In this electrifying episode of Try That in a Small Town, four-time Emmy Award-winning sportscaster Michelle Tafoya joins the podcast to discuss her incredible broadcasting career, political views, and potential future in Minnesota politics.
Highlights:
[0:01:15] - Introduction of Michelle Tafoya and her impressive sports broadcasting resume
[0:03:26] - Behind-the-scenes story of Super Bowl XLIX and the Malcolm Butler interception
[0:07:41] - Challenges of sideline reporting and interviewing coaches during games
[0:25:00] - Discussion on transgender athletes and sports fairness
[0:31:20] - Her experience co-hosting The View and interactions with the cast
[0:44:25] - Emotional reflection on her final Super Bowl broadcast
[0:45:57] - Moment of realizing her incredible career privilege
Key Topics:
- Sports broadcasting journey
- NFL sideline reporting
- Political commentary
- Transgender sports debate
- Minnesota politics
- Career transitions
The episode offers an intimate look at Michelle Tafoya's remarkable career and her passionate perspectives on current social and political issues.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This whole phrase.
Trans women are real, women is,so then what part is trans then
?
Why do you have to say trans?
Well, because you're not a realwoman and it's look.
You can do whatever you want,you can live however you want,
but once you start to impactfairness in sports or your look,
(00:23):
we know there are people whohave abused this.
There was one time in acommercial break and I'm sorry,
joy Behar, I am going to callyou out on this.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
I had mentioned that my brother was not getting
vaccinated, that he didn't wantto get vaccinated, and she told
me to tell my brother he's a.
You know, she called him a name.
Speaker 5 (00:40):
Oh, my God.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
And I said you know, yeah, like a selfish SOB.
And I called him a name, oh mygod.
And I said you know, yeah, likea selfish sob.
And I said, well, yeah, I'm notgonna tell him that, but you
know, I respect your feelings,you know whatever we're gonna
let you do this, michelle.
Speaker 5 (00:52):
We're gonna let you break news on the try that in a
small town podcast.
Come on you can either confirmnor deny.
Oh, are you going to make a runfor a Senate seat?
Speaker 3 (01:12):
The Try that in a Small Town podcast begins now.
Speaker 5 (01:14):
All right, welcome back.
We are coming to you from thePatriot Mobile Studios.
This is the Try that in a SmallTown podcast.
You may have noticed we'relined up tonight.
Lined up, we got TK.
I see you, kalo noticed we'relined up tonight.
Lined up, we got TK.
I see you, kalo.
I see you Thrash.
I'm Kurt and tonight we'resuper excited.
This is going to be awesome.
We have a guest.
You've seen her on Monday NightFootball, sunday Night Football
(01:38):
.
You've seen her on the NBAMarch Madness, the Olympics, I
mean four-time Emmy Award winner.
Host of the Michelle Tafoyapodcast.
We have Michelle Tafoya.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
Hi guys, what a nice intro yeah.
Speaker 5 (01:55):
Well, I mean, that's a pretty stupid resume actually.
I was writing that down.
I'm like, oh my God, are youkidding?
That's the Olympics.
Like I said, that's four orfive times at the Olympics you
did the NBA.
Of course, I said March Madness, tennis.
You ended up in football.
Was that kind of the end game?
Is that where you wanted to be?
What was kind of like where youwanted to get through your
(02:16):
career?
Speaker 1 (02:17):
It was always the NFL .
I always had my eye on the NFL.
I grew up a massive 49ers fan.
My dad was from San Francisco,my mom was from Northern Cal and
I lived in Southern Cal, so itwas tough because I was
surrounded by Rams fans.
The Rams were in LA before theywent to St Louis and then came
up.
But I absolutely lovedeverything about football,
(02:42):
particularly NFL, the NFL, and Iwas an obsessed fan and I
wanted to get into broadcasting.
I thought you know what?
So, yeah, so I started insports radio and worked my way
up and fortunately, just thingsaligned.
You guys know how it is.
It's you work hard, you getluckier right, and the harder
(03:03):
you work, you work hard, you getluckier right.
And, um, the harder you work,the luckier you get.
And I found myself on mondaynight football with the great
john madden and al michaels andI I, I think I was like in shock
for a while.
And then um went over to nbcsunday night football, still
with al michaels, but then chriscollinsworth at that point.
So what, what a what a joyouscareer I've had wow.
Speaker 4 (03:27):
Well, talking about football, I have to get right to
it okay, I'm a huge, like Imean pats fan, pats brady, the
whole, the whole thing um okay.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
So you're not at all okay so you're there, I know
your time.
Speaker 4 (03:44):
You're there.
The Super Bowl 49.
Pats beat the Seahawks.
You're standing behind BillBelichick when the interception
happens to end that game.
Speaker 5 (04:00):
Marcus Butler.
For people that don't know, theSeahawks were about to run the
ball in and they were about towin the game.
Speaker 4 (04:05):
As a Pats fan, I'm saying oh great, this is over,
you're going to run it in, it'sgoing to be over, why not?
And they should have ran it in,they should have, I mean,
anyway.
So you're behind Bill.
When that happened, I mean, Ican't imagine what that was like
.
I've seen, of course, watchingit and everything, but being
(04:28):
there, what did Bill do?
Did he just scream, or what didhe do?
Speaker 1 (04:33):
The whole scenario was so interesting because I
happened to be on their sideline.
Normally I'm on the sideline ofthe team I think is about to
win.
I did not think that at thatpoint, mind you, I just happened
to be behind that sideline andone of the things was Bill was
getting ready to call a timeout.
He expected them to run theball and then score.
(04:53):
He wanted to call a timeout andimmediately regroup, put Brady
back on the field, etc.
You know, marshawn Lynch istrying, trying second down, and
they go and they throw the pass.
And Malcolm Butler, whom no onehad ever heard of before steps
in front of that football andpicks it off, and Bill's fist
(05:16):
just went in the air.
He went from this poisedposition of I'm going to call a
timeout as soon as this score tojust this.
I mean victory formation, ifyou will.
So then my job became I got tofigure out who this Malcolm
Butler kid is, and he's got tobe in my post-game interview,
right.
So I start stalking him.
(05:37):
Every move he made on the bench, I was behind the bench
stalking him.
And so, finally, game ends, Igrab him and I'm waiting by the
camera, waiting, waiting.
Come on, al, throw it to me out.
Come on, the al, throw, youknow.
But he's putting a bow aroundthe game and everything.
Al says, okay, let's go down tomichelle.
She's with malcolm.
But right at that instant,malcolm butler takes off.
(06:01):
He's like he's waited longenough.
He's waited long enough.
He's's waited long enough.
He's like I want to gocelebrate.
Well, I had to run him down onlive television, you know, it's
like I've never seen it.
I've never looked back at it.
Someday I will, but I've heard.
It's pretty funny.
I'm chasing him down, I turnaround and then I get a couple
of questions and so, yeah, itwas one of the more fun moments
(06:24):
and I can still visualize everysecond of it.
Speaker 4 (06:28):
I just want to give Pete Carroll a big hug as a Pats
fan, Because there's no waythey don't get that touchdown if
they run it.
You felt that way, didn't you?
Speaker 1 (06:39):
Oh yeah, as a fan you're not stopping him, and
it's Lynch, you know?
Oh yeah, and you're not goingto, didn't you?
Yeah, oh yeah, as a fan.
Speaker 4 (06:43):
You're not, not stopping him, and it's, it's
Lynch, you know oh yeah, andyou're not going to stop them.
I know and and and Pete Carroll, if you're out there, thank you
, but it feels like as a Patsfan, that that's how, like
that's beat themselves a lot andoverthought it or whatever.
Anyway, what a great.
I just loved I read that youwere standing behind Bill and I
(07:07):
thought that was like what acool thing.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
It was really cool.
Speaker 5 (07:13):
Michelle, I'm sorry to interrupt you but it makes me
think, okay, that's such a funtime and you get to do the post
game interview and that's allhappy, but I consider a lot of
what you had to do to be thehardest gig in sports, because
at halftime or in game but I'mjust saying at halftime or in
game you've got to go get thecoach who does not want to talk
(07:35):
to you.
I don't know if I've ever seena coach that, oh, I can't wait
to talk to Michelle.
But, you've got your one or twoquestions.
What was that like?
I mean, you had to be prepared,had to ask the right questions,
I'm sure, but that's a hard gig.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
It is a hard gig and thank you for acknowledging that
yeah, you got it.
Damn it no we need more credit.
You know, seriously, it wasvery challenging, particularly
with certain coaches Like who.
Well you know, bill did not lovethat halftime stuff,
particularly with certaincoaches Like who?
Well, bill did not love thathalftime stuff.
(08:11):
And listen, I get it.
I don't hold a grudge againstanyone, jim Harbaugh, against
anyone.
Because you're right, they'rein the middle of this battle,
right?
You only get so many games inthe NFL season.
This isn't the NBA, it's notMajor League Baseball, it's not
(08:31):
hockey.
You get this finite number andevery win is so critically
important.
So, yeah, at halftime they'rethinking what is my plan going
into the second half and they'renot thinking, gee, I want to
talk to Michelle or any otherreporter.
So a lot of them are reallygracious about it.
Believe me, 90% of them treatedme so well and you work really
(08:55):
hard to establish thoserelationships and sometimes
you're going to ask a questionthat comes off stupid and you
have to live with that and youdon't sleep that night.
But for the most part, you knowyou really listen.
We prepared like crazy, likethere were no days off during
the football.
No days off.
You know you finish a gameSunday night, you're on a plane
(09:15):
Monday morning and you'realready prepping for next Sunday
.
I'm not exaggerating.
You're on the plane home andyou're starting your prep for
the next Sunday.
There's no celebration, there'sno calming down, there's just
you're on your way and every dayuntil the next Sunday you're
focused on that game.
Yeah, you look back a littlebit and you critique.
(09:37):
We always watch film andcritique our performances on
every level, and but then youprep and you you don't, and
that's really what it comes downto.
It's like, you know, I kepttelling myself when it got
tedious.
You know, failing to prepare ispreparing to fail, so you can't
do that.
We're not failing here.
This is Sunday freaking nightfootball.
(09:58):
This is Monday night football,you know, and it's a crew that
holds everyone to the higheststandard.
So failure was not an option.
Speaker 4 (10:07):
And it looks like that's how you treated your
whole career.
Because am I right in this?
Your on-air debut was 94 at theUS Open.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
Yeah, so wow, yeah, well, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4 (10:20):
Is that right?
Speaker 1 (10:21):
I mean as far as like you know, I don't remember what
my very first on-air assignmentwas for CBS Sports.
Honestly, I remember my veryfirst assignment when I moved
from CBS to ESPN.
I remember they put me on WorldCup skiing.
That was interesting.
I broke my arm, but that'sanother story.
But yeah, no, you really, youknow, at that time there were
(10:46):
there weren't as many womendoing it as there are now.
So there was that sort of youknow, you got to work twice as
hard, which, by the way, I wouldnever complain about and I
would never suggest anyonecomplain about it.
You know that going in it'swhat you sign up for and so it's
what you have to do.
And so it was never like poorme, I've got to work twice as
(11:08):
hard.
No, it was.
How cool is this?
I get to show my stuff, man.
I get to work really hard andshow everybody.
So I was competing witheverybody.
But yeah, so you had to workhard.
Speaker 4 (11:20):
And that was cool.
I mean, I think Agassi won thatyear year, so that had to be
pretty cool to to be.
I mean, if that was early on,you know it's, it's pretty cool
yeah, he was still married tobrooke shields oh wow, that's
amazing.
Yeah, that's how long ago thatwas.
I mean, it's it's uh.
Did you get to interview him atall, or?
Speaker 1 (11:39):
yeah, I didn't.
I've interviewed andre um andand that's like those years are
kind of a blur to me becausewhen I first got hired at CBS
Sports I was sort of like inshock.
Seriously, I had done verylittle TV, I had done mostly
sports, talk radio.
I get hired by a network as myfirst television job, not a
local network, and I thoughtthat I could do it.
(12:04):
But I went through a lot ofhell along the way, making a lot
of mistakes.
But as Winston Churchill said,when you find yourself going
through hell, just keep going.
And so that's what I did and,believe me, there were times
where I dropped some seriousmistakes, but I wanted it bad
enough to just stick with it andlearn.
Speaker 6 (12:25):
Yeah, I thought that was Rodney Adkins that said that
that's the first time I'd heardit.
Hey and Michelle, do you getany hazard pay?
Because you mentioned you brokeyour arm at a skiing event?
Do you get hazard pay includedwith some of the because you're
around a lot of dangerous sportsand contact sports?
Hell, no, nothing extra.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
The stupid thing about that broken arm was we
were in kitzbühel, austria.
It was beautiful and I wascovering world cup skiing, which
I don't know why they put me onthat.
I was brand new at espn.
I had been doing, you know,mostly college football and
college basketball my entirecareer.
