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September 12, 2025 25 mins

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This episode was recorded some time ago, but it now carries even deeper meaning in light of the tragic news of Charlie Kirk’s murder yesterday. 

In this episode, we dive into why so many of us are running on empty right now. From all the mixed messages about health and politics to the everyday pressure of just keeping up, it’s no wonder we’re all feeling overwhelmed. Add in the constant scroll of tech and news, and it’s a recipe for total brain-fry.

We share some honest stories from the past few years, including how COVID messed with our sense of trust (in ourselves, in the world, and definitely in the government). We also unpack the wild world of misinformation, and why it’s so important to tune out the noise and choose what we let into our brains.

There’s a bit of a reality check in here but also a heap of hope. Because if we’ve learned anything, it’s that we’re all more resilient than we realise.

This episode is dedicated to the memory of Charlie Kirk, in honour of his voice in the fight for free speech. Rest in Peace Charlie. You'll be truly missed across the world. 



00:00 The Overwhelming Noise of Modern Life
02:32 The Purpose of Our Discussions
04:39 Questioning Beliefs and Opinions
08:17 Media Influence and Personal Well-being
13:21 Conspiracy Theories and Their Evolution
14:29 The Aussie Way and Government Distrust
14:52 COVID-19 and Public Compliance
17:53 Optimism for the Future
20:54 The Role of Intuition and Personal Experience
22:08 Building Strength Through Adversity
23:59 Final Thoughts and Dedication

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MIC3 (00:00):
So basically,

MIC2 (00:01):
I think we've got to a point in time in society where
everyone is.
Just fucking tired ofeverything.
We don't know.
We are being told, take this,don't take that, do this.
Don't do that.
Um.
Is Trump good?
No Trump's bad.
Is pharmaceuticals good?

(00:24):
Oh, no, it's not good.
Oh, take herbs be a homesteader.
Seriously, like I feel like momsare momming and going to work
running businesses.
Dads are, trying to provide,they're stressed out.
They, trying to make sure theirwives are right, the kids are

(00:44):
right, do their thing.
Everyone is literally stretched,life in itself is fast-paced.
We're all got this little tinyfricking contraction in our
hand.

MIC3 (00:59):
That's like

MIC1 (01:00):
A

MIC2 (01:00):
24 7.
We are, answerable.
People are text me, why mefucking text me back.
You, there's emails, there's somuch noise.
You are driving in the car andyou connect to your phone, to
your freaking car.
Even you can't just drive towork without being contactable
because everyone's like, oh no,I know you have Bluetooth.

(01:23):
can send you a message.
Oh, you saw it.

MIC3 (01:28):
Sorry.

MIC2 (01:28):
But you know, like it's stressful.
We are in our wits end.
We.
Uh, humans have never been underso much pressure from society,
from technology, from everywhich way, but loose.
There's so much, as Lauren wassaying, there's so much

(01:50):
information on the internet.
Facebook, Instagram.
Uh, every platform, thisperson's saying that.
And you go, oh yeah, that makessense.
And then you see someone elsesaying the opposite, oh shit,
that makes sense.

MIC3 (02:02):
You say, how do you know?
Which way do you go?
So many times, do you go to,like, you were trying to talk to
someone about something like wejust did it before, right?
That with the, um, the videothat you shared?
Yeah.
And it's like, oh, where did Ishare it?
It could be Messenger, it couldbe email, be text, could be
Instagram, could be.
Like there's literally that manyways

MIC2 (02:22):
contacting someone.
Yeah.
Yeah.

MIC3 (02:24):
don't even know where you've sent something.

MIC2 (02:26):
someone.
Yeah, absolutely.
And I don't even like social

MIC3 (02:29):
It's total overwhelm.

MIC2 (02:32):
I guess this is one of the reasons why we even started
this.
To touch on many subjects.
Some people are gonna agree,some people are not.
Some people are going, oh yeah,maybe that makes sense.
And other people are like, oh,that makes no sense at all.
It doesn't matter.
We are just talking aboutsubjects that people may or may

(02:52):
not resonate with, or, I arejust so fucking confused.
If we can shine a light on somesubjects and down the track.
We want to get experts in aswell as we are not experts on,
well,

MIC3 (03:07):
Speak for yourself.

