June 20, 2025 • 23 mins
In our very first (official) episode of The Life Chat, we (Cassie, Tina and Lauren) spill the tea on who we are, how we met, and why we’re still stuck together after all these years. Spoiler: we’ve been mates since we were 12 & 13.
Cassie shares her story of marrying young, raising her kids, and going through a big life reset after her separation (with plenty of laughs and love along the way). Tina talks about meeting her Irish hubby on a night out, with her ex, no less, and the wild ride from being a pilot to running a natural skincare biz. And Lauren opens up about marrying her high school sweetheart, facing backlash for her health beliefs, and how all that drama pushed her into a new chapter of self-discovery and business bravery.
We’re here to chat real life, the good, the messy, and the hilarious. Expect plenty of laughs, lots of love, and some juicy chats on everything from homeschooling and health to religion, politics, and why the 9-to-5 grind just ain’t it.
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MIC3 (00:00):
Welcome to The Life Chat.
So backstory, we're gonnaintroduce ourselves for the
first episode'cause people needto know who the beep we are.
you can say
MIC2 (00:16):
that's you.
You're allowed to.
MIC3 (00:18):
that.
I do swear doesn't make me a badperson.
Apparently.
According to statistics, peoplethat swear are quite
intelligent.
MIC2 (00:30):
What does I say for you, Lauren?
She's not
MIC3 (00:31):
a dumb ass.
No, we love Loz.
She's just beautiful.
She doesn't swear, but we mayget her to drop an F-bomb at
some stage.
Alright.
Okay.
My name is Cassie.
I am the C in TLC, and we arecalled the Life Chat.
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Get it.
TLC.
MIC2 (00:55):
We
MIC3 (00:55):
get it?
Okay.
I am normally the quiet one interms of I sit back a bit, the
girls talk a bit more than me.
Would you agree?
No.
Oh,
MIC2 (01:11):
Oh, I don't know what you mean.
No.
MIC3 (01:13):
Well, we'll listen to the test
MIC2 (01:16):
I'm being sarcastic.
We do talk more than her.
Really?
Oh, well you definitely do on aplane
MIC3 (01:21):
anyway.
Okay.
So
MIC2 (01:24):
she talks when it's good and she's got so good.
MIC3 (01:27):
I nominated my, alright.
Well see what I mean.
They're just, yeah, no onewanted to start.
Of the introduction, so I putmyself forward because normally
I don't, I sit back a littlebit, so I'm going
MIC2 (01:42):
Okay, go.
I'm proud of you.
MIC3 (01:46):
Backstory.
All right, let's start.
We all met when we were 13 yearsold.
Girls.
Yeah.
Year eight.
First year of high school.
School.
Oh, sorry.
yeah, 12.
Tina and Lauren A.
Little bit earlier.
Yeah.
Uh, what about HIlde?
No, Hilds year Yeah.
Year
MIC2 (02:01):
We all First day.
Year
MIC3 (02:03):
Yeah.
So Hilde.
Is another important piece ofthis puzzle.
There's four of us basicallythat have been besties since 13.
Yeah, so,
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and how old are we now?
Cassie,
MIC3 (02:19):
hooowee I am the old bag.
I actually am turning 50 thisyear.
Woo.
The girls are 49.
Still
MIC2 (02:28):
forties about to 49 now We are 48.
MIC3 (02:31):
Thank you very much.
I failed year two.
Alright, let's just get that outnow.
High
MIC2 (02:36):
did you What?
She said I failed
MIC3 (02:38):
you two.
Who the fuck fails to you two?
MIC2 (02:42):
were meant to intelligent because you swear.
Because she swear she startedswearing and
MIC3 (02:47):
then got intelligent.
Oh, okay.
MIC2 (02:49):
Hang on.
MIC3 (02:50):
Anyway.
MIC2 (02:51):
Doesn't matter.
We
MIC3 (02:52):
what?
MIC2 (02:53):
together.
It doesn't
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matter.
Best thing I ever did, because Iwas in the year that these girls
are, that have been my lifelongfriends, meant to be, meant to
be dumb ass, meant to be.
So it wasn't the most amazingupbringing, but there was lots,
sort of good points to it.
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I had a marriage that failedvery early on.
I was very young.
I had a child, very young.
Best thing I ever did, by theway, love her.
She, oh my God, she's the bestthing that ever happened in my
life.
I was on my own for a little bitwith her.
Then I met my second husband whois.
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Fucking amazing.
MIC2 (03:38):
and
MIC3 (03:38):
the best man.
I had two more children withhim.
We've spent 26 plus yearstogether.
Amazing.
We've been through trials andtribulations, both of us.
He was the father to my childthat I had with my first
marriage and was so amazing toher.
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We've brought up three childrentogether.
We are no longer together.
That's a story in itself, but Ilove him.
We're good friends.
It's been difficult.
I have had some.
mental health issues and otherhealth issues over the time.
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And right now I am in a verygood place.
We'll go into all the ins andouts of my life later on, But I
could also have not got to thispoint without these beautiful
women sitting right next to me.
We have been brought togetherright now in this place at this
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time.
We decided to do a podcast alittle while ago.
These beautiful women will telltheir stories.
They have had trials andtribulation, adversity in their
life as we all have.
And now going forward, we arejust wanting to bring different
topics.
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Our lives together and if we canhelp other people.
Fucking navigate this world,then that's what we need to do.
So I'm gonna hand over now toTina.
MIC2 (05:19):
Okay, so I am Tina, the T in TLC, Basically these girls
got me through high school.
I met my husband while he washere from Ireland on a, working
holiday visa.
And met him in a pub while I wasout with my ex-boyfriend and his
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new girlfriend, who is now hiswife and mother of his children.
Oh.
And we are still friends.
MIC3 (05:46):
That's And
MIC2 (05:48):
Paul was treading on his toes in the pub and.
No put, no, sorry.
Wrong way around.
Steve was treading on myhusband's toes in the pub and
said oh, you should come andmeet my friend.
And that's where we met.
And then, two weeks later heasked me to marry him'cause his
MIC3 (06:04):
Visa
MIC2 (06:05):
running out and we are married nearly 20 years on.
