A Day in the Life of OBM Andrea Ventim (From Burnout to Booked Out)

What does it really look like to go from overworked and underfulfilled to confidently running a fully booked OBM business on your own terms?

In this episode of The OBM Show, I’m joined by Andrea Ventim, an Accredited OBM and OBM School alumni who shares her inspiring (and refreshingly honest) journey from burnout to building a thriving business supporting top coaches as their business partner.

Before launching her OBM business, Andrea spent nearly two decades behind the scenes of one of the biggest names in personal development—coordinating events, managing VIP programs, and doing all the things. But despite her stacked resume, imposter syndrome and people-pleasing kept her stuck, until she decided to go all in and make a change.

Here’s what we cover:

• How Andrea went from “Can I really do this?” to confidently owning her OBM title 
  
  
• The mindset shift that helped her set (and stick to) firm boundaries in her business
  
  
• Why niching down and saying “yes” only to full-body yes clients changed everything
   
• How she doubled her income and her time off
  
  
• Her exact 15–20 hour work week schedule 
  
  
• What it really means to build a business aligned with the life you actually want

Whether you’re in the messy middle of a pivot or dreaming about what’s next, I hope this conversation will push you to take the leap—even if you don’t feel 100% ready.

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Episode Transcript

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Sarah Noked (00:01):
Welcome to the OBM Show, the podcast that pulls
back the curtain on what itreally takes to thrive as an
online business manager and helpbusinesses scale without
burning out.
I'm your host, Sarah Noked,agency owner, OBM mentor, and
founder of OBM School.
I've been working in the backend of online businesses since

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OBMs who make businesses runlike clockwork.
Now, I've seen what works, whatdoesn't, and the messy middle
that no one talks about.
Here, we get real about thetools, strategies, and stories
that drive sustainable success,plus the tech mishaps, growing

(00:47):
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If you're ready to stopspinning your wheels, step into
your leadership role, and seewhat actually happens behind the
scenes of thriving businesses,you're in the right place.
Let's get started.
Let's get started.
Hey there, and welcome back toThe OBM Show, the podcast where
we go behind the scenes withreal online business managers

(01:09):
building intentional, impactfulbusinesses on their own terms.
So today, I am talking with thewonderful Andrea Ventim, an
accredited OBM who went fromburnout and uncertainty to
building a business.
booked out business, supportingtop coaches in the personal
development space.
So before stepping into the OBMworld, Andrea spent years

(01:32):
behind the scenes, managingevents, coordinating high touch
programs, and supporting highlevel clients in one of the
biggest personal developmentbrands out there.
We're not going to name anynames.
But after years of pushingherself and always being on, the
burnout became impossible toignore.
She knew it was time to buildsomething on on her own,

(01:54):
something more stable, moresustainable, and aligned with
the life she wanted next.
So in this episode, we'retalking about what it really
takes to go from, I'm not sureI'm qualified, or in Andrea's
case, like, I know I'mqualified, but can I do this, to
confidently running your ownbusiness, from battling imposter
syndrome to discovering herniche and saying yes only to

(02:15):
full-body yes clients.
Andrea shares what this journeyhas looked like in real life,
and now she's doubled her incomewhile working few fewer hours
and feeling in control.
Let's dive in.
Hey, Andrea, welcome.
Hi.
I'm really excited.
In fact, when I wasinterviewing you for OBM School,

(02:35):
I remember thinking to myself,wow, this is going to be an
amazing day in the lifeinterview at some point down the
road.
So I'm really excited to haveyou here.
Oh

Andrea Ventim (02:45):
my

Sarah Noked (02:45):
gosh, I love it.
Because

Andrea Ventim (02:46):
honestly, I think I watched every day in life on
your YouTube channel before Isigned up for a call with you.
So yeah,

Sarah Noked (02:54):
that's why we do these things.
Because I think it's reallyimportant to recognize that
everybody's journey isdifferent.
And everybody...
Yeah, I mean, even before thiscall, we were talking a lot
about like your 17 years ofexperience and like professional
development and how it's madeyou such an invaluable asset to

(03:16):
your team members, but also thatyou're discovering that
entrepreneurship really is thispersonal growth journey that's
pulling you as you, you know,have this solid booked out OBM
business, which just makes myheart sing, that now you have
the time and the space in yourheart.
to start to think about, whatare the other things out there

(03:37):
for me?
Or maybe I can create a leadmagnet that does this, and maybe
I can appeal to this kind ofclient.
So it's, it's, it's such aluxury to have that insight
about yourself.
Oh my gosh.
And I

Andrea Ventim (03:49):
think back to myself a couple of years ago,
and I was just so burnt out anddesperate to figure out what was
next.
I felt so stuck for so long.
And now that so much of thatweight has lifted, I do have
this freedom for creativity tothink about what is next.
Like it just, my perspectivehas totally changed.
Yeah.

