February 17, 2025 • 31 mins
Boxing, improv, and risk-taking... how much do hobbies matter in your dating journey? In this episode, we break down the skills that boost your attraction and expose the hobbies that don’t. Plus, guitar vs. surfboard: which one wins? Find out in this sequel to 'Hobbies That Make You A Better Man'
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Not too long ago we talked about interest, hobbies, passions, those type of things,
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but specifically the ones that have a magical positive effect on your dating life.
I am joined once more by the one and only Palest Ginger in Africa named...
Daaaaaaaaaaaaan!
Welcome back Dan!
We yapped so much that we only ticked off three of those passion interest hobbies last time.
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We spoke about cooking.
We spoke about being a handyman.
And we spoke about dancing.
Salsa in particular.
Yeah, and shortly about gaming.
But yeah, that was not really one of the magical skills.
So yeah, today, new day, new skills.
Bring it. What do you got?
Okay, well, I'm very curious on this one.
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This is not one eye master.
I do think it has a nice impact.
You've been on the journey for a couple of years now.
Self-devance, boxing.
Does that stuff make you more attractive?
Short answer, yes. I think definitely.
It definitely did a lot for me.
So for those who don't know, I've been boxing now for about four or five years.
With a lot of sparring too.
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And it's done wonders for me.
I think mostly so.
Well, first of all, the obvious things.
It's great physical activity.
It burns a lot of calories.
So if you're overweight, that shit's good too.
For me, I was not overweight.
It was more so actually costing me some muscles.
Because I stopped going to the gym and just did a lot of boxing.
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Now I found a better balance in that.
But anyway, it's good for you.
I think the reason why it makes you so much more attractive to women is...
There's multiple reasons.
One of them is you have to really be in your masculine energy to do any sorts of fighting.
Especially if you're going to spar.
And that's also why I find it tremendously unattractive when women spar and do that stuff.
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It just like deep down in my core, it feels unnatural for them to be hitting people in the face.
And not flinch when a punch is thrown at them and so on.
But for a guy, that is definitely an attractive trait.
So two more things there.
One is for me, I was always very conflict avoidant.
Still, I'm to a certain degree.
And when you are face to face with the guy that is trying to hit you in the face,
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being conflict avoidant doesn't really do much for you.
So you get better at handling that. You get better at doing stuff despite being afraid.
You get better at sort of channeling that more primitive side of your masculine.
Very attractive.
And then there's the other thing, which is kind of obvious, but I'll point it out anyway.
If you are good at fighting, you are, should a situation arise better at protecting whoever you are with.
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Which is in some cases going to be your partner, your girlfriend or your date.
Or your family, your children.
Your little chow-chow dog.
Yeah.
Do you have situations where it clearly made you more attractive or even got you a date or more than that?
I don't think it necessarily got me a date per se.
A couple things that stood by me, is that how you say it?
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A couple things I clearly remember is when I was still single and dating a lot,
I would show up to the dates quite often with a bit of a black eye or some small blemishes.
Some small signs of damage on my face.
And so many times women would bring that up and then sooner or later they would say that they found it hot.
Yeah.
Right.
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I guess because it is almost like a badge of honor, quote unquote, that you are not shying away from physical altercation.
So that's something that definitely stood out to me.
There have been situations where, for example, you and I, our office in Amsterdam is quite close to a sketchy park
where a lot of women don't even want to walk through that place at night.
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When I walk through there with someone, I definitely feel more at ease.
The odds of running into a random stupid someone that wants to start something and then that person being able to win,
they're just lower now.
You just feel a bit more confident in yourself because you know that should hit the fan,
there's a fair chance that you're going to be all right anyway.
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I think it has honestly, it has to be knowing how to fight or how to defend yourself has to be top three best interests, hobbies, passions.
Interesting.
New skill or interest hobby, however you call it, improv theater.
It pushes your boundaries.
It helps you get creative.
It throws you in all kinds of different situations.
What do you think about it?
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First thought, improv theater has to be top three for pretty much all men on the planet as well.
Unless if you feel like you're already the verbal king and you always know what to say and you're super creative
and you can link one topic to a completely different topic and so on.
For me, I think it must have been one of the things that gave me most is just the verbal part of game and being creative.
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I think it's also one of the reasons why I could shoot 20 ridiculously effective personalized openers on dating apps in five minutes.
And then the guys on the couch, they're like, what the fuck? How did you do it?
It's something that sort of came natural to me.
And then of course I trained it to get better and better and better and better over time.
But most men completely miss this skill and it frustrates them.
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And obviously if something frustrates you, it doesn't make you more attractive.
It does the opposite.
So what we have noticed is that the guys under our coaching who do pick up improv, they notably get better at game in general.
And they usually enjoy it a lot too.
Yeah, I agree.
It's related to a lot of things that make you attractive.
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The creativity, having balls, throwing yourself in a situation and making the best out of it.
And there's some principles that are highly applicable to good conversation.
One of the lessons I learned from improv theater is that in order to build an improvisation piece, you always have to have the mindset of yes and.
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So for example, you will start something and you tell me, yo, dude, there's a spaceship landing over here.
And if I'm going to be like, no, that's not a spaceship.
I'm saying no to it and you don't build anything.
It becomes there's no reality.
It sucks.
But if I'm going to be reacting to it as, oh yeah, that's a spaceship.
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I'm also not adding anything.
I'm just confirming it.
So you always have to think yes and.
So if you're say, oh, there's a spaceship coming over here, I might say, oh, damn, those aliens look pretty hungry.
Right.
I'm adding a layer and then you start to build on it.
This is not a very typical scenario, by the way, in improv theater.
They're usually way more subtle.
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But these mindsets really apply to good conversation.
I often see it in the screenshots of a student where he's just confirming what she says, like, haha, that's right.
And then there's nothing being built.
Yeah, guys do that all the time where they sort of just rehash what the girl said.
And you're rehashing.
It's like you eating up what she says, you chew on it a bit and you spit it out again.
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And she has nothing new to work with and you've bought her to death.
Yeah.
So this yes and theory is definitely great.
Also one of the rules that we teach guys with texting is if you can bounce off the text that the other person sent you, which is pretty much the exact same principle.
Yeah.
Another principle I learned from improv comedy or improv theater is usually it's very subtle.
And it's a lot more about the body language and the actual funny things are usually not that much in the extremes, but much more into just a little expression or just looking in a funny way to the other person.
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And the same applies to game.
You don't have to overdo anything that much to be funny or to be interesting.
Just raising your eyebrow on the right moments can just be really funny and have a bigger impact than overdoing a lot of things.
