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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome.
Welcome to Just Count Me In thepodcast dedicated to empowering
you to live in alignment andflow and live your best life.
Today we have a really specialguest, ava Rose, the Radiant
founder of Live Radiant Podcast.
Based in California, ava is amother of two, a former engineer
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, a project manager and apassionate guide who seamlessly
combines lunar living,scientific and spiritual
teachings with soulful practicesto help others shift out of
hustle mode and into the flow oflove, abundance and divine
timing.
Her work is all aboutreconnecting with your inner
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light, trusting your intuitionand embracing the divine rhythm
of life.
With her background inengineering and her deep
spiritual practices, ava bringsa really unique perspective that
blends logic and intuition,helping her clients live more
radiant, abundant and authenticlives.
Radiant, abundant and authenticlives.
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In this episode, I'm so excitedto explore how you can leave
behind the pressure to do moreand instead step into a life of
ease, flow and true radiance.
So get ready for inspiringinsights, practical wisdom and a
reminder that your mostauthentic and radiant self is
always, always within reach.
Without further ado, let'swelcome Ava Rose to the show.
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Welcome yeah, thank you forhaving me today thank you for
being here okay, so let's startwith this.
What does living your best lifemean to you like?
Not in theory, but in deep inyour bones?
What does it mean?
Speaker 2 (01:51):
yeah.
So to me, living my best lifemeans that each morning I wake
up with a full cup.
I'm eager for what's to come,and with that comes a sense of
freedom to be doing what I wantto be doing each day, unbound
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from any expectations of anyoneelse that don't fit my design.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Yeah, yeah, yeah,
yeah.
So I'm taking it that youweren't always like this, living
from this place, and yourjourney has been anything but
what I would call ordinary.
So can you maybe share with usa moment or a turning point when
you knew you just couldn't keepliving the way the world told
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you to anymore, and the time youknew that you needed to go a
different path?
Or was it just a peacefulrealization for you?
Speaker 2 (02:55):
I wish I could say it
was a peaceful realization.
I think that there wereactually the realization.
Moments have always beenpeaceful uh leading up to them.
Maybe not so peaceful, and I'vehad quite a few moments over the
last decade that have led me upto where I am now, but what
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comes to mind is a major turningpoint for me was in 2021.
So late 2020, early 2021.
You know, we were all goingthrough the pandemic era.
I was adjusting to motherhoodand I had left my job, which
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I've been wanting to leave for along time, but I left it pretty
hastily during the pregnancy,didn't know if I was going to
return to work at some point oryou know what I was going to do
moving forward, and so it was alot of uncertainty and a lot of
unknowns, and I had started tolook for a job, seeing, you know
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what could I get into and whatcould I get back into, because I
was feeling like I had thisexternal pressure to be doing
something besides just being whoI was in.
That moment was in that moment,and I had an astral cartography
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reading um, because anotherthing that I had been thinking
about a lot was where I livedand where I wanted to be living
and how I wanted to be living,and I think COVID brought up
those questions for a lot of usyes um, so I I did this astro
cartography reading and whatcame out of it was actually a
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whole new uh path for me inlearning about lunar astrology.
Um, so we had the astrocartography component, but what
really I took away from it waslearning about progressed lunar
cycles, and I learned that I wasin this what's called a
balsamic progressed moon phase,which is like the ending of a
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progressed lunar cycle, which isroughly 30 years of life.
And so, realizing that I was inthis, um, this like completion
point where things were wrappingup, and like it wasn't a time
to be doing and starting andseeding and going external, it
was a time to be deeply inward.
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And the more that I learnedabout that that specific phase,
the more I started realizingthat there really was a
different way to be living, likethere was something to these
progressed lunar phases.
And then I, I, um, I got a lotof books and I had some other
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readings and I started topractice lunar living, which is
attuning daily life to therhythm of the moon or the lunar
cycle, instead of our typicalAmerican you know, circadian
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rhythm, right, the solar cycle,the 24-7, the industrial work
week, all of that that had neverfelt right to me, but I didn't
know what else to do.
I didn't know what else to turnto.
And so this, all of a sudden,this framework had landed in my
lap for a way of of living andbeing.
That felt very natural to meand it was like something I had
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always been seeking.
And now I had it and I startedto practice that and I accepted
that I am someone who is notmeant to function in that
corporate world.
I am someone who is here tolive a spiritually based life
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and to have spiritually basedwork and to be all in, in in
that part of myself, and thatthat's where my gifts are and
that's where my power will comefrom.
And all of that really camethrough.
It had come through in othermoments, but it it came through
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in a way that I was actuallyable to receive it and see it as
my truth and accept it and say,okay, you know what?
I'm never going back to gettinga job, I'm never going back to
the 40 hour work week, I amnever going back to project
management.
I am never going back toengineering, because it's not
for me, it's out of alignmentand it will burn me out again.
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So I'm not doing it.
And I just made that decisionof like, no, like that's it, I
don't know what's um.
Like, I don't know what's umlike I don't know what's coming.
I had my um certification inhypnotherapy, but I hadn't done
anything with it yet and, uh, itjust became really clear to me
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that, like, okay, this is likethat turning point and I, I'm,
there is no back anymore, it'sonly, it's forward and it's in
the direction of spirit andalignment.