That's great.
So yeah, and now we have abeautiful 12-year-old going on
21.
And she's the boss of the houseand the boss of me.
And I didn't think anyone wouldbe able to rule me, but she
MIC3 (06:25):
need either Tina.
Holy.
MIC2 (06:27):
Yeah.
She's so in charge of me.
It's not funny.
MIC3 (06:31):
Also you are super inspiring'cause you're an
entrepreneur, you have your ownbusiness.
We'll go into that more in depthlater on.
MIC2 (06:38):
Yes.
I had many jobs.
from gyprocking to.
Being a pilot to working inJapan a few different things.
MIC3 (06:49):
you tried to breeze over all of that Yeah, because we
never want to shine a light onYeah, this girl was amazing, so
MIC2 (06:58):
Aw.
MIC3 (06:58):
Just wanted to highlight that.
MIC2 (07:01):
So I met my husband after working on a cattle station.
We went to Queensland, flewplanes, come back to Adelaide.
I went and did naturopathy andended up.
Doing natural skincare now teasall into the natural health and
hate vaccines.
MIC3 (07:23):
She's totally my witchdoctor
MIC2 (07:24):
I've just the OmMade wellness hub as well.
Which I have joined.
And honestly, this is notbecause you're my friend, the
only skincare I use is yours andthe only herbal tea I drink are
yours.
And that's not because it's you
MIC3 (07:38):
obviously.
That's how I
MIC2 (07:40):
started it.
Yes.
MIC3 (07:42):
but I'm
MIC2 (07:42):
not staying with it because it's you.
I'm staying with it because it'samazing and it works.
MIC3 (07:47):
You know what?
It's
MIC2 (07:47):
funny'cause we don't do this.
No.
MIC3 (07:49):
we don't talk about ourselves ever.
No, we don't.
MIC2 (07:51):
together, we don't
MIC3 (07:52):
we talk about so many issues.
Yeah.
We do talk about.
Things that are happening.
MIC2 (07:58):
But to go back and try and work out, okay, who am I?
MIC3 (08:01):
What's
MIC2 (08:02):
story?
We've actually never done it.
But also we've gone our separateways throughout our lives as
well.
Like we may have met when wewere 12, 13.
Yeah.
But there are times there thatwe, you were doing our own thing
and a lot of the things we aregonna talk about each other
might not even know.
MIC3 (08:19):
that's right.
Absolutely.
MIC2 (08:21):
been best friends for over 30 years.
Yeah.
But there were chunks
MIC3 (08:25):
we missed,
MIC2 (08:25):
didn't see each
MIC3 (08:26):
other.
Yeah.
MIC2 (08:27):
And we are known for catching up when we are in a
really good place.
And then
MIC3 (08:34):
withdrawing,
MIC2 (08:35):
do you think?
And going a bit, yeah.
Because we don't wanna bother
MIC3 (08:38):
each other when we're in place.
Yeah, absolutely.
MIC2 (08:39):
are getting way, way
MIC3 (08:40):
better at that.
MIC2 (08:41):
Mm-hmm.
But I must say, when I've gonethrough my hardest times, I.
Tend to go
MIC3 (08:47):
retreat myself,
MIC2 (08:48):
so I don't really share.
So this is, we are not gonna
MIC3 (08:51):
do that from now on though.
No, we'll do that.
I think we've all done thatthrough the years.
MIC2 (08:54):
'Cause you think that, oh, they don't wanna know about
that.
They've got their own problems.
MIC3 (08:58):
Yeah.
And
MIC2 (08:59):
then of course once you say it, you can't take it back.
So then the next time you catchup, when you just wanna have a
good old fun laugh and pretendlike nothing's happening, it's
like, oh,
MIC3 (09:08):
because they know.
But yeah, that's part of it'sbest friends, isn't it?
It is.
That's right.
And that's what we've had, we'velearned now we're sisters.
Like
MIC2 (09:17):
we are sisters.
We just, we
MIC3 (09:19):
tell all the stuff and the bullshit and the, if we're
having a shit time or whatever,it's not like I.
Want you to fix it or take theburden on, I just wanna tell you
just need to know and a problemshared is a problem halved it.
It's just someone listening,someone that cares.
And you just need to.
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Vent or whatever, and we'velearned that now.
I think that's part of maturingtoo.
We've all got our own lives.
We all have our problems.
We don't wanna burden anyone.
We all, we realize that now wecan just say it.
We say it feels good's true.
Have a couple of drinks maybe,or a cry, or not even a cry.
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Just laugh.
We have very dark humorsometimes.
MIC2 (10:08):
I think it's a really important point about not
wanting a solution.
But with us, we don't.
We're not always coming up witha solution.
MIC3 (10:17):
Often we don't even offer it.
We go, just a hug.
MIC2 (10:20):
just a hug.
MIC3 (10:21):
We just go, oh, that's really fucked up.
Sorry.
That's bad.
Yeah,
MIC2 (10:26):
Before it gets better.
MIC3 (10:27):
my, Oh, you think this is
MIC2 (10:31):
bad day?
Or you wait?
The bad days are still coming.
Hang on.
Can you just explain what you'retalking about?
She a really, really, really badday.
A really bad day.
It was a really, really bad day.
It
MIC3 (10:43):
a shit
MIC2 (10:44):
day.
The day before was scary.
For us both.
And then that day I think wewere like, oh my gosh, we can't
do this by ourself.
We need Tina.
MIC3 (10:55):
And
MIC2 (10:56):
we like, right, let's go see Tina.
Maybe we can do it.
The three of us can do it.
And we're driving down thefreeway and it's, it's kind of a
blur now.
Like it was a bit surreal,wasn't And then you were telling
me worst day of my life and Iwas sort of foreseeing some
stuff that you're gonna have todeal with and I just turn around
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and look at you and go, it isbad, but it's gonna get worse.
MIC3 (11:24):
But she just didn't know whether
MIC2 (11:25):
laugh or cry and she was just in shock.
MIC3 (11:29):
We did laugh.
We actually laughed.
MIC2 (11:30):
Thanks so much.