Yeah, that reminds me.
I just went to a stand up comedy show in New York the other day and many times what I saw the comedians do is they make a joke.
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And then there is some sort of reaction somewhere in the crowd and they'll just react to that reaction by making a certain facial expression.
And that's all.
And that seemed enough to crack up the crowd more.
Yeah, I love that.
If it's really bouncing off what they say, it's very impressive.
And some of that is even canned because they get similar reactions over time, but it looks so impressive.
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Yeah.
Maybe it was with you.
I'm not sure.
We went to Jim Jeffries and one guy in the audience shouted, do the bit with the panda.
Which is like an older bit of him.
Do the bit with the panda.
And Jim Jeffries was like, what?
Do the bit with the panda.
He's like, mate, I spent a whole year making a new show for you.
You should sounds like you're happier at home with the DVD.
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And yeah, that's just so good when it's just bouncing off the moment.
That's what makes it impressive when they can work with whatever is thrown at them, which honestly is what someone who's good at game has some way to handle whatever hurdle is put in front of him.
That's another lesson from improv.
Just say yes to it.
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Oh, now this is there.
Okay, I'll work with it.
Now this is coming up.
I'll work with it.
Whatever it is you work with and a lot of guys get blown out of just get blown out way quick.
The other night I was filming some infield here in Cape Town.
I went to a busy area where there's hot girls and some clubs and everything.
And I approached two girls.
I tell them, Hey, what's up?
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Do you want to be my friend?
And the first thing they say to me is no.
And they let they left a little bit, but it's still it's not the best reaction.
And many guys just get blown out right there.
But if you apply the improv mindset, I just told them instantly, All right, then I'll just friends on you back.
Doesn't make any sense, but you just keep on working with it.
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It literally doesn't make any sense.
It doesn't matter.
You still like just work with it.
You go with it.
And then I just change topics because don't stay on a dying topic.
And I read them.
I saw like, Hey, you two must be Russian, aren't you?
And I was correct.
And then it just went from there.
And that turned into the threesome that then your future wife was angry about, right?
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Yeah, doesn't she got a little bit annoyed, but you know, she don't as a fourth person and that was all good.
Oh, that's nicely.
See, that's another improv tactic.
Hey, one last thing that's really good about improv before we move to the next topic.
I see so many guys being stuck in what they allow themselves to say and what they don't allow themselves to say.
And so I'm always hammering on filter less, filter less, filter less.
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And when I was talking about this during a coaching call, one of the guys in the group said, Hey, that's a rule that I learned in improv as well.
Pretty much anything you say is good enough.
And they do some sort of warm up around where you, you can't say about anything that isn't good enough.
Like everything works and you have to say everything that comes to mind, no matter what it is.
Love it.
Practicing that is good for a lot of guys because a lot of guys are self-censoring.
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A lot of guys have high expectations and everything should be the sharpest, best text ever.
And it really makes no sense.
I love it.
We do a similar exercise on our life training.
Sometimes when you open with just the dumbest nonsensical stuff, you literally open her with Babidi Boop or my dog eats peanut butter or something just, just dumb and nonsensical.
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And then sometimes those things get better reactions than the stuff they usually open with or the generic compliments.
And then they come back with quite a realization.
I open her with my dog eats peanut butter and she likes it.
Yeah.
How is it better than my patented 1995 mystery method opener about the guy fighting outside the club?
Yeah.
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Okay.
What's next?
Oh, I have one.
How about, and this is a little bit more broad because it can be many things, but risky.
Risky hobbies or an appetite for doing dangerous things.
Great.
I think it has to be great for guys looking for more fun, casual stuff, hookups, but probably also good for the long term.
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I'm instantly thinking of Alex Honnold is his name, right?
This solo climber.
Have you seen that Netflix movie about him?
Right.
He does the longest free climb in the world.
So without any safety and if you fall, obviously you're dead and it goes on for hours and hours and hours.
And there is a bit in that movie where they talk about his wife and how does she feel about all that?
And she just had to accept that that's what he's going to do and that he's always going to do it.
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And if she doesn't accept it, then he's not the guy for him.
Pretty, pretty tough situation to be in for the wife because a lot of those free solo guys just end up dying.
But I wonder if it's got to be more for certain women, but there has to be an element of attraction where my guy is this guy.
My guy is this not afraid to die dude that's always going to do what he loves most.
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Yeah, base jumping, cliff diving. You like this?
Yeah. And also I have noticed that cliff.
So for the guys who are listening and don't know, it's not like I'm some crazy Olympic cliff diver.
I just like to jump off of rocks into the water and I can't do the triple flip screw, whatever, but I can do some tricks.
And it's quite obvious to notice that when you do these type of things that girls are kind of impressed by them and they find it cool.
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Part of it must be the athletic feet, I guess, and part of it must be again that fearlessness that the opposite of a risk averse behavior risk seeking behavior, I guess.
Yeah. As long as it's not too much. Yeah, there's definitely something to this.
Also, I know a guy who's like top of the world.
What do you call it jumping out of airplanes?
Skydiving.
Skydiving. And he does all sorts of those crazy, crazy things.
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And it's not just him doing that sport, but him embracing that general lifestyle of adrenaline seeking things.
And that guy is really popular with women too.
Now, I can, I cannot prove that it's because of this risk seeking behavior, but I'm pretty sure that's part of the puzzle.
Absolutely. I think most of these activities are pretty good for the for the gram.
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Oh, yeah, 100% of them look good. Right. I'm thinking of, you know, have a client who has a great paragliding photo.
I've multiple clients have a good skydiving photo surf photos are a bit harder to get because there's some distance, but it's also doable.
Yeah. Well, let's be real.
Surf photos are a special thing.
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It's almost like a category by themselves because 90% of clients that we see both in your company and the English company is that the surf photos we see are they just suck.
Is this guy is that want to be surfers, but they're not.
And they're wearing this stupid little fluorescent lycra little thing so that the coach recognize you and you're on your big soft top in the worst posture ever on your little foamy wave.
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Yeah, and that is more like, hey, look, I really want to be this guy.
I want to show you that it's surfing thing, but you didn't actually do it. Yeah.
You're just learning it. Whereas if you're an actual surfer and you have some big green wave and you're in the midst of some trick or some turn, obviously that's attractive.
I mean, I still think the surfer the surfer guy is a stereotype of an attractive guy.
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For multiple reasons, usually it's the tan and athletic physique, maybe the longer stereotypically blonde hair, but it's also the chill lifestyle.
He's supposed to be relaxed. He's supposed to be free from the system.
