt,
with Fetterman and Senator McCormick and their bull saying, Hey,
we're by partisan, we want to reopen the government. I
see President Trump saying, hey, why don't we just do
this continuing resolution. We don't love continuing resolutions, but it'll
allow the government to stay open and us to continue
to negotiate.
Speaker 3 (48:18):
Why don't they do that?
Speaker 15 (48:20):
And they don't do that because they want to dig
their heels in on illegal aliens getting health benefits. Obviously,
when you look around the country and you look at
these swing districts, anytime you explain that for more than
ten minutes past some type of flashy commercial that says
Trump is going to deprive your health care and take
it away, when you explain it for more than ten minutes,
(48:40):
the people overwhelmingly are on the side of reopening the
government and Democrats coming to the table and in good
faith negotiating with President Trump. Matt, That's what people are
most annoyed about independence in New Jersey because they're not
even trying to do it in good faiths with Trump.
Trump said, I'll have a negotiation, Let's do the CR
and do it. They don't even want to do that.
They're radical.
Speaker 1 (49:01):
Now, it's a really good point you make. It could
be an anchor around all of them. My Chrispy, our
America first man in the Garden State. Thanks so much
for joining us and bringing us up to speed.
Speaker 3 (49:09):
Thank you sir.
Speaker 1 (49:10):
The next we'll head to the campaign trail in the
Sunshine State, where there's a brigadier general who thinks he
can unseat a well known incumbent.
Speaker 4 (49:17):
We'll chat about it next.
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Speaker 1 (51:29):
Ever, we head now to my beloved home state of Florida,
the Sunshine State. Congressman Randy Fine represents parts of Florida,
but not really the parts.
Speaker 4 (51:44):
Where he lives.
Speaker 1 (51:46):
And while Congressman Fine is supposed to serve those constituents
who elected him, there's rising allegation that he's detached Congressman
Fine doesn't live in his district, and some are saying
he's more concerned with foreign policy than with the domestic
issues that are impacting the lives of Floridians.
Speaker 4 (52:02):
Enter Charles Gambarrow.
Speaker 1 (52:04):
He's a Republican city councilman who actually lives in the
sixth Congressional district.
Speaker 4 (52:08):
He holds the rank of Brigadier.
Speaker 1 (52:10):
General in the US Army Reserve and has served national
security roles, including advising the director of National counter Terrorism
Center and working on Middle East strategic affairs. General Charlie
Gumborrow joins US now. So, General tell us, why are
you running for Congress?
Speaker 16 (52:25):
Well, Matt, first of all, it's great to be with you,
and thanks for having me on your show. I'm running
for Congress because my parents from an early age taught
me that, you know, public service provides meeting in life,
and I've had a lifetime of service, not just in
the US Army, but you know, from the school board
(52:46):
to city hall to the White House, in the boardroom
to the battlefield. I bring the leadership experience required to
make a difference for the sixth Congressional District and really
excited about the opportunity to serve in Congress and work
with my fellow conservatives to carry ford the America First agenda.
Speaker 1 (53:07):
You're running against an incumbent and a primary, which is
a challenging thing to do.
Speaker 4 (53:11):
What are the concerns you think aren't being addressed in
your community?
Speaker 16 (53:15):
Well, there are a lot of things. I mean, first
and foremost, you know, our member of Congress, mister not
so Fine, lives about two hours south of the district.
He's not one of us. He's more Israel first, and
I think he's America first. And quite frankly, I'm an
America First candidate. I'm an America First Conservative Republican, and
(53:39):
I wore our nation's uniform for over two decades, defending
America's interest first before anybody else. So sure, he's an incumbent. Sure,
you know it will be a good, tough race for us,
But I'll look forward to a challenge. I look forward
to being the underdog, you know, as an army general
who has spent many, many years serving our nation in combat,
(54:03):
but not only in combat, but in Washington at the Pentagon,
serving four different Secretaries of Defense, UH and also at
the White House, serving as President Trump's one of his
Middle East advisors. You know, I can hit the ground
running in a way that I think. Uh, you know,
mister not so fine has has had some challenges because
(54:23):
he doesn't play.
Speaker 4 (54:24):
You made mention of yeah, you made mention of Israel policy.
Speaker 1 (54:27):
I'm just wondering, what do you think is the right
amount of money for US taxpayers to send to Israel?
Speaker 16 (54:32):
So I think, you know, they're the actual defense of
the country from the air. I worked in the Pentagon
in the Office of the Secretary Defense for Middle East Policy,
where we worked on a massive, massive aid package of
thirty billion dollars for the Iron Dome. I think it's
okay to help protect from the skies, but it has
to be measured and you know, making sure that our
(54:53):
interests are always put first and that that package is
you know, was laid out over time. And know we
believe that the defense of Israel is important, but not
before defending America.
Speaker 1 (55:06):
How much how much funding should the US give Israel
to occupy Gaza?
Speaker 16 (55:11):
Well, I think, you know, I think we need to
start with the end state. You know, what's the requirement? Right?
As President Trump used to ask me when I used
to brief him in the Oval office. What where do
we start with? What's what's the the end state, what's
the effect, what's the objective that we that we want
to go to? And by the way, you know, I
totally support President Trump's initiatives, just like he did with
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NATO and making you know, our NATO partners pay more
for their defense. You know, I think it can't be
all the United States trying to rebuild Gaza. There. There
need to be our European partners and quite frankly, our
Middle East partners need to need to partake and and
that in that huge venture and undertaking. So the right amount,
the right amount, begins with you know, what's the instate,
(55:53):
what's the requirement? What is it that we're trying to do?
Speaker 4 (55:56):
You're on the city council.
Speaker 1 (55:57):
Now, what do you think would be different about Congress
if every member of Congress had to do a stint
on the city council.
Speaker 16 (56:04):
First, well, all politics is local, and I will tell
you I get stopped in publics or you know here
in in Flagler County, out of Flagler Beach, and they
you know, our residents are very clear and blunt on
what they expect from from their their elected officials and
their public officials be the fact that you know, we
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sit and we have public comment and we listened to
weekend and week out the concerns of our residents. It's
it's it's it's humbling because you hear the real concerns
and you try to shape policy as as a council
to try to address that. But you know, like my
father used to say, it's all fun and games till
it affects you. And a lot of the decisions that
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we make at the local level, whether it's moving an
air condition to one side of the unit, or our
council just recently passed an e Byke ordinance, it's uh,
those are those are things that hit people at home
in a way that sometimes national policy initiatives don't. And
so it's it's a humbling experience, and you know, I
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look forward to taking the lessons learned from from my
service on the Pompcost City Council to Washington.