But you show up at espn andthey're like, yeah, we'll throw
on skin, see what she thinks ofthat.
So I'm over there in austriaand I'm coming home from dinner
(13:11):
one night to our little innwhere we were staying and I'm
crossing a bridge and my stupidboot slipped and instead you
know, I don't, I'd never likepracticed falling like my
husband played baseball.
You learn how to slide and falland all that and get your arms
out of the way.
No, my arm just wentinstinctively straight down and
and the next thing I know it waslaying in the snow like the
(13:33):
shape of an S you know, it wasjust, literally just.
I was like, oh my God.
And uh, they, they take me inan ambulance to this hospital in
Austria and this guy's yellingat me in German and then he
starts saying stop your crying,you are not like, I'm not, I'm
really in a lot of pain here,man.
Then he took an x-ray and hesaw that I had broken both bones
(13:55):
in my wrist and he came backand said I'm sorry, you are
really hurt, but no, no, hazardpay.
Speaker 6 (14:03):
Well, on your way out , as they're wheeling you out on
the stretcher, did youdramatically slowly reach up
your finger and number one likethat, anything that happens,
mark?
Speaker 1 (14:14):
Well, there were no cameras rolling, so I figured
man would see it.
Speaker 6 (14:17):
You know Well actually they walked me.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
They walked me up to our end this is one really funny
tidbit Walked me up to our end.
Our innkeeper, who didn't speakany English, looks at me.
He had to cut the glove off ofmy hand cause I was so swollen
and he handed me this glass ofliquor and he said drink it,
drink it.
And I said no, no, no, no, no,no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,no, no.
Drink it down.
So I just went, you know, andit kind of helped.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
Well, you know you been talking about your
interviews and stuff and I don'twant to get too political, but
I'm going to.
All right, I'm going to.
I just want to know what yourinterview would be like with, uh
, the legendary coach, tim waltzon the sideline, one of our
finest coaches.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
I'm just curious what you would ask him at halftime I
would probably say do you haveany idea what the hell you're
doing?
Are you just playing a parthere, coach?
Listen, I happen to live rightnow in Minnesota, where he is
still the governor and he'sstill a fool and he's still a
(15:27):
fraud and he's still a clown,and I seriously have zero
respect for the man.
He has driven this state intothe ground.
And so there are a lot ofpeople in my neighborhood who
are moving not just my day outfrom all over Minnesota, who
have left, who are, you know,probably heading your way, and
(15:49):
you know it's just it's.
It's been really sad.
I've lived here for half of mylife now.
I grew up, like I said, inSouthern California and spent
the first half of my life inCalifornia and then came here
and I I'm so sad to see thisstate the way that it is.
So I would have a.
You know I'd I honestly I'dlove to sit across from him and
(16:09):
interview him, but it would bemore like, uh, he would not
enjoy it, trust me that was avery awkward um campaign and and
watching him out there and andwatching him with the hand
waving and the awkward and thedouble wave.
Speaker 4 (16:24):
Yeah it just uh, I can't remember who it was, but
you, you, you called someone outon X, didn't you?
Or someone or another ESPNanalyst I think um had mentioned
him and about his masculinityor something you know, mina
Kim's or whatever had saidsomething.
Speaker 3 (16:42):
Mina Kim's.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
Yeah, she said, she said on the Dan Levitard podcast
, uh, which I don't recommend,the dan levitard podcast, uh,
which I don't recommend.
She said.
She said, um, that you know,this was a good kind of he
represented a good kind ofmasculinity.
And I, I didn't you know andand I just said, what is that?
(17:05):
What are you even talking about?
Like, I guess, is toxicmasculinity was just a joke to
(17:33):
me and so, yeah, I, um, Idisagreed with her adamantly.
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I don't know anyone who could look at Tim Waltz and
say that's a picture ofmasculinity.
Speaker 5 (19:03):
I mean it's.
You know it's really sad for me.
I love Minnesota, my wife isfrom Minnesota, her family is
from there, I'm from Iowa, so Ispent a.
I I love Minnesota, my wife isfrom Minnesota, her family is
from there, I'm from Iowa, so Ispent a lot of time in Minnesota
, and I would say, probablyoutside of Metro, you know,
minneapolis, st Paul, there's,it's, it's still maybe mostly
(19:24):
red, but obviously the citiesare very blue, you know.
And then there's this thingwith you know the god, the men
and women, sports, and how isthat going to go in minnesota
here, because it it looks like aslippery slope.
They're getting in it.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
It does, and this has a lot to do with tim walls and
we've got a very slim majorityright now in the house in
minnesota, a very slimrepublican majority.
But uh, this is this issue'sthe no-brainer right it should
be a no-brainer it should be ano-brainer.
So I will say, uh, as we'rerecording this, I'm getting
(20:01):
ready to do a panel in a fewdays with riley gains, who's
coming here to rally at thecapitol, and some other folks
and, um, you know, I've, I'veI've been in touch with Riley
and I got to know each othervery early on in this fight and,
um, I think her courage and herwillingness to just be
steadfast and keep speaking outon this and she has absolutely
(20:24):
no fear has been great for thismovement.
So we're going to keep trying.
Like I said, I don't know whyyou would choose this hill to
die on, but I think that we areso far left in our politics here
in Minnesota, like you said,outside of the Twin Cities,
outside of the metro, you seeTrump flags all over the place,
(20:45):
right, but you get here wherethere's just dense population
and by dense I mean they're kindof dense, but there are a lot
of people and they think youknow that Tim Walls and Keith
Ellison, our Attorney General,and the left are really cool and
really great for standing up,for you know, they position it
(21:08):
as we're standing up for transrights and they're forgetting
that there are victims in thisand those are the girls and um,
you know, where are the womenstanding up for these girls and
I I hope they come out of thewoodwork here yeah, we've.
Speaker 5 (21:24):
We've been lucky enough to have riley on here and
, yes, she's done what she'sdone over the years is I mean,
everyone has to appreciate whatshe's done, the fight that she's
fought.
It's been incredible.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
And we can't believe she had to fight for that.
Speaker 4 (21:38):
Yeah, that was even a fight it still, it still feels
like we're making this up.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
I know.
Speaker 4 (21:44):
What are we?
What are we arguing about?
Men and women's sports?
Is that a thing?
That's a thing.
We always talk about it.
It's crazy.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
It feels like the world has tipped off its axis.
We're just like what'shappening here.
Did we enter some other timewarp or weird form of gravity
around the earth?
Yeah, it's ridiculous, thiswhole phrase.
Trans women are real women is,so then what part is trans then?
(22:16):
Why do you have to say trans?
Well, because you're not a realwoman.
And it's look, you can dowhatever you want, you can live
however you want, but once youstart to impact fairness in
sports, or you're to impactfairness in sports or you're.
Look, we know there are peoplewho have abused this, people in
(22:39):
prison who have decided totransition while in prison so
they can be transferred to thewomen's prisons.
I mean, this stuff is so absurd.
Speaker 4 (22:43):
At least, at least you can, at least that makes
sense, At least okay, At leastthat's a last resort.
I mean you gotta I need to getout of here.
You know what I mean?
You gotta have something to do,that's a lot of that's a last
resort.
Speaker 6 (22:49):
I mean you gotta I need to get out of here.
You gotta have something to dothat's a lot of time to kill.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
No that's a very good point um but you know it, yeah,
this is, this is absurd.
And you look at these, thesebiological boys who are
competing, and you go really,leah thomas, the.
The photographs will live ininfamy and they will be in our
history books and 50 years fromnow or 100 years from now,
hopefully, people will be sayingwhat in the hell were they
(23:19):
thinking?
Speaker 4 (23:20):
Yeah, I still don't know where those people are,
though, not to end this topic,but who supports it?
I mean, I know they're outthere.
I've never met someone who says, yes, men and women's sports.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
You know it's hard to meet somebody down here that
supports it.
Speaker 4 (23:34):
It's really hard to meet somebody.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
No, there was a girl that just I saw today, a
15-year-old basketball playerthat refused to play.
Her name is Frances Stalt orsomething like that.
I can't remember her last name.
Speaker 5 (23:48):
And really that's what they should be doing.
They should just be refusing.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
She refused to play, but now she's getting backlash
for refusing to play.
I mean, you would think theywere just like, okay, she didn't
want to play, so we'll continueon, but now she's getting
bullied.
Yeah, I think they've accusedher of bullying, yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
Exactly.
It's like who's bullying whohere?
Um, you know, yeah, it's I.
I have said on x and every I'veshouted from the rooftops don't
play, don't compete exactly andyou know we had that nevada uh
women's volleyball team that didthat.
That said we're not gonna, we'regonna boycott or we're gonna,
(24:22):
you know, throw in the towel onsome of these games.
We'll forfeit because we don'twant to play against this San
Jose State team that has a male,you know, a trans gal playing
on the team.
We don't want to do it and theytook a lot of guff even from
their own university.
But I am so happy to see thesedevelopments and we're seeing it
(24:44):
.
We're seeing some signs ofcourage and I think courage
begets courage.
So I hope that this is kind ofa movement among young girls
that starts to grow.
You know, that's, that's whatwe're hoping for.
I hope so too.
Speaker 5 (24:59):
You mentioned Riley as being fearless, but I would
argue that you're prettyfearless as well.
I've seen you go into thelion's den.
I've seen you go on, bill Maher.
I've seen you go into thelion's den.
I've seen you go on, bill Maher, speak your Mind.
I've seen you co-host the View.
This is Neil's favorite showthe View.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
Neil, come on, yeah, right.
Speaker 5 (25:24):
But you have to tell me what that experience was like
, because I think you were onthere a couple days and you
talked about you were justgiving objectionable views on
Colin Kaepernick or COVID or thevaccines which at that time, oh
, don't you dare do that.
Can you share what thatexperience was like and did you
expect the kind of backlash yougot following that?
Speaker 1 (25:44):
I was prepared for it and the interesting thing about
it is some people think thatNBC fired me because of that,
and that's not at all.
What happened?
It, it, it, it.
What happened was that this wasgoing to be my final season on
on Sunday night football,because I wanted to go speak my
mind more.
So I asked permission to go onthe view when I had a week off
(26:07):
at the end of the season, andthey said, okay, yeah, just you
know, be careful.
I guess I wasn't careful enoughand I said some things, but I
got to tell you, sitting on thatset and even in the early
morning, you go into the NewYork studio and you have this
meeting and you're all sittingthere, all you know, whoopie and
everyone and you're talkingabout what the topics are going
(26:29):
to be, and it is like it's notexciting, it's not energetic,
it's not happy it's not whoopingjoy and sunny, I mean yeah
everyone makes a point of that.
It's so ironic, isn't it?
Whoopie, joy and sunny and it'slike none of those things, and
so it.
(26:50):
You know, I honestly um, andthey were considering me for the
conservative chair, and Iremember I one of my last times
there, the head of talent camedown and said well, what do you
think?
And what I wanted to say to himis you don't have enough money
to get me to do this showbecause it was really, it was
(27:11):
honestly depressing, it was wellthey're, they're very sad
people yeah they're
Speaker 6 (27:17):
very grumpy, bitter angry.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
Yeah, they're very grumpy and just you know, there
was no joy.
There was no joy, I'm sorry,there was.
No, there was no fun in it anduh, and I tried, and I put on a
brave face and I smiled thewhole way through and I thought
I'm just going to be a happywarrior.
And if it had been honestly,you know, like informed debate,
(27:43):
informed discussion, that wasrespectful, I could have lived
with it.
But it wasn't.
And in fact there was one timein a commercial break and I'm
sorry, joy Behar, I am going tocall you out on this.
Speaker 4 (27:57):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (27:58):
I had mentioned that my brother was not getting
vaccinated, that he didn't wantto get vaccinated, and she told
me to tell my brother he's a.
You know, she called him a name.
Speaker 5 (28:08):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
And I said, you know, yeah, like a selfish SOB.
And I said, well, yeah, I'm notgoing to tell him that, but you
know I respect your feelingseven though, whatever.
So, yeah, there was some.
I mean, and for someone like mewho prepares super hard for
stuff and does the research, issuper hard for stuff and does
(28:31):
the research, I was kind ofamazed at some of the stuff that
they would just say without anybacking at all.
Now, it's an opinion show,they're allowed to do that, but
it was frustrating.
Speaker 4 (28:42):
It's funny to me how, when you're on the left, you
can have a very strong opinionabout whatever you want and say
whatever you want, and whenyou're conservative, it's like
be careful what you say why isthat yeah?
Speaker 2 (28:56):
I really don't know.
Speaker 4 (28:57):
It's like we.
We ask it every time on theshow.
That's what they did to oursong.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
I mean as soon as our song came out, we the four of
us were labeled racistimmediately by whoopi goldberg
and everybody on the view I mean, it feels like, you know, in
america, it feels obvious thatwe should be able to have an
opinion either way.
Speaker 4 (29:15):
You know why is it bad if you have a different
opinion from someone on the left?
They're very grumpy people.