Wow.
And then, in addition to that,I also learned about human
design.
Um, during the same time periodand I learned that I am a
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projector in human design, whichmakes up about 20% of the
population, but we are wiredvery, very differently.
Our, our energetics functionvery differently, and so that
just that was like another layerthat really solidified, like,
okay, this templated life that Ihad been trying to live, it
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wasn't ever going to work and.
I was done with it okay.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
So just reminds me,
out of the mud right grows a
lotus, right?
No mud, no lotus.
So yeah, definitely anextraordinary story, definitely
an extraordinary story.
And it's out of those momentswhere they say the the cracks is
where the light gets in and it,when that happens, we pour gold
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in it.
And that's what you did youpoured gold, you poured gold and
because of that, it not onlybrightens what you're doing, but
it helps so many people.
I mean just the.
So the lunar thing.
Let's talk a little bit aboutthat, because I am new to this
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myself and I've been followingyou and learning about this from
you and sharing some of this.
So you talk a lot about divinetiming and feminine energy and
lunar alignment.
Could you explain that tosomeone who's new to listening
to you?
Speaker 2 (10:14):
yeah, and so what?
That?
What that means say in oureveryday life, um, in the the
most practical terms, is thatdivine timing is is this concept
that there there is a time foreverything in your life, um,
that there there is a path andthere's timing associated with
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that path and that has beenpredetermined div.
And whether you look at it likeit comes from God and that's
what God gave you, or if youco-created it with God before
being born, either way it's apredetermined divine timing for
all of it.
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And what can really help someone, what helped me connect back to
that divine timing, was throughaligning with the lunar cycle
because when you align with anatural rhythm of the cosmos,
you, you are alleviated from thepressures and the hustle and
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all this external, man-madefalseness, these like false
layers that we pack ontoourselves and then we fall out
of the timing because we thinkthat we're supposed to, you know
, do X Y Z when we're 18.
And we're supposed to know X YZ by the time we're 24.
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When we're 18, and we'resupposed to know xyz by the time
we're 24.
And when are you going to haveyour kids?
And oh, you're not married yet.
Or like, oh, you should havealready bought a house, but,
like all of these things, it'slike we're given this, this
template to live by and it's sorestrictive for so many of us,
but we don't know what else todo and you don't want to just
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look like you know you, I wantto be like a responsible adult,
right and like owning my um,taking care of what needs to be
taken care of.
When we realign our daily lifewith the natural rhythm of the
lunar cycle, which has beenaround and consistent and
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certain and offers us a tangiblething to look at, like tangible
evidence of its cycle, yes,then we can get back in touch
with our own natural rhythm.
When we slow down, when wecreate space, when we allow
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ourselves to have time to beactive, a time to be seen and a
time to rest and a time toreflect, when we allow for all
of those pieces of our life toexist and we don't rush any of
it, then we reconnect withourselves, we heal our feminine
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energy and we we welcome it allback in and we find our way back
to the path that was laid forus and we get back into our
divine timing.
And then, all of a sudden, wefeel like we're on purpose in
our lives again.
Mm-hmm, we don't feel behindanymore.
We remember we're not.
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It's impossible to be behind inyour own life yes, it is
impossible, because it's yourlife it's your life.
You're always connected to thatthat path, your path, your
purpose and your divine timing.
That's so true that's so true.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
So the power of
slowing down is one that in my
work, I work predominantly with.
Kids and teens and theirparents, and even people as
young as fifth grade are showingsigns of burnout.
I mean physical, mental stressburnout, let alone my teenagers
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and their parents, who areusually in their 30s, 40s, early
50s.
So why do you think this ishappening and how does your work
help people reclaim?
I recommended you to everybody.
I have to say there is not aperson that I work with right
now that I've not said you know,check this out and see if it
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resonates with you, because theycould all get something from it
if it's the right time for them.
Thank you for that.
Yes, no, thank you for forspeaking out.
So so how does this work helppeople reclaim their energy and
power and why do you think somany people are burnt out?
Speaker 2 (14:59):
big question oh,
we're, yeah, I, I.
I spent most of my life in somepart of the cycle of burnout,
being exhausted and depleted andand a lot of that, thinking
that there was something wrongwith me because I couldn't keep
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up.
And then I relied on a lot ofcaffeine and, um, just really
sourcing my energy from placesthat were not divine in order to
keep up, and that's where weburn out.
Um, we take on too much, wedon't allow ourselves to rest,
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we think that we have to beproducing in order to be
valuable.
Yes, that in itself is aburnout Just thinking that, just
believing that, buying intothat, will burn you out.
That will deplete your lifeforce, energy.
You have to work really hard toearn not just money but love.
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And you know, in our societywe're so conditioned to seek
approval from external sources.
We're not taught to beself-approved, we're not taught
to live a self-approved life,because we're taught that if you
do that then you're vain andyou're arrogant, and then you're
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probably a jerk because youdon't care about what other
people think of you.
And it's like I always say whatother people think about me is
none of my business.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
That's right.
It's not.
It's actually not, it's not mybusiness.