You're such a good friend.
No, I have no solutions, butthis is gonna get worse.
I love it.
That is
MIC3 (11:39):
brutal reality from the best of friends.
That's your brutal reality.
MIC2 (11:43):
stuff.
Yeah.
You'll have to keep, you'll haveto subscribe if you wanna know
the full story.
MIC3 (11:49):
Lauren is very important too, and we need to hear about
her now.
And Lauren, stop deflecting.
You need to speak about yourselfnow.
MIC2 (11:57):
name's Lauren.
That's the L in TLC.
So my story's very differentbecause I married my high school
boyfriend.
The, we all went to school withhim.
We were all friends with him.
We all hung out.
I snagged him.
hung out with his older brother
MIC3 (12:11):
Yeah.
Yes.
one that I married was the Surfyand the footy player
MIC2 (12:18):
and the blonde.
And everybody wanted him.
And I got him
MIC3 (12:21):
and I still have him.
She's actually saying,
MIC2 (12:24):
Yes.
MIC3 (12:25):
true.
I
MIC2 (12:26):
I still have him.
How many years later?
We've been married 27.
I think we've been together like35 years.
That's crazy.
MIC3 (12:35):
On that 34 So
MIC2 (12:37):
married, quite young kids.
Quite young.
Really young.
Three kids.
And pretty much I think my lifewas my husband and my three kids
for about 20 years.
I've worked administration.
I've worked in kindergarten andschool and after school and
study, actually I did wanna be anurse.
So after my first son, Justyn, Ireally wanted to be a midwife.
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To study.
You couldn't do midwiferystraight, so I had to do
nursing, so I did that.
Got pregnant again, so Ideferred.
Hannah, middle went back foranother year, got pregnant
again,
MIC3 (13:14):
deferred.
MIC2 (13:16):
And then third one
MIC3 (13:17):
was born
MIC2 (13:18):
with, lots of medical complications.
So I spent that most of my lifein a hospital for a good five
years.
So that put me right off being anurse
MIC3 (13:27):
'cause I
MIC2 (13:27):
already spending way too much time in the hospital.
So I wasn't interested Beingthere to be there.
So my career changed towardseducation.
I don't know, I actually justfell into that through the kindy
that my kids went to.
And the afterschool care up theroad, somebody recommended me.
So I went there and I have beenthere for all up 20 years.
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Wow.
I reckon between the OSH and thekindy and the school, about 20
years.
I do wanna keep it brief, sothat's been ticking along
nicely.
Husband kids.
School studying.
And then just quickly, I knowwe're not gonna go into it, but
I don't know how many years ago,four-ish years ago when the C
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Word happened I was canceled bigtime because I was too scared to
take an experimental.
Drug and put poison into my bodythat I didn't know what was in
there effects were going to be.
I think I was very good at my
MIC3 (14:24):
job Bit lost.
Why were you scared?
Because you'd had a fluvaccination that made you sick.
Yeah, that's true
MIC2 (14:31):
So I've never, had a flu vaccine ever.
And then one year, 10 years ago,everybody in my workplace was
getting it and it was free andit encouraged.
And then I called, I kind of didget the vibe that if you don't
have it, and then you.
Turn around and take a heap oftime off work'cause you've got
the flu that's gonna be frownedupon.
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And I was very new to the job.
It was my first year, veryappreciative to have this
awesome job.
I still am.
I and so I just did it eventhink about it.
And yeah, of the worst decisionsI ever made.
'cause for years and years Isuffered, reactions to from,
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vision.
pins and needles, numbnesscysts, growing on my spine.
Restless leg syndrome.
I was diagnosed with viralneuritis.
So I took the vaccine in Aprilwhen everyone else did.
I've never had a flu in my life,actually.
I'm very healthy, very, I.
Very blessed with a good immunesystem, and I've never had a flu
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in my life.
And then in 2015, in April, whenI took the flu vaccine in 2015,
in August, I got the flu,horrendous flu.
It lasted eight weeks.
I still had it in October.
It was horrendous.
I've never had a flu vaccinesince, and I've never had the
flu since.
MIC3 (15:47):
So then going forward, so obviously you'd be very, very
cautious
MIC2 (15:52):
I have, I have fo um, a folder on me at the doctor
surgery about, and it, I neversaid it was a vaccine injury.
A physician told me.
It, I, it looks as though themost likely scenario here is
that when you took the fluvaccine,
MIC3 (16:07):
it got into your
MIC2 (16:07):
nervous system and attacked your nervous system.
It's documented
MIC3 (16:11):
an autoimmune
MIC2 (16:12):
disease.
It's very, very rare, but itdoes happen.
But, it would look as though youhave an autoimmune disease
because of the vaccine, and thatwas enough for me to never get a
flu
MIC3 (16:22):
vaccine ever again.
MIC2 (16:22):
I could never have foreseen what was coming, but
that was enough for me to say,okay, well I'll never get a flu
vaccine ever again, and I'vejust spent 10 years detoxing and
trying to then came the C Word,and so why would I take it after
what I'd been through?
Why would I take it?
And so I was no longer, work atthe kindergarten school in jobs
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that I love and have put myheart and soul into and
absolutely love.
And I wasn't allowed on site andnever had a sickie.
I never took
MIC3 (16:56):
off.
I don't take
MIC2 (16:57):
You still don't
MIC3 (16:58):
don't had sick.
I actually haven't had a
MIC2 (16:59):
sick day in 10 years and that, I swear to God, I haven't
had a sick day in 10 years.
I've used sick leave for my kidswhen they've been sick to stay
here and look after them, butI've never had a sick day in 10
years.
But I was so dangerous I wasn'tallowed on site'cause I was so
dangerous.
MIC3 (17:14):
So the healthiest
MIC2 (17:15):
person in the school, but you were a danger.
Was never a two way thing.
And
MIC3 (17:19):
I'm not just saying in my
MIC2 (17:20):
workplace, as I'm saying in my family,
MIC3 (17:22):
yeah, absolutely.
MIC2 (17:23):
holidays, friendship groups, it wasn't a two-way
mutual respect.
I think it all stems from fear.