Sarah Noked (04:10):
Yeah.
It's amazing to me because, youknow, it's really easy for me
to like sniff out a good OBM.
And obviously, like, I thinkit's important to put a caveat
out there that you came into theOBM role with a ton of OBM
experience.
So can we just speak to thatfor a second?
Because I really know inmyself, I saw it in you, I see

(04:31):
in our top OBMs, and I will callyou one of our top OBMs, this
sort of like, almost like adenial of your skill set.
Yeah.
That OBM is a good role, butyou're still holding back.
So I'd love to speak to thatbecause I know that that will
resonate with listeners orpeople who are watching this on
YouTube thinking, well, can Ireally do this?

(04:53):
Are my transferable skillsreally where they need to be?
So can you speak a little bitto what that felt like for you?

Andrea Ventim (05:00):
Totally.
So I've always kind of sawmyself as like the jack of all
trades.
Like I've just always beenreally good at a little bit of
everything.
Like you want me to DJ yourevent?
Sure.
I'm going to set up yourspeakers.
Sure.
I'll do it.
Let me do your accounting.
Sure.
Marketing, you know, literallyI previously did almost
everything, which somebody whowas a mentor of mine in the past

(05:23):
where I said like, you have agreat CEO, like experience, like
your background is going tokill it one day as a CEO.
But I was so stuck for a reallylong time and I had such
imposter syndrome and I was justafraid of stepping out of my
comfort zone, even though I knowlike growth was only beyond
your comfort zone.

(05:43):
I was still scared.
Can I say shitless?
Like

Sarah Noked (05:47):
I

Andrea Ventim (05:47):
was, and it took, I don't know exactly what it
was.
I think it was like feelingthis intuition in me said like,
there's something more for meout there.
And once I started pokingaround the internet and I came
across you, I just said like,yeah, this is it.
Like, this is my next step.
It may not be my forever, but,I trust Sarah.

(06:10):
I think this is for me.
Like this has got to be thenext thing because I have all
the skills she's talking about.
I'm just not labeling myselfthis.

Sarah Noked (06:18):
Yeah.

Andrea Ventim (06:18):
And I haven't figured out how to market
myself.
But if she can hold my hand andhelp me do this, I'm in.

Sarah Noked (06:24):
Yeah.
And I was like, you're in.
You're in.
You're not going anywhere.
Although truthfully, like itreally was, this girl's got to
get in here.
You got to get in.
And honestly, like I get ittoo.
It's very nerve wracking whenyou're making the decision to go
all in on yourself and startthis business.
Totally.
And one of the things I lovethat you mentioned there was

(06:45):
that this is not necessarily thefinal stop.
And I realized this in my ownOBM business.
There are so many iterations.
Andrea, you could very wellscale a team, keep the OBM
business running.
You could very well scale anagency.
You could start creatingproducts under the OBM umbrella.
Because I think when you'refirst starting, you're so

(07:07):
freaked out about getting thosefirst few clients that you can't
see beyond that.
And then once you're fullybooked out, which, okay, tell
me, how long did it take you toget fully booked out?
No time at

Andrea Ventim (07:20):
all, honestly.
And that was my biggest fear.
My biggest fear was...
No, it's not your biggest fear.
You're so well connected.
I know.
But you saw that there.
I just was really afraid, Ithink, of rejection, to be
honest.
I was afraid of, you know, Ithink because I worked for this

(07:40):
very popular speaker and coachthat a lot of people had this
idea that my life must have beenperfect and that that
environment was perfect.
And for a long time, I thoughtit was.
And it maybe was perfect for mefor a period of my life.
But as I grew into a mom and Isaw my life changing, what I

(08:00):
wanted and needed changed alongwith it.
And there became a time where Ididn't love it anymore.
And I just didn't feel thisfulfilled, you know, desire to
get up and get on my computerevery day.
I was just so in a routine.
I was just really, really stuckand just generally unhappy.
Yeah.
And I hated that.