MIC2 (03:08):
yeah, actually I was, not to say Tina's an expert in
skincare.

MIC3 (03:12):
I was joking.
I was joking.
I'm an expert on nothing.
I know I'm passionate aboutcertain topics, but I'm an
expert on nothing.
What I'm saying though,

MIC2 (03:20):
We are just coming from a place of, we are just
researching, this is what we'vefound, this is what we've
experienced, and we want peopleto go, oh, thank God someone's
talking about it.
And, and if we can help peoplenavigate this whole matrix or as
my kids say, simulation.

MIC3 (03:42):
Oh, do they?
We say matrix.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
We say matrix.
We're all about matrix,

MIC2 (03:47):
Whatever that is

MIC3 (03:48):
but what do we do about it?
This is the thing, because thereis so much information out
there, and if we're adding tothat information over, we are,
but we could be adding the wronginformation.
This is just our opinion.

MIC2 (04:00):
talk about it, we look into it, we shed light on it.
And collectively as a humanrace, we ask questions and we
are not just gonna believe whatwe are fed anymore or,

MIC3 (04:11):
or, and create boundaries.
Absolutely.
You know, um, actually I'm ahuge fan of Tony Robbins.
He says, don't let theinformation find you.
You seek the information yourequire.
Mm-hmm.
So don't wake up in the morningand look at your phone and
whatever news or whatevernotifications are there, wake up

(04:32):
and be.
Like intentional mm-hmm.
About what you say.
Oh, that's good advice.
Mm.
Yeah.
But you could, if you arepassionate about something, like
there's many topics I am, sayI'll research the ones that, Um,
confirm my, what I'm thinking.
I won't go researching thethings that I don't agree with.

(04:54):
Echo chamber.
Yeah.
So, and I could be wrong.
I could be wrong, but I'm notgonna go researching something.
I don't, I'm pretty much rightabout everything.
No, no.
Because I am the biggest backflipper too.
Like there's things that I wasso passionate about and was one
eye about only a few years ago.
Several things that I've.

(05:16):
Now back flipped on.
Well that means that you are notsomeone that just researches
what you believe in you, notsomeone who lives lives in echo
chambers.
Maybe I'm not.
And you can actually get variedopinions.
Yeah.
And then reassess where you comefrom.
Yeah.
So maybe I do, our episode was aperfect example.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Home.

MIC2 (05:34):
And you know what, that's what I love about us girls.
'cause we make each other thinklike Tina, remember years ago
when I said about Trump?
And you like,

MIC3 (05:43):
Oh, I remember.
Oh, sorry.
We were shocked.
We were shocked.

MIC2 (05:47):
were almost

MIC3 (05:48):
You were almost like you were a Trumpy and we, I was, my
jaw dropped.
Having said that, my husband wasalready a Trumpy and I was Was
he?
Yeah, he was.
Oh, I didn't know that.
He was from day one and then,but I didn't listen to him.

MIC2 (06:00):
he

MIC1 (06:01):
It wasn't

MIC3 (06:02):
until my be

MIC1 (06:04):
said it

MIC2 (06:04):
and I was like.

MIC3 (06:06):
Okay, well, I respect her opinion, and so if she's on this
path, then maybe I need toactually have a think about it.
I was just shocked.
Absolutely shocked.
And she just dropped that bombshell and went bed.
It

MIC2 (06:18):
Yeah.

MIC3 (06:19):
we sat there like, did she just say that?
Yeah.
She doesn't like Obama and shelikes Trump.
And we were just like, and whathave we learned

MIC2 (06:28):
since?
Oh, my, I would,

MIC3 (06:30):
again, I don't have a.
Strong opinion on that sort ofstuff.
I'm not a Trumpy or I'm not nota Trumpy.

MIC2 (06:38):
sense?