It's their business, it's theirthoughts.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
So I don't seek
approval from external anything
and I don't seek praise, and Idon't seek validation from
anywhere except for myself, andwhen I say myself, I mean like
the divine within me yes, yes,we're burnt out because we're
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all we're expected to performall the time and if you rest,
then you're either lazy or youmust be sick, or it's like
something's wrong with you ifyou need to rest you need to go,
go, go, produce, produce,produce more, better, faster.
And if you don't want to playthat game, well then you get
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cast out and you lose theapproval.
And then what do you have?
Right, you know, because if youdon't know how to approve of
yourself, then you feel reallylost and even worse.
So then you continue trying tokeep up.
So I know it.
It really saddens me to hearthat it's starting so early that
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they're like elementary schoolkids that are starting to show
signs of burnout.
Yes, like, and I know for mewith you know, you know, teddy,
he's five now and he's gonnastart kindergarten and I'm we're
being really careful about umlike, is this going to work out
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or not?
Like I'm gonna keep a veryclose eye on his energy levels
and his emotional health, andall of that because he he's also
a projector, so his energyfield is very absorbent and
that's something that we have tokeep in mind, you know.
So I think that youngergenerations there are more and
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more projectors coming in yes Idon't have actual like
statistics on that, but I that'sjust what I'm feeling.
And so there's more and more ofus with more porous, energetic
fields and more and more of uswho didn't come here to be the
builders of society.
We came here to be the guidesfor something new.
And so those kids, those people, they're going to burn out
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faster because they are not madeto make it in that, and so
we've got to come up with abetter way quickly.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
So how do you
actually help people break free
from that toxic productivity andthe pressure to keep up?
How do you do that so that theydon't get their identity, so
that they don't outsource, sothat they don't like?
Self-abandonment was the numberone.
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There was not one child, rightdown to a third grader, that did
not say that that was what theywanted to leave behind.
At the end of this school year,on the, the last full moon,
when we celebrated everythingand we said, well, what is it
that you would like to leavebehind?
And clear and self-abandonmentin one form or another, they
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were using those words and Ithink, wow, so that's you know.
I would call it selling out.
It really is more painful thanjust selling out.
It's and it comes from gettingyour identity from other people,
from other sources.
So how do you help people breakfree from that, the pressure to
keep up?
Speaker 2 (20:18):
yeah, so I do that in
two different ways.
One is that lunar framework,the lunar living framework, um,
aligning the, the day-to-day,that's like the the more like
tangible, tactical side of it islike actually aligning your
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day-to-day, moment-to-momentactions or inactions with the
lunar cycle, and just doing thatwill change so much, it will
have such a big impact.
The other piece of it is thehypnotherapy.
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So I am trained in bothclinical hypnotherapy and
multidimensional hypnotherapy.
Um, so I I am, I'm trained inboth clinical hypnotherapy and
multi-dimensional hypnotherapy,nice, um, and I like to weave
the two together and I thinkthat really helps people feel
safe.
Because I do have that, theclinical background, and I'm I'm
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very fascinated by thesubconscious mind and how it
works and how programming isformed and how we can delete it
and we can put in new programsand it's just, it's so
fascinating the human mind.
So I really I love that part ofmy work, but really what it
comes down to is just findingthe right words to break the
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spell that people are under,because that's just it, we're
all, until we're fully awake andfully conscious, we're under a
spell, and it's heavy and it'sthick and it's reinforced
everywhere you look, everythingthat you hear, it's in the food,
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it's in the water.
It's all of these componentsthat keep us under this spell,
that keep us living in this way.
That is not life supporting,but life depleting.
It keeps us from being tuned into ourselves and our intuition
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tuned in to ourselves and ourintuition.
What I really came tounderstand was that spells are
broken when people hear thetruth.
The truth sets you free and soit's just finding the words that
will reach someone to theirheart.
That will reach someone totheir heart and they'll hear
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something the truth and it'llresonate.
Yes, it's about resonance ofthe truth.
That's.
That's really what it is.
It's transmission of the truth,okay, and then, all of a sudden
, we start to remember who weare and why we're here, and you
know all of that.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
The falseness just
begins to fall away so there's
something really, in general,magnetic about the way that you
live.
What are a few practices thatyou live by that you think
contribute to you being mostradiant and most alive?
Speaker 2 (23:30):
yeah, for me, let's
say, there are a few different,
a few different pieces.
That's not like, oh, I get myeight hours every night and and
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then I'm good.
It's honoring what I need forrest, moment to moment, day to
day.
And I don't keep track.
I don't know how much sleep Iget at night.
Some days I can take a nap andsome days I can't.
But I have different ways ofcoming to a place of full rest
inside myself, settling mynervous system completely so
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that I can recharge and continueabout the day.
You know, some days there'smore space for that and some
days there's less.
I have two little kids that I'mhome with and you know, with
that comes a lot of activity andnot always being able to choose
when I sleep, but, but tendingto my needs for rest as a like a
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very, very high priority is abig, big piece of it for me.
Okay, so that makes a bigdifference.
Yeah, what else?
Can you repeat the question?
Speaker 1 (24:51):
yes, I definitely can
.
So well, that's a really goodanswer.
I was thinking about the answertoo.
Definitely so, and I'm gladthat you've got.