(08:22):
I didn't want to be like that.
I didn't want to be thatexample for my kids.
And so that's really when Iknew like I have to change
something, but because I was ina That's crazy.
Yeah.
Yeah.

(08:49):
And so for me, I don't know ifyou had encouraged me or how
this worked, but basically Iremember I told myself, I'm
going to tell a few people.
So I told like a very smallhandful of people that I trusted
that I knew loved me and weregoing to support me no matter

(09:12):
what.
And one of them in particularwas, I'm just so grateful for
him.
He was over the moon stoked forme.
Like just a really good friendhappened to me in town.
We met up and I told him what Iwas doing.
Literally that night, he calledme and said, Hey, I have a
client for you.
I'm not kidding.
I

Sarah Noked (09:33):
believe it.
I believe it.
That's what I tell people.
So it's through someone, youknow, that's how you get your
first client.
And if you don't talk about it,don't put it out into the
universe.
Hey, university ain't going towork in your favor.
So I love this story.
Tell me more.
So he

Andrea Ventim (09:49):
called me and he said, I was in a meditation with
my friend today and I came outof meditation and I realized I
needed to connect you with herbecause she is looking for
somebody on her team who isexactly like you.
And you just told me thatyou're looking to take your
skills and make something elsehappen.

(10:09):
He's like, I think you guysneed to meet.
You live 10 miles from eachother, which is Yeah.
Yeah.
I love that.
I think that's incredible.

Sarah Noked (10:34):
And it really speaks to, I think just the
universe and manifestation.
I mean, that's as woo as I get,but I'm like really and truly,
you need to say these things outloud.
You have to, this is such greatadvice, Andrea, because you
have to find people that youtrust to confide in because it's
part of getting out of thebrunt that you're in, getting

(10:56):
out of a mindset that of anemployee, you know, which is
crazy to me because when we met,you had been working for this
professional developmentbusiness as an employee, but
essentially working as an OBMtype role because obviously you
were doing a lot of differentthings.
They were shifting you around alot.
And it was just so interestingbecause it's not about the skill

(11:19):
set.
You know you can do the job,but it's like, can you find
clients?
Can you make this work foryourself?
So if there was something youcould say to that younger Andrea
what would that have been?
Oh gosh.
I had it on the tip of mytongue.
Hold

Andrea Ventim (11:34):
on.
I would say, honestly, go forit sooner.
Like, and just tell, trustthat, Thank you so much.
Send me your website link.

(12:04):
Like I have someone, I havetons of people that need people
like you.
Wow.
It has just been these casualconversations.
I never had to do hardcoremarketing.
I don't think I've sent asingle email actually out
marketing myself.
It's been all word of mouth.
Every single client I've hadhas been referred to me and all
of my clients have referred meto other people for projects or

Sarah Noked (12:25):
whatnot.
So you have three solidretainer clients and then you do
projects.
When you have time as needed,which is like a chef's kiss
type.

Andrea Ventim (12:37):
It has been the best.
And I've been able to say no toclients that I knew were not a
good fit for me.
And I've been pretty picky.
And that was something that Iremember some other cohort
members.
We were chatting about stuff inthe beginning.
And in the beginning, there's alot of fear.
And there's this feeling ofI'll take anyone I can get.
Yeah.
I'll just take what I can get.
For me, I always

Sarah Noked (13:00):
knew.
You're like, no, no, no.
I'm not going to do that.
No,

Andrea Ventim (13:04):
I said, I'm doing this on my turn.
And I remember writing out, Iam big into the woo-woo, but I
wrote out like exactly what do Iwant my days to look like?
What kind of clients do I wantto work with?
And I wrote a list of like 20different clients in particular,
one of who I might be signingon in the future, which is kind
of crazy, but the types ofpeople and the qualities that

(13:24):
they have.
As soon as I did that, I alsorecorded it as an affirmation.
I would listen to it every day.
These people just startedcoming to me like I didn't have
to do much I just had to put theenergy out into the universe
and it just happened