Speaker 1 (57:15):
City Councilman and Brigadier General Charlie Cainborrow. We wish you
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Speaker 11 (58:06):
Yeah,
South Carolina Congresswoman Nancy Mace is a pistol. She's on
the program to bring us inside the effort to slash
government spending and end this shutdown. President Trump is giving
Canada a frosty energy. We'll see what markets might be
impacted if US Canada tentions continue to escalate. And we'll
hit the campaign trail with a brigadier general congressional hopeful
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from Florida and a report from a New Jersey election
that is just days away. It's all next to the
Matt Gates Show. Let's do this shaking up Washington, d C.
We're breaking the fever.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Do you ever watch this guy on television.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
It's like a machine.
Speaker 4 (00:36):
He's great.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
Matt Gates.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
As we join you this evening, the US federal government
remains shut down now in the middle of its third week.
Over half a million federal workers have missed their first
full paycheck. And before that makes you too happy, there
are a lot of patriotic Americans in that group who
do important jobs for all of US. States are warning
(01:01):
that federal food aid programs like SNAP could be suspended
by November. So rash it out that Halloween candy kids,
because it might be a while before the snap calories
hit the dining room table.
Speaker 4 (01:12):
You have Chuck Schumer to thank for that.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
The shutdown is already costing the economy lost GDP growth,
and I wonder is that the point? Are Democrats willing
to put a wet blanket over the American economy just
because they hate Trump? And if they are, doesn't that
mean they actually hate Trump enough to hate the rest
of US. Senator John Fetterman is shockingly the voice of
(01:36):
reason in the Democratic Party. He had strong words about
Schumer's shutdown. Take a listen.
Speaker 5 (01:41):
It's groundhog Day, you know, And I'm just saying, and
it's not entertaining. That's a great movie, but this is
and now it's like, now real damage is going to
are now touching the lives of regular Americans and we
all lose, and it's embarrassing.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
Looks like Fetterman maybe getting things right. He's obviously their
twenty twenty eight front runner. The Federal Aviation Administration warned
Americans of possible air travel disruptions due to unpaid air
traffic controllers and other staffing issues.
Speaker 4 (02:14):
Our skies were already.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
Dangerous enough, with Biden having put every DEI higher he
could find an air traffic control.
Speaker 4 (02:22):
Now we're asking these people to go without pay.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
What if the good ones just stop showing up to
work and it's the DEI higher behind them that's having
to do more hours with essential staff working without pay
and absences, rising risks to schedules, inspection and safety oversight
will definitely increase. The continued shutdown undermines confidence in US
governance and borrowing capacity. That's kind of important when we've
(02:48):
crossed the threshold of thirty eight trillion dollars in debt.
One rating agency sited the shutdown as one of the
negative indicators on America's credit rating. States that rely on
federal funding or services may delays or cuts and reimbursements
that'll make budgeting harder for state and local governments. And
then there's the all important military pay. President Trump directed
(03:09):
the Department of War to use all available funds, including
eight billion dollars in unobligated research and development money, to
ensure military pay. On October fifteenth, yesterday, President Trump announced
that a donor stepped in to shore up the Department
of worst budget shortfalls.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
Take a listen, a friend of mine, a man that's
great I'm not going to use his name unless he
lets me do it as soon as he can tell
you about this, But he was. He called us the
other day and he said, I'd like to contribute any
shortfall you have because of the Democrat shutdown. But he
gave us a check for one hundred and thirty million dollars,
which was sort of a short for yeah, and it's
(03:47):
going to go to the military.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
Now, it remains unclear to us if those pay protections
or private donor support will be enough to get us
beyond the next pay period if.
Speaker 4 (03:57):
The shutdown continues.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
Joining us now, South Carolina congresswoman and candidate for governor
of South Carolina, Nancy Mace, a congressman. I know you
care deeply about our military, big military presence in the
Palmetto State. How long can the administration maintain these stopgap
measures to ensure that they're not missing paychecks?
Speaker 6 (04:18):
Well, not much longer. The next paycheck our military should
receive will be on November first. Donald Trump, of course,
was able to find some money in commerce and in
tariffs and some access revenue to get them paid on
the fifteenth. But we are quickly running out of time.
It's not just our troops. It's families who might rely
on SNAP. Those might include our troops. An enlisted E
one soldier is making between twenty six and twenty seven
(04:39):
thousand dollars a year. They are living below the poverty line.
They also benefit from SNAP and other government programs to
put food on the table. And Democrats they want to
continue the shutdowns so our troops don't get paid because
they're asking for trillions of dollars for things to benefit
illegal aliens. I don't know if you saw this, Matt,
but they want two point three I read million dollars
(05:01):
for locusts in Africa.
Speaker 4 (05:04):
That's so reopen the government that I had not seen that.
That is very bizarre.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
But with those real impacts you just described, is there
any indication that Senate Democrats are feeling the heat to
vote to reopen the government.
Speaker 4 (05:17):
No, not yet.
Speaker 6 (05:18):
In fact, we're seeing some Democrats actually acknowledge that people
are going to feel pain, and their pain and suffering
is leverage for the Democrats, which is really disgusting because
we're talking about in order for them to reopen the government,
they want one point five trillion dollars in spending, to
include two hundred billion dollars for health care for illegal aliens,
two point three million dollars for insects in Africa, tens
(05:40):
of millions of dollars for LGBTQI and Zimbabwe, feminine democracy
and Honduras, like millions of dollars for all these programs
that don't benefit Americans and don't.
Speaker 7 (05:50):
Share our values.
Speaker 6 (05:51):
By the way, that's what they want, and you know
they're going to keep the government shut down, it seems
like for the longest government shutdown in US history, all
because Chuck Schumer doesn't want to be primary by a
former bartender named AOC.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
How are you telling your constituents to prepare for the
risk of this extended shutdown if they're so dug in.
Speaker 6 (06:12):
Well, we are talking with financial institutions, banks, and credit
unions here in South Carolina encouraging them to ensure that
if someone misses a car payment, who's a federal government
worker or who's in the military, that their car doesn't
get repossessed, that their homes they don't get kicked out
of their homes. Right now, we're also encouraging some of
our financial institutions to offer emergency short term loans at
(06:35):
a very low rate of two or three percent very
short time until the government reopens, and would be paid
back when those federal government employees get back pay things
that will be helpful to the community, that are smart,
that are effective, don't break the bank, and keep people
in their homes and keep their cars and keep food
on the table.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
Democrats are saying that there is this cliff with the
Obamacare subsidies that they want to extinguish. It, of course,
was a cliff of their own construction. But what do
you think the right policy choice is there ultimately on
the extension of some of these COVID subsidies. Should they
go away, should they be guardrailed? What would be your approach?
