26: All's Fair in Love and Books

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Music. Hello, hello, hello.
Welcome back. Welcome back to the Sauce Box.
How y'all doing You guys enjoying your summer?
Getting hot and sweaty, cooling off in the water?
I know you are. How do you not use sunscreen?
Because I never think I'm going to be outside as long as I am.
You so you Samara's got this sunburn on her lower back that I

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used to get all the time when I was gardening.
And it's where your shirt just kind of lifts up a little bit
above your pants. And so you just have like a
strip of sunburn. Oh, I got it from also.
Hi, I'm Samara. And I'm Nikki.
I was wearing that like crop topat the fair yesterday and so my
lower back was just fucking exposed.

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So it's, yeah, I've got that lovely little strip and now my
chest and the tops of my shoulders.
So you went to the fair thinkingyou weren't going to be outside
that long. Yeah, 'cause we just went to go
see the Pigs race and. And then you wound up being
there for three hours and then. We ended up being there for
three hours 'cause then I got hungry and he wanted a sweet
treat and then I wanted to ride a ride and then we had to wait

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for you to get in. I.
Know, I'm sorry, I'm so sorry. I had to do stuff for the pod
that couldn't really wait cause I've been kind of trying to get
on this guy for a few days. Seems like maybe a couple of
weeks. More than few minutes.
Yeah, like a. Couple weeks 'cause he had some
mics like the ones that we use and I wanted to buy another ones
that we can. Do guests have guests?

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Well, not do the guests, but have them.
Yeah, let's not. Let's not do them.
No thank you man, they were so the little pigs they had.
They all had their own cute little names. 1 was Sourdough
Joe and they all had different colored vests that had numbers
on them and they were these little Alaskan pigs, which the

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people that brought the pigs to the fair, they work with some
Conservatory or whatever becausethey're endangered Alaskan pigs
are. And over the last few years, or
like a decade or something, I can't remember, he was saying
that between them and the conservatorship or whatever
conservation, they've been able to help raise the population of

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the Alaskan pigs so they're not threatened and now they're just
endangered. Nice.
So they're helping and they had these little fucking hurdles for
them to jump over and they were so God damn cute.
They were. I saw that on your snap store.
I was like, OK, that's pretty fucking cute.
Super cute watching these tiny little pigs run around in a loop
jumping over these tiny little hurdles.
Yeah, just a short little 100 meter dash, and they had like

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the shaved sawdust for them to run on, and it was so goddamn
cute. Yeah, at one point he stacked
like, I think it was like two orthree of these hurdles on top of
each other. And like, he's going to get
really fast. He's going to jump over it and
then there is a, a secret like swing door at the very bottom.
And so he just kind of paused for a second and pushed through
it and everyone lost their minds.

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It was, it was fucking adorable because.
Everybody was waiting for this pig to like jump 3 hurdles high
and it was like, actually there's a secret door here.
Yeah, he's like, it's like. It made my inner child very,
very happy. That's so funny.
So Speaking of the fair yesterday, we wanted to meet up
at the fair earlier in the day. That which didn't happen.

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But once I got there, I was not prepared to ride rides because I
wasn't like, Oh yeah, I'm going to ride rides today.
I was like in a denim mini skirt.
It's a chippy. Lot.
I have a yeah, I had like this like necklace on had a bunch of
different like chains all in one.
Anyways, Samara for whatever reason is like, well hurry up,

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I'm going to leave the fair soon.
I was like, OK, well, I'm I'm waiting in line for security
like I'm going to. I'm doing my best.
I'm basically there. Yeah, well, and I even paid an
extra $2.00 to buy my entrance ticket online so I didn't have
to get out of the security line to go buy a ticket.
Oh, damn. But I finally get in there and
Samara's like, OK, well, I'm going to wait for you over by

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the zipper. I'm going to get in line when
you get here. Like, OK, well, I already know
that her boyfriend Gavin isn't going to go.
He's afraid of heights. Yeah, I'm amazed that he.
I like that he forgot that he was afraid of heights for that
one ride. He he rode one ride with us and
he was like, oh, that was a terrible fucking mistake.
Yeah. Why did I do that?
Yeah, well, my, my, my experience yesterday was similar

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to that. I have some magic about getting
people to forget their fears, todo stuff with me until they're
in it. So like, OK, so I have a fear of
heights or I guess more accurately a fear of falling is
really more accurate, you know, is more what?
Like the fear of heights is right, 'cause if I know I'm
safe, I'm fine. Like, I'm not like, Oh my God,

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I'm so high. Do your hands still do the
sweaty tingly thing if. If I'm like close to an edge or
something like that, I'll get like a sense of Vertigo.
Even if like you're you have a harness or something on or.
Like, you know, but it's not, it's not a fear thing.
It's just like a weird Vertigo thing.
Like my body just physically reacts to that.
But it like doesn't scare me. So anyways, I've left a fear of

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falling and like some years backat the fair, back when, you
know, Samara lived here way backwhen before she's like 18.
Back 1819. Yeah, we went to the fair and
they had this slingshot ride, which is.
Oh my God. So fun and terrifying.
And you had to pay cash to get on this ride.
But she'd, like, talked me into it.
And I was like, you know what, yeah, fuck it, let's do it.

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There I go again. And it was they pull the RIP
cord before you're fucking ready.
I mean, they make you're safe, right?
Like you're safe ready in that sense.
But before. You're like, intellectually.
Ready or emotionally or even psychologically spiritually and
they like pull the RIP cord and you fucking go flying into the

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sky on this little 2 seater slingshot and.
They have the little camera that's mounted I'm.
I'm pretty sure there's a somewhere.
Yeah, somewhere. Yeah, I know.
Oh my gosh, that's I. That's crazy.
But yeah, so. So we had done that together.
So anyways, back to the point. I go find her, she's like, get
tickets because I'm in line for the zipper.

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For the zipper. Why do I keep wanting to call it
the Skipper? 'Cause you wanted to skip
writing it. Yeah, she's like, I'm in line
for the zipper, so hurry up, getyour tickets.
Let's go. And I'm like, all right, cool.
Like I don't think about Idio. I'm like, all right, I just want
to hang out with her before she leaves.
So I'm like, whatever. So I buy my tickets.
All of it. Yeah, cool, go wait in line.

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I'm like, all right, yeah, whatever.
So we're all me, her, Gavin are in line.
Just bullshit. And then Gavin's like, all
right, we get closer to the, youknow, getting on.
And Gavin's like, this is where I part ways.
Let me have your things. I'm.
I'm gonna sit down. I'm.
Gonna go sit over here and and we get on and now, just so you
guys know, I, I, I enjoy riding the zipper, but it also stresses

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you out, terrifies me. K like, and it's not the same
way like roller coasters. Like I love roller coasters that
do the loop de loops and upside downs and I love that shit.
That doesn't scare me at all. I fucking love it.
The zipper scares me and it is our mom was our mom's favorite
fair ride. And so I had been on it my very

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first time when I was like maybe11 years old, absolutely
terrified. She wanted to rock the cage back
and forth. And I started bawling.
And you actually started crying.Yeah.
Like, I was so fucking terrified.
And she was like, Nikki, it's OK, it's OK.
She's laughing, like trying to comfort me cause 'cause Dad

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wouldn't go on it with her. Like nobody else would go on it
with her. And I was the oldest.
And you weren't even born yet. And so I'm like, all right, OK,
I'll go on it with your mom. And I wasn't like super like
scared. And I was like, you know, I'm
going to be with mom. It's OK.
But you get up there, you see how high you are and that cage
is rocking back and forth. It's it's terrifying.
It's not it's not super awesome feeling.

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It is super awesome. I love.
So mom was like, you know, she was glad she got to go on the
zipper, but she was bummed that she didn't get to like rock the
cage and spin it, you know, all the shit that she wants to do.
So then mom had come to visit mefor my birthday.
No, it wasn't for my birthday. What she come down here for?
I can't remember what she came down for, but she came to visit
and the fair was going on in town.
I was like, do you want to go tothe fair?
She's like, do they have a zipper?

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And I said they sure do. And she's like, all right, fuck,
yeah, let's go, let's go. And so we had gone kind of late.
You know, I think we got there like, maybe 930.
The line was really long for thezipper.
We waited. It's a good ass fucking ride.
It's almost always long. Yeah, we waited forever in line
and then we got to go on that ride together and I, I was much

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braver. Also was a an adult, yeah, I was
an adult. So like much bigger.
I had a lot more year old self and a lot more rationale.
But also like, you know, when you're that small, like what do
you hold on to? Like your legs are kind of
dangling can slide a little bit in the bar because of mom next
to me. She was, you know, as a kid she
was bigger than me. So it's like, not like the bar

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pushed me up against the oh, I. Get it?
That was, you know, pretty much my entire experience at any ride
ever. Yeah, I was a long time way
looser in that cage than she was.
I was just whoop right out of this bounce around in this.
Cage Exactly. It was terrifying.
So as an adult, we go on this ride a lot more fun.

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I have a great time with mom. I know she hadn't been on a
zipper in years. And so I was like, I'm not
letting my fear like hold me back from mom having this.
Plus I need to make it up to herfrom when I was a little kid and
I let her down. Mop, mop I'm.
Sure, Mom did not see it that way, but whatever.
So we had a great time. You know, really spit in the

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cage, do all this stuff like I was scared, but also being able
to do it with mom was just really was really fucking cool.
So I I sucked it all up. I was like, Yep, this it my, my
love and like desire to do this with mom completely outweighed
any fear that I had about that ride.
That sounds familiar. Yeah, and so yesterday I get in

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line and I go to get in, step into the cage.
So Samara gets into the cage before me and it's a high up the
ground. Like you guys have seen the
zipper. I don't know, I'm not going to
say y'all have been on it, but you guys know what the zipper
is. I think most of you probably
actually not fucking knows. Just Google it.
Look it up. Anyways, you kind of have to
step up high off the ground again, you guys, I wasn't
planning on riding rides. I came in a short denim mini

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skirt. So I'm like, how the fuck am I
going to step up into this thingwithout just like flashing my
ass and everything to everybody?And so I'm just like, OK, I'm
holding my skirt down, trying tolike, sidestep up into it.
I didn't realize. I thought you were in shorts.
Otherwise I would have let you get in first and I would have
stood right behind you. Yeah.