Sarah Noked (13:41):
oh wow that's amazing I love that recording of
the affirmation totally Becauseit's so, it's really important
to stay on track, right?
Like, so I, you know, I mean, Ilove this recording the
affirmation, but like, evenhaving the why, like, I always
have my why in front of me, youknow, your why evolves, it
changes.
But, you know, any decisionthat I make, or when I'm like,

(14:03):
really, you know, thinking islike, should it be like this?
Or should it be like that?
I'm like, I go back to my why?
I'm like, does this serve mywhy?
If it doesn't, then it's a nofor me.
It's no for me.

Andrea Ventim (14:14):
Yeah.
And I think having that keepsyou true to who you are and you
stay in integrity with yourvalues and what's important to
you.
And there's not enough peopleout there who unfortunately do
that.
A lot of people are chasing apaycheck.
And while paycheck's important,you got to feed your family and
you need to be able to supportyourself.
I think there's enough peopleout there, especially OBM

(14:36):
clients, where you can wait forthe right one.
Because for me, I onlyneeded...
two yeses before this became myfull-time job and I could leave
my old position.
And so I was like, there's two,I can find two people.
There's how many people on thisplanet I can find two.
And

Sarah Noked (14:54):
look at them.
One is 10 miles from you.

Andrea Ventim (14:56):
Absolutely insane.
Yeah.
And it's been such a wild ride,but I'm so grateful and great.

Sarah Noked (15:06):
Yeah.
So we were, we were, you weregetting into with the
affirmation sort of mapping outwhat an ideal day looks like.
And I see you all the time onInstagram baking and I'm like, I
need to move into Andrea'shouse.
So tell me what it really like,what does a day look like?
Cause obviously, you know, samewith me, the kids take the

(15:28):
priority.
It's the summertime now.
So maybe as a summertimeedition, cause this will
probably go live in August.
Tell me a little bit about whatAndrea's summertime OBM is.
work looks like.
It's probably not so differentfrom, from the regular, right?
Cause it's crazy

Andrea Ventim (15:45):
different to be honest.
So for us, I, the best thing, Idon't wake up to an alarm clock
anymore.
My kids and my alarm clock.
So that's fine with me, butwe're up around six from six to
like seven 30 is really familytime.
So it's what I'm makingbreakfast, packing lunch boxes
for camp or whatever.
And usually by seven 30, eight,eight during the summer were

(16:10):
out the door.
So it depends if my husband orI are taking the kids to
preschool or camp or whateverthat is.
So four days a week, that'swhat it is.
And then from eight to nine.
This is the thing that I reallybuilt in.
It was me time, having time toexercise or if I'm making
sourdough or whatever it is,because previously I was the

(16:30):
only person on my team in Hawaiiand everybody else was in
California.
So I'd wake up three hoursbehind.
So seven o'clock, my time was10 a.m.
And they were rip more andready to go.
And I'd have a stream of emailsand text messages.
And for me, it was so muchanxiety, not anyone's fault.
It was just a schedule.

(16:52):
And I always put myself last.
And you know how that is as amom, you're not working out at
830 at night.
You're just like,

Sarah Noked (17:00):
you're done

Andrea Ventim (17:01):
out.
No way.
Pour me a glass of wine.
I cannot.
So that was a non-negotiablewhen I started my business of
Like I need to have time formyself in the morning.
So I have a rule, Mondays, nomeetings before 10 a.m.
But generally, everyone's offthe door by 7.30, 8.
I work out or do whatever Ineed to do from 8 to 9.

(17:22):
And then I'll start work around9.30 or 10, take a lunch break
somewhere during the day.
And then usually by 2.30 or 3,I'm done for the day.
Take off the kids, might go tothe beach or whatever sports
they have that day or dinnerwith friends.
And yeah, I don't work at nightanymore.
It's a very rare occasion.

Sarah Noked (17:43):
Okay.
Can we just like juxtapose thisto like before?
Cause I was like,

Andrea Ventim (17:49):
I actually want to talk about it because I think
for me, like, again, when I waswatching these, what do you
call this?
OBM day in the life.
Yeah.
I wanted to know.
And for me at the time I wasworking full time.
my son was like 18 months old.
I was so breastfeeding.
And I remember I was sometimesworking at night.