MIC3 (06:38):
Yeah, totally.
I don't know enough about it tohave an opinion about it at all.
Yeah, fair and

MIC2 (06:42):
not saying he's the be all end all, I'm just saying out of
every one that's,

MIC3 (06:48):
but you got us thinking

MIC2 (06:49):
Yeah.
Yeah.
He's not perfect.
No, he is not.
Neither am I.
No, no one.

MIC3 (06:54):
Oh, no one is the general

MIC2 (06:56):
concept of him and there's so much misinformation, fake
media, all that stuff.
Um, if you look into him and,and the trueness of what he's
trying to achieve, just skip allthe bullshit and the fake media.
He, the, the man's.

MIC3 (07:15):
He's got some really good morals and some of his things
and his beliefs and thingsreally, do I align with mine?
I think he's a bit of a lunatic,but I think you have to be Yeah.
To do that job, to put yourselfon the line like that.
Mm-hmm.
You know, he, he doesn't have todo that.
No, he doesn't.

MIC3-1 (07:31):
Oh, we just had a little private joke.
We can, we cannot share.
So, and anyway, I don't know howwe got onto Trump.
I think it was because, um Ohyeah, because you might have
believed one thing and webelieve another, but then we
might change, we might do acomplete switch.
We might, you

MIC2-1 (07:47):
know what?
If

MIC3-1 (07:48):
what?
Research,

MIC2-1 (07:48):
I may even get proof wrong down the track, I don't
know.
But isn't the whole point tojust.

MIC3-1 (07:55):
Well, you're

MIC2-1 (07:56):
You look into different things when I, the same as
Lauren was saying before, I'vethought one thing and thought
strongly about it and whatever,and through my journey of
different things, I've learnedto stand back now and just go,
you know what?
Oh, I'm gonna question shit.
I don't believe everything I'mtold.

(08:16):
We need to ask

MIC3-1 (08:17):
proud to admit that they were wrong, the whole last five
years was a perfect example ofthat.
Mm-hmm.
Proof in their face.
Mm-hmm.
And yet we'll dig their heels ineven harder.
Yeah.

MIC2-1 (08:33):
And do you know what I've done?
And it's the best thing I'veever done.
I mean there's a lot to thebackground of everything in
terms of what's happened to mein the last couple of years.
But I took myself out of sort ofeverything, put myself in a cave
to a, to a certain degree, um,'cause I was re rebuilding my
life and a lot was going on, butI.

(08:55):
Didn't watch mainstream media.
Yeah, I didn't watch mainstreamshows.
I didn't even rego, I, I wouldnot have known people told me,
oh, what about what happened inThailand?
I'm like, what happened inThailand?

MIC3-1 (09:10):
Mm.
I'm the same

MIC2-1 (09:11):
I had to take myself out of everything.
I took myself out of theprogramming and the things
that's put in front of usconstantly to sort of create a
narrative and brainwash us to adegree.
Then I could open up andactually just look at the things
and question things.

(09:31):
That were raw and out thereinstead of media and shows and
programming and all that stuff.
That really opens your mind.

MIC3-1 (09:42):
that's, you did exactly what Tony me says to do.
Yeah.
You stopped allowing the news tofind you and you

MIC2-1 (09:48):
saw out the news.
Absolutely.

MIC3-1 (09:50):
So you just blocked Which I mean, oh my God, how
many people say, oh, I saw it ontoday.
Tonight.
Oh, it must be true.
I saw it on the news.
Yeah, read it in the newspaper.
Must be true.
Yeah.
I just don't understand thatevery night sitting down and
watching the news, or every dayreading the paper, it's
horrible.
Yeah.
Why would you put yourselfthrough that?
No, you gotta

MIC2-1 (10:11):
protect yourself.
I can't that shit.
I'm a very down, yeah.
I actually am a very empatheticperson that shit breaks me.

MIC3-1 (10:19):
And you can't do anything about it.
If there was something we coulddo to help, we would, but if we
can't do anything about it, whywatch it your

MIC2-1 (10:26):
Absolutely, the thing that I can do is protect my
energy and just.
Do what I can do in little waysin, in terms of my mental health
and looking after myself.
So I'm there for my kids and myfriends and being kind to others
and all those sorts of things.
It, it all the other stuff.