I tell you what they're verygrumpy and you can't really have
a conversation with them.
They get very sensitive.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
Yeah, I bet you saw your future if you took that job
.
What that would be like I didit would have been a constant
bombardment on you.
Speaker 1 (29:38):
And you look at someone like Meghan McCain who
quit because she just couldn'ttake it, and I sat there and
this was post-Meghan whilethey're looking to fill that
chair and I thought I get it.
I understand.
You know, even when they hadguests on, that would come out
(29:58):
and we do.
You know the chit chat with theguests.
You could feel the guests justglaring at you I mean, it was
like you know, hi, nice to meetyou.
And then you know it was.
It was really quite amazing.
And the audience, uh is thefifth member of the view.
Uh, so you know, like you'vegot all these opposing opinions
(30:20):
and the entire audience is intheir palm and you're just
trying to make a point and uh,it was.
Speaker 4 (30:27):
Yeah, it was challenging, it was something
yeah, and, and and it feels likeall of media is part of the
view.
So you're fighting everything,everything you know.
So it's.
But, like kurt said, thank youfor speaking up and it's so I'm
curious.
Speaker 5 (30:42):
so with the view, because I've heard, like
elizabeth hasselbeck, who was onthere for a while, say that
she's actually friends withWhoopi, even though they have
completely differing thoughts,especially on politics and stuff
.
When you had those couple ofdays with them, did you like you
said I just want to make sureI'm hearing right you just
didn't have any camaraderie withthose hosts at all.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
I would say that Whoopi was probably the most
open-minded.
Even though I disagreed withher vehemently about a number of
things, and still do, I wouldsay that she was probably the
most authentic.
Speaker 4 (31:22):
How did Ted Danson do it?
I don't know.
I want to have Ted.
Speaker 6 (31:24):
Danson on and I want to ask and I love.
Speaker 1 (31:27):
Ted Danson.
Speaker 4 (31:27):
I'm like bro, that's actually a great idea.
There's a lot of questions.
I have so many questions, buthow did you do it, ted wake up
in the morning and there'sWhoopi yikes, sorry, that's just
been eating at me for like 20years now you've been awesome
sorry, the truth is that's wheremy brain goes.
(31:48):
Oh my goodness, what a view.
Speaker 1 (31:51):
But it was really yeah, I would have.
That's why you guys aresongwriters you know how to put
those words in the right places.
Yeah, it was just, I would saythat Sonny and Joy were the most
hostile.
Speaker 4 (32:06):
I can't do it.
Their names?
They're not I know isn't it.
Speaker 3 (32:11):
I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (32:12):
It's something, it's truly something, and you know,
and.
I'll give Sunny a little bit ofcredit.
There were times in thecommercial I felt like she was
asked behind the scenes, maybeto try to be nice to me in the
commercial breaks.
So she would just turn to meand say, so are you having fun?
But it never felt, you know, itnever felt authentic and I'm
(32:34):
yeah, I just couldn't do that.
I couldn't do it.
And let me tell you this reallyquick Chelsea Clinton was a
guest on the show one time andso each of us got to ask a
question and they sort of helpedshape my question for me, which
was fine.
My question was going to beabout the election and how, you
know, the Democrats have allthese issues unemployment,
(32:57):
inflation, what are you mostconcerned with?
So, you know, as a Democrat,and her answer, and I wanted to
go put my head in a stove.
Her answer was my biggestconcern is that everybody has
(33:17):
the right to vote that everybodyhas access to that and I wanted
to scream and I had to fight myinstinct to say what makes you
think that people don't haveaccess to voting in America.
But I knew she would point atGeorgia, andia and she would
just and it just there's notenough time in a show like that
to really go back and forth.
But damn did I want to and Ireally regretted that I didn't
(33:38):
follow chelsea clinton wastalking about dead people too
well michelle there may be a uh.
Speaker 6 (33:47):
I don't know if you've heard about this, but you
know because you were raised inCalifornia, right, you were
there for a pretty good while.
There's a podcast that's newlylaunching that is supposed to be
about truth and where you canreally get some great points in
and a great discussion.
Gavin Newsom's new podcast, andso I was wondering if anybody's
(34:11):
contacted you yet or if theyreached out to you.
Speaker 1 (34:15):
Not yet.
I'm so disappointed.
Speaker 6 (34:17):
Yeah, because you're from there and you're a huge
celebrity.
I mean, I don't understand.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
You know, I heard him say he wants to mix it up with
the MAGA architects.
The architects of MAGA, and I'mthinking to myself you are so
transparent, you want to run forpresident.
So bad, and you want todistract everyone away from the
disaster that you've made inCalifornia the fires, the
(34:42):
homelessness, the immigrationpolicy, the sanctuary cities,
the crime, the crap on thestreets of San Francisco.
Sanctuary cities, the crime,the crap on the streets of San
Francisco.
You, just now, you think if youhave a shiny new podcast, we're
all going to forget thatbecause you decide to mix it up
with the architects of MAGA.
Speaker 7 (35:00):
I can't wait to see who he has on, but I hope that
they, I hope that they allreally hold his.
Speaker 1 (35:06):
This is bad timing to say his feet to the fire.
This is bad timing to say hisfeet to the fire, but I really
do hope that they, they hold himto.
You know, they, they, theyspeak truth to power.
Speaker 4 (35:17):
A lot, a lot of people have moved here from
California.
I got some friends that justopened a business here a couple
of years ago moved here duringCOVID or shortly after COVID
somewhere in that timeframe.
But they call them gruesomeNewsome yeah you know, and and
by no means are, are my friendsnecessarily conservative, but
(35:39):
they're probably moderate, likenormal people with common sense
normal and and now they have abusiness here and it's like I
don't know what.
If you're from california, whatgood has he done?
Honestly, like I don't.
I guess they'll argue with meon that, but oh, I don't get it.
Speaker 1 (35:57):
You get no argument from me, none.
I have a niece and two nephewsout there who probably can't
afford to live there, and sotheir solution is well, let's
build little single family orsingle person dwellings in other
people's backyards.
That's one.
(36:18):
The other is, with all of thisdestruction in the Palisades,
pacific Palisades, there alongthe coast, they want to put in
instead of just letting peoplerebuild homes.
All it's got to includeaffordable housing and we've got
to include a bunch of apartmentbuildings.
And you know it's.
I don't, I listen.
(36:38):
I have a dear friend I'm notgoing to name him right now
because he's 10 times morefamous than I am, which isn't
really saying a lot, but he'slike 20 times more, anyway, big
time and he's in LA and he'salways telling me to come back.
And I said there's no way I'mcoming back.
And he said things are startingto change.
You know Gavin's going to getthat that, uh, and Karen Bass,
(37:00):
she'll get ousted.
And I, I, I, just I, I'm notbuying it yet and until I
actually see that, there's noway I go back.
I go there all the time to seemy mom.
She passed away a year or soago and so I don't really get
out there anymore and I you knowit's so sad to me.
What a beautiful, beautifulstate.
(37:21):
My dad was so proud of theGolden State and he used to call
San Francisco the jewel of theWestern Hemisphere and you know
we felt so fortunate to beraised there and it's just
really sad.
Speaker 2 (37:37):
It is sad it is to be raised there and it's just uh,
it's just really sad, it is.
No, it's just such a beautifulplace and to have those type of
characters that have overtakensuch a beautiful place is not
fair and it pisses me off.
Speaker 5 (37:48):
It's really unbelievable because, like
you're saying, san francisco,you know we were lucky enough to
be there a long time ago and itis one of the most beautiful
places on the planet, or it was,it was it still is minus the
people.
Well, no, that's you godowntown and it's not good.
Speaker 1 (38:05):
Um, yeah, there are sections now you're right that
are just impassable so what, uh?
Speaker 5 (38:11):
so what brought you to minnesota then?
Was it work well?
Speaker 1 (38:16):
it was work.
It I was.
I was my first full-time sportscasting job was in Charlotte,
north Carolina, and I didn'thave a real good experience
there with the whole the, thework environment, the person I
was working with, et cetera.
And so I really wanted to leaveand I want and in this business
you just keep moving to thenext biggest market, hoping to
get like you know.
(38:36):
Okay, I was in Charlotte, Iwant to move up to a bigger
market where you're, you knowyou have a bigger opportunity.
And so I got a call from thestation in Minnesota, a
full-time all-sports station,and they did a great job
recruiting me and they offeredme, you know, the position on
the local Vikings broadcast andI thought this is my first step
(38:58):
into the NFL, which was the goal.
So I took it and then I met myhusband and so here, we stay,
but he is even tired of it now,and he was raised here.
Speaker 2 (39:13):
We have room in Nashville.
Speaker 6 (39:16):
We have room in.
Speaker 2 (39:16):
Nashville.
Speaker 4 (39:17):
Lots of people are moving here, michelle.
Speaker 2 (39:19):
Minnesota needs her though.
Speaker 4 (39:21):
Minnesota.
I mean listening to you talkand how, like you said, very
well spoken.
I think you have a genuine carefor the people there.
It's like they need you upthere.
I mean Minnesota.
If you're in Minnesota, youneed something to look forward
to.
Okay, so totally this is a goodthing.
Speaker 5 (39:39):
We're going to let you do this, michelle.
We're going to let you breaknews on the Try that in a Small
Town podcast.
Come on, it has to happen.
Speaker 1 (39:46):
You can either confirm nor deny.
Speaker 5 (39:48):
Uh-oh, are you going to make a run for a Senate seat?
Speaker 1 (39:54):
I will neither confirm nor deny.
Speaker 3 (39:56):
Gosh, dang it.
Speaker 4 (39:57):
I'm sorry, that's a politician she's gonna do it
because they need her there, Imean, I'm gonna confirm it
tonight on the try that podcastwait a minute.
Speaker 1 (40:10):
I mean, you know, look there are.
There are some really goodpotential candidates that we
have here, and so I'm prayingthat someone good will step up,
because the governorship iscoming up.
We've got to get rid of TimWalls and, yes, we have an open
Senate seat coming up.
Speaker 3 (40:29):
I'm sorry, coach, how do you get this?
Speaker 1 (40:32):
on Coach so many names for him, so many names.
Speaker 4 (40:36):
Do you know anybody who actually knows him or
actually can say anything?
He seems so.
I think Bugs Bunny does.
It's so weird when he walkedout in one of those campaign
events.
Speaker 5 (40:50):
He just looks so disingenuous he doesn't look
real to me.
He shakes his wife's hand.
Speaker 4 (40:55):
It's like this is weird.
Speaker 1 (40:57):
Don't you think that at a certain point into the
campaign that Kamala sort ofwent?
What have I done?
Speaker 5 (41:05):
Okay, michelle, you got to answer this for me
because we had this questionhere, a lot Like when that was
happening and she was pickingher vice president.
I think everybody thoughtShapiro Right, like I would get
that, and I'd be like actuallyhe's pretty good.
I would have been worried aboutthat Me too.
Speaker 1 (41:24):
I would have been worried too.
Speaker 5 (41:26):
And then the waltz thing came and everybody's like
what?
Speaker 3 (41:30):
Like I actually don't .
It's almost like self-sabotage.
Speaker 5 (41:33):
What do you think that strategy was?
Speaker 1 (41:35):
I think he was the last one stand.
I don't think people wanted to.
I think shapiro knew okay, andthat it was.
It was going to be a failure.
That she was, that she was adisaster.
And he didn't want to hitch hiswagon and and he thought I've
got a political future and Idon't want to destroy it.
Tim wallace has clearlydestroyed his political future.
I hope I I really like tobelieve Minnesota is going to do
(42:00):
better.
Listen, the local media here inMinnesota didn't do one iota of
vetting this guy.
And then you get the nationalmedia scrutiny and suddenly all
these things are coming out andyou know it was a whole
different story out and you knowit was a whole different story.
(42:23):
So I I hope that minnesotanshave opened up their eyes enough
to say you know a doorknobwould be better in the
government.
Speaker 4 (42:26):
You're, you've got, you've got to come on this
podcast all the time absolutelyit's like you're.
It's one of my favorites.
Yeah, you're a breath of freshair hey, are you a country music
fan?
Speaker 2 (42:37):
I, I am really.
Speaker 5 (42:39):
So who do you like?
Speaker 1 (42:42):
I well, I love jason aldean god there you go, you
passed thank you, thank youyou know what?
I'll be honest with you, thisis sort of um.
In the last five years I'vestarted started to absorb more
country music and I I do thinkthere's, there's, there's.
It's just become more um of mystyle and there there's a lot of
(43:06):
it that I just really am intoand my son is really into it and
that kind of he's a.
He's got a very eclectic musictaste but, um, he's introduced
me to a lot and I wish I couldremember all the names because
there's some really good stuffthat he plays on his playlist.
But yeah, I I want to get to.
You know, my husband's neverbeen to Nashville, I think.
(43:27):
Actually he came down as abaseball player and played
against Vanderbilt but probablygot their asses kicked, but
anyway, Vanderbilt's got a goodteam.