(18:12):
Like if my son, if I didn'thave childcare during the day,
I'd have to catch up on mynormal nine to five in the
evening.
And then I would have projectsor stuff to do for OBM school
and And then because of the timedifference, I think when I
would get up for calls, it'd belike four o'clock in the
morning.

Sarah Noked (18:29):
Wow.
Listeners, this is dedicationright here.
Andrea's was a dedicated OBM.
She was like, I'm going to dothis.
I'm going to make it work.

Andrea Ventim (18:37):
Totally.
But for me, I really toldmyself, you just put your head
down for six months, pouryourself some extra coffee.
Yeah.
It will pay off.

Sarah Noked (18:45):
It will pay off.
And look at you.
Look at you now.

Andrea Ventim (18:48):
Absolutely.
Absolutely.

Sarah Noked (18:49):
Did you ever have imagined that it would be like
this?
I mean, because we talked aboutit and I was like, it's going
to be like this.
But I was like, I feel likeonly 75% of Andrea believes me.
Despite the

Andrea Ventim (19:01):
experience.
I wanted to believe you so bad.
And I remember there arecertain hot seat calls where I
would like say, okay, give it tome, Sarah.
Like, I needed a pep talk and Ihad to borrow your faith in me
at moments in order to believein myself.
That's the truth.

Sarah Noked (19:19):
I could be there to give that to you.
I was like, this girl's goingto make it.
She's going to be like on fire.

Andrea Ventim (19:25):
Yeah, I was determined.
I really told myself when I wasgoing through that class, like
all the ladies were so

Sarah Noked (19:31):
amazing.
It is amazing.
That is what I

Andrea Ventim (19:34):
really said.
Like, I'm going to be the oneto do it.
Like I'm going full time andI'm doing this at the speed of
light.

Sarah Noked (19:40):
Yeah,

Andrea Ventim (19:41):
I have to and I want

Sarah Noked (19:42):
my why is strong AF you had your kid.
I mean, I

Andrea Ventim (19:46):
had two little kids and like I'm with my
daughter, kindergarten, firstgrade.
I didn't get to volunteer likea single time in her classroom
and that broke my heart.
And last year I volunteered somuch.

Sarah Noked (19:58):
That's a really good KPI.
Yeah.
No BM.
Am I volunteering?
Because I know that too.
I just actually just sent mykids camp message and I was
like, can you add me to thenext?
Like I missed this last trip.
Like, you know, I'm alwaysaround to come on like trips.
Yeah.
Cause I get to also see what'shappening here.
I'm like, I've never

Andrea Ventim (20:16):
been there before.
I want to come too.
Yeah.
And so that was the stuff thatlike, yeah, maybe it doesn't
show up on the accolades and allthat, but that was so much more
important to me.
And it's been life changing.
Like just the quality of lifefor me has really drastically
changed.

Sarah Noked (20:33):
Wow.
That's, Intense.
That's like, wow, that just ittakes me back because it's just
it's so I felt like that in myown OBM business.
So I'm really glad that I knowthat other people feel like
this.
And I think it's just soimportant to know that you can
do it.
Like, it's so crazy.
Like, you know, even when Icame into this, like, despite

(20:54):
having sold even my landscapingcompany, that would have been
enough or some of the thingsthat I had achieved in my life,
but I still felt like, can I dothis?
So I think it's so importantthat someone's listening right
now and thinking to herself,well, yeah, maybe I do have what
it takes.
Just go with it.
Like the only way you're goingto fail is if you don't try.
Right.
And, and, and that'sabsolutely, that's the truth.

Andrea Ventim (21:15):
Don't sell yourself short.
Don't sell yourself short.
There are so many people whoneed OBN to need these skills.
And I mean, I meet people everyday who need me and I just
like, Oh, books are full, butyeah.
Refer it to the community.
Yeah.
Put it in the

Sarah Noked (21:33):
group.

Andrea Ventim (21:33):
Yeah.
I think all the time, like,yeah, I could take on, I could
work 40 hours a week again if Iwanted to.
If

Sarah Noked (21:38):
you wanted to, but you're not working 40 hours a
week.
How many hours are you working?
15 to 20.
15 to 20 hours a week.
And how many hours were youworking in your corporate job
that was very OBMS, but still anemployment role and probably
making more or less, Are youmaking more now

Andrea Ventim (21:58):
than

Sarah Noked (21:58):
you were making?