Speaker 6 (07:11):
Well, they I mean, the sub seeds are actually part
of the problem of what's making healthcare so expensive. I
don't know if you saw Mark Cuban's a video the
other day, I found I was shocked that I would
actually agree with Mark Cuban. But the regulatory environment in
the marketplace in the healthcare has created these spikes, including
the subsidies, and including things like the middleman like PBMs,
(07:33):
the lack of transparency and pharmaceutical pricing, which is why
trump RX is such a great idea. So people can
get the best bang for their buck when it comes
to paying for prescription drugs and the pricing and the
transparency they're Trump did that. I think it's going to
take a lot of work to repeal some of the
things that are the reason why healthcare is so expensive.
(07:56):
I know, in my own home state of South Carolina,
I had author a bill when I was a state
lawmaker years ago that would ban the government from keeping
hospitals and medical facilities for oak from opening, which was
called a certificate of need, another burdensome government regulation when
the market could decide what medical care is needed in
a certain region or county or whatever. But there are
many regulations that have and subsities that have caused the
(08:18):
cost of healthcare to skyrocket.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
And a lot of times, as you and I both know,
states don't have the flexibility to be able to design
their own healthcare systems or social safety net systems.
Speaker 4 (08:29):
Because they would impair their federal draw down.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
I actually think this is an underutilized feature of the
Trump administration. Not enough governors are requesting waivers from these
federal requirements to go and innovate and do their own thing.
What are some of the waivers you would request from
the Trump administration as governor of South Carolina.
Speaker 8 (08:48):
Well, you could do.
Speaker 6 (08:49):
That with Medicaid. You could do that at the state level,
and that's one of the things that we would do
as governor. But also you know, in our state of
South Carolina, the Certificate of Need program away about two
years ago. That was a recommendation by the early first
Trump administration December of twenty eighteen when the report came
out of the administration to do away with the regulations
(09:10):
that we're preventing competition in the marketplace. One of the
other things that we have in South Carolina, we have
these burdensome contracts. So if you're you're a doctor working
at a hospital, there are provisions in there that don't
allow you to work in the same county or the
same area where you were previously employed. And so you
have doctors and positions at the move out of town
(09:31):
to keep working. And so some of these contracts we
have to I think go back and renegotiate with hospitals,
with hospital associations to say, wait a minute, if someone
leaves the hospital, they shouldn't be banned from working in
the same town that they were working. In previously. So
competition in the marketplace is a good thing, and Trump's
trump rx dot Com is a great step in the
(09:53):
right direction having transparency, But there's a lot more to
do at the federal and the state level.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
Do you think Speaker Johnson will bring members of Congress
back to Washington to do some of that productive work
that you described, or is this a matter where you
guys are staying out of Washington until Senate Democrats come
to their senses and reopen the government.
Speaker 6 (10:13):
We've been told to stay out of DC until Democrats
do the right thing and vote for the American people.
And who knows when that's going to be, but it
looks like we're going to have that. We're here for
the long haul and that it will be probably the
longest government shut down in US history.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
South Carolina also has hundreds of thousands of people who
see their jobs tied to trade. You have huge ports,
you have a lot of manufacturing in South Carolina. How
do you assess the Trump trade agenda thus far and
how do you think you can help the president as
the governor of South Carolina.
Speaker 6 (10:46):
Well, it has actually been very good for South Carolina,
particularly with the vehicle and car manufacturing industry. We have
BMW here, Volvo, Mercedes, Benz vans here that are looking
to expand because of the incentives to come back and
make those things in America, and so we're looking at
some of these companies expanding their manufacturing here in South Carolina,
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which then means other companies, small businesses, subcontractors coming in
and also filling the market. Our biggest challenge in South Carolina,
because of the benefit and the incentives that Trump has
to bring manufacturing back to the States and back to
places like South Carolina, is having this skilled workforce here
in our state so that we're not importing workers from.
Speaker 7 (11:28):
Out of state.
Speaker 6 (11:28):
Because we are the fourth fastest growing state in the
country right now, and the growth is exponential. It has
drastically increased the cost of living. And my goal as
governor is to ensure that if you're not going to college,
that you graduate from high school certified in a trade
so you can take one of these high paying, high
skilled jobs immediately right off the shelf. As an eighteen
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year old kid.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
Boeing told me, that's why they expanded in South Carolina
precisely because there was a there was a desire I
think that was when you were in the legislature to
really lash the relevance of what you're training to what
somebody can do in their economic output. Final question for you, Congresoman,
how long is this going to last? I mean, should
we expect this to be the new normal, just a
(12:14):
rolling shutdown for months on end, or do you think
at some point, after paychecks are missed over and over
there'll be enough pressure on these Democrats to do the
right thing.
Speaker 6 (12:23):
It's really hard to say. I thought after the first
paycheck was missed and after the No Kings protest on
Saturday last weekend, that Democrats would come to their senses,
and they are not. Their heels are dug in. They
are looking on with glee at the suffering of American
citizens and thinking that's somehow, some way that they can
play chess, and it's ridiculous. I wanted to add one
(12:44):
more thing on your last comment about boeing in South
Carolina is that South Carolina is a right to work state.
So if you want to get rid of employees who
are part of unions, labor unions and other states, you
need to look at South Carolina because that doesn't fly here.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
She's already, she's already the pitching South Carolina as a
place of economic opportunity. The congressom Nancy may stay safe
on the trail. I hope you're able to get back
to Washington and work on some of those good.
Speaker 8 (13:10):
Ideas soon and to see you.
Speaker 6 (13:12):
Thank you, Matt.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
And coming up, we see rising tensions between the United
States and Canada. President Trump has issued a threat the
Canadians are running bad TV ads. We can't wait to
talk about it next.
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Speaker 8 (15:40):
I Tariffs inevitably leave to retaliation by foreign countries and
the triggering of fierce trade wards.
Speaker 10 (15:47):
Then the worst happens.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
Market shrink and collapse, businesses and industry shutdown, and millions.