I mean, obviously I'm glad thatyou've got children, but I'm
glad that you are a mom rightnow and you've got.
I mean, obviously I'm glad thatyou've got children, but I'm
glad that you are a mom rightnow and you've got young
children.
Because people need to hear whenthey have children, it's when
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someone is not in a position andis not a mom or a dad staying
home with children, and theyhear somebody talk about
prioritizing less.
They're like, yeah, it must benice, you know that type of
thing and you're making it workwithin, you're weaving it into
your life, and maybe it's notalways perfect, you know, but
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it's always prioritized and it'sa way of being and it's a way
of living and your children areseeing it.
So this is important.
It's actually it makes it alittle bit, I think, more
credible for people who do havechildren to hear another parent
say that that's pretty powerful,because our culture has a lot
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of like I'll sleep when I'm deadand you know like you hear
these crazy things.
I think my dad used to say that.
Actually, god bless him.
But you know it's it's um notpopular to say I'm tired, I'm
going to take a break, and andthat's part of all of it.
So the rest of the question wasthe most radiant, the most
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alive.
So you've got the lunar, you'vegot the rest.
What other practices do youhave?
Speaker 2 (26:28):
I also prioritize.
I have a very deep spiritualpractice.
Okay, so I prioritizemeditation and that, again,
that's another thing that getsshifted around throughout.
You know, I don't have, there'sso much pressure I've felt and
like that.
Oh, it's all about your morningroutine and setting the tone
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for the day, and we know what,when you have little kids, you
don't always get to pick, unlessI want to get up at four in the
morning and then still noguarantees, because when mom's
up, the kids can feel it, theycan sense it when you're awake
and when you're on the phone.
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I have learned how to make it apriority and also make it one
something that's realistic to tohave happen within my day.
Good, but I I spend, I don'tknow time wise, probably at
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least an hour a day in very,very deep meditation, and it's
not all continuous.
Sometimes it's 10 minutesbefore I sit down to work, and
then sometimes it's, you know, ahalf an hour before dinner or
something, whenever I can fit itin and whatever is needed for
that day.
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But that connection to myhighest self and to God is
incredibly important yes, it is,thank you.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
So I know that the
people that you work with go
through really massivetransformations.
What shifts do you see mostoften in the people who work
with you?
Speaker 2 (28:16):
what I see is really
amazing, actually, because it's
I get to watch women inparticular stop caring about
what other people think of themand start living on their own
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terms, and that's really cool,you know, beyond whatever
success is created in their workor whatever they're able to
manifest because of that.
But it's, it's so likeliberating um to to witness it,
to witness someone go fromkeeping themselves playing
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really small because they'rethey're carrying the
responsibility of other people'sreactions to them, and to see
someone stop doing that,particularly a woman, and just
be like I'm not doing anymore.
What does it feel good to me?
Yeah, and just leave thingsbehind or pick something up that
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they had put down for a while.
I think that that's.
It's just.
It's such an important, it wassuch an important piece of my
journey to live thatself-approved life, and it's
such a gift to be able to guideothers into stepping in to them,
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to themselves, into theirhighest self and their highest
timeline, and not give a crapwhat anyone else thinks of them.
Good, yes, yeah, to let all thepetty stuff go.
All the petty things go to torealize what actually matters in
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life and to just go for thatyeah, to just cut those chains
that bind Right.
Speaker 1 (30:12):
Cut those chains that
bind and just be free.
Well, I can feel women, I canfeel a lot of lineage cheering
you on with that.
I mean, you speak for all womenand you speak for all that have
come before you and I thinkwe're so lucky that you're doing
this.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (30:31):
Yes, no, thank you.
So your work is a remembrance.
What are we remembering?
What is it exactly that we'reremembering when we step into
our radiance?
Speaker 2 (30:44):
we are remembering
who and what we are, which is
divine, and who and what we are,which is divine, and who and
what we came here to be, whichis a remembrance in itself.
Yes, Particularly for women inthis time, remembering the
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divine feminine and bringingthat frequency back in order to
support the ascension of theearth and the dismantling of
these damaging systems that havebeen controlling everything and
suppressing the feminine for solong.
And so we are.
We're remembering how powerfulwe are and we're also
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remembering what the intendeddesign of life is for us, and
that it's not supposed to behard.
It's my opinion.
There will always be challengesto the human experience.
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There doesn't ever have to be astruggle and there doesn't ever
need to be suffering.
We don't need to suffer anymore, so we're remembering how to
learn through empowermentinstead of suffering.
Yes, and that's something thatwomen do uniquely, and we
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haven't been able to do for avery long time, but we can now.
Yes.
Speaker 1 (32:22):
Oh, we totally can
now.
Speaker 2 (32:24):
Yeah.
So everything is here tosupport us, despite any kind of
evidence that's passed to usthrough the media that would say
otherwise.
Energetically, we are completelyand fully supported in that and
the more and more of us thattake that in and remember that
truth and support each other aswe each do that, the more
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impactful it will be.
And then the will be, and thequicker this ascension process
will happen, the quicker we canall get to living these joyful
lives, coming from this place ofcreativity and love and
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possibility and as we werecreated to do by divine design
yes, and as children start outdoing yes, and that's how you
know that that's the divinedesign.
