Adventures in Country Music, Brother Hijinks, and Songwriting Magic with Dan & Reid Isbell :: Ep 43 Try That in a Small Town Podcast

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Where a lot of people are singing about country music
and singing about a lifestylethat sometimes they don't live.
You know, and sometimes you cansee through that we had Dustin
Lynch on and, dude, this countryis cornbread man and we were at
For a guy with that good ofteeth, that was kind of
surprising.

Speaker 3 (00:17):
I saw stuff in Australia I never thought I'd
ever see you?

Speaker 2 (00:20):
I bet you did.

Speaker 3 (00:22):
When they say there's stuff in Australia that would
kill you.
Oh, we were down there touring.
We're at a bar and saw a tree.
Though the tree was moving,it's the whole side of a tree
and I asked the bartender I'mlike man, there's something in
that tree, man Big.

Speaker 2 (00:37):
Big in that tree Right.

Speaker 3 (00:38):
Something big.
He goes oh mate, it's just oneof those.
Just a little city back and thething took off.

Speaker 2 (00:49):
It looked like a horse with wings man, it was so.
I had a fun country band Reidfelt physics told me at a show.

Speaker 1 (00:54):
He was moving to Nashville and I was like great,
come on, I doctor, I've time toschools up questions for the
second literally, I'm like somepeople call you below, you know
from the front rows

Speaker 2 (01:11):
a failed chemistry, physics, okay, okay, he's like
just broke up my girlfriend.
I was like all right, man, likeokay, I got to finish the
second first, and then he's likeI'm moving to Nashville.
I've got to finish the secondverse and then he's like I'm
moving to Nashville.
I was like dude, we'reliterally riding home together
we can talk about all of thisafter I get through this set,

(01:33):
he's like we're going to besongwriters.

Speaker 7 (01:35):
The Try that in a Small Town podcast begins now.

Speaker 8 (01:44):
Give us some God's country.
Look at them beers, god'scountry.
Yeah, we got them both righthere.

Speaker 6 (01:53):
God's country, god's country bring us in Kurt nice so

(02:17):
how do you follow that God's?

Speaker 9 (02:19):
Country.
Episode of the Try that in aSmall Town podcast.
As Neil told you, we got God'scountry.
Some people call them theBrothers Hunt.
Some people call you Dan andReed.

Speaker 1 (02:30):
Is it Dan and Reed or Reed and Dan, reed and Dan?
Who do you think is older?
Oh, I ain't playing.
No, we don't work together.

Speaker 8 (02:36):
You cut your beard.
I can't tell anymore.
You're identical twins.

Speaker 9 (02:38):
You can't say anything.

Speaker 2 (02:38):
Who's?

Speaker 7 (02:39):
older between me and Reed.
You're identical, youridentical twins.

Speaker 4 (02:41):
If you had to guess, that's it I'm gonna say you,
because you're the more dominantokay, so who is older I'm?

Speaker 9 (02:57):
older oh yeah, you're right okay, we guess, let's go

Speaker 1 (03:00):
four years.

Speaker 3 (03:00):
Sorry, I didn't give you a chance I was going to say
you only because of thedistinguished slight more gray
in the beard.

Speaker 1 (03:08):
That's three kids, that's two kids, that's right
yeah yeah, yeah you're a littlepatchy, bro, because it's
because it's pulling on thestress bro he has like a weird
tip where he pulls especiallybeard, especially when I drive
and I'm thinking.
My wife all the time is likeRay, quit pulling your beard,

(03:28):
Really.

Speaker 9 (03:29):
And you actually pull it out.
I pull it out.
It's like a thing Face me.
Wow, okay, I see it.

Speaker 1 (03:35):
You see the green, it's like the rough and then the
green right in the middle.
Yeah so I got I do like this awhole lot trying to really.

Speaker 2 (03:43):
Yeah, man, you know, 10-12 years in this town will
get you, that's right, pullingyour hair out, that's right.

Speaker 8 (03:49):
What do y'all think of the state of the industry
right now?

Speaker 6 (03:51):
oh boy, we're going right to it, we're going in.
We're going in.
Hot look hey.

Speaker 8 (03:55):
I don't, I'm not holding back.
Let me take a drink.

Speaker 1 (04:00):
I say that on our podcast all the time.
You're like let's go viral.
Dude, say something that getsus viral.

Speaker 9 (04:05):
I really feel bad for you guys.
You guys have an awesomepodcast.
You don't seem to piss anybodyoff.
You guys get any hate, likePETA.

Speaker 2 (04:22):
Does PETA hate you guys?
Yeah, they hate us, For surethey got to.
Yeah, they hate us and that'sfine.
I mean you don't really care.
It's the same kind of theory.

Speaker 9 (04:30):
J-Lo, he's talking to you.

Speaker 7 (04:34):
Are you a drunk?

Speaker 8 (04:35):
guy.
We all know what PETA reallystands for People eating.

Speaker 2 (04:40):
Tasty animals, that's right.
Oh nice C-E-T-A man, that'sright.
So Tasty animals, that's right,that's right.

Speaker 5 (04:43):
Oh nice, C-E-T-A man, that's right, so you?

Speaker 2 (04:43):
know man?
Look, I think it's one of thosethings where you're trying good
intentions right Best ofintentions.
Was it Trev's trip?
Yeah, something like that thatwas.

Speaker 1 (04:58):
And I think if PETA thought they could actually
change this, they'd probablycome after us, but they think it
way too far down this rabbithole to even think about that.

Speaker 2 (05:03):
It kind of, you know, when I think about guys that I
could probably still beat theshit out of, I think about guys
from PETA.

Speaker 1 (05:11):
PETA guys got nothing on us, but there's not a lot of
those guys left.
I'm not worried about PETA, weain't worried about PETA.

Speaker 3 (05:16):
You're not going to feel really intimidated by any
of our PETA.
I think you're.

Speaker 8 (05:18):
I would love to see a lot of them blocking your gate.

Speaker 2 (05:22):
It'd be awesome.
It feels like Hell's Angels orsomething.

Speaker 6 (05:28):
Don't kill deer.

Speaker 9 (05:30):
Oh, I love it.
We got you guys some hot water.

Speaker 8 (05:33):
All I have to do is give them some of my jerky and
they'd be in.

Speaker 6 (05:35):
Hey, dude, that is good.

Speaker 1 (05:37):
Neil, convert them Instantly you do your own jerky.

Speaker 9 (05:41):
Do you cook your own jerky?
Do you cook your own jerky?

Speaker 3 (05:42):
It's good, you can guess it to some people.
Well, here we go, here we go, Igot my own.

Speaker 1 (05:46):
I smoke mine on a trigger.
I smoke mine now.
I don't dehydrate anymore.

Speaker 8 (05:49):
You're going to have to show me how to smoke it on a
trigger.
Have a trigger Easy.

Speaker 1 (05:51):
Easy Two hours, three hours.

Speaker 2 (06:01):
I'll try.

Speaker 8 (06:01):
It was out there on the counter for everybody to
take and Kurt just missed it.

Speaker 9 (06:06):
No, I have a different side of the show.
That's the.

Speaker 1 (06:09):
Arlie Bird gets the jerky right there.

Speaker 3 (06:11):
So you guys wrote a lot for Luke Combs.
You write a lot for Luke Combs.
Did you guys write the Kind ofLove we Make?
We did Before we even get going.
I didn't want to forget this.
That's my favorite Luke Combssong.
That's got a classic feel to it.
It sounds like it could be 80s,could be 90s.

(06:32):
The groove, the melody, Greatjob.

Speaker 8 (06:35):
I bet we can get him to sing it later.

Speaker 4 (06:38):
Yeah, and that was your first number one.
That's my first and your third.
Yes, sir, let's go.

Speaker 2 (06:42):
That's my first listen.
Yeah, my first listen.
Yes, sir, let's go, that'sright.
Yeah, it was a pretty wild waythat that song kind of came to
fruition.

Speaker 1 (06:50):
We were supposed to be turkey hunting down in
Mississippi and went down therewith our other co-writer on the
song and Dan went to collegewith him and he's like our other
brother, jamie Davis, and he'snow Luke's rhythm guy in his
band utility guy kind of.
But we were down there supposedto be turkey hunting.
We woke up Saturday morning itwas raining, cats and dogs and

(07:11):
we were drinking coffee andhanging out and Dan was like man
, maybe we should like, you know, since we're not going to go
turkey hunting, maybe we shouldwrite a song.

Speaker 6 (07:17):
And me and Jamie were like yeah right, what are you
talking about?

Speaker 7 (07:21):
We're on vacation right now I'm going to sit here,
and drink some coffee and watchit rain.

Speaker 2 (07:26):
It's not very like me , honestly.
Usually I'm the first to belike we ain't riding nothing
today, but that day.
I was like well, and it wasearly too.
It was like 7.30 in the morning.

Speaker 1 (07:36):
It was real early, I mean we had just woken up to see
if we were going to go turkeyhunting.

Speaker 2 (07:52):
And the cool part- about this is is maria's wife
had.

Speaker 4 (07:54):
You're missing it all .
Jamie's wife maria, I'm sorry,jamie's wife maria, there was a
guitar on the walls and, yeah,I'm still is, it was there, dads
, that's what we do.

Speaker 1 (08:01):
I'll throw it back on a minute.
Give it to the dominant brother.

Speaker 2 (08:03):
The dominant brother, I don't care how the story goes
To my right it was just hangingup.
So Jamie's wife, maria, herfather played in bands and
gigged and was kind of an R&Bdude honestly like a soul guy in
Mississippi and a lot of that Rinfluence is kind of we're from

(08:25):
West Tennessee but it's rightwhere Mississippi and Alabama
and Tennessee all meet rightthere.

Speaker 1 (08:28):
We've got Memphis two hours west.
We've got the Shoals 45 minutessouth, nashville two and a half
hours, and then we're rooted inMississippi, so Blues.
Dad's a pastor and Rockabilly,so we've got that.

Speaker 2 (08:38):
Rockabilly was in Jackson, tennessee, and so all
these and country of course.

Speaker 1 (08:41):
Tons of influences right there.

Speaker 2 (08:42):
Yeah, all these different influences kind of got
in there on us, errol Worley'sfrom our hometown.

Speaker 1 (08:49):
Shout out D-Dub man, that's right Hardin.

Speaker 6 (08:53):
County.

Speaker 2 (08:53):
Yeah, that's where we're from.
So all of that kind of flowsthrough us and Jamie and I had a
funk country band for a longtime called Soul gravy.
That reed would come to theshows and he would get up there
and do songs and we just kind ofgrew up, really really grew up

(09:13):
on r&b and 70s rock and so allthat kind of influenced our
stuff.
And his dad or maria's dad getback to the story was in the
same kind of band, had died,left her that guitar.
It got hung up on the wall andI just picked it up and I was
like I don't know, let's justsee what this has got in it.
And literally that's the first.
That's the first thing, thatcame out just the first thing I
played was that oh man, and uhjay given, and yeah oh, 100

(09:37):
divine man yeah, it was.

Speaker 5 (09:38):
Jamie was like hey man, what's?

Speaker 2 (09:40):
what's that?
Dude?
I was like no idea.
I said I just, you know, Idon't know, just a little r&b
groove.

Speaker 1 (09:47):
And so we started talking about it and kind of
started writing it out and wewrote um, what half of it or
something, first course there,and then went to montana a
couple months later and finishedit with a retreat and we were
like hey, man, I think this iskind of a you know feel, this
feels good to us.

Speaker 2 (10:04):
It's, it's r&b, which he, whether he'll admit it or
not, is a natural R&B singer,like he's got, oh, he's got that
, he's got it, and we were justlucky enough to kind of write
the thing.

Speaker 9 (10:15):
Were you saving it for him.
Oh, totally, I mean after we'dso you had the verse and chorus
and you thought, hey, let's siton this and let's get it through
.

Speaker 1 (10:23):
We wrote it for him specifically.

Speaker 2 (10:25):
Well, him being our literal best friend, it was like
we kind of have aresponsibility almost to just go
hey man, before we finish this,if you want to.
And he was like, oh man, I'm in.
And we wrote the second versewith him and he even changed
some stuff in the first to kindof make it.
And the funniest part aboutthis story to me is it didn't
get cut.
Well, I remember him.

Speaker 1 (10:46):
We wrote it in this house in Montana and I remember
him we were doing the work tapeand he brought up a microphone
and we were trying to get a goodwork tape and he was getting so
frustrated because it's a lotof words, right, and you've got
to be familiar with it to get itin there, which is kind of how
we I love syncopation man, Ilove trying to get things in

(11:06):
there where, where it's normallynot, and so a lot of that song
is, there's a lot of stuff in it.
And I just remember him gettingreally frustrated trying to
sing this work tape and he'd belike god, let's do it again.
I was like, oh, my god, wetotally screwed up.

Speaker 2 (11:18):
It's a waste of a song.
We just wait.

Speaker 7 (11:20):
We're not gonna write anymore on this trip you this

Speaker 2 (11:23):
trip and, yeah, it didn't get cut and we were like
man, it's not even going to makethe record, and it was the one
we were the most excited about.