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I didn't realize it was a skirt.Yeah.
So you said something cool. So they lock us in.
Whatever, you guys. I'm so tall.
Like, my knees are like, my knees are touching and my from,
like, the knees down, my legs are spread apart and my toes
are, like, turned in. Like I'm so awkwardly fitting
into this fucking thing. It's just crazy.
Samara on the other hand, her feet don't even barely touch the

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bottom of the touched enough like her tippy toes.
It was more than that. Thank you very much.
I need every quarter inch I can get.
So we get in and and it starts to move and we go up to the top
and I was like wait a second, why the fuck am I in this ride
right now? Just wait, wait.
Wait, Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

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Like what just happened? How?
Why am I here? Why did I just agree to this so
easily? What the fuck?
Reality came crashing down. It really did.
It really, it really did. And you know, I feel safe saying
that it was probably like the highlight of Samara's week.
It was well at the time. At the time, yeah.
I mean, you know, it was just like, it was pretty amazing for

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her. I had a great time.
You want to tell him what that was like for you because I'd
love to hear your side of. It I could barely breathe.
I was laughing so much. I was laughing so hard I started
coughing. Oh.
My gosh. And we got a cage that spun way
too fucking easily. Oh no, it's perfect.
Oh my God, the few times like wewent upside down, just like my

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purse was like coming to the beginning and just like, oh, I'm
holding on to the bars in front of me for dear life.
I think at one point I. What was it you said about
Jesus? You.
Said I said oh fuck me Jesus like I was so fucking scared and

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it wasn't necessarily I was saying fuck me Jesus, I was
saying oh fuck me and then I wascrying out Jesus like it was 2
separate things. This happened back-to-back but
yes I I was very terrified. I was laughing the whole time,
but I was scared, like trying not to envision the cage falling
off. And it's like death or, you
know, like wouldn't have died. We would just would have been

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injured like a pin, a pin comingloose.
I know. And then I was like, well,
you're in a metal cage. I mean, you'd probably be OK.
I'm like, yeah, unless you fell from the fucking top.
Like that thing could probably just like distort and fuck you
up. I don't know, all the things
were going through my mind whileI was writing this with you and
my life flashed before my eyes like my probably a few times.
My nervous system was an absolute fucking wreck.

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Oh yeah. At at the end you were just
adrenaline clutching the bars infront of.
You just be like, Oh, my nervoussystem.
Yeah, I think I even rested my head on the bar.
Just like I feel so exhausted right now.
Like I am empty, like there's nothing left of me.
Yeah. And then we started going down
and we flipped over again and oh, it was so good.

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And then you were exhausted by the time that we got out.
Oh my God, it was so much. It was just so intense.
But because you never got to go on the ride with Mom, you know,
I felt like it was Mom kind of nudging me, like, do this for
her, you know? And then I was, you know, you
told me that you never got to ride it with her.
And I'm like, OK, well, at this point, I'm going to tell you

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what mom would be doing. And that's like rocking this
cage back and forth, trying to spin it.
And I'm going to do that with you.
And she was like, yay. And so we tried to rock.
And she's like, you're such a good sister.
Yeah, mom advocate. Yeah, substitute.
I like Libby. Libby, I got to give that to
you. Like you didn't get to ever have
that with mom. So it's very stupid to try to

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give that to you at least. Very sweet.
Yeah. Did you do anything last night?
Yeah, I went on a ride cause Piper and her boyfriend were
there. So we on our way out.
I know they told me. Yeah, we ran into him.
Yeah, they. Yeah.
First thing she said to me, she's like, oh, so I hear you
had quite the experience on the zipper.

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I was like, oh, you ran into Aunt Samara?
Yeah, sure did. Uh huh.
Yeah. No, I, I ran into them and we at
some point, I don't know, we allwent our separate ways and we
met up again. And then I wound up buying a
last minute ticket to the Chase Rice concert and it was jammed.
Oh, I saw that, which was reallycool.

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And after that I found them again.
I think they were standing in line.
Oh, they were standing in line for the zipper.
That's what it was. They were standing in line for
the zipper when I found them again and there were these.
Piper and her boyfriend. Yeah, and there were these two
guys in line behind them with with their names Ian and
Alejandro. Alejandro, let me say it proper.

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Sorry, buddy. Anyways, they were saying the
line and I just started bullshitting with them, you
know, And it was just that kid was like, I'm kind of scared.
He was like, I was like, why areyou getting on it?
Then he was like, because I liketo be scared.
I was like, OK, I was like, are you gonna scream like a little
girl? And he was like, yeah, probably,
yeah. Then he like looked over.
And now these guys, so they were26 and 23, so they were younger,

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but they. Yeah.
So I'm just, we just became friends.
Like immediately we're all just bullshitting or whatever.
And, and Piper and her boyfriendget on the ride and then these
guys are waiting for the next cage to come around.
They're like, all right, watch us.
I was like, I'm going to watch you.
I'm I'm going to watch you and my daughter and it'll be cool.
Like I'll be listening for you both to be screaming like little

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bitches and they're like, we will too, like.
OK, I love when people are, especially men, are secure
enough in themselves to be like,yeah, I'm gonna scream like a
bitch. It's gonna be great.
Yeah, exactly. Me too.
And so then they get off like they're hollering at me, like
from the cage, all the rides when they're coming down.
Oh my gosh. Yeah.
So it was, it was really fun. They get off and the five of us

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are all just bullshitting for several minutes.
And then at one point they're like, wait, you're her mom?
And. And I was like, yeah.
And they're like, well, how old are you?
And Piper goes, don't answer that.
How old do you think she is? I was like, Piper.
That's not a cool question to ask People like, especially
dudes like those. Pressure, yeah.

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Like, that's so much pressure. And then they were like, OK,
well, how old are you? They asked Piper.
And she's like, I'm not tallyingshe.
Gave him no hints. No hints.
She's like, I don't want to giveyou, I don't want to give you
any, any hints. And so they were like, OK.
And I think Alejandro guessed that I was 36 and Ian guessed I

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was 35. And I was like, flattering.
You guys are. You guys are really cool.
I really like that a lot. Did they guess Piper's age?
No. And so then they're like, OK,
well, how old are you now? And so she told them.
And when she said I'm 21, they both kind of were like, wait,
what? And like, their heads, like, fun

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back to me. Like, it was going to give
themselves whiplash. They're like, well, wait, how
old are you? And I said, I'm 44.
They're like, no fucking way. No fucking way.
That's not possible. It's possible.
The Piper goes, Mom, you remember that ride that we went
on the other night? And they were like, wait, that's
your daughter? How old were we when you had
her? Eleven.
Yeah. Oh yeah.

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Oh my gosh, this is funny. But I was very flattered.
I was like, oh, OK, cool that. Makes me good.
Jeans. Good jeans in this fam.
Truly. Yeah.
I had someone ask if I was 23 last week and I was like, I'm
not, but I accept that. Thank you.
Right. I'm actually 33.
He's like, oh damn. Right.
Like when you're like, you look a whole fucking decade younger.

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I'm like, yes I will. Thank you, Nama.
All day, all day, every day. Oh yes, Nama mom, you were
beautiful too. But Nama just had like this
timeless, gorgeous, just crazy beauty.
Thank God that we got her legs and not whatever legs our
cousins got. Sorry cuz yeah, yeah, all of the
female cousins like I mean the guys also got that.

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But who cares? Guys legs are usually not that
great. But the the women legs in our
family know it's either chicken or what we got.
Yeah, chicken or nice. Not hating, everyone's
beautiful, I'm just saying thankyou Norma.
Thank you. Thank God.
That would have been horrible. I'd be so sad.

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Say so sad. Anyway, so then after that, I
want we want to go on another ride.
So we wound up going on that ride that you, me and Gavin all
went on. Oh that spinning, spinning one.
Yeah. So it's like a it's like a 2
seater and it's like a little each like tripod of like 3-2
seaters and they each got an armand they're spinning around and
then the whole thing is spinningaround at the same time anyway

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so we go on that, but you can't have a single rider.
They didn't give a shit apparently because they let me
on anyways. So I'm sitting in my little car
patiently waiting for another passenger.
But I was like that's cool. I'll ride this by myself.
I don't care. That's not around us, bitch.
And then these guys get on and this this younger guy who's
probably in his 20s, like walks his buddies, like walk ahead of

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him, get into the car kind of behind us or behind me.
And he walks past me and then immediately stops, comes back,
looks at me. And he was like, yo, I'm riding
with her. Hey, can I ride with you?
And I'm just like, yeah, you can, you can ride with me.
He was like, fucking sweet. He said skirt.
Yeah, he was like Hold. Hold on And.

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So he got in and he was like, I'm really scared.
I was like stop. Shut the fuck up.
I can't believe you just want meto hold your hand.
I can't believe. Anybody is afraid of that ride?
Like it's not scary to me at all.
So I just don't understand that.I don't understand.
I know Gavin said that what freaked him out was not really
being secured in the seat that there's because that bar doesn't

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sit like securely against your lap.
And so for him, that's really what got him because he's he was
saying that. But the way the centrifugal
force works, you would have to fly out of the back of the seat,
which you can't. That's what logic says.
But the fear inside doesn't givea fuck.
Yeah, no, that's true. Just like you thinking you're

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going to fall out of the zipper like logic says it's not going
to happen. OK, fine.
Yeah, I'm just saying. So we have fun and Piper and her
boyfriend are in a car. That was like facing me but.
Anyone's going to fly out? It's those two.
But on this, 'cause they're so. Small, small frames.
So anyways we like go on this ride.

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This guy is like telling me about how he's scared about this
ride. His buddy behind him is like I'm
so fucking scared. I can't believe you got me to go
on this ride but a lot of us are.
You guys are going to be fine. Just looking.
Relax. Grow up here.
Like, we're gonna die. The ride starts.
Gonna die. The ride starts.
Piper and I immediately throw our hands up in the air.