(10:47):
If I was watching it, itdepleted me.
It made me sad.
It even made me feel like, whythe fuck am I in this fucked up
world?
Like what's the point?
And that's a

MIC3-1 (10:58):
a terrible mentality.
The sad thing is a lot of thatmainstream media stuff is
filtering in through Instagramand TikTok and the kids seeing
it as well.
They don't have to sit there andwatch the news to know that some
kid got ran over a Yeah,because, you know what I mean?
Like it's, when we were kids,you just turn the TV off, or if
your parents didn't want you toknow it, you just turn the TV

(11:20):
off.
But we can't stop it now.
It's everywhere.

MIC2-1 (11:22):
but remember there was like maybe.
Five, 10 minutes of bad shit atthe beginning of the news.
And then they had lovely

MIC3-1 (11:29):
They did.

MIC2-1 (11:30):
And they had all these little features and and

MIC3-1 (11:32):
when people got up and went, made a cup of tea though,
they said,'cause no one wants toknow that.
But I used to like it.
There was always a good newsstory, wasn't there?
Good news.
Oh, totally.

MIC2-1 (11:41):
Oh, totally.
Now it's

MIC3-1 (11:42):
there is a lot of good news stories.
There is so many good thingshappening in the world.
So many, but we don't hear aboutit, and we don't celebrate it.
We don't care about it.
It's all the doom stuff, butthere's so much great stuff

MIC2-1 (11:54):
why?
'cause they're trying to keep usstressed out, sick, unhealthy.

MIC3-1 (11:58):
it lower, it lowers our vibration, it lowers our energy,
it keeps us sick, it

MIC2-1 (12:03):
keeps us

MIC3-1 (12:05):
keeps us chained to So everyone needs to turn the news
off and not buy the papers news.
Yeah.

MIC2-1 (12:12):
thing.
Seriously.
Best thing I've ever

MIC3-1 (12:15):
I mean, when we get, I think this is why we have such a
good time when we get together,because we.
We never even turn the TV on.
We never sit watch tv.
We never do.

MIC2-1 (12:22):
we don't talk

MIC3-1 (12:23):
that.
We just, and we don't talk aboutwhat we saw on the news.
'cause none of us watch it.
We don't like, I didn't evenknow the Pope died.
I was like, two weeks later,someone told me the Pope died.
I'm like, oh, I did not hearthat.
I didn't know that.
I know I'm a Christian.
Well, he's a Catholic.
Same, same, same.
But yeah.
Well, no.
But yes, well, the Christiansaren't so into the Pope, like

(12:45):
the Catholics I mean, we believein the Pope.
He was a real man.
Yeah.
Like,

MIC1-1 (12:50):
not a freaking apparition,

MIC2-1 (12:52):
so that's a, it wasn't a thing.
Yeah.
So I didn't know that.
Loz and I both got brought up.
Very

MIC3-1 (12:58):
Yeah, very Christian and not talking about the Pope ever.

MIC2-1 (13:02):
Yeah, that's right.
I know

MIC3-1 (13:03):
that.
Christians didn't have Pope inthere.
There.
No, that's Catholic.
So interesting.
Yeah.
That even, yeah, which I wasbrought up neither.
I know.

MIC2-1 (13:11):
Yeah, that's right.

MIC3-1 (13:12):
Yeah, that's right.
That's true.
Don't We will do it.
We will do it.
A whole episode on that

MIC2-1 (13:18):
And the Vatican, well, that's another episode.

MIC3-1 (13:20):
Yeah.
You the, uh, elites

MIC1-1 (13:22):
run the world?

MIC2-1 (13:23):
Yeah.
Yeah, that's right.
Yeah.

MIC3-1 (13:26):
Oh, you crazy conspiracy

MIC1-1 (13:27):
Oh my God.

MIC3-1 (13:30):
Theories.

MIC1-1 (13:30):
until it becomes fact.