Speaker 3 (11:32):
It's a great song to have a song that's got that
immediate classic feel.
It makes you feel like ittranscends wherever you are in
decades, and it's really reallygreat job for a year.
Thank you, the crazy thing isis like it didn't feel.

Speaker 1 (11:50):
I mean, it felt special when you're writing that
kind of thing.
But it's, it's just, it'sanother day, right, like you're
just it's it's not another song,but it is another song.

Speaker 8 (11:57):
You're just, you're not doing anything different
that you've done, you're justthat's what you fell into that
day you could play that lick thenext day and nobody said a word
, absolutely, and and the timingof it for being honest, like
the hook.

Speaker 2 (12:09):
Wasn't that super strong?
You know what?
I mean, we tried to change it alot it wasn't like this
standout twisty kind of, it wasjust a straight down the middle.
This is what it is.
There was no tricks involved inthe hook which we were like, oh
no, it's kind of regular.

Speaker 3 (12:24):
But I think the feel of it is what really catapulted
it to to but I think too, thosehook though it may feel that way
to you, but for me I loved it.
It was like sometimes that'swhat people want they don't want
to think about just some yearsbeing on the road like you start
to see what people buy into andwhy they do it.
That's right, and sometimesthey don't want to have to

(12:46):
follow along with some twistright, it's like watching an m
night shamalan movie you're like, okay, what's the hook?
gonna be, they want to sing.
I just I want to see a goodpoint.
And then when I first heard iton there it was on the radio, I
think it just come out um melike a morning show was playing
it and I was like I was like itreminded me of a song we cut

(13:07):
years and years ago called noand it was.
It was, I think, a Wendell song, I think years ago on, I can't
remember, maybe maybe the secondrecord, the Aldine record, and
it had that really cool R and Bkind of Knicks for country thing
.

Speaker 2 (13:26):
You guys nailed that one.
That means a lot coming fromy'all.

Speaker 3 (13:27):
Seriously, I mean, but seriously that was a great
one thank you.

Speaker 1 (13:30):
Table of legends man.

Speaker 4 (13:31):
That means a lot well I mean besides Caleb, yeah the
guy with the most number one theguy with the most number one

Speaker 3 (13:40):
walking contradiction Caleb's very intimidating he
didn't hear me he's veryintimidating.

Speaker 9 (13:45):
He didn't hear me.
Did you hear what he said?
Because maybe we should get toit.

Speaker 1 (13:48):
I said, as some would say, a walking contradiction A
walking or a walking it could beeither it's not my words.

Speaker 9 (13:56):
Caleb, you were here, so we were talking about you I
don't know what Kurt's talkingabout.

Speaker 8 (14:03):
Caleb, it's funny you said walking contradiction,
because Kalo's.

Speaker 1 (14:04):
like really I didn't say it, just Kalo.
So you know, I didn't say it.
I didn't say it.

Speaker 6 (14:08):
You know I love you no no, no.

Speaker 4 (14:10):
Go to your co-writes.
Co-writes are gone.

Speaker 6 (14:13):
When you say walking.

Speaker 2 (14:22):
No, it's like I can talk about it.
He said walking contradictions.

Speaker 8 (14:25):
He's so militant in some things, but other things is
like.

Speaker 4 (14:31):
Look at that face.

Speaker 9 (14:33):
I don't know what it is, we were talking walking
contradictions.

Speaker 8 (14:36):
It's true, I'll agree .

Speaker 9 (14:40):
If you had to guess one thing that might be Not
militant, not militant, notmilitant.

Speaker 4 (14:46):
What would it be?

Speaker 2 (14:46):
This is so great.

Speaker 4 (14:48):
Well, it's not hand sanitizer, because that's no no,
very militant.

Speaker 9 (14:50):
That was mentioned about how good you are Very
militant, very clean 99.
What's the other?

Speaker 4 (14:54):
thing, oh, being on time, yeah Ding.

Speaker 9 (14:59):
This is like the newlywed game or something we
newlywed game, or something wedidn't?

Speaker 8 (15:02):
even have to.
Your three buds didn't evenhave to bring it up.
I thought it was going to besomething where I was kind of
looking over at Lana like okay,what are these guys doing?

Speaker 4 (15:09):
What do they know?

Speaker 1 (15:11):
My deep, dark secrets .
What does my Wikipedia page sayabout me?

Speaker 8 (15:14):
It's funny, the guy with the most number ones at the
table just sitting over theretaking it.

Speaker 4 (15:20):
Well, you know, you can make a lot of money playing
Costanza Jason.

Speaker 9 (15:23):
Alexander's rich too.

Speaker 4 (15:29):
He's not as rich as Seinfeld, but he's rich.
That's good.
Caleb, hey, I was going to askyou guys, just in being brothers
and I've got brothers andmentioning that that incredible
song was your first and yourthird Are you guys, were you
competitive growing up as kidsand are you competitive as
songwriters?
Are you keeping track Likewho's got the most number ones?

(15:50):
Yeah, you know.

Speaker 2 (15:51):
Honestly.
No, I mean, we were honestly.
You're not because you havemore.

Speaker 4 (15:55):
Yeah, good, one K-Lo.
No, I'm just curious.

Speaker 8 (15:59):
I'm just curious if there's any kind competition's
healthy, it's great well, here'sif the drive over here says
anything.

Speaker 1 (16:04):
Dan said he had something to do with a buddy of
ours next week.

Speaker 5 (16:08):
Then he had to cancel on me.

Speaker 1 (16:10):
He's got to cancel on me a co-ride because he's got
to go do something with a buddyof ours.
So the next 15 minutes nobodysaid anything.
How do you just navigate that?

Speaker 4 (16:19):
and the reason I picked up on it is on the
podcast.

Speaker 6 (16:21):
You picked up on that .

Speaker 4 (16:22):
Well, on the podcast that y'all shot together, you
were leaving that podcast to goright, you're talking about the
one that I was on.
And you weren't, and I sawsomething kind of just you
shifted or something.
I thought that bugs him.
That bugs him.

Speaker 6 (16:38):
I didn't even know it did.

Speaker 7 (16:40):
That's amazing.
But I wonder, I don't know, Idon't know.

Speaker 5 (16:42):
Are you a therapist?

Speaker 3 (16:45):
He didn't even know.

Speaker 6 (16:46):
Dan, and he knew that .

Speaker 4 (16:47):
That's Kilo, that's Kilo.
I just wonder.

Speaker 2 (16:50):
I'm very observant.
Somebody's paying attention.

Speaker 9 (16:52):
That's actually.
It is a great question.
It's a great question.

Speaker 1 (16:56):
We did have Neil on our podcast and it was the worst
performing podcast we had.

Speaker 9 (16:59):
Just so you know, that's not true.

Speaker 4 (17:02):
That was a great podcast and y'all singing
together.
That was killer.
Y'all's harmony and everythingin your playing was really great
.
It was actually fantastic.

Speaker 2 (17:12):
I will say this about that podcast my wife, she
listens to all of them.
We don't listen to them becausewe just don't want to hear
ourselves talk.

Speaker 1 (17:20):
I can't believe anybody listens to them she said
this to me.

Speaker 2 (17:23):
She said you know what my dad said earlier?
I was like no.
And she said he loves NeilThrasher, was so excited about
hearing him sing and then by theend of it he was just going.
Well, they didn't even let himsing, they sang over him the
whole time.

Speaker 4 (17:36):
I couldn't hear him do one thing.
You're like Daddy, what aboutme?
What did we say about you?

Speaker 9 (17:41):
It's like when you go to a concert and everybody's
singing at the top of theirlungs, I'm like bro, I want to
hear the artist.
That's exactly what it's like.

Speaker 2 (17:49):
We have a tendency to do that, especially if we get
really excited about the songsor about the singer or about
getting to harmonize withsomebody.
We love it and we grew up inchurch, so we're always picking
different parts and it's justfun for us to kind of do.

Speaker 1 (18:09):
That's where we learned our our heart.
Did you guys fight when youwere young?
Yeah, well, no, not really.
I mean not really dan wasalways.

Speaker 2 (18:11):
I was the size of that coca-cola cup for until
ninth grade.

Speaker 1 (18:13):
This is a perfect segue into the actual question
of whether or not I was this bigand shaving and dan was
touching the backboard in secondgrade, my dad, always likes to
say that my older sister cameout and she was so cute and had
a little nose and was just sosweet.

Speaker 2 (18:30):
And he says and then Dan came out looking for a
sandwich and needed a shave.
It was just a totally differentdeal, reed and I.
He was small and he was fouryears younger.
I'm four years older.
I was fast son, I was fast yearsyounger I'm four years older
and so, honestly, there wasn'tmuch competitive.

(18:52):
I mean, we were competitive andlike playing mario and stuff
like that, but as far as uh justjust wanting him to excel or me
to excel, we were alwaysrooting each other on.
And then, and this is nodifferent, honestly we're we're
constantly trying to.
Uh, you know, I mean, we'redefinitely autonomous in this in
the sense of, like, we don'twrite together every day.
Could you define on top?

Speaker 3 (19:11):
guys, what does?

Speaker 1 (19:12):
it mean this guy will know his month of the year I
played bass, everybody back upand split that into a couple
different words.

Speaker 2 (19:22):
Jeez, guys, I'm not a word.
Basically, we're able tosurvive without having to have
each other and I like to thinkthat Reed stands on his own feet
just as I stand on mine, butwe're constantly rooting for
each other and if there's a wayto you know he helps me out
sometimes on stuff, I help himout sometimes at stuff.

Speaker 6 (19:53):
But listen there's nobody in the world that I want
to

Speaker 9 (19:55):
be that much more or less successful than me, I'm
just kidding.

Speaker 1 (19:57):
I'm totally fine with him.
Game's still going, by the way.
It doesn't matter.
The game never ends.

Speaker 8 (20:02):
And I'll tell you what really changed that.

Speaker 2 (20:03):
If it was just me and him on our own yeah, I would be
wanting to beat him, but thefact that he's got, you know, my
nieces and nephews and I've gotnieces and nephews for him, it
just completely has dissipatedto the point to where we're just
happy to see each other, youknow, succeed.
Yeah, man, that's great tryingto tackle the podcast and, and

(20:26):
you know I, we, we love workingtogether.
Tell them about the fight, thefight we got in front of jordan.

Speaker 1 (20:29):
Oh, yes, that was good, oh yeah, well, you know
the the flow of a podcast, right, and it's probably different
with you guys because there'sfour of you, but but there's
there's two of us and and so,anyway, we had a guest on and I
felt like I was.
We have sheets, my wife is ourmanager and she runs all that
and and then like shout out toher she's a rock star, right,
like she, she does everything,she's the reason why the podcast

(20:49):
.
So, after the podcast, like Ifelt like in that podcast there
were a lot of those awkward likesomebody get done, like our
guests would get done sayingsomething, and I and I just
asked the question this is alsothe morning after we played the
duck camp and drove four hoursback.

Speaker 2 (21:08):
So reach tired, Running on about four hours of
sleep apiece Good information.

Speaker 1 (21:13):
Shoulders hurting shot a bunch of ducks.
Yeah, heads up.
So anyway, the guests wouldquit talking and usually Dan
would boom, he's right therewith a well, solo, tell me about
this or that.

Speaker 2 (21:24):
So a guy would quit talking and I'd be like that's
awesome man, I'll be the guest.
This is how awkward it was.

Speaker 8 (21:32):
Well no, I'm the guest, yeah, end a sentence End
with like a story.

Speaker 2 (21:36):
Well, ask me a question first, Like where I'm
from.

Speaker 1 (21:39):
This is pretty much what it was.
Ask me from, ask me where I'mfrom.
Hey man, where are you from?
Uh?
Lynchburg, cool uh.
And so there's a lot of thatit's like one of the first.
It was one of the first timesand so, like after the podcast
was over, I was like I was likeI was just.
We were sitting there, new guyray is back here, that's our
sound guy and my wife, jordan,shout out new guy ray, free

(22:01):
loops.
And uh, and we were sittingthere and I was like I just had
to say it.
I was like, hey, man, before wego any further, we had to cut
the intro.
I was like do the intro.
I was like Dan.
I was like, hey, man, I needsome help on navigating these
things.

Speaker 2 (22:17):
It's funny because I don't remember it being that
calm.

Speaker 1 (22:20):
No, I know, because all you saw was taylor swift red
dog you just went crazy you got.

Speaker 6 (22:25):
You got something like oh, you need some help.
Huh, you need some help, I needsome help doing this.

Speaker 4 (22:29):
I carried this show nine times out of ten, bro, it
was I was like I love you guys.

Speaker 1 (22:34):
It's like I just killed his dog man I mean it no
no but it handled it and then we, then we cut the intro, we cut
the intro and I was like hey bro, my bad man.

Speaker 2 (22:47):
At the end of the intro he said hey man, I
shouldn't have come at you likethat.
And immediately I was like dude, I shouldn't have blown up.

Speaker 1 (22:55):
God, hell, we're sweet.
He's like I'll help you.
I'll take that in, count andtry to help you.

