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Patty (00:08):
Welcome to the PG spot,
where our goal is to take the X
out of sex by breaking down thebarriers that prevent open
communication about sexualhealth.
I'm Dr.
Patty Jalomo, a dual certifiednurse practitioner, pelvic floor
therapist, and certified sexualcounselor.
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empower you to embrace yoursexual wellbeing.
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Hey everyone.
Welcome to the show since thisis our first episode and the
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title of the podcast isreferring to the G-spot.
Today I want to take a look at avariety of erogenous zones for
both vulva owners and penisowners.
Also, I want to take this timeto say that although it's always
my intention to be inclusive ofall genders and identities.
Much of the research refers tocis male and cis female, meaning
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those who are assigned eithermale or female at birth.
I absolutely respect everyone'sautonomy and right to identify
in whatever way feels authentic.
But I do wanna clarify that intoday's episode, I.
Those terms may be frequentlyused.
So a common complaint that Ihear in clinic is that patients
find it difficult to reachorgasm, and especially for
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women.
Looking at a 2018 study from theArchives of Sexual Behavior, it
looked at over 52,000 US adultsand found that 95% of
heterosexual men reportedusually or always reaching
orgasm during sex compared to65% of heterosexual women.
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So why is that?
Although there may be manyreasons, some of the most
significant ones aren't relatedto the genitals at all.
So if I were to ask what is thelargest sex organ in the human
body, what do you think yourresponse would be?
Well, if you said the brain,you'd be correct.
The brain is in fact the largestsex organ in the body, and if
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the brain isn't with it, thenthe body has a hard time
following.
So there's three significantblockers to orgasms, so we'll
call those o blockers.
The first one is shame.
And shame can be very deeprooted from religious or
cultural beliefs.
And for many people it can bevery difficult to overcome.
It may be that we just didn'tgrow up in a family that openly
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discussed sex or sexuality ormaybe didn't even openly show
affection.
And this can plant the seed forshame and it can greatly affect
one's ability to see sex as ameans of pleasure.
The second O blocker is trauma.
And trauma doesn't have to meanbig T trauma such as physical or
sexual abuse or war or livingthrough a natural disaster.
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It could be what we call littleT trauma, which is something
smaller, but still significantlike.
Maybe being bullied in childhoodor being told that we are fat or
that we stink.
You know, any of those thingscan induce trauma that can be
carried through adulthood andnegatively affect our
relationships and our ability tofeel confident in our bodies or
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to enjoy intimacy at all.
Um, the third o blocker.
Is stress.
Now, stress is something that weall deal with, but when it comes
to intimacy, we really have tojust get out of our heads.
No one can focus on pleasure orsensation when they're thinking
about what to make for dinner orwho's going to get the kids to
practice.
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These are the main things thatget in the way of enjoying
intimacy or reaching orgasm,especially in women.
Another cause of inability toorgasm can be related to
anatomy.
Now that's not to say thatsomething is clinically wrong
with someone's anatomy, althoughthat could be the case, but more
importantly, it's related to thefact that the female anatomy is
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just more complex than our malecounterparts, and we experience
pleasurable sensations indifferent ways.
So it's important to understand.
What is pleasurable to eachpartner, and that sort of leads
into the next O blocker, whichis a lack of education around
sex.
And I know you may be thinkingthat you're a grown adult,
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you've had lots of sex, sotherefore you surely aren't
lacking in education.
But the problem often lies.
And where we've gotten oureducation around sex and
intimacy.
So I don't know about any ofyou, but when I was in school,
there was definitely a lack ofadequate sex education in
schools.
I think our sex education wasbasically the boys and girls
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were separated and the.
Girls were told about theirperiods, and I don't really even
know what the boys' conversationwas about.
But then later in, maybe middleschool, at high school age, it
was really more about stressingabstinence or focusing on how to
avoid getting pregnant orgetting a sexually transmitted
infection, but none of this hadanything to do with female
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pleasure.
So the next best thing was tolearn from porn, which
potentially is even worse.
What do we get from porn?
Except that every guy must havea huge penis and every girl is a
size six that can get off from30 minutes of constant pounding
with penis and vagina sex.
Right?
And both of those things arevery far from the truth.
Porn is.
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Nothing more than scriptedentertainment, but it's also
where a lot of people firstlearn about sex.
So the focus of today is toprovide some real education
about sex and some accuratedescriptions of pleasure points
on both female and male bodies.
By taking the time to exploreboth our partner's body and our
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own, we can find that there aremany erogenous zones and also
many ways to orgasm.
So we'll talk about why penisand vagina sex doesn't cut it
for most women, because itdoesn't stimulate the right
spots, and usually it happenstoo soon.
Research shows that it takes afemale body approximately 15 to
20 minutes of stimulation beforephysical signs of arousal even
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occur.
But for most people that I talkto in heterosexual
relationships, penetrationusually occurs approximately
five minutes or so afterinitiation or after the first
touch.