That's what I was gonna say, onething, but one thing they don't
understand is as fearful of thedisease that they were, we were
as fearful, if not more of theexperimental jab, and our fear
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was never taken into account.
Exactly.
I know people say, oh, I meannow
MIC3 (17:48):
say,
MIC2 (17:48):
so scared I
MIC3 (17:49):
didn't, Or you
MIC2 (17:50):
were so brave to, I wasn't brave.
You were brave to go and getthat thing jabbed in your arm
because I was chicken.
I couldn't do it.
And maybe, and you do look asthough you're being selfish.
Like how can you have to do itto keep everyone safe?
And there were so many timeswhere I thought, oh my goodness,
I'm
MIC3 (18:07):
am I doing the right thing?
MIC2 (18:08):
was too scared.
I've had a bad reaction and Iwas too scared.
I just got myself back on
MIC3 (18:14):
track.
Yeah,
MIC2 (18:14):
years and years and years
MIC3 (18:16):
of course, being,
MIC2 (18:17):
having this toxic.
Thing in my body
MIC3 (18:19):
I'm a very, very, very
MIC2 (18:20):
different person now.
And I've been through a lot ofhard things in my life.
Which we'll talk about atanother time, but that was
actually the hardest thing
MIC3 (18:28):
I've ever been through.
MIC2 (18:28):
Because I've never been treated so badly.
How lucky am I, I've never beenin a minority group
MIC3 (18:36):
Or discriminated,
MIC2 (18:37):
you know,, i just have always seemed to be a pretty
average.
I'm not a amazing sport person,but I can play a bit of sport.
You know, I'm not a genius, butI'm not an idiot.
I think I've just cruisedthrough life, very average and
mediocre.
And all of a sudden I was inwhat I thought, it's not
actually true, but what Ithought was this real minority
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group and nobody wanted a bar ofme and I was like a piece of
dirt.
And I've never experienced sothat was really hard.
But where the doors that hasopened up is incredible.
I've had to rebuild myself.
I've had to self-reflect.
I've had to work out, oh, whoare actually my friends and who
aren't.
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What do I want with my life?
What are my beliefs?
What are my morals?
What can I learn from this?
So yeah, I've been on a wholenew journey for five years,
which has involved having my ownbusiness now and really delving
into the wellness world andhealth and fitness and organics
MIC3 (19:34):
I guess we are trying to introduce ourselves, we can't go
into it all tonight but how didwe get here?
How did we start a podcast?
We've had many journeys in ourlives and we've had things
happen the last couple of yearsI've moved back down here, the
girls,
MIC2 (19:54):
Tina.
MIC3 (19:55):
and Lauren, both here at sa.
We caught up often, me, Tina,Hilde, Lauren.
We had girls weekends and tryingto, we'd always try and
reconnect and so
MIC2 (20:07):
a really exciting girls weekend coming up.
Yes.
So
MIC3 (20:10):
and I were up north and the girls were down here.
i've moved back down here.
Lots has happened with all fourof us.
The three of us are here.
Hilds has had.
Journeys too.
And we fucking love.
We are getting this girl
MIC2 (20:26):
very
MIC3 (20:26):
excited.
Our podcast excited.
We are so excited.
Yes, she doesn't know yet, butshe's one of our star
MIC2 (20:32):
Absolutely.
MIC3 (20:33):
regulars
MIC2 (20:33):
get her on as a guest.
MIC3 (20:35):
And she's gonna be regular.
She just doesn't know it
MIC2 (20:37):
But anyway,
MIC3 (20:38):
we love this girl.
You need to, she's like fitness,health.
She's amazing.
Her journey's been
MIC2 (20:44):
epic as well.
On our next girls we can, wemight secretly
MIC3 (20:47):
everything.
We won't.
We'll totally let it know.
But anyway,
MIC2 (20:52):
I might,
MIC3 (20:52):
sorry.
Trying to wrap it up.
We are.
Trying to share a story and ifpeople resonate with us that's
our purpose.
We and you know what?
Some people might go, I agree.
Or that she don't wanna, wedon't care
MIC2 (21:12):
Dili Gaff, who?
MIC3 (21:13):
what's that?
Who
MIC2 (21:15):
Do I look like I give a fuck oh, But No, but
MIC3 (21:18):
you know what, if some people resonate and they wanna
listen to us, and you know what,we can help people in any way,
little way.
MIC2 (21:28):
It's actually more about helping
MIC3 (21:29):
Us.
Yeah.
It's actually more therapeuticfor us.
So, and
MIC2 (21:33):
we're all so different.
Even just that revisiting someof that and that's such a small
little
MIC3 (21:37):
Yeah.
Piece
MIC2 (21:38):
of our life, isn't it?
MIC3 (21:39):
absolutely.
Um, it's
MIC2 (21:40):
like, wow, we actually are so different.
But then we are also so similar.
Yeah.
MIC3 (21:45):
So I feel like
MIC2 (21:47):
particularly women, but whoever wants to listen.
They might get little bits ofeach of us.
Yeah.
That kind of resonates withthem.
It
MIC3 (21:54):
What have we got
MIC2 (21:54):
coming up?
What are some topics?
Let's give some people someinsight as to what's
MIC3 (22:01):
I I do think
MIC2 (22:01):
we need to put it out there.
So then they either keep tuningin or go, oh, no, thank you.
You're crazy.
Women.
Okay, what we can talk abouthomeschooling maybe.
Yes.
Homeschool versus mainstream.
Versus mainstream.
We're gonna talk about.
Okay.
I don't know.
You are always told, never talkabout politics or
MIC3 (22:22):
religion.
Oh, we have to talk about we,
MIC2 (22:24):
and religion, all
MIC3 (22:25):
know
MIC2 (22:25):
things that you're told not to talk about at maybe a
family dinner
MIC3 (22:30):
fucking talking about it all.
MIC2 (22:31):
There's a reason I'm not invited to those family dinners
anymore.
MIC3 (22:35):
Sorry But you know what?
MIC2 (22:37):
This is our family dinner.
We should have called thepodcast The Family Dinner.
MIC3 (22:41):
Let's wrap this up.