Andrea Ventim (21:59):
More.
Oh yeah.
I was making half and I wasworking twice as much.

Sarah Noked (22:03):
So you doubled your revenue or your

Andrea Ventim (22:05):
income?
And I essentially doubled mytime off.

Sarah Noked (22:08):
Yeah.
Doubled your time off.

Andrea Ventim (22:10):
Ooh,

Sarah Noked (22:11):
man.

Andrea Ventim (22:11):
Isn't that crazy?

Sarah Noked (22:12):
Man, it's not crazy.
It is beautiful and it is sopossible.
And I think that I just soappreciate you sharing this
because I, you know, I've been,I've been on your back.
I was like, when are we goingto do a day in life?
Because it's, It's just soamazing.
What has it been, two years?
A

Andrea Ventim (22:32):
year and a

Sarah Noked (22:32):
half.
A year and a half.
Has it already been two years?
It feels like yesterday when Ispoke with you.
It really does feel likeyesterday.
But when I look at the kids,I'm like, oh, they're much
older.
Everybody's getting older.

Andrea Ventim (22:43):
they are but honestly like the support from
the community and the othermentors and you like I remember
being scared which seems crazybut scared to put myself out
there on calls right becauseI've never been someone to
really raise my hand a lot but Ialso knew like I paid for this
right is what it's for right I'mgonna raise my hand let me make
the let me make the most ofthis Absolutely.

(23:05):
And I think the first couplecalls, I didn't do that.
And once I finally took myselfseriously, I got so much more
out of it.
And I'm really glad I did.
So if you're doing this, takeit seriously from the very first
day, ask all the questions,raise your hand, put yourself

Sarah Noked (23:20):
on the hot seat.
For a very long time, even withmy own way that I behave, I
would spend two hours Googlingsomething, even if I knew I
could ask somebody and have ananswer in five minutes.
It's like, we don't want todisturb people.

(23:40):
We don't want to be the one tolike, you know, but you have to
when you are deciding that thisis your next step.
you have to start prioritizingwhat you need and your family.
And I think that was just sucha beautiful catalyst and
transition for making the changeand moving into the OBM space.
And now, you know, so what doesit look like to serve the

(24:04):
client?
So you have like this wonderfulwork-life balance, but in the
hours that you are doing thework during the week, is it
Like, projects?
Is it meetings?
Like, is it metrics?
Because people need to know.
I know it's different everyday, and that's part of the
excitement, right?

Unknown (24:20):
Yeah.

Andrea Ventim (24:20):
Yeah, it's a good mix of everything.
I have some standing meetingswith clients, which I love in
teams.
And I'm so, so blessed with thebest people to work with.

Sarah Noked (24:32):
Yeah.

Andrea Ventim (24:33):
And these are your clients

Sarah Noked (24:34):
teams.

Andrea Ventim (24:35):
Absolutely.
Yeah.
Clients teams, not my team.
For me, it's still just me.
And that's totally the nextiteration.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But for me, I was kind of new.
Like, I don't want to build onthe big team right now.
And yeah, I am working on a lotof projects and I'm following
up with deadlines, working inKajabi.
I've been doing a lot ofwebsite builds, which was

(24:56):
something I...
didn't think I would do, but Ithink I built six websites in
the last few months.

Sarah Noked (25:01):
Wow.
And where did that, that justcame from, you know, pulling
that rabbit up your sleeve?