Speaker 2 (23:00):
That happened about it was that Jordan, his wife,
had apparently never seen uslike bulldog, like that, and so
she walked up after we had kindof, hey, man, it's all good.
And I said, dude, I know you'vegot a ton of things going on
and that's usually your role andI'm trying to do the creative
thing at the same time.
And it's a bounce back andforth.

(23:20):
And I said, man, I'm sorry, mypart's creative bro.

Speaker 6 (23:24):
I'm sorry, my part's creative bro, I'm not saying
it's not good.

Speaker 2 (23:27):
I said I'll apologize and I'll try to do a better job
of filling those holes.
And I said it's not as awkwardas you think, but I hear what
you're saying, I hear you, youknow.
And so his wife gets up andwalks over and she goes.
Hey guys, I'm real proud ofy'all.

Speaker 3 (23:41):
That was a really nice thing that just happened
and I was like what?
I'm real proud of y'all.

Speaker 2 (23:44):
That was a really nice thing, that just happened.
And I was like what I'm justhugging out the way that you
guys you know the thing thathappened and then you guys did
the thing to work the thing outand I was like, oh man, we've
been doing that since we wereliterally first grade 20, 25
years, man, you get mad you dukeit my life and I apologize for
being a dick sometimes.
You know what I mean.

(24:04):
It's just kind of a languageyou move on.

Speaker 3 (24:07):
Around here we just go down with the ship, yeah.

Speaker 7 (24:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (24:09):
Yeah, we just go down with it.

Speaker 8 (24:14):
You and Tully and Kurt used to fight when they
were young.

Speaker 9 (24:19):
Well, unlike you, guys, we are not autonomous or
whatever Hebrew word you use.

Speaker 7 (24:26):
I still don't know what that word means.

Speaker 6 (24:29):
On top of us O-N T-O-M.

Speaker 8 (24:35):
It's on top of us, y'all told the story before when
y'all got into it.
I think the Brothers Hunt needto hear it.

Speaker 9 (24:43):
I mean, even though we are not blood brothers, we
are brothers.
We've been with each other forhow many years?

Speaker 1 (24:49):
So you guys are a couple?
That's cute.
What's that?
I don't know.
If you guys were a couple, Idon't know, if they got married,
we're partners.

Speaker 7 (24:54):
Is there anything wrong with that?

Speaker 8 (24:55):
None, I guess.
Yeah, there's a lot.

Speaker 9 (25:09):
But what I was gonna say is that, because of what I
thought, that was a greatquestion.
They didn't really answer it,but okay it was fair tolly and I
got to a point.
You know, we started writing,we wrote together some and then
sometimes we didn't totally getsa big dirks cut and I'm like,
cool bro, happy for you, I'm nothappy for you, no, you're not
we've been together a reallylong.

(25:30):
We've been together a reallylong time and it kind of started
our all for one method startedwith rich back in the day rich
redmond, jason strummer, welived together band house, that
whole thing.
If somebody called tully for asession, you'd be like, cool,
yeah, but you gotta hire richand kurt, yeah, it was always

(25:50):
that.
So anyway, we ended up startingto write together.
We write together exclusively.
Now it's like oh, somebodycalls tully to write, well, me
and kurt.
So how do you guys navigatethat?
How do you navigate that andsay, well, yeah, we're gonna do
it together this time, or youdon't?

Speaker 2 (26:08):
if it was up to me, we would write together all the
time, yeah so you don't want towrite together no doubt I'll
admit that.
Yeah, absolutely, the, the, the.
I think the thing thatseparates it is I started four
years before he started, so I Istarted earlier and I
established some relationshipsthat are different from his.

Speaker 9 (26:29):
Okay, go back to that because that's great.
I think people love to know.
So did you move to town first?
I did, Okay.

Speaker 2 (26:33):
So I had a funk country band called Soul Gravy,
which was— you have to work upto the boat.

Speaker 8 (26:38):
Okay, Work up to the boat and you're all living on
the boat boat and y'all livingon the boat?

Speaker 1 (26:46):
sure hold on.
You lived on a boat for fouryears.

Speaker 8 (26:47):
Yeah, we did.
We dropped christmas treesunder it to catch crappie off.
They have to do that.

Speaker 9 (26:49):
So writing songs on the boat, oh my god, maybe we
need to fast forward.
I'll fast forward real quick.

Speaker 2 (26:53):
Okay.
So I had a fun country bandreed failed physics, told me at
a show.

Speaker 1 (26:59):
He was moving to nashville and I was like great,
come on, I doctor, I've time forschool, is out him to school.
He's out of the question.
He's like a second.
I failed physics for the secondtime.

Speaker 5 (27:05):
Literally I'm like some people call us the space
cowboy.
You know like I'm doing thisthing and he's like man.

Speaker 2 (27:11):
From the front row.
I was like what Dude, I'm inthe thing.
He's like I failed chemistry.
Okay, he's like just broke upwith my girlfriend.
I was like all right man, likeokay, I got to finish the second
verse.
And then he's like I'm movingto Nashville.
I was like dude, we'reliterally riding home together.

Speaker 6 (27:33):
We can talk about all of this after I get through
this stuff.
He's like we're going to besongwriters.

Speaker 2 (27:40):
I was like dude, okay .
So all that to say, I came totown, established some
relationships, started ridingand with my band Reed comes up.
We can't afford anythingbecause we have no money.
Yeah, we move to a boat onPercy Priest.
The slip rent was $400.
We split it $200 apiece.

Speaker 9 (28:01):
This isn't like a boats and hoes boat, it's a
small boat.

Speaker 2 (28:05):
I boat it's a small boat.
I mean it's a small boat.

Speaker 1 (28:08):
It was a 36-foot carver, so I literally lived
there.

Speaker 2 (28:11):
You can do the math on that.

Speaker 1 (28:13):
Dan got the seven-foot bedroom in the back.

Speaker 2 (28:15):
I got the.

Speaker 1 (28:16):
V-hole.

Speaker 4 (28:16):
Of course, and he's the dominant brother, he's the
dominant Danament.

Speaker 2 (28:21):
Maybe I'm a little danament, that's amazing, the
funny.
Maybe I'm a little adamant,that's amazing, the funny thing
about that.

Speaker 1 (28:25):
We moved furniture to make ends meet.
On the side, we washed ourclothes in the YMCA showers.

Speaker 2 (28:30):
We joined the YMCA because they had a thing where
they would base it on yoursalary.

Speaker 1 (28:34):
They would base it on your salary so, dude, we were
paying like 50 cents, I think Ireported I made like 400 dollars
that year because we weren'tmaking anything.

Speaker 6 (28:42):
That's amazing though .

Speaker 2 (28:42):
That's amazing.
We would wear all our clothesor take a bag and just stuff all
our dirty clothes in there andgo to the YMCA in Donaldson, and
we wouldn't even work out.
We might play a littlebasketball or something and we'd
go straight to the showers andthere would be two showers and
we'd just be in there washingour clothes.

Speaker 1 (29:01):
I used half a roll of toilet paper in that thing
because you couldn't on the boat.

Speaker 6 (29:04):
You had to be very selective.

Speaker 2 (29:07):
I was paying for that one.

Speaker 3 (29:09):
You held it for the YMCA that reminds me of a Not to
interrupt, but it reminds me ofa great Same thing.
We were in a very strugglingband in 2002 and 2003 called
Rushlow.
We had one hit, second song'sdying and someone told us well,
if you go to the cracker barrelin a hermitage, then if you show

(29:34):
your laminate, you're an artist.
If you're an artist, you getfree breakfast.
What I forget?
This is true, yeah, so we'relike no shit.
Hell, yeah, we're like well.
Well, we need free food.
We had negative money.

Speaker 6 (29:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (29:46):
And so I remember we got our lammets on and our show
clothes.

Speaker 6 (29:51):
We come down to the Cracker Barrel Show clothes.

Speaker 3 (29:54):
Oh, show clothes.

Speaker 1 (29:54):
Hair, Hair down Hair Guitars on the back oh don't
Just holding it.

Speaker 6 (30:00):
So you had a shirt with a buck pearl on it.

Speaker 2 (30:01):
No, we did, we heard it.

Speaker 3 (30:02):
We're like we got to go to Cracker Barrel and eat for
free, and this is how come wedidn't know about this
Monumental?

Speaker 1 (30:07):
yeah.

Speaker 3 (30:07):
So we get in our show clothes, do our hair, we pull
in that Cracker Barrel right offStewart's Ferry.

Speaker 1 (30:16):
Oh yeah, you know it, that's where we were.

Speaker 3 (30:25):
We were at Percy Priest right there in the hill
marina.
That's right where we live.
Yeah, we walk in with ourlaminates, we sit down, we order
a bunch of food and the billcomes.
And we look at her and we lookat that.

Speaker 9 (30:31):
It's like wayne's world.

Speaker 3 (30:33):
Wow, but have you seen this?
And I remember her saying honey, what is that?
I was like this is our laminate.

Speaker 5 (30:42):
You know what do you mean we're looking at it like
sweat's beating

Speaker 3 (30:48):
down hearts pounding.
We I mean, we didn't have 15between us, you know and um, we
didn't get it for free,unfortunately, but we got a
discount because we had no extramoney.
I remember putting thatlaminate out there like read it
and wait, look at that, helloladies, look at that, hello
girls but anyway, continue.

(31:08):
But that reminded me of that,of that, you know, ymca kind of
stuff, like like whatever yougot to do whatever you got to do
yeah, absolutely choice andthat was honestly kind of fun,
until we got serious girlfriendsyou know like.

Speaker 2 (31:22):
Well, it was just me and him, we were just fine and
made a way made work.

Speaker 1 (31:25):
I tell people all the time I'm, you know, when you're
, when you're 21 and and youtell a girl you live on your
dad's houseboat and at atcollege, at mtsu, when you're,
you're working intramurals.

Speaker 8 (31:36):
They're like oh, that's cool.
I was going to say it seemslike it sounds cool.

Speaker 5 (31:39):
He's like I was on my dad's houseboat.

Speaker 3 (31:41):
But when?

Speaker 1 (31:42):
you're 27 and you move furniture for a living and
you're a struggling songwriterand you tell a girl you live on
your dad's houseboat.
They're gone.

Speaker 9 (31:49):
You know that ain't cool, no more.
I'm telling you, rich, tullyand I lived together for so long
, oh my God, at a frat house,basically.
Tully got married and we forcedhim to still live with us
because we needed the rent bro.

Speaker 3 (32:07):
I was married for a whole year before I moved out.
We were on the road Probably250 days a year, you know, but
we all we had a.
So you weren't living thereanyway, we had a rental house in
hermitage where we each had ourown level.
Yeah, you know which was anightmare, because it was a
cul-de-sac of a familyneighborhood in hermitage and

(32:27):
then three of the biggestscrew-ups you could ever imagine
rolling through there.
But I remember I got married in06 and we we'd been living
together for years at that point.
And the same thing, like trytelling people oh yeah, I live
with my two best friends.
Yeah, you know, we're not 18.

Speaker 9 (32:45):
Right, no, I was in my thirties at that point.

Speaker 2 (32:49):
We lived with our parents for a while and he used
to say he had a flat with someroommates in colombia and it was
just our mom and dad oh Iappreciate it.
He's like yeah, I got a studioflat down here in colombia and
it was like just the upstairs ofour mom and dad, you didn't
feel any, any guilt for thoselies at all.

Speaker 8 (33:05):
Hell, no, no, no.

Speaker 6 (33:06):
I lied I lied to her oh, my place in la is super nice
.

Speaker 1 (33:10):
Yeah, yeah, I had a place in malibu for years karen,
going back to how you to yousay how do y'all navigate that
with writing and doing that?
Man, I've got two kids of myown now.
I've got a little girl, she'stwo, and then I got a little boy
.
He's one and watching my littleboy, even like last night, like

(33:30):
if he looks up and sees hissister, his older sister, who's
super independent, makes her owndecisions and what she wants to
do, what toy she wants to playwith, whatever, what movie she
wants to watch, when he looks,if he's doing something, he
looks up and he sees her, he'sgonna get up and go do that.
And and so I was in a positionwhere I thought I wanted to be
an optometrist, I thought Iwanted to work in savannah

(33:52):
what's up?

Speaker 3 (33:52):
Wait, wait.

Speaker 6 (33:54):
What is that?

Speaker 3 (33:54):
Can you break that down?

Speaker 6 (33:55):
Okay, thank you.

Speaker 1 (33:59):
Man.
Songwriting was never, honestlyand I've told this on our
podcast songwriting was never adream of mine.
Honestly, I didn't startwriting songs until I was in
college.
I didn't even know how to playthe guitar.
I taught myself how to play theguitar in college because I
knew I was going to fail physicsagain and and and what.
What was option b?
It was?
It was either stay there andand get some bullshit degree or

(34:22):
move to Nashville and and hangout with your brother and and
figure out what he and and look,watch what he's doing and and
it looks cool and fun, and andand who else in this world do I
want to be around you, you know,besides him, and it's always
been that way, and so even now,like with him having more hits
than I do, or whatever, likeI've always looked up to him and

(34:44):
I've always chased him and ofcourse I want to catch him and
of course I want to have moresongs on the radio than he does,
but like he's always beensomething that I'm trying to be
and he's still that, even inlife.

Speaker 5 (34:58):
Wear the Kleenex.