People need to listen to thisshit on the way to work in the
car
MIC2 (22:46):
That's another topic.
Going to work and trading timefor money, and it's the worst
exchange on the planet.
Okay, ready?
And this was TLC, Tina,
MIC3 (22:59):
Lauren, Cassie.
Woo.
The Life Chat.
Welcome to The Life Chat.
So backstory, we're gonnaintroduce ourselves for the
first episode'cause people needto know who the beep we are.
you can say
MIC2 (00:16):
that's you.
You're allowed to.
MIC3 (00:18):
that.
I do swear doesn't make me a badperson.
Apparently.
According to statistics, peoplethat swear are quite
intelligent.
MIC2 (00:30):
What does I say for you, Lauren?
She's not
MIC3 (00:31):
a dumb ass.
No, we love Loz.
She's just beautiful.
She doesn't swear, but we mayget her to drop an F-bomb at
some stage.
Alright.
Okay.
My name is Cassie.
I am the C in TLC, and we arecalled the Life Chat.
(00:52):
Get it.
TLC.
MIC2 (00:55):
We
MIC3 (00:55):
get it?
Okay.
I am normally the quiet one interms of I sit back a bit, the
girls talk a bit more than me.
Would you agree?
No.
Oh,
MIC2 (01:11):
Oh, I don't know what you mean.
No.
MIC3 (01:13):
Well, we'll listen to the test
MIC2 (01:16):
I'm being sarcastic.
We do talk more than her.
Really?
Oh, well you definitely do on aplane
MIC3 (01:21):
anyway.
Okay.
So
MIC2 (01:24):
she talks when it's good and she's got so good.
MIC3 (01:27):
I nominated my, alright.
Well see what I mean.
They're just, yeah, no onewanted to start.
Of the introduction, so I putmyself forward because normally
I don't, I sit back a littlebit, so I'm going
MIC2 (01:42):
Okay, go.
I'm proud of you.
MIC3 (01:46):
Backstory.
All right, let's start.
We all met when we were 13 yearsold.
Girls.
Yeah.
Year eight.
First year of high school.
School.
Oh, sorry.
yeah, 12.
Tina and Lauren A.
Little bit earlier.
Yeah.
Uh, what about HIlde?
No, Hilds year Yeah.
Year
MIC2 (02:01):
We all First day.
Year
MIC3 (02:03):
Yeah.
So Hilde.
Is another important piece ofthis puzzle.
There's four of us basicallythat have been besties since 13.
Yeah, so,
MIC2 (02:15):
and how old are we now?
Cassie,
MIC3 (02:19):
hooowee I am the old bag.
I actually am turning 50 thisyear.
Woo.
The girls are 49.
Still
MIC2 (02:28):
forties about to 49 now We are 48.
MIC3 (02:31):
Thank you very much.
I failed year two.
Alright, let's just get that outnow.
High
MIC2 (02:36):
did you What?
She said I failed
MIC3 (02:38):
you two.
Who the fuck fails to you two?
MIC2 (02:42):
were meant to intelligent because you swear.
Because she swear she startedswearing and
MIC3 (02:47):
then got intelligent.
Oh, okay.
MIC2 (02:49):
Hang on.
MIC3 (02:50):
Anyway.
MIC2 (02:51):
Doesn't matter.
We
MIC3 (02:52):
what?
MIC2 (02:53):
together.
It doesn't
MIC3 (02:53):
matter.
Best thing I ever did, because Iwas in the year that these girls
are, that have been my lifelongfriends, meant to be, meant to
be dumb ass, meant to be.
So it wasn't the most amazingupbringing, but there was lots,
sort of good points to it.
(03:15):
I had a marriage that failedvery early on.
I was very young.
I had a child, very young.
Best thing I ever did, by theway, love her.
She, oh my God, she's the bestthing that ever happened in my
life.
I was on my own for a little bitwith her.
Then I met my second husband whois.
(03:36):
Fucking amazing.
MIC2 (03:38):
and
MIC3 (03:38):
the best man.
I had two more children withhim.
We've spent 26 plus yearstogether.
Amazing.
We've been through trials andtribulations, both of us.
He was the father to my childthat I had with my first
marriage and was so amazing toher.
(04:01):
We've brought up three childrentogether.
We are no longer together.
That's a story in itself, but Ilove him.
We're good friends.
It's been difficult.
I have had some.
mental health issues and otherhealth issues over the time.
(04:23):
And right now I am in a verygood place.
We'll go into all the ins andouts of my life later on, But I
could also have not got to thispoint without these beautiful
women sitting right next to me.
We have been brought togetherright now in this place at this
(04:46):
time.
We decided to do a podcast alittle while ago.
These beautiful women will telltheir stories.
They have had trials andtribulation, adversity in their
life as we all have.
And now going forward, we arejust wanting to bring different
topics.
(05:06):
Our lives together and if we canhelp other people.
Fucking navigate this world,then that's what we need to do.
So I'm gonna hand over now toTina.
MIC2 (05:19):
Okay, so I am Tina, the T in TLC, Basically these girls
got me through high school.
I met my husband while he washere from Ireland on a, working
holiday visa.
And met him in a pub while I wasout with my ex-boyfriend and his
(05:41):
new girlfriend, who is now hiswife and mother of his children.
Oh.
And we are still friends.
MIC3 (05:46):
That's And
MIC2 (05:48):
Paul was treading on his toes in the pub and.
No put, no, sorry.
Wrong way around.
Steve was treading on myhusband's toes in the pub and
said oh, you should come andmeet my friend.
And that's where we met.
And then, two weeks later heasked me to marry him'cause his
MIC3 (06:04):
Visa
MIC2 (06:05):
running out and we are married nearly 20 years on.
That's great.
So yeah, and now we have abeautiful 12-year-old going on
21.
And she's the boss of the houseand the boss of me.
And I didn't think anyone wouldbe able to rule me, but she
MIC3 (06:25):
need either Tina.
Holy.
MIC2 (06:27):
Yeah.
She's so in charge of me.
It's not funny.
MIC3 (06:31):
Also you are super inspiring'cause you're an
entrepreneur, you have your ownbusiness.