Speaker 7 (15:54):
Of people lose their jobs.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
Throughout the world.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
There's a growing realization that the way to prosperity for
oral nations is rejecting protectionist legislation and promoting fair and
free competition.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
What you just watched is the seventy five million dollar
foreign propaganda video that led President Trump to terminate tariff
negotiations with Canada. In a truth social post last night,
the President accused Canada of interfering with our courts and
trying to get favorable rulings on tariffs. Here's how Secretary
of State Marco Rubio reacted. Take a listen.
Speaker 11 (16:30):
What happened is one of the leaders in Canada was
running ads in the United States entree on tariffs that
took President Reagan's words out of context. Even the Reagan
Foundation criticized them for it.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
So before we even get into the merits of the clip,
I cannot help but think what a terrible return on
investment for spending seventy five million dollars. It almost makes
USAID's thirty two thousand dollars investment in Peruvian transgender comic
books look like a really sound choice by comparison, And
it wasn't even effective propaganda that's the hilarious part. For
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seventy five million dollars, you would hope to bring people
to your viewpoint on something, but here quite the opposite happened.
Since President Trump implemented his tariffs. By all appearances, the
stock market is surging, manufacturing investment is going through the roof,
and Americans are being paid better than ever. Here with this,
now to discuss an economist at the Heritage Foundation, doctor
(17:26):
Peter saint On. Doctor saint O, thanks for joining us.
How are you currently assessing the current rise in US
Canada attentions?
Speaker 12 (17:34):
Yeah, Canada has actually been a lot thornier than I
think people expected so far.
Speaker 7 (17:38):
Mark Carney has not wanted the deal.
Speaker 12 (17:41):
He's wanted to protect Canada's own financial industry and agriculture industries.
You're very powerful in Canada, specifically, the dairy industry is
bizarrely powerful up there.
Speaker 7 (17:51):
He does want to open things up.
Speaker 12 (17:52):
And so you pair that together with the fact that
Canada's new Prime Minister, Mark Carney, he sort of framed
himself as the anti te and that's really that's really
the reason.
Speaker 7 (18:03):
Why he won the election. He was trailing in the polls.
Speaker 12 (18:06):
It looked like a shoe in for the Conservative and
then he framed it as this elbows up.
Speaker 7 (18:11):
Now skeptics say elbows.
Speaker 12 (18:13):
Up, pants down, But at any rate, he's framed himself
as the anti Trump, the Trump fighter, the defender of
Canadian sovereignty.
Speaker 7 (18:20):
So he's kind of backed himself into a corner.
Speaker 12 (18:23):
And then when it really blew up in this past week,
is that the Province of Ontario, which is headed by
another guy, Doug Ford, who's been similarly combative towards Trump.
The Province of Ontario did a massive ad by across
two hundred American cities where they manipulated a video of
Ronald Reagan to create the impression that Ronald Reagan was
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uniformly against tariffs.
Speaker 7 (18:46):
So, first of all, that's false. Reagan put a lot.
Speaker 12 (18:50):
In fact, about twenty percent of our imports under Ronald
Reagan were under protectionist policies who were primarily against the Japanese,
who at the time were sort of conquering the entire country.
So Reagan had a very nuanced opinion about tariffs. He
thought that they were a positive thing if we needed
to protect our own industries or to count our unfair trade.
Speaker 7 (19:12):
But more than that, I think Trump was really sort.
Speaker 12 (19:14):
Of offended because this massive ad by He felt like
it was going around him in the negotiations, and that
the Province of Ontario was essentially trying to tip the balance,
almost like election interference. They were trying to get to
the Supreme Court. A huge part of the ad buy
was in the Washington, DC market, so he I think
(19:35):
for Trump felt like they were sort of negotiating in
bad faith. So he posted on truth Social he said,
deals off, We're not interested.
Speaker 7 (19:41):
We're not going to talk to you guys. We don't
think that you're negotiating in good faith.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
Yeah, we don't even let the Marlborough Man advertise in
the United States. But the notion that we're going to
let a foreign government try to influence policy here that
way is quite something. What do you think the sweet
spot is for this trade negotiation and is there still
path where both sides can win?
Speaker 7 (20:03):
Yeah?
Speaker 12 (20:03):
Well, I think Canada is definitely hurting a lot more
About one in five jobs in Canada is exporting.
Speaker 7 (20:09):
To the United States. They need a deal.
Speaker 12 (20:13):
Jeep just announced they were pulling a thirteen billion dollar
deal out of Canada. That's a lot of money in Canada.
It was also jeep's biggest overseas investment ever. They just
pulled that out of Canada. They brought it into Ohio
and Illinois. So Canada economically is in trouble. The trick
is that carneie like the people who are losing their jobs, right,
(20:33):
if Canadian car factories go or if Canada can't export oil,
the people who are losing their jobs are blue collars.
These are not people who voted liberal anyway, right, these
are conservative voters.
Speaker 7 (20:44):
So politically he might keep fighting. You know, Trump has
been pretty clear since the start.
Speaker 12 (20:49):
That what he wants is for Canada open up its markets.
There are obscene levels of tariffs. I think on milk
it's like one hundred and forty five percent. It's just
comical levels of tariffs that they put again and stu
us And that's bizarre because you know, saying that one
in five Canadian jobs exports to America, for US, it's
like one in forty. In other words, Canada needs us
(21:09):
much more than we need them.
Speaker 7 (21:12):
Yet for you know.
Speaker 12 (21:14):
Decades, American politicians, if let Canada get away with these
obscene tariffs, and then we've never done anything in return.
Speaker 7 (21:20):
So I think what Trump expects is that.
Speaker 12 (21:22):
Canada is going to open up these long protected markets
and there may be a tariff stuck on there. It
may look like Japan or Europe, where you've got a
fifteen percent tariff that's one sided, so our goods go
in free, their goods coming at fifteen percent, and given
the power imbalance, that would make a lot of economic sense.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
Yeah, that might be the place that it ultimately lands,
and if you're right about the points of leverage, will
probably get there sooner rather than later. But if we
are going to isolate and analyze the impact in US markets,
I am curious where you think that will emerge. I
mean in Florida as long as they still keep approving
for the visas for the Canadian snowbirds, like well, you know,
(22:03):
the blue Light special and the three pm dinner will
still be okay. But throughout the country, where do you
see that impact being felt?