Speaker 1 (35:02):
Even as a dad, even as a songwriter even as a
landowner whatever it is.
Like man, I appreciate the hefires me up to go get what I
want and what he has.

Speaker 2 (35:14):
And I tell him that all the time.
I want him to get it and he'llget it.
He's getting it.

Speaker 1 (35:18):
Yeah, I want to get it, absolutely, you are getting
it.

Speaker 2 (35:20):
I mean, I think it's just.
You know, it's a timing thingand we're going to have each
other's back regardless.

Speaker 3 (35:26):
Well, being pushed though in this business is a
healthy thing, oh absolutelyAin't no doubt Got to keep the
fire going right.
It's to try to, because youknow how it is like when you
have success you want to get tothe next thing, never rest.

Speaker 2 (35:39):
No doubt Never stop.

Speaker 1 (35:40):
Game's never over man .

Speaker 3 (35:41):
So being pushed is super I think super healthy yeah
.

Speaker 9 (35:44):
I agree.
It's great.
I agree, that's awesome.
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Speaker 3 (37:22):
Neil, you doing the full harmony.

Speaker 9 (37:25):
You guys might want to lower the key for Neil.

Speaker 4 (37:28):
I learned don't step on Tully's harmony.
It's going to be hell to pay.

Speaker 6 (37:57):
Oh, let's go.
So I've been thinking we'reneeding a little time alone.
So what you say, we cancel ourplan Tonight.
I'm only gonna be your man.
Let's get some candles burning,some records turning all the
lights down low.
Take it nice and slow the wayyour body's moving.

(38:20):
Keep doing what you're doing tome, all night long, writing our
love song.
Girl, I want it, gotta have it.
Let the passion take us to aplace Making that kind of love
we made.
Let's go Bring it in.
That kind of love we made.

(38:42):
Making that kind of love wemade.
I love that song.

Speaker 9 (38:50):
I love that song.
I love that song.
Dang, you're a singing song.

Speaker 6 (38:54):
Thanks man, I wouldn't sing.

Speaker 7 (38:55):
Thanks man, You're a love singer.
Thanks man, you ain't fooling,I love it song.
I love that song Dang you're asinging song.

Speaker 1 (38:56):
Thanks, man, I wouldn't sing, he's a love
singer.

Speaker 8 (38:57):
Thanks man, I love that song.

Speaker 3 (38:59):
I appreciate it, Damn it.

Speaker 7 (39:00):
we should have wrote that one he don't play.

Speaker 8 (39:01):
Everyone don't play.

Speaker 9 (39:03):
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Like seriously, we love theseguys, we champion what they do,
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Thank you, guys for being here.

Speaker 2 (39:21):
Same brother, thanks for having us man, absolutely,
it's an honor.

Speaker 9 (39:24):
I heard you guys.
I got to ask this because youkind of struck a it isn't a
nerve.

Speaker 2 (39:29):
Don't say cord.
Don't say cord.
No, this is it.

Speaker 9 (39:32):
But you guys said your dad's a preacher, right,
Correct, that's right.
So I grew up in church big timeSunday, Wednesday, Friday all
the time right.
You went.

Speaker 2 (39:40):
Fridays.
He said Sunday, wednesday,friday.
I didn't know you had Fridays,dude.

Speaker 9 (39:43):
Actually, I'll be honest it was every day of the
week because we were just thatinvolved.
Yeah, but all the preacher'skids I knew were usually the
most wild, slightly rebellious.
That only goes for the girls,especially the girls.
But no, seriously that's a highstandard to live to.

Speaker 7 (40:04):
We got two sisters that one fell flat.

Speaker 9 (40:09):
Was that hard being the Preacher's kids, or were you
on the wild side?

Speaker 1 (40:19):
I feel like I've talked too much.
Definitely, um, and honestly,no, uh, we, we knew we lived in
a glass house, you know, and andand my dad was, was the type of
of authority figure where mybuddies didn't want to come to
my house because, one, he wastheir preacher, two, they were
scared of him, and and so, likemy dad was very straight-laced,
you're gonna do this, uh, do itmy way, um, and so, man, we were

(40:43):
just taught, you know young, toto do the right thing, um, to
to be this kind of of person andbe this kind of christian, and
and, of course, man, we, westrayed a little bit and and did
our own thing you're humanstill yeah absolutely still make
mistakes and all that.
But but, um man, I it, it reallyfor me.
I can't speak for dan, you know, but but for me it.

(41:04):
It wasn't that hard to be apreacher's kid.
I honestly took a little pridein it because, you know, like my
dad was well respected in thecommunity and and and I was, I
was proud to be an israel forsure, yeah ditto ditto.

Speaker 9 (41:19):
That got it.

Speaker 2 (41:20):
Sorry, I'm not trying to leave you hanging, I just
think he kind of answered thequestion yeah that's amazing,
which is why you guys turned outthe way you did well, look, man
, we're not, we're, we're no,you got good, you got good rear
I appreciate it we're raising,yeah, we raised right.

Speaker 8 (41:33):
You make good decisions.
You know when you make a baddecision.

Speaker 2 (41:36):
Well, you know, I think that's one thing that I
want to make sure my kidsunderstand is that your actions,
you know, have consequences andI don't want them to lose that
because you know, we understoodthat if we made a wrong choice,
I mean that that affectedeverything and everyone, and

(41:57):
there wasn't no way you weregetting away with nothing in
savannah, tennessee dude.
Yeah, but you really ain'tgetting away with nothing now, I
mean with everybody havingphones and cameras and all that
stuff, and so we just kind ofgot to a place, honestly, where
we were like, okay, for the goodof ourselves and the good of
our family, we're going to tryto be stand-up individuals and
do it the right way.
And I'm going to be honest withyou even in this business, I
feel like doing it the right wayhas given me a career, instead

(42:20):
of a flash in the pan, quick,quick deal.
You know, treating people rightand uh and being honest about
things even in tough situations,uh, I think has given us.

Speaker 1 (42:32):
Yeah, man, it's standing your ground right, like
, like, like um, believing inyour convictions and working.
You know, not changing.
This town is constantlychanging right, and there's
people, like Dan said, there'sflash in the pans and this is
the cool thing today and this isthe cool thing tomorrow, man,
but we were raised to believe inwhat we believe in and stand up

(42:52):
for it, and if you do that, youcan't go wrong.

Speaker 2 (42:55):
We've been some desperate sons of a guns.
I ain't going to lie.
We've chameleoned our way inMaybe the houseboat years
Exactly.

Speaker 4 (43:02):
I grew up on a lake.
Lake people are different.

Speaker 9 (43:03):
The houseboat years that she knows Art.

Speaker 3 (43:07):
You guys should do a houseboat session.

Speaker 9 (43:12):
Actually it's not a bad idea actually not a bad idea
.

Speaker 7 (43:17):
you should do a podcast from the boat I really I
really love that hearing that,though, like it reminds me of
like people are different allthose years of like when we were
here years and years agotogether.

Speaker 3 (43:25):
And and what you go through and this is true when
you have success it makes thestruggle you.
You look back on it and yourealize why that struggle
happened absolutely no doubtthat everything happens deepens
the well.

Speaker 2 (43:38):
I say that all the time it's so it's such a
positive thing.

Speaker 3 (43:40):
I think you know, seeing seeing your way through
that through the other side, butbeing able to look back on the
struggle, it makes you, um, justreally appreciate for sure
right now right and and like Ialso.

Speaker 1 (43:56):
I think about it now that I have kids too, like you
think about you know whereyou're at now.
You think about when you, when,when we were living on a
houseboat or whatever, but likesuccess now started when we were
young stop tapping the table.

Speaker 8 (44:09):
It didn't drive me, sorry, sorry that's why my golf
game got good, because I didn'teven hear that I'm undistracted.

Speaker 1 (44:23):
I'm a firm believer that your success starts way
back and not when you move totown.
Those decisions that you makewhen you're young affect you now
.
Like we were saying, man, wewere, we were raised right and
and, and you know, I think we're.

Speaker 2 (44:41):
We're where we're at because of because of that it
wasn't always roses on thathouseboat.

Speaker 1 (44:45):
For the record we were not there was.
It sounds like roses there wassome public land around the?

Speaker 2 (44:50):
uh, I know it wasn't, it's okay there was some public
land around the lake and wekilled turkeys and bees Let me
guess you didn't have a permiteither, Top 94.
The first time I didn'tactually he got me, but they can
only give you a warning there.
I don't know if I'm supposed tosay that.

Speaker 8 (45:02):
No, you can say it all.
Okay, you can.

Speaker 2 (45:04):
I've been busted man.

Speaker 8 (45:05):
Isbell.

Speaker 2 (45:06):
And I was like, ooh, he already knows my name.
I was like uh-oh.
I was like how far is that lakeand how far I got to swim to
get back to the boat.
I said yes, sir, and he saidman.
He said I heard you shoot.
I was over on the bridgechecking some licenses and he
said he said man, big turkey.

Speaker 5 (45:37):
He was like I actually had it last year.

Speaker 2 (45:38):
He knew everything about me and apparently I hadn't
re-upped the top 94 on thesportsman that I've been paying
for for the past 20 years, andso I took the turkey back.
We ate turkey that week and wewould just eat deer meat, and we
would dock shot crappie andwe'd have a can of Del Monte
corn sitting in a pan.
The oven didn't work in theboat so we had to grill
everything.
We would eat that.
I remember there was one day.

Speaker 1 (45:59):
You got married, why We'd go to Cracker Barrel.
I'll tell you why I think aboutthose days a whole lot.
That same Cracker Barrel youcould for $2.49, you could get
six biscuits, dude, we'd eatthem all week, we'd get bags of
biscuits and butter and jellyand we'd bring them back and
we'd throw crappie turkey deeron those biscuits.

Speaker 8 (46:17):
We haven't talked about the four of us amongst,
but we've lived the same exactlife.
Yeah, man, I remember one day.

Speaker 2 (46:23):
I came in, it's exactly the same my piece of
crap car.
The roof was leaking.
I got canceled on four timesthat week and on the fourth time
I came back in and I walked inand Reed was down there cooking
crappie and Del Monte corn inthis pan.
For the 5,000th time and Iwalked in, dude, and I just come
in, I'm just, you know, I'mfour years older than him, right

(46:46):
?
And I just lay down on my tinylittle bed, which was like this
wide, and I'm sitting there andI, just like I was, I was
breaking down to to an extentand so I just pulled.
I couldn't get away fromanybody, there was nowhere to go
to hide, and so I pulled thecovers over my head and about
that time, the back of the boatdid this.

Speaker 9 (47:05):
whenever the boat did that, you knew somebody
stepping on my dad is thedoorbell and my dad comes down.

Speaker 2 (47:11):
He's like what's up, boys, because this is like his
dream.
He's back in college with hishomies.

Speaker 6 (47:17):
I was like damn, we got coffee on the ground.

Speaker 7 (47:19):
All you got here just in time Grizzlies come on at 7.
Hip hop is fun.

Speaker 2 (47:25):
He's like yeah, we had direct TV.

Speaker 1 (47:27):
I hooked up a satellite.

Speaker 8 (47:29):
We were stealing direct TV.

Speaker 1 (47:31):
Stealing internet and direct TV.

Speaker 2 (47:40):
So the boat rocked and my dad stepped down.
He's like, hey, reed, where'sdan?
And I was like under the covers, you know, like trying not to
lose it.
He's like, oh, he's, he's.
He's down in his room and mydad's opinion was, damn, what's
going on, man?
I brought pork steak, you know,and I was like dad, honestly,
dude, like I'm just kind of Ijust need my space right now,
like can you just give me asecond?
He's like what's going on withDad Reed?
What's going on, reed?

(48:00):
He's like I don't know.
We're living the life and I,finally, I just ripped the cover
back and I was like you want toknow what's going on?
Here's with some flashy wordsand I said I'm 30 years old, I
don't have a thing to stand on,I don't have a dollar to my name
, my buddies are buying trucks,houses, getting cuts left and
right and bragging about it onInstagram, and I just got

(48:22):
canceled on for the fourth timethis week and my sunroof leaks.
I don't know what's happeningin my life.
I don't know why I'm chasingthis dream.
I don't see anything comingdown the pipe and, to be quite
frank, I'm exhausted.
I live on a boat with my dadand my croppy cooking brother

(48:48):
and I'll tell you, man, I'd goback to that moment all the time
what'd he say?
though what'd your dad say?
Oh, you're all right, you'regonna be fine, man, you've got
family, you got everything youknow, and he was right.
Yeah, he was right.
And I'll tell you, man, whenpeople sorry man, I'm catching a
little catch my throat here-sorry might have been good for
now do it uh, when people say,man, it's crazy how this just

(49:10):
all fell in your lap.
I think about that brother, Ithink about that night, yeah,
yeah, and I think about the, thesacrifice, and even though I
had my brother to do it with andI'm not saying people didn't
have harder roads than I didthey do um, but man, that's what
.
That's why I appreciate, uh,when I, when a song gets cut,
and I appreciate when I a goodco-write comes down the pipe and

(49:32):
when we have our first numberone together.
You know, like that kind oflove we make was incredible to
go.
Wow, we did it together.
You know, and it's special andand and you're right, the
struggle, and I tell you, I dipinto that well, all the time
when I'm writing, because, andif I didn't have that well to to
reach in and grab from, I don'tknow what kind of songs I'd be

(49:54):
writing to this day and.
I know that's long, I'm sorry.