We'll go into that more in depthlater on.
MIC2 (06:38):
Yes.
I had many jobs.
from gyprocking to.
Being a pilot to working inJapan a few different things.
MIC3 (06:49):
you tried to breeze over all of that Yeah, because we
never want to shine a light onYeah, this girl was amazing, so
MIC2 (06:58):
Aw.
MIC3 (06:58):
Just wanted to highlight that.
MIC2 (07:01):
So I met my husband after working on a cattle station.
We went to Queensland, flewplanes, come back to Adelaide.
I went and did naturopathy andended up.
Doing natural skincare now teasall into the natural health and
hate vaccines.
MIC3 (07:23):
She's totally my witchdoctor
MIC2 (07:24):
I've just the OmMade wellness hub as well.
Which I have joined.
And honestly, this is notbecause you're my friend, the
only skincare I use is yours andthe only herbal tea I drink are
yours.
And that's not because it's you
MIC3 (07:38):
obviously.
That's how I
MIC2 (07:40):
started it.
Yes.
MIC3 (07:42):
but I'm
MIC2 (07:42):
not staying with it because it's you.
I'm staying with it because it'samazing and it works.
MIC3 (07:47):
You know what?
It's
MIC2 (07:47):
funny'cause we don't do this.
No.
MIC3 (07:49):
we don't talk about ourselves ever.
No, we don't.
MIC2 (07:51):
together, we don't
MIC3 (07:52):
we talk about so many issues.
Yeah.
We do talk about.
Things that are happening.
MIC2 (07:58):
But to go back and try and work out, okay, who am I?
MIC3 (08:01):
What's
MIC2 (08:02):
story?
We've actually never done it.
But also we've gone our separateways throughout our lives as
well.
Like we may have met when wewere 12, 13.
Yeah.
But there are times there thatwe, you were doing our own thing
and a lot of the things we aregonna talk about each other
might not even know.
MIC3 (08:19):
that's right.
Absolutely.
MIC2 (08:21):
been best friends for over 30 years.
Yeah.
But there were chunks
MIC3 (08:25):
we missed,
MIC2 (08:25):
didn't see each
MIC3 (08:26):
other.
Yeah.
MIC2 (08:27):
And we are known for catching up when we are in a
really good place.
And then
MIC3 (08:34):
withdrawing,
MIC2 (08:35):
do you think?
And going a bit, yeah.
Because we don't wanna bother
MIC3 (08:38):
each other when we're in place.
Yeah, absolutely.
MIC2 (08:39):
are getting way, way
MIC3 (08:40):
better at that.
MIC2 (08:41):
Mm-hmm.
But I must say, when I've gonethrough my hardest times, I.
Tend to go
MIC3 (08:47):
retreat myself,
MIC2 (08:48):
so I don't really share.
So this is, we are not gonna
MIC3 (08:51):
do that from now on though.
No, we'll do that.
I think we've all done thatthrough the years.
MIC2 (08:54):
'Cause you think that, oh, they don't wanna know about
that.
They've got their own problems.
MIC3 (08:58):
Yeah.
And
MIC2 (08:59):
then of course once you say it, you can't take it back.
So then the next time you catchup, when you just wanna have a
good old fun laugh and pretendlike nothing's happening, it's
like, oh,
MIC3 (09:08):
because they know.
But yeah, that's part of it'sbest friends, isn't it?
It is.
That's right.
And that's what we've had, we'velearned now we're sisters.
Like
MIC2 (09:17):
we are sisters.
We just, we
MIC3 (09:19):
tell all the stuff and the bullshit and the, if we're
having a shit time or whatever,it's not like I.
Want you to fix it or take theburden on, I just wanna tell you
just need to know and a problemshared is a problem halved it.
It's just someone listening,someone that cares.
And you just need to.
(09:41):
Vent or whatever, and we'velearned that now.
I think that's part of maturingtoo.
We've all got our own lives.
We all have our problems.
We don't wanna burden anyone.
We all, we realize that now wecan just say it.
We say it feels good's true.
Have a couple of drinks maybe,or a cry, or not even a cry.
(10:04):
Just laugh.
We have very dark humorsometimes.
MIC2 (10:08):
I think it's a really important point about not
wanting a solution.
But with us, we don't.
We're not always coming up witha solution.
MIC3 (10:17):
Often we don't even offer it.
We go, just a hug.
MIC2 (10:20):
just a hug.
MIC3 (10:21):
We just go, oh, that's really fucked up.
Sorry.
That's bad.
Yeah,
MIC2 (10:26):
Before it gets better.
MIC3 (10:27):
my, Oh, you think this is
MIC2 (10:31):
bad day?
Or you wait?
The bad days are still coming.
Hang on.
Can you just explain what you'retalking about?
She a really, really, really badday.
A really bad day.
It was a really, really bad day.
It
MIC3 (10:43):
a shit
MIC2 (10:44):
day.
The day before was scary.
For us both.
And then that day I think wewere like, oh my gosh, we can't
do this by ourself.
We need Tina.
MIC3 (10:55):
And
MIC2 (10:56):
we like, right, let's go see Tina.
Maybe we can do it.
The three of us can do it.
And we're driving down thefreeway and it's, it's kind of a
blur now.
Like it was a bit surreal,wasn't And then you were telling
me worst day of my life and Iwas sort of foreseeing some
stuff that you're gonna have todeal with and I just turn around
(11:18):
and look at you and go, it isbad, but it's gonna get worse.
MIC3 (11:24):
But she just didn't know whether
MIC2 (11:25):
laugh or cry and she was just in shock.
MIC3 (11:29):
We did laugh.
We actually laughed.
MIC2 (11:30):
Thanks so much.
You're such a good friend.
No, I have no solutions, butthis is gonna get worse.
I love it.
That is
MIC3 (11:39):
brutal reality from the best of friends.
That's your brutal reality.
MIC2 (11:43):
stuff.
Yeah.
You'll have to keep, you'll haveto subscribe if you wanna know
the full story.
MIC3 (11:49):
Lauren is very important too, and we need to hear about
her now.
And Lauren, stop deflecting.