Vanderbilt's got a good team,but I got to get down there and
I got to listen to some music.
Speaker 5 (43:40):
Yeah, it's a great place, to be for sure.
And yes, vandy is always good,always has a great baseball team
.
Hey, you know, before we go, Iwant to ask you this because,
yeah, tony and I talk about thisa lot.
We take for granted what we'vebeen able to do and be on stage.
And it's funny like sometimeswe'll have guests out and
(44:01):
they're enamored with beingbackstage or side stage for a
concert.
But as sports fans, I'm lookingat you and I'm thinking
Michelle gets to be on thesideline.
Oh my gosh, she's courtside.
Oh my gosh, she's us.
Did you ever get to look atthat and just say, oh, I'm so
blessed, or was it always?
Speaker 1 (44:19):
you were just so in the middle of work, work, work
that you weren't able toappreciate it I think it was the
latter, but I'll tell you thismy I knew when my last game was
going to be.
I stayed a couple seasonslonger than I had planned to.
I wanted to get out and starttalking, which you can't really
do when you're on the number oneshow in prime time.
You can't talk the way I'vebeen talking here with you guys.
(44:43):
And I and I again nevercomplained, that's what I signed
up for.
I knew that.
But, um, after COVID andeverything, I just I stuck with
the group and and they're like,just get us through that
Superbowl in LA.
And so I said, okay.
So I knew that Superbowl in LAand it ended up being the Rams
and the Bengals.
I knew that was going to be mylast game.
(45:03):
And after it ended, I was aboutto just walk off the field, like
I always do, like I have thisroutine.
I'd finish, I'd interview da,da, da, and then I'd go back to
the trucks and I stopped myself.
I went wait a minute, wait aminute, wait a minute.
Don't forget, this is the lasttime you'll ever do this.
This is it.
So turn around.
(45:25):
And I physically made myselfturn around.
I was looking around thatstadium and that LA stadium is
stunning.
And you know, the confetti wasstill coming down and the Rams
were still out there on thefield celebrating and all the
rest.
And I was looking and I startedto cry and I went oh God, you
don't want to do this, this isnot what you want to do, you
(45:47):
know.
So I'm trying to keep ittogether.
And Andrew Whitworth, who was,you know, one of the offensive
linemen for the Rams saw thisand he came running over and he
gave me a hug and I'll neverforget that Um it.
That was a moment where I lookedaround and I said you have
really been lucky and privilegedand blessed to do this for as
long as you've done it on thelevel that you've done it and
(46:10):
taken this moment, and so I havea very vivid memory of that.
That last moment on the on thefield field, I have been
incredibly lucky and I thinkthat every day I'm away from it,
I allow myself to reflect alittle bit more.
Right now I'm so focused onsort of fighting the good fight
and trying to speak for peoplewho don't want to take that risk
(46:33):
, and I'm willing to take thatrisk and I don't care that I
don't reflect a ton, but everynow and then, especially when I
get asked a question like this,I do know I was hella lucky.
Speaker 4 (46:48):
There's a cool parallel as I listen to you
speak about how well preparedyou are and how your whole
career you've prepared forwhat's next, you know, the
following week or the followinggame.
I think when people ask us thesame thing, like about playing
shows and touring and makingalbums, it just kind of hit me
when you said that, like youspend so much time preparing
(47:11):
that you've you forget toreflect, like because you just
it's like a hamster wheel andthe work's never done, so it
just keeps going and that's it.
It's a really interestingparallel that we that we have
with athletes too.
I think that's why, you know, alot of athletes want to play
music and a lot of musicianswant to be athletes, because
it's very similar in the sensethat you you never really stop
(47:33):
repairing and then one day itmakes you.
You stop, it stops, and younever prepared for that, you
know right, I still thinkbrady's coming back I'm gonna
call that.
Speaker 3 (47:45):
You need to stop thinking that he's still hung up
on will levis.
Speaker 2 (47:50):
I mean, he's got he's got his will levis cup here and
he's still we're on the huntfor a qb here in tennessee here
I'm gonna swap this cup for a qb, but okay, well, maybe that cup
will get you something we don'tknow what are the rumors.
Speaker 1 (48:05):
What are the rumors that you're hearing?
Speaker 5 (48:07):
um no one well here obviously you know they've got
the number one pick.
My thing is that if they blowit, I'm gonna be very, very
upset, like I know that thoseguys aren't generational
quarterbacks, but you don't getthe number one pick often, or
you hope you don't, right?
So if they don't take the camor or maybe the you know I got
(48:29):
cam ward.
Speaker 2 (48:30):
I love cam ward.
Speaker 5 (48:32):
So I don't know.
I'll be disappointed if theydon't, because we can't go into
the season with Will, we'll getKirk Cousins and you'll like it.
I like Kirk.
Speaker 4 (48:41):
I like Kirk.
Speaker 1 (48:43):
I will tell you you would love Kirk.
Speaker 2 (48:45):
I've gotten to know, kirk over the years.
Speaker 1 (48:48):
He's a great guy and he's a better quarterback than
people think.
He's been shuffled through somany different systems.
It's ridiculous.
I agree, but he's a very goodplayer and a lot of offensive
coordinators really respect hisgame.
It's going to be interesting.
I will warn you this you knowthat number one pick can be
deceiving, like Jamarcus Russellwas taken with the number one
(49:12):
pick by the then Oakland Raidersand it was a terrible pick.
It didn't work out so great forthe Raiders.
But you know it's reallyinteresting the scouting and all
the stuff that they do to findthe right person.
That's all evolved and, I'msure, gotten much more detailed.
But it's kind of a blessing anda curse to have that number one
(49:34):
pick because, like you said, ifyou blow it, your fans may
never forgive you and you maynever forgive yourself hey, I
like taking qb's deeper in thedraft I mean of course you do.
Speaker 4 (49:44):
You're a patch fan, but look at brock purdy though.
Yeah, I know, you know I mean alot of times those, those
hidden gems, are in there, Ithink.
Speaker 1 (49:51):
I think montana was a third round pick, I know, I
mean I think michelle toffolawould be a good general manager
for the tennessee titans well,come on down hey, real quick,
what are the vikings?
Speaker 5 (50:01):
gonna do?
What are the vikings gonna do?
Is it mccarthy?
Speaker 1 (50:05):
I have no idea.
I have no idea.
I don't know how he'sprogressing.
I don't have a clue yet and andthat's part of the thing, like
I, I don't pay as closeattention to all of it as I used
to.
Like, like I would have had ananswer for you, but I really
don't.
And it's where you know.
It's still a little bit early,so we'll see, but my gosh,
april's creeping up, isn't it?
Speaker 5 (50:26):
It sure is, michelle.
We're thankful for you.
Listen, we know you didn't haveto come on here.
We appreciate you, weappreciate your voice.
Speaker 6 (50:33):
This was so fun.
Speaker 4 (50:39):
Please come back.
We should be like a regular onhere.
Speaker 1 (50:40):
It's so amazing.
You let me know.
Speaker 5 (50:43):
When you declare your Senate run, we'll have you back
on.
Oh sorry, I know it's happening.
Speaker 4 (50:49):
I can tell it's happening.
Speaker 3 (50:51):
I'm going to call it right here.
Speaker 1 (50:54):
You do what you want Seriously, Michelle, we
appreciate you.
Thank you so much for beinghere.
Speaker 5 (50:56):
Thank you want.
Speaker 1 (50:57):
You, do you.
Speaker 5 (50:57):
Seriously, Michelle, we appreciate you.
Thank you so much for beinghere.
Speaker 1 (51:00):
Thank you so much.
Thank you, guys.
Good to see you Thank you Allright guys.
Speaker 5 (51:04):
That was pretty awesome.
Michelle Tafoya to me she's gotlike a Hall of Fame career dude
Talking about Olympics.
You're talking about NFL SuperBowls.
I didn't even know.
The US Open thing, marchMadness, she's done it all.
Speaker 2 (51:18):
No, she's a pro Live TV.
Speaker 6 (51:20):
Superstar.
Speaker 2 (51:21):
To be that smooth, so smart I was thinking of that
too.
Speaker 5 (51:23):
Live TV I was going to ask that because it's like
that ain't easy, right, heck?
No, tony and I are talkingabout sometimes we'll do award
shows or late night shows.
And doing something live isobviously a lot different than
when you get the chance to say,ah, screw it up, let me do
another.
Take she's on live tv for aliving.
A hundred million people doingwatching the super bowl, you
(51:46):
better be on, oh she's a pro.
Speaker 4 (51:48):
She was hopefully she comes back and one of my
favorite we've guests we've had.
I mean, she was so smart andquick and you know, really,
really fun.
Speaker 2 (51:58):
The one thing I wanted to ask her.
I wanted to know when she gotlike into football, into sports,
what age I wish.
I would have asked her that.
Speaker 5 (52:06):
She alluded to it really briefly.
I wish we would have expandedon it.
I think she grew up a 49ers fanbecause she didn't.
She say she was from California.
So I think during the JoeMontana years, years, steve
young, but yeah, we should havegotten into that a little bit
more.
But I think football was likeher thing because that's what I
was curious like she did.
Speaker 2 (52:26):
She did it all I think politics is gonna be her
thing now, though, dude, shedidn't answer straight up.
Hey, you know minnesotaminnesota needs her.
Speaker 4 (52:34):
minnesota is a great state.
We we have played up inMinnesota and all over the place
so many times Great people.
What's going on up there is ashame really, so hopefully she
can get in there.
Speaker 6 (52:49):
I mean she's so smart .
Oh yeah, she's a tough lady.
I mean, go from the NFL topolitics, she's ready.
Speaker 2 (52:57):
She's ready, she'd be ready, or, general manager,
tennessee Titan Could be, couldbe.
Speaker 4 (53:02):
That's what we need.
We got a new stadium, but noteam.
It's going to be rough.
Speaker 5 (53:07):
We just need a quarterback, guys, we just need
a quarterback.
Speaker 2 (53:10):
Cam Ward.
Cam Ward C-Dub All right.
Speaker 4 (53:13):
C-Dub.
You know I agree with her,though I think I don't know
about.
I like going quarterbacksdeeper in the draft.
Speaker 5 (53:21):
Well, I mean, it's just not here we go, it is.
Speaker 3 (53:25):
But the.
Thing is.
Speaker 5 (53:26):
It's like, okay, you can cite Brady and Brock Purdy,
but that's about it, you know,and that's over 20 years.
And yeah, the number one pickis probably a coin flip.
It really is and it's a lot ofinvestment.
But if you don't got a QB man,you got to get one, you got to
(53:46):
try.
Speaker 4 (53:47):
Do you think they need to build though?
Okay, so you start buildingother pieces.
They'll then get a veteran tocome in for a year or two.
Speaker 5 (53:54):
Maybe it is.
Speaker 2 (54:02):
If that's the thing, do you bring like we talked
about this, do you bring aaronrogers and you bring kirk
cousins in, but they're in a badspot though.
I mean they get, they got.
They have to think about their,their, their dancing between
quarterback offensive line.
It's like they they've got toget the offensive line that's
going to be cohesive with theright quarterback.
I mean it's such a hard gig,hard gig.
I wouldn't want that gig.
Yeah, it is At all, but that'sthe dilemma that they're in
(54:23):
right now.
Speaker 5 (54:25):
Well, listen, we appreciate you guys.
You know we have a lot ofguests right and it's like
sometimes we're right down themiddle.
It's our bread and butter ismusic.
We love having musical peopleon talking with them, and
sometimes we venture out.
We love having musical peopleon talking with them, and
sometimes we venture out.
It's sports, or sometimes it'spolitical, like with Michelle.
Sometimes it's a little of both.
You never know what you'regoing to get.
You never know what you'regoing to get.
(54:45):
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It's been, uh, an awesome ride.
By the way, ed leave us a good,another good comment.
Speaker 6 (55:14):
He's always first with the comment and you notice
with ed.
Speaker 5 (55:18):
he'll give us like a play-by-play, he'll give you a
comment and then, like 20minutes later, he's like with
another part of the podcast.
Speaker 6 (55:25):
I read some good ones today, did you?
Yeah, he's very affirmative ofeverybody.
He compliments, encourages.
You know he's really good.
And he was talking about yournickname.
The new nickname currently it'sCobb for Kurt, of which I'm not
100% sure I'm on board yet.
Not that that matters If it'sCobb.
(55:46):
I'll go with it.
He mentioned another one.
He had one more I thought waspretty good.
I can't remember it right now,but we're going to keep working
on that.
Speaker 2 (55:53):
Ed, you just keep sending them in.
He's from Iowa, keep sendingthem in.
He's from Iowa, I mean right inthe middle of America, middle
the heartland, you're right inthe middle.
Speaker 5 (56:01):
It is what it is.
Speaker 2 (56:01):
We can come up with something that has to do with,
right in the middle, you.
You are the heartland of thispodcast.