He also free from the system and this whole it is what it is.
But it's also him doing a very impressive and beautiful to watch skill.
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Yeah. So two clients of mine, they did an experiment.
They were both walking the beach. One had a board, another had a guitar on him and they asked multiple girls, hey, just based on our items, who do you think is more attractive?
And of course, to keep the experiment pure, they switched the two items around and they unanimously chose one object.
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I didn't tell you the story before, so I'm very curious which would you pick?
I think it kind of depends as well. Where was this?
I forgot. I think just in the Netherlands.
Because I would say if it's in the Netherlands, the surfer guy is cooler.
But then again, is he carrying along this clumsy as beginner board or one of those very short, what do you call them again?
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The ones that you can dug dive under waves with the ones that pros use that typical very cool looking board that anyone who's not completely oblivious to how surfing works
knows that this guy has to be good because if you have that type of board and you're walking in the Netherlands where surfing is this exotic cool California thing,
then I would say that wins because every park has a dude with a guitar.
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But then if it's in some place where surfing is very common, then it might be different.
Although I guess a guitar is never quite uncommon at the beach because there's always one guy with his guitar.
I would say so too.
Damn, I don't want to be wrong. Okay, I'm going to say the surfer wins though.
The guitar guy won?
Yeah, always.
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Fucking wonderful boy.
100%.
He won all the time and it did switch the objects around.
So it was pretty unanimously too.
Man, Dutch girls prefer the guitar guy over the surfer guy.
Absolutely.
Wait, I'm going to dispute his results.
Where those guys fit?
Oh, that's an interesting one.
That's an interesting one.
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Dude, this story is more than 10 years old, so I forgot.
Okay, that's a good question.
Because I think a fat guy with a surfboard is not really cool, whereas it's kind of cool,
but a fat guy with a guitar would work way better.
And a fat guy being good at music and expressing himself that way, that is pretty hot.
And we've seen, I mean, look at plenty of artists that are out of shape, but still get tons of it.
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And what about Ed Sheeran, the pale little ginger boy?
I bet you he can bang a lot of models.
It's not like he's a sex icon, but it's the self expression and then of course the beautiful music.
But Ed Sheeran with a surfboard is probably not very hot, whereas now let's take a typically fit guy,
give him a surfboard.
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I think it's suddenly way hotter, whereas the fit guy with a guitar would still be hot though.
Good points.
That's a great point.
I mean, we have to replicate this experiment in many shapes and forms with many types of guys,
with many types of bodies.
How about you and I replicated here in South Africa?
I think that's a great idea.
I cannot imagine girls liking me more with a guitar than a surfboard.
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If I'm wearing the wetsuits from the pens down only and for the list, I'm in the midst of a fitness journey and I'm quite in shape now.
I think it has to really, really alter the results.
Yeah, I'm curious now too.
Well, but it makes sense and that will be the next skill, obviously, a guitar.
It makes sense to me because with a surfboard, what's in it for her?
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If there's some logic behind these skills, and I do think there's some logic in attraction, nice, he can surf.
Okay, good.
He might have a nice body.
He'll show me some tricks he did today on his phone, but who gives a shit?
But if he plays guitar, oh, he can write me a song.
Oh, he can be taking the lead at night when there's a campfire and everybody's crowded around it.
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He can serenade me.
Oh, he can open his heart a little bit more.
There's some benefits to it that are a bit more direct in his benefits versus indirect.
Yeah, I look at it a bit differently though.
So the biggest benefits of the guitar versus that surfboard, if you're looking at potential partners and relationships,
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I think self-expression should be a big one for women.
I'm not sure how often the guy is going to write the girl's songs or serenade.
But it's actually just the fact that he is, let's say at least he's at a decent level where you'd rather hear him perform than not hear him perform at home.
That's a benefit, I guess.
So for example, my roommate plays the piano and at random times during the day he'll be playing the piano.
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That's really nice because he knows how to play it well and it just makes the atmosphere better.
So when my girlfriend comes over or random girls are at our house, there's almost never not a little compliment or enthusiasm when he starts playing the piano.
So that is one element to it and then I think the self-expression is a big element.
And then I think one part of it must be, but again, it depends so much on the guy.
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I feel like a man with a guitar, especially an acoustic guitar, is quickly linked to that.
Sort of still figuring it out, kind of tortured, maybe melancholic guy, a little bit in his feelings type of shit, which a lot of girls will be into.
Yeah, artsy, open, definitely sexy.
A friend of mine, he plays guitar professionally, so he plays in many bands, he gives lessons.
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It's his full-time life playing the guitar and he said he really discovered the power of it when one day he was playing in the afternoon somewhere and in the night he ended up at a bar, but he still had his guitar on him.
He had no time to go home.
So he's walking around the bar with the guitar on his back and he's discovering, I'm getting so many looks of girls left and right.
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He's even getting opens here and there and he said that was one of the easiest nights ever to get girls.
Yeah, that comes to no surprise.
I think we once did a video on the YouTube channel where we made a nice guy profile and a bad boy profile.
You were there, right?
Yeah.
You did it in Gent in Belgium.
And for one of the bad boy photos, we would sit in a bar with the guitar as if I was fine-tuning the snares or what do you call those things?
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Snares, yeah.
Yeah, whatever.
But that was part of our strings.
The strings, yeah, thank you.
That was part of our bad boy look.
A story that instantly comes to mind is a friend of mine, he's out of the game for a long time now, but he used to be big time addicted to anything seduction.
And he would, he exploited some tinderbug that pretty much had it resulted in a different girl being at his place most nights of the week.
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He went on like a six month bender where he would sleep with way more women than ever healthy.
But part of his tactic was he exploited a hinge bug that doesn't exist anymore.
Unfortunately, of course, otherwise I would share it with you guys.
And then when the women came to his house, his guitar would always be placed very strategically inside.
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Nine times out of ten, someone makes a remark about it.
He would pick it up, play a little something.
And then eventually that would turn into him playing a song for the girl on his little balcony that he had.
And he always played the same song where he would customize a few words.
Now, one of those girls actually became his long term girlfriend.
They're in a very nice relationship now.
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And I asked her about it and she's like, well, of course I knew that he wasn't only doing this for me, but you know, it was still kind of nice.
Nice. I love it.
I think the guitar ranks. No, I don't think I know that just ranks highest.
It's other instruments can be hard to.
But one thing is they're just less portable.
You're not going to bring your drum kit and there's less sensitivity and emotional openness to it.
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Guys, well, means if you love the drums, that's dope too.
If you're in a band and you're performing, ming and you're rocking it.