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Then he's like, what are you doing?
Hold on. Fucking started dying.
I was like, are you kidding me right now?
I was like, put your hands in the air.
It's really funny. He was like, no, I don't.
I don't think I will. Actually, I don't think I will.
Ripping the bar. So funny.
Anyways, the pirate goes, you know me and you were the only
ones with their hands up on thatwhole ride.
I said I I know, but it was really funny.

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But. And so the ride starts to go.
This guy like scoots closer to me so that he his whole side,
everything is touching my side. Wow.
Yeah. And he's on the outside of the
car. So when centrifugal force starts
happening, like I would slide into him right?
And so I was like, but he did this before we the ride started

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like he just sat very closely. He said comfort me stranger.
Basically, please lady, you looksafe.
Will you excuse me, ma'am? Will you hold my hand?
Ma'am, will you keep me safe on this ride?
Hold my hand, tell me everything's gonna be OK and I'm
not gonna die. Also look at my duck tattoo.
Like organ ducks or a duck ducks.

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OK. I was like, do you like to go
duck hunting? He was like, I do.
I was like, do you like the Nintendo game Duck Hunt?
And he just started laughing. I was like, oh, you don't know
what that is, huh? Oh, you're too young.
He was like, what is this person's?
I don't OK what's. Happening I.
Don't know. Anyways, yeah, fair was fun.
So the other thing that was coolabout the fair, which we all
discovered when we went Friday night too late unfortunately to

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get any food, was there was a stand there that's never been
there before. And they called us over and just
started giving us food, like samples of their food, which was
so fucking fuck fucking good. Holy shit.
OK, so they are call. I'm going to give them a shout
out and I'm going to post them up on on our Instagram as well

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because they deserve it. They deserve it.
Damn. Their food is amazing and also
their personalities. These guys are just funny and
just so likable. Man, they loved you.
Yeah. Boy howdy.
Anyways, their food was really good and they have like a, I
don't even know what kind of food you would say it was 'cause
they had like some Greek food, 'cause they had lamb and EUR.

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It's just like that. But they also had paella, which
it was like Greek. Meets southern cooking.
Yeah, but also Spanish cooking. So it was like, it's very, very
interesting, but it was all so fucking good.
And so the next day we all went back and we all got food there.
Me, you, Gavin, Piper, we all got food there.
I mean, we told him Friday nightwe'll be back.

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Yeah, we're going to be back. Yeah.
And it was so good. And so I go get in line to get
some food and. And the guys like I walked
first. I went there with you and Gavin
just to get some lemonade. And they just like started
hitting on me, which was funny. I'm like, I just want lemonade.
And then and then I go back a little bit later and I was like,
OK, I'm ready for some food. Also, do you guys have some
water? I'm like dying.

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And he kind of pointed to littlethings.
I was like, alright, cool. He's like, you can just have it.
And I was like, oh, OK, cool. Thank you.
So I, you know, drinking my coldwater, I order food and he was
like, well, what kind of meats do you want on it 'cause I got
the Greek platter and they have beef, chicken and lamb.
And so I said I honestly, I don't, I don't know.

(25:24):
And he's like, you know what? I'm going to give you all three.
OK? Sounds good to me.
I'm not gonna say no. Yeah, thank you.
We go through and and and he hands me my food.
This dude is just looking me up and down.
He's like, just like he is not being shy about the fact that
he's like into me, which is justfunny.
And there's a bunch of other people around and him and then

(25:46):
the other older guy, like both of them, he like grabs my hand.
The older guy grabs my hand. He was like, are you married?
And I said no. And he was like, do you have a
man? I said no and he he goes.
Do you want one? Let me he.
Let me be your man. He's like, oh, I will treat you
so good. I will make you feel so good.
I was like, wow, OK, Looks like you guys.

(26:07):
I'm just here for a lemonade. Came for a lemonade left with a
husband right. I was like what the fuck?
So anyways, he he finishes, dishes me up, hands me on my
plate and I say how much do I owe you?
And he's nothing. I was like, this is a $25 plate
of food. Don't I know it?

(26:29):
You sure? Nothing.
OK. OK.
Thanks. And that was like, kind of the
younger dude. Yeah.
Yeah. And so just the two of them
together, then they're just like, they just drop the other
customers and they both go standnext to each other just talking
to me. And I'm looking around awkwardly
at the customers. I'm like, sorry, guys, I'm not
doing. I'm.
I'm not trying to like do this. It's not me.

(26:51):
It's me, but it's not me. I'm not doing it.
Yeah, I'm just trying to get food.
I'm causing it. Yeah, I'm causing the roadblock.
That's crazy. They're just funny.
And so I decided, you know, theyasked what I do for a living and
I said, well, I have a podcast, which is obviously not what I do
for a living, but nothing else that I do is that exciting.
And I like to talk about the podcast any chance I get
anyways. And they go.

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Being a realtor is not super exciting.
So they go, hey, put us on your podcast.
How am I going to put you on my podcast?
You guys are from Georgia. So their company is called
Southern Georgia Boys. And it was like all black dudes
with I think 2 white dudes they had.
And so I'm like, I, how am I going to do that?

(27:34):
Like you guys are you guys are going to.
Yeah. And, and he was like, well,
yeah. So that's why he was like, OK,
well, can you can you shout us out?
Sure, I can do that. And so I went and ate, enjoyed
that. I came back with Piper 'cause I
wanted to get a picture with them 'cause I'm like, well, if
I'm going to shout these guys out on the podcast, then I want
to actually have like a picture,whatever.

(27:55):
And I got their Instagram so I can link that in our show
summary for you guys. And I'll also tag them in our
Instagram account as well. But you got to check them out if
they're ever in an area where you guys are, try their I will
say their beef, like I had the beef, the chicken, the lamb and
they're beef was my mouth is watering right now thinking

(28:15):
about how good holy. Shit dude, their food was.
Like I am salivating like an insane amount thinking about how
good that beef was. Like it was insane.
Oh my God, I love their salad too.
All of it. Whatever dressing that however
they made, their dressing was glorious.
So fucking glorious. So fucking good.
So yeah, anyways, just yeah, shout out to them.

(28:38):
We had fun, you know, getting some pictures with them and.
Yeah, it was great, beautiful food.
It really, really good and it was enjoyable.
Like can we get more pictures with you?
I think just just for us, I think this is good, boys.
Damn boys. Damn.
Yeah, but it was, it was cool. It was, it was a fun experience.
And I told Piper I knew that I'dgotten my food for free

(29:00):
unintentionally. Yeah.
And I think your response was fuck man.
Yeah, 'cause I had to pay for myfood, so did Gavin.
I mean, obviously Gavin had to pay for his.
I know. I told Piper.
She's like. Damn it, Jack, I should have
went by myself because they alsolike, they liked Piper too.
And so it was just. It was funny.

(29:21):
It was, man. So I could have got my meal for
free. Damn you, Jack.
It is funny. Yeah.
Good times. Good times.
So anyways, yeah. So what's up?
What do? You So Saturday night, so last
night. Yet after we left, we went back
home, cooled down in the bedroom'cause that's where the main

(29:44):
cold AC is at. Yeah.
Gavin ended up taking a nap. And then later on, before we
went grocery shopping, we were sitting there talking and I was
like, well, tomorrow's our anniversary.
So today's our anniversary. Oh, happy anniversary.
How many years is it, 550? OK.
And so I was like, well, what doyou want for your anniversary?

(30:06):
Like for your anniversary, for our anniversary, like, what do
you want? And he was like, I mean, I you.
Can just give me head that's enough.
That's all I need. He did not say that, but he's
like, well, I know what I want. I was like, OK, what he's like,
well, don't worry about it. Like I, I know you don't have to

(30:27):
give me anything. I was like, well.
Wait, so he teases you saying I know what I want but I'm not
going to tell you? What the fuck is that?
I know. That's why I kept prodding.
I was like. Motherfucker, open up and tell
me. That's not a sufficient answer
for me and not how this works. I do not accept that.
What do you want? You wouldn't tell me.
I was like, OK, well, like, did you get me something?

(30:50):
He was like, well, yeah, maybe Idid.
I was like, OK, well if you got me something, I want to get you
something. Yeah.
So give me the opportunity to give me something that you
actually want. What do you want?
Yeah, and so he doesn't fucking say anything and he just pops
up, runs into the like, his room.
And so he comes back and he asked me to marry him.

(31:13):
Shut up. Are you kidding me?
Wait, are you being? For real.
I'm being for real. Sister.
Oh my God. And I didn't believe him, so I
kept staring at him and I was like, are you for real?
And I asked him probably five times.
Oh, I'm gonna cry. Oh my God.
Oh, I'm so happy for you. Congratulations.

(31:37):
Thank you. Holy shit.
I know it's gorgeous. You gotta.
Be a Ruby. Oh my God.
Oh, I'm so, Oh my God, I'm like.That's why I was teasing last
night. I was like, I got something.
I got a hot topic to talk. About on the podcast.

(31:59):
Tomorrow. Holy shit I'm actually crying
right now. Even better when he's like, So
what I want for my anniversary is to or for for the anniversary
is to know if you would marry me.
And I was like, are you real? Are you for real?

(32:20):
Like really? He's like, yes, William.
I was like, Oh my God. Yeah, You know, after the are
you for real For like 5 minutes like I told.
You that you were joking. He always always been so adamant
about him never getting married again.
Well, we probably won't get likelegally married because the
government doesn't need to know my business, but we don't plan
on going anywhere. Like we're very happy in our

(32:40):
relationship. And so he said that he's had
this for over a month. Oh.
And he's like, all my plans thatI had were thwarted by this
fucking fair. So it's like, fuck it, I'm just
going to do it right now. So he ran and grabbed the ring.

(33:01):
Oh my God, I'm so happy for you.Holy shit.
Oh my God. Oh shit, I like, can't stop
crying. I'm so happy for you.
Holy shit, I'm. Oh, I know.
I'm very happy. I keep staring at it.