Speaker 5 (56:09):
Oh yeah, thanks, Neil , I appreciate it and happy
birthday, by the way.
Ah, thank you, we are coming toyou from the Patriot Mobile
Studios.
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Speaker 3 (56:23):
We'll see you guys next week.
This whole phrase.
Trans women are real, women is,so then what part is trans then
?
Why do you have to say trans?
Well, because you're not a realwoman and it's look.
You can do whatever you want,you can live however you want,
but once you start to impactfairness in sports or your look,
(00:23):
we know there are people whohave abused this.
There was one time in acommercial break and I'm sorry,
joy Behar, I am going to callyou out on this.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
I had mentioned that my brother was not getting
vaccinated, that he didn't wantto get vaccinated, and she told
me to tell my brother he's a.
You know, she called him a name.
Speaker 5 (00:40):
Oh, my God.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
And I said you know, yeah, like a selfish SOB.
And I called him a name, oh mygod.
And I said you know, yeah, likea selfish sob.
And I said, well, yeah, I'm notgonna tell him that, but you
know, I respect your feelings,you know whatever we're gonna
let you do this, michelle.
Speaker 5 (00:52):
We're gonna let you break news on the try that in a
small town podcast.
Come on you can either confirmnor deny.
Oh, are you going to make a runfor a Senate seat?
Speaker 3 (01:12):
The Try that in a Small Town podcast begins now.
Speaker 5 (01:14):
All right, welcome back.
We are coming to you from thePatriot Mobile Studios.
This is the Try that in a SmallTown podcast.
You may have noticed we'relined up tonight.
Lined up, we got TK.
I see you, kalo noticed we'relined up tonight.
Lined up, we got TK.
I see you, kalo.
I see you Thrash.
I'm Kurt and tonight we'resuper excited.
This is going to be awesome.
We have a guest.
You've seen her on Monday NightFootball, sunday Night Football
(01:38):
.
You've seen her on the NBAMarch Madness, the Olympics, I
mean four-time Emmy Award winner.
Host of the Michelle Tafoyapodcast.
We have Michelle Tafoya.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
Hi guys, what a nice intro yeah.
Speaker 5 (01:55):
Well, I mean, that's a pretty stupid resume actually.
I was writing that down.
I'm like, oh my God, are youkidding?
That's the Olympics.
Like I said, that's four orfive times at the Olympics you
did the NBA.
Of course, I said March Madness, tennis.
You ended up in football.
Was that kind of the end game?
Is that where you wanted to be?
What was kind of like where youwanted to get through your
(02:16):
career?
Speaker 1 (02:17):
It was always the NFL .
I always had my eye on the NFL.
I grew up a massive 49ers fan.
My dad was from San Francisco,my mom was from Northern Cal and
I lived in Southern Cal, so itwas tough because I was
surrounded by Rams fans.
The Rams were in LA before theywent to St Louis and then came
up.
But I absolutely lovedeverything about football,
(02:42):
particularly NFL, the NFL, and Iwas an obsessed fan and I
wanted to get into broadcasting.
I thought you know what?
So, yeah, so I started insports radio and worked my way
up and fortunately, just thingsaligned.
You guys know how it is.
It's you work hard, you getluckier right, and the harder
(03:03):
you work, you work hard, you getluckier right.
And, um, the harder you work,the luckier you get.
And I found myself on mondaynight football with the great
john madden and al michaels andI I, I think I was like in shock
for a while.
And then um went over to nbcsunday night football, still
with al michaels, but then chriscollinsworth at that point.
So what, what a what a joyouscareer I've had wow.
Speaker 4 (03:27):
Well, talking about football, I have to get right to
it okay, I'm a huge, like Imean pats fan, pats brady, the
whole, the whole thing um okay.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
So you're not at all okay so you're there, I know
your time.
Speaker 4 (03:44):
You're there.
The Super Bowl 49.
Pats beat the Seahawks.
You're standing behind BillBelichick when the interception
happens to end that game.
Speaker 5 (04:00):
Marcus Butler.
For people that don't know, theSeahawks were about to run the
ball in and they were about towin the game.
Speaker 4 (04:05):
As a Pats fan, I'm saying oh great, this is over,
you're going to run it in, it'sgoing to be over, why not?
And they should have ran it in,they should have, I mean,
anyway.
So you're behind Bill.
When that happened, I mean, Ican't imagine what that was like
.
I've seen, of course, watchingit and everything, but being
(04:28):
there, what did Bill do?
Did he just scream, or what didhe do?
Speaker 1 (04:33):
The whole scenario was so interesting because I
happened to be on their sideline.
Normally I'm on the sideline ofthe team I think is about to
win.
I did not think that at thatpoint, mind you, I just happened
to be behind that sideline andone of the things was Bill was
getting ready to call a timeout.
He expected them to run theball and then score.
(04:53):
He wanted to call a timeout andimmediately regroup, put Brady
back on the field, etc.
You know, marshawn Lynch istrying, trying second down, and
they go and they throw the pass.
And Malcolm Butler, whom no onehad ever heard of before steps
in front of that football andpicks it off, and Bill's fist
(05:16):
just went in the air.
He went from this poisedposition of I'm going to call a
timeout as soon as this score tojust this.
I mean victory formation, ifyou will.
So then my job became I got tofigure out who this Malcolm
Butler kid is, and he's got tobe in my post-game interview,
right.
So I start stalking him.
(05:37):
Every move he made on the bench, I was behind the bench
stalking him.
And so, finally, game ends, Igrab him and I'm waiting by the
camera, waiting, waiting.
Come on, al, throw it to me out.
Come on, the al, throw, youknow.
But he's putting a bow aroundthe game and everything.
Al says, okay, let's go down tomichelle.
She's with malcolm.
But right at that instant,malcolm butler takes off.
(06:01):
He's like he's waited longenough.
He's waited long enough.
He's's waited long enough.
He's like I want to gocelebrate.
Well, I had to run him down onlive television, you know, it's
like I've never seen it.
I've never looked back at it.
Someday I will, but I've heard.
It's pretty funny.
I'm chasing him down, I turnaround and then I get a couple
of questions and so, yeah, itwas one of the more fun moments
(06:24):
and I can still visualize everysecond of it.
Speaker 4 (06:28):
I just want to give Pete Carroll a big hug as a Pats
fan, Because there's no waythey don't get that touchdown if
they run it.
You felt that way, didn't you?
Speaker 1 (06:39):
Oh yeah, as a fan you're not stopping him, and
it's Lynch, you know?
Oh yeah, and you're not goingto, didn't you?
Yeah, oh yeah, as a fan.
Speaker 4 (06:43):
You're not, not stopping him, and it's, it's
Lynch, you know oh yeah, andyou're not going to stop them.
I know and and and Pete Carroll, if you're out there, thank you
, but it feels like as a Patsfan, that that's how, like
that's beat themselves a lot andoverthought it or whatever.
Anyway, what a great.
I just loved I read that youwere standing behind Bill and I
(07:07):
thought that was like what acool thing.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
It was really cool.
Speaker 5 (07:13):
Michelle, I'm sorry to interrupt you but it makes me
think, okay, that's such a funtime and you get to do the post
game interview and that's allhappy, but I consider a lot of
what you had to do to be thehardest gig in sports, because
at halftime or in game but I'mjust saying at halftime or in
game you've got to go get thecoach who does not want to talk
(07:35):
to you.
I don't know if I've ever seena coach that, oh, I can't wait
to talk to Michelle.
But, you've got your one or twoquestions.
What was that like?
I mean, you had to be prepared,had to ask the right questions,
I'm sure, but that's a hard gig.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
It is a hard gig and thank you for acknowledging that
yeah, you got it.
Damn it no we need more credit.
You know, seriously, it wasvery challenging, particularly
with certain coaches Like who.
Well you know, bill did not lovethat halftime stuff,
particularly with certaincoaches Like who?
Well, bill did not love thathalftime stuff.
(08:11):
And listen, I get it.
I don't hold a grudge againstanyone, jim Harbaugh, against
anyone.
Because you're right, they'rein the middle of this battle,
right?
You only get so many games inthe NFL season.
This isn't the NBA, it's notMajor League Baseball, it's not
(08:31):
hockey.
You get this finite number andevery win is so critically
important.
So, yeah, at halftime they'rethinking what is my plan going
into the second half and they'renot thinking, gee, I want to
talk to Michelle or any otherreporter.
So a lot of them are reallygracious about it.
Believe me, 90% of them treatedme so well and you work really
(08:55):
hard to establish thoserelationships and sometimes
you're going to ask a questionthat comes off stupid and you
have to live with that and youdon't sleep that night.
But for the most part, you knowyou really listen.
We prepared like crazy, likethere were no days off during
the football.
No days off.
You know you finish a gameSunday night, you're on a plane
(09:15):
Monday morning and you'realready prepping for next Sunday
.
I'm not exaggerating.
You're on the plane home andyou're starting your prep for
the next Sunday.
There's no celebration, there'sno calming down, there's just
you're on your way and every dayuntil the next Sunday you're
focused on that game.
Yeah, you look back a littlebit and you critique.
(09:37):
We always watch film andcritique our performances on
every level, and but then youprep and you you don't, and
that's really what it comes downto.
It's like, you know, I kepttelling myself when it got
tedious.
You know, failing to prepare ispreparing to fail, so you can't
do that.
We're not failing here.
This is Sunday freaking nightfootball.
(09:58):
This is Monday night football,you know, and it's a crew that
holds everyone to the higheststandard.
So failure was not an option.
Speaker 4 (10:07):
And it looks like that's how you treated your
whole career.
Because am I right in this?
Your on-air debut was 94 at theUS Open.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
Yeah, so wow, yeah, well, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4 (10:20):
Is that right?
Speaker 1 (10:21):
I mean as far as like you know, I don't remember what
my very first on-air assignmentwas for CBS Sports.
Honestly, I remember my veryfirst assignment when I moved
from CBS to ESPN.
I remember they put me on WorldCup skiing.
That was interesting.
I broke my arm, but that'sanother story.
But yeah, no, you really, youknow, at that time there were
(10:46):
there weren't as many womendoing it as there are now.
So there was that sort of youknow, you got to work twice as
hard, which, by the way, I wouldnever complain about and I
would never suggest anyonecomplain about it.
You know that going in it'swhat you sign up for and so it's
what you have to do.
And so it was never like poorme, I've got to work twice as
(11:08):
hard.
No, it was.
How cool is this?
I get to show my stuff, man.
I get to work really hard andshow everybody.
So I was competing witheverybody.
But yeah, so you had to workhard.
Speaker 4 (11:20):
And that was cool.
I mean, I think Agassi won thatyear year, so that had to be
pretty cool to to be.
I mean, if that was early on,you know it's, it's pretty cool
yeah, he was still married tobrooke shields oh wow, that's
amazing.
Yeah, that's how long ago thatwas.
I mean, it's it's uh.
Did you get to interview him atall, or?
Speaker 1 (11:39):
yeah, I didn't.
I've interviewed andre um andand that's like those years are
kind of a blur to me becausewhen I first got hired at CBS
Sports I was sort of like inshock.
Seriously, I had done verylittle TV, I had done mostly
sports, talk radio.
I get hired by a network as myfirst television job, not a
local network, and I thoughtthat I could do it.
(12:04):
But I went through a lot ofhell along the way, making a lot
of mistakes.
But as Winston Churchill said,when you find yourself going
through hell, just keep going.
And so that's what I did and,believe me, there were times
where I dropped some seriousmistakes, but I wanted it bad
enough to just stick with it andlearn.
Speaker 6 (12:25):
Yeah, I thought that was Rodney Adkins that said that
that's the first time I'd heardit.
Hey and Michelle, do you getany hazard pay?
Because you mentioned you brokeyour arm at a skiing event?
Do you get hazard pay includedwith some of the because you're
around a lot of dangerous sportsand contact sports?
Hell, no, nothing extra.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
The stupid thing about that broken arm was we
were in kitzbühel, austria.
It was beautiful and I wascovering world cup skiing, which
I don't know why they put me onthat.
I was brand new at espn.
I had been doing, you know,mostly college football and
college basketball my entirecareer.
But you show up at espn andthey're like, yeah, we'll throw
on skin, see what she thinks ofthat.
So I'm over there in austriaand I'm coming home from dinner
(13:11):
one night to our little innwhere we were staying and I'm
crossing a bridge and my stupidboot slipped and instead you
know, I don't, I'd never likepracticed falling like my
husband played baseball.
You learn how to slide and falland all that and get your arms
out of the way.
No, my arm just wentinstinctively straight down and
and the next thing I know it waslaying in the snow like the
(13:33):
shape of an S you know, it wasjust, literally just.
I was like, oh my God.
And uh, they, they take me inan ambulance to this hospital in
Austria and this guy's yellingat me in German and then he
starts saying stop your crying,you are not like, I'm not, I'm
really in a lot of pain here,man.