Speaker 9 (49:56):
No, no, no, that's actually powerful.
It's so good that's absolutelypowerful, so give people the
light.
What was the breakthroughmoment?

Speaker 2 (50:10):
There were a few, there were some cuts, that there
were some.
Honestly, there were somepeople that really invested us
as songwriters, casey Beathardbeing one of those.

Speaker 9 (50:18):
Oh, casey, yeah, One of those guys.

Speaker 5 (50:20):
Jason Matthews.

Speaker 2 (50:21):
Michael.

Speaker 1 (50:22):
Haney.
Yeah, Jonathan Singleton.

Speaker 2 (50:24):
He's from West Tennessee, where we're from, so
he would throw us a ride.

Speaker 1 (50:28):
Travis Hill, Frank Liddell man, there's tons of
people.
That was my first deal was overthere.

Speaker 8 (50:33):
I feel bad.
You never called me and Kalobecause y'all didn't call.

Speaker 1 (50:37):
That's right, kalo don't even remember that we
wrote one time.

Speaker 2 (50:39):
I just met him.

Speaker 4 (50:41):
No, you reminded me downstairs.
Now I remember, in fairness, wedidn't finish the song.

Speaker 1 (50:46):
Kalo's like we met on the golf course.

Speaker 6 (50:48):
We did, we wrote.

Speaker 7 (50:51):
No but we didn't finish it.

Speaker 1 (50:52):
I thought, you were going to send it to Brad.

Speaker 9 (50:55):
You never did of course.

Speaker 4 (51:01):
Are you?

Speaker 8 (51:01):
on time for your tee times.
I will generally get there.
Yes, that's a fantasticquestion.
He would make tee times Okay,that's interesting.

Speaker 4 (51:06):
I would roll up, you know, and I knew I'd be the
fourth one, you know, so I'djust roll right up.

Speaker 9 (51:12):
Don't hit a ball.
They don't even flip a tee.
You're just the fourth guy totake off.

Speaker 2 (51:15):
Is he as good as you?

Speaker 4 (51:16):
No oh.

Speaker 2 (51:17):
Neal's a man.
Those guys are good, we playtogether.

Speaker 4 (51:24):
Are you like Reed's?

Speaker 2 (51:24):
a good player, reed can play.

Speaker 8 (51:26):
These two guys can play, yeah.

Speaker 9 (51:27):
Y'all are are you scratch or close?
I'm working on it.

Speaker 1 (51:33):
I'm trying me.
Me and neil could.
We could.
We could do some damage.
You could do some damage.

Speaker 9 (51:37):
I'm about 18 oh, yeah , yeah, we, so we can hang.
Yeah, we can, you can?

Speaker 8 (51:43):
tell dan what to do, but it doesn't.

Speaker 2 (51:45):
The the brain is a funny it's a funny muscle, so
I'm not doing what you'retelling me to do and you don't
know it's no, it's, it's notthat, it's the brain's a funny.

Speaker 8 (51:52):
I feel like I learned you.

Speaker 1 (51:53):
It all stems with athleticism.
I can tell you, people can tellyou what to do.

Speaker 2 (51:58):
Don't do that.
It's like K-Lo he's joggingthere.

Speaker 8 (52:00):
I'll tell you this about K-Lo Plaques over racks.
You know what I'm saying?
That's right, k-lo on the rangelooks and he hits shots that
I'm going, my God you know.
I'd give my left arm to hitshots like that every single

(52:21):
time.

Speaker 4 (52:21):
We don't have to talk about it, go on.

Speaker 8 (52:24):
But then we get on the course and it's like
everything tenses up.
I don't know how thisconversation went to golf, but
I'm glad to oblige you.
But Kalo has got whatever ittakes, but on the course, when
it matters, when you've got oneshot, it's like he starts
thinking about you know how didthat make you feel?
No, I'm not, I'm.

Speaker 7 (52:44):
Kalo.

Speaker 4 (52:45):
But he knows I'm right.
He knows I'm right, I'm on 18.
I'm trying to break 80.

Speaker 8 (52:50):
I'm sweating.
Right now, kalo will get on thetee box and, like you know, are
they looking at my calves.
What are they looking?
Are my shorts too tight?
Are they baggy?
He's thinking about everythingexcept the shot he's supposed to
hit.

Speaker 4 (52:59):
I stopped taking a practice swing and I still don't
because I was sitting therethinking all right, the three
guys behind me are wondering whyI'm taking a practice swing.

Speaker 2 (53:07):
Why are you taking a practice swing when you're going
to swing like that?
You're a real, a real-lifesongwriter, and so I just stop
taking a practice swing, and soI just get up there and go.

Speaker 4 (53:14):
So if you're going to be bad, don't be slow.

Speaker 8 (53:16):
That's right.
That's right.
Kalo used to be a four.
He used to be a four.
Handicap.

Speaker 1 (53:20):
That's strong Kalo.

Speaker 8 (53:21):
Yeah, for a minute.
He used to be a player For aminute.
I'll get back in it.

Speaker 3 (53:32):
Yeah, there's a sweet knife in the gut.

Speaker 4 (53:35):
You started it, you just said you started it.

Speaker 3 (53:39):
You said you sit here .

Speaker 4 (53:41):
Roll back the tape, Jim.
He said he used to be.

Speaker 1 (53:47):
I can see how this goes.
You guys are like the actualpodcasters and this is just the
clowns over here, Thank you,that's the weight.

Speaker 6 (53:53):
That's the color commentary.

Speaker 1 (53:59):
Y'all are me, they him.
Yeah, it's, it's, it's achallenge.
Y'all probably drive home andgo.

Speaker 7 (54:02):
God, I need some help , man, I need some help, you're
actually playing poker right now.

Speaker 9 (54:12):
Yeah, okay, so give uh, seriously give people a
little history.
How did the podcast happen?
Because you did have thebrother's hunt.
Was that just kind of like afor fun thing?

Speaker 2 (54:24):
yes, it was.
Yeah, we tried it and honestly,it was so much work we were
like we can't do, we did westarted, um, we started the
brother's hunt.

Speaker 1 (54:32):
Actually we were.
We were on the front porch ofour oh, I thought you were
referring to the pocket.
I'll get there, I'll speed itup but we started the brother's
hunt on the front porch of ourdeer camp in west tennessee,
which is, when I say deer camp,it's a, it's a fifth wheel
trailer with a built on two byfour front porch that we built
on with our dad, um, just justout of, you know, wanting to
film and wanting to travel theworld and and the world and see

(54:55):
the country and hunt differentanimals.

Speaker 2 (54:57):
We're also preaching ethics as well, yeah absolutely,
and that industry.

Speaker 8 (55:01):
As you kill turkeys at Percy Priest without a
license.

Speaker 2 (55:04):
I thought it was legal.

Speaker 8 (55:05):
Back to you, Reed.
I thought it was legal.

Speaker 7 (55:06):
Sweet.

Speaker 6 (55:12):
Dog my ass out, man.

Speaker 4 (55:14):
He didn't like that.
You didn't's not a podcaster?

Speaker 1 (55:17):
he most certainly is that industry at that time was
saturated with a lot of uh, lookwhat I did, you know, like,
like, I killed this animal.
That's all I did this.
It's you know, and, and wewanted to preach a you know a
more spiritual, a more ethicalway of doing it.

(55:38):
Uh, uh, it's an honor to beable to to do that the way our
dad raised yeah, man andoutdoors, and so.
so we started the brother's huntthere and and never really had
a goal for it, um, but it justkind of it kind of grew into
this thing and and, as in anashville thing where we made
some sweatshirts and peoplestarted wearing them, we met
Luke through it.
We met Luke through it and Lukegot involved.

Speaker 9 (56:00):
Oh, is that how you guys met Luke.

Speaker 2 (56:03):
I wrote a couple songs with him and he said hey,
man, I really want to learn howto hunt and fish like you guys
do it.
And I was like, okay, and atthis time there wasn't a whole
lot going on.

Speaker 9 (56:12):
Had he seen the Brother's Hunt?

Speaker 2 (56:14):
Yes, okay.
And so we were like okay, man,and we took him turkey hunting,
we took him deer hunting, andnow it's a full-blown
brotherhood.
We kind of have everythingtogether.

Speaker 1 (56:27):
But we started a podcast back then called the
Brother's Hunt Podcast and didit ourselves and edited
everything ourselves, and Iscrewed the audio up way too
many times to ever oh, we knowthat's like move forward with it
, you know, and so I mean notyou but we ended up so.
So, yeah, we met luke throughthat whole thing and and and we

(56:49):
turned luke on to meat eater andsteven ranella and and luke got
, this is got for the listeners.

Speaker 2 (56:55):
It's a lifestyle slash hunting entity show is
very popular, but now there's apodcast.

Speaker 1 (57:01):
Yeah, there's cooking , there's a whole thing
sponsored by PETA so Luke gotsuper obsessed with it almost,
and was reading all these booksthat Steven Ranella, cookbooks
and outdoor books, and watchingall the seasons and.
And so he came to us one dayand he was like hey, man, he's
like I want to, I want to get onthat show, man, and and Meteor
was a show at that time and andthey were, they were all going

(57:23):
into the season 10.
And he said I think I'm gonnahave Cappy and Meat Eater
respond and Rinella respond.
And they wrote him back.
They were like dude, we'd loveto have you on.
And so he called us, facetimedus one day he's like boys,
you'll never believe whathappened today.
And we were like what he waslike I got invited to be on

(57:45):
season 10 of Meat Eater and wewere like what, dude, that's
awesome.
Like congrats, man, that'sawesome, he goes.
Yeah, he said.
I told him I'd do it with onestipulation and we were like
well, what is it?
Well, and why, you know?
And he goes.
I told him that if I came, thebrother's hunt had to come.
And we were like what?
And he was like yeah, he's likewe're hunting antelope in New
Mexico with Meteor in August orSeptember, whatever it was.

(58:07):
So he literally took us outthere with Meteor.
We filmed meat eater.
We filmed a five day, you know,exclusive hunt on this
incredible ranch in new mexicoand or wyoming, and killed
awesome antelope.
And while we were there we did,we, we did a podcast with steve
as the meat eater podcast andand luke you know me, luke and
dan sitting there and and luke'sthe superstar.

(58:29):
But we ended up talking aboutsongwriting the whole time and
then the guys like steven andyannis were just infatuated with
what we did and how our brainsworked and how we craft a song
and why we craft a song and andthat kind of stuff and and and
so that went over so well it, Ithink it.
It it put something in steve'smind where he just started up
this, this conversation withhimself about doing, about

(58:52):
having a podcast, about thatthat he's growing the brand too
yeah, that intertwines huntingand music and songwriting,
country music and and I think asouthern lifestyle as well.

Speaker 2 (59:02):
You know they're kind of western based and so you
know to kind of come acrosscountry on that.

Speaker 1 (59:07):
Yeah and so he called , he called.
He ended up calling luke andtelling luke the idea and he was
like man, he's like I'mthinking about, you know, host
for this thing, and he was likeand, and I I think dan and reed,
and luke was like dude, dan andreed are the only ones that I
know in this town that could dothat.
And so we had a meeting and wewe told him you know what what
kind of our ideas on it and andjust kind of made this, uh, this

(59:29):
thing to to where it is now apartnership between the Brothers
Hunt and Meat Eater and iHeart.
Yeah, we're doing Season two.
I tell people all the time wedon't know what we're doing, but
maybe that's the trick.

Speaker 9 (59:42):
You guys are really good at what you do, I
appreciate it no 100%.
I mean, whether you actuallythink that or not, it's really
really good.
Thanks, man, Back at you, yeahback at you man.
It's really really good.
Thanks, man, back at you.

Speaker 4 (59:54):
Yeah, back at you, man, and y'all do play off each
other really well and you cantell you have a love for each
other, which we're learning moreabout tonight.
But it's really, really, really, really good, thank you, man,
and you're not trying to one-up,and you know.
Hey, I want to say this I'mgoing to get this amount of time
.

Speaker 6 (01:00:18):
Y smooth and really appreciate it.
What's?

Speaker 1 (01:00:19):
the biggest episode that y'all have had.

Speaker 6 (01:00:20):
I don't know um you know I'd have to phone my wife.

Speaker 8 (01:00:22):
You know who got a lot, honestly, was uh, I can't
remember his name got a ton kipmore kip, more he has this like
this secret Is that the onewhere he talked about
songwriters and streaming andall that stuff?
No, because I saw him onsomething.

Speaker 3 (01:00:42):
Kip's got a little hidden ground and he's got an
overseas following.
That's unbelievable.
He goes overseas and does major, no doubt.

Speaker 5 (01:00:50):
Yeah, he does and.

Speaker 3 (01:00:51):
Kip, I love Kip.
Anyway, we go way back with Kip.
Kip's a hard worker, yeah, um,but I mean he, his work ethic
and what he does is is yeah,it's a lesson, it's a lesson to
artists that look at thissomething's feel like it's
stalling somewhere.