Speaker 12 (22:12):
Yeah, I mean short term, the Canadian media, which is
uniformly left wing. It's like the US media, like pre
brush limball, so they've been hyping these stories about Canadians
not buying American goods or not coming to Florida. Fundamentally,
things are much cheaper here. You look at house prices
in Canada, they're absolutely off the charts, like everywhere in
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Canada at San Francisco level, the wages in Canada West
Virginia level. You know, people say one thing, but when
it comes down to the pocketbook, I think you're going
to continue to see Canadian tourists coming in. You're going
to continue to see snowbirds, people buying property overseas. You've
got thousands of Canadians who come to America for medical
care because they're on a nine month wait.
Speaker 7 (22:54):
List for a hip replacement.
Speaker 12 (22:56):
I don't think, you know, media up north is going
to hype all this. Fundamentally, people Canadians buy American goods,
they come to America, they vacation here for other reasons.
It's the weather, it's the prices, it's the home prices. Honestly,
I think that you know, in this interim period, everybody's
sort of waiting and seeing where it's going to come out.
(23:16):
I think most likely we're going to come out at
fifteen percent. It's going to look a lot like the
European and the Japanese deals. And either way, I don't
think long term there's gonna be a big impact to
the relationship or to you know, spending by Canadians in
the US.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
Let's hope it's a temporary spat. Peter saint IgE, thank
you so much for joining us and share your perspective.
Speaker 7 (23:35):
Thanks for having me on and.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
Coming up, we will look into the campaign over Proposition
fifty in California. This would dilute Republican representation in Congress
across the country. Vincrudevendi is running for Congress in California
and he's here to explain.
Speaker 12 (23:49):
Next.
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California Governor Gavin Newsom runs a state that cleans up
best when Chinese communists come to visit most of the time,
Californians have to balance perfect weather and boundless natural resources
with vagrant homeless, crippling taxes, schools that might trans your kids,
and criminals who are rarely incarcerated.
Speaker 4 (26:26):
But we will give him this.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
He's not shy about seizing power, and an election is
happening right now in California to dilute your power no
matter where you live in this country. It's called Proposition
fifty and it's featured messaging from Newsom himself and former
President Barack Obama. If passed, Proposition fifty would jerrymander California,
zapping as many as five Republican seats just off the map.
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Indiana recently had the opportunity to redraw their maps. In response,
they refused. Call it midwestern nice. That's not what they're outstanding.
Senator Jim Banks wanted to see Indiana.
Speaker 10 (27:05):
We're having this conversation Governor Braun, and the state legislature
is looking at redrawing the maps. Indiana is a very
republican state. We have nine congressional seats, seven Republicans and
two Democrats, so you can fairly draw the districts in
Indiana to end up with a nine to zero Republican maps.
I think the evidence in front of us, and my
letter to Secretary of Utnik yesterday justifies the Indiana legislature
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redrawing those maps.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
The current Republican majority in the House is about four seats.
Newsom is set to steal five.
Speaker 4 (27:36):
And if he.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
Can claim that this little move that he orchestrated is
the reason AOC and Jamie Raskin and Hockeim Jeffries have
power to torment President Trump and his administration, Newsom might
just sail to the Democrat nomination for the presidency in
twenty twenty eight. So how is the effort going to
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stop Newsom's steal? Joining us now now California congressional candidate
Vin CRIDIVENTI So, Vin, you and I held a rally
this week in Fresno against Proposition fifty.
Speaker 4 (28:08):
The crowd was great.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
The people were really enthusiastically opposed to that measure. Are
you hearing that folks are getting out and telling their
friends to motivate against this attack on our democracy.
Speaker 13 (28:20):
The biggest issue, Congressman Gates has been the turnout Republican
voter turnout, and your presence definitely helped rally up a
lot of Bagga Republicans, but if you look at the
number of ballots returned, the number is really low, and
then we could do a lot better. And we think
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in the coming days we need to step up as
Republicans and then get the vote out. But definitely picking up,
but not to my satisfaction.
Speaker 4 (28:50):
Though you're running for Congress in the Central Valley.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
Why is Republican representation in the House of Representatives important
to Californians?
Speaker 13 (29:00):
So Central Valley fits half of the nation and it's
mostly rural agriculture, and with this jerry mandering, what's happening
is they're mixing rural with parts of like you know,
cities and examples. Some of the cities are broken up
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into like four or six parts. And this jerry mandering
is so bad that if you look at Congressman Kevin
Kylie's district, it looks like an elephant trunk and all
the weird shapes, like you know, some looks like really
cobwebs and some look like you know, really canals like
you know, going up and down the state. So this
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is really important to have representation for the rural voices,
to make sure that the things that matter them. Really
their voices are heard in Congress.
Speaker 1 (29:56):
California has sent different kinds of Republicans to Congress. Some
of the very best, like Devin Nunaz, came out of
the Central Valley and really stood right with President Trump.
Others we sort of find hiding under their bed. Whenever
there's an important fight. What kind of Republican will you
be in the House of Representatives?
Speaker 13 (30:13):
I am an America First Trump Republican, and one of
the biggest things that's really important to me is to
win this back for us and stand with President Trump
when it matters the most. We do not seem to
side with the best president the US had in this history,
and we need to do what is right for the country.
(30:36):
Imagine like you know, the things, the big, best, greater
things that happened to our country within like first ten months.
And we do not want all of the Russia hoaks
nonsense to start again. And we need to make sure
that we deliver the numbers and stand with President Trump.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
President Trump is working to rescue the American economy amid
this shutdown. You've got extensive business experience. You help small
businesses still to this day. How do you think you
can help President Trump achieve his economic goals.
Speaker 13 (31:13):
Basic and foremost thing is like, you know, balance the budget, right,
And some of the nonsense that we hear is that like, oh,
like we need to stop raising our threshold for the budget.
But it is like having a line of credit. You're
(31:34):
not spending it, but you need it when you need it.
So from all of the rhetoric about the economy tanking,
now look at where our stock market is the highest
it's ever been. We've got every single country at knocking
it our doorstep to make a deal. This is the
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presidency where we have to be one hundred percent behind
eight wars ended so far, and what else can you imagine,
like can you expect from a president? He's delivered what
many presidents couldn't deliver in forty years.
Speaker 4 (32:14):
You mentioned balancing the budget.
Speaker 1 (32:16):
One way the Trump administration reduced unnecessary expenditures was in
the area of foreign aid, and now Democrats are demanding
all of that foreign aid be restored to reopen the
government for essential services here in our country. What do
you think is the right foreign aid budget for the
United States?
Speaker 13 (32:36):
Once we take care of our people internally, there is like,
you know, rest of the things that we can worry
about our veterans are on the streets, Our veterans are homeless,
There is a lot of unemployment. But then in the
name of foreign aid, Democrats sent billions of dollars outside
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brought in through like nonprofit and then it went right
back into their pockets. The right amount of foreign aid
is where we can say this benefits America first, there's.