You need to speak about yourselfnow.
MIC2 (11:57):
name's Lauren.
That's the L in TLC.
So my story's very differentbecause I married my high school
boyfriend.
The, we all went to school withhim.
We were all friends with him.
We all hung out.
I snagged him.
hung out with his older brother
MIC3 (12:11):
Yeah.
Yes.
one that I married was the Surfyand the footy player
MIC2 (12:18):
and the blonde.
And everybody wanted him.
And I got him
MIC3 (12:21):
and I still have him.
She's actually saying,
MIC2 (12:24):
Yes.
MIC3 (12:25):
true.
I
MIC2 (12:26):
I still have him.
How many years later?
We've been married 27.
I think we've been together like35 years.
That's crazy.
MIC3 (12:35):
On that 34 So
MIC2 (12:37):
married, quite young kids.
Quite young.
Really young.
Three kids.
And pretty much I think my lifewas my husband and my three kids
for about 20 years.
I've worked administration.
I've worked in kindergarten andschool and after school and
study, actually I did wanna be anurse.
So after my first son, Justyn, Ireally wanted to be a midwife.
(12:59):
To study.
You couldn't do midwiferystraight, so I had to do
nursing, so I did that.
Got pregnant again, so Ideferred.
Hannah, middle went back foranother year, got pregnant
again,
MIC3 (13:14):
deferred.
MIC2 (13:16):
And then third one
MIC3 (13:17):
was born
MIC2 (13:18):
with, lots of medical complications.
So I spent that most of my lifein a hospital for a good five
years.
So that put me right off being anurse
MIC3 (13:27):
'cause I
MIC2 (13:27):
already spending way too much time in the hospital.
So I wasn't interested Beingthere to be there.
So my career changed towardseducation.
I don't know, I actually justfell into that through the kindy
that my kids went to.
And the afterschool care up theroad, somebody recommended me.
So I went there and I have beenthere for all up 20 years.
(13:49):
Wow.
I reckon between the OSH and thekindy and the school, about 20
years.
I do wanna keep it brief, sothat's been ticking along
nicely.
Husband kids.
School studying.
And then just quickly, I knowwe're not gonna go into it, but
I don't know how many years ago,four-ish years ago when the C
(14:10):
Word happened I was canceled bigtime because I was too scared to
take an experimental.
Drug and put poison into my bodythat I didn't know what was in
there effects were going to be.
I think I was very good at my
MIC3 (14:24):
job Bit lost.
Why were you scared?
Because you'd had a fluvaccination that made you sick.
Yeah, that's true
MIC2 (14:31):
So I've never, had a flu vaccine ever.
And then one year, 10 years ago,everybody in my workplace was
getting it and it was free andit encouraged.
And then I called, I kind of didget the vibe that if you don't
have it, and then you.
Turn around and take a heap oftime off work'cause you've got
the flu that's gonna be frownedupon.
(14:51):
And I was very new to the job.
It was my first year, veryappreciative to have this
awesome job.
I still am.
I and so I just did it eventhink about it.
And yeah, of the worst decisionsI ever made.
'cause for years and years Isuffered, reactions to from,
(15:11):
vision.
pins and needles, numbnesscysts, growing on my spine.
Restless leg syndrome.
I was diagnosed with viralneuritis.
So I took the vaccine in Aprilwhen everyone else did.
I've never had a flu in my life,actually.
I'm very healthy, very, I.
Very blessed with a good immunesystem, and I've never had a flu
(15:32):
in my life.
And then in 2015, in April, whenI took the flu vaccine in 2015,
in August, I got the flu,horrendous flu.
It lasted eight weeks.
I still had it in October.
It was horrendous.
I've never had a flu vaccinesince, and I've never had the
flu since.
MIC3 (15:47):
So then going forward, so obviously you'd be very, very
cautious
MIC2 (15:52):
I have, I have fo um, a folder on me at the doctor
surgery about, and it, I neversaid it was a vaccine injury.
A physician told me.
It, I, it looks as though themost likely scenario here is
that when you took the fluvaccine,
MIC3 (16:07):
it got into your
MIC2 (16:07):
nervous system and attacked your nervous system.
It's documented
MIC3 (16:11):
an autoimmune
MIC2 (16:12):
disease.
It's very, very rare, but itdoes happen.
But, it would look as though youhave an autoimmune disease
because of the vaccine, and thatwas enough for me to never get a
flu
MIC3 (16:22):
vaccine ever again.
MIC2 (16:22):
I could never have foreseen what was coming, but
that was enough for me to say,okay, well I'll never get a flu
vaccine ever again, and I'vejust spent 10 years detoxing and
trying to then came the C Word,and so why would I take it after
what I'd been through?
Why would I take it?
And so I was no longer, work atthe kindergarten school in jobs
(16:47):
that I love and have put myheart and soul into and
absolutely love.
And I wasn't allowed on site andnever had a sickie.
I never took
MIC3 (16:56):
off.
I don't take
MIC2 (16:57):
You still don't
MIC3 (16:58):
don't had sick.
I actually haven't had a
MIC2 (16:59):
sick day in 10 years and that, I swear to God, I haven't
had a sick day in 10 years.
I've used sick leave for my kidswhen they've been sick to stay
here and look after them, butI've never had a sick day in 10
years.
But I was so dangerous I wasn'tallowed on site'cause I was so
dangerous.
MIC3 (17:14):
So the healthiest
MIC2 (17:15):
person in the school, but you were a danger.
Was never a two way thing.
And
MIC3 (17:19):
I'm not just saying in my
MIC2 (17:20):
workplace, as I'm saying in my family,
MIC3 (17:22):
yeah, absolutely.
MIC2 (17:23):
holidays, friendship groups, it wasn't a two-way
mutual respect.
I think it all stems from fear.
That's what I was gonna say, onething, but one thing they don't
understand is as fearful of thedisease that they were, we were
as fearful, if not more of theexperimental jab, and our fear
(17:44):
was never taken into account.
Exactly.
I know people say, oh, I meannow
MIC3 (17:48):
say,
MIC2 (17:48):
so scared I
MIC3 (17:49):
didn't, Or you
MIC2 (17:50):
were so brave to, I wasn't brave.
