Joyce and Han get real about what it takes to keep going when the math doesn’t add up, but the mission still matters. From moving carts and pandemic pivots to burned-out bodies and family expectations, this episode is a deep dive into the emotional cost of doing it your way.
Han opens up about going broke, and how Kim Jong Grillin brought his life back from the edge. Joyce shares how a failed beverage startup and an underground plant hustle became the prelude to Goodies. Together they talk about what it means to be Asian American, punk, first-gen, and still fighting, not just to survive, but to build something that lasts.
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