Under the Waves

Under the Waves

Explore the mysteries of the Great Lakes with "Under the Waves," hosted by sibling duo Michelle and Andrew. Dive into true stories of shipwrecks, maritime lore, and historical intrigue, all with a touch of humor. Each episode uncovers the secrets beneath the surface and offers a fresh perspective on submerged legends. Whether you're a history buff, maritime enthusiast, or simply curious, join your new favorite sibling storytellers for a captivating journey through Great Lakes shipwrecks and legends. Set sail on a journey through the past, right from the comfort of your own home. Anchors away!

Episodes

March 13, 2026 44 mins

Andrew and Michelle cover the recently released, newly found, fresh off the press SS Lac La Belle. Learn all about this exciting steamship found almost 150 years to the day after she sank by Paul Ehorn and Bruce Bittner. Learn all about the newest shipwreck on the block!

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Happy 80th Episode! To celebrate we're bringing out all of the bad pronunciations and making both you and Michelle suffer through talking about a ship that changed names more than the Great Lakes change weather. We're discussing La Grande Hermine. So buckle up, buttercup, it's gonna be a bumpy ride!

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February 27, 2026 55 mins

It's the end of Black History Month and we barely are making it in talking about the Fairport Harbor Lighthouse aka the Freedom Light along with the crazy wild tale of the Crosswhite family and Marshall, Michigan. Step into history and the bravery of those on the Underground Railroad!

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February 20, 2026 78 mins

Michelle and Andrew cover a doozy of an episode talking about the T.T. Morford. This neat little tugboat spent her nine lives in and around Chicago but not without her fair share of tragedies. The Morford got to be the hero in many stories as well. Consider yourself warned and welcome aboard!

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February 13, 2026 61 mins

Join Andrew and Michelle as they discuss the only five-masted schooner (barquentine? but who's keeping track) to ever grace the Great Lakes - the David Dows. This behemoth of a ship made quite a name for herself during her day, setting load and speed records, making other ships look like mere bath toys. Tune in to learn what made the Dows so special, what earned her so many unfortunate titles, and what ultimately was her downfall.

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February 6, 2026 47 mins

It's all things ice over here (the non-toxic kind, except a few of the ships we cover might think otherwise) and Andrew and Michelle invite you along for the ride. Join them as they talk about an episode eerily similar to last week's story. See if you can spot the differences before Michelle makes them obvious in her retelling of the tale of the SS John V. Moran. Be sure to pack your ice picks and lots of extra salt. Welcome aboard...

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January 23, 2026 66 mins

What does hubris, slush, and the first millionaire in Detroit have in common? Why, the SS Eber Ward, of course! Still unsure of of the connection? Tune in to today's episode where Andrew and Michelle cover the life of not only the Eber Ward the ship, but also the man she was named after, and his uncle, and perhaps a few other characters along the way. Anchors away!

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January 16, 2026 52 mins

Join hosts Michelle and Andrew as they talk about a series of unfortunate events that happened on November 17, 1879. What started as an unassuming night quickly turned into chaos that took the lives of 6 people and sank at least three ships - tug A.O. Thayer, tug Philip Becker, and the dredge Gordon, as well as quite possibly a few scows. Tune in to learn more about this Lake Ontario tragedy. Anchors away!

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January 9, 2026 52 mins

First actual recorded episode in 2026 and hosts Andrew + Michelle are a tad rusty. Bear with them as they cover the SS M.M. Drake along with a few ships she encountered along the way such as the Michigan, the Dot, the Smith Moore, the Pilot, and the Hallaran. Whether or not you believe the Drake was good or bad luck, the hero or the villain, we'll let you decide. Welcome aboard!

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January 2, 2026 35 mins

Happy New Year! Welcome to the first episode of 2026 where your hosts, Andrew and Michelle cover the hot topic case of the Oscar T. Flint. What makes this vessel so lit and it's not just because Michelle can't handle the heat of narrating today, that's for sure. Other than that and the seemingly random mention of goby fish, tune in for a crazy episode. Here's to 2026 and all of the new adventures and shipwrecks it'll bring us! Welc...