Speaker 8 (01:01:07):
There's other avenues .
What do you say on y'all's?

Speaker 2 (01:01:10):
that was.
I mean he just honestly heexplained, remember he went on
that motorcycle ride that waslike cross-country.
Yeah, it was so bizarre.
I was always like a hit Kip fan.
I never jumped into the recordsthat much, but I liked the hits
, yeah, and I'll tell you that's.
One thing we've learned is thatwhether someone's at the top of

(01:01:30):
their game or the middle oftheir game or wherever they're
at, if've developed a giantfaint fan base dude, they're
there for life.
I mean we were getting allthese comments from brazil on
these kit more oh, I believethat they were in spanish.

Speaker 5 (01:01:42):
You know, we're like what, what is this?
But?

Speaker 2 (01:01:44):
at the same time, it's like man they've.
I mean those guys, you're right, whether you're radio hot or
whether you're hot in brazil,it's like you know they're.
Those fans are there andthey're gonna be y'all.

Speaker 8 (01:01:56):
Y'all had luke on you .
Hey, come on, that was a bit ofa problem.

Speaker 1 (01:02:01):
Yeah, yeah and those are all big, those are all big
riley green was on.

Speaker 8 (01:02:04):
Yeah, yeah, those are .

Speaker 9 (01:02:05):
Those are all the episodes for us it was like,
okay, we're calling our bros,we're trying to hit up people.
We know, when we're startingthis thing, it's like, oh my god
, help us out, can you come on?
And we, we're starting thisthing, it's like, oh my god,
help us out, can you come on?
And we, we're very thankful wehad a lot of those people.
It was the same thing.
It was who was like one of thefirst or who was a guest that
you had, that you hadn't metbefore, you didn't know, and

(01:02:25):
they came on and blew your socksuh, justin moore for me.

Speaker 1 (01:02:29):
Well, kobe clay, first of all, justin Justin.

Speaker 2 (01:02:31):
Moore hasn't been on our podcast.

Speaker 9 (01:02:32):
Sorry.

Speaker 4 (01:02:37):
Thank you, reed, you can see your show.

Speaker 2 (01:02:39):
But if you listen to this show, I'll sing a crown of
coke.

Speaker 7 (01:02:42):
here You're trying to give her a wrong tip.
No, Dustin Lynch.

Speaker 1 (01:02:44):
Colby Collet vocally absolutely wrecked me, like she
did Sister Act 2.
He'll probably cut that.
Yeah, she sang something out ofSister Act 2 that absolutely
took me somewhere.

Speaker 2 (01:02:59):
It's a Lauryn Hill song.

Speaker 1 (01:03:00):
Yeah, lauryn Hill song.
It blew me away, but DustinLynch was awesome man, I'm
strumming my train with hisfingers, which is actually a.

Speaker 6 (01:03:08):
Fugees song yeah right.

Speaker 2 (01:03:10):
She, vocally, is the best.

Speaker 1 (01:03:11):
But, man, you know, in an industry where a lot of
people are singing about countrymusic and singing about a
lifestyle that sometimes theydon't live, you know, and
sometimes you can see throughthat, we had Dustin Lynch on and
, dude, this country iscornbread man and we were at For
a guy with that good of teeththat was kind of surprising.

Speaker 2 (01:03:33):
He's a golfer too.
Yeah, he's a stick was kind ofsurprising he's a golfer too.
Yeah, he's a good stick, heplayed college golf, he's a good
stick.

Speaker 1 (01:03:37):
But we were done with the episode and he was like
whoa, whoa, whoa.
He's like we haven't eventalked about turkey hunting yet,
and so we extended the episodeanother 25, 30 minutes to talk
about turkey hunting.
That's awesome, just a greatdude.

Speaker 8 (01:03:49):
Y'all just failed because I was expecting to hear
my episode best.

Speaker 3 (01:03:54):
I think the ratings are still being evaluated.

Speaker 6 (01:03:56):
Yeah, I'm so new.

Speaker 1 (01:04:01):
I will say this the team came back and said that
your episode was one of the mostsound episodes we've had in a
long time.
Who's the team Meat Eater and?

Speaker 2 (01:04:14):
my wife Scree's wife is our manager.
Who's the team Meat Eater?
And my wife, scree's wife, isour manager.

Speaker 8 (01:04:19):
That's all in marriage.

Speaker 1 (01:04:20):
You got brought up today in my co-write.
They were like dude.
That Neil Thrasher podcast wasawesome.

Speaker 4 (01:04:26):
What was funny is when y'all do y'all's thing,
which I think is great, and youhave that little song and it's
what you Mad At, and then you'reasking Neil that, and I'm
thinking you're asking Neil thathe's mad at everything.

Speaker 9 (01:04:37):
That took up a whole show.
I was surprised.

Speaker 6 (01:04:40):
I was surprised.

Speaker 9 (01:04:41):
I thought you were going to.

Speaker 8 (01:04:43):
I didn't go off on very solid.

Speaker 6 (01:04:46):
Let's turn it around what you mad at Just tell us
what it is what you mad at.
Is it your in-laws kids Might?
Be your boss man or yourneighbor's cat?
Just tell us what you're mad at, what are you mad at?

Speaker 4 (01:05:04):
What are you mad at?
Tell us what you're mad at.
Yeah, I'll tell you what I'mmad at, and I've been mad at
this for a long time.

Speaker 6 (01:05:10):
Here we go.

Speaker 8 (01:05:12):
How long have we got?
How long?

Speaker 6 (01:05:14):
have we got?
This is going to be good.

Speaker 4 (01:05:16):
Back in the day, the left lane was reserved for
people that are going fast.

Speaker 6 (01:05:20):
Oh my God, Good one.
Hey, I'm just telling you.

Speaker 4 (01:05:21):
Traffic.

Speaker 7 (01:05:22):
Traffic.

Speaker 4 (01:05:23):
I'm just telling you People are not aware.
It's been the last few years.
Nobody gets over in the rightlane.
They're going to live in theleft, no matter how fast they're
going, and it really irks me,it just does maybe we should
write that living and I justwrote.

Speaker 8 (01:05:36):
I just wrote a song it's got that in it about big
rigs coming over and blockingthe left lane dang yeah, I knew
you were left.

Speaker 2 (01:05:43):
I knew you were left, yeah all right, what about you?

Speaker 6 (01:05:45):
which man we're not going?
Which man oh clock wise.

Speaker 2 (01:05:49):
Well, neil's gonna take forever.
No, I'm, I pass.
Okay, pass you.
What do you mean you?

Speaker 8 (01:05:53):
pass.
They hear what we're mad at allthe time streaming.
I'm so bad at streaming, man,if I didn't pick that up in our
earlier conversation freakingstreaming all right, let me ask
you guys what, what decade ofcountry music is your favorite?
90s it's everybody's favoritebecause it was the best man.
It's amazing.

Speaker 2 (01:06:13):
It's everybody's answer, I mean for me, man, it
was just this like glory 10, 12years of just solid singing,
solid melodies, solid, I mean itjust.

Speaker 1 (01:06:27):
It wasn't the same either right Like it was
different.

Speaker 8 (01:06:29):
It was everybody's answer.
I think it was females too.

Speaker 2 (01:06:32):
It was Patti Loves.

Speaker 3 (01:06:33):
You can extend that from like that's.
It was females too.

Speaker 2 (01:06:35):
It was Patti Love you can extend that from like
almost 87 through the 90s.

Speaker 3 (01:06:39):
Mid 90s.
I love Keith Whitley, loveWhitley, love Desert Rose Band.
I love Steve Earle.
I love.

Speaker 5 (01:06:47):
Dwight.

Speaker 3 (01:06:48):
Yoakam.
So you're looking at that 80s,late 80s, through the mid 90s.

Speaker 8 (01:06:56):
The 80s through the mid-90s, the 90s was magical for
comedy.
I was born in 87.
Oh, my God, Sorry yeah yeah.

Speaker 7 (01:07:03):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (01:07:03):
What is that?
This could be the disconnect.

Speaker 7 (01:07:06):
I'm mad at that.
I'm mad at you.

Speaker 1 (01:07:11):
I mean my 80s, feel great, I got bass strings older
than you, man.

Speaker 3 (01:07:15):
You got what Bass?
Great, I got bass strings olderthan you, man.
I'm like, you got what?

Speaker 6 (01:07:18):
Bass strings.

Speaker 1 (01:07:19):
I want a bass, now older than you and I'm 37, dog
yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:07:23):
I mean we're extended , yeah, we're in our drop-dead
years.
I feel that that's what BillBurr said in his last stand-up.
He's like we're in thosedrop-dead years, those of us
here at this table, not you guys.
You guys are still.
I don't know, man, it couldhappen at any minute.

Speaker 2 (01:07:36):
I'm 41.

Speaker 9 (01:07:38):
No, no, no, you got it.
You're in the good years.
You're in the good years.
Okay, I appreciate that.

Speaker 7 (01:07:42):
You know what.

Speaker 9 (01:07:42):
I'm mad at I just figured it out.

Speaker 1 (01:07:54):
I can't wait.
It's all good.

Speaker 9 (01:07:56):
I see you guys and it's like you know how you have
a.
I'm trying to think of a goodanalogy.

Speaker 3 (01:08:04):
There's this really successful business Jealousy.

Speaker 9 (01:08:07):
We're mad at each other, oh yeah, and then they
kind of put together this otherbusiness basically to launder
money.
I see these two, they have asuccessful business as
songwriters, right, they'redoing very well, and now they've
got this podcast business,which is basically there just to
get them better rights and morecuts hey cut this, yeah, cut

(01:08:30):
this.
You guys got you're brilliantand I'm pissed.
We didn't think about it, oh.

Speaker 2 (01:08:38):
I'm just saying you're not doing that right now
because I'm a fucking idiotright.

Speaker 4 (01:08:43):
I want to write both of you.

Speaker 2 (01:08:44):
I'm just saying thank you, I'm ready.
You tell me when man you tellme we already have Kayla.
Oh god, that was a long timeago and we didn't finish it
what's he on?
Produce the song.
Don't do that if you didn'tfinish.
Produce it in one way oranother.
Yeah, he's like let me hear itwhere is it?

Speaker 4 (01:08:57):
what's the title?

Speaker 8 (01:08:59):
you don't know what's his favorite Brian Paisley song
?
Do you not remember writingthat Mud on the Tires, mud on
the Tires.
I do remember we dance.

Speaker 4 (01:09:09):
It wasn't that one he didn going.

Speaker 6 (01:09:10):
I put on an empty hardwood floor.

Speaker 2 (01:09:14):
No, he meant keep singing.

Speaker 6 (01:09:15):
No, there's songs I keep singing.

Speaker 8 (01:09:16):
Until you get to K-Lo's.
I don't know what else youwrote.
You wrote a million of them.

Speaker 2 (01:09:20):
I know you wrote a bunch.

Speaker 9 (01:09:21):
How many number ones you got K-Lo Flex 18?

Speaker 5 (01:09:25):
Oh Bro, that's a flex , no no, no, I can tell by that
wrist piece, blinding me everytime you move it around.

Speaker 1 (01:09:32):
No, it doesn't work.

Speaker 9 (01:09:42):
It's my show watch, that's an absolute flex.
That's a flex, that is.

Speaker 1 (01:09:47):
Hey Zane, that's mean dude.

Speaker 2 (01:09:49):
I'm trying to remember Brad Paisley, a bunch
of Brad.

Speaker 1 (01:09:58):
I mean there's so many hits Dude.
There was a link right there inthe early 2000s where he was
the dude.

Speaker 4 (01:10:01):
It's a blessing, like with Luke, to have that
relationship with an artist likeAldine.
It just helps a bunch as astraight up songwriter, because
10 of those are with Brad.

Speaker 7 (01:10:11):
We live on the same farm.

Speaker 4 (01:10:13):
You know him, you know what he would say and what
he wouldn't say same same withyou know, aldine and um and you
guys and so and so.
For me, even though that was ahuge blessing, and you started
having hits with brad, you wouldhear people say say, oh yeah,
that's, that's one of brad'sguys, yeah, which irritated me,
yeah.
So my biggest drive was to gethits outside of brad yeah,

(01:10:34):
absolutely, and I and I followedthat with a mission and then
finally got it and I and I felt,and I was glad to get the ones
with Brad and very happy withthem, but, uh, but you also
getting those outside ones, uh,that was, you know, validated.

Speaker 2 (01:10:46):
Yeah, I mean, I even feel that with cuts, you know um
some of those guys that arethat are new and coming up and I
I feel that honestly I don'tcare if luke recorded every song
from now on here on out of mine, I wouldn't care.

Speaker 1 (01:11:00):
I'd be fine with that .

Speaker 2 (01:11:01):
I don't feel like I have anything to really to prove
anymore.

Speaker 6 (01:11:03):
I think now it's just going.

Speaker 2 (01:11:05):
Yeah, you know how can I help the artist convey
what they want to say?

Speaker 9 (01:11:09):
you know, yeah did, I did, I hear where you were.
Uh, luke's guitar tech for abit.