Speaker 1 (33:15):
Sure and right now it might be even beyond foreign aid.
There might be some domestic reductions in federal spending through
this shutdown. Where would you want to see the Office
of Management and Budget really bear down and squeeze, squeeze
the budget and get the dollars out for the taxpayer.
Speaker 13 (33:32):
We are Republicans, right, and what that means is small
government and efficiencies and better we like you know, there
are ways to improve our efficiencies. We have to look
at ways and means. The way is to balance the
budget is to increase the top line or slash like
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your expenses. So what we've seen so far billions and millions,
in fact, hundreds of billions of dollars in investment that
President got for us. That's going to increase the bottom line.
Doage cuts and like you know, all of the rest
of the things are improving the bottom line, and this
is a golden opportunity for us to gut all of
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the waste that these Democrats want to like slash. They
want to prioritize health care for illegals, then take care
of Americans. And it is a Schumer shutdown.
Speaker 4 (34:30):
It truly is.
Speaker 1 (34:31):
And we hope that what they want to do is
get a majority in the House of Representatives so that
they can always force these shutdowns and hold good policy hostage.
And they're trying to steal seats from good folks in California,
and Vin's out there on the campaign trail trying to
stop them. So am I Vinkrudavinti, candidate for Congress in
the Central District, An America, First Republican.
Speaker 4 (34:51):
Thanks for joining us on the program. We wish you well,
stay safe on the trail.
Speaker 13 (34:55):
Thank you, Congressman Gates.
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In just days, on November fourth, New Jersey will elect
a new governor. Jersey is a blue state, but in
off year elections, Republicans can sometimes catch the opposition off guard,
and these off year governor's races are often a prelude
to the all important mid terms. The key difference in
the Republican approach in twenty twenty four and twenty twenty
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five compared to I would say twenty twenty and twenty
sixteen is ballot harvesting.
Speaker 4 (38:41):
We are making a real effort at this on the.
Speaker 1 (38:43):
Political right, door to door phone calls, sometimes even broader
voter harassment to get folks to submit their ballot. Cliff
Maloney led the successful Pennsylvania ballot chase effort. He's been
deployed to New Jersey and offered this assessment of the race.
Speaker 14 (38:59):
Recently, on our we have launched a New Jersey chase program.
We've got one hundred and five individuals in the state
of New Jersey. I'm here right now out in Morristown,
New Jersey, but we're chasing ballots. I mean poles recently
have it as tightened as forty four, forty four, forty three,
forty three. If we compete by mail and early, and
we do what we did in twenty one in terms
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of turnout, Jack Chitarelli will be the next governor of
New Jersey.
Speaker 1 (39:25):
So where does the race stand now? Just days away
from a reckoning, We'll voter as gift Democrat Congresswoman Mikey
Cheryl a chance. She's the congresswoman who couldn't remember how
much stock trading had made her as a lawmaker.
Speaker 11 (39:38):
So when Newsmax claimed that you made seven million dollars
from stock trades, what are you talking about?
Speaker 15 (39:44):
News Max is first of all, a very questionable organization
that is.
Speaker 4 (39:49):
Paying multiple fines. I'm not sure what they're talking about. Well,
did you make seven million in stock trades at all?
I I haven't.
Speaker 12 (39:59):
I don't believe I did, but I'd have to go
see what that was alluding to a rough moment.
Speaker 1 (40:06):
Well, we see that ascend to leadership? Or will Jack Chitarelli,
a former state lawmaker, find the magic in his second
run for the governorship, joining us now Chairman of the
America First Republicans of New Jersey Mike Chrispy. So, Mike,
is this one going to be a nail bier in
the New Jersey governor's race?
Speaker 15 (40:24):
You know, everybody in twenty twenty four didn't think that
President Trump had a shot in New Jersey, and he
ended up coming within five points. He sent a message
that this state is in play. Jack Chinarelli is running
a great campaign. He's embraced President Trump's message. He's collaborating
and working with him, holding teletown halls, going around with
(40:45):
other Trump surrogates around the state. And right now all
the polling mat has this race within three points. I
think if the pollsters are saying that, that means this
thing is even closer than that. I think Jack Chitarelli,
who came within three points last time, has an amazing
shot to win this thing and take the lead here
in the final eleven days.
Speaker 1 (41:05):
Yeah, Chitdarelli did run four years ago, and came up
just short. And in that race, he refused to endorse
President Trump or seek President Trump's support. Do you think
he would have won four years ago if he'd have
done that.
Speaker 15 (41:18):
I think he would have actually, And you know, when
he was running that race, he had some people around him.
I can tell you from personal experience, some advisors that
were telling him to stay away from President Trump. And
if you look at the numbers, President Trump got two
million votes in the state of New Jersey. Jack Chitarelly
in his last election got one point one million votes.
So the enthusiasm factors on Trump's size. The voters are
(41:39):
here in the state that vote for President Trump. And
if Jack Chittarelli I always said, if he can excite
the Trump base and engage those low propensity to moderate
propensity Trump voters, he will win this election.
Speaker 3 (41:51):
Thank goodness, he's done it. I was there that night
when he got.
Speaker 15 (41:54):
Together with President Trump at Bedminster and buried the hatchet.
I'm glad they're working together, and I'm glad they're a
find of the most important issues.
Speaker 1 (42:01):
Matt And what are those issues in the issue matrix
that seem to be driving voters interest in the race.
Speaker 15 (42:07):
Well, the first and foremost thing is obviously deporting illegal aliens.
We have a massive problem in this country where our
own commerce woman, La Monica mcguiver, this thug is throwing
her body in front of ice officers attempting to do
their job. So people see that, they see the way
in which they want to keep this sanctuary state, and
they say no way. That is the first and foremost
most important thing, law and order. Additionally, we have the
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Democratic candidates who want to defund the police at unleash anarchy.
And additional to that mat we have people who want
to essentially have more expensive energy at the expense of
having a green New deal initiative that makes them feel good.
Speaker 3 (42:47):
So that's what we're faced with right now.
Speaker 15 (42:49):
President Trump and jection really are going to work together
the lower costs and keep our community safer and get
the illegals on delay back out of the country.
Speaker 1 (42:57):
So many folks in New Jersey interact with the New
York media.
Speaker 4 (43:02):
They see it. They many work in New York.