(33:22):
Holy fuck, dude, you're engaged.I know.
Look at that fucking thing. I.
Was like shit baby Oh my God. And what makes me also really
happy is that the Ruby and all the little diamonds around it
are all lab grown. Oh, nice.
I don't have to worry about the yeah, I don't have to worry

(33:43):
about anybody slaving away with their hands.
Get to get me something pretty. I'm just like, I completely
accept that. I am actually very happy.
That you chose to go that way. But I just keep staring at him
like. Oh my God, it's like, not real.
He does. Like me, he really does.
I put a ring on it. You like me?

(34:05):
You. Really, really like.
Me Oh my God, I am so happy for you.
Congratulations. Oh my gosh, you just like over
the moon. How the fuck did you keep this
in and so chill this whole time I've been dying inside.
I clearly like I don't know how you kept a straight face.
I had no this is I could feel it.
Burning in my pocket. Oh my.

(34:26):
God, I never would have even been able to guess this even if
you were like guess what happened?
No, I don't know. Someone pay for your for
groceries. Exactly that.
Never in a million years what I've thought that was what was
happening, No. It's so breath.
Fucking good job, Gavin. I am proud of you.
You've come a long way, like personally in your life and
through a lot of a lot of bullshit that you've overcome

(34:48):
and struggled with and and and YouTube both, like you guys have
been through the fucking wringerin these last five years.
And yeah, I am just so happy that you gave him another shot.
And Gavin, I'm so happy that yougot your shit straight and you
got your shit together because. So good.
I'm so emotional, Yeah. Because my sister's fucking

(35:14):
worth it. It's going to be another What
Happened episode. Oh God, I can't believe that.
It's so crazy. I'm so happy for you.
Give me a hug. I'm also sad that Mom's not
here. I know to see that for you.
She's around. She is.
She would be very, very happy right now.

(35:35):
Yeah, maybe that's why you're getting a little extra emotion.
She's like here, feel it for me too.
Yeah, Holy shit. No, that that was out of left
field. Holy shit.
Yeah. I'm so I'm overwhelmed with
happiness for you right now. Thank you.
Gavin was like, when are you going to tell your sister?
I was like, I'm going to wait till I can do it in person so I
can get the full reaction. Yeah, you don't tell me that

(36:00):
shit over the phone. Are you kidding me right now?
Fuck that. Absolutely not.
We have been through a lot together in the last five years.
So he was like, the fact that you still took me back and we've
been better than we ever have been.
I was like, she's not going anywhere.
I'm not going anywhere. What the, what the fuck am I

(36:22):
waiting for? And I was like, Oh my heart.
Holy shit I cannot. Oh my God, I'm I'm fucking, I
just like speechless dude. I just don't even know what to
say other than I'm so happy for you.
Like I take a nice, like nice look at it.
Like I honestly can't even fucking believe.
And we've talked about it so many times, like, yeah, we want

(36:45):
to. We are very unaligned alignment
with it and like everything thatwe went out of life, basically.
He's my best friend. I'm his.
I was like, yeah, wait, wait. I know you guys get each other.
You guys have the same weird fucking sense of humor.
I mean, and anybody that's listened to the podcast has
heard you talk about the number of times that you've talked

(37:06):
about Gavin and how he accepts you and how you accept him and
your guys's weird little oddities that you have that you
just, you know, yeah, kind of just makes you guys love each
other more for and. To me, that is what a
relationship should be. You guys are able to just be
like your true authentic selves with each other and love each
other completely. We've seen each other at our
worst and in the moments where we're at our best, all of them

(37:30):
between still favorite, favoriteperson on both sides.
And he did say that he kept going back and forth between a
Ruby and an emerald. He's like, when I think of you,
I think of green. And I was like, why was that so
poetic? Yeah.
So I love that he's like, but I also really love when your hair
is red. It looks really good on you.

(37:51):
And so like, I also really like red.
So I was really torn between theemerald or the Ruby.
And I was like you, you couldn'thave chosen wrong between the
two of them. Yeah, it's funny, When I saw the
Ruby, I was like, oh, that's that's so fitting.
Her hair is almost always red these days.
Yeah, it's. Like man.
I also love that it's, I also love that it's not a diamond.
Like it's surrounded by diamonds, but it's just totally,

(38:13):
it's just like it's, yeah, it's something different.
And I I think for you guys, I think that just makes so much
sense. Yeah, you know what I mean?
It's it's not the norm. It's not what everybody.
Expects it's not the traditionalyeah, yeah, 'cause I've, I've
been very open about like 1. I do not like roses.
Like if you ever give me flowers, don't give me roses.

(38:34):
Right, I'd talk rather have there's so many more more
beautiful, better smelling roses.
I like roses. I think they're pretty, but
they're they're so far down on my list of favorite flowers.
Yeah, there's others. Give me calla lilies and gerbera
daisies like that. Give me.
Dahlias and carnations. Dahlias are gorgeous too.
So I've been open about that. And then the fact that I'm like,

(38:56):
diamonds are so blase to me. There are other gemstones out
there that are fucking. Gorgeous.
Sorry I keep sniffing you guys. I am.
I'm trying to reel in my emotions right now.
I'm coming down. So I just apologize.
I'm trying just yes. Just bear with us.
I can't edit all this shit out. We'll, we'll do.
We'll cut. It down sorry continue, but I

(39:18):
was like there's so many other gemstones out there that are
absolutely stunning and beautiful.
I don't mind diamonds, but, you know, like for a wedding ring or
an engagement ring, whatever, Like, I don't want that to be
the main stone. I even told Shane that when we
got engaged. And so I'm just over the moon
that he I'm. I'm fine with all the little

(39:39):
diamonds. That's fine.
Yeah. But he listened.
Yeah. He's so good at that.
I love that. God, I'm so happy you guys are
so fucking lucky. You got to get my reaction and
her engagement announcement on the podcast like.
It's on record forever holy. Shit, you guys just witnessed
something so beautiful and so fucking special.

(40:00):
Yeah, if you're lucky, we'll puta little clip on online for you
guys so you can see Nikki just. Yeah, Oh my God, dude.
And that just, it makes me feel so much love from him and also
from you, just that. I can't keep thinking about it.
I'm going to cry. It's crazy.
I was surprised by my own reaction.

(40:21):
I was like holy shit. What am I feeling?
Is this love? Like oh I'm like fuck bitch,
you're not the one that got proposed to.
I and I didn't cry like I thought to what not thought to
but I. Thought I was going to cry in
this moment. I didn't cry like I thought I

(40:42):
was going to because. I was in shock.
Yeah. I was literally stunned.
I didn't believe him. I was like, are you?
You're really asking me as he's holding a ring box with this
ring in it at my face, and he just asked me to marry him.
I was like, are you? Are you for real?
Look back and forth. Are you for real?
This. Is a mean joke.

(41:05):
Wait, really? Like you're not playing with me?
It's like, yeah, will you fucking answer me?
I love him so much. Even in a very romantic, amazing
moment, I'm still a dumbass. It's part of my charm.
Yeah, but that though that it's not even just you though, it's,

(41:26):
it's just not, it was so unexpected, like so unexpected
about it. But it's just, it's also just
unexpected for the fact that I mean, he had always kind of been
open about not wanting to get married again.
And you were fine with that. Like neither of you guys, you
know, I know you told me before that you guys had like discussed
it, but like talking about getting married and actually
getting married are very different. 2 opposite ends of

(41:50):
the spectrum. And like you, it doesn't mean
anything really. But that like that, when you
pulled the ring out and put on your finger, I was like, OK,
what fucking joke is this? I was like just waiting for the
punchline. And so I kept asking.
I was like, wait, are you for real?
Like. It's not like the your reaction
and my reaction to seeing this ring was the same.

(42:10):
Wait, really? Dude, that's what I lost my
shit. Yeah, floodgates really did
open. Holy crap.
Yeah, Thanks, Mom. I didn't need to feel your shit
too. Thanks, Mom.
Blaming it on her, actually, I'mnot really that emotional.
You're really not. So that was you were channeling
your emotions and hers. Yeah, well, and I also, I also

(42:30):
absolutely fucking love the shitout of you.
Like you are one of my most favorite people in the world and
so. You're my favorite.
You being able to to have this kind of happiness just makes me
so fucking happy. Thank you.
Love you. I love you.
OK, we. Have to talk about something
else who a fan of my eyes like it's somehow going to dry my

(42:53):
goddamn tears. Oh, all right.
Well, you wrote down some talking points that you wanted
to bring it up and. Imagine going to these topics
after your fucking engagement. They all seem so stupid.

(43:16):
Perfect. It will get you to stop crying.
Oh my God. Oh, OK, these seem so fucking
dumb now. I don't even know.
I fuck. OK, you know what, let's just
I'm going to maybe come back to those.
But maybe when things are very, maybe things have died down a
little bit. But I am reading this book want,

(43:38):
which is also going to be my book recommendation for today
and. We're doing that today.
Where's the calendar? Let me guess one more time.
It is the last episode of the month that you did write on the
calendar, so yes. Fuck.
All right. So thick, right?
OK or Google, but also listen, I'm listening.

(44:00):
OK, so I'm Linda. So I am reading this book.
It's called Want and it's by Gillian Anderson.
Yes, the blonde actress from TheX-Files that Gillian Anderson.
So this book is a compilation ofthe sexual fantasies that women
have from all around the world. You talked about this.

(44:23):
It's different, different ages, incomes, sexualities, different
areas of the world. It's like just she tried to
touch on every kind of socioeconomic and every
ethnicity, just she wanted it tobe as broad as possible.
Beautiful. And so I think she had this

(44:44):
survey out for a few months for women to write in and to just
share whatever their sexual fantasy was.
It's all completely anonymous. Hers is even in here, she said.
She even put her sexual fantasy in here but.
And so hers is also anonymous. You don't know which one I.
Don't know which one is hers. I like that I know.

(45:05):
And so this book is, is broken up into different categories and
you have her introduction, whichis actually really good.
And it's really cool to just seethis from her perspective.
And as a woman, I relate to whatshe was saying and the things
that she talks about in here on a very deep and intimate level.