Speaker 2 (01:11:15):
Oh yes, Is that a for real thing?
Who told you that?

Speaker 4 (01:11:19):
No, because it ties in.

Speaker 1 (01:11:20):
Yeah, you should have seen his little stubby legs
running out on that stage.

Speaker 6 (01:11:24):
No, but is that for real, I will find footage.

Speaker 1 (01:11:27):
It's out there.

Speaker 2 (01:11:28):
We'll find it.
So this is how that all wentdown Trying to decide on where
to start the story.
So he's like a brother to us atthis point, honestly.
So there are some things Idon't feel like I have to do
anymore.
And what I mean by that is sowhen he was on, it was the ACM

(01:11:52):
or CMAs or whatever it was, andit was the year he won
Entertainer of the Year, and soI was at the house mind you,
it's a 45 minute drive to townfrom my house and so I was like
shine was like my wife was likeyou go in.
I was like he's an after partyevery year.
So now if he listens to this,he'll figure out that I wasn't
there the whole time.
But I was like I'll tell youwhat, if he wins that album,

(01:12:13):
I'll put my boots on.
You know what I mean?
So they're like album of theyear.
Luke comes on, I put my bootson and she's like I think you
need to guess artist of the yearis always at the very end, or
entertainer of the year isalways at the end.
So I'm like man, I probablyneed to get moving.
So I take off.
Well, I was pulling on tomumbria and when he won
entertainer and I was like thankgod I can't, you know, because

(01:12:34):
you know anyway, I roll up tothis, the, where the after party
is, I'm sitting there, he walksin.
We all, yeah, doing the thing,excited for him.
Reed was there.
We were all just kind ofhanging out.
He was like hey man, I need youto follow me for a second.
I was like what he's like, justfollow me for a second.
I was like, all right, I slideback to this room with him.
It's like Peyyton manningspeakeasy or something.

(01:13:00):
It was super weird.
But I get in there, is thatthing?
What's it called?
The college?
I have no clue.
College bar thing anyway, sure?
So I go back with him and he'slike hey man, he's like uh, I
want you to be and andshortening the story, I want you
to be my guitar tech.
I.
I was like hell no dude Hell, no, there ain't no way I'm going

(01:13:20):
to do that, no way.
He's like, dude, we'll shoot astag.
I was like what?
He's like we'll shoot a redstag in Australia.
I was like okay, okay, keeptalking.
He's like we'll play golf,we'll turkey hunt, we'll shoot a
stag, we'll write some songs.
I was like no, no, dude, I'mnot doing it.
He's like talk to Shine aboutit.
Don't give me an answer, talkto Shine about it.

(01:13:40):
I was like all right, I callher and I'm like can you believe
this?

Speaker 6 (01:13:54):
Like this dude wants me to go on the road with him,
and she was like to hang out inthat comfort zone.

Speaker 2 (01:13:58):
She wants you out of the house.
Exactly so I did it, and it wastough how many dates was it
Probably 60, 50, 60 days, itwasn't crazy.

Speaker 9 (01:14:07):
Not too bad.

Speaker 2 (01:14:08):
Well, I'll tell you where it got rough was Australia
and Europe.
There were four and five weeks.
That's where the bulk of theshows were.
Uh, there were four and fiveweeks.
That's where the the bulk ofthe shows were.
And I'm gonna tell you, man,there was one day, dude, there
was one day I was in the.
They had doubled you know, guysknow this double deckers in
europe where there's like twoand I was.
It was 2 30 in the morningthere and I was in the double

(01:14:32):
decker down there eating a damnturkey and cheese sandwich and I
was like I'm never, I'm nevercoming back this is it?
I don't care about the rest ofthe world, I don't care about
seeing the rest of the world, Iwant to go home, I want to stay
home and I'm never goinganywhere else.
And then I, at the end of theof the end of the run, luke I
always tell this luke was like,uh, he ain't coming back next

(01:14:55):
year.
I was like hell, hell, no, dude, I ain't coming back.
He's like W Salary.
I was like nope.

Speaker 9 (01:15:00):
Did you for real tune the guitar?

Speaker 2 (01:15:03):
Oh, I was for real.
I mean, I had the in-ears and Iwas tuned to the different
guitars for different tunings.
The worst one, dude, and thisis a life lesson.
This is a life lesson forpeople out there is we were in
nashville at nissan.
He had sold nissan and it'slike 80, 70, 000, 75 000 or
something.
And he gets up there and he'splaying one of the I can't

(01:15:25):
remember which song it was, butit starts with him acoustic.
He plays the first verse of thesong acoustic and he strums and
nothing happens and I'm like, ohmy god, it's so cool.
He's likeo got something goingon up here, buddy and I was like
I don't know if you know thisor not, you'd probably do the
inner ears are just like dan,what the hell?

(01:15:47):
So I'm running, I'll run out onthe stage with my stubby legs
and I get out there and I openthe pack and I can see the
battery has just slipped and Ijust found that thing back in
there and he strums and it's allgood, it's rain, I think monday
morning, that's right, and Icome back and for the next, like
four songs, I'm just liketweaking tweaking and my and one

(01:16:10):
of the established guitar techsshout out ed lahane, he comes
over and he puts his arm aroundme and he goes.
Hey, man, he goes out.
Of the 75 000 people in thisarena, you're the only one
thinking about that mistake.
Nobody else even cares.
He's like let it go and do yourjob, man.
And I think that's a great lifeapplication, that that

(01:16:31):
sometimes the deals that wethink are so huge and nobody
will ever forget and ever getover, because, dude, we're gonna
screw up.

Speaker 4 (01:16:36):
Man, we would have burned, yeah, yeah we don't like
that, honestly I'm kidding, I'mtrying to get fired you
mentioned, oh sorry no, youmentioned australia.

Speaker 3 (01:16:52):
Real quick, go ahead.
I saw stuff in australia Inever thought I bet you did I
know what's legal.
Oh my god no, just when theysay there's stuff in australia
that would kill you.
Oh, we were down there touring,we were in, like melbourne,
brisbane, one, one of the yeah,there's only like eight.

Speaker 2 (01:17:13):
Yeah, you only go.
It's all coastal right too.
Yeah, there's nothing on theeast coast.
Yeah, you're go like it takestwo days to get to the city,
it's all coastal right too yeahthere's

Speaker 3 (01:17:18):
nothing on these coves.
Yeah, you're right, that'scrazy.
We're at a bar and we're and Iknow it's not the alcohol,
because I only have one drinkand I saw this bat and I saw, I
saw a tree, though she wasmoving this whole side of a tree
, and I'm asked a bartender?
I'm like, damn, there'ssomething in that tree man big,

(01:17:40):
big right I said I said bro,there's something in that tree
like something big.
He goes oh mate, it's just oneof those, just a little city bat
, and the thing took off.
It looked like a horse withwings man, it was just like some
sort of prehistoric and thenthe huge, like fire ant mound,

(01:18:04):
like ants, the size of this cup.

Speaker 2 (01:18:06):
The spiders are nuts too, man dude, they get huge
over there I mean, it was it,was they messing?
Around.
Yeah, they didn't have that atthe ritz, but I know what you're
saying.

Speaker 8 (01:18:15):
Yeah, I'll never get on a plane that long ever.
I didn't have that at the Ritz,but I know what you're saying
I'll never get on a plane thatlong ever.
It's a long trip one of thegreatest nights of my life
speaking of techs, guitar techsand what not, is the night we
had to play Try that in a SmallTown at the Ryman for the NSAI

(01:18:36):
Awards, and these guys didn'thave their techs, and it's one
of the greatest regrets they'veever had.
Seeing Tully having to carryhis bass across Well.

Speaker 6 (01:18:49):
I realize no, no but even better than that.

Speaker 8 (01:18:52):
I mean, you did fine.
But Kurt didn't even have anacoustic guitar at home.
He had to call Guitar Center toask to rent one when he drove
on the way to the NSA.

Speaker 9 (01:19:10):
It's an hour before we have to be there.

Speaker 8 (01:19:12):
We're playing.
Try that in a Small Town.
Live for all these people.
And I'm about to leave and I go, and these guys are so
unprepared.

Speaker 1 (01:19:18):
Where's my?

Speaker 8 (01:19:18):
guitar.

Speaker 7 (01:19:19):
Or I don't have a tech.

Speaker 8 (01:19:21):
He didn't have a tech .
The guitar didn't have a back.

Speaker 4 (01:19:24):
It was awesome, but let me take up for Curt and
Tully a little bit on this.

Speaker 9 (01:19:28):
Thanks, Caleb.

Speaker 4 (01:19:29):
Since you brought this up about them being
unprepared.

Speaker 8 (01:19:32):
Okay let's come up with one.
Everybody needs to know howpampered these guys are.
Several times it is true.

Speaker 4 (01:19:39):
Several times I'd said, hey, neil, we should
probably run over the song, solet's go over it.
We know it, we play it.
All the time I said, yeah, butwe don't play it.
With these guys I mean, they'reprobably going to play it,
right, I don't play it right.
I, I don't play it rightexactly right and he goes no,

(01:19:59):
we're gonna be fine.
And so so finally we did, wewent over it you know, right
before you know up there and itsounded good and Tully said hey,
y'all are just playing that onepart right and we changed it
and we're playing it right.

Speaker 8 (01:20:10):
So I felt pretty good about that you're fixing to
throw me under the bus.

Speaker 4 (01:20:17):
Well, it's only because it's only because you
brought it up and you didn'twant to practice or anything.
And we get out there andthere's one thing Neil said hey,
by the way, when I get outthere, I'm going to talk, I'm
going to say something.
Of course I said I don't thinkwe're supposed to.
I think that's what the videois.
They try to keep the show going.
He goes.
No, I'm going to say something.
I'm going to talk about thesong.

(01:20:37):
I'm going to do it and I said,okay, all right, go ahead.
And so we walk out there andright before he sat down, he
goes hey, by the way, I'm notgoing to say anything, Go ahead
and start singing the firstverse.
And I said, oh, okay, okay,that's changed.
And then we singing, first, youknow the first few lines, and
then who comes in on the wrongchord Was it Curt and Tully, it

(01:21:02):
was old Neil.

Speaker 3 (01:21:03):
Wow, it's okay, it was an airing of green, it
wasn't a Curt and Tully.

Speaker 2 (01:21:06):
No, just because you couldn't hear it doesn't mean it
wasn't the wrong chord.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:21:11):
Well, and it wasn't the wrong chord because it
wasn't on your part, it was on,but I was thrown off by once I
got there and realizing that, oh, I don't think I have a cable.
Oh, wait a minute.

Speaker 8 (01:21:24):
Do I have a tuner?
Hence the guitar tuner.

Speaker 4 (01:21:26):
Oh yeah, you did want to use my tuner.
Your lifeline, my lifeline, ohfor sure.

Speaker 8 (01:21:31):
These guys were fish out of water without their text.

Speaker 7 (01:21:34):
I mean look at his hair.

Speaker 6 (01:21:36):
It turned out good.
It turned out good.
They're like yeah we were.

Speaker 7 (01:21:38):
It was real fun, I admit it.

Speaker 4 (01:21:39):
But I was going to on the guitar tech thing you had
mentioned and there's a couplethings and both of them came
from the Bobby Bones show thatyou guys were on and you were
talking about being a tech atthe Grammys and before the show
or something like that and so.
But you mentioned the Grammysand then last podcast we had, we
were talking about the Grammysand Neil had said something

(01:22:02):
about Beyonce that kind of gotpicked up on a little bit of the
media and stuff.
Do you guys have an opinion onthe Beyonce win?

Speaker 9 (01:22:11):
Oh, Kayla, way to go.

Speaker 8 (01:22:13):
I like it.

Speaker 4 (01:22:14):
Let's want to know.
Just got to respect you guys.

Speaker 9 (01:22:15):
You can either answer that or, if you like, the Super
Bowl halftime, pick yourquestion, whatever man.

Speaker 8 (01:22:20):
Did y'all see the Beyonce thing?

Speaker 2 (01:22:24):
I didn't see it.
I honestly don't.
This is terrible of me, but wetalked about it and I'm not
dodging the question.

Speaker 1 (01:22:35):
I literally don't know the record I mean dude, we
know who's voting that right.
Like I don't base that, ain'tcountry listeners voting that,
or it'd be different.

Speaker 2 (01:22:47):
Here's how I feel about it.
It's almost like getting mad atJurassic Park and saying those
dinosaurs don't look real.
Like what you're, what we'resorry.
I feel like what that questionis looking for sometimes is like
an answer to like logicalreasoning, and you have to throw
all that out the window when itcomes to those things.

(01:23:08):
So for me it's likeentertainment wise, I see why it
won, but when you talk aboutactual streams, listen, it
doesn't make any sense.

Speaker 9 (01:23:19):
Yeah, cully said that he goes.
Are you guys surprised?
Why would you be surprised?
Yeah, you can't put reasoning.

Speaker 3 (01:23:23):
I don't think you can apply reasoning.
There's no reason to besurprised because that's right.

Speaker 1 (01:23:27):
No, that's what happens To entertain the grain.

Speaker 3 (01:23:28):
I mean it's.