I think that's so attractive.
Can work with your thinner profile, but guitar just takes the number one place.
So I wouldn't do it to get girls.
But if you play the guitar and you're into dating, exploit the fuck out of it.
Put it on your tinder, put it on your Instagram.
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Tell her you have a guitar placed strategically at the entrance of your place.
Carry it on your back where ever you go 24 seven.
Yep. Indeed. Have a tattoo on your forehead saying I played guitar by the way.
Yeah, or don't get tattoo, but just play it 24 seven in the supermarket and hang a little, a little bucket around your neck for people to put coins.
And hey, so jokes aside, also anything we discussed, right?
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Yeah, some hobbies are more attractive than others, but there is nothing less attractive than you really trying hard to show that you do something or master something.
Two girls and the same goes with, oh my God, how many guitar photos I've seen of clients where the setting sucks.
It's bad, white, light inside their house in a very uncozy house.
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Maybe their mom's house and then they're playing the guitar, but they probably weren't even really playing it.
It's just for the photo. Get that off your profile immediately.
What I tell those guys is you either like play with your band wherever you guys play, even if it's in a garage, but then record the session and take the right screen show that it will be 100 times better.
Or if you can, I know that there is open mic nights where you can bring your guitar and that one guy that I talked about that had his guitar strategically placed within the room for every day.
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He took home. He went to one of those open mic things, played the guitar there and sang, had someone film it in the audience and that screenshot we took of that performed magically on his profile.
And that was even before you could do videos. Right now he could do a short audio included because he sings amazingly well too.
But that like that's how you do it. Don't go in your uncozy house with your guitar, try harding with your crooked posture, hunching over.
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Do it properly. Indeed. They're fake playing in the park and it just looks way too polished.
How many guys do fake playing on the bench in the park in summer?
And they're sitting, they're not sitting on the bench. They're sitting on the back support.
Oh yeah, yeah. Always that.
Yeah, it's so common. And then the shoot looks too professional and it's too obviously.
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It looks mega professional because it is a professional shoot too.
Yes, it's better to if you have that photo, it's fine. Just shoot it with a fucking iPhone or analog, but not this professional one.
Train your friends or if you can't then get lucky that someone's taken a photo where you look half decent while you're playing somewhere at a gathering or whatever.
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But don't do the fucking photo shoot. It's the same with guy. Like it's when we're recording this. It's 2025 guys are still obsessed with the dog photo.
The dog photo is the most powerful dinner photo and everyone that comes into our programs, they're obsessed with this fucking dog photo.
And yes, in my articles and videos, I was like, Hey, if you don't have a dog, borrow one from someone on the street.
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First of all, that advice stems from years ago. It's really not so important to have a dog photo or a guitar photo, but not only is it not so important.
If you're going to force it, it destroys your profile. You're just giga try hard.
Yeah, especially if I've seen so many dog and cat photos too, by the way, where it's way obvious that the dog or cat is either bored or trying to get away or just not comfortable at all.
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And it just shows all the wrong things. It shows I'm doesn't communicate. I'm a friend of animals. It communicates. Animals are not comfortable around me.
And probably women are neater.
Yes, I wish to do it. But yeah, that's just coming from a mindset of just get it checked off without any context whatsoever.
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What would be a hobby where guys think it's really good for getting girls, but it actually isn't? Is there any one of those?
While you think of it, I'll name some that I some of some hobbies that I think are good, but nothing too special.
But in in Europe, I would say soccer is a big one. I guess it's kind of the equivalent of American football in the States.
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Baseball is probably a little bit more gay. But again, if so, with any hobby or sport, if you're good at it, first of all, if you enjoy it, great.
Who cares whether or not it gets girls. But also if you enjoy it, it will get you more girls.
I think if you we know some guys that play baseball at a pretty high level, one of our coaches plays at like the highest level in the Netherlands.
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I don't see that ever harming him with girls, of course, but I think baseball in itself is not super cool.
When I watch those games, I'm like, no, these guys are hardly moving.
But yeah, those things can, of course, rock if you're on in an American college and you're one of the main guys.
But my guess is still the basketball and the American football guys, they're going to get away with most of the girls there.
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In Europe with soccer football is the British call it.
If you if you play on a I mean, I know one pretty famous football player and he does make a million a month.
Yeah, when you're on that level, you'll pick up girls left and right.
But the funny thing is, I mean, I'm not going to tell his name, obviously, but he would prefer to sleep with escorts, actually.
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Because they would leave and they would be discreet and he wouldn't risk any consent lawsuit.
Yes, so he would be more so because he's a bit more famous.
Yeah, he's a bit famous and he just made a lot and he just didn't want any headaches.
And yeah, he preferred the escorts and according to him, they would kind of enjoy it most of the time as well.
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So it felt pretty real to him and I might say, oh my God, it's a famous sports guy.
Yeah, yeah, maybe. I mean, it's my guess is it's still one of the nicest clients to have.
But yeah, I find that interesting because I was thinking, man, I would really go for all these girls.
Well, Dan, I know you would love to talk about more about escorts and your own personal experience with escorts and that being your biggest passion.
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But we were actually talking about sports, hobbies and interests.
One last one to finish it off, one that completely sucks for getting women knowing a lot about cars.
Cars is your passion, your hobby. You just know every brand of fucking Mercedes and Volvo and BMW.
There are these car girls, though. I know. I know actually know some car some girls that are really into cars.
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So for them, it would be but of course, there's a thing with everything in general.
Of course, it's not going to be as helpful as playing the guitar or being a great salsa dancer or world champion snowboarding.
Look, I would go as far as as long as you're the top one percent in any niche or hobby, you're going to get laid massively.
If you're the top one percent League of Legends player, yeah, you go to the, you know, these these World Cyber Games in Korea or whatever,
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you're probably going to get a few groupies here and there. If you are top one percent or point,
you're probably going to be a little bit more of a car guy and you know, or you dominate the board game niche and you're the fucking man on these board game conventions.
Yeah, yeah, it's going to be great. What about the hobby horsing? Oh, for sure, you're going to get laid.
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Is there a single hot girl into hobby horsing? I think a few, yeah.
Can you explain what hobby horsing is to the viewer who doesn't know?
It's fake. Yeah, this childish toy that's just a stick with a horse on top of it and you perform tricks, quote unquote, but it's basically a very lame former free running made to look extra retarded by having a toy on you.
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Yeah. Yeah, this is where the podcast ends, you know, and you can get laid by hobby horsing as long as you're the top one percent.