Andrea Ventim (25:06):
When I tell you I've done a little bit of
everything, like this is one ofthose things that I realized so
many people need great optimizedwebsites.
And I'm like, yeah, I could dothat.
Whether it's building a landingpage in Kajabi or something in
WordPress, I've been doing quitea bit of it, which really
shocked me.
But a lot of managing teams andmanaging projects and launches,

(25:26):
like I feel like all of my they

Sarah Noked (25:29):
all launch because they have like online products
and memberships and they're allonline entrepreneurs so tell me
about this event because westarted briefly talking and I
would love for you to share thislike share a little bit without
you know who the client is orwhatever but that there's an
event happening because I alwayssay to our community I'm like
being an OPM can be reallyexciting if you want it to be

(25:50):
like I personally I'm very Idon't know if introvert or
extrovert I don't know how Ifeel about those words anymore
but like I do prefer being athome and it does take a lot out
of me to go and to go to a liveevent like I have been to live
events with clients before manyyears ago but it takes a lot out
of me but there is that typethat really does enjoy these

(26:12):
kinds of things and facilitatingthis and you have a lot of
events experience from yourcorporate job working with that
big you know personal coachingdevelopment coach space that you
worked in for all of thoseyears but just to like tease
those people who are like wowcan I really like How exciting
is this?
It is.
So

Andrea Ventim (26:31):
this came out of kind of nowhere.
So I have a client, she's inthe health and wellness space,
and she had a 12 month programon health.
And we're having a graduation,a live graduation here in
Hawaii.
And we ended up adding on abonus program.
module for this program aboutmindset because that's really

(26:54):
the space that i come from andshe asked me one day she's like
can you please like afterworking with me she knew my
background but throughout somany of our conversations as
we're talking strategy i'm alsoslightly coaching her and the
team as we've been doing annualmeetings and all the stuff and
she's like can you please bringin some of this mindset piece
because the people in thiscourse really really really need

(27:16):
it i was like sure so creatingthis bonus module i'm Now we're
doing a live graduation in a fewweeks and she's going to have
me co-facilitate a little bit ofthe weekend, which is totally
not what I expected my OBMcareer to take this like left
turn.
But yeah, I'm super happy to doit.
It's an enhancement.

(27:38):
Yeah.
It's like something.
And it's so natural to me.
And I was, I forget because Iwas, I really grew up in that
space of personal developmentand mindset.
I forget that not everybodyelse does.

Unknown (27:48):
Yeah.

Andrea Ventim (27:50):
Um, And as I talk to people, I'm like, gosh, you
just need to believe in yourselfmore.
You have it.
Like even it's the coachingthat you provided to me that I
can offer to other people.
And I do have a lot of thatbackground.
And I'm super excited to bepartnering with her and seeing
where this leads.

Sarah Noked (28:08):
Yeah, I think that's incredible.
And I think it really, youknow, I'll say it again.
I'll say it a million times.
But, you know, every OBM is sodifferent.
We come with our unique,special skill sets that make us
one of a kind.
And it's so interesting to seehow you've evolved so quickly.
You know, you quickly evolve.
became booked out.

(28:28):
And now you have this space andopportunity.
Think in your personal growthjourney as an entrepreneur, as
an OBM, what's next?
Where can I go with this?
And I think that that is abeautiful, beautiful thing.

Andrea Ventim (28:44):
And to be honest, for me, now that I don't have
this weight of the stress, firstof all, I'm not working a
full-time job and I have morespace in my life for my
creativity.
I have more of these ideasabout what I could do next and
what does my potential looklike?
Whereas before, I just feellike I didn't have the brain
space to even go there.

Sarah Noked (29:03):
I feel you.
I feel you on that.
I think that it's such aprivilege.
And you have given yourselfthat privilege by putting in the
hard work and the dedication.
You know, it's so interesting,too.
And I think it's important tohighlight the fact that it
wasn't exactly the opportunetime to start a business for
you.
Your kids were really little.

(29:23):
You were still breastfeeding.
Yeah.

Andrea Ventim (29:49):
I really gave myself a six month deadline.
I'm going to go through thiscourse.
I'm going to get certified andI'm going to make it happen.
And there was no other optionfor me because I was just that
dedicated to a big change in mylife.

Sarah Noked (30:03):
Oh, I love that.
And a big change you made.

Andrea Ventim (30:06):
Absolutely.
Yeah.

Unknown (30:10):
Ah,

Sarah Noked (30:10):
Fantastic.
So is there anything else thatyou want to say to our listeners
or viewers about your journeythat maybe we've missed?
Because I know that you and Icould go on and

Andrea Ventim (30:23):
on.
set really firm boundaries.
I have found this to be soimportant.
And like my client, I haveclients here in Hawaii.
I have some on the East coastand they all know my work hours.
They know when to contact meand when to expect a response.