Speaker 1 (33:25):
Yes, if left to their
own accord.
This is how it would be, thisis how it would be for them,
without the minus, theprogramming minus, the
everything being imposed on them.
So, yes, so it's coming home,coming home to yourself, and
it's been a big issue.
I know personally and for someof the people I work with, even
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the some of the young ladies,some of the teens that I work
with, and myself, I mean, therewas a time when I lost trust.
I lost trust in my timing, Ilost trust of my body, I started
doubting my intuition, and Isee it with these girls that I
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work with sometimes.
And what do you?
How do you help someone whenthey've had it, had something,
had an experience, and losttrust in themselves as a result
of it?
Speaker 2 (34:22):
yeah, that's a great
question, you know I'm I'm
really in a moment of thatmyself coming back into trusting
myself and my divine timing andall of that.
I've been in it for a few years, but it's a process, because
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there was a lot that led up toit, because there was a lot that
led up to it right and what Iwould say, you know, a practice
that's really helped me, andthis, this is fairly I would
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call it advanced spiritual work,but it's something that I do
regularly and it is somethingthat I guide clients through,
and that's a process where weget to go back revisit that
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moment in time where we turnedaway from God.
And we get to.
In that moment, you get to callin your higher self and you get
to let your higher self makethe choice.
So, you've got to be able toidentify what was that choice.
You know, what did I say no toor what did I say yes to?
It's usually not hard touncover, and so you can get back
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into it and then you let yourhigher self make the choice
differently and then you allowthings to progress based on that
choice being made that way fromyour highest self, and you
watch it unfold and there's ahealing that happens.
It's a healing that occurs whenwe witness this, and then what
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it does is it allows us tocollapse time back from that
moment to now, and so then,anything that we blocked or
repressed or shoved awayopportunities, abundance,
(36:36):
anything like that, because ofour choice to turn away from god
, we get to receive it now.
Um, so it's in a way, you knowthey always.
Well, you can't change the past.
Well, energetically, you can,yes, and you can, and it can all
(36:56):
be like you can be brought backinto a space where all is well
very quickly If you're willingto do that work.
Speaker 1 (37:06):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (37:06):
If you're willing to
silence the ego for a little bit
and really reconnect with thehigher self and and do that work
.
Then you get to.
You see that there are no truemissed opportunities, because
everything that is for you willcome to you when you are ready
(37:27):
to receive it.
And so it's like, when you'rein those moments, well, what
would the version of you whotrusts in god?
Maybe you don't trust yourself,maybe you you made some crazy
choices, or maybe you justyou're still really young, you
(37:48):
haven't learned that yet rightbut you can trust in God, right,
and you can trust that there isa plan for you.
And so if you trust it in that,what would the version of you
who trust, who fully trust inthat, to feel that and ask her
what do you say about thismoment?
(38:09):
I love that.
Is it okay?
All is well?
That's what she says.
All is well, all is goingaccording to plan.
And then if you want to rewritesomething, you want to rewrite
your story, then you can do thatenergetically and then it
carries forward, it collapsestime to the present moment and
(38:32):
all is well.
So you always have the powerwithin you to return to that
place of God within you, toreturn to that place of love and
know that all is well and thatyou're taken care of and that
you can trust it's alwaysavailable and that you're taken
(38:55):
care of and that you can trustit's always available.
Speaker 1 (38:59):
That's a really,
really beautiful answer and it
makes me feel like anything ispossible.
And I mean, when you look innature, things can be healed.
Things heal, animals heal.
Your body, naturally heals.
So why would we think thatwe're any different?
Why would we be any different,right?
Speaker 2 (39:15):
We're not any
different.
We're not any different, notany different, but we have to
return to love and return totrust in God and in our highest
self, and then the universe willcourse correct.
The universe has a tendencytowards abundance and beauty and
divine perfection, and it willtake care of all of that as soon
(39:38):
as we move away from the egoand and let our higher self take
the wheel.
Yeah, that's right that's right.
Speaker 1 (39:51):
So you also speak
wealth.
I have written down in my notes.
I wanted to make sure wehighlighted this.
You speak about wealth in areally unique way and I loved
the episode where you were whereyou explain that in your
podcast.
I forget the number, but Iwould go back and listen to all
of them.
If you haven't listened to herpodcast yet, just check them all
(40:13):
out.
That one really resonated withme as far as money and healing
about money.
So you speak about that in aunique way.
How does your approach towealth differ, for those that
haven't gotten to know you, fromtraditional success culture?
Speaker 2 (40:31):
yeah, it differs
wildly, wildly different from
the common knowledge orpractices or approach, beliefs,
any of that.
Um, you know, years ago Iremember I was listening to a
talk from a spiritual coach andentrepreneur and she was talking
(40:55):
about money and she said moneycomes from God, like money comes
from source, and it really itwas one of those truth breaking
the spell moments for me.
I was like, oh, she's sayingthis, like, and I just sat with
(41:16):
that because up until thatmoment I had always thought that
money was manmade.
Money was manmade, it's amanmade system, it's BS.
I'm annoyed that I have to dealwith it, that I have to deal
with it, you know, and like, Iwanted it because I like a
certain lifestyle.