MIC3-1 (13:33):
questions, actually.
Conspiracy like people think,like the word conspiracy is
being made out to be such adirty word now, but people have
been conspiring to do bad in theworld since the dawn of time.
Yeah.
A conspiracy is peopleconspiring, but it's taken on a
different meaning.

(13:54):
Yeah.
We are not like that.
Right.
So to be a conspiracy theorist.
Well, we do have a theory thatsome evil bastards are
conspiring to do a certain thingto humanity.
Mm-hmm.
So therefore, yes, I am a proudconspiracy theorist.
I am proud too, and science isbased on theory, so don't tell

(14:14):
me to follow the sciencebecause.
That's based on theory.
Mm.
And the theory is that there areconspiring evil fuckers out
there, and that's her theory.
So anyway.
Next,

MIC2-1 (14:25):
next, but

MIC3-1 (14:28):
tell us what you really think.

MIC2-1 (14:29):
but do you know what I love?
And I've said this before andI'll say it again.
Do you know what was veryhilarious to me?
Pre COVID.
What would happen?
You'd have a good Aussiebarbecue.
Everyone sits around with theirbeers.
Oh, they're, fucking government.
They're all out to screw usover.
Yes.

MIC3-1 (14:48):
Yes.
Across And they

MIC2-1 (14:51):
tell us bullshit.
And then COVID came in.
oh, the government is telling usdidn't

MIC3-1 (14:59):
do, do what they say.

MIC2-1 (15:00):
and get.
And everyone's got, oh, no, no.
The the government's saying thatwe, we better do what the

MIC3-1 (15:07):
That's true, serious.
Everyone used to hate thegovernment.

MIC2-1 (15:10):
you

MIC3-1 (15:11):
And if you don't believe in them, well, you're a
conspiracy theorist.
Well, hang on.

MIC2-1 (15:14):
better.
Yeah.

MIC3-1 (15:15):
You were all conspiracy theorist in that back barbecue
five years ago.

MIC2-1 (15:18):
hang on.
The Aussie Way

MIC3-1 (15:20):
was like,

MIC2-1 (15:20):
like, you watch all the clip and they're like.
Oh yeah.
And the good Aussie way.
We, we just do it the back ourway.
We

MIC3-1 (15:28):
ler.
We come each

MIC2-1 (15:28):
other's backs.
We, we stand up for what webelieve in government, this and
that, and da da da.
And then this came in andsuddenly

MIC3-1 (15:39):
we

MIC2-1 (15:39):
everyone, we stabbed

MIC3-1 (15:39):
each other's backs.
crazy time.
Suddenly.
Yep.

MIC2-1 (15:44):
We've always questioned it.
This is the Aussie way.
We're going, this is not okay.
They're negating our rights.
They bring in laws that wedidn't know about under our
noses without us voting.
And then we are told we areconspiracy theorists and.
Don't believe them and shun themand persecute them.
And like Lauren, you can't go towork where, when, where is the

(16:08):
Aussieness we used to, um.
We just admire that we all hadour own perspectives, but we all
stood shoulder to shoulder ourgrandfathers and Nanas and, and
whatever went to war.
And they fought for this countryfor our right, for our freedom,
for our rights to say, you knowwhat, mate?

(16:30):
I might not do what you do, butI stand with

MIC3-1 (16:33):
you.
Yeah.
It's a common enemy.

MIC2-1 (16:35):
all this shit and now we are all fighting with each other
and this one's going believeeverything they say.
And we are saying maybe not andbut we are going.
It's okay if you disagree, butlet's just have our freedom as
Aussies to go.
You know what?

MIC3-1 (16:54):
It's okay to disagree.
It's okay to disagree.
Agree to disagree.
It's okay.
And

MIC2-1 (16:58):
so many subjects.
That are taboo or whatever, andif you stand up and say
something, you're a nutcase oryou're a hippie, or you're a
anti miner, or

MIC3-1 (17:11):
on purpose.