(30:45):
And I am so firm about thatbecause I protect my time and my
family's time.
Like It is gold because it is,it's priceless.
And I see a lot of, even otherteam members that I work with,
like they just don't act thatway.
They'll answer text messages inthe middle of the night.

(31:05):
I'm like, why?
I'm constantly telling people,coaching them through it.
I'm like, please don't do thatbecause you deserve better than
that.
You deserve that boundary.
So, As you're setting up yourbusiness, it's okay to have
boundaries and set that up fromthe beginning because it will
create this quality of life foryou that you deserve.

Sarah Noked (31:26):
Yeah.
I feel like we're going to needto talk about that in the
alumni community and dosomething around mindset.
I have like a list here.
Mindset, affirmation, settingboundaries.
I love it.
Because you're, I mean, it's sotrue.
And despite that, The trainingand I think how important it is
to set boundaries andexpectations like from the

(31:48):
dating project and onwards inany capacity.
But we unfortunately, I think alot of us do default to people
pleaser mode and trying to makeeverybody happy and not make
ourselves happy.
If you're going to start abusiness, it needs to really
fulfill you in that way,especially as an OBM.

Andrea Ventim (32:06):
Absolutely.
And you're worth it.
Like we all are.
And I think especially aswomen, we put ourselves last.
And I just want to change that.
I'm like, I had to start withme first.
And I'm like slowly encouragingfriends and coaching my clients
through the same thing.
Like, no, but you put yourselffirst.
You are first on this list andeverything else will happen.

(32:26):
I

Sarah Noked (32:27):
love that.

Andrea Ventim (32:28):
Yeah.

Sarah Noked (32:28):
Incredible.
Yeah.
It's so true.
One of the most, I think, yes,does, of course, on one hand,
but we see it.
You and I see it all the time.
It's easy to say it.
It's another thing to believeit and to do it and to own it
and to hold yourself back.
So when OBMs are upset or feelmiffed that their clients are
messaging them at 9 o'clock atnight, it's your client's right

(32:52):
to message you whenever theywant to message you.
It's your choice to respond andto set that pace.
Period.
A

Andrea Ventim (32:58):
hundred percent.
It is your choice how yourespond to a certain event that
always will dictate the outcome.

Sarah Noked (33:05):
Yeah.

Andrea Ventim (33:06):
Every single time.
It's always a choice.
You have a choice ineverything.
And you have to take ownershipabout what kind of life you want
to live, what kind of companyyou want to have, what kind of
clients you want to work with.
It's all choice.

Sarah Noked (33:19):
Yeah.
And what kind of parent youwant to be, what kind of human
you want to be in this space.

Andrea Ventim (33:23):
Totally.
You can do it with integrity.
I promise you, you can.

Sarah Noked (33:27):
Yeah.
Andrea, thank you so much forthis interview.
For those who are wanting towork with an OBM, how can they
get in touch with you?

Andrea Ventim (33:37):
Awesome.
The best place is go to mywebsite, which is
andreaventeam.com.
So A-N-D-R-E-A.

Sarah Noked (33:43):
Yeah, we'll put that in the show notes.

Andrea Ventim (33:45):
Perfect.
Or you can reach out to me onInstagram, the same at
andreaventeam.
Yeah, love to connect.
Thank you so much for beinghere, Andrea.
Thank you so much for your timefor having me.

Sarah Noked (33:57):
Well, what I love most about Andrea's story is how
honest and relatable it is.
She didn't come in with aperfect plan or instant
confidence.
She came in with experience,integrity and a willingness to
figure it out.
And that willingness is whatgot her the yeses, the
referrals, the booked out, theclients and the business that
you are building.

(34:17):
It's such a great reminder,Andrea's journey, that you don't
need to know everything to getstarted.
You have the skill sets.
You just need to take the rightstep and surround yourself with
an incredible community likeOBM School who believe in your
vision even when you are stilllearning perhaps to believe in
yourself, right?

(34:38):
Honestly.
So if Andrea's story inspiredyou, share this episode with a
fellow OBM or online service prowho needs to hear it.
And don't forget to tag us atthe OBM School and let us know
your favorite takeaway.
We'd love to hear whatresonates most.
Until next time, next time keepleading keep growing and keep
saying yes to the businessthat's meant for you