(45:27):
But you have here's the categories for for some of the
letters because she, you know, she got went through all these.
This is not even all she said I could write 20 more books with
how many that she had submitted to her.
Yeah, make a series, girl. That's what I'm saying.
So she she separated them into different types of categories.

(45:47):
So you have rough and ready to be worshipped off limits.
Rough and ready. The captive kink, strangers,
power and submission exploration.
More more, more. The watchers and the watched.
I always have a thing for dot dot dot and gently gently.
So those are. Good.
I feel like those give a good idea, Yeah, what a different

(46:10):
category could be in there. So I haven't read all of this
book, but it's not a book that you need to read all of it.
Yeah. Because it's not a storyline.
It's not a storyline. Yeah.
So you could skip around or whatever.
And I will say there are some inhere that are so fucking hot.
And there is one that I'm going to read to you guys right now
that I read just about an hour or two ago when I was out on my

(46:31):
patio reading. And it is so fucking hot.
I was like, oh, yeah, no, I've definitely had similar
fantasies. Like not like every single thing
she says in here, but definitelysimilar.
So I just this is this is for all the ladies out there.
Well, you guys too if you want alittle insight, but.
This is for all the ladies out there.
Right, OK, in my fantasy, my husband has invited his friend

(46:57):
to stay the night as they're leaving together on a trip in
the morning. After dinner, my husband goes
upstairs, but I pour myself a glass of wine and finish
cleaning up. His friend comes in, pauses to
thank me for dinner before he goes up to the guest room.
By the time I go upstairs myselfand get changed for bed, my
husband is crashed out and snoring.

(47:17):
I grab a hoodie and go back downstairs and into the Home
Office, which is off to the sideof the kitchen.
I push the door to leaving a bigenough gap so I can see if
anyone comes into the kitchen. I sit at the desk facing the
door, turn on the laptop and go to my current favorite porn site
address. I slip my hand down under my

(47:38):
pajama shorts and slide my fingers through my lips and down
towards my vagina and then back up towards my clitoris.
Watching the screen. I roll my finger over my
clitoris, enjoying the sensation.
I put my feet up on the desk andrelax into the chair.
I begin to move faster and can feel myself building towards
climax. A movement in the light by the

(47:59):
door distracts me and I pause for a moment.
There's no sound. It was probably just one of the
cats. I resume my touch.
My eyes are closed, my head is back against the chair.
I'm breathing heavily and tryingto keep my noises to a minimum.
Suddenly, I hear the office doorclose.
My heart is in my mouth. I can't see beyond the glow of

(48:21):
the laptop, so I have no idea who has just joined me in the
room. Right.
I hear footsteps getting closer and heavy breathing.
I feel a hand on my ankle. I freeze.
I look up and see the outline ofmy husband's friend dressed in
just his boxers. I can see he is hard and this

(48:42):
excites me more. He lifts my leg and positions
himself between me and the desk,my legs either side of him.
I continue to move my hand, justslowly.
He kneels down in front of me, his head now in line with my
hand. He can see exactly what I'm
doing. He reaches up to my shorts and

(49:02):
knickers and I sit up a little off the chair to help.
As he pulls them down and off inone swift movement.
His head moves close to my hand.I can feel his breath on me.
He puts a hand on mine to stop me.
His other hand slides a finger down through my lips and enters
me, sliding in and out. I take a sharp breath.

(49:25):
He presses his lips to my clitoris and flicks me with his
tongue. I gasp and let out a squeal.
He pushes a finger against my lips.
He continues to lick and flick harder and faster and faster
until I come. I was like hold fuck the finger
against the lips. I was like Jesus, good Lord

(49:48):
lady, this fantasy's. Hot good Lord, lady.
Anyways, continue and on take. A breather come up for air.
Jesus. Oh, you just banned herself with
a notepad? It's fucking hot.
OK, where, where am I? My hips push upward against his

(50:09):
face and the waves of pleasure rush over me and he continues to
flick at my clitoris just enoughto send aftershocks through my
already quivering body. I relax back into the chair and
he stands up in front of me. He has discarded his boxers so I
have a full view of his throbbing hard penis.
I smile and then lean in and kiss its side.

(50:30):
He stops me and lifts me on to the desk, pulls me toward him
and with ease I slide on to his penis.
He starts to gently push himselfinto me.
It feels so nice to have a Dick inside me.
Sometimes the real thing is needed.
We start to rock back and forth,up and down.
I feel him throbbing inside of me.

(50:51):
His breathing is heavy and beginning to get faster.
I realize this is going to be quick and don't want to miss out
on a second orgasm. I need to give myself a hand so
I lean away a little and slide my fingers down towards my clit
and begin to make circles in time with his thrusts.
I feel him speed up, so do I. He thrusts hard and I feel the

(51:13):
jutter as he comes inside of me.I speed my fingers up to bring
myself to climax. I feel the waves of orgasm
coming again. I continue until it happens and
I fall back a little and every nerve in my body is buzzing.
I slide towards him, eating moreof him with my vagina and I can
feel my muscles squeezing him inside of me.

(51:35):
We stay together until both our breathing has returned to normal
and our bodies have relaxed. He steps back, kisses my
forehead, then picks up his boxers and goes back upstairs.
I close the laptop, grab my shorts and pull them on, then go
back up to bed and settle into sleep.
The next morning when I wake, I hear my husband and his friend

(51:56):
talking downstairs. I roll to the side of the bed
and realize that I only have my shorts on.
I must have less left my knickers on the floor in the
office. In the kitchen, I grab a cup of
coffee and stand on the oppositeside of the counter next to his
friend. He places his hand on my back
and I feel it slide down to the bottom of my shorts and then

(52:16):
back up inside of them. Realizing I'm not wearing
knickers, he looks me in the eyeand raises an eyebrow, then
moves his hand toward my inner thigh, lightly brushing my just
bare skin. My husband is too busy making
breakfast to notice. I step into the office, spot my
knickers on the floor by the edge of the desk, grab them, and

(52:37):
rapidly put them on under my shorts.
Back in the kitchen, my husband says he's going to pack the car
for the trip. I am alone again with his friend
who puts his coffee down and walks over to me.
He pushes me back into the office and kisses me hard.
He slides his hand quickly undermy shorts and knickers and
smiling moves his finger over myclit and I lean back against the

(52:59):
doorway and raise my leg againstthe bookcase.
He quickens his pace, no time tohang around.
I feel the sensation building and I suck a hard and I suck in
a hard breath. I'm going to come.
He can see it in my face and he lightly circles my clit with
intent. It hits me and every muscle
tightens. He holds me tight, flicking and

(53:21):
circling my clit until my body relaxes.
He leans in and whispers until next time, then leaves me there,
breathless and glowing, just as my husband returns to the
kitchen. He has no idea.
Of the pleasure I have just experienced.
Oh my gosh damn girl. That is a really fucking hot

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fantasy indeed. Good load.
Yeah. No, I was.
Yeah. Sometimes I read these books and
I'm like, I get this question a lot, especially from guys
because, you know, there's a lotof men out there who don't know
what literature is and or literary erotica.
They like, they don't know what that is necessarily.
Like they immediately think of like Harlequin romances.

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So they think of like Harlequin romances, you know, some Fabio
looking dude. And it's like just cheesy shit
is what they think of. Like those classic romance
novel? Kind of thing, yeah.
And and I tell him no, no, that's the grandma of these
books and she is so tame. No modern day literature is it

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is literary porn, you guys, but like with a good storyline.
I mean, just like porn, though, you can find some that's like
straight to the point, you know,just real quick and easy.
Not there's different degrees. There are for sure, for sure,
and and all the different kinks.So like, whatever you're into
there is there is a there is a book on it.
There's a group of, they're not librarians, they work at a

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bookstore, but they'll do these videos.
It's like where they're they're playing like one of them is a
customer like hey, do you have abook that's like a snake, but
he's like a monster and he's gota big and they're like, oh,
you're talking about and then they'll go grab the book that

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that's about and hold and they're like, Yep, that's the
one. Thanks.
And they do that a a lot with like smut basically different
books like that and I. Love.
I love those. I actually learned about a lot
of books that I want to read through those.
And they're, they're fun 'cause they have such a different, a
wide range of, you know, if you're into like vampires or you

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want something with like a snake, like there's all sorts.
If you're into the serial killer, if you're into, you
know, masochism and sadism, likethey're, I'm telling you like
there is something for everybodyin that.
So I was, I tell guys when they asked me about this, which I get
a lot from Reddit 'cause they know I'm writing a book and then
they'll ask me questions about that.

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And I, and, and then I've even had, you know, different guys
that I've talked to ask, you know, like, do you get yourself
off to this or whatever like that?
Like that seems kind of weird. And I was like, it's a.
Weird thing to ask for somebody.And so I tell him like, this is
like porn. And yes, I have several books
that I've read where after a certain scene I'm like, holy

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shit, I need to go masturbate. Like that was so.
I need I need a release that wasso.
Fucking hot. Like, yeah, no, I need, we're
going to put a bookmark in this right now and then go take care
of some business. Like you're like, holy shit,
that was hot. And so and those are the books
that I like to read and that is the book that I am writing
currently. I love that.

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But yeah, so that's just a little, little taste.
Of of it and then I have one other one that I want to read.
To you guys. It's not nearly as long.
My deepest sexual desire is in dominance and worship.
I want to be revered, feared andworshipped as an all powerful
goddess. There is nothing that turns me
on more than a pathetic, whimpering man bowing to my

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every whim, begging, pleading, desperate, aching for even a
glimmer of my attention. The idea of a man thanking me
for allowing him to come, or even more, allowing him to fuck
my divine body the way that somemight thank God for their
blessings, is dreamlike to me. Even more, I want to command a

(57:27):
room even before any foreplay. I want my presence to radiate
sexuality, power, desire, control, confidence, to strike
fear and awe into a man as I enter and then 30 minutes later
to be writing him as he sweats and cries and gratitude at the
opportunity, taking every order I give.