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December 26, 2025 103 mins

It's the last episode of 2025 and we're bringing you a boatload of laughs. Join Andrew and Michelle as they traverse the Great Lakes in search of the best 1 star reviews of harbors, marinas, boat launches, and the occasional restaurant. Some reviews are of higher ratings and some just plain don't make sense. Tune in for the final episode as we prepare to close out the 2025 season. Welcome aboard!

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December 19, 2025 52 mins

Today, Michelle and Andrew and bringing you a very special two-for-one deal with the sinking of two car ferries - the James W Curran and the John A McPhail. Learn all about the early days of car ferries on the northern Great Lakes as well as what set these two apart, and why are they still so unique to this day. We can't wait for you to tune in. Merry early Christmas!

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December 12, 2025 47 mins

Andrew and Michelle are talking all things dams and hydraulics as they cover the Great Lakes adjacent story of the South Fork Dam. Learn about all of the mishaps and negligence that led to the tragic destruction of Johnstown in what would go down in history as the Johnstown Flood. So whether you're thirsting for more knowledge or just looking to get your feet wet, we have what you need on tap. And heads up, there may be some waterw...

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December 5, 2025 69 mins

Its podcast release day and Andrew and Michelle are covering the SS Daniel J. Morrell. This shipwreck between two shipwrecks is a tale full of wild happenings, tragic endings, and the bravery of a survivor willing to finally tell his story. Tune in to hear about one of the most unique shipwrecks we've covered yet. Anchors away!

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November 30, 2025 105 mins

Join Andrew and Michelle for the conclusion of the SS Edmund Fitzgerald today as they discuss potential causes for the ship to sink. Was it purely accidental? Was it the storm? Was it due to a bigger conspiracy that includes the parent company as well as a missing mayday call? Tune in to find out as we wrap up the one, the only, the Edmund Fitzgerald.

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November 21, 2025 89 mins

It's part two of the iconic Edmund Fitzgerald. Join Andrew and Michelle as they talk about the hours leading up to the wreck of the Fitz. What happened, who said what, and who went out to look for the ship who suddenly disappeared from everyone's radar? Find out those answers and more by tuning in today.

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November 14, 2025 63 mins

Join Andrew and Michelle today as they talk about a little known ship that sank in Lake Superior one stormy night 50 years from November 10, 2025. It's not like she’s one of the most iconic shipwrecks in the Great Lakes and even has some global reaches. That’s right, folks, you know the name, you know the song, and today we are talking about the one, the only, THE SS Edmund Fitzgerald. Tune in to learn about this iconic ship and wh...

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November 7, 2025 57 mins

Welcome back to another long awaited episode that we've hinted about enough that it was finally time to cover it. That's right, folks, Andrew and Michelle are taking on the SS Kamloops. Old Whitey himself would be quite proud. Join in on learning about the tragedy that has turned into quite the intrigue since her finding in the 1970s. So get your wetsuits ready, double check that oxygen level, and let's dive in to today's episode!

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Happy Halloween! We hope you enjoy this extra eerie episode about the ghosts, hauntings, paranormal findings, and deaths on Mackinac Island. Are they real? Are some of these made up? We'll leave you to be the final judge of that. Wishing you and yours extra spooks, stay safe, enjoy the candy, and stand up for your fellow human. Happy hauntings!

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October 24, 2025 49 mins

It's still spooky season and Andrew and Michelle are tackling not a shipwreck, but a perturbed and perhaps paranormally present building - the Eloise Asylum. This historic psychiatric hospital had quite the reach and an even bigger impact. Learn all about the wild mental health treatments that defy today's ethics as well as where the place stands today. Take a trip a little inland to Detroit and welcome aboard! Oh, and watch your b...

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