Then he took an x-ray and hesaw that I had broken both bones
(13:55):
in my wrist and he came backand said I'm sorry, you are
really hurt, but no, no, hazardpay.
Speaker 6 (14:03):
Well, on your way out , as they're wheeling you out on
the stretcher, did youdramatically slowly reach up
your finger and number one likethat, anything that happens,
mark?
Speaker 1 (14:14):
Well, there were no cameras rolling, so I figured
man would see it.
Speaker 6 (14:17):
You know Well actually they walked me.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
They walked me up to our end this is one really funny
tidbit Walked me up to our end.
Our innkeeper, who didn't speakany English, looks at me.
He had to cut the glove off ofmy hand cause I was so swollen
and he handed me this glass ofliquor and he said drink it,
drink it.
And I said no, no, no, no, no,no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,no, no.
Drink it down.
So I just went, you know, andit kind of helped.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
Well, you know you been talking about your
interviews and stuff and I don'twant to get too political, but
I'm going to.
All right, I'm going to.
I just want to know what yourinterview would be like with, uh
, the legendary coach, tim waltzon the sideline, one of our
finest coaches.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
I'm just curious what you would ask him at halftime I
would probably say do you haveany idea what the hell you're
doing?
Are you just playing a parthere, coach?
Listen, I happen to live rightnow in Minnesota, where he is
still the governor and he'sstill a fool and he's still a
(15:27):
fraud and he's still a clown,and I seriously have zero
respect for the man.
He has driven this state intothe ground.
And so there are a lot ofpeople in my neighborhood who
are moving not just my day outfrom all over Minnesota, who
have left, who are, you know,probably heading your way, and
(15:49):
you know it's just it's.
It's been really sad.
I've lived here for half of mylife now.
I grew up, like I said, inSouthern California and spent
the first half of my life inCalifornia and then came here
and I I'm so sad to see thisstate the way that it is.
So I would have a.
You know I'd I honestly I'dlove to sit across from him and
(16:09):
interview him, but it would bemore like, uh, he would not
enjoy it, trust me that was avery awkward um campaign and and
watching him out there and andwatching him with the hand
waving and the awkward and thedouble wave.
Speaker 4 (16:24):
Yeah it just uh, I can't remember who it was, but
you, you, you called someone outon X, didn't you?
Or someone or another ESPNanalyst I think um had mentioned
him and about his masculinityor something you know, mina
Kim's or whatever had saidsomething.
Speaker 3 (16:42):
Mina Kim's.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
Yeah, she said, she said on the Dan Levitard podcast
, uh, which I don't recommend,the dan levitard podcast, uh,
which I don't recommend.
She said.
She said, um, that you know,this was a good kind of he
represented a good kind ofmasculinity.
And I, I didn't you know andand I just said, what is that?
(17:05):
What are you even talking about?
Like, I guess, is toxicmasculinity was just a joke to
(17:33):
me and so, yeah, I, um, Idisagreed with her adamantly.
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I don't know anyone who could look at Tim Waltz and
say that's a picture ofmasculinity.
Speaker 5 (19:03):
I mean it's.
You know it's really sad for me.
I love Minnesota, my wife isfrom Minnesota, her family is
from there, I'm from Iowa, so Ispent a.
I I love Minnesota, my wife isfrom Minnesota, her family is
from there, I'm from Iowa, so Ispent a lot of time in Minnesota
, and I would say, probablyoutside of Metro, you know,
minneapolis, st Paul, there's,it's, it's still maybe mostly
(19:24):
red, but obviously the citiesare very blue, you know.
And then there's this thingwith you know the god, the men
and women, sports, and how isthat going to go in minnesota
here, because it it looks like aslippery slope.
They're getting in it.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
It does, and this has a lot to do with tim walls and
we've got a very slim majorityright now in the house in
minnesota, a very slimrepublican majority.
But uh, this is this issue'sthe no-brainer right it should
be a no-brainer it should be ano-brainer.
So I will say, uh, as we'rerecording this, I'm getting
(20:01):
ready to do a panel in a fewdays with riley gains, who's
coming here to rally at thecapitol, and some other folks
and, um, you know, I've, I'veI've been in touch with Riley
and I got to know each othervery early on in this fight and,
um, I think her courage and herwillingness to just be
steadfast and keep speaking outon this and she has absolutely
(20:24):
no fear has been great for thismovement.
So we're going to keep trying.
Like I said, I don't know whyyou would choose this hill to
die on, but I think that we areso far left in our politics here
in Minnesota, like you said,outside of the Twin Cities,
outside of the metro, you seeTrump flags all over the place,
(20:45):
right, but you get here wherethere's just dense population
and by dense I mean they're kindof dense, but there are a lot
of people and they think youknow that Tim Walls and Keith
Ellison, our Attorney General,and the left are really cool and
really great for standing up,for you know, they position it
(21:08):
as we're standing up for transrights and they're forgetting
that there are victims in thisand those are the girls and um,
you know, where are the womenstanding up for these girls and
I I hope they come out of thewoodwork here yeah, we've.
Speaker 5 (21:24):
We've been lucky enough to have riley on here and
, yes, she's done what she'sdone over the years is I mean,
everyone has to appreciate whatshe's done, the fight that she's
fought.
It's been incredible.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
And we can't believe she had to fight for that.
Speaker 4 (21:38):
Yeah, that was even a fight it still, it still feels
like we're making this up.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
I know.
Speaker 4 (21:44):
What are we?
What are we arguing about?
Men and women's sports?
Is that a thing?
That's a thing.
We always talk about it.
It's crazy.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
It feels like the world has tipped off its axis.
We're just like what'shappening here.
Did we enter some other timewarp or weird form of gravity
around the earth?
Yeah, it's ridiculous, thiswhole phrase.
Trans women are real women is,so then what part is trans then?
(22:16):
Why do you have to say trans?
Well, because you're not a realwoman.
And it's look, you can dowhatever you want, you can live
however you want, but once youstart to impact fairness in
sports, or you're to impactfairness in sports or you're.
Look, we know there are peoplewho have abused this, people in
(22:39):
prison who have decided totransition while in prison so
they can be transferred to thewomen's prisons.
I mean, this stuff is so absurd.
Speaker 4 (22:43):
At least, at least you can, at least that makes
sense, At least okay, At leastthat's a last resort.
I mean you gotta I need to getout of here.
You know what I mean?
You gotta have something to do,that's a lot of that's a last
resort.
Speaker 6 (22:49):
I mean you gotta I need to get out of here.
You gotta have something to dothat's a lot of time to kill.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
No that's a very good point um but you know it, yeah,
this is, this is absurd.
And you look at these, thesebiological boys who are
competing, and you go really,leah thomas, the.
The photographs will live ininfamy and they will be in our
history books and 50 years fromnow or 100 years from now,
hopefully, people will be sayingwhat in the hell were they
(23:19):
thinking?
Speaker 4 (23:20):
Yeah, I still don't know where those people are,
though, not to end this topic,but who supports it?
I mean, I know they're outthere.
I've never met someone who says, yes, men and women's sports.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
You know it's hard to meet somebody down here that
supports it.
Speaker 4 (23:34):
It's really hard to meet somebody.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
No, there was a girl that just I saw today, a
15-year-old basketball playerthat refused to play.
Her name is Frances Stalt orsomething like that.
I can't remember her last name.
Speaker 5 (23:48):
And really that's what they should be doing.
They should just be refusing.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
She refused to play, but now she's getting backlash
for refusing to play.
I mean, you would think theywere just like, okay, she didn't
want to play, so we'll continueon, but now she's getting
bullied.
Yeah, I think they've accusedher of bullying, yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
Exactly.
It's like who's bullying whohere?
Um, you know, yeah, it's I.
I have said on x and every I'veshouted from the rooftops don't
play, don't compete exactly andyou know we had that nevada uh
women's volleyball team that didthat.
That said we're not gonna, we'regonna boycott or we're gonna,
(24:22):
you know, throw in the towel onsome of these games.
We'll forfeit because we don'twant to play against this San
Jose State team that has a male,you know, a trans gal playing
on the team.
We don't want to do it and theytook a lot of guff even from
their own university.
But I am so happy to see thesedevelopments and we're seeing it
(24:44):
.
We're seeing some signs ofcourage and I think courage
begets courage.
So I hope that this is kind ofa movement among young girls
that starts to grow.
You know, that's, that's whatwe're hoping for.
I hope so too.
Speaker 5 (24:59):
You mentioned Riley as being fearless, but I would
argue that you're prettyfearless as well.
I've seen you go into thelion's den.
I've seen you go on, bill Maher.
I've seen you go into thelion's den.
I've seen you go on, bill Maher, speak your Mind.
I've seen you co-host the View.
This is Neil's favorite showthe View.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
Neil, come on, yeah, right.
Speaker 5 (25:24):
But you have to tell me what that experience was like
, because I think you were onthere a couple days and you
talked about you were justgiving objectionable views on
Colin Kaepernick or COVID or thevaccines which at that time, oh
, don't you dare do that.
Can you share what thatexperience was like and did you
expect the kind of backlash yougot following that?
Speaker 1 (25:44):
I was prepared for it and the interesting thing about
it is some people think thatNBC fired me because of that,
and that's not at all.
What happened?
It, it, it, it.
What happened was that this wasgoing to be my final season on
on Sunday night football,because I wanted to go speak my
mind more.
So I asked permission to go onthe view when I had a week off
(26:07):
at the end of the season, andthey said, okay, yeah, just you
know, be careful.
I guess I wasn't careful enoughand I said some things, but I
got to tell you, sitting on thatset and even in the early
morning, you go into the NewYork studio and you have this
meeting and you're all sittingthere, all you know, whoopie and
everyone and you're talkingabout what the topics are going
(26:29):
to be, and it is like it's notexciting, it's not energetic,
it's not happy it's not whoopingjoy and sunny, I mean yeah
everyone makes a point of that.
It's so ironic, isn't it?
Whoopie, joy and sunny and it'slike none of those things, and
so it.
(26:50):
You know, I honestly um, andthey were considering me for the
conservative chair, and Iremember I one of my last times
there, the head of talent camedown and said well, what do you
think?
And what I wanted to say to himis you don't have enough money
to get me to do this showbecause it was really, it was
(27:11):
honestly depressing, it was wellthey're, they're very sad
people yeah they're
Speaker 6 (27:17):
very grumpy, bitter angry.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
Yeah, they're very grumpy and just you know, there
was no joy.
There was no joy, I'm sorry,there was.
No, there was no fun in it anduh, and I tried, and I put on a
brave face and I smiled thewhole way through and I thought
I'm just going to be a happywarrior.
And if it had been honestly,you know, like informed debate,
(27:43):
informed discussion, that wasrespectful, I could have lived
with it.
But it wasn't.
And in fact there was one timein a commercial break and I'm
sorry, joy Behar, I am going tocall you out on this.
Speaker 4 (27:57):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (27:58):
I had mentioned that my brother was not getting
vaccinated, that he didn't wantto get vaccinated, and she told
me to tell my brother he's a.
You know, she called him a name.
Speaker 5 (28:08):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
And I said, you know, yeah, like a selfish SOB.
And I said, well, yeah, I'm notgoing to tell him that, but you
know I respect your feelingseven though, whatever.
So, yeah, there was some.
I mean, and for someone like mewho prepares super hard for
stuff and does the research, issuper hard for stuff and does
(28:31):
the research, I was kind ofamazed at some of the stuff that
they would just say without anybacking at all.
Now, it's an opinion show,they're allowed to do that, but
it was frustrating.
Speaker 4 (28:42):
It's funny to me how, when you're on the left, you
can have a very strong opinionabout whatever you want and say
whatever you want, and whenyou're conservative, it's like
be careful what you say why isthat yeah?
Speaker 2 (28:56):
I really don't know.
Speaker 4 (28:57):
It's like we.
We ask it every time on theshow.
That's what they did to oursong.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
I mean as soon as our song came out, we the four of
us were labeled racistimmediately by whoopi goldberg
and everybody on the view I mean, it feels like, you know, in
america, it feels obvious thatwe should be able to have an
opinion either way.
Speaker 4 (29:15):
You know why is it bad if you have a different
opinion from someone on the left?
They're very grumpy people.
I tell you what they're verygrumpy and you can't really have
a conversation with them.
They get very sensitive.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
Yeah, I bet you saw your future if you took that job
.
What that would be like I didit would have been a constant
bombardment on you.
Speaker 1 (29:38):
And you look at someone like Meghan McCain who
quit because she just couldn'ttake it, and I sat there and
this was post-Meghan whilethey're looking to fill that
chair and I thought I get it.
I understand.
You know, even when they hadguests on, that would come out
(29:58):
and we do.
You know the chit chat with theguests.
You could feel the guests justglaring at you I mean, it was
like you know, hi, nice to meetyou.
And then you know it was.
It was really quite amazing.
And the audience, uh is thefifth member of the view.