Yeah, according to Dan, but I think you have a better chance throwing darts. Yeah. Goodbye, my beautiful listener. Goodbye.
Not too long ago we talked about interest, hobbies, passions, those type of things,
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but specifically the ones that have a magical positive effect on your dating life.
I am joined once more by the one and only Palest Ginger in Africa named...
Daaaaaaaaaaaaan!
Welcome back Dan!
We yapped so much that we only ticked off three of those passion interest hobbies last time.
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We spoke about cooking.
We spoke about being a handyman.
And we spoke about dancing.
Salsa in particular.
Yeah, and shortly about gaming.
But yeah, that was not really one of the magical skills.
So yeah, today, new day, new skills.
Bring it. What do you got?
Okay, well, I'm very curious on this one.
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This is not one eye master.
I do think it has a nice impact.
You've been on the journey for a couple of years now.
Self-devance, boxing.
Does that stuff make you more attractive?
Short answer, yes. I think definitely.
It definitely did a lot for me.
So for those who don't know, I've been boxing now for about four or five years.
With a lot of sparring too.
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And it's done wonders for me.
I think mostly so.
Well, first of all, the obvious things.
It's great physical activity.
It burns a lot of calories.
So if you're overweight, that shit's good too.
For me, I was not overweight.
It was more so actually costing me some muscles.
Because I stopped going to the gym and just did a lot of boxing.
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Now I found a better balance in that.
But anyway, it's good for you.
I think the reason why it makes you so much more attractive to women is...
There's multiple reasons.
One of them is you have to really be in your masculine energy to do any sorts of fighting.
Especially if you're going to spar.
And that's also why I find it tremendously unattractive when women spar and do that stuff.
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It just like deep down in my core, it feels unnatural for them to be hitting people in the face.
And not flinch when a punch is thrown at them and so on.
But for a guy, that is definitely an attractive trait.
So two more things there.
One is for me, I was always very conflict avoidant.
Still, I'm to a certain degree.
And when you are face to face with the guy that is trying to hit you in the face,
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being conflict avoidant doesn't really do much for you.
So you get better at handling that. You get better at doing stuff despite being afraid.
You get better at sort of channeling that more primitive side of your masculine.
Very attractive.
And then there's the other thing, which is kind of obvious, but I'll point it out anyway.
If you are good at fighting, you are, should a situation arise better at protecting whoever you are with.
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Which is in some cases going to be your partner, your girlfriend or your date.
Or your family, your children.
Your little chow-chow dog.
Yeah.
Do you have situations where it clearly made you more attractive or even got you a date or more than that?
I don't think it necessarily got me a date per se.
A couple things that stood by me, is that how you say it?
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A couple things I clearly remember is when I was still single and dating a lot,
I would show up to the dates quite often with a bit of a black eye or some small blemishes.
Some small signs of damage on my face.
And so many times women would bring that up and then sooner or later they would say that they found it hot.
Yeah.
Right.
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I guess because it is almost like a badge of honor, quote unquote, that you are not shying away from physical altercation.
So that's something that definitely stood out to me.
There have been situations where, for example, you and I, our office in Amsterdam is quite close to a sketchy park
where a lot of women don't even want to walk through that place at night.
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When I walk through there with someone, I definitely feel more at ease.
The odds of running into a random stupid someone that wants to start something and then that person being able to win,
they're just lower now.
You just feel a bit more confident in yourself because you know that should hit the fan,
there's a fair chance that you're going to be all right anyway.
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I think it has honestly, it has to be knowing how to fight or how to defend yourself has to be top three best interests, hobbies, passions.
Interesting.
New skill or interest hobby, however you call it, improv theater.
It pushes your boundaries.
It helps you get creative.
It throws you in all kinds of different situations.
What do you think about it?
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First thought, improv theater has to be top three for pretty much all men on the planet as well.
Unless if you feel like you're already the verbal king and you always know what to say and you're super creative
and you can link one topic to a completely different topic and so on.
For me, I think it must have been one of the things that gave me most is just the verbal part of game and being creative.
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I think it's also one of the reasons why I could shoot 20 ridiculously effective personalized openers on dating apps in five minutes.
And then the guys on the couch, they're like, what the fuck? How did you do it?
It's something that sort of came natural to me.
And then of course I trained it to get better and better and better and better over time.
But most men completely miss this skill and it frustrates them.
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And obviously if something frustrates you, it doesn't make you more attractive.
It does the opposite.
So what we have noticed is that the guys under our coaching who do pick up improv, they notably get better at game in general.
And they usually enjoy it a lot too.
Yeah, I agree.
It's related to a lot of things that make you attractive.
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The creativity, having balls, throwing yourself in a situation and making the best out of it.
And there's some principles that are highly applicable to good conversation.
One of the lessons I learned from improv theater is that in order to build an improvisation piece, you always have to have the mindset of yes and.
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So for example, you will start something and you tell me, yo, dude, there's a spaceship landing over here.
And if I'm going to be like, no, that's not a spaceship.
I'm saying no to it and you don't build anything.
It becomes there's no reality.
It sucks.
But if I'm going to be reacting to it as, oh yeah, that's a spaceship.
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I'm also not adding anything.
I'm just confirming it.
So you always have to think yes and.
So if you're say, oh, there's a spaceship coming over here, I might say, oh, damn, those aliens look pretty hungry.
Right.
I'm adding a layer and then you start to build on it.
This is not a very typical scenario, by the way, in improv theater.
They're usually way more subtle.
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But these mindsets really apply to good conversation.
I often see it in the screenshots of a student where he's just confirming what she says, like, haha, that's right.
And then there's nothing being built.
Yeah, guys do that all the time where they sort of just rehash what the girl said.
And you're rehashing.
It's like you eating up what she says, you chew on it a bit and you spit it out again.
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And she has nothing new to work with and you've bought her to death.
Yeah.
So this yes and theory is definitely great.
Also one of the rules that we teach guys with texting is if you can bounce off the text that the other person sent you, which is pretty much the exact same principle.
Yeah.
Another principle I learned from improv comedy or improv theater is usually it's very subtle.
And it's a lot more about the body language and the actual funny things are usually not that much in the extremes, but much more into just a little expression or just looking in a funny way to the other person.
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And the same applies to game.
You don't have to overdo anything that much to be funny or to be interesting.
Just raising your eyebrow on the right moments can just be really funny and have a bigger impact than overdoing a lot of things.
Yeah, that reminds me.
I just went to a stand up comedy show in New York the other day and many times what I saw the comedians do is they make a joke.
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And then there is some sort of reaction somewhere in the crowd and they'll just react to that reaction by making a certain facial expression.