Speaker 1 (43:05):
And with New York City poised to elect Zoron Mamdani
as mayor a socialist, do you think that could have
some more centrist voters in Jersey thinking that maybe a
Republican governor, maybe a red state, just a bridge or
a tunnel away might be a really important thing to
support an embrace.
Speaker 3 (43:23):
Well, it's a great question.
Speaker 15 (43:25):
And Mikey Cheryl, the Democrat nominee, she endorsed so on Mandanbie.
Speaker 3 (43:29):
So how far apart are they on the issues?
Speaker 15 (43:32):
Anytime Mikey has had the chance to cut out as
a moderate, he's come out as a radical. She's the
one who called Charlie Kirk a vile Christian nationalist days
after his assassination.
Speaker 3 (43:43):
That's not moderate policies.
Speaker 15 (43:45):
She's the one defending La Monica mcguiver, the one who
assaulted the Iceholt, So that's not moderate policies. She's the
one who said she would not take off the table
raising the sales tax. That's not moderate policies. So I
think Matt, that people see this. I think they see
what's going on with Zoron. They understand that New York
is really at this point, there's no way you can
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slice it. It's headed for an implosion, and that New
Jersey can be the bastion and it can be the
safeguard for people with common sense who have family members
in the area. Who might want to leave New York
and have a safe haven for them to live just
a normal life.
Speaker 8 (44:19):
Matt.
Speaker 15 (44:19):
That's what this is about, and I think is going
to help Jack here, especially as this second debate with
Zoron just concluded and people see his radical policies on
full display.
Speaker 1 (44:30):
We saw that dynamic when Glenn Youngkin was elected governor
of Virginia.
Speaker 4 (44:34):
As DC got worse and worse.
Speaker 1 (44:36):
Youngkin gave people hope that they could cross the river
and criminals would actually be thrown in jail, there would
be fair tax policies, the schools wouldn't embrace some of
the strangest features of critical race theory and gender identity
are some of those culture war issues playing out in
the New Jersey race. Are those issues that Republicans believe
(44:57):
will actually help motivate their voters.
Speaker 15 (45:00):
Say, one of the biggest issues in this state is
that our teachers Union, okayt the NJEA controls the curriculum,
and they have second graders learning sex said and learning
about just perverse things they won't even say on the air.
That's New Jersey policy. We used to have public schools
that are ranked number two in the country. Now are
ranked number twelve, and the only difference in that time
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are the radical teacher union bosses who have put this
depraved ideology as a mandate into the classrooms in.
Speaker 3 (45:28):
Our public schools.
Speaker 15 (45:29):
It is definitely on the front lines and the issue
of men playing in women's in girls' sports, multiple instances
of that throughout the state. If you look at the
way our education system, which used to be a proud
point in New Jersey, people used to say, we had
great public schools. It was working great, it was a
great system. We are now failing. We're going to be
at the middle of the pack of the whole country.
And what do we do We pay the most in taxes.
(45:50):
How does that make any sense? Check Cindarelli is going
to fix that. Share will only continue with Matt.
Speaker 1 (45:56):
These governors' races that we get in off years, oftentimes
times portend to broader themes that we see developed in
the midterm elections. What are you seeing in this race
in Jersey that you can say, I can tell you
right now this is something that's going to be litigated
in a number of the swing districts around the country.
Speaker 15 (46:14):
Well, this is obviously the lynchpin for the mid terms.
People are talking already about twenty twenty eight. It's unbelievable.
And I think if you look at the way the
Democrats right now are running this race in New Jersey,
and if you look at what's happening in Washington and
around swing states, this issue of the government shutdown, Mikey
Cheryl is running Trump Trump shut down in the government
(46:35):
and Jack Chitarelli is going to be Trump's puppet, and
that message again, they continue to run it, they continue
to say it. It's every other word you hear on
the campaign trail from the Democrats, but it's not resonating
with voters. Matt, they don't even know the government shut down, okay.
So I think that this is a tell, it's a
tael that if they can't run on the shut down narrative,
what else are they going to run on? So I
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think we're going to see more of that. That's why
I think they're going to keep the government shut down,
because they're going to throw it all on the table.
They've got nothing left. They've tried everything to derail Trump.
It hasn't worked. I guess they're going to keep the
shutdown scam, going to keep themselves having a talking point, Matt,
I think.
Speaker 4 (47:11):
No, it's a really good point you're making.
Speaker 1 (47:12):
Actually, you're what you're saying is that Democrat candidates, even
in places where they're trying to demonstrate themselves as moderates,
they basically have to swallow the whole hook.
Speaker 4 (47:21):
On the shutdown.
Speaker 1 (47:22):
You can't be a Democrat seeking Democrat donors, trying to
rally Democrat activists and hold the view that Senator Fetterman
does that the Democrats should get together and open the
government up. But in places like New Jersey where you
have a lot of federal workers, that becomes really noxious
with folks who might otherwise be pretty motivated to vote
for a Democrat candidate. But yeah, actually, as you lay
(47:44):
it out there, they're gonna have to run on this
in the midterms. Do you assess that by the time
we get to the midterms, this shutdown will be really,
really tough as a point of persuasion to get persuadable
voters to vote for a Democrat.
Speaker 15 (48:00):
Well, I saw the video you're probably alluding to, Matt,
with Fetterman and Senator McCormick and their bull saying, Hey,
we're by partisan, we want to reopen the government. I
see President Trump saying, hey, why don't we just do
this continuing resolution. We don't love continuing resolutions, but it'll
allow the government to stay open and us to continue
to negotiate.
Speaker 3 (48:18):
Why don't they do that?
Speaker 15 (48:20):
And they don't do that because they want to dig
their heels in on illegal aliens getting health benefits. Obviously,
when you look around the country and you look at
these swing districts, anytime you explain that for more than
ten minutes past some type of flashy commercial that says
Trump is going to deprive your health care and take
it away, when you explain it for more than ten minutes,
(48:40):
the people overwhelmingly are on the side of reopening the
government and Democrats coming to the table and in good
faith negotiating with President Trump. Matt, That's what people are
most annoyed about independence in New Jersey because they're not
even trying to do it in good faiths with Trump.
Trump said, I'll have a negotiation, Let's do the CR
and do it. They don't even want to do that.
They're radical.
Speaker 1 (49:01):
Now, it's a really good point you make. It could
be an anchor around all of them. My Chrispy, our
America first man in the Garden State. Thanks so much
for joining us and bringing us up to speed.
Speaker 3 (49:09):
Thank you sir.