Uh, so you know, like you'vegot all these opposing opinions
(30:20):
and the entire audience is intheir palm and you're just
trying to make a point and uh,it was.
Speaker 4 (30:27):
Yeah, it was challenging, it was something
yeah, and, and and it feels likeall of media is part of the
view.
So you're fighting everything,everything you know.
So it's.
But, like kurt said, thank youfor speaking up and it's so I'm
curious.
Speaker 5 (30:42):
so with the view, because I've heard, like
elizabeth hasselbeck, who was onthere for a while, say that
she's actually friends withWhoopi, even though they have
completely differing thoughts,especially on politics and stuff
.
When you had those couple ofdays with them, did you like you
said I just want to make sureI'm hearing right you just
didn't have any camaraderie withthose hosts at all.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
I would say that Whoopi was probably the most
open-minded.
Even though I disagreed withher vehemently about a number of
things, and still do, I wouldsay that she was probably the
most authentic.
Speaker 4 (31:22):
How did Ted Danson do it?
I don't know.
I want to have Ted.
Speaker 6 (31:24):
Danson on and I want to ask and I love.
Speaker 1 (31:27):
Ted Danson.
Speaker 4 (31:27):
I'm like bro, that's actually a great idea.
There's a lot of questions.
I have so many questions, buthow did you do it, ted wake up
in the morning and there'sWhoopi yikes, sorry, that's just
been eating at me for like 20years now you've been awesome
sorry, the truth is that's wheremy brain goes.
(31:48):
Oh my goodness, what a view.
Speaker 1 (31:51):
But it was really yeah, I would have.
That's why you guys aresongwriters you know how to put
those words in the right places.
Yeah, it was just, I would saythat Sonny and Joy were the most
hostile.
Speaker 4 (32:06):
I can't do it.
Their names?
They're not I know isn't it.
Speaker 3 (32:11):
I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (32:12):
It's something, it's truly something, and you know,
and.
I'll give Sunny a little bit ofcredit.
There were times in thecommercial I felt like she was
asked behind the scenes, maybeto try to be nice to me in the
commercial breaks.
So she would just turn to meand say, so are you having fun?
But it never felt, you know, itnever felt authentic and I'm
(32:34):
yeah, I just couldn't do that.
I couldn't do it.
And let me tell you this reallyquick Chelsea Clinton was a
guest on the show one time andso each of us got to ask a
question and they sort of helpedshape my question for me, which
was fine.
My question was going to beabout the election and how, you
know, the Democrats have allthese issues unemployment,
(32:57):
inflation, what are you mostconcerned with?
So, you know, as a Democrat,and her answer, and I wanted to
go put my head in a stove.
Her answer was my biggestconcern is that everybody has
(33:17):
the right to vote that everybodyhas access to that and I wanted
to scream and I had to fight myinstinct to say what makes you
think that people don't haveaccess to voting in America.
But I knew she would point atGeorgia, andia and she would
just and it just there's notenough time in a show like that
to really go back and forth.
But damn did I want to and Ireally regretted that I didn't
(33:38):
follow chelsea clinton wastalking about dead people too
well michelle there may be a uh.
Speaker 6 (33:47):
I don't know if you've heard about this, but you
know because you were raised inCalifornia, right, you were
there for a pretty good while.
There's a podcast that's newlylaunching that is supposed to be
about truth and where you canreally get some great points in
and a great discussion.
Gavin Newsom's new podcast, andso I was wondering if anybody's
(34:11):
contacted you yet or if theyreached out to you.
Speaker 1 (34:15):
Not yet.
I'm so disappointed.
Speaker 6 (34:17):
Yeah, because you're from there and you're a huge
celebrity.
I mean, I don't understand.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
You know, I heard him say he wants to mix it up with
the MAGA architects.
The architects of MAGA, and I'mthinking to myself you are so
transparent, you want to run forpresident.
So bad, and you want todistract everyone away from the
disaster that you've made inCalifornia the fires, the
(34:42):
homelessness, the immigrationpolicy, the sanctuary cities,
the crime, the crap on thestreets of San Francisco.
Sanctuary cities, the crime,the crap on the streets of San
Francisco.
You, just now, you think if youhave a shiny new podcast, we're
all going to forget thatbecause you decide to mix it up
with the architects of MAGA.
Speaker 7 (35:00):
I can't wait to see who he has on, but I hope that
they, I hope that they allreally hold his.
Speaker 1 (35:06):
This is bad timing to say his feet to the fire.
This is bad timing to say hisfeet to the fire, but I really
do hope that they, they hold himto.
You know, they, they, theyspeak truth to power.
Speaker 4 (35:17):
A lot, a lot of people have moved here from
California.
I got some friends that justopened a business here a couple
of years ago moved here duringCOVID or shortly after COVID
somewhere in that timeframe.
But they call them gruesomeNewsome yeah you know, and and
by no means are, are my friendsnecessarily conservative, but
(35:39):
they're probably moderate, likenormal people with common sense
normal and and now they have abusiness here and it's like I
don't know what.
If you're from california, whatgood has he done?
Honestly, like I don't.
I guess they'll argue with meon that, but oh, I don't get it.
Speaker 1 (35:57):
You get no argument from me, none.
I have a niece and two nephewsout there who probably can't
afford to live there, and sotheir solution is well, let's
build little single family orsingle person dwellings in other
people's backyards.
That's one.
(36:18):
The other is, with all of thisdestruction in the Palisades,
pacific Palisades, there alongthe coast, they want to put in
instead of just letting peoplerebuild homes.
All it's got to includeaffordable housing and we've got
to include a bunch of apartmentbuildings.
And you know it's.
I don't, I listen.
(36:38):
I have a dear friend I'm notgoing to name him right now
because he's 10 times morefamous than I am, which isn't
really saying a lot, but he'slike 20 times more, anyway, big
time and he's in LA and he'salways telling me to come back.
And I said there's no way I'mcoming back.
And he said things are startingto change.
You know Gavin's going to getthat that, uh, and Karen Bass,
(37:00):
she'll get ousted.
And I, I, I, just I, I'm notbuying it yet and until I
actually see that, there's noway I go back.
I go there all the time to seemy mom.
She passed away a year or soago and so I don't really get
out there anymore and I you knowit's so sad to me.
What a beautiful, beautifulstate.
(37:21):
My dad was so proud of theGolden State and he used to call
San Francisco the jewel of theWestern Hemisphere and you know
we felt so fortunate to beraised there and it's just
really sad.
Speaker 2 (37:37):
It is sad it is to be raised there and it's just uh,
it's just really sad, it is.
No, it's just such a beautifulplace and to have those type of
characters that have overtakensuch a beautiful place is not
fair and it pisses me off.
Speaker 5 (37:48):
It's really unbelievable because, like
you're saying, san francisco,you know we were lucky enough to
be there a long time ago and itis one of the most beautiful
places on the planet, or it was,it was it still is minus the
people.
Well, no, that's you godowntown and it's not good.
Speaker 1 (38:05):
Um, yeah, there are sections now you're right that
are just impassable so what, uh?
Speaker 5 (38:11):
so what brought you to minnesota then?
Was it work well?
Speaker 1 (38:16):
it was work.
It I was.
I was my first full-time sportscasting job was in Charlotte,
north Carolina, and I didn'thave a real good experience
there with the whole the, thework environment, the person I
was working with, et cetera.
And so I really wanted to leaveand I want and in this business
you just keep moving to thenext biggest market, hoping to
get like you know.
(38:36):
Okay, I was in Charlotte, Iwant to move up to a bigger
market where you're, you knowyou have a bigger opportunity.
And so I got a call from thestation in Minnesota, a
full-time all-sports station,and they did a great job
recruiting me and they offeredme, you know, the position on
the local Vikings broadcast andI thought this is my first step
(38:58):
into the NFL, which was the goal.
So I took it and then I met myhusband and so here, we stay,
but he is even tired of it now,and he was raised here.
Speaker 2 (39:13):
We have room in Nashville.
Speaker 6 (39:16):
We have room in.
Speaker 2 (39:16):
Nashville.
Speaker 4 (39:17):
Lots of people are moving here, michelle.
Speaker 2 (39:19):
Minnesota needs her though.
Speaker 4 (39:21):
Minnesota.
I mean listening to you talkand how, like you said, very
well spoken.
I think you have a genuine carefor the people there.
It's like they need you upthere.
I mean Minnesota.
If you're in Minnesota, youneed something to look forward
to.
Okay, so totally this is a goodthing.
Speaker 5 (39:39):
We're going to let you do this, michelle.
We're going to let you breaknews on the Try that in a Small
Town podcast.
Come on, it has to happen.
Speaker 1 (39:46):
You can either confirm nor deny.
Speaker 5 (39:48):
Uh-oh, are you going to make a run for a Senate seat?
Speaker 1 (39:54):
I will neither confirm nor deny.
Speaker 3 (39:56):
Gosh, dang it.
Speaker 4 (39:57):
I'm sorry, that's a politician she's gonna do it
because they need her there, Imean, I'm gonna confirm it
tonight on the try that podcastwait a minute.
Speaker 1 (40:10):
I mean, you know, look there are.
There are some really goodpotential candidates that we
have here, and so I'm prayingthat someone good will step up,
because the governorship iscoming up.
We've got to get rid of TimWalls and, yes, we have an open
Senate seat coming up.
Speaker 3 (40:29):
I'm sorry, coach, how do you get this?
Speaker 1 (40:32):
on Coach so many names for him, so many names.
Speaker 4 (40:36):
Do you know anybody who actually knows him or
actually can say anything?
He seems so.
I think Bugs Bunny does.
It's so weird when he walkedout in one of those campaign
events.
Speaker 5 (40:50):
He just looks so disingenuous he doesn't look
real to me.
He shakes his wife's hand.
Speaker 4 (40:55):
It's like this is weird.
Speaker 1 (40:57):
Don't you think that at a certain point into the
campaign that Kamala sort ofwent?
What have I done?
Speaker 5 (41:05):
Okay, michelle, you got to answer this for me
because we had this questionhere, a lot Like when that was
happening and she was pickingher vice president.
I think everybody thoughtShapiro Right, like I would get
that, and I'd be like actuallyhe's pretty good.
I would have been worried aboutthat Me too.
Speaker 1 (41:24):
I would have been worried too.
Speaker 5 (41:26):
And then the waltz thing came and everybody's like
what?
Speaker 3 (41:30):
Like I actually don't .
It's almost like self-sabotage.
Speaker 5 (41:33):
What do you think that strategy was?
Speaker 1 (41:35):
I think he was the last one stand.
I don't think people wanted to.
I think shapiro knew okay, andthat it was.
It was going to be a failure.
That she was, that she was adisaster.
And he didn't want to hitch hiswagon and and he thought I've
got a political future and Idon't want to destroy it.
Tim wallace has clearlydestroyed his political future.
I hope I I really like tobelieve Minnesota is going to do
(42:00):
better.
Listen, the local media here inMinnesota didn't do one iota of
vetting this guy.
And then you get the nationalmedia scrutiny and suddenly all
these things are coming out andyou know it was a whole
different story out and you knowit was a whole different story.
(42:23):
So I I hope that minnesotanshave opened up their eyes enough
to say you know a doorknobwould be better in the
government.
Speaker 4 (42:26):
You're, you've got, you've got to come on this
podcast all the time absolutelyit's like you're.
It's one of my favorites.
Yeah, you're a breath of freshair hey, are you a country music
fan?
Speaker 2 (42:37):
I, I am really.
Speaker 5 (42:39):
So who do you like?
Speaker 1 (42:42):
I well, I love jason aldean god there you go, you
passed thank you, thank youyou know what?
I'll be honest with you, thisis sort of um.
In the last five years I'vestarted started to absorb more
country music and I I do thinkthere's, there's, there's.
It's just become more um of mystyle and there there's a lot of
(43:06):
it that I just really am intoand my son is really into it and
that kind of he's a.
He's got a very eclectic musictaste but, um, he's introduced
me to a lot and I wish I couldremember all the names because
there's some really good stuffthat he plays on his playlist.
But yeah, I I want to get to.
You know, my husband's neverbeen to Nashville, I think.
(43:27):
Actually he came down as abaseball player and played
against Vanderbilt but probablygot their asses kicked, but
anyway, Vanderbilt's got a goodteam.
Vanderbilt's got a good team,but I got to get down there and
I got to listen to some music.
Speaker 5 (43:40):
Yeah, it's a great place, to be for sure.
And yes, vandy is always good,always has a great baseball team
.
Hey, you know, before we go, Iwant to ask you this because,
yeah, tony and I talk about thisa lot.
We take for granted what we'vebeen able to do and be on stage.
And it's funny like sometimeswe'll have guests out and
(44:01):
they're enamored with beingbackstage or side stage for a
concert.
But as sports fans, I'm lookingat you and I'm thinking
Michelle gets to be on thesideline.
Oh my gosh, she's courtside.
Oh my gosh, she's us.