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Samara's really just enjoying this right now.
I am. I don't want to interrupt.
Please continue. I am a small young woman from a
male dominated society. I grew up.
A fundamentalist Christian whereany fantasy of sex was sinful,
let alone a woman being anythingother than submissive to one

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man. I feel as if I will never be
able to express this part of me.Get out.
Yeah. For I was like, that's a pretty
fucking hot fantasy. Yeah, I love the crying part.
Yeah, what was it as she's riding him and he sweats and
cries in gratitude at the opportunity, taking every order

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I give. That's what really got me.
I was like, oh, she wants him tobe a tiny man.
Yeah, well, she said a pathetic whimpering man.
And even though like. That woman is sexually repressed
for real. But I love reading these and I
think, and there's just so much variety in this.
And as a man, I think if you were to read a book like this,

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it would give you a lot of insight into the different types
of fantasies that women have. Because I think a lot of men
maybe don't truly understand some of the fantasies that women
have, or maybe they're not. They don't think as broadly.
But also for women, it's a really great book to read,
especially if you were somebody who lives in a society or grew

(59:17):
up with a belief system that restricted your sexuality and,
and how you thought about sex and how you saw sex and what you
were able to do and explore. And it's really great to read
these and realize, oh, OK, I'm not alone.
There's actually thousands of women who share this same kind
of fantasy or this same theme or, you know, or in my similar

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situation, who also have these kind of fantasies.
And it's it's, I just highly recommend it.
It is such a good book. It's such a fun thing to read.
The stories are all very short. I think like the longest one
I've read so far was 4 pages andthat's pretty long.
Most of them are like a paragraph.
So does in between the differenttopics, Yeah.

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Does she write anything herself,like a transitionary?
Yeah. So for each topic, she kind of
goes into her thoughts on that and.
How she sees that, how based on what she's read from other
women, you know, how they kind of see that she'll give
different examples and stuff. But it's, it's very interesting
to read and to, it's just a really good way to get insight

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into a woman's mind and as a woman or even as a man, just to
really kind of understand our sexuality a bit more.
Because I feel like, and not to generalize, but men tend to be
much simpler when it comes to sexual fantasies.
And there's fantasies in here where the sexuality of it isn't

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necessarily physical. One fantasy I read, a woman was
talking about how she basically got off on the fact that this
man paid attention to her, asked, asked her pointed
questions and then listened intently to her answers.
And, you know, had a conversation with her and
appreciated her beauty, but alsowas just like really interested

(01:01:06):
in getting to know her intellectand her heart, you know, and for
her, that was her ultimate sexual fantasy.
You know, she was like, if this man in my fantasy, I would do
anything for him sexually because he makes me feel safe.
He makes me feel seen. He makes me feel valued and
loved. I love.

(01:01:27):
That so it's just it there's which I think is really kind of
an like epitomizes the female sexuality because, yeah,
obviously we're capable of meaningless sex.
We're capable of not getting like emotionally attached to
every single person that we sleep with.
Not necessarily as good as men at compartmentalizing, but we

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can do it. And there's exceptions to every
rule, right? But for the most part, just the
way that we are wired, we are very mental and emotional and
that is tied directly to our sexuality and our desire.
And and yes, like I said before,we can kind of try to cut that
off a little bit, but sex is very personal.

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Yeah. You know, for, for women, it's
very emotional. It's very mental.
If she's mad at you or she feelslike you treat her like shit and
that doesn't just happen to be like a kink of hers, then she's
not going to want to fuck you. Dry as a desert.
Yeah, it's not happening. Whereas a man can be mad at you
and still be down to fuck you. Like, yeah, I'm really fucking
mad at you right now. But yes, I will absolutely bend

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you over. Whereas a woman was like.
Fuck you. And I touched me.
As a woman, I have such a hard time wrapping my head around
that. I'm like, because it's not
something that we typically experience being mad instead of
me, like, yeah, I'll still have sex with you.
Be like, no, don't fucking touchme.
Don't even look at me. Yeah, exactly.
Go to a different room. Yeah, just get the fuck away
from me. I don't want to smell you.
I don't want to hear you breathing.

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Go away so I can pretend you don't exist for a while.
Yeah. But yeah, it just, it, it's very
interesting. And I, I mean, as you guys know,
obviously I'm very interested insex.
I it's, it really is just so fascinating to me, all the
different aspects of it, which is partly why I like this book
so much, because this feeds on the fantasy portion.

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And for most of the women in this book, these are only
fantasies. Like they've never acted on any
of these. These are fantasies maybe
they've never even shared with asingle soul.
And this is the first time that they've been able to.
Yeah, that release. To be able to let it out and say
it out loud so to. Speak.

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I would like to know from some of the the people that submitted
stories to her, how what that did for them, being able to
release that and give that to someone.
And also knowing that complete strangers across the world are
going to know your fantasy. Yeah, without knowing it's you

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like I, I would like to hear some anonymous comments from the
submitters about that. There's some women who have
submitted in. In the beginning, before they
get into their fantasy, they talk about how difficult this is
for them to just type, just typeit out and, and to even share
it, you know, because when they do that, it's real and it, it's

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out there. And, but also that it just felt
really good to be able to cause some women do talk about that
in, in their writing. So they might say how difficult
it is at the beginning until thefantasy talk about how they feel
afterwards on it. And it's very interesting and
it's, it's cool. So at the end of each story, she
also adds in what their race or ethnicity is, if they so she

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asked them all 5 different questions, you know, to to
basically answer at the end of each of these stories or
missions. She wants to know what their
ethnic group and nationality is,religion, annual income, sexual
orientation, relationship status, and if they have
children. Now you don't have to answer any
of those and some optional, all optional.

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Some women chose not to answer any, some women chose to answer
some, some answered all. So it's just really cool because
now you're getting a little bit of an insight to these
fantasies. And I will say that some of them
that I've read are so completelyunexpected.
You know, where there's like a woman who maybe has very, she's
hands down absolutely very much attracted to women, is not

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sexually attracted to men at all, doesn't find the penis
attractive like nothing. She's like, I'd have just as
much chance of being attracted to a tree as I would be to a
man. Like it's not there, right?
Like it's just not there. But her fantasy is to have
somebody like with a penis come inside of her, like get off on

(01:05:51):
being inside of her so much thatthey, they come inside of her
and that is her fantasy. And she's like, I don't even
understand that because I don't like men and I don't want to get
pregnant. It's like none of these things.
I just, I, she goes, it seems tojust go in the face of
everything that I am. But that's, that's her fantasy.
That's what gets her off. Like man, I would love to have

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also a psychologist read some ofthese stories and see.
What their take away is, I'm telling you, we need to get a
psychologist on here, somebody who specializes in sex and
sexuality like I would. Oh, I would absolutely love.
Yeah, that would be their brain.And listen about that would be.
Cool as fuck. Yeah, for sure.
So if you guys are interested, you know, check that book out.

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It's a fun read. It really is.
And like I said, everything is really short.
You know, I think the book is a little over 400 pages long,
pretty standard. Yeah.
So like I said, you know, all the stories are really short.
Some are a couple sentences, some are a paragraph, some are a
couple paragraphs, some, you know, maybe 2 pages or
something, but just very, very short.

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And Jillian gives an introduction into the book
before she even starts into that.
And then for each topic or category of story or fantasy,
she kind of dives into that and what that might mean or
whatever. Cool.
I'm, I'm glad that she does that.
Except, I mean, I asked you if she did.
Yeah. So well, I won't go nearly that

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much into. Well, I wanted to share those
because that was what I was going to do anyways.
And it just worked out that it was also my book recommendation,
so. Hey, it works.
Mine's The Moonlight Healers by Elizabeth Becker, and I read
this 10 oh, a month or two ago, so fairly recently.
I'll just read the book description for you all.

(01:07:38):
Sounds good. So a powerful debut with a
magical twist about one woman's discovery of her family's secret
healing abilities they can bringpeople back to life and the
mysterious consequences she mustcontend with when she uses them
on someone she loves. And I had.

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The way that this is written is so cool.
Yeah. It was just a fan because it
it'll well, I'll finish reading this and then I'll, I'll go.
For generations, the Winston women have possessed an unspoken
magic. They can heal with a touch of a
hand. It's a tradition they've always
had to practice in secret. In the moonlight hours, when the

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fireflies dance in the WhirlpoolWhipper will birds sing?
But not every healer has rightfully passed on this
knowledge to their descendants. And for young Louise Winston,
the discovery of her abilities comes in less than ideal
circumstances. She brings her best friend back
from death following an accidentthe day after he professed his

(01:08:40):
long held feelings for her, fivedays before she's supposed to
move abroad. Desperate for answers and to
avoid this new reality between them, Luis's escapes to her
grandmother's lush Appalachian orchard.
There she uncovers her family's hidden history in a tattered
journal, stemming back to her brave great grandmother who

(01:09:01):
healed allied soldiers in war-torn France.
But just as Luis begins to embrace her unique legacy, she
learns that it can come also with mysterious, With a
mysterious cost, and with a lifehanging in the balance, she'll
be forced to make the most impossible of choices.
Spanning 80 years, The MoonlightHealers is a deeply empathetic,

(01:09:24):
heartfelt novel about mothers and daughters, life and death,
and the beautiful resilience of love.
Because it spans the 80 years, you get 3 different points of
view, the grandmothers, the mothers, and then Louise the
daughter, and you get to go backand kind of get the back story

(01:09:45):
on all these people. I love when they do that.
'Cause you, it'll give you the like what's happening?
Cause Luis is the protagonist. So it all starts with her,
right? And she gets a little bit more
information and then the next chapter is a more of that
background that leads kind of towhere she is right now.

(01:10:06):
But like with her great grandmother and these different
perspectives and going back to France and then coming back into
Appalachia is just, it's such a well done story.
Like I got choked up and books don't typically choke me up, but
it's like something's happening here recently where I keep

(01:10:29):
coming across these books that are just such beautiful stories
and this is one of them. And at the very end, it's like
you get this really, truly beautiful final act of love kind
of a thing. And there's you have conflict,

(01:10:50):
you have reconciliation, growth,personal growth, character
development. And it's just, it's really it.
Sounds really good. And I've always been a fan of
any writing that any author really that writes in the
perspective of multiple characters.
I love it. It adds so much depth to the

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story. It really does.
And honestly, like hands down toauthors that can do that because
I think it takes a lot to reallyput yourself in the shoes of
your characters and especially if you're a woman writing as a
man, you know, writing a mill's perspective or vice versa.
And I just, I love, I absolutelylove when authors do that.