MIC2-1 (17:11):
whatever.
Yeah.
To, so,

MIC3-1 (17:12):
know, at the very beginning of COVID, Harvard
University did a study on howbest to get people to

MIC2-1 (17:19):
conquer and divide.

MIC3-1 (17:20):
Yeah.
And it was guilt dividingcongress.
No.
Guilt was the number one thatcome out of the study.
Oh, right.
Guilt people.
Yeah.
Into compliance.
Ah.
And if you look through thewhole last five years, yeah,
that's exactly what I did.
Yeah.
And that guilt then caused shameand people pointing the finger
and it, it was just a follow oneffect.

(17:42):
But there's a published studythat you can read today about
how to best get people to complyand the number one thing is
guilt.
Well, it worked.
Yeah.
It's such a crazy time.
I think it's just a, well, no,we didn't comply.
Do you look at it as just aglitch or like a little blip in
our, I think it's great life.

MIC2-1 (18:02):
I do, you know what?
I actually

MIC3-1 (18:03):
think that it's, it is going to create a much better
time in the future.
I'm very optimistic about bettertimes.
Are you guys all very so, and itwas easy to be very pessimistic
and be very.
Down and, and I've been there.
Yeah.
But I don't think I've ever feltso optimistic about the future.
Yeah.
About the younger kids comingthrough.

(18:26):
Yep.
Um, the research that isavailable out there, um, I'm
hearing statistics that.
Uh, less people ever are takingdrugs or drinking alcohol than
ever before.
Yep.
There's all this great stuffthat's like, there's a
turnaround.
For sure.
There is.
And I feel really hopeful andreally optimistic and really
inspired.

MIC2-1 (18:44):
there is a lot of unrest in the world.

MIC3-1 (18:47):
Then there's always been unrest.

MIC2-1 (18:48):
about.
Yeah.
I hear people talk about, thenew Earth.
The new earth to me, I feel likeis suddenly mankind has got to a
point.
We're on the brink.
We've been doing wars for howlong we've tried this.
We're trying to, people arestarting to question stuff.
People are learning thingsthrough, through That never

(19:10):
happened.

MIC3-1 (19:11):
They had the last five years not happen

MIC2-1 (19:12):
We we That's what

MIC3-1 (19:13):
that's what I'm saying.
True.
It

MIC2-1 (19:14):
needed to happen.

MIC3-1 (19:16):
because we were also in la la land.
We were comfortable.
We were so weren't wecomfortable?
And it goes back to that.
Hard times.
Mm-hmm.
Create good men.
Mm-hmm.
Good men create soft times andsoft times create hard, uh,
soft, soft men, men create hardtimes and, you know, they talk
about the seasons of life andyou know it throughout our whole

(19:37):
life, we have a summer, autumn,winter and spring.
And I, I think we're coming outof the winter.
Yeah.
I do too.
At for

MIC2-1 (19:44):
yeah.
And like on a scale that we'venever seen before.
Like they say, there's people.
Quitting jobs, relationshipsending, there's so much unrest.
This is a human psyche of, Ifeel like people are growing and
asking questions and going, thisdoesn't make sense.
And also going, how controlledare we?

(20:07):
How programmed have we been?
You know,

MIC3-1 (20:10):
The blinkers are coming off, the

MIC2-1 (20:11):
ve the veil has slipped, the masks coming off.
Even people that are.
Maybe very cynical and maybevery programmed are even
starting to go, you know what,yeah.
Maybe they've got a point.

MIC3-1 (20:25):
That's actually awesome, isn't it?
I think it's, I think it, it'sgreat and it had to happen.
Yeah.

MIC3-2 (20:30):
What do we do with all the information that's out
there?
I mean, how do you filter it.
Take what you need and leavewhat you don't.
You can't just sit there andabsorb.
Okay.
That's how I feel.
Like you're scrolling.
And scrolling.
Yeah.