Did you ever get to look atthat and just say, oh, I'm so
blessed, or was it always?
Speaker 1 (44:19):
you were just so in the middle of work, work, work
that you weren't able toappreciate it I think it was the
latter, but I'll tell you thismy I knew when my last game was
going to be.
I stayed a couple seasonslonger than I had planned to.
I wanted to get out and starttalking, which you can't really
do when you're on the number oneshow in prime time.
You can't talk the way I'vebeen talking here with you guys.
(44:43):
And I and I again nevercomplained, that's what I signed
up for.
I knew that.
But, um, after COVID andeverything, I just I stuck with
the group and and they're like,just get us through that
Superbowl in LA.
And so I said, okay.
So I knew that Superbowl in LAand it ended up being the Rams
and the Bengals.
I knew that was going to be mylast game.
(45:03):
And after it ended, I was aboutto just walk off the field, like
I always do, like I have thisroutine.
I'd finish, I'd interview da,da, da, and then I'd go back to
the trucks and I stopped myself.
I went wait a minute, wait aminute, wait a minute.
Don't forget, this is the lasttime you'll ever do this.
This is it.
So turn around.
(45:25):
And I physically made myselfturn around.
I was looking around thatstadium and that LA stadium is
stunning.
And you know, the confetti wasstill coming down and the Rams
were still out there on thefield celebrating and all the
rest.
And I was looking and I startedto cry and I went oh God, you
don't want to do this, this isnot what you want to do, you
(45:47):
know.
So I'm trying to keep ittogether.
And Andrew Whitworth, who was,you know, one of the offensive
linemen for the Rams saw thisand he came running over and he
gave me a hug and I'll neverforget that Um it.
That was a moment where I lookedaround and I said you have
really been lucky and privilegedand blessed to do this for as
long as you've done it on thelevel that you've done it and
(46:10):
taken this moment, and so I havea very vivid memory of that.
That last moment on the on thefield field, I have been
incredibly lucky and I thinkthat every day I'm away from it,
I allow myself to reflect alittle bit more.
Right now I'm so focused onsort of fighting the good fight
and trying to speak for peoplewho don't want to take that risk
(46:33):
, and I'm willing to take thatrisk and I don't care that I
don't reflect a ton, but everynow and then, especially when I
get asked a question like this,I do know I was hella lucky.
Speaker 4 (46:48):
There's a cool parallel as I listen to you
speak about how well preparedyou are and how your whole
career you've prepared forwhat's next, you know, the
following week or the followinggame.
I think when people ask us thesame thing, like about playing
shows and touring and makingalbums, it just kind of hit me
when you said that, like youspend so much time preparing
(47:11):
that you've you forget toreflect, like because you just
it's like a hamster wheel andthe work's never done, so it
just keeps going and that's it.
It's a really interestingparallel that we that we have
with athletes too.
I think that's why, you know, alot of athletes want to play
music and a lot of musicianswant to be athletes, because
it's very similar in the sensethat you you never really stop
(47:33):
repairing and then one day itmakes you.
You stop, it stops, and younever prepared for that, you
know right, I still thinkbrady's coming back I'm gonna
call that.
Speaker 3 (47:45):
You need to stop thinking that he's still hung up
on will levis.
Speaker 2 (47:50):
I mean, he's got he's got his will levis cup here and
he's still we're on the huntfor a qb here in tennessee here
I'm gonna swap this cup for a qb, but okay, well, maybe that cup
will get you something we don'tknow what are the rumors.
Speaker 1 (48:05):
What are the rumors that you're hearing?
Speaker 5 (48:07):
um no one well here obviously you know they've got
the number one pick.
My thing is that if they blowit, I'm gonna be very, very
upset, like I know that thoseguys aren't generational
quarterbacks, but you don't getthe number one pick often, or
you hope you don't, right?
So if they don't take the camor or maybe the you know I got
(48:29):
cam ward.
Speaker 2 (48:30):
I love cam ward.
Speaker 5 (48:32):
So I don't know.
I'll be disappointed if theydon't, because we can't go into
the season with Will, we'll getKirk Cousins and you'll like it.
I like Kirk.
Speaker 4 (48:41):
I like Kirk.
Speaker 1 (48:43):
I will tell you you would love Kirk.
Speaker 2 (48:45):
I've gotten to know, kirk over the years.
Speaker 1 (48:48):
He's a great guy and he's a better quarterback than
people think.
He's been shuffled through somany different systems.
It's ridiculous.
I agree, but he's a very goodplayer and a lot of offensive
coordinators really respect hisgame.
It's going to be interesting.
I will warn you this you knowthat number one pick can be
deceiving, like Jamarcus Russellwas taken with the number one
(49:12):
pick by the then Oakland Raidersand it was a terrible pick.
It didn't work out so great forthe Raiders.
But you know it's reallyinteresting the scouting and all
the stuff that they do to findthe right person.
That's all evolved and, I'msure, gotten much more detailed.
But it's kind of a blessing anda curse to have that number one
(49:34):
pick because, like you said, ifyou blow it, your fans may
never forgive you and you maynever forgive yourself hey, I
like taking qb's deeper in thedraft I mean of course you do.
Speaker 4 (49:44):
You're a patch fan, but look at brock purdy though.
Yeah, I know, you know I mean alot of times those, those
hidden gems, are in there, Ithink.
Speaker 1 (49:51):
I think montana was a third round pick, I know, I
mean I think michelle toffolawould be a good general manager
for the tennessee titans well,come on down hey, real quick,
what are the vikings?
Speaker 5 (50:01):
gonna do?
What are the vikings gonna do?
Is it mccarthy?
Speaker 1 (50:05):
I have no idea.
I have no idea.
I don't know how he'sprogressing.
I don't have a clue yet and andthat's part of the thing, like
I, I don't pay as closeattention to all of it as I used
to.
Like, like I would have had ananswer for you, but I really
don't.
And it's where you know.
It's still a little bit early,so we'll see, but my gosh,
april's creeping up, isn't it?
Speaker 5 (50:26):
It sure is, michelle.
We're thankful for you.
Listen, we know you didn't haveto come on here.
We appreciate you, weappreciate your voice.
Speaker 6 (50:33):
This was so fun.
Speaker 4 (50:39):
Please come back.
We should be like a regular onhere.
Speaker 1 (50:40):
It's so amazing.
You let me know.
Speaker 5 (50:43):
When you declare your Senate run, we'll have you back
on.
Oh sorry, I know it's happening.
Speaker 4 (50:49):
I can tell it's happening.
Speaker 3 (50:51):
I'm going to call it right here.
Speaker 1 (50:54):
You do what you want Seriously, Michelle, we
appreciate you.
Thank you so much for beinghere.
Speaker 5 (50:56):
Thank you want.
Speaker 1 (50:57):
You, do you.
Speaker 5 (50:57):
Seriously, Michelle, we appreciate you.
Thank you so much for beinghere.
Speaker 1 (51:00):
Thank you so much.
Thank you, guys.
Good to see you Thank you Allright guys.
Speaker 5 (51:04):
That was pretty awesome.
Michelle Tafoya to me she's gotlike a Hall of Fame career dude
Talking about Olympics.
You're talking about NFL SuperBowls.
I didn't even know.
The US Open thing, marchMadness, she's done it all.
Speaker 2 (51:18):
No, she's a pro Live TV.
Speaker 6 (51:20):
Superstar.
Speaker 2 (51:21):
To be that smooth, so smart I was thinking of that
too.
Speaker 5 (51:23):
Live TV I was going to ask that because it's like
that ain't easy, right, heck?
No, tony and I are talkingabout sometimes we'll do award
shows or late night shows.
And doing something live isobviously a lot different than
when you get the chance to say,ah, screw it up, let me do
another.
Take she's on live tv for aliving.
A hundred million people doingwatching the super bowl, you
(51:46):
better be on, oh she's a pro.
Speaker 4 (51:48):
She was hopefully she comes back and one of my
favorite we've guests we've had.
I mean, she was so smart andquick and you know, really,
really fun.
Speaker 2 (51:58):
The one thing I wanted to ask her.
I wanted to know when she gotlike into football, into sports,
what age I wish.
I would have asked her that.
Speaker 5 (52:06):
She alluded to it really briefly.
I wish we would have expandedon it.
I think she grew up a 49ers fanbecause she didn't.
She say she was from California.
So I think during the JoeMontana years, years, steve
young, but yeah, we should havegotten into that a little bit
more.
But I think football was likeher thing because that's what I
was curious like she did.
Speaker 2 (52:26):
She did it all I think politics is gonna be her
thing now, though, dude, shedidn't answer straight up.
Hey, you know minnesotaminnesota needs her.
Speaker 4 (52:34):
minnesota is a great state.
We we have played up inMinnesota and all over the place
so many times Great people.
What's going on up there is ashame really, so hopefully she
can get in there.
Speaker 6 (52:49):
I mean she's so smart .
Oh yeah, she's a tough lady.
I mean, go from the NFL topolitics, she's ready.
Speaker 2 (52:57):
She's ready, she'd be ready, or, general manager,
tennessee Titan Could be, couldbe.
Speaker 4 (53:02):
That's what we need.
We got a new stadium, but noteam.
It's going to be rough.
Speaker 5 (53:07):
We just need a quarterback, guys, we just need
a quarterback.
Speaker 2 (53:10):
Cam Ward.
Cam Ward C-Dub All right.
Speaker 4 (53:13):
C-Dub.
You know I agree with her,though I think I don't know
about.
I like going quarterbacksdeeper in the draft.
Speaker 5 (53:21):
Well, I mean, it's just not here we go, it is.
Speaker 3 (53:25):
But the.
Thing is.
Speaker 5 (53:26):
It's like, okay, you can cite Brady and Brock Purdy,
but that's about it, you know,and that's over 20 years.
And yeah, the number one pickis probably a coin flip.
It really is and it's a lot ofinvestment.
But if you don't got a QB man,you got to get one, you got to
(53:46):
try.
Speaker 4 (53:47):
Do you think they need to build though?
Okay, so you start buildingother pieces.
They'll then get a veteran tocome in for a year or two.
Speaker 5 (53:54):
Maybe it is.
Speaker 2 (54:02):
If that's the thing, do you bring like we talked
about this, do you bring aaronrogers and you bring kirk
cousins in, but they're in a badspot though.
I mean they get, they got.
They have to think about their,their, their dancing between
quarterback offensive line.
It's like they they've got toget the offensive line that's
going to be cohesive with theright quarterback.
I mean it's such a hard gig,hard gig.
I wouldn't want that gig.
Yeah, it is At all, but that'sthe dilemma that they're in
(54:23):
right now.
Speaker 5 (54:25):
Well, listen, we appreciate you guys.
You know we have a lot ofguests right and it's like
sometimes we're right down themiddle.
It's our bread and butter ismusic.
We love having musical peopleon talking with them, and
sometimes we venture out.
We love having musical peopleon talking with them, and
sometimes we venture out.
It's sports, or sometimes it'spolitical, like with Michelle.
Sometimes it's a little of both.
You never know what you'regoing to get.
You never know what you'regoing to get.
(54:45):
That's true, and I think that'sthe fun of it.
Listen.
So make sure this is importantto us.
If you're watching on YouTube,like subscribe, comment.
That means a lot to us.
Follow us like subscribecomment.
That means a lot to us.
Follow us on the socials.
Speaker 6 (55:00):
Kayla will always tell you to download that's a
good thing for us, definitelyyeah download, download,
download.
Speaker 5 (55:06):
Seriously, we appreciate you guys sticking
with us every week.
It's been, uh, an awesome ride.
By the way, ed leave us a good,another good comment.
Speaker 6 (55:14):
He's always first with the comment and you notice
with ed.
Speaker 5 (55:18):
he'll give us like a play-by-play, he'll give you a
comment and then, like 20minutes later, he's like with
another part of the podcast.
Speaker 6 (55:25):
I read some good ones today, did you?
Yeah, he's very affirmative ofeverybody.
He compliments, encourages.
You know he's really good.
And he was talking about yournickname.
The new nickname currently it'sCobb for Kurt, of which I'm not
100% sure I'm on board yet.
Not that that matters If it'sCobb.
(55:46):
I'll go with it.
He mentioned another one.
He had one more I thought waspretty good.
I can't remember it right now,but we're going to keep working
on that.
Speaker 2 (55:53):
Ed, you just keep sending them in.
He's from Iowa, keep sendingthem in.
He's from Iowa, I mean right inthe middle of America, middle
the heartland, you're right inthe middle.
Speaker 5 (56:01):
It is what it is.
Speaker 2 (56:01):
We can come up with something that has to do with,
right in the middle, you.
You are the heartland of thispodcast.
Speaker 5 (56:09):
Oh yeah, thanks, Neil , I appreciate it and happy
birthday, by the way.
Ah, thank you, we are coming toyou from the Patriot Mobile
Studios.
This is a Try, that in a SmallTown podcast.
Speaker 3 (56:23):
We'll see you guys next week.
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