And that's all.
And that seemed enough to crack up the crowd more.
Yeah, I love that.
If it's really bouncing off what they say, it's very impressive.
And some of that is even canned because they get similar reactions over time, but it looks so impressive.
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Yeah.
Maybe it was with you.
I'm not sure.
We went to Jim Jeffries and one guy in the audience shouted, do the bit with the panda.
Which is like an older bit of him.
Do the bit with the panda.
And Jim Jeffries was like, what?
Do the bit with the panda.
He's like, mate, I spent a whole year making a new show for you.
You should sounds like you're happier at home with the DVD.
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And yeah, that's just so good when it's just bouncing off the moment.
That's what makes it impressive when they can work with whatever is thrown at them, which honestly is what someone who's good at game has some way to handle whatever hurdle is put in front of him.
That's another lesson from improv.
Just say yes to it.
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Oh, now this is there.
Okay, I'll work with it.
Now this is coming up.
I'll work with it.
Whatever it is you work with and a lot of guys get blown out of just get blown out way quick.
The other night I was filming some infield here in Cape Town.
I went to a busy area where there's hot girls and some clubs and everything.
And I approached two girls.
I tell them, Hey, what's up?
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Do you want to be my friend?
And the first thing they say to me is no.
And they let they left a little bit, but it's still it's not the best reaction.
And many guys just get blown out right there.
But if you apply the improv mindset, I just told them instantly, All right, then I'll just friends on you back.
Doesn't make any sense, but you just keep on working with it.
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It literally doesn't make any sense.
It doesn't matter.
You still like just work with it.
You go with it.
And then I just change topics because don't stay on a dying topic.
And I read them.
I saw like, Hey, you two must be Russian, aren't you?
And I was correct.
And then it just went from there.
And that turned into the threesome that then your future wife was angry about, right?
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Yeah, doesn't she got a little bit annoyed, but you know, she don't as a fourth person and that was all good.
Oh, that's nicely.
See, that's another improv tactic.
Hey, one last thing that's really good about improv before we move to the next topic.
I see so many guys being stuck in what they allow themselves to say and what they don't allow themselves to say.
And so I'm always hammering on filter less, filter less, filter less.
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And when I was talking about this during a coaching call, one of the guys in the group said, Hey, that's a rule that I learned in improv as well.
Pretty much anything you say is good enough.
And they do some sort of warm up around where you, you can't say about anything that isn't good enough.
Like everything works and you have to say everything that comes to mind, no matter what it is.
Love it.
Practicing that is good for a lot of guys because a lot of guys are self-censoring.
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A lot of guys have high expectations and everything should be the sharpest, best text ever.
And it really makes no sense.
I love it.
We do a similar exercise on our life training.
Sometimes when you open with just the dumbest nonsensical stuff, you literally open her with Babidi Boop or my dog eats peanut butter or something just, just dumb and nonsensical.
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And then sometimes those things get better reactions than the stuff they usually open with or the generic compliments.
And then they come back with quite a realization.
I open her with my dog eats peanut butter and she likes it.
Yeah.
How is it better than my patented 1995 mystery method opener about the guy fighting outside the club?
Yeah.
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Okay.
What's next?
Oh, I have one.
How about, and this is a little bit more broad because it can be many things, but risky.
Risky hobbies or an appetite for doing dangerous things.
Great.
I think it has to be great for guys looking for more fun, casual stuff, hookups, but probably also good for the long term.
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I'm instantly thinking of Alex Honnold is his name, right?
This solo climber.
Have you seen that Netflix movie about him?
Right.
He does the longest free climb in the world.
So without any safety and if you fall, obviously you're dead and it goes on for hours and hours and hours.
And there is a bit in that movie where they talk about his wife and how does she feel about all that?
And she just had to accept that that's what he's going to do and that he's always going to do it.
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And if she doesn't accept it, then he's not the guy for him.
Pretty, pretty tough situation to be in for the wife because a lot of those free solo guys just end up dying.
But I wonder if it's got to be more for certain women, but there has to be an element of attraction where my guy is this guy.
My guy is this not afraid to die dude that's always going to do what he loves most.
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Yeah, base jumping, cliff diving. You like this?
Yeah. And also I have noticed that cliff.
So for the guys who are listening and don't know, it's not like I'm some crazy Olympic cliff diver.
I just like to jump off of rocks into the water and I can't do the triple flip screw, whatever, but I can do some tricks.
And it's quite obvious to notice that when you do these type of things that girls are kind of impressed by them and they find it cool.
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Part of it must be the athletic feet, I guess, and part of it must be again that fearlessness that the opposite of a risk averse behavior risk seeking behavior, I guess.
Yeah. As long as it's not too much. Yeah, there's definitely something to this.
Also, I know a guy who's like top of the world.
What do you call it jumping out of airplanes?
Skydiving.
Skydiving. And he does all sorts of those crazy, crazy things.
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And it's not just him doing that sport, but him embracing that general lifestyle of adrenaline seeking things.
And that guy is really popular with women too.
Now, I can, I cannot prove that it's because of this risk seeking behavior, but I'm pretty sure that's part of the puzzle.
Absolutely. I think most of these activities are pretty good for the for the gram.
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Oh, yeah, 100% of them look good. Right. I'm thinking of, you know, have a client who has a great paragliding photo.
I've multiple clients have a good skydiving photo surf photos are a bit harder to get because there's some distance, but it's also doable.
Yeah. Well, let's be real.
Surf photos are a special thing.
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It's almost like a category by themselves because 90% of clients that we see both in your company and the English company is that the surf photos we see are they just suck.
Is this guy is that want to be surfers, but they're not.
And they're wearing this stupid little fluorescent lycra little thing so that the coach recognize you and you're on your big soft top in the worst posture ever on your little foamy wave.
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Yeah, and that is more like, hey, look, I really want to be this guy.
I want to show you that it's surfing thing, but you didn't actually do it. Yeah.
You're just learning it. Whereas if you're an actual surfer and you have some big green wave and you're in the midst of some trick or some turn, obviously that's attractive.
I mean, I still think the surfer the surfer guy is a stereotype of an attractive guy.
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For multiple reasons, usually it's the tan and athletic physique, maybe the longer stereotypically blonde hair, but it's also the chill lifestyle.
He's supposed to be relaxed. He's supposed to be free from the system.
He also free from the system and this whole it is what it is.
But it's also him doing a very impressive and beautiful to watch skill.
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Yeah. So two clients of mine, they did an experiment.
They were both walking the beach. One had a board, another had a guitar on him and they asked multiple girls, hey, just based on our items, who do you think is more attractive?