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Those are my favorite books to read when, when they'd like
that. But I also love movies and shows
that are like that. You know, where they, they give
you those kind of throwbacks to,to kind of give you hints of why
things are the way they are now,you know, where clues on on how
to solve an issue or a problem or whatever.
But just I've read several stories that are that are like

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that, where it takes a place over the span of time and you're
getting different perspectives or it's all during the same time
period, but you're still gettingdifferent perspectives.
And I fucking love it so much. That book sounds great.
It's really good and it. Sounds like it might break my
heart too a little. Bit so it probably would a
little bit, but in the fact. That it's like the best way.

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The grandmother, mother, daughter thing, I mean, that's
always going to be pretty tenderand sensitive for me anyways,
so. Yeah, but it was, it was really
beautiful. I think it was well written and.
Oh good, who's the author again?The Moonlight Healers by
Elizabeth Becker and it's 336 pages.
Oh that's a short read. Yep.

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Not super long but crazy at all.Well done though, very well
done. Nice, I love that.
And she's really good at painting a scene too, so it, it
feels more immersive. Like there's a there's a part
where Louise is running through an orchard during a storm,
emotionally really fucking goingthrough it.
And the way she writes it, it's like you're there with her

(01:12:58):
getting rained on and you can feel the the grass and the mud
in between your toes and, and all of that.
So that's the best, that's the best kind of descriptive writing
when because you get some authors sometimes that will go
way too into detail where you'relike, OK, you just spent 5 pages
telling us about where this person is, but can we get on

(01:13:19):
with a fucking story? Right.
I don't need to know every little dip and divot in this
tree bark, right? Exactly.
There is a such thing as too much, but it's such a fine
balance that not a lot of authors can find where you give
enough detail that it's paintinga picture in the reader's mind's
eye so they can see themselves there, so that you know, that

(01:13:41):
little movie is kind of playing in their mind.
Which is how it is when I'm reading a book.
Me too. Like I almost even forget that
I'm reading and it's just a movie playing in my mind.
What's funny is not a lot of people read like that.
Oh really? Yeah, I've been seeing different
things that that's not. Oh, it's super common.
Oh, crazy. Yeah.
So and, and that for me happens really well when you're painting

(01:14:05):
the scene and what's going on, but you're not.
You're going into enough detail that I can see myself there.
I can, you know, I can fill in the blanks of maybe the things
that aren't as necessary. Yeah.
Like you're saying, you know, it's stormy.
I'm immediately picturing like how the clouds look and she's
running through the forest and OK, yeah, she's not telling you
how Gray it is or like how the lights hitting or not or you

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know, And so you're just picturing this and I love that
so. There's enough room, there's
enough detail to paint the scene, but there's enough room
for your imagination to still come into play.
Exactly. I love.
That so much that's that happensa lot in the book too.
So I think that's another reasonI really enjoyed it.
That is interesting. I did not know that that wasn't

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like the case for everybody. I mean, I didn't assume
everybody thought like that, like read like that.
But I just, I guess I never evenreally thought about it, to be
honest. That's just how it's always been
for me. When I read, I I consciously
aware that I'm reading until I really get into the book, and
then I don't even realize. Like I obviously thought for

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something interrupts you. Yeah, like I know I'm reading,
but. Somehow like my my conscious
mind just goes inward and it's just playing a movie as I'm
reading these words and, and I can see everything super
vividly. I feel everything.
I just am very very when. You read, Do you like when

(01:15:31):
you're really immersed into a book like that and there's
different characters talking? Do they they have different
voices, different cadences, everything.
Yeah, that's not the case for everybody.
But for a lot of people, they just hear themselves reading.
There's no voice change. There's no immersion like that.
It's just them reading. I'm like wow, that sucks.

(01:15:52):
That does suck. You should visit my brain for
real. Just in this this instance
though. Everything else is garbage.
But but yeah, just like not everyone has an inner voice like
an inner monologue. Oh mine never shuts up.
Sometimes. Sometimes it gets the better of
me and it actually comes out my mouth.

(01:16:13):
Oh, Oh no. Well.
I'll be like driving, you know, by myself, and I'll be having
this inner monologue and the next thing I know, I'm just
talking. I'm just talking to myself.
Like my inner monologue is now audible, you know?
And I've been like that my wholelife.
And sometimes I'll do it when people are around me.
I've gotten better. I don't do that.
It's so much anymore. But every once in awhile it'll

(01:16:34):
happen. I'm like, sorry.
I was just, they're like, what'dyou say?
Nothing. I was, I was just talking to
myself. I I do that.
A little spilled over the cup. Yeah, yeah, exactly.
I don't even know if I would like reading as much if it just
sounded like my own voice, like I was just reading out loud to
people. Yeah, someone described it as
when you're reading out loud. Yeah, just in your head.

(01:16:56):
I was like that sounds. Boring.
Terrible. Like I have completely lost my
selves. Myself more than me.
There's more than one of me. You have to pee so bad.
You're like, fuck, I got to put it down.
And then you go to put your bookmark in.
You're like holy shit how did I read that much?
Like, yeah, I was read by a couple 100 pages or 100 pages

(01:17:17):
depending on how much you how fast you read.
But there there have been books in the past where I have been so
locked in that I've had to pee. And it's just like I'm walking
to the bathroom doing everythingwhile still reading.
I'm like, I can't put this down.Yeah, it's that's crazy.
I well, I'm thankful that that'show it is for me because I don't

(01:17:38):
think I'd enjoy it as much. And I'm so grateful for
audiobooks. I I.
I am struggling with audiobooks.I'll be real.
I listened to a few years ago, back when me and my first
husband were married because thegirls were young and I just
didn't have time to pick up a book and read and audio books
were how I could get it in. And since then I'm I, I prefer

(01:18:00):
actual books. I like to hold them on my hand.
I like to smell, I like to turn the page.
But I was like, OK, well, I'm kind of busy.
Let me see if I can get into an audio book.
I have several downloaded. I've been listening to 1.
It is taking me forever. Like I'm not even halfway
through this and it like I just,I struggle.
I get into it like I I like it, I get into it or whatever.

(01:18:21):
It doesn't capture me the same way that that holding a book and
sitting and and focusing on that.
Having the giving you the story your full attention instead of
like 8090% of it. Exactly because it's hard for me
to just sit there and listen. Mm hmm, see and that's what's so
good for me with. If I'm driving, I could do it
though, I think because that's how it is with different

(01:18:42):
podcasts, like the storylines that I was telling you about
driving. I could just sit there because I
don't have to do anything else. I'm driving, I have no other
choice. Yeah, like you're paying
attention obviously because you're driving.
But that's what has been really good for me because there are
times where I either I've caughtup on all the, the podcasts I
listen to because I listen to like 20 different ones on a

(01:19:04):
regular basis because all I do is drive, you know.
And so I started, that's the bigproponent of why I started
listening to audiobooks. It started back in Moses Lake
before we moved down here. But it's really taken hold with
this job. And I will say there are some
books that I have started to listen to the audio like that I

(01:19:27):
own because I just want to read it, but I don't really have the
time to. And the narrators weren't.
And we're just not my cup of tea.
And I couldn't get into it. And so I'd have to read the
physical book. Yeah, that's a big one, too.
The narrators have to. They have to be good because
they can make or break an audiobook.
Yeah, 100%. But I really like audiobooks if

(01:19:49):
like, if I have a bunch of chores or something that I need
to get done, Yeah. I can just transition out of
work and into normal life and just keep listening to it and.
See. And for me, that's music.
Like if I'm doing anything, likeif I'm doing chores or grocery
shopping or anything like that, I'm listening to music.
I can do that. I just, I get I need change.

(01:20:11):
Yeah. I need variety in my life.
I have a hard time focusing on an audio book when I'm doing
other things. Yeah, I can understand that.
There are times where I'm at home doing stuff and I'm like,
fuck, I got to go back. I miss that.
Yeah, because you kind of get lost in your mind a little bit.
Yeah, it's like I'm listening, but I'm not consciously.
Yeah, you're hearing it, but notnecessarily.

(01:20:32):
There you go. Yeah.
Yeah, I will say I do. I do prefer to to hold a book,
read a book and that'll that'll always be top.
Yep, which is why I picked this book up again, 'cause it's like,
man, it's been a long time. Like I haven't read a single
book this year. What?
Not a single book Which is. That's crazy 'cause you fucking

(01:20:54):
loud through them last year. I know like 43 books or
something. Yeah.
I. Think it was 46, but yeah I, I
crazy I know. And so I've really been missing
it, but I've just been busy withlife and just, things are just
different. And so trying to find the time
to sit down and read. So I that's why I picked this

(01:21:15):
book up. I'm like, you know, I'm just
going to read this. I've been wanting to read it for
a while. I need to just get back into it.
And that seems like a good one too, since it's not a consistent
storyline. Exactly.
I don't have to try and rememberwhat was going on.
So I mean, that's perfect. That's a great way to get back
into reading. But I would like I so I was
going to say, 'cause you were talking about like the the
reading out loud. Which I actually like reading

(01:21:37):
out loud and there's times when you know, I would be reading and
Piper would come and lay on the bed with me and just kind of
cuddle up next to me and. Just listen to you.
Yeah, I was like, I would ask her.
I'm like, do you want me to readout loud?
And she's like, yes, she doesn'tcare about what's necessarily
happening. She just, she's like, I just
like listening to you read out loud.
And so I'll read out loud to her, which I never used to be

(01:21:59):
that good at. But I think, you know, growing
up in high school, like in the time that I did, we had to read
out loud a lot. And it wasn't an optional thing.
Yeah. You know, you, you read out loud
whether you wanted to or not, Plus you had to get up and do
presentations and whatever. And so just over time, I've
gotten really good at reading out loud, and I actually enjoy
it. So I like when she comes in and

(01:22:22):
wants me to read to her like I always think.
Sweet, I always think that. If I was in a relationship with
somebody, I would love to, like,read literature out loud to
them. Like I think that would.
That could be hot. Yeah.
I think that could be really cool and like a fun thing to do
together if they were into that.I used to be better at reading
out loud and then I stopped doing it for so long that now

(01:22:46):
doing this has made me have to work on that more.
Yeah, The thing that I always have just struggled with is that
my mind moves faster than my mouth does.
And so I I read a word and I move on to the next one before
I've actually spoken the words that I just read.