So.
For most of the female bodies,their body hasn't even had time
to have physical changes ofarousal before.
We're already thinking aboutpenis and vagina sex.
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So whether you're looking tolevel up your solo game or spark
new things with a partner, um,maybe you're just wanting to get
to know your body better.
Today we're gonna learn abouthow to be curious, explore and
redefine sex by looking at thewhole pleasure spectrum one spot
at a time.
So let's start with the G spot.
I.
Which really isn't a spot atall.
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It's, it's more of an entirearea.
It's located about two inchesinside the vagina, along the
anterior vaginal wall.
So this area is just below theskeens glands.
The skeens glands produce fluidfor female ejaculation.
And, this.
Area was named after Dr.
Ernst Grafenberg, who was aGerman gynecologist.
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In the 1950s, he described anous zone that could lead to
intense arousal and orgasm.
He was primarily studying femaleurethral stimulation and didn't
even call it the G-spot himself,but he just described it in more
clinical terms.
So before the G-spot really evenbecame a thing, it was just part
of a scientific paper that hewrote.
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The actual term G-spot wascoined much later in 1981 by Dr.
Beverly Whipple and Dr.
John D.
Perry.
They not only studied this zone,but they also gave it the name
that stuck the G-spot in honorof Dr.
Grafenberg, who was the originaldiscoverer.
And they published a book in1982 titled the G-Spot and Other
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Recent Discoveries about HumanSexuality.
And this is what really explodedthe G-spot into public
consciousness.
But there's more.
The A spot is also known as theinterior fornix erogenous zone,
and that's located deeper insidethe vagina, near the cervix,
along the anterior top wall.
This was brought into thespotlight.
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Thanks to research by Dr.
Chua Chee Anne, who is aMalaysian gynecologist in the
early 1990s.
So, Dr.
Chua observed that stimulatingthis area could lead to
immediate lubrication and alsomore of a, a deep orgasm,
especially for women who hadtrouble with arousal.
And he named it the a spot forthe anterior fornix erogenous
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zone.
So it's less well known than theG-spot, but many say that it can
deliver more intense orgasms.
And then to make things evenmore confusing, the O spot or
orgasm spot is a term thatemerged in discussions of female
sexual anatomy, but it reallylacks substantial scientific
validation, proponents of the Ospot suggests that while the a
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spot is located on the anteriorvaginal wall just before the
cervix, the o spot is describedas being adjacent to or
overlapping the cervix itself.
So potentially lower or deeperthan the a spot.
And that just kind of depends onthe anatomy, while both the A
spot and the O spot are thoughtto be highly sensitive, the o
spot is discussed more often inaesthetic gynecology and PRP
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therapy context.
So PRP is platelet rich plasma.
If any of you have ever heard ofthe OShot, this is where they
draw blood from the patient,they spin it out, they separate
the plasma and they call thatPRP, and then that's what they
inject into areas around the Ospot.
So the A spot, on the otherhand, has been documented in a
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small number of clinical andanatomical studies, and it's
important to remember that thevariability in individual
anatomy and also the subjectivenature of sexual experience, can
mean that those zones may or maynot be universally present or
sensitive in all individuals.
And then tucked just above thevaginal opening and below the
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clitoris.
Lies a sensitive area around theurethral opening, and that's
called the U spot.
And though U spot is not aswidely studied as the G-spot or
the A spot, sex educators andsexologists started.
Paying attention to this zoneearly in the two thousands, and
even though the name'sunofficial, it's not yet a
mainstream medical term.
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The U spot has earned afollowing in the world of sex
positive education.
It's a highly sensitive area, solubrication and light touch are
important when exploring the Uspot.
And then for some stimulation ofthe cervix are what has
sometimes been called the Cspot.
Can be pleasurable, can causedeep, more full body orgasms
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described as slower building,maybe more emotional or
cathartic than clitoral orgasms.
Others could experience cervicalstimulation as uncomfortable or
even painful.
So it truly depends on theperson, the context, even the
phase of the menstrual cycle.
So because the cervix can besuch a sensitive area, it's
really crucial that stimulationis done gently with lots of
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arousal and consent for many,the arousal level significantly
affects comfort, because one ofthe main physical changes that's
associated with arousal is aslight widening of the upper
vagina and elevation of thecervix.
The more turned on you are, themore enjoyable that deep
stimulation could be.
And then of course there's theclitoris.
So although this part of thefemale anatomy is pretty well
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known, it wasn't fully mapped in3D until 2005, when Australian
urologist, Dr.
Helen O'Connell, used advancedimaging to reveal the internal
structure of the clitoris.
And that includes a wishboneshaped internal legs and bulbs.
And prior to that, the clitoriswas often left out of anatomy
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textbooks entirely.
Science is still discoveringmany aspects of the clitoris.
We now know that there are over10,000 nerve endings in the
clitoris, making it the mostpleasure, dense structure in the
human body.