(41:36):
Yes, I also held that opinionthat it was annoying and that
it's man-made and that it's notreal, and that it's just this,
you know, obligation, obligatorygame that I had to play and I
(41:57):
didn't really want to play thegame.
I just wanted to have the money.
And so she said that money comesfrom source, money comes from
source.
And I wrote it down.
And then I was doing, uh, I hadbeen doing this other series of
meditations from uh youprobably are both familiar with
(42:17):
it, from wayne dyer and divinelove, and he's always, you know,
says like god is love, right,god is love, yes, and I wrote
down like okay, if god is loveand money comes from god.
And I just wrote it down and itwas just on a post-it note for
(42:37):
like two years and I would justlook at it and I would practice
like imbuing my money with love,like cultivating that loving
relationship with money,bringing it it into my practice,
my spiritual practice, likebringing it into that
multidimensional space.
And then it wasn't until I umstarted working with uh a mentor
(43:05):
her name is Karina Stewart andshe said money is God, and she
said money is God.
And I just it was like again,another truth breaks the spell
moment.
And I saw in my mind thatpost-it note and I saw the words
just like collapse and form.
Money is God.
So I was like money comes fromsource, god is love, is money
(43:29):
love?
Like it's all God?
And that's the point, it's allGod.
And that's the point, it's allGod, and so when you look at
money that way and wealth thatway, it's a completely different
game.
Speaker 1 (43:44):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (43:44):
There's nothing to be
built.
There is nothing to strive for.
It's not about earning.
There is nothing to strive for.
It's not about earning.
It's about exchanging God withother divine beings of light on
the planet and expanding eachother in that exchange.
Speaker 1 (44:06):
I love the expanding
each other.
Speaker 2 (44:09):
Yeah, and it's all,
and there's's.
I mean, there's so much to itthat, because there's also, we
all have a divine inheritance,we all have a trust from god.
You know, printed on our moneyin america is what in god's
trust exactly?
It's on our money, it is.
You know, somebody was pickingup something, someone knew, yeah
(44:36):
, someone knew.
So there's actually like youhave a trust, a trust fund from
God, because God is money, godis the source of all.
And for anyone who is of anoppressed lineage, that has been
oppressed, say anyone of Jewishlineage, um, as I am, as you
(45:02):
are, um.
And then anyone, any woman,because there's been a lot of
wounding around women and wealth.
That money has been withheldfrom us for millennia.
Yes, and because of the shiftsin the consciousness of the
(45:23):
earth, the return of thefeminine frequency, now is a
time where we actually get tocall all of that back.
We get to call it in, and sothere's a lot of I say the
wealth isn't the work, thehealing is.
Speaker 1 (45:39):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (45:40):
And it's like
something that I've always known
as I went through like mycorporate kind of careers and
I'm just looking at people andthe way that they were
accumulating money and buildingwealth and it always just felt
so awful to me, it did not feelright and I've gone about my
life as though I was going tojust receive some huge
inheritance at some point and Ididn't know where it was going
(46:04):
to come from.
But I've always known it andit's like now I know because I'm
getting direct from God.
Yes, of course I'm taken careof, of course it, and it's not
about a specific amount of money.
No.
We're trying to achieve any sizeof a bank account, or it's
about getting in flow, learninghow to be a receiver, a radiant
(46:27):
receiver, of all that is meantfor me, all that is my
birthright in this lifetime, andthen sharing that God energy,
that source energy, with others,keeping it in flow, keeping it
in exchange to further supportthe expansion of light and of
consciousness on the earth.
It's like this really, reallybeautiful process when we look
(46:49):
at it that way, compared to thetypical, like conventional ways
of wealth building, like it's acompletely different approach.
Speaker 1 (46:59):
it feels very
different and it looks different
and the work is different it'saltruistic, yes, very altruistic
, like altruism, as opposed toour traditional capitalism,
capitalism's a very evolutionary, highly evolved way of looking
(47:22):
at things and just somethingwithin me feels like absolutely
like this is just a truth.
It's a truth.
Yeah, it's a truth, it is justa truth.
Speaker 2 (47:31):
It's a truth.
Yeah, it's a truth.
Speaker 1 (47:32):
It's just a truth
that breaks the spell that we're
coming home to how supported weare.
Why wouldn't we be when youthink about it?
Why wouldn't we?
Why would we ever question that?
Why wouldn't?
Speaker 2 (47:43):
we be.
Why would God design us?
Yeah why would god express godin form in a, a physical space,
to imbue suffering?
Speaker 1 (48:01):
right and to be like
well, you're on your own now,
that's it, good luck.
It's not like that for anythingthat's on this earth.
Why would it be like that forus?
Why would it be like that?
You're right.
You're right.
Speaker 2 (48:16):
Everything is
supported you know, and what I
find is interesting aboutcapitalism is that there is a
component of capitalism thatsupports constant growth right,
which we could kind of say is amirror of, or a version of, what
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wealth is in God's face, whichis that ever flowing, always
expanding right.
That's what consciousness isdoing, so it's it's almost like
someone got a glimmer of whatmoney was supposed to be like
but then they were so driven bytheir egos that the other
(49:04):
components of capitalism werebuilt in, and there was hoarding
and there's withholding, andthere's darkness in it it
doesn't support the expansionsof consciousness.