You were brave to go and getthat thing jabbed in your arm
because I was chicken.
I couldn't do it.
And maybe, and you do look asthough you're being selfish.
Like how can you have to do itto keep everyone safe?
And there were so many timeswhere I thought, oh my goodness,
I'm
MIC3 (18:07):
am I doing the right thing?
MIC2 (18:08):
was too scared.
I've had a bad reaction and Iwas too scared.
I just got myself back on
MIC3 (18:14):
track.
Yeah,
MIC2 (18:14):
years and years and years
MIC3 (18:16):
of course, being,
MIC2 (18:17):
having this toxic.
Thing in my body
MIC3 (18:19):
I'm a very, very, very
MIC2 (18:20):
different person now.
And I've been through a lot ofhard things in my life.
Which we'll talk about atanother time, but that was
actually the hardest thing
MIC3 (18:28):
I've ever been through.
MIC2 (18:28):
Because I've never been treated so badly.
How lucky am I, I've never beenin a minority group
MIC3 (18:36):
Or discriminated,
MIC2 (18:37):
you know,, i just have always seemed to be a pretty
average.
I'm not a amazing sport person,but I can play a bit of sport.
You know, I'm not a genius, butI'm not an idiot.
I think I've just cruisedthrough life, very average and
mediocre.
And all of a sudden I was inwhat I thought, it's not
actually true, but what Ithought was this real minority
(18:57):
group and nobody wanted a bar ofme and I was like a piece of
dirt.
And I've never experienced sothat was really hard.
But where the doors that hasopened up is incredible.
I've had to rebuild myself.
I've had to self-reflect.
I've had to work out, oh, whoare actually my friends and who
aren't.
(19:18):
What do I want with my life?
What are my beliefs?
What are my morals?
What can I learn from this?
So yeah, I've been on a wholenew journey for five years,
which has involved having my ownbusiness now and really delving
into the wellness world andhealth and fitness and organics
MIC3 (19:34):
I guess we are trying to introduce ourselves, we can't go
into it all tonight but how didwe get here?
How did we start a podcast?
We've had many journeys in ourlives and we've had things
happen the last couple of yearsI've moved back down here, the
girls,
MIC2 (19:54):
Tina.
MIC3 (19:55):
and Lauren, both here at sa.
We caught up often, me, Tina,Hilde, Lauren.
We had girls weekends and tryingto, we'd always try and
reconnect and so
MIC2 (20:07):
a really exciting girls weekend coming up.
Yes.
So
MIC3 (20:10):
and I were up north and the girls were down here.
i've moved back down here.
Lots has happened with all fourof us.
The three of us are here.
Hilds has had.
Journeys too.
And we fucking love.
We are getting this girl
MIC2 (20:26):
very
MIC3 (20:26):
excited.
Our podcast excited.
We are so excited.
Yes, she doesn't know yet, butshe's one of our star
MIC2 (20:32):
Absolutely.
MIC3 (20:33):
regulars
MIC2 (20:33):
get her on as a guest.
MIC3 (20:35):
And she's gonna be regular.
She just doesn't know it
MIC2 (20:37):
But anyway,
MIC3 (20:38):
we love this girl.
You need to, she's like fitness,health.
She's amazing.
Her journey's been
MIC2 (20:44):
epic as well.
On our next girls we can, wemight secretly
MIC3 (20:47):
everything.
We won't.
We'll totally let it know.
But anyway,
MIC2 (20:52):
I might,
MIC3 (20:52):
sorry.
Trying to wrap it up.
We are.
Trying to share a story and ifpeople resonate with us that's
our purpose.
We and you know what?
Some people might go, I agree.
Or that she don't wanna, wedon't care
MIC2 (21:12):
Dili Gaff, who?
MIC3 (21:13):
what's that?
Who
MIC2 (21:15):
Do I look like I give a fuck oh, But No, but
MIC3 (21:18):
you know what, if some people resonate and they wanna
listen to us, and you know what,we can help people in any way,
little way.
MIC2 (21:28):
It's actually more about helping
MIC3 (21:29):
Us.
Yeah.
It's actually more therapeuticfor us.
So, and
MIC2 (21:33):
we're all so different.
Even just that revisiting someof that and that's such a small
little
MIC3 (21:37):
Yeah.
Piece
MIC2 (21:38):
of our life, isn't it?
MIC3 (21:39):
absolutely.
Um, it's
MIC2 (21:40):
like, wow, we actually are so different.
But then we are also so similar.
Yeah.
MIC3 (21:45):
So I feel like
MIC2 (21:47):
particularly women, but whoever wants to listen.
They might get little bits ofeach of us.
Yeah.
That kind of resonates withthem.
It
MIC3 (21:54):
What have we got
MIC2 (21:54):
coming up?
What are some topics?
Let's give some people someinsight as to what's
MIC3 (22:01):
I I do think
MIC2 (22:01):
we need to put it out there.
So then they either keep tuningin or go, oh, no, thank you.
You're crazy.
Women.
Okay, what we can talk abouthomeschooling maybe.
Yes.
Homeschool versus mainstream.
Versus mainstream.
We're gonna talk about.
Okay.
I don't know.
You are always told, never talkabout politics or
MIC3 (22:22):
religion.
Oh, we have to talk about we,
MIC2 (22:24):
and religion, all
MIC3 (22:25):
know
MIC2 (22:25):
things that you're told not to talk about at maybe a
family dinner
MIC3 (22:30):
fucking talking about it all.
MIC2 (22:31):
There's a reason I'm not invited to those family dinners
anymore.
MIC3 (22:35):
Sorry But you know what?
MIC2 (22:37):
This is our family dinner.
We should have called thepodcast The Family Dinner.
MIC3 (22:41):
Let's wrap this up.
People need to listen to thisshit on the way to work in the
car
MIC2 (22:46):
That's another topic.
Going to work and trading timefor money, and it's the worst
exchange on the planet.
Okay, ready?
And this was TLC, Tina,
MIC3 (22:59):
Lauren, Cassie.
Woo.
The Life Chat.
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