(01:23:07):
So it's like trying to get thoseIn Sync, trying to dial that
back. In that's interesting because
I'm the same way I I read it faster in my mind than I do out
loud, but it works for me. Like I, it helps me to read it
mentally faster then I speak it because then I know what's
coming and I can say it a lot clearer.

(01:23:29):
Which I feel like when I read that story, I did a pretty good
job. I didn't really mess up too
much, but I. You stumbled a lot less than
what I would have done. So, but I also thought, I'm
like, man, I, I actually looked into it, 'cause I was like, what
would it, how, how could I get into being a narrator of like an
audio book, 'cause I would fucking eat that up.

(01:23:49):
If I could just read books out loud, that would be really
fucking cool. I would love to I'm.
Sure that you could probably. I've looked into it.
They want you to wishers and they a lot of people want you to
have like voice acting skills ortheater skills and shit like
that. And I don't, I don't have any of
that stuff. So you just read out loud fine

(01:24:10):
and, and follow emotion and readin different tones and stuff.
Like, I can do all of it and I think I'm pretty decent at it
actually, but. Shit, I mean how many people
actually look at resumes? Just record.
AI know a little. Snippet and just send it in.
That's. What I'm saying like can't I
just like send you a snippet? So you said you hadn't read any

(01:24:31):
books this year? I've read 12345678910.
I've finished eleven books this year.
Shit. I know also given the majority
are audiobooks, but so you've read Slash listened.
Yeah. I mean, still, I've finished
that many books. Whatever I know it's it's still

(01:24:52):
when I think about that, I can'tbelieve that I haven't finished
a single book this year. Tender, Tender is the flesh man.
That book fucked me up. Let's never talk about that book
again. I didn't even read it and it
fucking disturbed me. Man, and what's funny, I have an
old high school friend that he he just married this this woman

(01:25:14):
last year because they just celebrated their year
anniversary here recently. And her and I are are friends on
Instagram and she'll ask me questions about the books that I
read because I'll put AI have a list.
Yeah, and I put them up on my story and so like it gets
updated when I finish one. So she'll be like, oh, what do

(01:25:35):
you think of this one? Oh, what do you think of this
one? And when I got to the tender as
the flesh, she's like, yeah, how'd you feel about that?
Told her and she's like, yeah, when I read the you.
Guys read like the same books. Some some overlap.
I think she more read that one too.
Yeah. Oh my God.
There's a there's a character inthe book with her name and she's

(01:25:58):
like, when I read that, I it didsomething inside of me.
I was like, yeah, especially being that character, I was
like, oh, cringy face, don't like that for you.
Yeah, no shit, that sucks. Yeah, man, I can't believe how
long I wanted to read that book too.
And here I am regretting it. Yep.

(01:26:22):
Oh, oh boy. What have you guys been reading
lately? Like what?
What are you into? What genres do you like?
Can you so mean I'm just kidding.
Wait, can you? Hey adult people, Adult
illiteracy is real pretty high, especially in the United States.
I mean, we are one of the dumbest countries so.
Womp womp. Yeah.

(01:26:42):
Anyways, let us know. Yeah, I'd love to know what you
guys are reading, if you have any book suggestions for us or
anything like that. Feel like you guys at this point
have a pretty good idea of of our what we're both into.
Yeah, I would think so at this point because this is July, so
this is our 6th month of book recommendation.
So yeah, I think you're probablygot a decent idea.

(01:27:02):
Yeah, you at least take a stab at it.
Mine's everything to do with fantasy and sex and Samara's,
everything that's gross and disturbing in the world.
Hey, I like fantasy too. I was just.
Teasing. Well, do you want to play a
game? I do want to play.
A game play a game. We'll be back.

(01:27:28):
All right, All right. What are we going to play today,
Samara? Put a finger down, maybe up.
Yeah, I like it. We're going to do 5 cards each
since this game usually goes pretty quick.
It does. Yeah.
This, yeah. It usually only takes a little
bit. Well, since you cried first
today you want to go. Overs.

(01:27:49):
OK, that's some weird logic, butall right, OK, put a finger
down. OK, we're going to start with
five fingers up. Five fingers up, five fingers
up. I'm going to make sure they
actually stay up. OK, well.
Shit, maybe you guys should use my left hand.
OK, put a finger down if you have used restraints.
No, wait, So it goes, yeah, OK. No, I want to.

(01:28:10):
She's like, no, let me put my finger down, that's not how it
works. I corrected.
All right, put a finger up if you've hooked, if you've hooked
up with an ex's family member. An ex's family member?
No. I I thought I had to put one up,
but I don't because I only datedthem.

(01:28:32):
Oh man, that's that was. I was almost on that Pekin.
Put a finger down if you prefer being submissive.
Mostly, yeah. Yeah, me too.
There are times where I like to be the dominant one, but more
often than not. Same.
Yeah, I do like to be a switch occasionally, but for the most
part I like to. I want to be in my feminine

(01:28:55):
energy. Yeah, I like to be dominated.
Yeah. Dom, me, Daddy.
Put a finger down if you've broken furniture while doing it.
God I wish. That's like a bucket list item,
right? You hear about people like
breaking a bed when they're fucking and I'm like, what?
Hyping off the bed. Bed friends are expensive.
Maybe like a table? But still, I think about that.

(01:29:17):
I'm like, how fucking hard were you screwing that you broke the
bed? It's impressive.
It is impressive. A table, a chair.
Yeah. I don't.
Oh, I mean, now I don't know. Does that count?
Say it it didn't break, it just didn't properly function.
That's broken. Then I'm going to say that's
broken if it didn't and in the same condition it started in.

(01:29:40):
I mean, but it still worked, it's just.
Not as well. Not as well broken.
OK, yeah. My ex and I were having sex in a
recliner and it was fully reclined.
And then somehow we fucked it upand it was really hard to get it
to go back down and to recline it.
Yeah, you broke it. That's.
Broken. OK, OK.
OK. All right.
Yeah, OK, I got it. Oh, you got 4 up, I got two.

(01:30:01):
Shit, I'm a little hoe right now.
Don't worry, I know I have at least one more put a finger up,
so OK. All right, it's your turn.
Wait, no, I'm not that. Put a finger up if you've done
it in a family member's bedroom.Put a finger up, man.
That's what I fucking thought, bitch.

(01:30:22):
I know. And yeah, that family member,
me, me, she fucked in my room, in my bed actually.
You're not the only one. Not even worth it.
So bad. Put a finger up if you've hooked
up with your ex more than a month after breaking up.
Now I'm at six. This is.
Shit, I'm at 3. Well, at least you got a little

(01:30:46):
redemption, yeah. Oh my God, put a finger down if
you've hooked up with someone 10or more years older than you.
Yep. Back to my baseline.
Fuck, I am really just not shining here right now.
I mean, I guess it depends on how you look at it.
I'm either a fucking freak or. Something something not cool.

(01:31:10):
All right, put a finger down. If you have a sex playlist, drop
that shit yo. You fucking know I do.
I know you do, that's why I picked the card.
Wow. Yeah.
You won't know how long it is. Almost six hours.
God. I'm exhausted thinking about it.
It's. Good too, I'm at. 4 So some
redemption. OK, my last card.

(01:31:31):
Put a finger down if you can. Roll your own joints.
Yeah, not well, but yeah. Yeah, I can too.
Not the best, but they're. They didn't ask about the.
Quality which is crazy because Idon't even smoke weed but.
Hey, Skills. I have no fucking fingers.
You have no fingers. Oh, you.
I have no fingers up bro. Is this a finger up?

(01:31:53):
Let's see. No fuck, I only had two of.
Those I'm going to be negative. I hope I'm not negative.
I hope you are. That would be a first.
All right, put a finger down if you used a mouth gag.
Oh, thank God. No, I haven't.
Didn't say ball gag. Just no, no, no, I'm either.
So I'll need to document this. Wow.

(01:32:13):
OK, so Samara ended this game with three fingers up and I
ended it with no fingers up. Shit, is that the second time
that I have ended with no fingers?
Correct. Fuck.
How not OK. But to be fair, not all of these
were like having sex questions. Exactly.

(01:32:36):
They were just. There were two games in a row
where I only had one left. I know, Is this the most that
you've had? Yeah, because the very the first
one that we I started recording,we were going into semantics.
So I ended with a 2.50. Right.
And it had half a finger. Oh, my gosh.

(01:32:59):
Oh, geez. All right.
Well, that was fun. How'd you guys do?
What did you end on? Are you a delinquent or do you
have respect for? Yourself so fucked up.
Just kidding. You're just kidding.
That's not how this works at all.
It's totally not how this works at all.

(01:33:19):
Actually. We're usually kind of proud when
we end with the lesser amount offingers.
Yeah, except for today. For some reason, I feel shame.
Why do I feel shame? I don't know.
That's why do I feel shame That is new.
That is new. It's you know what, whatever I
love myself, I respect. I'm a winner I.
Am AI am a winner. People like me, I'm cool.

(01:33:42):
I'm cool. I'm hip.
I'm down with it. OK, that was perfect.
I know. Well, thank you for joining us
again. Yes, for another lovely week of
the sauce box. Hey, and you guys write in and
throw your congratulations at Samara.
This bitch is engaged. Oh, my gosh.

(01:34:05):
Like she was already off the market, but now she's off the
market. Off the market.
He put a ring on it. I love you.
All right, We will talk to you guys next week.
See you in August. Deuces, peace out.
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