And of course, to keep the experiment pure, they switched the two items around and they unanimously chose one object.
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I didn't tell you the story before, so I'm very curious which would you pick?
I think it kind of depends as well. Where was this?
I forgot. I think just in the Netherlands.
Because I would say if it's in the Netherlands, the surfer guy is cooler.
But then again, is he carrying along this clumsy as beginner board or one of those very short, what do you call them again?
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The ones that you can dug dive under waves with the ones that pros use that typical very cool looking board that anyone who's not completely oblivious to how surfing works
knows that this guy has to be good because if you have that type of board and you're walking in the Netherlands where surfing is this exotic cool California thing,
then I would say that wins because every park has a dude with a guitar.
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But then if it's in some place where surfing is very common, then it might be different.
Although I guess a guitar is never quite uncommon at the beach because there's always one guy with his guitar.
I would say so too.
Damn, I don't want to be wrong. Okay, I'm going to say the surfer wins though.
The guitar guy won?
Yeah, always.
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Fucking wonderful boy.
100%.
He won all the time and it did switch the objects around.
So it was pretty unanimously too.
Man, Dutch girls prefer the guitar guy over the surfer guy.
Absolutely.
Wait, I'm going to dispute his results.
Where those guys fit?
Oh, that's an interesting one.
That's an interesting one.
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Dude, this story is more than 10 years old, so I forgot.
Okay, that's a good question.
Because I think a fat guy with a surfboard is not really cool, whereas it's kind of cool,
but a fat guy with a guitar would work way better.
And a fat guy being good at music and expressing himself that way, that is pretty hot.
And we've seen, I mean, look at plenty of artists that are out of shape, but still get tons of it.
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And what about Ed Sheeran, the pale little ginger boy?
I bet you he can bang a lot of models.
It's not like he's a sex icon, but it's the self expression and then of course the beautiful music.
But Ed Sheeran with a surfboard is probably not very hot, whereas now let's take a typically fit guy,
give him a surfboard.
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I think it's suddenly way hotter, whereas the fit guy with a guitar would still be hot though.
Good points.
That's a great point.
I mean, we have to replicate this experiment in many shapes and forms with many types of guys,
with many types of bodies.
How about you and I replicated here in South Africa?
I think that's a great idea.
I cannot imagine girls liking me more with a guitar than a surfboard.
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If I'm wearing the wetsuits from the pens down only and for the list, I'm in the midst of a fitness journey and I'm quite in shape now.
I think it has to really, really alter the results.
Yeah, I'm curious now too.
Well, but it makes sense and that will be the next skill, obviously, a guitar.
It makes sense to me because with a surfboard, what's in it for her?
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If there's some logic behind these skills, and I do think there's some logic in attraction, nice, he can surf.
Okay, good.
He might have a nice body.
He'll show me some tricks he did today on his phone, but who gives a shit?
But if he plays guitar, oh, he can write me a song.
Oh, he can be taking the lead at night when there's a campfire and everybody's crowded around it.
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He can serenade me.
Oh, he can open his heart a little bit more.
There's some benefits to it that are a bit more direct in his benefits versus indirect.
Yeah, I look at it a bit differently though.
So the biggest benefits of the guitar versus that surfboard, if you're looking at potential partners and relationships,
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I think self-expression should be a big one for women.
I'm not sure how often the guy is going to write the girl's songs or serenade.
But it's actually just the fact that he is, let's say at least he's at a decent level where you'd rather hear him perform than not hear him perform at home.
That's a benefit, I guess.
So for example, my roommate plays the piano and at random times during the day he'll be playing the piano.
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That's really nice because he knows how to play it well and it just makes the atmosphere better.
So when my girlfriend comes over or random girls are at our house, there's almost never not a little compliment or enthusiasm when he starts playing the piano.
So that is one element to it and then I think the self-expression is a big element.
And then I think one part of it must be, but again, it depends so much on the guy.
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I feel like a man with a guitar, especially an acoustic guitar, is quickly linked to that.
Sort of still figuring it out, kind of tortured, maybe melancholic guy, a little bit in his feelings type of shit, which a lot of girls will be into.
Yeah, artsy, open, definitely sexy.
A friend of mine, he plays guitar professionally, so he plays in many bands, he gives lessons.
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It's his full-time life playing the guitar and he said he really discovered the power of it when one day he was playing in the afternoon somewhere and in the night he ended up at a bar, but he still had his guitar on him.
He had no time to go home.
So he's walking around the bar with the guitar on his back and he's discovering, I'm getting so many looks of girls left and right.
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He's even getting opens here and there and he said that was one of the easiest nights ever to get girls.
Yeah, that comes to no surprise.
I think we once did a video on the YouTube channel where we made a nice guy profile and a bad boy profile.
You were there, right?
Yeah.
You did it in Gent in Belgium.
And for one of the bad boy photos, we would sit in a bar with the guitar as if I was fine-tuning the snares or what do you call those things?
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Snares, yeah.
Yeah, whatever.
But that was part of our strings.
The strings, yeah, thank you.
That was part of our bad boy look.
A story that instantly comes to mind is a friend of mine, he's out of the game for a long time now, but he used to be big time addicted to anything seduction.
And he would, he exploited some tinderbug that pretty much had it resulted in a different girl being at his place most nights of the week.
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He went on like a six month bender where he would sleep with way more women than ever healthy.
But part of his tactic was he exploited a hinge bug that doesn't exist anymore.
Unfortunately, of course, otherwise I would share it with you guys.
And then when the women came to his house, his guitar would always be placed very strategically inside.
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Nine times out of ten, someone makes a remark about it.
He would pick it up, play a little something.
And then eventually that would turn into him playing a song for the girl on his little balcony that he had.
And he always played the same song where he would customize a few words.
Now, one of those girls actually became his long term girlfriend.
They're in a very nice relationship now.
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And I asked her about it and she's like, well, of course I knew that he wasn't only doing this for me, but you know, it was still kind of nice.
Nice. I love it.
I think the guitar ranks. No, I don't think I know that just ranks highest.
It's other instruments can be hard to.
But one thing is they're just less portable.
You're not going to bring your drum kit and there's less sensitivity and emotional openness to it.
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Guys, well, means if you love the drums, that's dope too.
If you're in a band and you're performing, ming and you're rocking it.
I think that's so attractive.
Can work with your thinner profile, but guitar just takes the number one place.
So I wouldn't do it to get girls.
But if you play the guitar and you're into dating, exploit the fuck out of it.
Put it on your tinder, put it on your Instagram.