So it's not the same thing.
But to me it's almost likesomeone got like a little, a
little piece of it, a littleglimpse, and then they, they got
the rest of it a little bit offso I've been meaning to ask you
(49:30):
because you're part.
Speaker 1 (49:31):
You are a very
radiant person.
Like they say some people,there's sparkle and there's glow
.
You absolutely radiate.
I mean, you radiate God.
You radiate your beauty fromwithin and it's external as well
, just through and through, andyour podcast is called live
(49:51):
radiantant.
So what inspired that name andhow do you think that ties into
the life that you're here tohelp other people create?
Speaker 2 (50:00):
So originally the
podcast was called Align and
Flow Living, which is about it'sa lot about lunar living, but
it's also my view on how lifegoes, and that's that we align
with our truest self, with God,and then we flow through life
(50:27):
and life flows through us, andthat it's meant to be easy.
It's not supposed to be astruggle, it's not supposed to
be an uphill battle, and it'ssomething that I've, that I've
always known and I have tried inmany ways to convey to people
throughout my life.
And I have man, have I beenrejected by that?
(50:51):
um, because if someone isprogrammed for the struggle and
they've never known what itfeels like, to be in alignment
and to have life just flow, tohave everything just come to you
, then that that's a veryirritating concept it is.
Speaker 1 (51:12):
What would you say to
someone who feels like they're
just always chasing and they'renever arriving, and they've
bought into that whole thingthat we're never enough, that we
need to seek more, that we needto have more, that we need to
do more, that we need to be more?
What would you say to somebody?
Speaker 2 (51:32):
you know that's a
that's a tough question um
because.
I, I don't.
I don't know that I would sayanything, because I'm not here
to convince anybody.
I think I would.
I mean, if somebody is reallyin it like that, I think the
(51:53):
best thing that I can do is justhold my own in my frequency and
let my presence speak and then,if they're curious after I'm
gone, after I leave the room orthe meeting or the whatever,
then they can find me in thesevarious platforms online and,
(52:20):
you know, dip their toes in Okay.
But I don't.
I do not anymore expend myenergy talking to someone when
they are in the clutches oftheir ego.
That's not where my work is.
It's not where my work isPeople that come to me.
(52:41):
They're ready to dive in andthey're already very connected
spiritually.
Or at least they can feel itcoming up and like they're
wanting it.
So someone who's not in a placeof wanting that right I, I'm
not here for them becausethey're unconsciously at that.
They're unconscious and that's,and that's not where I'm meant
(53:02):
to meet people there arepractitioners out there, and
that's that's their.
Those are their people andthey're meant to, to meet them
and to.
Speaker 1 (53:17):
Let's get personal.
What's something that'scurrently expanding you or
something you're still inprocess with?
Clearly, you've done anexponential amount of work and
diving and you're always goingto be learning, always going to
be learning and sharing butwhat's something that you
yourself are in the process ofexpansion with?
Speaker 2 (53:40):
or in the process of
expansion with.
Honestly, I feel like I am inthe process of expansion with
everything all the time.
Oh, I call it thetransformation tumbler and I
yeah, I recently I just had acheck-in session with my
(54:05):
astrologer.
Um, she really, she reallyhelps me just get a get a
different perspective on things,and she pulls up my chart and
tells me what's going on, likeat that moment, and we talk
about things and I said justthis year, I've just been, I've
just been in the tumblr, it'sjust like non-stop.
And she just very gently toldme that I am here to understand
(54:33):
that life is transformation.
And so, you know, if she hadshe put it very gently, yes, but
I'll say it in more um, direct,but it's like a get used to it.
This is life from now on,because this is the path that I
chose and it's one of the thesomeone who chooses that it
(55:05):
doesn't ever I don't ever stopexpanding in in any area, but I,
you know, specifically what I'mreally working with right now
is that I am I'm a beginner inmy work, like I'm a beginner in
(55:28):
this career, if we want to callit that, um, as this clinical
multidimensional hypnotherapist,like I'm still new.
There are people that have beendoing this for multiple decades
, right and I.
I've been doing it on and off,but full time.
It's been like six months, andI don't like being a beginner,
(56:06):
catch myself a lot in doingthings that are going to make me
appear as though I am morefurther along in the business,
and I then I remind myself thatthat's not necessary because,
though I am a beginner to whatI'm, my business is a beginner
right to what I'm, to what I'm,my business is a beginner right
To what I'm offering.
What I'm offering is ancientwisdom.
Speaker 1 (56:25):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (56:27):
And I have, unlike a
lot of people who learn
something and immediately put itout there, not faulting them in
any way, that's their design,it's not mine.
So I've spent about 15 yearstheir design, it's not mine.
So I've spent about 15 yearsliving and practicing and
integrating and fully embodyingeverything that I'm teaching and
(56:48):
so that, while there's alwayssomething new that's coming in
because I'm always expandingwhat I'm, what I'm offering I'm
so solid in it that my, my workis very advanced and so just
seeing myself as like thebusiness is new, but I am like
(57:13):
the ancient wisdom, steppinginto the room and owning that.