Speaker 1 (01:23:29):
I'll tell you this that ain't a true representation
country listeners, I don't feellike for me man, it's kind of
like when I was at.

Speaker 2 (01:23:37):
I was at the grammys, uh, two years ago, and it was
when, um, what's the I don'teven know the guy's name
something smith dressed up likea damn devil and there was some
demons oh, sam smith, I'll tellyou yeah, we talked about yeah,
some trans guys we didn't talkenough about it but go there
some dark evil stuff.

Speaker 8 (01:23:54):
Well, let me tell you this man when I was backstage.

Speaker 2 (01:23:59):
There's a real funny story.
I'll tell you after the no, no,no no but I was just kind of
like the whole time trying tofigure out and some of the crew
is even like, look at dan tryingto figure out what's going on.
He has a rookie, you know itwas.
It was odd.
I was looking at this thing,but one of the things I really
felt genuinely uh, you know, asfar as reasoning, a lot of that

(01:24:23):
stuff is just straightentertainment.
Man, they're only doing thatstuff like I don't think those
people were devil worshipers andthat they were they were.
It's literally like they justmake this thing up that goes how
can we get the most attention?

Speaker 9 (01:24:39):
And they're shameless in it dude.

Speaker 2 (01:24:41):
Completely shameless there wasn't seances and weird
Ouija boards and shit going onback there.
It was genuinely like did we doit?
Did we make everybody?

Speaker 8 (01:24:51):
think it's shock value, I feel uncomfortable.

Speaker 3 (01:24:56):
I mean the year that we got to do a one-year play
there and it was amazing.
We were very blessed to do it.
It was Kelly Clarkson.
Don't you Want to Stay thatyear, giant?

Speaker 6 (01:25:04):
song Giant song.

Speaker 3 (01:25:05):
Giant song.
Great time for us.
But, like also now, this wasprobably 2011, 12, right, we
were at the Grammys and it wasjust sound checking there was so
amazing.
I mean, springsteen was playingit and watching his sound check
and Springsteen sound checking,it was like he was like it's
like his show.

(01:25:26):
That's how it was.
It was great.
Bruno Mars had a breakout yearand it was all about the music
killer.
So where we've come to now in avery short amount of time, if
you think about it, it's fromjust really amazing music and
performances to how to make themost people feel uncomfortable.
That's right, absolutely that'sright, and that that's one
thing.
I I don't care how they vote,because the grammys are always

(01:25:48):
going to vote whatever the waythey are.
The opposite of that's right,that's right, but but it's
because they're the actualthey're demonic but the actual
music used to be incredible, andit wasn't that long ago now, we
just slid in how uncomfortablecan you feel?

Speaker 1 (01:26:08):
what kind of shock value clickbait what can we do
for the internet?

Speaker 3 (01:26:14):
how can we get talked about?

Speaker 8 (01:26:16):
there's so much talent there they sacrifice
their soul for it.

Speaker 7 (01:26:20):
They're drinking blood backstage.
They sell their soul for it.

Speaker 8 (01:26:22):
This has now become thrash talk they may not believe
that completely, but they selltheir soul for it, for money.
And Sam Smith needs to goturkey hunting.

Speaker 4 (01:26:33):
Sam.

Speaker 8 (01:26:34):
Smith.

Speaker 6 (01:26:35):
Sam.

Speaker 8 (01:26:35):
Smith needs to go turkey hunting, hunting and we
might save his soul.

Speaker 6 (01:26:38):
Hey, we get him one, we might save his soul, you're
not?

Speaker 3 (01:26:40):
getting him in a blind, can I?

Speaker 6 (01:26:42):
say my favorite thing I'm not hunting a blind with
him.
I'm not getting him in a dress,but not a blind.

Speaker 3 (01:26:46):
Wait a minute now Hold on.
That's something I want to see.

Speaker 6 (01:26:52):
Thrasher and Sam Smith in a entertainment right
now.
That's clickbait.
Yeah, can we make that happen?
Yeah?

Speaker 8 (01:26:57):
somehow, you guys somewhere pull them out one of
my favorite saves his soul.

Speaker 2 (01:27:02):
I'll take him turkey hunting is when he gets like
somebody's interviewing him andthey say, well, what do you?
You know, if you didn't domusic, what would you do?
And he says I think I'd like tobe a fisherman.
And then, anyway, I mean afisher them, a fisher them.

Speaker 8 (01:27:17):
Oh, I fisher them oh God, I saw that A fisher them oh
wow yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:27:19):
Fisher them.

Speaker 3 (01:27:20):
What does that mean?

Speaker 8 (01:27:22):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (01:27:23):
Exactly Catch me up guys.

Speaker 2 (01:27:24):
Got me bro, got me bro A fisher, she A fisher them.
Oh my God.

Speaker 8 (01:27:34):
You don't have to say anymore.

Speaker 9 (01:27:35):
That's what that meant I'm fitting to preach.
I got to start putting a bow onthis thing, but listen before
we do this.
Both of you give an episodethat people should check out.
What's your favorite episode?
You get bad.

Speaker 1 (01:27:50):
Neil.

Speaker 9 (01:27:50):
Thrasher buddy.

Speaker 1 (01:27:54):
We need the views.
Come on, man, give us one, noyou go, we Come on, man give us
one?
No, you go, you go.

Speaker 3 (01:28:05):
We're kind of second season, right, so like we're in
a new studio.

Speaker 1 (01:28:07):
Wait, you guys have seasons, we are.
We're in our second, okay wait.

Speaker 3 (01:28:09):
How many episodes are in a season?

Speaker 1 (01:28:11):
52.
52.

Speaker 3 (01:28:12):
Yeah, okay, we're in season one.

Speaker 4 (01:28:14):
Still, it looks great , it looks awesome man.

Speaker 1 (01:28:18):
you know what I'm going to say, dude.
We had our dad on and that wasspecial, oh cool.
We got to bring Grandy.
His name's Randy, but our kidscall him Grandy.

Speaker 2 (01:28:29):
So it's like the perfect grandfather name.
Everything's a hook in ourlives.
I love it.

Speaker 1 (01:28:33):
Dude, we're super blessed with our podcast to get
to talk about a lot of what wewant to talk about, and so a lot
of that is family music, justenjoyments of life, and so we
talk about our dad a lot.
We talk about Grandy a whole lotand he's become kind of a
character on our thing and a lotof DMs about what's Grandy got

(01:28:54):
going on, what new Facebookmarketplace deal is granny got
into, and and and so, dude, wewe live me and Dan and my dad
all live in about a 10 minutetriangle from each other.
So, dude, he's our best friendman like.
We see him constantly.
I see him four or five times aweek and I talk to him every day
and we got to have him on andjust pick his brain and and and
let him tell stories, the huntstories from way back when, and

(01:29:18):
and that was probably we've,we've had combs on and and we've
got some great, you know,guests in the in in the works
and that we're going to have onour podcast.
But I think the most specialone for me that I feel like
everybody should go check outbecause they they'll understand
who we are at the core, morethan anything is is is the
episode with dad yeah, I, I.

Speaker 2 (01:29:37):
Honestly, when I think back about the episodes, I
, I, the indicator to me is,like, what stories do I remember
that people told I, I and I'mnot just saying this, but I, I
love thinking back and goingback and listening to the story
of the turkey across the otherside of the road that you called
your like cornerstone turkey.
Oh, yeah, that was.
That was a.
That was a special moment, man.

(01:29:57):
Um, the other one I, I think ofit, which was just strictly
entertaining, was we and I and,to be honest, I didn't know a
lot about this guy but we hadco-wets along and yeah, he talks
about getting absolutelyhammered and walking across the
street and getting arrested at awhataburger and that was
extremely entertaining and thewhole time he was looking at his

(01:30:21):
publicist like can I say this,or is it?
cool if I'm saying this.

Speaker 1 (01:30:33):
But trying to keep that guy in an interviewable box
was a challenge when we hadCombs on.
Well, this is the only timethis has ever happened.
Gosh, we start, we go off, dudethis is early on where we were.

Speaker 2 (01:30:42):
We didn't have a format, we were just like tall,
we would just talk.

Speaker 1 (01:30:45):
We.
There's a clock that and therestill is a clock that we watch
and and at 30 minutes we try to,you know, hunt into music.

Speaker 2 (01:30:51):
That's kind of our if we don't, all we'll talk about
is hunting there will be nomusic.

Speaker 1 (01:30:55):
Oh, I'm with you.
Yeah, but we had combs on andwe were sitting there talking
and our producer you could justsee her she was just like, oh my
God.

Speaker 6 (01:31:05):
Like we're sitting here.

Speaker 1 (01:31:06):
Cameras are on us.
She's in the background andshe's like, oh gosh, god, I was
like doing this thing and shestopped the recording with combs
this is our biggest you knowguest.
Yeah, she stops and she goes.
Guys, guys, guys, what she goes, y'all talking, y'all are
talking about.
Y'all been talking about turkeysausage and skillet crisp for

(01:31:26):
the last 47 minutes she was likewe have got to move on here so
I mean, that's a great one too,if you want to go, if you want
to go here about minute 48.

Speaker 9 (01:31:37):
That's right?

Speaker 1 (01:31:37):
yeah, if you want to go hear about how Combs was.
We talk about Skillet Crisp,and how he was a manager of a
go-kart place for years beforehe made it.

Speaker 9 (01:31:47):
That's amazing.
I do think that's what peoplewant to hear.

Speaker 1 (01:31:50):
I know they do.
Y'all know this.

Speaker 2 (01:31:53):
I mean, y'all are these people, but it's like we
all share a common human thread.
We all share struggles, we allshare trying to reach the goals
and trying to get to the placeand trying to have good friends
and good people and good music.
And there's something relatableabout just having somebody sit
across the table from you andjust talk about their lives for
a couple of minutes and, by theway, perfect segue into saying

(01:32:16):
thank y'all for allowing us tocome and do that absolutely.

Speaker 8 (01:32:20):
We appreciate it, thank you.
We can't thank you one of ourfavorite both thank you they can
see.

Speaker 9 (01:32:25):
Obviously you're on instagram.
Where else are you?
You got that?

Speaker 1 (01:32:28):
yeah, man I tick talk .
I think I don't really do.
You know my we?
Yeah, we're on tick tock we'rereal bad about it, but we have.
We do have tick, facebook, anysocial media, and then we're on
YouTube.
God's Country Podcast onYouTube.

Speaker 9 (01:32:42):
Yeah, subscribe, follow.
Part of the Meat Eaters, partof the Meat Eater Network.
That's right, that's awesome.
Hey, and don't forget about us.
You guys Go to the YouTube andleave us some comments.
Nothing about y'all.
These guys are legit, man.
You know what we?

Speaker 2 (01:32:52):
started doing was five, five star or roast us in
the ratings.
You guys should do that, andwhat you do is you allow, as
long as they give you five stars, they can roast you oh, they
already roasted can I?

Speaker 1 (01:33:06):
read one do we have time?
We got time for whatever.
Hey, well, since we havestarted this and this was an
idea, this is my wife's idea,but since we have started this,
we have so many five-starratings Okay, so you give them
the ability to roast you.
If they give you five stars,well, they can roast us if they
give us one, but the only wayyou'll get shouted out on the

(01:33:27):
podcast is if you leave us afive star.

Speaker 2 (01:33:29):
That's a great idea.
It's a bit now, right, dang,you guys are smart.
So this one's titled DumpsterDan and Lesser Brother.
That's how they started, so weread one of these in episode,
I'm already laughing.
Episode 63 was the best one sofar, even with the whole podcast
being hard to love.
That was Lee Bryce.

(01:33:49):
I can tell the boys are goingdownhill fast with old material,
only referencing Luke Combs'Gas Station Chicken and being
mad at traffic.
Heck, what am I mad at?
I'm mad at this podcast.
Good thing Steve Rinella gavethese guys a chance, otherwise
they'd be no one At this point.
Steve is just doing charitywork as a write-off for the two
of them.
Wow.

(01:34:10):
It's five stars, it's five stars.
It's hard to be mad at that, ohman yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:34:16):
It's five stars, it's five stars.
It's hard to be mad at that, ohman.
Yeah, we got to steal that.
Okay, so, if anybody's stillhere, at an hour and a half.

Speaker 9 (01:34:22):
Give us five stars.

Speaker 5 (01:34:23):
You have carte blanche to say whatever the hell
you want and we'll read it onthe next episode.

Speaker 8 (01:34:29):
You should love it Taking your ideas now.
Please do no, it's a pre-up,yours, from me.

Speaker 1 (01:34:41):
Five star me.
I love yours.
No, hey, man, we appreciatey'all.
For real, this has been a blast.
I was really pumped when, whenneil hollered at me and asked us
to come on and and we respectyou as songwriters, all of you
um artists chasing what you got.
Yeah, yeah, what you do for theindustry absolutely, man, what
you stand for, what you believein we're, we're fans.

Speaker 9 (01:34:55):
Well, I, promise you guys the same way.
Thank you guys too.
This is Dan and Reed Isbell.
We are the Try that in a SmallTown podcast brought to you from
the Patriot Mobile Studios.
Thanks for listening, guys.

Speaker 7 (01:35:06):
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