MIC2-2 (20:42):
The doo don't, the doom scroll.
The doom scrolling is

MIC3-2 (20:46):
allowing news to find.
So if you want to find somethingout, go seek

MIC2-2 (20:49):
Seek.
But

MIC3-2 (20:50):
may stumble across something that's not true.
How do you know?
Well, you've gotta use your ownintuition.
Intuition and personalexperience and see, you know,
whatever backs it up or

MIC2-2 (21:03):
yeah.
I think from through my journey,your own

MIC3-2 (21:06):
intelligence

MIC2-2 (21:07):
basically, don't

MIC3-2 (21:07):
basically, don't you?
Does it feel right?

MIC2-2 (21:09):
My awakening, maybe, Your intuition grew very strong
through a lot of adversity and.
You know, getting in touch withyour pineal gland and spiritual
things that's happened to me.
It blows your mind.
Once you open that up, you startto get a massive intuition block

(21:32):
out

MIC3-2 (21:33):
out all the other noise though?
And there's so

MIC2-2 (21:35):
so you do and trust yourself.
But then also with that lotclear messages come through
where you just know.
That's not right.
And that is, but not always.
I'm not saying I'm some guru oranything now, but I do.
Yeah.
I am

MIC3-2 (21:53):
The guru

MIC2-2 (21:56):
far from.
But anyway, you do learn tofilter a lot more once that
happens.
It's just, it's, it's hard toexplain, but Yeah.
Yeah.
Um.

MIC3-2 (22:08):
The last five years our world being so off kilter and we
were talking about how peopleare really coming away.
So I think it's like, whenyou're sick, you come down with
a cold.
After that cold, you'restronger, you're better.
You've built your immunity.
We are all stronger for it.
But that goes with, um, like yousaid, your spiritual journey as
well.
Like you've, you've gotta get indown and dirty to build the

(22:32):
muscle to be stronger and comeout.
Better.
Right?
Can't have a rainbow unlessthere's rain.
Boom.

MIC2-2 (22:40):
burst.

MIC3-2 (22:41):
quote for the day

MIC2-2 (22:42):
Love it.

MIC3-2 (22:43):
stole it from someone else.
It's not my quote, butliterally, how beautiful is a
rainbow?

MIC2-2 (22:47):
You're like a freaking oracle.
You just crack that shit out.
Oh, I know.
I actually

MIC3-2 (22:51):
somebody said it to me once and I just love it and I do
use it all the time now.
'cause it's so true.
Because you cannot have arainbow unless there has been
rain.

MIC2-2 (22:59):
It is Right.

MIC3-2 (22:59):
So.
Then even building your musclein the gym, you are putting that
muscle under stress.

MIC2-2 (23:04):
You cannot

MIC3-2 (23:05):
build it stronger mm-hmm.
Without stressing it.
Mm-hmm.
And it's the same for our mentalhealth, our physical health, the
health of the world,

MIC2-2 (23:12):
the society.

MIC3-2 (23:13):
Mm-hmm.
If you, if everything's so hy,everyone loses the muscle and
it's just become weak.
Mm-hmm.
But you're saying it's like abig great big giant cold and you
get sick and then you get betterand then you build up your
immune system.
Yeah.
You're stronger.
But what if nobody's doing itproperly and they're all taking
lots of pills?

MIC2-2 (23:31):
Well, and

MIC3-2 (23:32):
the problem.

MIC2-2 (23:33):
Yeah.

MIC1-2 (23:33):
The

MIC3-2 (23:34):
So what if the world

MIC2-2 (23:35):
Does that, yeah.
Well, and they do.
I

MIC3-2 (23:38):
and basically, I feel like the news is the
pharmaceuticals.
That's, oh my gosh, I'm having,is it an epiphany?
The news.
The news is the drug.
Yeah.
Yep.
The government is the doctor.
So turn off the news people.
Stop taking the drugs, build up

MIC2-2 (23:56):
your immunity,

MIC3-2 (23:57):
immune system.
Boom.
This episode is dedicated to thememory of Charlie Kirk.
I started listening to Charliein 2020 and loved everything
that he stood for.
Freedom of Speech the World, um,is a better place.

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Having had you in it, ourthoughts and prayers go out to
his wife and family.
And everyone who is feeling theweight of what occurred
yesterday.
May you rest in peace, Charlie
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