Owning, you know, owning thework that I've done to get to
this point, and so you thinkabout like a surgeon or
something and all that schoolthat they Right.
That they go through before theyeven get to get in the OR.
Speaker 1 (57:32):
As they should,
that's what I've been doing.
Yes, yes, as they should.
Yes, as they should, and I'mlike, and I am here and I live
it and breathe it and walk mytalk and I think anyone who
hears you and is ready to hearwhat you're saying you're
(57:57):
life-changing, absolutelylife-changing, and in a soft, in
a soft, a soft, but very, veryI'm gonna say valid way, like
you can tell, you can feel thehistory and you can feel that
it's ancient teachings and youcan feel that you've simmered it
(58:19):
in the pot long enough thatit's good soup and you're not
biting into a carrot that'scrunching.
I mean, you just know sorry, assomeone who's been into a carrot
.
So you know, you just know youcan feel the difference between
that style, the style that youhave.
(58:39):
But to me personally, the trustthat I have with someone who
has fully embodied it and livedit and tried it and made
mistakes in it and expandedwithin it, that's a whole
different level than someonewho's read a book or heard a
(59:02):
podcast and is just repeating it, which I'm not disrespecting in
any way, but there's just adifferent.
It's different ways to convey amessage, that's all.
It's very yeah different ways,but very, very helpful and I'm
glad and I thank you for doingit your way, because you're
going to help a lot of peoplewith this.
(59:24):
So, finally, if someone islistening today and they are at
a crossroads um, it's people onmy podcast every.
I can't think of anybody whoI'm working with that's not at a
crossroads.
Maybe it's just the times orthe times in their life.
But I'm trying to scan my brainright now Is anybody just kind
(59:47):
of like going along and Iwouldn't knock, but everybody is
at a crossroads right now thatI'm working with.
So if they're ready to livedifferently but they're not sure
how, or they're just startingto live differently, what's the
first step one step manageablethat you would offer them?
(01:00:08):
What would that first step be?
Speaker 2 (01:00:11):
I mean, the first
step is acknowledging that you
want things to be different.
That's not working, and beingokay with that.
Like hey this isn't working andbeing okay with that, like, hey
, this isn't working and I wantto change it.
Not, this isn't working for me.
What's wrong with me?
This isn't working for me.
Why does it work for everyoneelse but not for me?
(01:00:32):
This isn't working for me, butI've been doing it for so long.
I have to stay with it andfinish it yes but this isn't
working for me, and I, I am opento the possibility of something
better.
Yes, so that's really the firststep before you reach anywhere.
(01:00:53):
That's so true.
It's just to acknowledge itfully with within yourself and
to accept it.
Accept that you want it to bedifferent, and the reason that
you want it to be different isbecause something in your life,
in this moment, is out ofalignment with your divine
design.
And so that's your soul's wayof letting you know, sending you
(01:01:16):
a message, a little flare likehey, well we're're.
You know some, this isn't rightfor us so realizing that you
are not the problem.
Speaker 1 (01:01:29):
You are not the
problem to be fixed nothing
wrong with you there's nothingthere's nothing to fix and
there's nothing wrong with youwell, I have so enjoyed this
time with you and I'm so excitedto get this episode out there
for those people who want to,and we'll make sure that we link
your contact information in theshow notes for those people who
(01:01:53):
want to get to know you better.
Where can they find you?
Speaker 2 (01:01:59):
Yeah, so they can
check out the podcast Live
Radiant.
That's a great place to getinto my energy more.
I've enjoyed it.
My website,liveradiantwithabacom you can
check me out there.
I'm also on TikTok atliveradiantwithaba.
(01:02:21):
So, yeah, a few differentplaces, awesome, um, you can
check me out there.
I'm also on tick tock at liveradiant with eva uh, so, yeah, a
few different places awesome,you can find me and, yeah, I
have a few if you can work withme one to one, uh, through the
summer.
I also have a couple ofprograms coming out one that
will be a live privatemastermind that'll run from July
(01:02:48):
through I believe it's lateOctober.
Okay, the radiant reset, andI'll have some, um, some
self-paced courses alsoavailable around visibility and,
(01:03:08):
uh, feeling comfortable beingseen and and that type of work.
So I have a lot, a lot ofthings out there, a lot of
different ways to to work withme and to get to know me better
and, yeah, yeah, so there'ssomething for everybody there's
something for everyone.
Yeah, I really like to make atleast some aspect of the work
(01:03:30):
available for for everyone, yeah, who is open to it and and
ready to hear it and ready tomake these shifts and and be a
part of this movement to um, youknow, support the earth and the
expansion and the move intohigher consciousness and our new
(01:03:51):
ways of living that are reallyjust right around the corner.
If we, if enough of us, juststep up to the plate and and
start doing it, it's really,it'll happen so fast.
Speaker 1 (01:04:06):
Yes, I believe that.
I believe that.
Well, thank you, and thank youso much for sharing this and
thank you for your time.
I know you're busy and I'm sureyou'll be hearing from people.
Yeah, thank you very much.
Speaker 2 (01:04:21):
I really enjoyed this
.
Speaker 1 (01:04:22):
No, thank you, I
enjoyed it too.