Also, interestingly, it's theonly anatomical structure that
is designed solely for pleasurewith no other purpose at all.
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So what about the rest of thebody?
Well, it turns out that the bodyis basically a treasure map of
turnons.
There's lots of areas that canbe considered erogenous zones.
For example, a 2011 functionalMRI study by Dr.
Barry Komisurak showed thatnipple stimulation activates the
same region of the brain asgenital stimulation, meaning the
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brain literally experiences itas sexual pleasure.
People with vulvas can evenexperience nipple induced
orgasms and nipple play canenhance arousal across the
board.
But what about other areas?
So I bet you didn't expect theears to be on the list.
Right.
The auricle or the outer ear andthe ear lobe are both rich in
nerve endings and connected tothe vagus nerve, which plays a
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role in relaxation and evenarousal.
So what about penis owners?
Well, vulva owners are morecomplex, um, with multiple
erogenous zones in the genitalarea, but there's one area that
can be sexually stimulating forboth sexes.
You know what I'm talking about?
The back door, a k, a anal play.
The anus has mini nerve endingsthat are very sensitive to touch
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and stimulation.
Anal play is becoming much moreaccepted.
Studied and experimented with.
There are toys that arespecifically designed for anal
play and the best part is thateveryone can experiment in this
area.
Just a word of advice.
So if you are looking to exploreanal play with toys, make sure
that you purchase toys that arespecifically designed for that.
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They should always have a largerbase.
Otherwise, you'll be on the nextepisode of"Sex Sent Me To The
ER" so for penis owners, theprostate is a significant
erogenous zone.
Many describe orgasms fromprostate simulation, much like
the cervical orgasms of vulvaowners.
Kinda more of a full body,slower building, but very
intense orgasm.
The prostate is located abouttwo to three inches inside the
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anus on the belly side, and it'ssometimes referred to as the Now
I mentioned the importance oflube for sensitive areas in
vulva owners, but it's just asimportant here.
Maybe more so with, anal play.
So additionally, it really doestake some preparation for
pleasurable anal play.
It should not be painful, sokeep that in mind.
They actually sell analpreparation kits, so just
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different sizes of butt plugs toget your muscle, used to that
relaxation.
So that really tells you that itis becoming more common and more
acceptable.
so those things are available inany toy store.
So what do we have?
G-A-O-U-C-P.
Clitoris, nipples, ears, anus,thighs, the list goes on, right?
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So at the end of the day,pleasure isn't confined to one
spot or one script.
You know, there's so many waysto experience pleasure that
don't involve penis in vagina orpenis in anus penetration.
Earlier I mentioned porn and thepoor way that it portrays what
pleasurable sex really is.
But unfortunately, many seethis.
And then they mistakenly believethat penetration is the end all
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of a sexual episode, but it'soften more important.
To focus on outercourse ratherthan intercourse.
So for example, a 2011 study inthe Journal of Sex Medicine
showed that only 10 to 15% ofheterosexual couples did not
include penis and vaginaintercourse as part of their sex
script.
While nearly 65% of gay andbisexual men did not include
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penis in anus intercourse aspart of theirs.
And they found that the 12 mostwidely engaged in behaviors by
gay and bisexual men in theirmost.
Recent male partnered sexualevents were, and I'm gonna read
these off to you.
Number one, gave oral sex, 75%,two kissed on the mouth, 74.8%.
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Three, received oral sex, 73.4%,four masturbated partner, 63.7%.
Five held partner romantically.
62.8%.
Six.
Masturbated by partner, 62.4%.
Seven.
Genital to genital contact,60.3%.
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Eight.
Anal intercourse being thereceptive partner, 35.5%.
Nine.
Anal intercourse being theinsertive partner, 33.8%.
10 solo masturbation, 32.6%, 11oral to anal contact, performing
25.4% and 12 oral to analcontact being the receiver,
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26.1%.
So speaking as such to a broadersex script and how these
behaviors were put together,men's sexual repertoires were
diverse with gay identified menreporting a total of 1,300 and.
Eight unique combinations ofbehaviors and bisexual
identified men reporting a totalof 617 combinations during their
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most recent male partners sexualevent.
The number of behaviors variedwith most events, including
between five and nine differentsexual behaviors, but
interestingly, forheterosexuals, the average was
typically one to two differentsexual behaviors on route to
penis and vagina sex.
So really the key is curiosity.
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You know, exploring withoutpressure tuning into sensation,
honoring what feels good in yourown skin.
There's really no one size fitsall when it comes to pleasure,
and that's what makes thejourney so endlessly exciting.
And you deserve pleasure.
That feels true to you.
And as a vulva owner, youdeserve more than a 65% success
rate when it comes to pleasure.
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So have fun exploring and untilnext time, stay curious, stay
empowered, and stay you.
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Until next time, stay curious,stay empowered, and stay you.