Speaker 1 (49:10):
The next we'll head to the campaign trail in the
Sunshine State, where there's a brigadier general who thinks he
can unseat a well known incumbent.
Speaker 4 (49:17):
We'll chat about it next.
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Speaker 1 (51:29):
Ever, we head now to my beloved home state of Florida,
the Sunshine State. Congressman Randy Fine represents parts of Florida,
but not really the parts.
Speaker 4 (51:44):
Where he lives.
Speaker 1 (51:46):
And while Congressman Fine is supposed to serve those constituents
who elected him, there's rising allegation that he's detached Congressman
Fine doesn't live in his district, and some are saying
he's more concerned with foreign policy than with the domestic
issues that are impacting the lives of Floridians.
Speaker 4 (52:02):
Enter Charles Gambarrow.
Speaker 1 (52:04):
He's a Republican city councilman who actually lives in the
sixth Congressional district.
Speaker 4 (52:08):
He holds the rank of Brigadier.
Speaker 1 (52:10):
General in the US Army Reserve and has served national
security roles, including advising the director of National counter Terrorism
Center and working on Middle East strategic affairs. General Charlie
Gumborrow joins US now. So, General tell us, why are
you running for Congress?
Speaker 16 (52:25):
Well, Matt, first of all, it's great to be with you,
and thanks for having me on your show. I'm running
for Congress because my parents from an early age taught
me that, you know, public service provides meeting in life,
and I've had a lifetime of service, not just in
the US Army, but you know, from the school board
(52:46):
to city hall to the White House, in the boardroom
to the battlefield. I bring the leadership experience required to
make a difference for the sixth Congressional District and really
excited about the opportunity to serve in Congress and work
with my fellow conservatives to carry ford the America First agenda.
Speaker 1 (53:07):
You're running against an incumbent and a primary, which is
a challenging thing to do.
Speaker 4 (53:11):
What are the concerns you think aren't being addressed in
your community?
Speaker 16 (53:15):
Well, there are a lot of things. I mean, first
and foremost, you know, our member of Congress, mister not
so Fine, lives about two hours south of the district.
He's not one of us. He's more Israel first, and
I think he's America first. And quite frankly, I'm an
America First candidate. I'm an America First Conservative Republican, and
(53:39):
I wore our nation's uniform for over two decades, defending
America's interest first before anybody else. So sure, he's an incumbent. Sure,
you know it will be a good, tough race for us,
But I'll look forward to a challenge. I look forward
to being the underdog, you know, as an army general
who has spent many, many years serving our nation in combat,
(54:03):
but not only in combat, but in Washington at the Pentagon,
serving four different Secretaries of Defense, UH and also at
the White House, serving as President Trump's one of his
Middle East advisors. You know, I can hit the ground
running in a way that I think. Uh, you know,
mister not so fine has has had some challenges because
(54:23):
he doesn't play.
Speaker 4 (54:24):
You made mention of yeah, you made mention of Israel policy.
Speaker 1 (54:27):
I'm just wondering, what do you think is the right
amount of money for US taxpayers to send to Israel?
Speaker 16 (54:32):
So I think, you know, they're the actual defense of
the country from the air. I worked in the Pentagon
in the Office of the Secretary Defense for Middle East Policy,
where we worked on a massive, massive aid package of
thirty billion dollars for the Iron Dome. I think it's
okay to help protect from the skies, but it has
to be measured and you know, making sure that our
(54:53):
interests are always put first and that that package is
you know, was laid out over time. And know we
believe that the defense of Israel is important, but not
before defending America.
Speaker 1 (55:06):
How much how much funding should the US give Israel
to occupy Gaza?
Speaker 16 (55:11):
Well, I think, you know, I think we need to
start with the end state. You know, what's the requirement? Right?
As President Trump used to ask me when I used
to brief him in the Oval office. What where do
we start with? What's what's the the end state, what's
the effect, what's the objective that we that we want
to go to? And by the way, you know, I
totally support President Trump's initiatives, just like he did with
(55:31):
NATO and making you know, our NATO partners pay more
for their defense. You know, I think it can't be
all the United States trying to rebuild Gaza. There. There
need to be our European partners and quite frankly, our
Middle East partners need to need to partake and and
that in that huge venture and undertaking. So the right amount,
the right amount, begins with you know, what's the instate,
(55:53):
what's the requirement? What is it that we're trying to do?
Speaker 4 (55:56):
You're on the city council.
Speaker 1 (55:57):
Now, what do you think would be different about Congress
if every member of Congress had to do a stint
on the city council.
Speaker 16 (56:04):
First, well, all politics is local, and I will tell
you I get stopped in publics or you know here
in in Flagler County, out of Flagler Beach, and they
you know, our residents are very clear and blunt on
what they expect from from their their elected officials and
their public officials be the fact that you know, we
(56:27):
sit and we have public comment and we listened to
weekend and week out the concerns of our residents. It's
it's it's it's humbling because you hear the real concerns
and you try to shape policy as as a council
to try to address that. But you know, like my
father used to say, it's all fun and games till
it affects you. And a lot of the decisions that
(56:48):
we make at the local level, whether it's moving an
air condition to one side of the unit, or our
council just recently passed an e Byke ordinance, it's uh,
those are those are things that hit people at home
in a way that sometimes national policy initiatives don't. And
so it's it's a humbling experience, and you know, I
(57:08):
look forward to taking the lessons learned from from my
service on the Pompcost City Council to Washington.
Speaker 1 (57:15):
City Councilman and Brigadier General Charlie Cainborrow. We wish you
safety on the trail and wish you well and thanks
for coming on the program and thanks for your service
of the country.
Speaker 16 (57:24):
Well, thank you, Matt and I would just ask you
viewers to join our team and go to vote for
Gambaro dot com or our X handle at vote Gambero,
and don't be afraid to click on that donate tab
because we've got a long way to go and we've
we've got a pathway to victory. We're excited about our campaign.
So thanks for your.
Speaker 4 (57:41):
Time, thank you for coming on. We wish you well.
Speaker 16 (57:44):
Thank you, sir.
Speaker 1 (57:45):
That's all the time we have. We'll be back Monday,
nine Eastern six specific. Make sure to sign up for
the OAN Live app if you haven't already.
Speaker 4 (57:51):
Just go to O a n n.
Speaker 1 (57:52):
Dot com, follow me on X at mattin Gates, email
us the Matt Gates Show at O a nn dot
com and stay right here Fine point with Chanel. Ryan
is up next. Let's go get him.
Speaker 11 (58:06):
Yeah,
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