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May 23, 2025 44 mins

What if your personal data wasn’t  being harvested — but instead valued, tokenized, and returned to you?

That’s the radical shift proposed by Vana, a platform building decentralized data marketplaces that aim to give users economic power over their own data.

In this episode of "The People's AI," we speak with Art Abal, Vana’s co-founder, to unpack how today’s data economy works behind the scenes — and why it’s fundamentally broken. In this episode, we explore how data is currently bought and sold by tech giants, what it would take to redesign that infrastructure around user ownership, and how Vana’s VRC-20 token could be the first step in treating data as a liquid, tradable asset.

We go deep on:

  • Why centralized data brokers still dominate AI training pipelines
  • How “data market makers” could unlock liquidity in user-owned datasets
  • The mechanics and philosophy behind the VRC-20 token
  • Real-world case studies, like data DAOs for Reddit and electric vehicle telemetry
  • The path toward Universal Data Income (UDI) — and how it might reshape AI’s future

Whether you’re a builder, investor, or simply data-curious, this episode offers a look into a future where AI and Web3 integration doesn’t just protect your privacy — it pays you back.

Please subscribe, share, and join the conversation.

About Vana:

Vana's mission is to enable user-owned AI through user-owned data. Vana recently announced a collaboration with Flower Labs to build the world’s first user-owned foundation model. 

About Vana's collaboration with Flower:

https://www.vana.org/posts/vana-flower-labs-partnership

More on Vana:

https://linktr.ee/vanahq

Vana on Twitter/X:

https://x.com/vana


Subscribe to The People's AI on YouTube:

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCnLiYlJulQIcmvCjnVRYotw

Jeff Wilser on Twitter/X:

https://x.com/jeffwilser

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