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Tell her you have a guitar placed strategically at the entrance of your place.
Carry it on your back where ever you go 24 seven.
Yep. Indeed. Have a tattoo on your forehead saying I played guitar by the way.
Yeah, or don't get tattoo, but just play it 24 seven in the supermarket and hang a little, a little bucket around your neck for people to put coins.
And hey, so jokes aside, also anything we discussed, right?
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Yeah, some hobbies are more attractive than others, but there is nothing less attractive than you really trying hard to show that you do something or master something.
Two girls and the same goes with, oh my God, how many guitar photos I've seen of clients where the setting sucks.
It's bad, white, light inside their house in a very uncozy house.
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Maybe their mom's house and then they're playing the guitar, but they probably weren't even really playing it.
It's just for the photo. Get that off your profile immediately.
What I tell those guys is you either like play with your band wherever you guys play, even if it's in a garage, but then record the session and take the right screen show that it will be 100 times better.
Or if you can, I know that there is open mic nights where you can bring your guitar and that one guy that I talked about that had his guitar strategically placed within the room for every day.
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He took home. He went to one of those open mic things, played the guitar there and sang, had someone film it in the audience and that screenshot we took of that performed magically on his profile.
And that was even before you could do videos. Right now he could do a short audio included because he sings amazingly well too.
But that like that's how you do it. Don't go in your uncozy house with your guitar, try harding with your crooked posture, hunching over.
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Do it properly. Indeed. They're fake playing in the park and it just looks way too polished.
How many guys do fake playing on the bench in the park in summer?
And they're sitting, they're not sitting on the bench. They're sitting on the back support.
Oh yeah, yeah. Always that.
Yeah, it's so common. And then the shoot looks too professional and it's too obviously.
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It looks mega professional because it is a professional shoot too.
Yes, it's better to if you have that photo, it's fine. Just shoot it with a fucking iPhone or analog, but not this professional one.
Train your friends or if you can't then get lucky that someone's taken a photo where you look half decent while you're playing somewhere at a gathering or whatever.
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But don't do the fucking photo shoot. It's the same with guy. Like it's when we're recording this. It's 2025 guys are still obsessed with the dog photo.
The dog photo is the most powerful dinner photo and everyone that comes into our programs, they're obsessed with this fucking dog photo.
And yes, in my articles and videos, I was like, Hey, if you don't have a dog, borrow one from someone on the street.
(26:58):
First of all, that advice stems from years ago. It's really not so important to have a dog photo or a guitar photo, but not only is it not so important.
If you're going to force it, it destroys your profile. You're just giga try hard.
Yeah, especially if I've seen so many dog and cat photos too, by the way, where it's way obvious that the dog or cat is either bored or trying to get away or just not comfortable at all.
(27:24):
And it just shows all the wrong things. It shows I'm doesn't communicate. I'm a friend of animals. It communicates. Animals are not comfortable around me.
And probably women are neater.
Yes, I wish to do it. But yeah, that's just coming from a mindset of just get it checked off without any context whatsoever.
(27:45):
What would be a hobby where guys think it's really good for getting girls, but it actually isn't? Is there any one of those?
While you think of it, I'll name some that I some of some hobbies that I think are good, but nothing too special.
But in in Europe, I would say soccer is a big one. I guess it's kind of the equivalent of American football in the States.
(28:07):
Baseball is probably a little bit more gay. But again, if so, with any hobby or sport, if you're good at it, first of all, if you enjoy it, great.
Who cares whether or not it gets girls. But also if you enjoy it, it will get you more girls.
I think if you we know some guys that play baseball at a pretty high level, one of our coaches plays at like the highest level in the Netherlands.
(28:28):
I don't see that ever harming him with girls, of course, but I think baseball in itself is not super cool.
When I watch those games, I'm like, no, these guys are hardly moving.
But yeah, those things can, of course, rock if you're on in an American college and you're one of the main guys.
But my guess is still the basketball and the American football guys, they're going to get away with most of the girls there.
(28:53):
In Europe with soccer football is the British call it.
If you if you play on a I mean, I know one pretty famous football player and he does make a million a month.
Yeah, when you're on that level, you'll pick up girls left and right.
But the funny thing is, I mean, I'm not going to tell his name, obviously, but he would prefer to sleep with escorts, actually.
(29:15):
Because they would leave and they would be discreet and he wouldn't risk any consent lawsuit.
Yes, so he would be more so because he's a bit more famous.
Yeah, he's a bit famous and he just made a lot and he just didn't want any headaches.
And yeah, he preferred the escorts and according to him, they would kind of enjoy it most of the time as well.
(29:38):
So it felt pretty real to him and I might say, oh my God, it's a famous sports guy.
Yeah, yeah, maybe. I mean, it's my guess is it's still one of the nicest clients to have.
But yeah, I find that interesting because I was thinking, man, I would really go for all these girls.
Well, Dan, I know you would love to talk about more about escorts and your own personal experience with escorts and that being your biggest passion.
(30:02):
But we were actually talking about sports, hobbies and interests.
One last one to finish it off, one that completely sucks for getting women knowing a lot about cars.
Cars is your passion, your hobby. You just know every brand of fucking Mercedes and Volvo and BMW.
There are these car girls, though. I know. I know actually know some car some girls that are really into cars.
(30:27):
So for them, it would be but of course, there's a thing with everything in general.
Of course, it's not going to be as helpful as playing the guitar or being a great salsa dancer or world champion snowboarding.
Look, I would go as far as as long as you're the top one percent in any niche or hobby, you're going to get laid massively.
If you're the top one percent League of Legends player, yeah, you go to the, you know, these these World Cyber Games in Korea or whatever,
(30:55):
you're probably going to get a few groupies here and there. If you are top one percent or point,
you're probably going to be a little bit more of a car guy and you know, or you dominate the board game niche and you're the fucking man on these board game conventions.
Yeah, yeah, it's going to be great. What about the hobby horsing? Oh, for sure, you're going to get laid.
(31:16):
Is there a single hot girl into hobby horsing? I think a few, yeah.
Can you explain what hobby horsing is to the viewer who doesn't know?
It's fake. Yeah, this childish toy that's just a stick with a horse on top of it and you perform tricks, quote unquote, but it's basically a very lame former free running made to look extra retarded by having a toy on you.
(31:39):
Yeah. Yeah, this is where the podcast ends, you know, and you can get laid by hobby horsing as long as you're the top one percent.
Yeah, according to Dan, but I think you have a better chance throwing darts. Yeah. Goodbye, my beautiful listener. Goodbye.
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